October 31, 2025 • 37 mins
Part Two: We do a deep dive into the attack on Tucker Carlson for interviewing Nick Fuentes. The fight for the soul of the Right has begun. Who will win?
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
So to continue on with this story, because we're trying
to provide some context of what's happening here with this
Tucker Carlson controversy of him interviewing Nick Fuentes. And I
know there's a lot of people that feel very hot
on both sides of this conversation and at some point
understand it. I can understand why somebody would be repulsed
(01:09):
by some of the things that Nick Fuentes has said
in the past, and I could understand why someone would
be mad that people are going after Tucker Carlson for
just speaking to somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I can also understand why some people in the conservative
movement are mad at Tucker.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes. Yeah, So where we left off is is you
got this guy. He's kind of going to these events,
This Nick Foante, his groper's going to Charlie Kirk's events.
They're asking him questions kind of from the right and
challenging some of the authorized conservative consensus and trying to
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challenge that. Things change. When Elon Musk purchases Twitter, and
I believe that was in twenty twenty two, he promises
to free the bird and bring free speech back to
the platform, and initially, very slowly things start to open up,
be able to speak a little bit more openly on
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the platform. Then very slowly but surely, some accounts got restored.
Nick was not one of those accounts that got restored
pretty early. Alex Jones was restored before him and many others,
But eventually his account gets restored, and when that happens,
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he pretty quickly rises in followers on Twitter, and it
kind of shows the kind of following that he built
while he was out in the woods, and the first
people to kind of engage with him, is Jeremy Boring.
It was a really interesting conversation on Spaces and Fuentes
(02:46):
kind of gave an argument as to why he was
in this digital ghetto for so long, what happened to him.
He kind of explains how he got pushed out to
the fringes by Ben Shapiro, and Jeremy Boring ends up
coming on, has a very civil conversation with Nick. I
thought that Jeremy handled it very well without kind of
(03:07):
condoning the things that Nick had said in the past.
He kind of said, you're very talented broadcaster. Nick is
obviously a very talented broadcaster. But there's this kind of
very interesting back and forth. And fast forward to Candace
Owens getting fired from you know, people will say she
isn't wasn't fired leaving the Daily Wire, and there was
(03:29):
some conflict there and Nick Fuentis ends up coming out
and in support of Candace. This was all around right
around that same time, because I think actually that space
is that Jeremy was on, Candace was already fired at
that time, and that's what that Spaces was about. So
he started he starts having some support of Candace. Nick Fuentis,
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and then at some point he starts getting hostile with
her because she's not allowing him on her platform, and
he felt like she was kind of taking some of
his talking points in regards to some of the policies
that were being discussed by Candace. Now I should state
here to provide a little bit of a context at
this point, I mean, the Palestine attack of Israel had
(04:15):
already happened. This is after October seventh, twenty twenty three.
This is when candace Is feud with her colleagues at
the Daily Wire exploded. It got to a point to
where it was irreconcilable and they ended up breaking up.
And that was kind of the atmosphere at that time.
And at that time, I'm sure you noticed tod Adriana
(04:37):
is when people started to get very vocally against Israel
at that time, very vocally against them. I think initially
there was some pushback to some of the kind of
atrocity propaganda that was getting put out. Obviously there was
horrific things that happened in Israel during that attack, but
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they were trying to even step it up even more
in their early reporting. We did a story on this
with the family feud. We were citing Israeli media that
was saying that some of these things were exaggerated, like
the beheading of babies, and those kinds of things ended
up getting proven wrong. But there was a lot of
conversation and people started to have animosity towards the messaging
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that was getting out there, because a lot of us,
including myself, started feeling like we were getting on this
kind of marching into another Middle East conflict, and to
many of us, that is an area that we do
not want to enter again. Many of us have lost friends.
One of my best friends committed suicide in the wake
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of a Middle East conflict. So we have very strong
feelings about getting involved in another Middle East war. And
so there was a lot of people talking about that.
