August 1, 2025 • 32 mins
We talk about the outrage of Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle ads and what it says about American culture. We also talk about the problem with fake masculinity, Trump's Tariff success, and Kamala Harris' big 2028 announcement. All that and more on RPA's Famboogie!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
And I'm Adriana Coortez and welcome to Red Pilled America's
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We want to finish out this year strong, so you know,
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It's at the end of the year.
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you listen to podcasts and check it out. A lot
going on in this last a week or so since
we spoke to you guys last and I got to
tell you, there's been a lot of good things happening
that make me feel like culture is shifting. There's also
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some concern that we need to kind of stay on
top of things and make sure that you kind of
don't sit on your laurels. But ultimately there's been a
lot happening that has been very encouraging. We're going to
get into that today. I want to talk a little
bit about this influencer, this weight training bodybuilder influencer that
got taken out by the cancel mob, and I think
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that surprisingly that kind of shows a little bit about
what's going on with culture. Now, we're going to talk
about the American Eagle ad and the craze that went
on with that, and we're going to get into some
other things as well too, some other Hollywood related things
and Trump's tariffs that was just supposed to kill the
American economy. We're gonna get into that right now, or
(03:09):
I should say, we're gonna get into that in a
little bit. So let's start off. We want to start
off with this story with this influencer. His name is
Joey swol. I'm gonna bet probably my life that that's
not his real last name, swol If for those of
you guys that don't know and Jim rats like me, no,
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is that Swoll means, you know, working out and getting
buff like me.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I don't know why I'm gonna go rogue a little bit.
But this reminds me of we were at the tennis
club the other day and pickleball has completely taken over
our tennis club, and they have talking.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
About we've taken over pretty much every everything. Right, great
country club, I think.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So we go to Taco Tuesday at the tennis club
and there's pickleball pickup game next to us. So we
start chatting up. This guy's, you know, playing pickleball, and
Patrick starts to say, I don't know if I should
play pickleball because I don't want to mess up my
my tennis swing. You have not played tennis in fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, it has not been fifty not even close to
fifteen years. What are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It's probably been about eight years.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, anyway, you think very very much of your.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, no, Jim Ratt, you get it and you're you.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Know, you're like, you're like John McEnroe.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
When you get your swing down like I did to perfection.
You don't want to ruin it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Oh my gosh, this is what I love, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And I'm watching the pickleball court and yeah, I get it.
It looks fun. It also kind of looks like a
hookup thing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well this this particular pickup game. Yeah, it was a
bunch of singles.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Look very hookup culture. It also, I'm gonna just say.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
We would be in the couples, you know, okay, in
the couples.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
But I'm also seeing that I didn't see. I mean,
there was some fit pickleball players, but there was a
lot more not fit pickleball player.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It was basically like a lot of debar, yeah, and
a lot of boob jobs.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I did wouldn't know. I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, so all the ladies had out the girls because
they were trying to land a new man.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I think there's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
There was a lot of that going on. But yeah,
nobody looked that fit.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
No, they do.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But you know what, it's perfect for us, because I
have news for you. We're not that fit either.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You know how much money I've put into my stroke,
into my extus me into my swing. I put a
lot of money into that swing. I'm not going to
ruin it for some freaking stand up ping pong. You
know what it feels like to me if I'm getting in,
if I'm being honest, it feels like to me with
the first. I've been skiing since I was eight, you
know that we've been skiing our whole lives. Then all
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of a sudden, snowboarding came around, and I'm on the
slopes and these guys are laid out all over the place,
and I hated it. I hated snowboarding when it first
came around. I kind of warmed up to it a
little bit, and I'll probably warm up to pickleball after
a little while as well too. But there's something so
elegant about skiing, and there's something so elegant about tennis.
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And but the those other two things that I just mentioned,
snowboarding and pickleball. I guess snowboarding there's elegance to it,
but not so much, but not so much pickleball.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I feel like you're being very unfair to the.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Pickleball, you know, And I'm probably gonna get some hate mail.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, I'm a fan of the pickleball, So don't let
me in with this guy, all.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Right, back, Joey Okay, because this is a very interesting story.
I actually loved watching this. So this Joey Swool guy,
he has a pretty big social media following. I'd say
he has over a million on Twitter. He probably has
you know, the same on TikTok and some of those
other things.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Is he like a big YouTuber TikTok Okay, this is
I think his platform is TikTok and Twitter and perhaps Instagram,
but I think TikTok and Twitter is kind of where
he's focused.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And this is how I've seen him. So what he
does is he goes to the gym, or he'll take
gym videos that people make, because that's kind of a
whole subculture, people going to the gym taking videos of
themselves doing a gym kind of workout or what have you.
And a lot of times it's people that are kind
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of having the wrong etiquette at the gym, and he
will critique them. He typically does like a car critique,
Like a lot of these guys do they get in
their car, they set their phone up, they have some
video that they're critiquing on or they're commenting on, and
it's a lot of poor etiquette within the gym that
he comments on. So the other day, Hulk Hogan rest
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in Peace dies and he posts a post that's just
kind of you know, a rip, kind of a Hogan
posts and he says, quote rip to a legend and
one of my inspirations to start working out, and he
posts a picture of himself as Hulk Hogan at the
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gym working out real.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah it was. It was from a Halloween He basically
a dressed as Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yes, So he posts that and I guess his following
kind of goes crazy on it. So he responds, this
is his response to kind of the outcry. Apparently Hulk
Hogan has said or done some things that have offended
a lot of people in the past. I don't know
if it's related to his support of Trump. I don't
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know if it's related to something that he might have
said that's off color or kind of you know, what
have you. But apparently there's a lot of people out
there that were not down with Hulk Hogan. Know that
his audience didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So Harry Swoll's audience did not like that. He gave
a shout out and an rip to exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So here is Joey Swoll's response to the outcry.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I owe my followers, my community, and all of social
media and apology. A few days ago, I reposted an
old video of me and the gym where a Hulk
Hogan Halloween costume on the day that he passed. Last night,
in my live stream, a lot of people expressed how
upset and frustrated they were with me that I had
posted that instead of listening and understanding like I should have,
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I became defensive and said that I was posting to
celebrate the wrestling icon, the person that so many of
us looked up to, his kids, that we grew up with,
that made us tear our shirts and take our vitamins
and say our prayers. I didn't know to the extent
of all the horrible things that he had done. Since
last night, I have done a lot of research, talked
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to through people, and learned all of the horrible, horrible
things that that man has done, which is way more
than just making a mistake and being human. So because
of that, I have taken the videos down and I
apologize to anybody that I offended. I am sorry. Also,
during last night's live stream, I used the word colored
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instead of saying person of color, which is a very outdated,
very offensive turn. A few moments later, somebody educated me
and told me that it wasn't okay to use that,
which I immediately apologized to everyone and said I would
never do that again. So once again, to anybody that
I offended, I am sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
All right. So the video goes on a little bit longer,
but you get the drift of it. He's kind of,
you know, really caving to the cancel culture mob. And
so people did not respond to that video as well.
