July 11, 2025 • 27 mins
We talk about the only thing anyone cares about right now...Jeffrey Epstein. Was America duped? We dig into the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy theory that the Trump Administration just "debunked."
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is Red Pilled America. Hey, this is Patrick Crelci and.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Adriana Cortez and welcome to Red Pilled America's fam Boogie.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I have a confession, Sam, Bam, I have a confession.
We are not on the Epstein List. I am not
on the Epstein List, and your humble host, Adriana Cortez
is not on the Epstein List. But apparently there's a
lot of people on the Epstein List and we're gonna
(00:51):
find out sooner or later. You're listening to Red Pilled
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(01:11):
for a strong show. We have a strong show for
you here with fam Boogie. For those of you guys
have never heard famboogie, this is different than our audio
documentary series. We talk about culture. We talk about things
that are happening in culture, and oh my god, is
there a lot happening in culture right now, including Jeffrey Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein and Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And a little more Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We're going to we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna
talk about Trouble at X and grockgoing rogue. We're gonna
get into a new hoax that's going around by outrage
media about Superman that I think we're going to debunk.
But we're gonna start off here with Jeffrey Epstein. But first, Adriana,
(01:56):
how has your week been so far?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You know what, I'm having a pretty good week. I'm
still not one hundred percent because, as you guys know,
if you listen to the last fan boogie, we've been
empty nesting over here and it's been a really big
transition for me. But now I'm having the time of
my life.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, you have a partner that is making your time
of your life just incredible right now. I have been
putting so much time and energy to show you how
great our empty nest is going to be once it
actually kicks in, and apparently the verdict is in.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, you know what, You've been doing a very good job,
you guys. He's actually even been cooking for me occasionally. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's pretty good. Yeah, you've been doing a good job,
so you know what, I'm doing good. We had a
really nice Fourth of July holiday. We hope that you
all did as well. And things are good. We're adjusting
that things are good. But this Epstein thing, I have
(02:53):
to say, has been keeping me entertained. How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I'm good, I'm good. I'm getting used to the kind
of empty nest test right now. I feel like I'm
building a different relationship with my daughter right now, which
I'm really enjoying. So anyways, yeah, things are good, but
I just want to get right into this Epstein thing
because we have so much to talk about here. You
(03:17):
guys might have noticed, or maybe you haven't. We haven't
really talked much about the Epstein case. Initially, it was
kind of like, Okay, that's something that everybody on the
right is talking about, like you don't need one more
voice in it. And then as it started to kind
of build and I'm to going back way back to
(03:39):
twenty like fifteen, twenty sixteen or so, kind of started
to fast forward. We only really talked about it to
kind of make fun of the people that we're talking
about it, because it seemed very early on that there
was never going to be really any answers there. It
felt to me kind of a little bit hoaxy. But
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just to give you first's start with a little bit
of a background, because you know, we're storytellers and we
like telling stories here, so I want to give a
little bit of background on this story. Jeffrey Epstein for
those of you that don't know, I mean, I'm sure
you guys have all heard about the Epstein List and
what have you. He was born in nineteen fifty three
in Brooklyn, attended Cooper Union and then later went on
to NYU. He did not get a degree there, but
(04:23):
he ended up having a career as a math and
physics teacher at a school in Manhattan called to the
Dalton School. But in the nineteen eighties he apparently transitioned
into finance. He was hired by bear Stearns despite lacking
formal credentials, but he apparently did pretty well. I know
there's a lot of people that say that his money
(04:44):
is kind of murky, but I think there's enough out
there to see that he made his money in finance.
He started a financial firm called Jay Epstein and Company. Reportedly,
he would only work with clients that were a billion plus.
That was his claim. His key client was Les Wexner,
who was the founder of L Brand's, owner of Victoria's Secret.
(05:06):
This Les Wexner gave Epstein the power of attorney, which
is kind of a big deal. And apparently this is
how he kind of started amassing his wealth. He bought
a private island in the US Virgin Islands. I should
say he got a mansion in Manhattan. He has homes
in Paris, Palm Beach, and New Mexico. In round two
(05:28):
thousand and five, he started getting investigated for sexually abusing
underage girls. And I know that term sometimes gets misused.
I think what he was charged with at that time was,
you know, under age teenagers. It wasn't like children.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's not like a seven year old or six year older.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It was like, you know, I want to say, like
anywhere from you know, it was underage, Yes, And he
reached a controversial plea deal. He pleaded guilty to two
state charges, soliciting prostitution and soliciting a miner. He served
their teen months in a work release program. He had
some run ins with Trump. This was the thing that
(06:09):
kind of made Epstein kind of this perfect foil for
political people. Was that he ran in elite circles. You're
making big money, you own an island, you have multiple properties,
you're in Palm Beach, you're in Manhattan, and you have money,
You're going to be around big people. So he's around Trump.