And that's when you have guys like Dave Smith Rising,
the comedian, the libertarian comedian kind of ethnically Jewish speaking
out against this kind of conflict in Israel's approach to it,
and kind of the bombing of Gaza, some people were
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saying that they were ethnically cleansing the area. I think
that that is a topic for another discussion. I don't
want to get into that too much, right now, but
there was a lot of kind of that going on
at that time. So Candice eventually interviews Nick Fuentis and
then Denish Desuza debates Nick Fuentis. Now we are just
a couple months ago, and he's surely definitely rising within
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the mainstream. Nick fuents He's gone on a bunch of
other interviews at this time. He's gone on with Gavin
McGinnis a couple weeks ago as well. He's interviewing and
having debates with Dave Smith. He's going on Patrick Bett
David's show. He's definitely rising, and then Tucker Carlson interviews him. Now,
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Tucker has an approach to these interviews that I think
can be problematic for him. He gets a little bit
softballly with some There was a bit of a softball
approach to this interview. He did the same thing with
Andrew Tate. I didn't like that he let Andrew Tate
lie to Tucker Carlson's audience and did not eventually later
(07:15):
come back and fact check some of the things that
Andrew Tate said. He did that to a certain degree,
a little bit to a lesser extent with Nickquentis, but
there was definitely some of that. I'll give you one
quick example, he explained Nick Quentis. In this interview, he
talked about how he was on the no fly list.
(07:36):
I'll play quick quick clip of that.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And I'm driving home because I'm on the no fly
list at this time. I'm driving home from Florida.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
As you, by no filists, you mean not extra scrutiny,
but like not allowed to fly on airplanes in the
United States?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Not allowed to fly?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yes, how can that? How can? How old were you?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
How was twenty three? Did you have any felony convictions?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Okay, how can I wasn't even aware that that could happen.
How long were you not allowed to flying airplanes in
the United States?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
One year?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
It's really crazy. Yeah, I was sorry. I just want
to get that out.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
No.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, it's brutal. And you can affirm that you were
not allowed to flying airplanes. Yes, I have the letter
from the TSA. Yeah, I was on the do not
board list.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Sorry, sorry to you.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
No, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
But so he kind of suggests in other forums that
the reason why he was on the no fly list
was because of his politics, because he was a banned guy.
But if you actually do some research into it, because
he sued the TSA. I believe it was to get
off the no fly list. Turns out that the reason
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why he was on the no fly list is he
streamed something about getting in this argument with this flight
attendant and she told him to put on a mask,
and he wouldn't, and so he kinds of fantasizes about
basically strangling her.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Excuse me, could you.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Put your mask on?
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (09:00):
Yeah, And let me tell you. I'm gonna planned and
then I'm gonna get in the airport parking lot and
I'm gonna wait for you, and then I'm gonna put
an ask over your face, your mouth and nose. You
still need to be wearing the mask, even if he
can't breathe so kidding.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And then he kind of insinuates in a very kind
of jocular way that he was going to attack let's say,
flight staff and flight attendants these airplanes, and the TSA
has a zero tolerance policy for these kinds of things.
And so he got put on the on the no
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fly list because of that. And we know that because
once he sued, they came back and provided that and
people were tagging at the FBI at that point, they
probably got aware of it. Because of that, and because
he was such a popular figure at this time within
certain circles, they decided to put him on the no
fly list. He also it apparently was not because of
his politics, but a lot of guys in this space,
(10:05):
anytime they face those kinds of situations, they try to
position themselves as political victims rather than I said some
shit that I probably shouldn't have said.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, other than being accountable.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Exactly so, and that was kind of I think where
kind of Tucker kind of goes wrong in his interviews.
But that said, he interviews him and goes into a
lot of these topics, goes into this topic of Israel,
goes into his positions, and I gotta say, for most
of this conversation it's a two hour conversation, he sounds reasonable.