They start attacking him over that as well, and so
he posts another thing, and this is what he has
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to say. All the good I've done, all the people
I've helped, all for nothing. I truly hope all the
people I've inspired do great things in their life and
pay it forward to help others and carry on my message.
But no matter how much good you do, people just
wait for a reason to hate you and tear you down.
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You either die a hero or live long enough to
be the villain. Thank you for your support. I am done.
So he basically says he's now done with posting these videos.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
This is devastating because I have absolutely no idea who
he is, and now he's done. By the way, in
case you want to know the bad things, that all
of the bad things at Hulk Hogan, I would love
to done. Okay, So in twenty fifteen, apparently a video
leaked of two thousand and seven that happened during two
thousand and seven that revealed Hogan using racial slurs and
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racially charged comments about his own daughter. Oh no, okay,
I don't know anything about that. But then there was
a sex tape. In twenty twelve, member Gawker published a
sex tape featuring him and he got a huge settlement. Okay,
so he had a sex tape. Was vitivity bad, steroid use,
very very bad. He did. He used to bury other
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wrestlers and wouldn't allow them to become famous.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Like horrible things, horrible, horrible, pretty much, and he did
it basically every business entrepreneur is done at one point
or another.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Also, he was a liar. He was a big, big
fat liar. He was a liar, liar, pants on fire?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh god, what is he lying?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well, we don't know that. They don't they don't give
that he had he was divorced.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, we know that. I see that video from his
ex wife that she posted a couple of months ago.
I mean it was like, oh my god, that was heartbreaking.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You know what it is? Heartbreaking? The family fell apart,
and it was it was quite sad, but you know,
I don't want.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
To talk ill of Well here's the thing, here's the thing.
None of that matters really because once the cancel culture
mob comes knocking, you don't respond in the way that
he did. Okay, even if there was some validity to
what it was they were saying, you don't give into them,
because ultimately, the second that you apologize, they come and
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they smell blood, and they go for more, and they
go for the jugular. And that's basically what happened. He
basically said that he got reached out to by the
cancel culture mob that got his telephone number, They reached
out to his sister, they started going out, and you know,
basically it was all hands on deck. Let's really destroy
this guy.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Let's pasting a picture for him being dressed his whole clogan.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
But here's the thing that I think is to do.
Here's the thing that I think is the most interesting
thing about it is that here's a guy who works
out and is this huge, buff guy. Okay, really buff dude.
But when the cancel culture mob comes knocking, he caves,
just like the mental weaklings that are out there. So
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here you have a guy it's basically performative masculinity. Is
how this guy is rolling. Yeah, he's not. He portrays,
he puts this image out there that he's this masculine guy.
Oh and he knows right and wrong and he's a
man and and you guys need to act this way in.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
The gym a man.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But the second that the cancel culture mob comes knocking,
he caves. He totally caves. And it's so interesting and
so good to watch when this kind of thing happens,
because I love it when people like this get kind
of taken off the field because a lot of people
will follow this guy and have followed this guy obviously
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as a huge following, But when the going gets rough
is when you really see how somebody responds and how
somebody acts. So it's just all performative masculinity. And I
think that is the case with a lot of these influencers.
Obviously not you. You are a fashion icon both in front
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of your Instagram account and away from your Instagram account.
This guy is not masculine when it mattered. Basically, you
have everybody coming after him, Okay, fine, because of the
whole Cogan thing, and then you cave like that. It's
so hard and so often. I am disappointed by all
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of these influencers because I've watched a lot of his videos.
I thought some of his stuff has been interesting. He's
a little bit too groomed for me. He has like
those you know, like the thing that the people used
to do back in the day where they'd shave the
side of their head, but then they leave some hair
there and then they'd like put a line or two there.
I don't know if that's a fade. I think a
fad is actually when when you shave your head up
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and it gets longer as it goes to the top.
I think that's a faith. But he would, you know,
they would leave a little bit of hair, has that
in the eyebrow, and it just he feels a little
bit too groomed to me. He also looks like he
probably shaves his body. This guy. When it counted, he
did not deliver. And I'm seeing that more and more
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with so many of these influencers when it counts, when
they have to tell the truth, when they you know,
as we've talked about with the Epstein thing and other
kinds of stories like that, whether it be Tim Ballard,
whether it be all these other or that we've covered
in the past. They are all about the clicks, and
the second the click stops or they get a little
(16:11):
bit of pushback, like this guy did, he completely caved.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
He completely caved, by the way. We got some pushback
from last week, from our episode last week.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, and I haven't changed my opinion on it one bit.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well, one of our listeners felt that I, in particular,
was flippant about the girls being teenagers. That she felt
like I came off as if because they weren't pre
pubescent children, that I was okay with them being teenagers,
which is of course not true, and we said as
(16:44):
much many times. I mean, I'm obviously the mother of
a teenage daughter. Of course, I don't believe that grown
men should be having sexual relations with underage girls of
any age, of.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Course, But the point was that the way that it
was being painted was it was children.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And it would have you pre peubescent children, you know,
in a dungeon, and they were taking the adrenocron.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Exactly So. But I do think this is a sign
that culture is going in the right way, because I
think that people are sessing these kinds of influencers out
exposing them and then you can move on.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, but you know what, there is a time to apologize.
