March 1, 2024 • 7 mins
Marc Summers talks new off-broadway show and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mario on with Mario Lopez's.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Up You're all with Mario Lopez joining me now on
Zoom the Nickelodeon. I come my man, Mark Summers, Welcome
to the show. How you been?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
How have been?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Last time I saw you was in nineties cont of Connecticut.
That was insane, wasn't it? Wow?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That that was?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
That's that was?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I believe there's another one around the corner coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Huh yeah, I'll be doing my show. I won't be
able to go.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I was invited, not this time, but I'm doing another
one in Pittsburgh, I think coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I don't know. Do you do a lot of those?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I don't, just because I'm busy, but I try to
get to the big ones when I can. There are
a lot of fun it's nice to see those people.
So it's cool that that those sort of things kind
of get to resurface, and you know, you have to
meet all the folks that grew up with us right there.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, they all have a story to tell us, and
it's it's kind of fun to hear those stories.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Absolutely well, you've turned your memoir into an off Broadway
game show. Congrats on that. The life and Slimes of
Mark Summers. What what inspired this mashup?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well, you know what, I talked about doing this for years.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
We started at about ten years ago and you know,
did it Bloomington, Indiana and Mount Grettina, Pennsylvania. We were
doing it this summer in Buffalo, New York, and the
director of the Missus Doout Fire Tour came in they
were opening next to us, and said, why didn't do
the show in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I said, I have no idea how to do that.
He connected me with the.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Schubert organization, and you know, here we are a few
months later, and it's about there's a touch of double
there in there. As a matter of fact, we bring
people on stage and actually play the game a few times,
but it's more about overcoming obstacles and talking about that
throughout my life where I've had cancer, I've been in
a car accident where I broke every bone in my face,
and I had obsessive compulsive disorder where I was hosting
(01:44):
the messiest show on TV and trying to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So there's a lot of other stories to be told
in this show.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So it's more of a performance than a game show itself.
On stage.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
One hundred percent of the game show is maybe ten
minutes of an hour and a half performance. Got it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
And back in the day there were more than five
hundred episodes, which is a heck of run. Does any
single moment stand out to you?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, we had so many, you know, versions of
this to start off as double there, then it became
super sloppy double there, and it was the point where
we were doing it with the grown ups as well.
Were we let off the Fox network at eight o'clock
when they first started. So there's been many versions of
this thing, but I think the kid version was the best.
When the parents got involved and there were trips to
Europe and cars as prizes, they would get really upset
(02:28):
if they didn't win, and all the kids wanted to
do was get messy.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So there was a big difference.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Of course, what was the slime actually made of.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Back in the day, it was vanilla putting apple sauce,
a little oatmeal and green food colory, so.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You could eat it. Sounds delicious, you could eat it. See,
that was the deal.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
The insurance people wanted to make sure if the kids
got it in the mouth, they could eat it. Now
they have a company that makes slime exclusively for Nick.
And when you go into to shoot a show, you
can spend days trying to figure out the viscosity.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
There's a word I didn't know about. How thick?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
How thin do you wanted to drip? And all that
other kind of stuff. But I'm not sure it's edible
like it used to be.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I was going to say, but can you eat it?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And I read you struggled with OCD, So how did
you deal with all the slime?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well? You know what, that was an interesting part of
my life. You know.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I was thirty four years old, wanted to host a
TV show and it wasn't working out the way I
had hoped, and then doubledare happened when we did the auditions?
Obviously there was no mess And I walked into the
studio the first day and there was a slide with
whip cream and chocolate.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And I said, what's that? They said, well, that's the
obstacle course.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I said, explain that to me, and they said, whoever
wins that they can run eight obstacles in sixty seconds
or less. They went a bunch of prizes and my
first thought was, well, why would kids want to get
messy boy had no idea what I was talking about
the kids.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You know, you have to figure out if you waited
that long for something.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I wasn't going to let anything get in my way,
so I was able to cope with it for the
you know, thirty five.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Minutes that you're shooting the show. But I did have
an awkward time.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Often, when I was full of whip cream and slime
and other substances, I would start to take my clothes
off in front of the kids, and the Nickelodion Network
would say, could you do that in the dressing room.