(10:42):
And I think that's what freaks out so many of
the Jewish community within the conservative movement, is that this
guy sounds reasonable. And so in the wake of this,
this interview with Nick Fuents, you had Mark Levin, you
had Dave Ruben, you had this Josh Hammer guy, Like
I said, we spoke about him a couple weeks ago
(11:04):
that had a conflict with Candice Owens as the first
I've ever heard of him was at that moment he
comes out against Tucker. You have Seth Dillon from the
Babylon b all of them of Jewish, either ethnically or
religiously Jewish. They all are basically working now to blacklist
Tucker from Turning Point. They're trying to hit the points
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that they feel like he's potentially vulnerable. They're trying to
get him either banned from a Turning Point event because
I think he is a speaker at a coming Turning
Point event, and they're trying to get the Heritage Foundation,
these huge legacy conservative organizations, to ban him from attendance.
And what we're seeing here really is this fight for
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the heart of the conservative movement. In the wake of
Charlie Kirk's assassination. There's this void. Now, there's this vacuum,
and people are trying to fill that vacuum. I think
the Jewish conservative movement are fearful that Nick Fuentes and
Tucker Carlson are going to fill that vacuum. In particular
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Nick fuents I think what this also is Tucker Carlson
and JD. Vance are close. They're friends. Jd Vance has
also played a very prominent role over at Turning Point.
He was, you know, carrying the casket at one point.
He's kind of he's spoken recently at one of the
Turning Point events. He's very in that position of being
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very close with Turning Point. And JD Vance's position when
it comes to involvement in the Middle East is making
some of the conservative some of the Jewish conservative movement
fearful of advance presidency. And I think some of this stuff,
some of these attacks on Tucker is a kind of
(12:56):
a proxy attack on jd Vance or at least a
warning shot. Let's say, to Jade Evans, who is I
would say, probably the front runner for the twenty twenty
eight election, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Definitely?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
There's the kind of this power struggle happening within the
Republican and conservative movement. And this is really what we're
seeing with this Tucker Carlson outrage right now. And I
think this is where this is kind of conversation about
that I want to kind of get into and I
want to speak to our Jewish audience that is out
(13:36):
there and some people that might be kind of looking
at this moment and also wanting to cancel Tucker and
wanting to kind of purge Tucker from this from the
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need you, guys support. So what's happening here? Why are
(15:27):
people going at Tucker? And what does this kind of
say about the conservative movement right now? And I really
want to speak to maybe the group that's out there
that's kind of maybe mad at Tucker for having this
Nick Foin Desk guide on my issue. And the thing
that we've always brought up about about Israel and about
this kind of pro Israel lobby within the conservative movement
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is they tend to move towards censorship. It tends to
be something that happens time and time again. And if
you think that Tucker Carlson can be per from the
conservative movement, you have not been paying attention. Tucker Carlson
did not mainstream Nick Fuentis, Nick Fuentess is already mainstream.
(16:15):
He could be argued, platformed and gave more exposure to
Tucker Carlson. If you actually look at Tucker Carlson's interviews
and you see the view count just on Twitter, you
look at the view count of them, the number of
people that have watched the interview with Nick Fuentis blows
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away some of his other interviews so far. It's over
doubled Treasury Secretary Bessent, it's over doubled Ted Cruz's, or
it's about doubled Ted Cruz's interview. There's only a few
that have gotten more views than the Nick Wents interview,
and that would be the president of Iran and the
president of Russia. Okay, those are presidents of nations. Are
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the two that got more than Nick Fuents.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Now, he did an interview with Charlie Kirk that got
a lot less.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Think he got five million, five million views. That's been
up now for about three four months. Nick Fuente's interview
has been up for days and it's and it's over
sixteen million. It's three times as many as his interview
with Charlie Kirk. Okay, this guy is already mainstream, all right, Tucker,
that's not how he rolls. He interviewed Andrew Tate because
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Andrew Tate had a following that and this is my opinion.