And I don't want to take the position that anytime
somebody's called out on something that they do wrong that
they should not apologize.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
There's a time where.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
There's a time and place to apologize, and there's a
time not.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
To APOLOGYE there was a time years ago, I guess,
and I saw.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I actually heard he had a really great tennis wing.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That was just a few moments ago when Matt Walsh
had said something he had a radio show and he
said something about I want to say it was basically
maybe fifteen or sixteen, it was it was something along
those yeah, yeah, those like where he thought that that
was the right age for a woman to basically start
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getting married and that kind of a thing un paraphrasing here.
But that ended up coming out after, you know, because
he's kind of been a champion, you know, against a
lot of things and you know, against trans and all
that kind of stuff. He did not apologize. He said,
I refuse to apologize. I'm not going to apologize on it.
And so should he have apologized in that moment. I
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don't think if he didn't feel if he still feels
that way, he probably shouldn't apologized. I agree with him.
When the mob comes though, I don't think that is
ever a time a good time to apologize. I think
that you get into trouble when you do it. You
saw that with Joe Rogan, you know, although he survived it,
he's one of the few that has apologized about a
(18:47):
kind of a scandalous moment like this compilation of him
saying dropping the end bomb in kind of a jocular way,
and he ended up getting nailed for that, and so
he put out an apology video on that, and he's
one of the few is actually I've seen survive after that.
Most do not survive after that, even if you're wrong.
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In some cases, when the mob comes at you, it
becomes this thing where you're going to feed the beast
when you do it, and it's kind of something that
you should be careful about.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I think you just have to hold strong. Yes, you
can apologize and hold strong.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think I have to be just careful about what
you're saying in regards to what you believe, and if
what you believe is what you're saying. Sometimes we get
in articulate sometimes when you're talking for you know, an
hour or so, and you're trying to make a point,
maybe you say a word kind that's off, or you
say a phrase that's off, and you know what, as
far as like you know, like you said, A couple
of people pushed back on the Epstein thing. I mean,
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if you know anything about the history of our show,
we literally launched it going after a guy that was
getting in bed with other people's kids. We are obviously
not okay with any kind of activity that breaches into
that realm whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
So of course, yeah, I didn't. I don't think that
he should have apologized this Joey Sewall. I think it
was a big mistake and he looks like a weakling.
He does, and that's it's unfortunate for him because he's
trying to, you know, he plays the big strongman card
and this did not.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Tell you that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
For Joey Swoll. You know, he came as fast as
he because he ain't swollen no more.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Okay, So we're going to move on to another topic.
I want to get into this American Eagle add controversy
because I think it really shows where culture is going.
And we're going to get to that right after the break.
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continue make stories that you love. So I want to
get into this American Eagle controversy, which I think is
pretty fascinating because people are going crazy that we're kind
of going back to the eighties, right. That's kind of
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what this vibe that I'm feeling right now is we
have this ad that comes out with Sidney Sweeney. Sidney
Sweeney is not fifteen years old. She's in her twenties.
I think she's does these ads with American Eagle.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, she's twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And they people are calling it Nazi kind of adjacent
propaganda for the way that they deliver this ad. And
I want to play one of these ads for you guys.
Jans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color, personality and even eye color.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
My chains are blue.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Sidney Sweeney has very keenes. They make it pretty clear
they're trying to play with the whole. I have good
genes biologically, and also so I have good jeans in
the clothes that I'm wearing.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
My blue jeans. My denim is great too.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So that here is the freak out. So basically you
have literally, I mean, it doesn't get any more woki
than this person who has a trans flag in her
in her background. Here she is commenting on and this
has been like a phenomenon throughout Twitter, throughout TikTok, which
is people responding to these ads.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yes, and this commentator is every is the exact opposite
of the way Sidney Sweeney looks.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I will be the friend that's two woke because those
Sidney Sweeney American Eagle ads are weird, like fascist weird,
like Nazi propaganda weird.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
And that's kind of how you hear most of these.
Here's another one kind of going a little bit crazy
on it. And this one I think rubbed me the
wrong way when I was listening to this person.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
It is so difficult to grow up as a person
of color, specifically a woman, and view yourself as beautiful
in any sense of the word.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
She looks like she's Indian, and she's actually not that attractive.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I remember growing up in a predominantly white community wishing
myself out of this body, out of this culture. Take
my name if it meant that I could wake up
blonde haired and blue eyed, never having to explain who
I am or worry about being accepted. That is why
this American Ego ad with Sidney Sweeney is especially off putting.
There's a lot of rhetoric right now online about the
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political ideologies that this represents, and I don't discount that,
But for me, I can't help but think about the
thirteen year old brown girl who gets all her denim
at American, who already struggles to see her beauty and
worth in a world that continues to value white, eurocentric
beauty standards, which I naive. We thought by this point
we would have moved the needle on, and this girl
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is now wishing she too could wake up with blonde
hair and blue eyes. It took me so long, too
long in my life to look in the mirror and
see beauty, and I hate that that continues to be
a shared experience for young brown girls in this country.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Because you must have some sort of a mental illness.
You're obviously a psychopath exactly. I mean, you don't love yourself.
That's your problem.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
So and that's kind of you know, you get the
gist of it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
That's the funny thing too, though, is about the Sydney
Sweeney ad. So you know, they're talking about her genes
and how she's got great jeans handed out from her parents,
and they're you know, they're focusing in on her, on
her boobs and she's got a boob job. She didn't
get those Those those are not genetic. Those are doctor diamond.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Sot her criticism or all the criticism out there that
you know, oh, this is about jenes, this is about jeans.