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He's around like all the big people in Hollywood. There's
pictures of Julane Maxwell, his fixer apparently, or his assistant
with Elon Musk. So I mean kind of was spread
wide all over the place in elite circles. But Trump
and him had a falling out at one point. I
think Trump started hearing about his escapades with pre adult girls,
(06:53):
and they had a falling out and they kind of
went their separate ways, and it was pretty public at
that time, and Trump since then I said a lot
about that. He was arrested again in twenty nineteen for
federal sex trafficking charges involving dozens of miners. So that
was in July twenty nineteen. In August, so about a
(07:14):
month later or so, he's found dead in the Manhattan jail.
Cell ruled a suicide by hanging, and this is where
the plot kind of thickened for much of the right.
His death sparked widespread controversy due to irregularities at the
jail and high profile individuals allegedly connected to him. So
(07:35):
this is kind of the background of him. And when
the Trump team got into the White House, you had
Pam Bondy kind of say some very unfortunate things early
on in her tenure. Here is Pambondy kind of talking
about these Epstein files.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
A lot of people are wondering, because you said last
week that you have the Epstein files on your desk,
is when can we see them? And what taking so
long to release them?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I do, Jesse, there are well over this will make
you sick, two hundred victims, over two hundred and fifty actually,
so we have to make sure that their identity is
protected and their personal information. Other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse,
breaking news. Right now, you're going to see some Epstein
(08:27):
information being released by my office.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well, kind are we going to see who was on
the flights? Are we going to see any evidence from
what he recorded? Because he had all of his homes
wired with recording devices.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
What you're going to see, hopefully tomorrow, is a lot
of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information,
but pretty sick what that man did.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So she doesn't really get into much specifics there. She
doesn't say, you know, whether these victims are underage victims.
She doesn't say much about the victims all.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
She does say that there's two hundred and fifty Yeah,
so out of victims.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And she wasn't the only one you had. Alina Haber,
who is Trump's wes, Trump's personal lawyer. I believe now
she's an Attorney general of maybe New Jersey, something like that.
Here she is going on the Pierce Morgan Show in
February talking about Jeffrey Epstein list names that are going
(09:29):
to be coming.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Out, Jeffrey Epstein files we're told are to be imminently unleashed,
and already we saw the Attorney General Pam BONDI say
that it's the scale of what happened is far worse
than anyone realized, well over two hundred maybe two hundred
and fifty victims, and that we're going to get information
either later today or tomorrow from these files. What can
(09:52):
you tell me about that?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I believe it will be today. I was just with
I saw Pam and Cash in the White House just
before coming on your show, and I can tell you
that I haven't been privy to it yet, but I
know it is coming out. They will be taking portions
of it. We have to be patient. And I said
this last night at a dinner with some media, and
(10:16):
I said, I think America needs to remember one thing.
We are going to be promises made, promises kept. But
when you're dealing with victims. And by the way, this
is a perfect example of a case that was vetted,
that went through trial, that had testimony, and was prosecuted
the right way. And I don't preemptively attack. That's just
not the way I operate. But in this case, in
(10:38):
Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing. We have flight logs,
we have information, names that will come out.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Is it going to be shocking?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I don't see how it's not shocking that there were
so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and
not been held accountable. And I really believe that now
with Cash and Pam will be accountability.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So there you have it. And as I was watching this,
this was on February, end of February, I thought she's
so full of shit. And this is why I thought
she was so full of shit, is because she was
just you know, I want to say, days or maybe
weeks before this, praising Andrew Tate, okay, who is on
(11:25):
tape saying some pretty crazy things about women and you know,
actually smacking women and you know, selling a pimp course
on how to pimp women. She says, oh, you know,
you're being railroaded like Donald Trump. So here she is now,
you know, within weeks of that or days of that,
(11:47):
talking about Jeffrey Epstein and all of the craziness that's
going to come out. This same day that she's talking,
three ringed binders are handed out to influencers right around
this time, the same day. It turns out there was
nothing new in the binders. All that stuff was public
information that had been out for quite some time. Well,
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fast forward to earlier this week, and you have the
Trump team doing a complete one to eighty. They started
off first with Cash Bateel and Dan Bongino coming forward,
getting ready to prime the public. So this was not
this week. This was within the last couple of weeks,
Cash Betel and Dan Bongino talking about Epstein's now suicide.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
You said, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it. Well,
I mean listen, they have a right to their opinion.