I didn't like the feeling so much that I just
wanted to get out of it. So it was sort
of the ying and yang of wanting to live your
dreams but coping with OCD.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Wow, that's fascinating. Before the Double dare Days. You wrote
for Bob Barker on Truther Consequences.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I did the last year.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I started as a page at CBS Metemon Price is
Right and then got asked to do Truther Consequences the
last year he did it, and it was like going
to school as a guy who always wanted to host
TV shows, to sit there and watch him select contestants
and the way he treated him. And there's a line
that I used in the show that Bob taught me,
which is, if you make everybody else around you look good,
(04:46):
then you look good, absolutely and Barker. And Barker said
this to me early on. It's not about you make
the contestants the stars. And when I watch you on
your newest show on Game Show Network, little plug there,
do that quite well. You're the king of that, my friend.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Thank you
so much means a lot coming from you. What about
Burt Reynolds. Did y'all really up beat back in the day.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well that's another one.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I was saying, you know, you always want to get
on the tonight's show, and I wanted to be on
with Johnny, needless to say, didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
But I got out with Jay and for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know, you can look at this thing online and
it pops up like every ninety days when I guess
there's a slow news day.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But Burt got into a fight with me, and the
next thing I know, he got no fight with you
because of what you know. Well, here was the deal.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well, I was talking about what it is I do,
and he was sort of making fun of me, and
I leaned over to him and I said, you know, Burt,
I used to be on Wind Looser Draw all the time.
It was a show that his company was producing. And
he said, funny, I don't remember. And it just got
ugly and we were talking about being married, and I
leaned over to him and I said, and by the way,
I'm still married.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Because he was going to live divorce with Lonnie good
for you. Don't take any shit from Burt Renold.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I didn't care. I just want you know, look, I
started off with a stand up comic. I was gonna
let this guy heckle me and screw up, you know,
my six minutes of fame on the show.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And he took it personally. I know, pardon me, and
he took it personal. He took it personally and the
audist was laughing.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And originally we were going to do a pie thing
and at the time Dave was beaten to Jay every night,
and so Jay said, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So that people always said to me it was set up.
It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
There were pies backstage that Jay put a Kebasha on
right before so when he looks at the camera says
to the stage manager, get the pies. They came out,
and the next thing I know, I'm having a pie
fight on the Tonight show with Jay Leno.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And you know, the rest is history. It doesn't go away.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
In fact, when he was going through the divorce with Lonnie,
they wanted me to come and speak on Lonnie's behalf
about how crazy Burt was.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh my god, that's crazy that I didn't want to
any part of that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh that is wild. That's a great Hollywood zawyer right there. Oh, Mark,
so good to catch up with you man. Congratulations on everything.
Look forward to uh to checking out the op Broadway
game show. That's awesome. You can get tickets by the
way to the Life and Slimes of Mark Summers over
at on with Mario dot com.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Mark, thanks for hanging out.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Hope to get to see in person.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Good to see you against sir. Sir. Congratulations with all
your success. I'm a big fan. I appreciate it. Thank
you so much, my friend. Take care, Take care with
Mario Lopez
Mario on with Mario Lopez's.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Up You're all with Mario Lopez joining me now on
Zoom the Nickelodeon. I come my man, Mark Summers, Welcome
to the show. How you been?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
How have been?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Last time I saw you was in nineties cont of Connecticut.
That was insane, wasn't it? Wow?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That that was?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
That's that was?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I believe there's another one around the corner coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Huh yeah, I'll be doing my show. I won't be
able to go.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I was invited, not this time, but I'm doing another
one in Pittsburgh, I think coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I don't know. Do you do a lot of those?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I don't, just because I'm busy, but I try to
get to the big ones when I can. There are
a lot of fun it's nice to see those people.
So it's cool that that those sort of things kind
of get to resurface, and you know, you have to
meet all the folks that grew up with us right there.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, they all have a story to tell us, and
it's it's kind of fun to hear those stories.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Absolutely well, you've turned your memoir into an off Broadway
game show. Congrats on that. The life and Slimes of
Mark Summers. What what inspired this mashup?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well, you know what, I talked about doing this for years.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
We started at about ten years ago and you know,
did it Bloomington, Indiana and Mount Grettina, Pennsylvania. We were
doing it this summer in Buffalo, New York, and the
director of the Missus Doout Fire Tour came in they
were opening next to us, and said, why didn't do
the show in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I said, I have no idea how to do that.
He connected me with the.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Schubert organization, and you know, here we are a few
months later, and it's about there's a touch of double
there in there. As a matter of fact, we bring
people on stage and actually play the game a few times,
but it's more about overcoming obstacles and talking about that
throughout my life where I've had cancer, I've been in
a car accident where I broke every bone in my face,
and I had obsessive compulsive disorder where I was hosting
(01:44):
the messiest show on TV and trying to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So there's a lot of other stories to be told
in this show.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So it's more of a performance than a game show itself.
On stage.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
One hundred percent of the game show is maybe ten
minutes of an hour and a half performance. Got it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
And back in the day there were more than five
hundred episodes, which is a heck of run. Does any
single moment stand out to you?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, we had so many, you know, versions of
this to start off as double there, then it became
super sloppy double there, and it was the point where
we were doing it with the grown ups as well.
Were we let off the Fox network at eight o'clock
when they first started. So there's been many versions of
this thing, but I think the kid version was the best.