They don't even getting that right because their boob or
boobs are fake.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, she's got a boob job.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
She's got a boob job.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's a good bun, it's a good boob job, but
not hers.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So I want to give a couple more examples of
kind of you know, what's going on here because I
think it shows a trend. So dunkin Donuts does an
add kind of jumping off on this on some kind
of a drink. It's kind of some golden drink, and
they have they hire this guy, good looking kid. He
was on that show, what was the name of the.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Show, Summer I turned pretty Yes, so woke.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
But here he is doing the dunkin Donuts ad that
kind of jumps off of this controversy.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Look, I didn't ask to be the King of Summer.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It just kind of happened. This tan genetics. I just
got my color analysis back.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Guess what Golden summer. Literally, I can't help it. Every
time I drink a dunkin Golden how refresher, It's like
the sun just finds me. So sipping these refreshers makes
me the King of Summer.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Guilty is charged. So he's a good looking dude, and
obviously you hear him mention about the jeans.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
There.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
They're kind of jumping off from it. And the trend
that you see happening here is that advertisers are saying
screw it. They are not caving at least in these
instances to the cancel culture mob, or at least they're
willing to take some risks. There's no doubt that American
(26:05):
Eagle knew what they were doing. They didn't like make
the mistake with the double entendre because they actually mentioned genes,
the biological genes in there. They knew that there was
going to cause some controversy on this, and they did
it anyways they wanted it to exactly. And now here
you have somebody this dunkin Donuts that knows that this
(26:25):
thing is controversial right now, because now it's already hit
the social media platforms as being controversial, and they leaned
into it. And this is a good sign for culture
because I'm telling you these brands, We've had a lot
of history with working with brands. We had an advertising
agency for over ten years and we had to deal
(26:46):
with these kinds of things where we had put a
product out there, we put a campaign out there, and
they would respond to one comment. I remember we did
this really kind of controversial campaign where we had this
global warming proponent and a global warming skeptic debate. We
(27:07):
did a debate series. It was like a web series
that we did. We traveled all across the country. We
did it in multiple cities and it was very well
received almost everywhere, got coverage in all of the major newspapers.
But in one instance, the Huffington Post did a little
bit of a hit job on us, and then there
was one comment, and of course some of the brand
(27:29):
people freaked out, and we're like, it's one comment. Look
at all the positivity out of this. Now the brands
are saying, you know what, We're going to take it,
and we're going to take the heat. And that is
a major culture shift right now that we're seeing happen.
This is something that I think that we've all been
waiting for.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, you know, I think that brands are really they've
been struggling. So many brands have been struggling, and they're
seeing that Trump won in a landslide, you know, he
killed it. Yeah, and they know that that audience must
be tapped in order for them to survive.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
And there's only you can only for so long pull
off this kind of woke stuff and lose money. And
these brands, they were not making money with these incredibly
out of shape people in their genes or in their
victorious secrets under garments and what have you. They've they've
had to have been suffering because these brands are about aspiration.
(28:28):
Anytime you're dealing with a fashion brand. You're talking about aspirational.
You want to be the person that is on that ad,
and if you have some incredibly obese, overweight person in
that ad, it is not aspirational. This is really what
it is. And you heard that with one of those
kinds of freak outs. Those responses was they it is
(28:51):
an anti white thing. They don't like the Anglo Saxon
norm of the United States, basically the norm that this
country was founded on. They don't like it. And you
see it now, Like there's something that just happened with
Billie Eilish. She she played out in Ireland, she has
she's of Irish heritage, and she's getting lambasted for this
(29:16):
statement that she made while performing in Ireland. As you
guys know, I'm Irish, so it's.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I am not from.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Here Ada, but it's really cool that come somewhere and
like everybody looks exactly like you.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And we're all just hasis me. So so there you have.
She there, she's basically being called an ethno nationalist because
of that, because she goes to a place she's not.
You know, you grow up in California, you grew up
in Los Angeles as she did, and you are around
all these different kinds of cultures and and all these
(29:59):
different kinds of you know, ethnicities, and she goes to
a place where everyone kind of looks like her. Yeah,
and it's kind of a shock, I think to some
people when that, when they do that, And I mean,
if you're in California.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, she's from Echo Park exactly, she's growing up with
a lot of Mexicans exactly. You know, she's like the
only white girl in Glass Yes, So.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I think what this kind of highlights is is this
is really an attack on whiteness. You look at Cindy
Sweeney and you see the responses that are out there.
You see a lot of African Americans, a lot of Indians,
a lot of Latinos getting frustrated and angry with this
because this girl is being hoisted up there as beauty.
(30:44):
And by the way, I don't even think she's that,
like classically pretty who Sydney, she's not. She has sex appeal, mads.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Has a lot of sex appeal, but she's not conventionally beautiful.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
No, she's not. She's sexy, she's not. So they're not
even really going that.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, what happened if she didn't have the boob.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Job exactly so, but the.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Butt, no boobs, not that pretty in the face. I
don't know that boob job was the best money she
ever spent.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
It, really, it really was, because she's been living off
that for how long now.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, I mean from the beginning, from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
And she's made a complete career on it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Good for her.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
So, But the point being here is I think that
it is interesting and good to see this happening with
advertisers because they are kind of this They drive so
much of the culture. We don't really talk about that
that much, and we probably should because we have such
a background in that in this area that it is.
(31:39):
They are huge drivers as much or or even more
so than some of the films and some of the
in the in the Hollywood industry because they're constantly putting
out product constantly, constantly, constantly. Yeah, they have driven a
lot of these kinds of cultural shifts, and right now
we're seeing one play out. So we are going to
(32:04):
go into part two of Fambogie. We're going to talk
a little bit about Trump's tariffs and some new news
about Kamala Harris. We're also going to get into more
on Hollywood and Neil McDonough and how he was blacklisted
and why he was blacklisted. We're going to get into
that in Part two. Join us over there and we
will see then
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It's at the end of the year.