But as someone who has worked as a public defender,
as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's
been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing,
you know a suicide when you see one, and that's.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
What that was. They killed himself.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Again, you want me to get I've seen the whole
He killed himself.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
So this comes out. This was like I said a
little while ago, and everyone's like, WHOA wait a minute here,
this is not at all what we have been. What
you guys have told us. You know what Dan Bongino
told us about during his podcast days, what Cash Betel
told us about before he entered into the FBI. Well,
(13:26):
then the real story comes out. I think it was
Axios that told the story first. A President Trump's Justice
Department and FBI have concluded they have no evidence that
convicted sex offender and disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed powerful figures,
kept a client list, or was murdered, according to a
memo detailing the findings obtained by Axios. The administration is
(13:48):
releasing a video in both raw and enhanced versions that
it says indicates no one entered the area of the
Manhattan prison where Epstein was held the night he died
in twenty nineteen. The video supports medical examiners finding that
IPSI died by suicide. The two page memo claims.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
So.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
MAGA goes absolutely bonkers on this. The MAGA influencers out there,
they go absolutely bonkers on this. Everybody that had been
kind of covering this story for I don't know what
is it now, almost ten years. They thought that the
day of reckoning was finally going to be here, that
(14:29):
once the Trump administration entered the White House, that all
would be told you're going to start seeing all the
pedos in Hollywood, all the pedos Democrats. You're going to
find all this evidence on Hillary and Bill Clinton and
on Bill Gates. And now the Trump administration is saying, Nope,
there's no evidence of blackmail. There's no evidence of this
(14:53):
Ebstein list that everybody has been talking about. What does
this all say? What's our take on this? We're going
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Speaker 1 (16:10):
So let's talk a little bit about our take on
the Epstein thing and I'll let you kind of jump
off my Adriana, but I want to give my opinion first,
and you tell me how you think about this. What
I think was is this. I think the guy obviously
was a sexual degenerate. Sounds like he liked girl like
women young. But I think it's pretty clear that he
(16:31):
was a sexual degenerate. It appears to me that he
was a party pimp. He brought prostitutes to parties. Whether
there was drugs and those kinds of things related, there
possibly was, But the feeling that I get from this
and everything that I have seen, is that he was
a party pimp. People liked to be around him. There
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was probably prostitutes around. It was like your standard disgusting
degenerate lifestyle, but not this crazy sex trafficking ring that
everybody was strangely kind of hoping for. If I'm being honest,
people should actually be thankful that there wasn't children, sex
(17:15):
slaves tied up all over the place, but it's almost
like they wanted to find them. I think that what
you're seeing here is that you see this happen a
lot with these kinds of cases. They become politically weaponized,
and here's a guy Jeffrey Epstein, that is a degenerate
that was obviously busted for having sex with underage with miners.
(17:38):
He's around all of these elites. He's around, like I
said earlier, the Clinton's, the Gates. You name the elite
person and the guy's either pictured with them or somehow
is it connected to them. So he's perfect to be
used as this foil to try to take out and
politically attack your opponent. But I'd say that ultimately that
(18:01):
just saying that there's prosps around and that are people
who are doing drugs, it's not enough. And what we've
done a full series on this called coninc It is
not salacious enough to say that there are just prostitutes around.
You have to say that there are kids and that
they are child's sex slaves, and that they are it's
(18:23):
a child's sex slave ring, and it ties in Hollywood,
and it ties in Tom Hanks, and it ties in
you know, all of these elites and Bill Gates, and
they're all in blackmail and oh you know, the Masade
is using them and they have them all taped and
they're going to be you know, if they don't side
with this Democrat cause or Israel or what have you,
it's going to be used against them when in actuality,
(18:46):
what you're seeing here is really just kind of your
standard variety degenerate, but that doesn't sell in today's kind
of media landscape.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I mean, I feel like it's a tale as old
as time. Right, it's a bunch of dirty old men,
and also a bunch of young women and teenage girls
possibly who are looking to get paid get paid for
some sexual acts. And really, what this story shows more
than anything, and this is something that has really become
(19:16):
a trend on the right, is that these kinds of
stories are weaponized against people so that they can turn
against the Democrat Party. Yes, and that has worked very
very well. And I know that because I at one
point was sucked in to such a story. Yeah, and
I sucked others in and they were Democrats at the time,
(19:37):
and guess what they are now Republican. But I got
off that train at the first stop.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It's likely it's a tale as old as time in that,
you know. I mean, we've seen this baby thing used
before in the past. It helped us get involved in
the Iraq War when you had I believe there was
a child of a Katari diplomat that said Iraq was
leaving babies to die in incubators. I mean, this is
a standard thing that is used. We've done a full
(20:05):
story about how this was done in the late eighteen
hundreds by a group that was trying to raise the
age of consent in England. And you know, they've created
and fabricated a child sex trafficking ring and it's been
used more and more and more. And I've said this before,
this child sex trafficking issue is Conservative's global warming issue.
(20:31):
It's their global warming topic. I'm not saying it doesn't happen,
but I'm saying that it doesn't happen anywhere near as
much as all of these social media conservative influencers try
to pitch to the public. And every time one of
these issues come time and time again, it gets debunked. Okay,
this story, this Jeffrey Epstein story, is getting debunked by
(20:56):
Trump's and the MAGA movement, by all of the Trump
followers that ended up going into all these people that
everybody trusted before a Trump came into office. They're going
into Trump's administration. It's being debunked by these people, and
everyone's saying, oh, no, they're obviously being threatened and their
families are being threatened, and who's bought them off and
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what have you. But every time, every time, it gets debunked.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay, but what's confusing and disheartening is that a lot
of those same people in the Maga administration now with Trump,
they used this story. They used it against the people.
