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for coming, Thank you for spending time with us. Absolutely,
thank you so much for having me so many many
things I want to ask you because I have been
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a fan for so long. My godson Ryan, who by
the way, when he first saw you, came to me
and said, I saw the woman I'm going to marry
No way, Yeah, yeah he did, he did, And so
he turned us on to you, and he's played so
many of your videos for us, for me and the
kids over the years. And when I first saw you,
the thing that I was drawn to is how authentic
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you seem, and then I got to meet you and
hang out with you, and you are who you are
and I love that. Oh well, thank you so much.
You know, I mean, I think that when you're true
to what you love, you can't fake authenticity. No, you can't,
although some people try. Absolutely you would be amazed. But
you are authentically down to earth and adorable. Oh thanks,
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absolutely adorable. I don't play video games, but I have
seen you as the little elf in Zelda. Well you know,
I got into that because well I played a little
bit at some video games as a kid. But I
love the music in them. I love that they tell
stories through the music and video games, and I love
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dress up and so making and to play these characters
is really you don't get to wear the elf fears
and everything. Cosplay is fun. It is, and you're you
do it. Well, you're adorable. You're just like a natural
little adorable elf hopping around and playing and having a blast.
So well, thank you. That's my one of my goals
in life, bounce around as an elf. And I'm succeeding,
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I guess. And so I got to ask you, are
you like, are you in a serious relationship? Lindsay sterling Ooh,
one will never tell I am I'm dating a gentleman
so at the moment, but you know, I've had many
years single, you know, being a working woman, it's hard
to balance that love life. And because my son, my
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god son, Ryan is willing to help you with oh yeah,
oh okay, oh yeah, he's so willing to help you
with that. I'm just saying, just putting it out there. Well, yeah,
you know, if you put something out of the universe,
that's the best way that it could possibly come to fruition.
That is true, A strong believer in that. That is true.
So you play violin, and you've been playing for how long?
Oh gosh, well do I reveal my age? Oh? Just?
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I mean you were a child? I was. Yeah, I
was six years old when I started. So I've been
playing upwards of you know, twenty years. Wait, far over
twenty years. And when did you know that you had
a gift? Well, you know, to be honest, I wasn't
an incredibly gifted child in any way. Like you know,
it came slowly to me and all my parents encourage you.
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Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait, you're telling
me you had to practice kids? You gotta practice today.
Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, you're telling me
you had to have discipline and practice something to be good.
Oh my goodness, boyd I had actually a terrible pitch
as a child, and as a violinist you have to
have impeccable pitch, and so that was something I had
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to work on a lot. Whoa, whoa. Mind blown, ladies
and gentlemen, young people, listen to this. Lindsay Sterling, who
was recognized as the premier, the top female violinist in
the world right now, is saying, you have to work
on it, oh very much. So. You know, if there's
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one thing I've learned and how to do, it's it's
even more so than play the violin or dance. It's
I think I've learned to work really hard. And that's
where I'm at, why I'm where i'm at today. Wow,
I'm better at working. I'm fun because I have You know,
a lot of kids and a lot of people think
that you just like snap your fingers and you're a
protege or you're famous, or you're and you have had
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to work incredibly hard, oh incredibly hard. Well, and I
think it's you know, it's ironic when people say to me, oh,
I took violin lessons for a little bit, but I
was terrible. And I'm like, I don't know anyone that
started the violin and that was good at it. Like
it's you know, it's not a very forgiving instrument. It's
very you know, it's like a trombone. Trombone is not
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a forgiving instrument. No, you're exactly right, And you have
to play for a while before you can even make
a good sound, let alone play it. But just making
a nice sound is you know, it takes a while.