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Oh we do, Okay. I thought we were just winging
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you listen to podcasts and check it out. A lot
going on in this last a week or so since
we spoke to you guys last and I got to
tell you, there's been a lot of good things happening
that make me feel like culture is shifting. There's also
(02:27):
some concern that we need to kind of stay on
top of things and make sure that you kind of
don't sit on your laurels. But ultimately there's been a
lot happening that has been very encouraging. We're going to
get into that today. I want to talk a little
bit about this influencer, this weight training bodybuilder influencer that
got taken out by the cancel mob, and I think
(02:49):
that surprisingly that kind of shows a little bit about
what's going on with culture. Now, we're going to talk
about the American Eagle ad and the craze that went
on with that, and we're going to get into some
other things as well too, some other Hollywood related things
and Trump's tariffs that was just supposed to kill the
American economy. We're gonna get into that right now, or
(03:09):
I should say, we're gonna get into that in a
little bit. So let's start off. We want to start
off with this story with this influencer. His name is
Joey swol. I'm gonna bet probably my life that that's
not his real last name, swol If for those of
you guys that don't know and Jim rats like me, no,
(03:30):
is that Swoll means, you know, working out and getting
buff like me.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I don't know why I'm gonna go rogue a little bit.
But this reminds me of we were at the tennis
club the other day and pickleball has completely taken over
our tennis club, and they have talking.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
About we've taken over pretty much every everything. Right, great
country club, I think.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So we go to Taco Tuesday at the tennis club
and there's pickleball pickup game next to us. So we
start chatting up. This guy's, you know, playing pickleball, and
Patrick starts to say, I don't know if I should
play pickleball because I don't want to mess up my
my tennis swing. You have not played tennis in fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, it has not been fifty not even close to
fifteen years. What are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It's probably been about eight years.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, anyway, you think very very much of your.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, no, Jim Ratt, you get it and you're you.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Know, you're like, you're like John McEnroe.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
When you get your swing down like I did to perfection.
You don't want to ruin it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Oh my gosh, this is what I love, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And I'm watching the pickleball court and yeah, I get it.
It looks fun. It also kind of looks like a
hookup thing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well this this particular pickup game. Yeah, it was a
bunch of singles.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Look very hookup culture. It also, I'm gonna just say.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
We would be in the couples, you know, okay, in
the couples.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
But I'm also seeing that I didn't see. I mean,
there was some fit pickleball players, but there was a
lot more not fit pickleball player.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It was basically like a lot of debar, yeah, and
a lot of boob jobs.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I did wouldn't know. I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, so all the ladies had out the girls because
they were trying to land a new man.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I think there's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
There was a lot of that going on. But yeah,
nobody looked that fit.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
No, they do.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But you know what, it's perfect for us, because I
have news for you. We're not that fit either.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You know how much money I've put into my stroke,
into my extus me into my swing. I put a
lot of money into that swing. I'm not going to
ruin it for some freaking stand up ping pong. You
know what it feels like to me if I'm getting in,
if I'm being honest, it feels like to me with
the first. I've been skiing since I was eight, you
know that we've been skiing our whole lives. Then all
(05:43):
of a sudden, snowboarding came around, and I'm on the
slopes and these guys are laid out all over the place,
and I hated it. I hated snowboarding when it first
came around. I kind of warmed up to it a
little bit, and I'll probably warm up to pickleball after
a little while as well too. But there's something so
elegant about skiing, and there's something so elegant about tennis.
(06:06):
And but the those other two things that I just mentioned,
snowboarding and pickleball. I guess snowboarding there's elegance to it,
but not so much, but not so much pickleball.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I feel like you're being very unfair to the.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Pickleball, you know, And I'm probably gonna get some hate mail.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, I'm a fan of the pickleball, So don't let
me in with this guy, all.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Right, back, Joey Okay, because this is a very interesting story.
I actually loved watching this. So this Joey Swool guy,
he has a pretty big social media following. I'd say
he has over a million on Twitter. He probably has
you know, the same on TikTok and some of those
other things.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Is he like a big YouTuber TikTok Okay, this is
I think his platform is TikTok and Twitter and perhaps Instagram,
but I think TikTok and Twitter is kind of where
he's focused.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And this is how I've seen him. So what he
does is he goes to the gym, or he'll take
gym videos that people make, because that's kind of a
whole subculture, people going to the gym taking videos of
themselves doing a gym kind of workout or what have you.
And a lot of times it's people that are kind
(07:20):
of having the wrong etiquette at the gym, and he
will critique them. He typically does like a car critique,
Like a lot of these guys do they get in
their car, they set their phone up, they have some
video that they're critiquing on or they're commenting on, and
it's a lot of poor etiquette within the gym that
he comments on. So the other day, Hulk Hogan rest
(07:42):
in Peace dies and he posts a post that's just
kind of you know, a rip, kind of a Hogan
posts and he says, quote rip to a legend and
one of my inspirations to start working out, and he
posts a picture of himself as Hulk Hogan at the
(08:02):
gym working out real.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah it was. It was from a Halloween He basically
a dressed as Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yes, So he posts that and I guess his following
kind of goes crazy on it. So he responds, this
is his response to kind of the outcry. Apparently Hulk
Hogan has said or done some things that have offended
a lot of people in the past. I don't know
if it's related to his support of Trump. I don't
(08:29):
know if it's related to something that he might have
said that's off color or kind of you know, what
have you. But apparently there's a lot of people out
there that were not down with Hulk Hogan. Know that
his audience didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So Harry Swoll's audience did not like that. He gave
a shout out and an rip to exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So here is Joey Swoll's response to the outcry.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I owe my followers, my community, and all of social
media and apology. A few days ago, I reposted an
old video of me and the gym where a Hulk
Hogan Halloween costume on the day that he passed. Last night,
in my live stream, a lot of people expressed how
upset and frustrated they were with me that I had
posted that instead of listening and understanding like I should have,
(09:17):
I became defensive and said that I was posting to
celebrate the wrestling icon, the person that so many of
us looked up to, his kids, that we grew up with,
that made us tear our shirts and take our vitamins
and say our prayers. I didn't know to the extent
of all the horrible things that he had done. Since
last night, I have done a lot of research, talked
(09:38):
to through people, and learned all of the horrible, horrible
things that that man has done, which is way more
than just making a mistake and being human. So because
of that, I have taken the videos down and I
apologize to anybody that I offended. I am sorry. Also,
during last night's live stream, I used the word colored
(09:59):
instead of saying person of color, which is a very outdated,
very offensive turn. A few moments later, somebody educated me
and told me that it wasn't okay to use that,
which I immediately apologized to everyone and said I would
never do that again. So once again, to anybody that
I offended, I am sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
All right. So the video goes on a little bit longer,
but you get the drift of it. He's kind of,
you know, really caving to the cancel culture mob. And
so people did not respond to that video as well.
