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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we're getting ready for Second Date Update.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
We got Elena on the line of Elena, give us
a little bit about what's going on in your dating world.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
I went on a date with this guy and he
was really nice, and I felt like we have really
had a connection. But I just I don't know he
goes to me for some reason. So okay, hope you
can help me.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, yeah, we want to hear your whole story. Okay,
we'll hear it next. Second Date Update starts next with
John Jay and Rich.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Maybe if you ever want to participate in second Ate
Update or wore the Roses or anything else, shoot us
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about why you want to be on the segment, or
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our social media.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Elena, good morning, good morning. Hi.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Hi. So you're on second Date Update.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
That means you met somebody, you went on a date,
you had a good time, You expected there to be
a second date and there is at one.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Tell us your story.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, First of all, thank you so much for taking
my call. I know you guys like get so many calls,
so I just I feel like I hope that this
one is like good for you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
But so I went on the state with this guy
and we had a really great time. Like dating has
been hard for me lately, but this one was. It
just felt really different. Like he took me to this
seafood restaurant and it was really it was like really popular,
and it was one that I had been thinking about.
So it just felt really like amazing that it was

(01:26):
almost like he knew where I wanted to go. And
also it's like not a cheap place. I was like, oh, wow,
he's going out of his way. He's like spending money
on me. He must really care, you know. It just
felt different. It just felt like a different experience because
I've been ghosted lately and I just thought that this
guy would be different and he didn't seem like he

(01:47):
was going to be that kind of guy. And fortunately,
like I guess, I don't know, he just has been
ghosting me. So I'm calling you because I really want
to know what happened. I don't know, like if I'm
the problem, I mean that could be it. Like I
don't know if I'm doing something that's terrible and I
just don't even know it. But like I just felt

(02:10):
I just felt the connect. I mean, like we were
even talking like we're both you know, we're both the
oldest of four. It's just like everything is seems like
really aligned, you know, and it just felt weird that
he just disappeared. So I just wanted help from you guys. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
I wonder if, like, since it was like a pricey
seafood spot, like what if you just went too hard,
Like you're like, like what if the bill wrapped up
to be like six hundred bucks and he was expecting
a three hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I mean I sort of like checked with him before
I like ordered anything that was too crazy, you know. Okay, okay,
like is that fun? You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Then what about the end of the day. Was there
a hookup?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I mean no, but I didn't know if it was trying,
if he was trying to be like keeping it chill,
like he kissed me on the cheek. But I got
a vibe, you know, like we were we still were
talking at that and you know it was like he
didn't want to leave. I got that feeling, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
That's good. Was there any let's do this again chat?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
At the end of the day, I think, so, I mean,
like I remember it that way. I mean, I don't know,
maybe I'm remembering something wrong. I guess like I could be,
but like it felt like you know, I I tried
to express it, but I don't want to come off
to like best spread or too intense or something, so
I just kind of left it a little open. But

(03:29):
he seemed to be into it and like he wanted
to see me again, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Mm hmm. Okay, well, how long ago was this?

Speaker 6 (03:40):
It was?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
It was two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, what's his name?

Speaker 6 (03:44):
Toby?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, we're gonna call Toby. We're gonna find out why
he's blowing you off. All right, So you just hang
tight and you stay on the line with us. You
jump in when you want to.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Let us get on home. Get it on the hole first. Okay.
So second date update continues next with John Jay Rich.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Sing I don't mean.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
John Day and Rich were in the middle of the
second date update, Elena went on a date.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
We told me. I forgot how they met? Did she say?
How they how'd you guys meet? How'd you guys meet?

Speaker 6 (04:19):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I mean it was just an.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
App you know happens a lot of those apps. Yeah, anyway,
went on a date two weeks ago. He took you
to an expensive seafood restaurant. Expensive. At the end of
the date, he gave you like a little kiss, looked
like he wanted to see you again, just on the
cheek type of deal, right, Yeah, Yeah, and you really
liked him.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, he just felt like different. It just felt like
a better date, like we had more of a connection.
He seemed like a different type of guy, different than
like a lot of the guys I've seen lately who
ghosted me.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh, a lot of other guys have ghosted you.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I mean, like not a lot. I'm not going on
like a.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
Lot, okay, but like how.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Many though on app rich?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I mean, I try to push myself to go on
at least one day to month because it's hard for
me to get up the you know, I just I
don't want to do it too much. But I also,
like I want to get out.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
There, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Right, So Toby ghosted you, and you said other guys
have ghosted you when we hang out with Toby, would
you like this to call the other people to find
out there's a common denominator They all ghosted you for
the same reason.

Speaker 8 (05:25):
Did you tell Toby this fact, because like if you
were open about that, like, oh, everyone keeps ghosting me,
he made it, may you know, set out a different
vibe of who you may be.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I mean, I guess. I asked him if that it
happened to him at all he's and he said it
did before. We didn't get too deep into it, like
I mentioned it, but I didn't say like a lot
of guys or I just said that I didn't like ghosting.
I guess, yeah, I think that's fair because that it
happened to me in the past like a.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Delight kind of quirky and fun I keep every time
I sleep with someone, I get ghosted.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
It's happened like fifteen times Toby.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Toby's like, I'm ghosted all r We're gonna get him
on the phone, okay, so hold.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
On, hold on, give up.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Hello, Hi is Toby there?