So so who was it harder on you having to
have discipline and practice or your folks having to listen
to that. I'm going to probably say my sisters. Actually,
my parents knew they were in for this, you know
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when they signed me up for the violin lessons. But
I remember my sisters used to clever their ears and
be like, mom, maker stop. But you know, I think
that's why I practiced so hard, because it was Wow,
I found something that will drive my sisters insane. You
know how kids are, Yeah, I do, I do. And
I was the sister that drove my sister insane. Lindsay
Sterling hold that thought and we'll be right back. The
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me and the student as Lindsay Sterling. And you said
something upstairs when we were talking beforehand. My youngest daughter,
little Delilah, was, you know, getting your attention and performing
for you. And I told you that she's allowed one
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activity either, you know, one activity a season. I'm not
going to be doing two or three sports or two
or three activities. And your face lit up, and you said,
that's why I played the violin, because you told your folks,
what was your choice? What did you want to do? Well?
As a kid, I, you know, five six years old,
I begged for dance lessons and violin lessons, and so
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my mom took me to one of each, and then
it was kind of you have to choose, you know,
they just could not afford one, let alone both, and
so they I chose the violin and played my entire life.
And it wasn't until my you know, like after I
think I was twenty three when I was like, I'm
going to dance. I'm going to teach myself to dance.
And so it wasn't till way later in life. And
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again I had to work incredibly hard as to train
my body in my twenties to do what a dancer does. Yeah,
because most dancers starts six, seven, eight ten, Oh yeah, absolutely,
so you had ketchup. So how many hours a day
did you practice when you decided to learn how to dance?
How many hours a day did you train? You know,
I can't even I can't even tell you half an hour,
an hour, two three, I mean two hours, probably because
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not only was I trying to dance, but I actually
would try to dance while playing and so to kind
of master that. So that's how I dance the best,
actually is when I have a violin in my hand,
because that's how I taught myself to dance. And yeah,
hours hours of meticulously practicing the most simple movements, you know,
and at first I called it dancing, but it was
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more like just kind of wiggling my body, or it
looked like I was playing hopscotch with a violin. But
you know, because it was so unnatural, and slowly over
the years it's turned into dancing and twirling and jumping.
And so when you play the violin, do you see
the music? Some people, I mean, I can tell you
feel it in your dance. You interpret it intuitively in
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your dance? Do you see it? Are there colors associated
with it? Do you you experience it in your other senses?
You know, I've heard that some people. I wish I
saw music in colors. I think that's such an incredible gift.
But I see it in a different way. And oftentimes
when I'm writing a song, I'm in the studio with
a producer and we're writing a song, and I'll get
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an idea just by the sounds. All of a sudden,
I'm like, oh my gosh, this song is a pirate song.
This song is meant for dancing pirates. And so all
of a sudden, you know, the producers actually think it's
quite funny, and they're like really, and I'm like, yes,
it's pirates. And so we'll finish out the song for
a pirate that's dancing and you know, and that's just
one example, but I've written so many songs that either
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before or while I'm in the studio, I may not
see colors, but I see stories. You see stories. Yeah,
and you've been able to produce those in some incredible videos.
Oh that's you know. I went to film school. Actually
I didn't study music and call it. I ended up
going I wanted to be a director, and so one
of my loves, one of my huge passions is directing
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and creating videos. And I love that I have combined
two of my passions into one thing. I loved, you know,
telling story through music and I love doing it visually.
And now I get to do both. And you get
to dance and you get to wear the most incredible costumes.
Oh my favorite. I love designing costume. So who sews
your costumes for you? Well? I work with some incredible
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stylists and we bring on you know, we bring on
different seamstress to kind of bring our visions to life.
But everything from you know, I can go to her
and say, I want to be like a you know,
a ring master of a circus, and that was in
my last tour of One of my costumes had this
awesome red coat, and we made one for my dog
as well, so she could come on stage and do
a trick mid show. Like we I just love to create,
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you know, an evening for if someone's going to come
to a show, I want them to be thoroughly entertained.