They did. They used it to gain favor and to
gain eyeballs. They absolutely did, and now they're like, oh,
(21:42):
it's a nothing burger. So it's confusing and it's to dishearten.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well's let's take a walk down memory lane on now
and talk a little bit about how like this kind
of progressed. I remember this back in the year.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I remember this back in the day, and I can
tell you exactly where it started. This started with Pizzagate.
This started way back when when the WikiLeaks files were
dropped and Pizzagate became a thing. And I am embarrassed
to admit that I definitely got sucked into the Pizzagate
and they were talking in code and the Podestas had
(22:18):
all this weird art, and I know a lot of
you guys know what I'm talking about, but I feel
like it was that moment that opened the floodgates to
this child sex trafficking on the right, and people were horrified.
This is the issue that pulled my mother from the
left to the right, by the way, so that's.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
How it's strucked. I didn't get sucked into it. I
was never sucked into the Pizzagate thing. I want to
make that clear here right now.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
He was a little sucked in.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I was never sucked into it. I thought that it
was kind of strange. They were talking in code. They
could have been talking about it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
They could have been talking about anything.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Prostitution, they could have been talking about finances that they
had to who knows what they were talking about, but
it was all seemed like smoke and mirrors. And listen,
you're talking to two people that if Hollywood would be
exposed for like some crazy, horrible crime. Okay, we literally
(23:13):
launched this show on basically telling the story of finding
this guy getting in bed with other people's kids, and
the Hollywood these Hollywood elites turning against us because they
would rather side with somebody like that than a conservative
or a Trump supporter. Okay, So we have been around
this and we've gotten our scalps on this kind of thing,
(23:34):
been behind enemy lines, fighting against kind of the sexualization
of kids. All right, But that said, this thing right
off from the get go, it sounded strange.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
It sounded strange. So from Pizzagate it transitioned to Q. Yes, okay,
we never went down the QUE went down the que.
We never went down the Q rabbit hole. At that
then we knew it. We were like, this is not
the way. These are people using people on the right
to brainwash them or whatever it is. But this is malarchy.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And in particular, they are targeting Christians because Christians are
a very trusting community and they are also very protective
of kids, so they become a perfect target for these
kinds of stories. And I want to repeat this again
so you guys don't get me mixed up here. Our
kids sexually abused. Does those kinds of things happen, Yes,
(24:30):
of course, those kinds of things happen. No one's saying
that they don't. But they don't happen on an industrialized level.
Because every time these kinds of things, and we've dug
into it multiple times, every time they come forward, it
always either gets debunked or you know, like in this case,
basically We've looked into this and it's not true. There's
(24:51):
no evidence that backs this up.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
We know all the stats that are out there. Believe us,
we have looked into them all. You guys, it is
not happening the way that it's showing you what's happening
on Sound of Free, as you know, that's another rabbit
hole we went down.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well, and the thing is is those numbers are being
released by the UN So it's the same people that
bring you global warming bring you this issue. And why
because there's money associated with it. There's money that goes
out to these countries that claim that they have these victims.
There's money to be had in rehab centers, there's money
to be had in hunting these people down, so there
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is money to be made into this. Well, it kind
of elevated from there. It went from Q and then
it went on to the Epstein List, and of course
it started to connect Hollywood and all these elites, and
then you know, it transitioned into a way to monetize
this movement, which was the Sound of Freedom, in our opinion,
was a scam. And there was a ton of information
(25:50):
that we debunked that was in that movie, and that
was in Tim Balor's origin story, but it's been monetized
through that. So I know this might upset a lot
of you guys are out there, but the facts now
are on our side. We are the ones that have
been talking about this issue and saying, don't get caught
up in the outrage of this, follow the facts, dig
(26:12):
down and deep. The reason why you see so many influencers,
conservative influencers basically going haywire on this topic is because
they have invested so much of their audience's time and
so much of their energy and credibility on this topic.
You had all of these influencers go to the White House,
they've been giving three ring binders by Pam Bondi. They
(26:34):
leave and they all walk out the side of the
White House and they're holding up these binders like, look,
this is the power of influencers and the power of
social media, and we're going to root out and find
all of these criminals. They were so invested in this
conspiracy theory that they can't walk away from it now.
And they won't.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
No, they won't. You know, it's been audience capture for
them and they duped everybody, yes, and now they're like, oh, well,
you know, we were tricked. We went to the White
House and we didn't know that. We know, we're going
to get these binders. And then we got these binders
and she said, you know, Pam BONDI said there was
stuff in them, and then there wasn't. And you know,
we're upset as well. We want answers. You know what
I call bullshit?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I got a.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Bullshit on this.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
We're going to get into more about this. I want
to basically give you my take on what actually happened here. Okay,
why did the Trump administration come out with this shocking
to many of the conservative influencers. Conclusion on the Jeffrey
Epstein case. We're going to get into that in part two.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Grab your coffee, grab your wine, and meet us there.