Obviously I don't have any inside information on this, but
my opinion is is the reason why he interviewed Andrew
Tate is because Andrew Tate has an enormous online following
and he wanted to tap into that online following. He's
also probably pretty intrigued by some of the things that
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Nick Fuentes had been saying, and I think there's probably
a lot that he aligns to aligns with Nick Wents
when it comes to foreign policy. But ultimately it was
not Tucker Carlson mainstreamed this man. This man had already
gotten to a level of mainstream acceptance, or at least
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a mainstream exposure, long before Tucker Carlson ever came aboard,
and I thought that it was kind of interesting. There's
this guy. His name is Brad Colombo. He started commenting
on this. Brad Columbo is a writer for several kind
of DC outlets. I believe he's gay. I think he
left the Republican Party and he had this to say
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Nick Fuentes one he is mainstream. Now, the year's long
effort which I participated in to gate keep the anti Semitic,
hateful freakouts of the Republican Party and Conservative movement failed.
You can object to this and leave the Republican Party
as I have, but to pretend that strict standards of
decency or integrity still exist in the modern conservative movement
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is to delude yourself. So he pretty much there says
that they had been working on this for years to
cancel this guy, to marginalize him, to keep him out
of the mainstream conversation, but they have been unable to
do so. So my plea to the public is and
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this is what we did when we did our Family
Feud series, was to make this argument. Don't move to
censorship because all it does is produce the streis and effect.
Everybody wants to know what this Nick Fantes guy is about. Now,
anytime you're told that you can't hear something, you want
to go there and listen to it. And this is
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what this canceling of this man has done. It's only
created curiosity. So I think the best way to challenge
these kinds of people is to debate them on the topics.
Debate his ideas because you know, there's been a lot
of people that have been making character attacks on him,
and that's fine, I get it. You know people make
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character attacks all the time. But the same people that
are making character attacks, you could make character attacks on them.
Perfect example, Josh Hammer, this man that just entered my
radar a couple weeks ago with this whole Candice Owen's
kind of few that happened. He not too long ago,
and on more than one occasion said this jew hatred
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is inherent in the European DNA. He also tweeted this
europe will never change. Jew hatred is inherent in its
collective DNA. So he's basically saying that within European descendants,
that anti Semitism is literally within your DNA, within your makeup. Okay,
you can make a character attack on this man because
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of that. You can go back to some of Ben
Shapiro's previous statements and his previous support of the conflict
in the Middle East and some of the comments that
he's made about Palestinians and about Arabs and what have you,
and make a pretty strong character attack on Ben Shapiro.
But it's not going to get you anywhere. You're going
to have to deal with this man's ideas because you
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guys have already tried to cancel this man. You guys
have already tried to throw him into the digital ghetto.
It didn't work. It made him stronger. He's gotten bigger,
and you could cancel him, and somebody else is going
to fill that void because there's been a strong reaction
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to the Israel lobby within the United States. There's a
huge movement within the youth movement against America's involvement with Israel,
and there's no way around that. But dealing with it
head on, you can come out and make good arguments
about why the United States should be supporting Israel without
going on and trying to cancel anybody that disagrees with you.
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Go out there and make those arguments. But if you
continue to take this position, you're going to lose because
you've already lost this fight. You just don't know it yet.
You've already lost this fight about making some of Nick
Fuentis's ideas mainstream, because they already are mainstream. If you
look and see what's happening within the left and within
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the right, these ideas are already being discussed right now,
and I think what a lot of people are hoping
that some of these this Jewish community does within the
conservative movement is it starts to police its own the
same way that Adriana and I, being of Mexican heritage,
speak about illegal immigration in a way that angers much
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of the Latin community. Some of these people that have
these kind of arguments against the Israeli lobby, they want
the Jewish conservatives to police their side some of the
policies that they have taken on. I want to play
this clip for you really quickly. This is from a
Jewish journalist. She is also considers herself a mag the leftist,
(23:04):
and she is angry at the left movement for getting
behind Mom Donnie, the mayor oal candidate in New York
City and the left's position against Israel. This is batya
ungar Saragon.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
According to John Fetterman himself, his Zionism puts him out
of step with the rest of his party, which I'm
sorry only thirteen percent stand with Israelis against the Palestinians.
