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February 28, 2023 24 mins

The legendary Diane Warren and the talented Sofia Carson, are with me today! They're here celebrating the Academy Awards Best Original Song nomination of "Applause", written by Diane, and performed by Sofia, for the movie "Tell It Like A Woman".

You may not immediately recognize Diane's name, but she has penned countless hits, like "Rythm Of The Night", "If I Could Turn Back Time", "Nothin's Gonna Stop Us Now", Unbreak My Heart", "Because You Loved Me", "I Don't Want To Miss A Thing"... and so many others! Her latest, "Applause", is described as an anthem for women, yet I know once you hear it you'll agree that it's perfect for anyone who's ever faced a challenge - which means it's a song for all of us!

Sofia is fresh from her role as Cassie in Netflix's "Purple Hearts", where she also co-wrote and performed the soundtrack as well as acted as Executive Producer. You do NOT want to miss this dynamic duo! ~ Delilah

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
How is your month going. Are you seeing any signs
of spring yet? Any daffodils or crocus popping up out
of the cold, hard ground. I've got quite a few
daffodils that have popped up. They're not blooming yet, but
they've popped up out of the ground. I'm not so
sure they're happy about the way the weather has gotten

(00:26):
weird after that weird cold snap. They probably felt it.
They probably felt like pulling the covers back up over
their little daffodil heads and sleeping a few weeks longer.
March will be here before you know it. It'll probably
come roaring in like a lion, but hopefully it will
go out like a lamb. It is a month of transitions,

(00:50):
and by the time that the month of March has passed,
spring will be showing off in many wonderful ways. Let's
hope it is more lamb like than lion like. The
Oscars is an early spring event that's fun for a
lot of people. The dominees for sure, but the millions
of viewers too. Will you be watching the Oscars? If

(01:11):
it's something you look forward to all year long, you
will be thrilled with My guests today I've got a
dynamic duo with US legendary songwriter Diane Warren and beloved
actress singer Sophia Carson. The film they were involved with
last year, tell It Like a Woman, has received denomination

(01:33):
from the Academy for Best Original Song. Applause was written
by Diane and performed by Sophia Carson. Diane Warren is
one of modern music's most respected songwriters. She's penned nine
number one's, thirty two top ten hits on the Billboard
Hot one hundred. She is tied for having written the

(01:54):
most number one songs as a soul songwriter in Billboard's history.
She was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in
two thousand and one. You might not know her name,
but you got to know her songs. Rhythm of the Night,
If I could turn back time, Nothing's gonna stop us
now and break my heart because you love me and

(02:17):
my favorite I don't want to miss a Thing by Aerosmith.
All those songs sung by the biggest stars out there,
all pinned by Diane Warren. She's an honorary Oscar recipient
Honorary The woman has written the best songs in the
history of my career, been nominated fourteen times, and she's

(02:44):
won an Honorary Academy Award. She's won Grammy's, Emmy's Golden
Globe winners. Her songs have been featured in more than
a hundred motion pictures, and she's the sole owner of
her publishing company, Real Songs, the most successful female owned
and operated business in the music industry. Diane, who is

(03:07):
a recipient of a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Sophia Carson, who got her start on the Disney Channel,
is also a force of nature forging a singular path
in music, film, television, and philanthropy. She's a multi Platinum
Award nominated singer and songwriter. In addition to performing Diane's

(03:29):
song Applause that We're Gonna Talk About Today from the
movie Tell It Like a Woman. Sofia recently starred as
Cassie in the Netflix global phenomenon Purple Hearts, also serving
as executive producer. An She co wrote and performed the
film's original soundtrack. Next, Sophia will start opposite her friend,

(03:50):
her bestie Tarran Egerton and Jason Bateman in the Netflix
and Ambient thriller Carry On. Tell It Like a Woman
is each your film comprised of seven short stories with
women as the star. Each of the very different women
face different challenges in their lives, and they each face

(04:12):
them with extreme determination and courage that makes them stronger,
more self aware. Some of the stories, which take place
all over the world, are inspired by true events, while
others are narrative fiction. All speak to empowerment, perseverance, inspiration.