I don't want to just play music or just I
want them to learn something. I want them to leave
having felt something. I think anybody who watches your videos,
or goes to your show, or even encounters you has
to feel a lot. You bring out the feels. Oh,
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thank you so much. That's I think that's what every
artist hopes to do, you know, is to make everyone
feel something. Will you do a fabulous job. So tell
me about the new song that we've been playing, and
that love is such an amazing feeling. Tell me how
that came to be. Well, you know, that song kind
of encompassed what I wanted the album to, like, kind
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of be the pinnacle of the album's story. Because my
album is called Brave Enough. And when I was writing
this album, I was experiencing a lot of loss. You know,
my best friend had just passed away. When I started writing,
and my dad was going through cancer treatment, and you know,
pretty much I was preparing myself that he was most
likely going to pass away, and so I was just
experiencing all this grief, all these emotions, and trying so
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hard not to emotionally close off. And you know, an
it's my nature to kind of recoil and become a
workaholic and you know, work my way through problems and
fight on, hold on. I need to just look at
producer Janey as you say that, because I don't know
anybody else in this room like that now, you know.
I think it's one of the bigger things that our
society struggles with is using There's so many different ways
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to numb, whether it's turning to our phones or devices
or you know. I mean, there's really unhealthy ways of
numbing that we can all think of. But also I
think workoholism is something that I struggled with so much,
you know, and being so busy that I didn't have
time to even feel, you know, And here I am
trying to write an album, and you cannot write music
if you refuse to let yourself feel. And so love's
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just a feeling is about opening, you know, is about
me opening my heart, being willing to accept the storms
of life along with the sun, because you cannot see
the sun unless you look up, and you know, with
the chance of scene clouds, you can't. You cannot selectively
numb emotions. You can't numb the you know, the bad
without numbing the good. And no one wants to live
a gray life, to live a life that experiences the
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full spectrum of colors. And so that's in a very
long winded version, that's what the song is about. But
we do, so many people do. We were talking about
this outside our society numbs us down and dumbs us down,
and so many people do live in a world of
gray where because we're distracted, constantly distracted, or sitting in
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traffic or you know, addicted to alcohol or drugs or
whatever it is, we are numb right well. And you know,
I there's just so many ways I have found myself numbing.
I keep finding it in different ways trying to sneak
into my life. For a while, I suffered from anorexia,
and that is an extreme way to numb yourself. If
you want to live a gray, feelingless life, you know
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there's a key, but nutrients out of yourself exactly like
starve yourself. And I was miserable, and yeah, I wasn't
feeling the you know, I wasn't feeling anything, and it
left me so empty, and you know, so wait, wait,
So for all the young women listening and men, because
a lot of young men are dealing with body image, now,
what was the breakthrough that you said, I can't do this.
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I need to take care of me, I need to
nurture my body. Well, you know, it was, first of all,
an extreme realization when I finally realized I woke up
and realized, oh my gosh, I'm anarexic. And I had
kind of been in denial for so long and finally
it became apparent. And what really clicked it for me was,
wait a second, I used to be really happy. And
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I remembered this all of a sudden when I was
with my sister and we were roommates in college. She
was my best friend growing up, and I looked across
at her. She was we were both in our room
and she was doing her homework and I thought, I
don't remember the last time I laughed with my sister.
I don't remember the last time we shared a funny conversation,
or I don't actually know anything about what she's going through.