This is Red Pilled America. Hey, this is Patrick Crelci and.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Adriana Cortez and welcome to Red Pilled America's fam Boogie.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I have a confession, Sam, Bam, I have a confession.
We are not on the Epstein List. I am not
on the Epstein List, and your humble host, Adriana Cortez
is not on the Epstein List. But apparently there's a
lot of people on the Epstein List and we're gonna
(00:51):
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there a lot happening in culture right now, including Jeffrey Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein and Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And a little more Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We're going to we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna
talk about Trouble at X and grockgoing rogue. We're gonna
get into a new hoax that's going around by outrage
media about Superman that I think we're going to debunk.
But we're gonna start off here with Jeffrey Epstein. But first, Adriana,
(01:56):
how has your week been so far?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You know what, I'm having a pretty good week. I'm
still not one hundred percent because, as you guys know,
if you listen to the last fan boogie, we've been
empty nesting over here and it's been a really big
transition for me. But now I'm having the time of
my life.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, you have a partner that is making your time
of your life just incredible right now. I have been
putting so much time and energy to show you how
great our empty nest is going to be once it
actually kicks in, and apparently the verdict is in.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, you know what, You've been doing a very good job,
you guys. He's actually even been cooking for me occasionally. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's pretty good. Yeah, you've been doing a good job,
so you know what, I'm doing good. We had a
really nice Fourth of July holiday. We hope that you
all did as well. And things are good. We're adjusting
that things are good. But this Epstein thing, I have
(02:53):
to say, has been keeping me entertained. How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I'm good, I'm good. I'm getting used to the kind
of empty nest test right now. I feel like I'm
building a different relationship with my daughter right now, which
I'm really enjoying. So anyways, yeah, things are good, but
I just want to get right into this Epstein thing
because we have so much to talk about here. You
(03:17):
guys might have noticed, or maybe you haven't. We haven't
really talked much about the Epstein case. Initially, it was
kind of like, Okay, that's something that everybody on the
right is talking about, like you don't need one more
voice in it. And then as it started to kind
of build and I'm to going back way back to
(03:39):
twenty like fifteen, twenty sixteen or so, kind of started
to fast forward. We only really talked about it to
kind of make fun of the people that we're talking
about it, because it seemed very early on that there
was never going to be really any answers there. It
felt to me kind of a little bit hoaxy. But
(04:00):
just to give you first's start with a little bit
of a background, because you know, we're storytellers and we
like telling stories here, so I want to give a
little bit of background on this story. Jeffrey Epstein for
those of you that don't know, I mean, I'm sure
you guys have all heard about the Epstein List and
what have you. He was born in nineteen fifty three
in Brooklyn, attended Cooper Union and then later went on
to NYU. He did not get a degree there, but
(04:23):
he ended up having a career as a math and
physics teacher at a school in Manhattan called to the
Dalton School. But in the nineteen eighties he apparently transitioned
into finance. He was hired by bear Stearns despite lacking
formal credentials, but he apparently did pretty well. I know
there's a lot of people that say that his money
(04:44):
is kind of murky, but I think there's enough out
there to see that he made his money in finance.
He started a financial firm called Jay Epstein and Company. Reportedly,
he would only work with clients that were a billion plus.
That was his claim. His key client was Les Wexner,
who was the founder of L Brand's, owner of Victoria's Secret.
(05:06):
This Les Wexner gave Epstein the power of attorney, which
is kind of a big deal. And apparently this is
how he kind of started amassing his wealth. He bought
a private island in the US Virgin Islands. I should
say he got a mansion in Manhattan. He has homes
in Paris, Palm Beach, and New Mexico. In round two
(05:28):
thousand and five, he started getting investigated for sexually abusing
underage girls. And I know that term sometimes gets misused.
I think what he was charged with at that time was,
you know, under age teenagers. It wasn't like children.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's not like a seven year old or six year older.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It was like, you know, I want to say, like
anywhere from you know, it was underage, Yes, And he
reached a controversial plea deal. He pleaded guilty to two
state charges, soliciting prostitution and soliciting a miner. He served
their teen months in a work release program. He had
some run ins with Trump. This was the thing that
(06:09):
kind of made Epstein kind of this perfect foil for
political people. Was that he ran in elite circles. You're
making big money, you own an island, you have multiple properties,
you're in Palm Beach, you're in Manhattan, and you have money,
You're going to be around big people. So he's around Trump.
(06:32):
He's around like all the big people in Hollywood. There's
pictures of Julane Maxwell, his fixer apparently, or his assistant
with Elon Musk. So I mean kind of was spread
wide all over the place in elite circles. But Trump
and him had a falling out at one point. I
think Trump started hearing about his escapades with pre adult girls,
(06:53):
and they had a falling out and they kind of
went their separate ways, and it was pretty public at
that time, and Trump since then I said a lot
about that. He was arrested again in twenty nineteen for
federal sex trafficking charges involving dozens of miners. So that
was in July twenty nineteen. In August, so about a
(07:14):
month later or so, he's found dead in the Manhattan jail.