(04:35):
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me on love. Someone is the incredibly talented superstar written

(06:05):
every hit song I think I've played in the last
thirty or forty years of my career, Diane Warren, along
with a beautiful talented young actress and singer. And my
daughters and my granddaughters are all in love with so
Fia Carson. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you guys. Tell

(06:25):
It Like a Woman. I need to hear about how
this collaboration came together, how you two came together, and
how that collaboration came together. So I wrote the song
for the movie Talt Like a Woman, which is a
it's basically seven short films within one film about women's
various women's stories and struggles, and it needed to be
a song that could really speak to getting through it

(06:48):
and giving yourself some applause for everything that you went
through that you got through it. And it's really an
really empowering song. And there was nobody that I could
have gone to side Sophia to do the song because
she's she is what that song is all about. She's
such a strong woman, amazingly beautiful on the outside, beautiful

(07:10):
on the inside, great singer, and here we are. It's
just great that and it just got nominated for an
Oscar and yeah, not that, but yeah, give yourself apause. Yeah,
that's that's amazing. And just the fact that this song
is really, like like you said, it's you know, it's

(07:32):
resonating with people, it's resonating beyond the movie. That's the
best case scenario when you do a movie song or
any song that it resonates. But if you write something
for a movie and it fits that movie, which is
the first thing you have to do, but when it
can go beyond that movie and speak to what people
are going through, and everybody really needs to give themselves
some applause. No matter who you are, you have to

(07:52):
stop and go you know what. Life isn't easy. One
of the things I noticed when I listened to it,
like for the third or fourth time is that it's
an anthem and you could have had like share with powerful,
you know, tear your guts out, powerful voice, but Sophia,
your gentleness with those strong words combined, it's like silk.

(08:18):
Silk is the strongest fabric. Did you know this? The
silk thread if they could replicate If scientists could replicate
a silk thread, you could suspend a truck from a
rope like a half inch long. Wow, I mean a
half inch around. It's the strongest fabric there is. Wow.

(08:42):
And they can't they can't replicate that. And yet it's silk.
It's the soft, it's soft and it's strong. And so
that's that's Sophia. Yeah, that's what I got out of
that song. And you're not You're like, but you're not
like that and all that. You know, you didn't need
that for that song. You couldn't have beend it, you
know it needed Yeah, powerful and in the power is

(09:09):
I can't explain what I'm trying to say. Maybe and
the emotion, Yeah, it's like it's the that's what I got.
I love. This is an empowerment song, but it is
like silk. It's strong, but it's not abrasive, it's gentle.
If other singers would have saying it, it could have
been you know, could have it might have been abrasive.

(09:31):
But what Sophia brought to it is that quiet power.
It's like that wiet power. You're right, It's like, yeah,
you know, it's like you know, it's like some of
someone whispers and you have to like lean in to
hear it, right, and then it's that's what's beautiful about it.
But it's still powerful and at the end you get
you go full on power. Then yeah, So I've got
some questions here, Sophia, that granddaughter wrote to me who

(09:56):
loves You, and she said, what is the favorite rule?
What's a favorite role you've ever played? Oh, favorite role
I've ever played? That's it's a tough question. Um. I
don't have kids, but it feels like it's like picking
your favorite child in a way, because I've really like
your favorite song. It's like every role that you've played

(10:18):
or every song they steal a piece of your heart.
You know, you pour a piece of yourself into this
character and you love them for a different reason. Um.
But it is true maybe with kids as well, that
you too have favorites or at least I have favorites,
I would say right now, maybe because it's fresh just
in my memory, or I think it meant a lot

(10:38):
to me as an actor and as a performer as
I was acting as her. It was Cassie and Purple Hearts,
um my movie on Netflix, right yeah, big yeah, big phenomenon.
And her other question was was it difficult to transition
from being a kids star to the phenomenon that you'd become.

(10:59):
Was that got a hard transition or it's if Sometimes
it's a fun fact for people. I think sometimes people
think that I started younger than I did. But I
was not a kid's star. I was twenty one when
I got my first job. I had gone to college.
I got my first dish or my first callback in
the middle of final exams at UCLA. So I wasn't

(11:21):
a child star. So I was lucky that I didn't
have as difficult as a transition as I would imagine
if I was a child in this business. I was
an adult, and although I have grown a lot as
an artist throughout the years, it's felt like a very
seamless transition. Every song that I've written, every role that
I've chosen with time. I feel like I've grown with

(11:42):
my audience at the same time, and it's been a
really beautiful journey. Well, I hope you have many, many,
many more decades of this beautiful Ny. She will, by
the way I think she will. And Diane, oh my gosh.
Last night I jotted down a list because I don't