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Yeah, this is Toby.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Hey, my name's Peyton. I'm with John Jaye Rich and
we just wanted to talk to you on the radio
really quickly if you got time this morning the radio.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
Uh sure, Hey, So here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
We were talking to this really nice girl we're getting
into relationships and daty and talking about being ghosted, you know,
and this woman calls us up and says she's been
ghosted a couple of times and the most recent is you, Toby.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
So we were like, tell us about the date. She
told us about the date.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
They were like, you know, we're gonna call him and
we want to hear from you, Toby, your words of
why you ghosted Elena about two weeks ago.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Ah, yes, I uh, I do remember.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
You know.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
I feel bad because she's she's honestly, she's really sweet.
But the truth is she she came off like lacking confidence.
You know, people that are just overly apologetic for for
everything that they do. Like the whole day, she kept
putting herself down, saying things like, oh, I'm probably boring you,
or oh you probably don't really like me, you know,

(07:25):
and I get nervousness, Like I get that it's a
first day, and she was nervous, but I mean she
was even apologizing for everything that she ordered and and
the way she was talking.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know, It's just.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
It was a lot for.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Me that kind of makes sense to be around someone.
Let's do that all the time, because.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
It's like a pity party all the time.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
And.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
She's probably nervous, you know, so that was probably a
nervous Do you.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Think that maybe like she was just shy though, Toby,
like that could be a thing too.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Yeah, well, I mean, like that's what I'm saying. First,
you know, I thought it was you know, nerves, like
you know, like y'all said, being you know, she's feeling shy.
I get that, Like I totally understand that, but like
after a while, like you know, an hour into the date,
then it was just feeling sad. Like I'm not trying
to be mean, but I like a woman who's confident,

(08:19):
you know, who knows her worth, and I just didn't
get that from her at all. Like I mean, it
was just, like y'all said, like a pity party, and
it was sitting with somebody to me and like like
I don't I'm not trying to judge her, but like
just sitting with somebody that has like no self esteem
or no internal self work.

Speaker 8 (08:38):
I feel like what's more sad about this is that
the fact that you ghosted her probably made that insecurity
even worse.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah, that's so true, Kyle.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
Okay, And yeah, I I'll eat that. I accept that
that that was not the best way to go about it.
But I just honestly, I didn't really know how to
how to say what I just said.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, not only that, but she's actually also listening. She's
like on the line, Elena is still there.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Well, yeah, I'm here. Look sorry, I uh, I'm here.
I just look, I don't think. I don't know. I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 (09:24):
I didn't don't apologize, Elena.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Yeah, be you girl.

Speaker 8 (09:28):
Listen, Toby, you were the one who was scared and
so you ghosted.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
You should have called me back. That's you need to say, Lena.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
I don't know. This isn't full enough. I mean, look,
I will just say that, like Toby, I feel like
we had a really good time. I mean, if I
was on the same date you were like. No, I'm
not confident, but I liked you. I thought you liked
me too. And yeah, I'm guess. I guess I'm kind
of by and like awkward, and I don't really like

(09:59):
to I don't want to bother anybody, you know, Like,
I don't want to overstend, like we were at an
expensive place, you know what I mean. I don't want
to take all your money on a first date, then
you would definitely ghast me. You know, I just I
thought you liked me too, you know, I I don't
want you really can't give me a.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
Chance here, Like I mean, Elena, look, you're you're super
sweet and I hear you, but like you and even now,
it's just you're like even the host, Like honestly, if
you had come at me like the host just said,
or like you know, just hey, why do you you know, unapologetic,

(10:41):
I would have probably even been more receptive to another date.
But like, you know, you just I think you need
to work on, you know, just your own self esteem
and self worth and being confident and uh not apologizing.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Like you had me until you're like you need to
work on first of fall, Elena, Like you gotta love
yourself before you can love anyone else. And I think
your confidence probably stems from that. But you're great with
how you are, and do not beg this man to
give you another chance. Obviously he's not the one for you.
Because a man who's gonna shower you and show he's
gonna build up your confidence and not tell you what
you need to change about yourself when you just met

(11:18):
this guy.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, and I feel like he's just kind of saying
I'm pathetic or something and I'm not.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
Really.

Speaker 7 (11:25):
No, you sound you sound quirky, but that's cool. Just
keep the quirkiness because the guy is gonna just love
that because it's so different.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
It's just not a match. He's not the one for you.
You seem great, Yeah, but don't let nobody tell you
how to be you.

Speaker 8 (11:37):
But you can also see how it's been discouraging having
people you know, like reject you over and over again.
But he did say one thing, right, you should know
you're worth and you're worth a lot more than that.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well, thanks, guys, I just do I need to change something?

Speaker 5 (11:51):
No, be you be to grue to you, and then
everything else will fall into place exactly how it's supposed
to do.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Alrighty Lena, goodbye, Toby. Thanks for up in on the
air with us.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
Yeah, no problem, thanks, No, by all right, Elena.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
What's your advice, Peyton, move onward and upward?

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Yeah, be positive, love yourself and you'll be good.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
All right, Elena?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Okay, I will try not to apologize as much and
just I don't know own who I am.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Yeah, next day that works, but I.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Am worthwhile and I totally understand that, and yes, this
one is just not a match.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
You're right the next day. Try not to say sorry
even one time on the whole date.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Even if you spill stuff on him. Don't even sorry
to go look what you did? All right, thanks Elena?
All right that second update. J Rich
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