Cell ruled a suicide by hanging, and this is where
the plot kind of thickened for much of the right.
His death sparked widespread controversy due to irregularities at the
jail and high profile individuals allegedly connected to him. So
(07:35):
this is kind of the background of him. And when
the Trump team got into the White House, you had
Pam Bondy kind of say some very unfortunate things early
on in her tenure. Here is Pambondy kind of talking
about these Epstein files.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
A lot of people are wondering, because you said last
week that you have the Epstein files on your desk,
is when can we see them? And what taking so
long to release them?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I do, Jesse, there are well over this will make
you sick, two hundred victims, over two hundred and fifty actually,
so we have to make sure that their identity is
protected and their personal information. Other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse,
breaking news. Right now, you're going to see some Epstein
(08:27):
information being released by my office.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well, kind are we going to see who was on
the flights? Are we going to see any evidence from
what he recorded? Because he had all of his homes
wired with recording devices.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
What you're going to see, hopefully tomorrow, is a lot
of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information,
but pretty sick what that man did.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So she doesn't really get into much specifics there. She
doesn't say, you know, whether these victims are underage victims.
She doesn't say much about the victims all.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
She does say that there's two hundred and fifty Yeah,
so out of victims.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And she wasn't the only one you had. Alina Haber,
who is Trump's wes, Trump's personal lawyer. I believe now
she's an Attorney general of maybe New Jersey, something like that.
Here she is going on the Pierce Morgan Show in
February talking about Jeffrey Epstein list names that are going
(09:29):
to be coming.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Out, Jeffrey Epstein files we're told are to be imminently unleashed,
and already we saw the Attorney General Pam BONDI say
that it's the scale of what happened is far worse
than anyone realized, well over two hundred maybe two hundred
and fifty victims, and that we're going to get information
either later today or tomorrow from these files. What can
(09:52):
you tell me about that?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I believe it will be today. I was just with
I saw Pam and Cash in the White House just
before coming on your show, and I can tell you
that I haven't been privy to it yet, but I
know it is coming out. They will be taking portions
of it. We have to be patient. And I said
this last night at a dinner with some media, and
(10:16):
I said, I think America needs to remember one thing.
We are going to be promises made, promises kept. But
when you're dealing with victims. And by the way, this
is a perfect example of a case that was vetted,
that went through trial, that had testimony, and was prosecuted
the right way. And I don't preemptively attack. That's just
not the way I operate. But in this case, in
(10:38):
Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing. We have flight logs,
we have information, names that will come out.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Is it going to be shocking?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I don't see how it's not shocking that there were
so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and
not been held accountable. And I really believe that now
with Cash and Pam will be accountability.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So there you have it. And as I was watching this,
this was on February, end of February, I thought she's
so full of shit. And this is why I thought
she was so full of shit, is because she was
just you know, I want to say, days or maybe
weeks before this, praising Andrew Tate, okay, who is on
(11:25):
tape saying some pretty crazy things about women and you know,
actually smacking women and you know, selling a pimp course
on how to pimp women. She says, oh, you know,
you're being railroaded like Donald Trump. So here she is now,
you know, within weeks of that or days of that,
(11:47):
talking about Jeffrey Epstein and all of the craziness that's
going to come out. This same day that she's talking,
three ringed binders are handed out to influencers right around
this time, the same day. It turns out there was
nothing new in the binders. All that stuff was public
information that had been out for quite some time. Well,
(12:09):
fast forward to earlier this week, and you have the
Trump team doing a complete one to eighty. They started
off first with Cash Bateel and Dan Bongino coming forward,
getting ready to prime the public. So this was not
this week. This was within the last couple of weeks,
Cash Betel and Dan Bongino talking about Epstein's now suicide.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
You said, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it. Well,
I mean listen, they have a right to their opinion.