(12:04):
know if you can see here, but I take notes
while I'm on the air. I write down the person's
name and a little bit about their situation. Joslyn lost
two kids and their best friends in a tragic accident,
and Jamie wanted a song, you know, So I take
these notes and I went through like the last two

(12:24):
weeks of my notes, and I just want to read
you a list of some of the songs, Diane, that
were requested just in the last two weeks. I get
week by Brenda Carlyle. Nothing's going to stop us now.
For a couple that both went through COVID, both ended
up in the hospital, both are back on their feet
and just going forward into the future. If I could

(12:48):
turn back time, I wrote this down Maria, who lost
her hubby and wanted to tell him one more time
how much she loved him, And she said, I know
that song means something else, but for me, if I
could turn back time, I just want to say I
love you again. Oh my god, Wow, my favorite song ever.
I don't want to miss a thing. That was Peter

(13:10):
for his wife Linda a fifty five years Wow, that's
the song he wanted. Perfect. Somebody called last night who
was getting married. One of that is their wedding song.
Reba ile B was requested Taylor Dane, I'll be your shelter.
I got that request like two weeks ago, and I'm

(13:32):
way back in the Yeah, I'm sitting here as I'm
going through my notes going, oh my gosh, it's like
you you have like this direct connection to the heartbeat
of my audience. Wow. It's yeah, because music is so powerful,
you know, Like and even if you write something from

(13:53):
a movie, you know, outside of that movie, it takes
on another life. Like you know, I don't want to
miss the thing was Armageddon, you know, but yet it
becomes this big anniversary song you know, applause. It is
written you know, for the movie. Tell it like a woman,
but yet it goes beyond that and it speaks to people,
you know that. I just love the fact that these songs,

(14:13):
can you know speak to whatever somebody's going through? I
think that listening to the words of applause over and over.
You know, schools are trying hard coming out of COVID
to re engage kids and get them reconnected to what
matters to them. I was thinking as I listened to

(14:34):
the words of that song. We need to have grade
schools and junior highs and high schools having assemblies and
being gifted that song for each kid. Now, I'm down
any any school can use that. I'm happy to let
that song be used everywhere. Wouldn't that just be amazing
if kids could listen to the lyrics and go, you know,

(14:56):
you're so right, absolutely everything. Recognize who you are sometimes
I know it's hard, but you shine. You're super nova.
They can't stop you. You were born unstoppable, and you
dared to dared to know you're remarkable. Stand up, raise
your hands up everything. It's about flooding yourself, loving yourself,
using your voice, being unafraid. It's absolutely what everyone in

(15:19):
the world needs to hear, especially, like you said, children
who are being molded as we speak, and bullied as
we sallied believe I was bullied. I was I was
one of those kids that gotullied a lot. You too, Yeah, yeah,
you know what. Look where we are now and what
we're what we're here. We're like doing so well, and
you are so the antithesis of bully. You have a
rescue farm where you save lives of animals and the

(15:44):
biggest heart in the world. Exactly. You like to hide
behind this and a snarky um facade, but I stay
right through it. You've just got this huge heart for humanity,
for the planet, for creatures, for animal for the things
that have single handedly written the songs that are synonymous

(16:06):
with love. You know what I mean, Like she has
a pulse on that, like you said, in the most
extraordinary way. Thank you. That's your superpower. Thank you, that's
your superpower. You're able to take the human experience, whether
it's losing somebody, whether it's going through you know, hell
and standing. You said one time, you know what, I

(16:30):
would much rather know that my song is number one
and people are requesting it, then get some stupid award.
Your priorities are right, Yeah, I want these songs to
reach people. Of course, you know it wouldn't someone doc
if somebody would like recognize it, but we already agnize it.
Thank you. You know, I had tim million folks tuning

(16:52):
in every night who recognize it, so million every night,
fourteen time Academy Award nominations. Yeah, I mean that's pretty cool.
But I mean it's just exciting the fact that you know,
here all you know, you know, with ten million people
listening to you, and they're requesting my songs over and
over and over, and beautiful thing is this song is
going to speak to all of them. Applause. Yeah, everybody,

(17:14):
no matter who you are. You know, like the most
confident person in the world is not confident. Yeah, you
know you might have like what you just said about me,
Like you know, someone could be so confident and like
you think they're they've got so together, but you know what, inside,
you know, they're beating beating themselves up and they don't
really know who they are. If just one out of

(17:35):
ten people who listen to applause take it to heart
and go, dang I I am. If you look at
your fingerprint, there's nobody else like you in the history
of taking fingerprints that has ever been found to have
the exact same fingerprint. Did you know that not even
identical twins. Yeah, they're pretty identical. Twins have different finger prints.