When the parents got involved and there were trips to
Europe and cars as prizes, they would get really upset
(02:28):
if they didn't win, and all the kids wanted to
do was get messy.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So there was a big difference.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Of course, what was the slime actually made of.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Back in the day, it was vanilla putting apple sauce,
a little oatmeal and green food colory, so.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You could eat it. Sounds delicious, you could eat it. See,
that was the deal.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
The insurance people wanted to make sure if the kids
got it in the mouth, they could eat it. Now
they have a company that makes slime exclusively for Nick.
And when you go into to shoot a show, you
can spend days trying to figure out the viscosity.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
There's a word I didn't know about. How thick?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
How thin do you wanted to drip? And all that
other kind of stuff. But I'm not sure it's edible
like it used to be.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I was going to say, but can you eat it?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And I read you struggled with OCD, So how did
you deal with all the slime?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well? You know what, that was an interesting part of
my life. You know.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I was thirty four years old, wanted to host a
TV show and it wasn't working out the way I
had hoped, and then doubledare happened when we did the auditions?
Obviously there was no mess And I walked into the
studio the first day and there was a slide with
whip cream and chocolate.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And I said, what's that? They said, well, that's the
obstacle course.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I said, explain that to me, and they said, whoever
wins that they can run eight obstacles in sixty seconds
or less. They went a bunch of prizes and my
first thought was, well, why would kids want to get
messy boy had no idea what I was talking about
the kids.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You know, you have to figure out if you waited
that long for something.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I wasn't going to let anything get in my way,
so I was able to cope with it for the
you know, thirty five.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Minutes that you're shooting the show. But I did have
an awkward time.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Often, when I was full of whip cream and slime
and other substances, I would start to take my clothes
off in front of the kids, and the Nickelodion Network
would say, could you do that in the dressing room.
I didn't like the feeling so much that I just
wanted to get out of it. So it was sort
of the ying and yang of wanting to live your
dreams but coping with OCD.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Wow, that's fascinating. Before the Double dare Days. You wrote
for Bob Barker on Truther Consequences.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I did the last year.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I started as a page at CBS Metemon Price is
Right and then got asked to do Truther Consequences the
last year he did it, and it was like going
to school as a guy who always wanted to host
TV shows, to sit there and watch him select contestants
and the way he treated him. And there's a line
that I used in the show that Bob taught me,
which is, if you make everybody else around you look good,
(04:46):
then you look good, absolutely and Barker. And Barker said
this to me early on. It's not about you make
the contestants the stars. And when I watch you on
your newest show on Game Show Network, little plug there,
do that quite well. You're the king of that, my friend.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Thank you
so much means a lot coming from you. What about
Burt Reynolds. Did y'all really up beat back in the day.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well that's another one.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I was saying, you know, you always want to get
on the tonight's show, and I wanted to be on
with Johnny, needless to say, didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
But I got out with Jay and for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know, you can look at this thing online and
it pops up like every ninety days when I guess
there's a slow news day.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But Burt got into a fight with me, and the
next thing I know, he got no fight with you
because of what you know. Well, here was the deal.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well, I was talking about what it is I do,
and he was sort of making fun of me, and
I leaned over to him and I said, you know, Burt,
I used to be on Wind Looser Draw all the time.
It was a show that his company was producing. And
he said, funny, I don't remember. And it just got
ugly and we were talking about being married, and I
leaned over to him and I said, and by the way,
I'm still married.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Because he was going to live divorce with Lonnie good
for you. Don't take any shit from Burt Renold.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I didn't care. I just want you know, look, I
started off with a stand up comic. I was gonna
let this guy heckle me and screw up, you know,
my six minutes of fame on the show.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And he took it personally. I know, pardon me, and
he took it personal. He took it personally and the
audist was laughing.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And originally we were going to do a pie thing
and at the time Dave was beaten to Jay every night,
and so Jay said, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So that people always said to me it was set up.
It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
There were pies backstage that Jay put a Kebasha on
right before so when he looks at the camera says
to the stage manager, get the pies. They came out,
and the next thing I know, I'm having a pie
fight on the Tonight show with Jay Leno.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And you know, the rest is history. It doesn't go away.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
In fact, when he was going through the divorce with Lonnie,
they wanted me to come and speak on Lonnie's behalf
about how crazy Burt was.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh my god, that's crazy that I didn't want to
any part of that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh that is wild. That's a great Hollywood zawyer right there. Oh, Mark,
so good to catch up with you man. Congratulations on everything.
Look forward to uh to checking out the op Broadway
game show. That's awesome. You can get tickets by the
way to the Life and Slimes of Mark Summers over
at on with Mario dot com.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Mark, thanks for hanging out.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Hope to get to see in person.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Good to see you against sir. Sir. Congratulations with all
your success. I'm a big fan. I appreciate it. Thank
you so much, my friend. Take care, Take care with
Mario Lopez
Host
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