This is a party whose grassroots is right now captured
by the left, and so Zionism does not have a
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future in the American left. The Democratic Party's relationship with
Zionism depends on whether it's willing to repudiate that far left.
And the thing that makes this so appalling is that
Jews built the left in this country. We built the
labor movement, we broke the New Deal. Seventy percent of
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the lawyers who worked on civil rights cases were Jews.
We've been at the forefront of every liberal and leftist
issue in this country. The absolute hutzpah of saying you're
not welcome here. You know what it reminds me of
when they banned smoking in bars. I was a smoker,
and I was so outraged. I was like, if there's
going to be a turf wour over this, surely the
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smokers should have gotten the bars, okay.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
And you can so easily.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Imagine a counterfactual in which the left in America said,
wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, we
can't oppose Zionism because we would leave lose our beloved
Jews who have been there with us at the forefront
every minute that we built this movement. We have to
find a way to make sure that Zionists still feel welcome.
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How we could never do that to them, and they
didn't do that, they did the opposite.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
So right there, this woman who is considered a maga
leftist kind of explains what many these groupers and many
of these Nick Fuentes type arguments are making, is that
the Jewish community has been a big part of the
reason why the left has been taking and winning some
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of these institutions, some of these kinds of cultural movements,
the very things that we're fighting against, the Jewish community
has been working with the left to flourish, and the
rise of somebody like mom Dami comes from some of
the policies that these people have been pushing the same
kind of policies that open borders that bring in refugees
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that fled some of our cities with either Haitians or
with these Muslims within these New York City within the
New York City in particular, these policies have been pushed
by the Jewish left. So the same way that Adriana
and I speak about illegal immigration and about how we
need to fight against it, against our Mexican heritage, the
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same way that you have conservative blacks speaking about black crime,
the same way that you have other individuals talking about
h one Bees and the issue with h one B's
within the Indian community. You can go down the line
with each one of these ethnic communities. The Jewish community
within the conservative movement needs to police itself, and I
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think that is what you're seeing this movement that you're
seeing rising. Yes, there are a lot of fringe people
that turn to anti Semitism. Man. I fight with people
on Twitter all the time about this stuff. They're so
Jew obsessed. They blame the Jews for all of their problems.
They blame them for everything that every issue that they
have in their life, every problem is connected to the Jews,
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whether it be the Epstein thing, whether it be Charlie
Kirk's assassination itself, they blame it on the Jews. And
I'm one of the first people to jump in their
face and say that is wrong, that's ridiculous. Your jew
obsession is making you make a logical fallacy. In all
these different areas. There are those netcases out there, but
there are also reasonable people. They're saying, we need you
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guys to police your side the same way that you're
asking us to police our communities. But that doesn't seem
to be happening. And when it does, people get called
anti Semitic. I'm telling you this thing, this movement against
Israel has gone mainstream. Now that fight has been lost.
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Now you need to start making your argument with these
people and with these ideas head on and win those arguments,
win those debates. But moving to censorship is only going
to create more anti Semitism. Here was Scott Adams's response
to some of these anti Semitism laws that were getting
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pushed by Washington DC. This is a man who is
pretty reasonable, and here was his response to Washington DC
pushing these anti Semitic laws through Congress.
Speaker 9 (28:01):
I want to know the full list of what I'm
not supposed to fucking say, and I'm going to say
everything on that fucking list every day. Tell them give
me the list, give me the fucking list of what
I'm not supposed to say about Israel, about what I'm
not supposed to say about Jews, and you make that illegal,
I'm gonna say it every fucking day. And I am
anti Israel, period. I am fucking anti Israel because the
ADL I know is the ADEL doesn't work for Israel.
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But if Israel doesn't shut their fucking dog down, which
is the ADL, their little attack dog. They can shut
them down tomorrow. Shut them the fuck down. I can't
have the ADL and this lot at the same time.