They start attacking him over that as well, and so
he posts another thing, and this is what he has
(10:39):
to say. All the good I've done, all the people
I've helped, all for nothing. I truly hope all the
people I've inspired do great things in their life and
pay it forward to help others and carry on my message.
But no matter how much good you do, people just
wait for a reason to hate you and tear you down.
(11:00):
You either die a hero or live long enough to
be the villain. Thank you for your support. I am done.
So he basically says he's now done with posting these videos.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
This is devastating because I have absolutely no idea who
he is, and now he's done. By the way, in
case you want to know the bad things, that all
of the bad things at Hulk Hogan, I would love
to done. Okay, So in twenty fifteen, apparently a video
leaked of two thousand and seven that happened during two
thousand and seven that revealed Hogan using racial slurs and
(11:36):
racially charged comments about his own daughter. Oh no, okay,
I don't know anything about that. But then there was
a sex tape. In twenty twelve, member Gawker published a
sex tape featuring him and he got a huge settlement. Okay,
so he had a sex tape. Was vitivity bad, steroid use,
very very bad. He did. He used to bury other
(12:01):
wrestlers and wouldn't allow them to become famous.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Like horrible things, horrible, horrible, pretty much, and he did
it basically every business entrepreneur is done at one point
or another.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Also, he was a liar. He was a big, big
fat liar. He was a liar, liar, pants on fire?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh god, what is he lying?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well, we don't know that. They don't they don't give
that he had he was divorced.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, we know that. I see that video from his
ex wife that she posted a couple of months ago.
I mean it was like, oh my god, that was heartbreaking.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You know what it is? Heartbreaking? The family fell apart,
and it was it was quite sad, but you know,
I don't want.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
To talk ill of Well here's the thing, here's the thing.
None of that matters really because once the cancel culture
mob comes knocking, you don't respond in the way that
he did. Okay, even if there was some validity to
what it was they were saying, you don't give into them,
because ultimately, the second that you apologize, they come and
(12:57):
they smell blood, and they go for more, and they
go for the jugular. And that's basically what happened. He
basically said that he got reached out to by the
cancel culture mob that got his telephone number, They reached
out to his sister, they started going out, and you know,
basically it was all hands on deck. Let's really destroy
this guy.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Let's pasting a picture for him being dressed his whole clogan.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
But here's the thing that I think is to do.
Here's the thing that I think is the most interesting
thing about it is that here's a guy who works
out and is this huge, buff guy. Okay, really buff dude.
But when the cancel culture mob comes knocking, he caves,
just like the mental weaklings that are out there. So
(13:42):
here you have a guy it's basically performative masculinity. Is
how this guy is rolling. Yeah, he's not. He portrays,
he puts this image out there that he's this masculine guy.
Oh and he knows right and wrong and he's a
man and and you guys need to act this way in.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
The gym a man.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But the second that the cancel culture mob comes knocking,
he caves. He totally caves. And it's so interesting and
so good to watch when this kind of thing happens,
because I love it when people like this get kind
of taken off the field because a lot of people
will follow this guy and have followed this guy obviously
(14:25):
as a huge following, But when the going gets rough
is when you really see how somebody responds and how
somebody acts. So it's just all performative masculinity. And I
think that is the case with a lot of these influencers.
Obviously not you. You are a fashion icon both in front
(14:45):
of your Instagram account and away from your Instagram account.
This guy is not masculine when it mattered. Basically, you
have everybody coming after him, Okay, fine, because of the
whole Cogan thing, and then you cave like that. It's
so hard and so often. I am disappointed by all
(15:07):
of these influencers because I've watched a lot of his videos.
I thought some of his stuff has been interesting. He's
a little bit too groomed for me. He has like
those you know, like the thing that the people used
to do back in the day where they'd shave the
side of their head, but then they leave some hair
there and then they'd like put a line or two there.
I don't know if that's a fade. I think a
fad is actually when when you shave your head up
(15:30):
and it gets longer as it goes to the top.
I think that's a faith. But he would, you know,
they would leave a little bit of hair, has that
in the eyebrow, and it just he feels a little
bit too groomed to me. He also looks like he
probably shaves his body. This guy. When it counted, he
did not deliver. And I'm seeing that more and more
(15:51):
with so many of these influencers when it counts, when
they have to tell the truth, when they you know,
as we've talked about with the Epstein thing and other
kinds of stories like that, whether it be Tim Ballard,
whether it be all these other or that we've covered
in the past. They are all about the clicks, and
the second the click stops or they get a little
(16:11):
bit of pushback, like this guy did, he completely caved.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
He completely caved, by the way. We got some pushback
from last week, from our episode last week.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, and I haven't changed my opinion on it one bit.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well, one of our listeners felt that I, in particular,
was flippant about the girls being teenagers. That she felt
like I came off as if because they weren't pre
pubescent children, that I was okay with them being teenagers,
which is of course not true, and we said as
(16:44):
much many times. I mean, I'm obviously the mother of
a teenage daughter. Of course, I don't believe that grown
men should be having sexual relations with underage girls of
any age, of.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Course, But the point was that the way that it
was being painted was it was children.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And it would have you pre peubescent children, you know,
in a dungeon, and they were taking the adrenocron.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Exactly So. But I do think this is a sign
that culture is going in the right way, because I
think that people are sessing these kinds of influencers out
exposing them and then you can move on.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, but you know what, there is a time to apologize.
