November 21, 2025 • 7 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Wake up, John Jay and Rich.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You're what's crack ag and this is the big bulls do.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Snoopy deagle, double jigsel dank boom, what you don't do
j we're not talking about rich ten team, We're not
talking about last year.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's the one and only.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Don't you know the glass lastly pikes your vegle double
jibble in your face to be and in the place.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
To be And you're listening to John Jay.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And Rich one old fort seven, Kiss fab John J.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And Rich. You can text us. You text jj R.
You gotta put the jj R in front of it.
I don't know why, but you gotta do the JJR.
Then whatever you want to say, and you text ninety
six eight ninety three. We'll get your text. We'll call
you back, we'll read your text.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
John J. Rich's first time concert was Billie Eilish, who
was amazing. And to get to experience with my daughter
who listens to her since she was in middle school
and all the way through middle school, is a fantastic.
Thank you for the tickets.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
You're welcome, and I feel like going to a Billie
Eilish concert like that. Seriously, even if you're not a
fan is such an insane experiences because the way that
she just has the crowd like in the palm of
her hands is just beyond me. It is magical truth.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
That means it cranked up in a stadium. It is
so cool too. Thats one of my favorite concerts the
last few years.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So Rich, last week you shared with us how you
fell running downhill, and then a couple days later you
were going to the lot Pup Family fast pulling some
equipment in a wagon.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, and just hurt your knee like it's split, it snapped.
I've never experienced that before, but I mean, everybody knows
pulling a wagon is hard, dangerous, a hard hat. I
was told to change my origin story. Let my wife's
like jumping up on stage jumping around with a guitar.
That's a cool way to hurt yourself. Pulling a wagon
is not very rock.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Well, then we taped a podcasted talking stick Resort and
Rich was wheeled in in a wheelchair.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I could not walk at all.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Well, I could put a little bit of weight on it,
but it felt like my leg which is gonna collapse.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You know what, you know what you just made me
think of something the way you hurt yourself. Was not
like to say I was on stage rocking out the
band is a cool way, it would be cool? Yes,
Why do we have people call it with really cool ways?
You heard yourself like jumping down the helicopter trying to
save somebody from a flood and you're holding on the
helicopter and you your arm.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah yeah, Now Rich.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Is pulling a wagon, a little blue wagon, by the way,
a little blue wagon anyway. So I've been doing PETE
every day because I'm really trying to avoid anything like
surgery or letting it get worse, right, And so what
I've heard is you take the you know, the steroid
to bring down the inflammation, but you're supposed to work
it through PETA and all that because that way you
can get it stronger. And they don't really want me
(02:36):
on crutches. They want me to learn how to walk.
So one of the things they suggested was acupuncture, which
I've done once a long time ago but don't really
remember it. But I went and did it yesterday. Acupuncture
and you lay down on the table and they start,
I think they feel around. They say they feel around
for like hotspots that might you know, be you know,
like like your body has a little finger. Yeah, and
(02:58):
then they stick the needles and they're pretty far and
it hurts in some spots. It hurts a lot, and
they put them, like in my lower back.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I thought it wasn't supposed to hurt at all.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I feel it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You do feel it some. There might be a few places,
like they put a good Christopher give it to you.
Maybe that's where you felt this sixty year.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Old Like if they put some stuff like you know
where you get a little more flesh, like in your
butt or something like that, you don't really feel. But
I felt it in my lower back and it aches
the whole time, and then my ankle and my shining
around my knees and all that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So I asked them.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
They think they put twenty twenty or so needles in,
But by the time it was done, I think it
helped me a lot. I think I feel maybe fifty percent.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Okay, Well, let me ask you, so, did it hurt
like it was causing pain or was it just achy
and sore? Okay, because there's a very, okay, very big
difference between something hurting.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
And something it was saky. But you know, like those
eggs that like you can feel in your stomach that
kind of ache. Where as soon as the timer went off,
I'm like, whyn't in here removing the needles?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Why ant in here?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
What if the electricity goes off and leaves me and
they leave me in this room, I might have to
pull out my own needles, Like I can't move. I
was freaking out once the clock because I was ready,
I was done, but it helped, Like, so I know
you're talking about doing it for yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, I actually am going today.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I made appointment.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, I made an appointment to do acupuncture in my
shoulder because I have like the worst shoulder pain. I
dissocated it when I was in college and I was
told that I tore my labrum. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I never want to know, like an MRI or don't
do that judging parabrum in my shoulder as a part judging.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
And so I was looking up things that would help
alleviate the pain. And one of the things I discovered
was that acupuncture could really hurt or help. But I
looked it up and hurt, and it said it doesn't hurt,
it aches. That's why when you said it hurts, I
was like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Is the same.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Maybe you guys, I'm sure you guys read the article
about me in the New York Post.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yes, is it out here.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I am very much a biohacker. I don't know stuff
about you know, healing and whatnot. And I have done
acupuncture many times many Now there is a difference, though,
Did you get acupuncture or did you get dry needling?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Did they hook up any electricity to them?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Okay, so you got acupuncture, okay, because I know there's
I think the difference is the person doing it, Like
if it's a PTE person, I believe it is.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It is the electricity with the they do that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
They do that, but I thought if it was if yeah,
they stick the needles in you just the same, there's
almost identical to the actual little electricity through it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, or they don't. It's they did.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So I feel like, and maybe I can google it
or maybe call you can what's the different between acupuncture
and dry needdling, because I feel it's the same thing.