I cannot have the ADL in business accusing people of
being Holocaust deniers with this particular system. Fuck Israel. Fuck Israel,
Fuck the ADL. This can't stand. If you want to
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make me fucking hate the people you want me to like,
keep doing this, keep telling me you're gonna put me
in fucking jail. Form my opinion in this case, an
opinion I didn't even hold you motherfuckers. And by the way,
if somebody votes for this, I need the whole list
of anybody in the Senate who votes for this. I
want to know if there's any fucking Republican who votes
for this. If you're a Republican in the Senate and
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you vote for this, you're my enemy. I will try
to do everything I can to get you out of office.
I will defame you in every fucking way I can
figure out how to do it. I will figure out
who your opponents are and I'll help fund them. I
will vote for a Democrat over you. If you're a
Republican and you let this get pasted, fuck you. You're
dead to me. You're dead to me. You are my enemy,
mortal enemy. And by the way, I'm fighting to stay
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in a jail. You don't think I'm gonna put some
energy into this. Fuck you, every one of you. No
this law. If this becomes a law, I'm not gonna
act the same.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I should say there in that clip, it does not
say that he does not mean the Jewish people. He
means the Israel lobby that's pushing these anti Semitic laws
through Congress. But this is a movement that you have
already lost to, and you haven't you don't even realize
it yet. You need to tackle this head on. I
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want to give you another example. Here is a TPUSA
audience responding to Tucker Carlson just recently at an Indiana
University event. Does it sound like the TPUSA audience is
against Tucker An enormous, enormous response to Tucker Carlson at
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a TPUSA event that was just like I said, recently.
Here's another example. This is a question and answer with
JD Vance regarding the United States foreign aid to Israel,
and this is the tpusa's audience's response to that question.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
I'm a Christian man, And I'm just confused why that
there's this notion that we might have, oh Israel something,
or that there are greatest ally or that we have
to support this multi hundred billion dollar foreign aid package
to Israel to cover this, to quote Charlie Kirk, ethnic
cleansing and Gaza. I'm just confused why this idea has
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come around, considering the fact that not only does their
religion not agree with ours, but also openly supports the
prosecution of ours.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Let me be that.
Speaker 10 (31:31):
There's a few things about this. First of all, when
the Prison of United States says America first, that means
that he pursues the interests of Americans first. That is
our entire foreign policy. Now, that doesn't mean that you're
not going to have alliances, that you're not going to
work with other countries from time to time. And that
is what the President believes is that Israel, sometimes they
(31:53):
have similar interests in the United States, and we're going
to work with them in that case. Sometimes they don't
have similar interests in the United States. And this example,
the most recent Gaza peace plan that all of us
have been working on very hard for the past few weeks.
The President of the United States could only get that
piece deal done by actually being willing to apply leverage
to the state of Israel. So when people say that
(32:16):
Israel is somehow manipulating or controlling the president of the
United States, they're not controlling this president of the United States,
which is one of the reasons why would be able
to have some of the success that we've had in
the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So already there you could see the tone of JD.
Vans and where he's going with that. But more importantly,
you hear the audience. You hear the audience response. That's
a TPUSA audience responding to this question in regards to
questioning America's involvement in the Middleast and foreign aid to Israel.
That is what's happening out there. There is this move
(32:51):
towards censorship, there's this move towards deplatforming Tucker Carlson. But
that is what you're facing. You've already lost that argument
and you don't even know it yet. So if you
keep moving into this censorship directly, something that we've been
trying to warn our Jewish friends for years now, do
not move into this censorship realm, because all you're going
(33:12):
to do is create more anti Semitism debate. These people
beat them in a debate because you have arguments that
you can make. There's an argument that the United States
controls Israel in a lot of these kinds of situations,
and it is us that is imposing ourselves on Israel.
That earlier clip that we played that was kind of
(33:33):
a red pill moment for Nick Flentis in regards to Trump, saying,
take it easy on the settlements. Why are we getting
involved in Israel's foreign policy or in their domestic policy.
Why are we imposing ourselves. People will make the argument, well,
because we give them money, But there's arguments there that
you should be making to these people to win the debate.