And I realized, when did I become this shell of
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a human that only thinks about what? Wow? I only
think about food and weight and scale numbers and I
and this woke me up to the string of events
caused me to realize I was annarex and I was
so unhappy and had no motivation in my life was
I was miserable and I hated myself. And this realization
made me realize I didn't used to be this way,
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and I knew how to work hard. I learned to
play the violin, I had taught myself to dance. I
had overcome many things in my life, and I thought,
I know how to work through problems and I did
everything I could. In that moment, I switched. I have
a switch flipped in my head and I started researching,
I started going to counseling, I started going to group therapies,
and I mean, it took a lot of work, and
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it's made me realize that sometimes happiness is something you
have to fight for, the same way we work on
our appearance and our bodies and go to the gym,
or the same way you work on a talent or
Ballerina's learned to have perfect you know, poise as they
spin on their toe. Happiness sometimes takes work. Sometimes it
takes more work for others than it might be for
someone else. But it's something I think we all have
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to work for and we can fight for. And I
truly believe that if you put in the time, anyone
can get over their obstacles and that we can all
be happy. So when you when you had that aha moment,
I'm sure that your sister you said, was there. I'm
guessing she was the first person you shared this with.
Did they go no, or was it like, ah, we've
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been watching you slowly kill yourself. It was a little
bit of a moment, you know, like, yes, we know,
you know, mom knows, everybody knows, and it created this.
You know, I didn't tell even though a lot of
people probably knew. I'm sure my roommates knew. But you know,
my family was my core, and you know, it's something
that takes time. I didn't just jump into you know,
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full gear right away at first. My family was my
my support system, just my mom and my sister. And
then I started with positive self talk. Okay, I'm going
to work on the thoughts in my head. They're terrible.
I'm so mean to myself. I say horrible things every day,
so I'm going to turn those around slowly. I'm going
to say what I should be saying. And then it
turned into I'm going to go to therapy, and you know,
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because it's really hard to go from zero to one hundred,
and it takes time, it does, so it was fun.
That's why it's called one step at a time, you know,
one day at a time, one step at a time.
And today you look very healthy. I am. I'm a
healthy girl. And I saw you eating the key, so
I know you're not in a pie and a healthy
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little slight it was it was organic though, all those
berries came from the farm, which if it's organic, oh
it was amazing. And whole sugar, you know, it's rocking sugar,
So yeah, I can justify a cheese pie anyway. Well,
I'm glad your style. So you have not only had
those kind of obstacles, but you also have sang about
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or performed about and talked about in some of your
videos that I've watched the struggle of having other people
not believe in you or not see the gift in you.
And I'm going to get emotional while they talk about this.
But you did a video or you played in the
New York subway system and you were in costume, you
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had a wig on, but it was clear it was you, right,
I mean, it wasn't like you had makeup on to
hide that. And you were performing in the subway system.
And as I'm watching the video, because you the way
you the video was produced, when was this your idea
to intersperse it with you on stage? Yeah? It was.
So there was a clip of you in the subway
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with people you know, on their cell phones and walking
by and bumping into you and being rude. Then there'd
be a clip of the adoring fans on stage, and
then a clip back in the subway of people you know,
kicking the little Nativity scene over or just being so caustic,
almost aggressive towards you while you were performing, and then
a clip of people, you know, weeping when they got
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to meet you and get your autograph. And that was
such a good juxt of position. But as I was
watching that video, I kept thinking you had you had
to have edited this. Surely there were people like myself
in that subway who would have recognized you and thrown
their arms around you and taken selfies with you. Well,
you know, to be honest, I remember being quite humbled
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that that was not the case. You know, I thought, Okay,
I'm probably gonna have to edit this video, edit out
the people that you know, maybe stop and listen. But really,
I you know, I was there for about two hours
to catch all these shots, and the cameras were hidden,
and I can only remember, you know, there was one
young man that stopped and listened and his eyes filled
with tears and you know, until his subway came and
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then he got on. But other than that, you know,
people wouldn't look me in the eye. It really made