It's the person that doesn't. If the person is an
Eastern medicine doctor, it's acupuncture. If it's a PETE person,
it's dry needdling. And one of them is illegal in
this state something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
The place that I'm going to is like a Chinese ocupuncture.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
There's keep in mind, you know, I'm only an expert
because they write about me the New York Post.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
And they say though, like with the needles, like when
your body starts healing it, it'll push the needles out
of your body.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
None of them pushed out of my bottle.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
The main difference is that acupuncture is based on traditional
Chinese medicine, while dry needling is rooted in Western medicine principles.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
So it's just like I'm also getting a foot reflex massage,
which I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Reflexology, that's that. Yeah, yeah, so excited like this.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
The acupuncture uses meridian lines to balance your body's energy
or your cheat to treat a variety of conditions, and
dry needling is targeted approach that inserts needles into like
myofacial trigger points in the muscles to relieve pain and
improof fund.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's what I think you have. I had acupuncture. I
think your guy got it wrong.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
It seems like the dry needling would work better for
you if you are trying to relieve pain and improve function.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But again, New York Post. Whatever I have, people says posts,
I'll go correct somebody that they do an exercise. Take
you yourroubles little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Excuse me, New York Posts.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
They're reposting this article about you. Of course we can
all we can all join along. Of course I want
to read that. I want to hear what you said
and how it ended up in print, because I heard
some ridiculous things. Is it out?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yes? Of course? Are you happy with it? You were
worried about ready yet? Oh I just heard it out?
Of course you. I'll post the link up there.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
What you should do is copy and paste it into
chad GPT and say, tell me what's good about this article.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This guy's an idiot. Summarize it's John Jaye Ritch
Wake up, John Jay and Rich.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You're what's crack ag and this is the big bulls do.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Snoopy deagle, double jigsel dank boom, what you don't do
j we're not talking about rich ten team, We're not
talking about last year.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's the one and only.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Don't you know the glass lastly pikes your vegle double
jibble in your face to be and in the place.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
To be And you're listening to John Jay.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And Rich one old fort seven, Kiss fab John J.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And Rich. You can text us. You text jj R.
You gotta put the jj R in front of it.
I don't know why, but you gotta do the JJR.
Then whatever you want to say, and you text ninety
six eight ninety three. We'll get your text. We'll call
you back, we'll read your text.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
John J. Rich's first time concert was Billie Eilish, who
was amazing. And to get to experience with my daughter
who listens to her since she was in middle school
and all the way through middle school, is a fantastic.
Thank you for the tickets.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
You're welcome, and I feel like going to a Billie
Eilish concert like that. Seriously, even if you're not a
fan is such an insane experiences because the way that
she just has the crowd like in the palm of
her hands is just beyond me. It is magical truth.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
That means it cranked up in a stadium. It is
so cool too. Thats one of my favorite concerts the
last few years.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So Rich, last week you shared with us how you
fell running downhill, and then a couple days later you
were going to the lot Pup Family fast pulling some
equipment in a wagon.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, and just hurt your knee like it's split, it snapped.
I've never experienced that before, but I mean, everybody knows
pulling a wagon is hard, dangerous, a hard hat. I
was told to change my origin story. Let my wife's
like jumping up on stage jumping around with a guitar.
That's a cool way to hurt yourself. Pulling a wagon
is not very rock.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Well, then we taped a podcasted talking stick Resort and
Rich was wheeled in in a wheelchair.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I could not walk at all.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Well, I could put a little bit of weight on it,
but it felt like my leg which is gonna collapse.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You know what, you know what you just made me
think of something the way you hurt yourself. Was not
like to say I was on stage rocking out the
band is a cool way, it would be cool? Yes,
Why do we have people call it with really cool ways?
You heard yourself like jumping down the helicopter trying to
save somebody from a flood and you're holding on the
helicopter and you your arm.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah yeah, Now Rich.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Is pulling a wagon, a little blue wagon, by the way,
a little blue wagon anyway. So I've been doing PETE
every day because I'm really trying to avoid anything like
surgery or letting it get worse, right, And so what
I've heard is you take the you know, the steroid
to bring down the inflammation, but you're supposed to work
it through PETA and all that because that way you
can get it stronger. And they don't really want me
(02:36):
on crutches. They want me to learn how to walk.