(18:00):
They begin identical, but then as life goes on and
you get burned or you get cut, it changes the
nature of your singer prints and even the habits you have,
how you hold your pencil, that sort of thing. Right,
If we are that unique by a one inch square
piece of skin, how much more unique by our hearts,

(18:20):
our souls, our passions, our experiences, our dreams. And that's
what applause speaks to. Wow, wow, that's deep. But it's true.
It's true. It's true. I can't sing a note. I
have a three note range. I went out for quiet.
Voice goes way beyond that three note. By the way

(18:40):
you look exactly, Realize who you are, Jelilah. Realize and
realized I was a super nover superstar who was given
a voice to talk, not to sing. And that's that's
my gift, that's my superpowers. Your voice still your voice,
your voice and heels and makes a difference. Yeah, and
everybody has a voice, even those who literally don't have

(19:04):
the ability to speak, they still have their story to share.
So thank you for applause, and thank you for years
and years and years of great music. How wild is
it that we get a chance to talk to these
two incredible, empowered women. I'm in heaven right now. My
girls are in heaven right now. We've got a little

(19:26):
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(20:52):
Purple Heart Descendants, I send so I have a shoe
fits and feel the feat Oh my god, thank you
so much for watching those do a favorite of them
a descendant Descendant. That's awesome. I'm just I am thrilled
that you. I know that it's a crazy season and

(21:13):
you've got a lot going on, and you got a
lot of interviews. And by the way, you both look hot. Um,
thank you. It's lighting. Lighting, lighting is working at Diane,
your hair is rocking. And the little shiny star there
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(21:33):
wow wow. Yeah socket to them. So thank you for
taking time to be and I appreciate you both. Thank you. Yeah,
I'm gonna that's all good. Everybody in the room give
yourself from applause, all right, and I'm gonna be enjoying

(21:55):
playing that. For no kidding. At least ten of the
people I talked to last night on the phone needed
to hear that message. So yeah, I can't thank you
women enough for being with us who are incredibly talent,
and those talents are a gift to so many. Please

(22:18):
keep doing what you're doing, come back and join me again.
Best of luck on Oscar night you, Diane, you deserve
this honor so much. Legendary songwriter Diane Warren beloved singer
songwriter actress Sophia Carson released the original song Applause from
the feature film Tell It Like a Woman. The song,

(22:38):
beautifully penned by Warren and passionately but gently performed by Carson,
is a global anthem of empowerment, not just women, but
empowerment for all of us, and it's available now. Carson
has expressed her honor at being the voice for the
song dedicated to the women of the world. She calls

(22:59):
it a deeply timely reminder to applaud ourselves for how
far we've come, because we fight like women, we survive
like women, and we do it together. Diane two fills
a similar honor, saying to be a part of a
film that promotes women in front of and behind the
camera has been a very rewarding experience. Sophia's beautiful and

(23:20):
dynamic voice embodies the emotion and strength of both the
song and its message. The film premiered at the Taromia
Film Festival, where it won the Excellence Award. It arrived
on video on demand platforms including Google Play, Prime Video,
and Voodoo on February seventeenth. Be sure to check it

(23:42):
out and be watching the ninety fifth Academy Award ceremony
March twelfth. Cheer On Diane Applause is hailed as a
female empowerment anthem, but after listening, you will see how
easily it will be everyone's anthem. Every man, every woman,
every child, who has ever had to face the wind,

(24:03):
has persevered, has overcome obstacles, has been made stronger for it.
Of course, that includes you. Whatever you're facing, trust that
it is not permanent. All storms pass, and we're generally
more compassionate people because of them. On your darkest days.

(24:25):
Look for signs of hope, the new buds that are
starting to come out on the trees, a bird's call,
a bird's nest, an empowering song, and of course, tune
into my radio show each night. I'll do my best
to keep you company through the good days and the
tough days. Give yourself applause. You've got this. God bless you,

(24:48):
and I'll see you next time. I love someone with
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