And I don't want to take the position that anytime
somebody's called out on something that they do wrong that
they should not apologize.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
There's a time where.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
There's a time and place to apologize, and there's a
time not.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
To APOLOGYE there was a time years ago, I guess,
and I saw.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I actually heard he had a really great tennis wing.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That was just a few moments ago when Matt Walsh
had said something he had a radio show and he
said something about I want to say it was basically
maybe fifteen or sixteen, it was it was something along
those yeah, yeah, those like where he thought that that
was the right age for a woman to basically start
(18:01):
getting married and that kind of a thing un paraphrasing here.
But that ended up coming out after, you know, because
he's kind of been a champion, you know, against a
lot of things and you know, against trans and all
that kind of stuff. He did not apologize. He said,
I refuse to apologize. I'm not going to apologize on it.
And so should he have apologized in that moment. I
(18:24):
don't think if he didn't feel if he still feels
that way, he probably shouldn't apologized. I agree with him.
When the mob comes though, I don't think that is
ever a time a good time to apologize. I think
that you get into trouble when you do it. You
saw that with Joe Rogan, you know, although he survived it,
he's one of the few that has apologized about a
(18:47):
kind of a scandalous moment like this compilation of him
saying dropping the end bomb in kind of a jocular way,
and he ended up getting nailed for that, and so
he put out an apology video on that, and he's
one of the few is actually I've seen survive after that.
Most do not survive after that, even if you're wrong.
(19:09):
In some cases, when the mob comes at you, it
becomes this thing where you're going to feed the beast
when you do it, and it's kind of something that
you should be careful about.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I think you just have to hold strong. Yes, you
can apologize and hold strong.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think I have to be just careful about what
you're saying in regards to what you believe, and if
what you believe is what you're saying. Sometimes we get
in articulate sometimes when you're talking for you know, an
hour or so, and you're trying to make a point,
maybe you say a word kind that's off, or you
say a phrase that's off, and you know what, as
far as like you know, like you said, A couple
of people pushed back on the Epstein thing. I mean,
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if you know anything about the history of our show,
we literally launched it going after a guy that was
getting in bed with other people's kids. We are obviously
not okay with any kind of activity that breaches into
that realm whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
So of course, yeah, I didn't. I don't think that
he should have apologized this Joey Sewall. I think it
was a big mistake and he looks like a weakling.
He does, and that's it's unfortunate for him because he's
trying to, you know, he plays the big strongman card
and this did not.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Tell you that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
For Joey Swoll. You know, he came as fast as
he because he ain't swollen no more.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Okay, So we're going to move on to another topic.
I want to get into this American Eagle add controversy
because I think it really shows where culture is going.
And we're going to get to that right after the break.
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continue make stories that you love. So I want to
get into this American Eagle controversy, which I think is
pretty fascinating because people are going crazy that we're kind
of going back to the eighties, right. That's kind of
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what this vibe that I'm feeling right now is we
have this ad that comes out with Sidney Sweeney. Sidney
Sweeney is not fifteen years old. She's in her twenties.
I think she's does these ads with American Eagle.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, she's twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And they people are calling it Nazi kind of adjacent
propaganda for the way that they deliver this ad. And
I want to play one of these ads for you guys.
Jans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color, personality and even eye color.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
My chains are blue.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Sidney Sweeney has very keenes. They make it pretty clear
they're trying to play with the whole. I have good
genes biologically, and also so I have good jeans in
the clothes that I'm wearing.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
My blue jeans. My denim is great too.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So that here is the freak out. So basically you
have literally, I mean, it doesn't get any more woki
than this person who has a trans flag in her
in her background. Here she is commenting on and this
has been like a phenomenon throughout Twitter, throughout TikTok, which
is people responding to these ads.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yes, and this commentator is every is the exact opposite
of the way Sidney Sweeney looks.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I will be the friend that's two woke because those
Sidney Sweeney American Eagle ads are weird, like fascist weird,
like Nazi propaganda weird.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
And that's kind of how you hear most of these.
Here's another one kind of going a little bit crazy
on it. And this one I think rubbed me the
wrong way when I was listening to this person.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
It is so difficult to grow up as a person
of color, specifically a woman, and view yourself as beautiful
in any sense of the word.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
She looks like she's Indian, and she's actually not that attractive.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I remember growing up in a predominantly white community wishing
myself out of this body, out of this culture. Take
my name if it meant that I could wake up
blonde haired and blue eyed, never having to explain who
I am or worry about being accepted. That is why
this American Ego ad with Sidney Sweeney is especially off putting.
There's a lot of rhetoric right now online about the
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political ideologies that this represents, and I don't discount that,
But for me, I can't help but think about the
thirteen year old brown girl who gets all her denim
at American, who already struggles to see her beauty and
worth in a world that continues to value white, eurocentric
beauty standards, which I naive. We thought by this point
we would have moved the needle on, and this girl
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is now wishing she too could wake up with blonde
hair and blue eyes. It took me so long, too
long in my life to look in the mirror and
see beauty, and I hate that that continues to be
a shared experience for young brown girls in this country.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Because you must have some sort of a mental illness.
You're obviously a psychopath exactly. I mean, you don't love yourself.
That's your problem.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
So and that's kind of you know, you get the
gist of it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
That's the funny thing too, though, is about the Sydney
Sweeney ad. So you know, they're talking about her genes
and how she's got great jeans handed out from her parents,
and they're you know, they're focusing in on her, on
her boobs and she's got a boob job. She didn't
get those Those those are not genetic. Those are doctor diamond.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Sot her criticism or all the criticism out there that
you know, oh, this is about jenes, this is about jeans.