But as someone who has worked as a public defender,
as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's
been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing,
you know a suicide when you see one, and that's.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
What that was. They killed himself.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Again, you want me to get I've seen the whole
He killed himself.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
So this comes out. This was like I said a
little while ago, and everyone's like, WHOA wait a minute here,
this is not at all what we have been. What
you guys have told us. You know what Dan Bongino
told us about during his podcast days, what Cash Betel
told us about before he entered into the FBI. Well,
(13:26):
then the real story comes out. I think it was
Axios that told the story first. A President Trump's Justice
Department and FBI have concluded they have no evidence that
convicted sex offender and disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed powerful figures,
kept a client list, or was murdered, according to a
memo detailing the findings obtained by Axios. The administration is
(13:48):
releasing a video in both raw and enhanced versions that
it says indicates no one entered the area of the
Manhattan prison where Epstein was held the night he died
in twenty nineteen. The video supports medical examiners finding that
IPSI died by suicide. The two page memo claims.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
So.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
MAGA goes absolutely bonkers on this. The MAGA influencers out there,
they go absolutely bonkers on this. Everybody that had been
kind of covering this story for I don't know what
is it now, almost ten years. They thought that the
day of reckoning was finally going to be here, that
(14:29):
once the Trump administration entered the White House, that all
would be told you're going to start seeing all the
pedos in Hollywood, all the pedos Democrats. You're going to
find all this evidence on Hillary and Bill Clinton and
on Bill Gates. And now the Trump administration is saying, Nope,
there's no evidence of blackmail. There's no evidence of this
(14:53):
Ebstein list that everybody has been talking about. What does
this all say? What's our take on this? We're going
to get to that right after the break. You're listening
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Speaker 1 (16:10):
So let's talk a little bit about our take on
the Epstein thing and I'll let you kind of jump
off my Adriana, but I want to give my opinion first,
and you tell me how you think about this. What
I think was is this. I think the guy obviously
was a sexual degenerate. Sounds like he liked girl like
women young. But I think it's pretty clear that he
(16:31):
was a sexual degenerate. It appears to me that he
was a party pimp. He brought prostitutes to parties. Whether
there was drugs and those kinds of things related, there
possibly was, But the feeling that I get from this
and everything that I have seen, is that he was
a party pimp. People liked to be around him. There
(16:53):
was probably prostitutes around. It was like your standard disgusting
degenerate lifestyle, but not this crazy sex trafficking ring that
everybody was strangely kind of hoping for. If I'm being honest,
people should actually be thankful that there wasn't children, sex
(17:15):
slaves tied up all over the place, but it's almost
like they wanted to find them. I think that what
you're seeing here is that you see this happen a
lot with these kinds of cases. They become politically weaponized,
and here's a guy Jeffrey Epstein, that is a degenerate
that was obviously busted for having sex with underage with miners.
(17:38):
He's around all of these elites. He's around, like I
said earlier, the Clinton's, the Gates. You name the elite
person and the guy's either pictured with them or somehow
is it connected to them. So he's perfect to be
used as this foil to try to take out and
politically attack your opponent. But I'd say that ultimately that
(18:01):
just saying that there's prosps around and that are people
who are doing drugs, it's not enough. And what we've
done a full series on this called coninc It is
not salacious enough to say that there are just prostitutes around.
You have to say that there are kids and that
they are child's sex slaves, and that they are it's
(18:23):
a child's sex slave ring, and it ties in Hollywood,
and it ties in Tom Hanks, and it ties in
you know, all of these elites and Bill Gates, and
they're all in blackmail and oh you know, the Masade
is using them and they have them all taped and
they're going to be you know, if they don't side
with this Democrat cause or Israel or what have you,
it's going to be used against them when in actuality,
(18:46):
what you're seeing here is really just kind of your
standard variety degenerate, but that doesn't sell in today's kind
of media landscape.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I mean, I feel like it's a tale as old
as time. Right, it's a bunch of dirty old men,
and also a bunch of young women and teenage girls
possibly who are looking to get paid get paid for
some sexual acts. And really, what this story shows more
than anything, and this is something that has really become
(19:16):
a trend on the right, is that these kinds of
stories are weaponized against people so that they can turn
against the Democrat Party. Yes, and that has worked very
very well. And I know that because I at one
point was sucked in to such a story. Yeah, and
I sucked others in and they were Democrats at the time,
(19:37):
and guess what they are now Republican. But I got
off that train at the first stop.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It's likely it's a tale as old as time in that,
you know. I mean, we've seen this baby thing used
before in the past. It helped us get involved in
the Iraq War when you had I believe there was
a child of a Katari diplomat that said Iraq was
leaving babies to die in incubators. I mean, this is
a standard thing that is used. We've done a full
(20:05):
story about how this was done in the late eighteen
hundreds by a group that was trying to raise the
age of consent in England. And you know, they've created
and fabricated a child sex trafficking ring and it's been
used more and more and more. And I've said this before,
this child sex trafficking issue is Conservative's global warming issue.
(20:31):
It's their global warming topic. I'm not saying it doesn't happen,
but I'm saying that it doesn't happen anywhere near as
much as all of these social media conservative influencers try
to pitch to the public. And every time one of
these issues come time and time again, it gets debunked. Okay,
this story, this Jeffrey Epstein story, is getting debunked by
(20:56):
Trump's and the MAGA movement, by all of the Trump
followers that ended up going into all these people that
everybody trusted before a Trump came into office. They're going
into Trump's administration. It's being debunked by these people, and
everyone's saying, oh, no, they're obviously being threatened and their
families are being threatened, and who's bought them off and
(21:19):
what have you. But every time, every time, it gets debunked.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay, but what's confusing and disheartening is that a lot
of those same people in the Maga administration now with Trump,
they used this story. They used it against the people.