me think, Wow, how often do I go through my
day and I go through the cash register, you know,
and I don't even look at the cashier's face as
I do my transaction, and just so you know, I'm
on my phone, and like, how often do we just
not see like the beautiful people that are around us
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every day? And it really did remind me of a
time when you know, that was all I'd had to
do was perform you know, on the street corner sometimes
are performing open mic nighter for people that wouldn't even
look me in the eye. And it's not that my
playing has changed, it's just that, you know, I'm a
different person now due to you know, for some people,
because of social media has made me quote famous, and
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so in that scenario, I'm worth looking at. But when
I'm in a subway playing and no one knows who
I am, does that make me any less of a person? No,
you know, but there's beautiful people around us every day. Well,
at the end of the video, you shared those thoughts
and you also shared your faith, which just blew me
away because a lot of artists that I interview won't
even you know, touch on the subject of faith or
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God or spirituality or anything like that. But there were
so many great scenes in that one song. It shot
in the subway where you had the camera on the
little Nativity scene. Yeah, and then at the end when
you talked about the gift that we're all given, you know,
the gift of love that God gives us out he
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sees all of us. I love that. I think, Well,
my faith has been just a huge part of my life,
not only is it the way I was raised, you know,
but it I feel like in this world and this industry,
you know, wherever you find yourself there, it's hard to
find a foundation that's solid in this world. And I've
kind of planted my feet. I've chosen my faith and
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my family as my foundation. And so as my life
has literally flipped upside down and so many ways through
the last couple of years, I'm the same person, you know,
and I always hope to stay that same person because
I believe that God gives us all love. I believe
that every person is full of that love, and you know,
and that's that's what helps you see people in the
right way. It's what helps you realize what's actually important.
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And yes, sometimes I forget, you know, day by day,
but it's good to have that foundation to bring me
back to that. So family, faith, people that surround you
that you love. You were talking about taking your mom
to a words seron. My mom was my date to
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the Billboard Awards, which was so much fun. You know,
I've never gotten to I've taken sisters before, you know.
I was like to take my family members on these
adventures with me, and my Mom's come on tour a
couple of times, but I realized she hasn't been to
the award show yet, Like, come on, So Mom was
my date. And it's funny, she didn't really know who
any of the celebrities where people are freaking out over
so and so, and she'd be like, oh was that
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And I'd whispered in her ear with that's someone. So
she's a singer, that's an actor. And then Chaer came
on stage at the end of the night, and oh my,
Mom stood up so fast. So she knew the diva,
she knew the way she got. So she's like, oh,
my goodness, I used to listen to Sonny and Share
and just she went off of, you know, talking about
that the whole rest of the night, how great it
was to see Share. So the night was a success
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because Mom got to see Share. Yeah, well I haven't
got I've got to meet Share before. And you can
tell your mom this for me, she is as aw
awesome and beautiful in personally. Yeah, yeah, I love hearing that.
That's passed it alone. She was as well, very very kind,
just very you know, she had this huge head dress
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on and all these jewels on because she's getting ready
to go on stage. Oh, I was going to say,
did you meet at a restaurant? I'm at a rise
like that, right, No, right before she goes on stage.
And yet she was like, oh, Grabor, I come over
here and let me give you a hug. And I'm like,
oh my gosh. Oh was it a little bit of
a like starstruck moment? Yeah, because I know you meet everybody,
so yeah, it was. It was definitely a big starstruck more. Yeah. Yeah,
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Oh that's cool. Yeah. So of all the people you've
got to meet since you've become you know, Lindsay Sterling,
the famous dancer violinist elf, who has been your starstruck moment?
Are your most fun Well? I have just a brief
story on that. It was after the Billboards War Billboard Awards,
like two three years ago, and I got invited, you know,
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to Taylor Swift's after party, and I thought, oh, it's
probably one of those huge after parties where you know,
just everybody was invited. Anyways, we go up the you know,
we go there and there's like fifteen twenty people on
this rooftop and I just think we must be in
the wrong place. But then there's you know, Faith Hill
and Tim McGraw and Ed Sheeron and Taylor Swift and
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my sister grabs my hand and she's like, oh my gosh,
who are we supposed to talk to at this party?