They don't even getting that right because their boob or
boobs are fake.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, she's got a boob job.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
She's got a boob job.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's a good bun, it's a good boob job, but
not hers.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So I want to give a couple more examples of
kind of you know, what's going on here because I
think it shows a trend. So dunkin Donuts does an
add kind of jumping off on this on some kind
of a drink. It's kind of some golden drink, and
they have they hire this guy, good looking kid. He
was on that show, what was the name of the.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Show, Summer I turned pretty Yes, so woke.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
But here he is doing the dunkin Donuts ad that
kind of jumps off of this controversy.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Look, I didn't ask to be the King of Summer.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It just kind of happened. This tan genetics. I just
got my color analysis back.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Guess what Golden summer. Literally, I can't help it. Every
time I drink a dunkin Golden how refresher, It's like
the sun just finds me. So sipping these refreshers makes
me the King of Summer.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Guilty is charged. So he's a good looking dude, and
obviously you hear him mention about the jeans.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
There.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
They're kind of jumping off from it. And the trend
that you see happening here is that advertisers are saying
screw it. They are not caving at least in these
instances to the cancel culture mob, or at least they're
willing to take some risks. There's no doubt that American
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Eagle knew what they were doing. They didn't like make
the mistake with the double entendre because they actually mentioned genes,
the biological genes in there. They knew that there was
going to cause some controversy on this, and they did
it anyways they wanted it to exactly. And now here
you have somebody this dunkin Donuts that knows that this
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thing is controversial right now, because now it's already hit
the social media platforms as being controversial, and they leaned
into it. And this is a good sign for culture
because I'm telling you these brands, We've had a lot
of history with working with brands. We had an advertising
agency for over ten years and we had to deal
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with these kinds of things where we had put a
product out there, we put a campaign out there, and
they would respond to one comment. I remember we did
this really kind of controversial campaign where we had this
global warming proponent and a global warming skeptic debate. We
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did a debate series. It was like a web series
that we did. We traveled all across the country. We
did it in multiple cities and it was very well
received almost everywhere, got coverage in all of the major newspapers.
But in one instance, the Huffington Post did a little
bit of a hit job on us, and then there
was one comment, and of course some of the brand
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people freaked out, and we're like, it's one comment. Look
at all the positivity out of this. Now the brands
are saying, you know what, We're going to take it,
and we're going to take the heat. And that is
a major culture shift right now that we're seeing happen.
This is something that I think that we've all been
waiting for.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, you know, I think that brands are really they've
been struggling. So many brands have been struggling, and they're
seeing that Trump won in a landslide, you know, he
killed it. Yeah, and they know that that audience must
be tapped in order for them to survive.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
And there's only you can only for so long pull
off this kind of woke stuff and lose money. And
these brands, they were not making money with these incredibly
out of shape people in their genes or in their
victorious secrets under garments and what have you. They've they've
had to have been suffering because these brands are about aspiration.
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Anytime you're dealing with a fashion brand. You're talking about aspirational.
You want to be the person that is on that ad,
and if you have some incredibly obese, overweight person in
that ad, it is not aspirational. This is really what
it is. And you heard that with one of those
kinds of freak outs. Those responses was they it is
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an anti white thing. They don't like the Anglo Saxon
norm of the United States, basically the norm that this
country was founded on. They don't like it. And you
see it now, Like there's something that just happened with
Billie Eilish. She she played out in Ireland, she has
she's of Irish heritage, and she's getting lambasted for this
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statement that she made while performing in Ireland. As you
guys know, I'm Irish, so it's.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I am not from.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Here Ada, but it's really cool that come somewhere and
like everybody looks exactly like you.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And we're all just hasis me. So so there you have.
She there, she's basically being called an ethno nationalist because
of that, because she goes to a place she's not.
You know, you grow up in California, you grew up
in Los Angeles as she did, and you are around
all these different kinds of cultures and and all these
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different kinds of you know, ethnicities, and she goes to
a place where everyone kind of looks like her. Yeah,
and it's kind of a shock, I think to some
people when that, when they do that, And I mean,
if you're in California.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, she's from Echo Park exactly, she's growing up with
a lot of Mexicans exactly. You know, she's like the
only white girl in Glass Yes, So.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I think what this kind of highlights is is this
is really an attack on whiteness. You look at Cindy
Sweeney and you see the responses that are out there.
You see a lot of African Americans, a lot of Indians,
a lot of Latinos getting frustrated and angry with this
because this girl is being hoisted up there as beauty.
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And by the way, I don't even think she's that,
like classically pretty who Sydney, she's not. She has sex appeal, mads.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Has a lot of sex appeal, but she's not conventionally beautiful.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
No, she's not. She's sexy, she's not. So they're not
even really going that.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, what happened if she didn't have the boob.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Job exactly so, but the.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Butt, no boobs, not that pretty in the face. I
don't know that boob job was the best money she
ever spent.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
It, really, it really was, because she's been living off
that for how long now.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, I mean from the beginning, from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
And she's made a complete career on it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Good for her.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
So, But the point being here is I think that
it is interesting and good to see this happening with
advertisers because they are kind of this They drive so
much of the culture. We don't really talk about that
that much, and we probably should because we have such
a background in that in this area that it is.
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They are huge drivers as much or or even more
so than some of the films and some of the
in the in the Hollywood industry because they're constantly putting
out product constantly, constantly, constantly. Yeah, they have driven a
lot of these kinds of cultural shifts, and right now
we're seeing one play out. So we are going to
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go into part two of Fambogie. We're going to talk
a little bit about Trump's tariffs and some new news
about Kamala Harris. We're also going to get into more
on Hollywood and Neil McDonough and how he was blacklisted
and why he was blacklisted. We're going to get into
that in Part two. Join us over there and we
will see then
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