So one of the things they suggested was acupuncture, which
I've done once a long time ago but don't really
remember it. But I went and did it yesterday. Acupuncture
and you lay down on the table and they start,
I think they feel around. They say they feel around
for like hotspots that might you know, be you know,
like like your body has a little finger. Yeah, and
(02:58):
then they stick the needles and they're pretty far and
it hurts in some spots. It hurts a lot, and
they put them, like in my lower back.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I thought it wasn't supposed to hurt at all.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I feel it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You do feel it some. There might be a few places,
like they put a good Christopher give it to you.
Maybe that's where you felt this sixty year.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Old Like if they put some stuff like you know
where you get a little more flesh, like in your
butt or something like that, you don't really feel. But
I felt it in my lower back and it aches
the whole time, and then my ankle and my shining
around my knees and all that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So I asked them.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
They think they put twenty twenty or so needles in,
But by the time it was done, I think it
helped me a lot. I think I feel maybe fifty percent.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Okay, Well, let me ask you, so, did it hurt
like it was causing pain or was it just achy
and sore? Okay, because there's a very, okay, very big
difference between something hurting.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
And something it was saky. But you know, like those
eggs that like you can feel in your stomach that
kind of ache. Where as soon as the timer went off,
I'm like, whyn't in here removing the needles?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Why ant in here?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
What if the electricity goes off and leaves me and
they leave me in this room, I might have to
pull out my own needles, Like I can't move. I
was freaking out once the clock because I was ready,
I was done, but it helped, Like, so I know
you're talking about doing it for yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, I actually am going today.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I made appointment.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, I made an appointment to do acupuncture in my
shoulder because I have like the worst shoulder pain. I
dissocated it when I was in college and I was
told that I tore my labrum. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I never want to know, like an MRI or don't
do that judging parabrum in my shoulder as a part judging.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
And so I was looking up things that would help
alleviate the pain. And one of the things I discovered
was that acupuncture could really hurt or help. But I
looked it up and hurt, and it said it doesn't hurt,
it aches. That's why when you said it hurts, I
was like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Is the same.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Maybe you guys, I'm sure you guys read the article
about me in the New York Post.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yes, is it out here.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I am very much a biohacker. I don't know stuff
about you know, healing and whatnot. And I have done
acupuncture many times many Now there is a difference, though,
Did you get acupuncture or did you get dry needling?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Did they hook up any electricity to them?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Okay, so you got acupuncture, okay, because I know there's
I think the difference is the person doing it, Like
if it's a PTE person, I believe it is.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It is the electricity with the they do that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
They do that, but I thought if it was if yeah,
they stick the needles in you just the same, there's
almost identical to the actual little electricity through it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, or they don't. It's they did.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So I feel like, and maybe I can google it
or maybe call you can what's the different between acupuncture
and dry needdling, because I feel it's the same thing.
It's the person that doesn't. If the person is an
Eastern medicine doctor, it's acupuncture. If it's a PETE person,
it's dry needdling. And one of them is illegal in
this state something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
The place that I'm going to is like a Chinese ocupuncture.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
There's keep in mind, you know, I'm only an expert
because they write about me the New York Post.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
And they say though, like with the needles, like when
your body starts healing it, it'll push the needles out
of your body.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
None of them pushed out of my bottle.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
The main difference is that acupuncture is based on traditional
Chinese medicine, while dry needling is rooted in Western medicine principles.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
So it's just like I'm also getting a foot reflex massage,
which I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Reflexology, that's that. Yeah, yeah, so excited like this.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
The acupuncture uses meridian lines to balance your body's energy
or your cheat to treat a variety of conditions, and
dry needling is targeted approach that inserts needles into like
myofacial trigger points in the muscles to relieve pain and
improof fund.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's what I think you have. I had acupuncture. I
think your guy got it wrong.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
It seems like the dry needling would work better for
you if you are trying to relieve pain and improve function.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But again, New York Post. Whatever I have, people says posts,
I'll go correct somebody that they do an exercise. Take
you yourroubles little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Excuse me, New York Posts.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
They're reposting this article about you. Of course we can
all we can all join along. Of course I want
to read that. I want to hear what you said
and how it ended up in print, because I heard
some ridiculous things. Is it out?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yes? Of course? Are you happy with it? You were
worried about ready yet? Oh I just heard it out?
Of course you. I'll post the link up there.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
What you should do is copy and paste it into
chad GPT and say, tell me what's good about this article.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This guy's an idiot. Summarize it's John Jaye Ritch
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