They did. They used it to gain favor and to
gain eyeballs. They absolutely did, and now they're like, oh,
(21:42):
it's a nothing burger. So it's confusing and it's to dishearten.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well's let's take a walk down memory lane on now
and talk a little bit about how like this kind
of progressed. I remember this back in the year.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I remember this back in the day, and I can
tell you exactly where it started. This started with Pizzagate.
This started way back when when the WikiLeaks files were
dropped and Pizzagate became a thing. And I am embarrassed
to admit that I definitely got sucked into the Pizzagate
and they were talking in code and the Podestas had
(22:18):
all this weird art, and I know a lot of
you guys know what I'm talking about, but I feel
like it was that moment that opened the floodgates to
this child sex trafficking on the right, and people were horrified.
This is the issue that pulled my mother from the
left to the right, by the way, so that's.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
How it's strucked. I didn't get sucked into it. I
was never sucked into the Pizzagate thing. I want to
make that clear here right now.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
He was a little sucked in.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I was never sucked into it. I thought that it
was kind of strange. They were talking in code. They
could have been talking about it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
They could have been talking about anything.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Prostitution, they could have been talking about finances that they
had to who knows what they were talking about, but
it was all seemed like smoke and mirrors. And listen,
you're talking to two people that if Hollywood would be
exposed for like some crazy, horrible crime. Okay, we literally
(23:13):
launched this show on basically telling the story of finding
this guy getting in bed with other people's kids, and
the Hollywood these Hollywood elites turning against us because they
would rather side with somebody like that than a conservative
or a Trump supporter. Okay, So we have been around
this and we've gotten our scalps on this kind of thing,
(23:34):
been behind enemy lines, fighting against kind of the sexualization
of kids. All right, But that said, this thing right
off from the get go, it sounded strange.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
It sounded strange. So from Pizzagate it transitioned to Q. Yes, okay,
we never went down the QUE went down the que.
We never went down the Q rabbit hole. At that
then we knew it. We were like, this is not
the way. These are people using people on the right
to brainwash them or whatever it is. But this is malarchy.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And in particular, they are targeting Christians because Christians are
a very trusting community and they are also very protective
of kids, so they become a perfect target for these
kinds of stories. And I want to repeat this again
so you guys don't get me mixed up here. Our
kids sexually abused. Does those kinds of things happen, Yes,
(24:30):
of course, those kinds of things happen. No one's saying
that they don't. But they don't happen on an industrialized level.
Because every time these kinds of things, and we've dug
into it multiple times, every time they come forward, it
always either gets debunked or you know, like in this case,
basically We've looked into this and it's not true. There's
(24:51):
no evidence that backs this up.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
We know all the stats that are out there. Believe us,
we have looked into them all. You guys, it is
not happening the way that it's showing you what's happening
on Sound of Free, as you know, that's another rabbit
hole we went down.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well, and the thing is is those numbers are being
released by the UN So it's the same people that
bring you global warming bring you this issue. And why
because there's money associated with it. There's money that goes
out to these countries that claim that they have these victims.
There's money to be had in rehab centers, there's money
to be had in hunting these people down, so there
(25:26):
is money to be made into this. Well, it kind
of elevated from there. It went from Q and then
it went on to the Epstein List, and of course
it started to connect Hollywood and all these elites, and
then you know, it transitioned into a way to monetize
this movement, which was the Sound of Freedom, in our opinion,
was a scam. And there was a ton of information
(25:50):
that we debunked that was in that movie, and that
was in Tim Balor's origin story, but it's been monetized
through that. So I know this might upset a lot
of you guys are out there, but the facts now
are on our side. We are the ones that have
been talking about this issue and saying, don't get caught
up in the outrage of this, follow the facts, dig
(26:12):
down and deep. The reason why you see so many influencers,
conservative influencers basically going haywire on this topic is because
they have invested so much of their audience's time and
so much of their energy and credibility on this topic.
You had all of these influencers go to the White House,
they've been giving three ring binders by Pam Bondi. They
(26:34):
leave and they all walk out the side of the
White House and they're holding up these binders like, look,
this is the power of influencers and the power of
social media, and we're going to root out and find
all of these criminals. They were so invested in this
conspiracy theory that they can't walk away from it now.
And they won't.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
No, they won't. You know, it's been audience capture for
them and they duped everybody, yes, and now they're like, oh, well,
you know, we were tricked. We went to the White
House and we didn't know that. We know, we're going
to get these binders. And then we got these binders
and she said, you know, Pam BONDI said there was
stuff in them, and then there wasn't. And you know,
we're upset as well. We want answers. You know what
I call bullshit?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I got a.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Bullshit on this.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
We're going to get into more about this. I want
to basically give you my take on what actually happened here. Okay,
why did the Trump administration come out with this shocking
to many of the conservative influencers. Conclusion on the Jeffrey
Epstein case. We're going to get into that in part two.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Grab your coffee, grab your wine, and meet us there.
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