And we're like, oh no. But then Taylor Swift calls
my name and is like, get over here, girl, and
we literally turned around, thinking, oh, Lindsay Lohan must be here,
somebody like another Lindsay, another Lindsay. She looked right at
me and said, Lindsay, get over here, and we were
so stupid looking. We turned around and then looked right
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back at her and I kind of like motioned to
myself like me, and she's like yes. Anyways. Then Taylor
Swift was the kindest, nicest, you know, most gracious host
and you know, talk to me and took me over,
you know, showed me where the dessert table. Taylor swiftl
who knew? But I don't know. I don't remember anything
we talked about because I was I was trying so
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hard to not stutter, and I was trying so hard
to just be like quote normal. But wow, what a
surreal moment. That's kind of how I feel like when
I met you. Honestly, seriously, even though seriously, Lindsay, because
I'm such a fan and I kind of feel like,
though I never met you, like kind of like a
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mom because my kids relate to you so much and
you're like a part of their vernacular. Oh that's so cool.
And my little daughter Delilah wants to be you. You know,
it's so cute. She is. She is full of energy.
Oh she wants in life. Oh boy, yeah boy, oh boy.
Fearless as you said, fearless. She and her sister Blessing
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both were born without the fear factor, or if they were,
they certainly lost it quickly in their environment in Africa,
and so they are just bold. Bold. Yeah, you can
feel it from them too, like they are powerful women.
They are going to be They're powerful girls. They are
going to be very powerful women. Yeah, God help the
person that tries to stand in their way. Exactly. They're
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going to have the motto you can either move aside
and applaud me, or I will run you over. Those
are your options. Like it. We could all take a
page from that book. You know, you're doing pretty good.
So I've been talking with Lindsay Sterling. How can folks
find all these great videos of yours online. Ooh, I
love YouTube, so you can go to YouTube and look
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up Lindsay Sterling, all kinds of interesting. It's STI yeah,
l I n g. If somebody wants to do that,
and I just have to say, they have to watch
first off, number one, Phantom at least twice. Oh that's
your favorite. That's my favorite because I love that music.
I love that music. I love that play. I've seen
it like ten times, so good. Yeah, Phantom, they have
to watch that a couple of times. Lim is, Oh
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you're a Broadway fan. Yeah, big Broadway fan, love it.
The Electric Electric Daisy was that? Oh yeah, yeah, very cute.
I love the Western one. Oh. Roundtable. That's my personal
favorite is Roundtable. Rival and the guy who plays a guitar,
he's one of your band members, right, Actually he was.
He was not one of my band members. We brought
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on an act no, so yeah we did. Who is he?
A beautiful bad guy? Durango Black? Well that was his
bad guy name anyway, Durango Black. Yeah you can. You
could come and drop my bad with your guitar. Drango. Yeah,
that was fun. That one was so fun to make
my band wasn't that they were some of the extras,
like the cop or the sheriff, I mean the deputy
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and sheriff in the video. So many fun videos. Lindsey Sterling,
thank you so much and God bless you. Thank you
for having me, and God bless you as well. You're
You're amazing. It's been so wonderful to chat with you.
I want to want a run fun, stay inside a barricade,
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the dog. This is the son of avoid the song.
We'll do any sense of feel. I want to wear
all because he loves you, the friend, some kind of
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emomside when you need to heal, when you're all probabcast
so of the thing for the moment, it's stall it
because he loves you. Defend right now. I'm I'm open.
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I want to find I got hit the crown. I
want to dance. I nobody's all right, honey, what on
the and di bo down? Oh my heart, my head,
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the double clouds. It's a going out back now. Loves
just the fee. I'm kind of the morside when you
need the heat when girl brother again don't know a
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thing for the moment, it's cold because loves is a
friend right now, I'm of it. Oh my god, a
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friend of a mine. Some le a go, maybe alle
that and no, I'm gonna let that go because he
loves us to feel over. Day closes the field. Some
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cut down, look at polls, one of the big about
the money, Slow down and let some mod with you
long