(33:54):
And time and time again, our friends from the Jewish
community are moving towards censorship. I want to play this
clip from Charlie Kirk that kind of show where his
mind was going leading up to this was pretty close
to his assassination time, where he's talking about the Jewish
community policing itself.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
And Jewish donors. They have a lot of explaining to do,
a lot of decoupling to do, because Jewish donors have
been the number one funding mechanism of radical open border, neoliberal,
quasi Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits. This is a
beast created by secular Jews, and now it's coming for
(34:39):
Jews and they're like, what on earth happened? And it's
not just the colleges, it's the nonprofits, it's the movies,
it's Hollywood, it's all of it. It's like time for
you guys to wake up and say no more. Draw
one in the sand. I don't care if you hate me.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
So that's where Charlie was at right near his assassination.
And the reason why he starts adopting some of these
things is that he's going into these youth communities and
he's seeing how the youth is responding to this issue.
This is why he started creating relationship with this Josh
Hammer guy to try to figure out how to counter
some of these arguments. But at the end of the day,
(35:14):
this is what he is seeing out there, and he's
reporting that to his Jewish donors and his Jewish friends.
You need to start policing yourself, the same kind of
policing that we're being asked of the Latin community of
illegal immigration, the same kind of policing that we're asking
the black community when it comes to black crime and
so on and so forth. You need to start addressing
(35:35):
your community and some of the policies that you guys
have been pushing and that your community has pushed, because
it's leading to sixty seven percent of voters under the
age of forty that are Jewish backing this Mom Dami
mayoral candidate in New York City, who's clearly anti Semitic,
who's a socialist, who's a communist. This is where the
(35:58):
youth is at right now. They're tired of the Israel
topic constantly saturating American media. They want to deal with tuition,
student debt, homelessness, joblessness, they want to deal with a
house affordability, They want to deal with domestic issues that
are here in the United States. Yet this issue is
(36:19):
constantly coming up, and because of that, they want just
a wholesale decoupling from Israel. Listen to the audience of TPUSA,
that is the future of America. You're hearing applause to that.
You're hearing them welcome Chucker Carlson to these events. That
doesn't get changed by censorship. All that does is draw
(36:40):
those people closer to the Nick Fuenteses of the world approach.
These people directly take on their arguments directly. Don't move
towards censorship. Make your argument and win your argument in
this marketplace of ideas. That's it for this week's edition
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
So to continue on with this story, because we're trying
to provide some context of what's happening here with this
Tucker Carlson controversy of him interviewing Nick Fuentes. And I
know there's a lot of people that feel very hot
on both sides of this conversation and at some point
understand it. I can understand why somebody would be repulsed
(01:09):
by some of the things that Nick Fuentes has said
in the past, and I could understand why someone would
be mad that people are going after Tucker Carlson for
just speaking to somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I can also understand why some people in the conservative
movement are mad at Tucker.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes. Yeah, So where we left off is is you
got this guy. He's kind of going to these events,
This Nick Foante, his groper's going to Charlie Kirk's events.
They're asking him questions kind of from the right and
challenging some of the authorized conservative consensus and trying to
(01:44):
challenge that. Things change. When Elon Musk purchases Twitter, and
I believe that was in twenty twenty two, he promises
to free the bird and bring free speech back to
the platform, and initially, very slowly things start to open up,
be able to speak a little bit more openly on
(02:05):
the platform. Then very slowly but surely, some accounts got restored.
Nick was not one of those accounts that got restored
pretty early. Alex Jones was restored before him and many others,
But eventually his account gets restored, and when that happens,
(02:25):
he pretty quickly rises in followers on Twitter, and it
kind of shows the kind of following that he built
while he was out in the woods, and the first
people to kind of engage with him, is Jeremy Boring.
It was a really interesting conversation on Spaces and Fuentes
(02:46):
kind of gave an argument as to why he was
in this digital ghetto for so long, what happened to him.
He kind of explains how he got pushed out to
the fringes by Ben Shapiro, and Jeremy Boring ends up
coming on, has a very civil conversation with Nick. I
thought that Jeremy handled it very well without kind of
(03:07):
condoning the things that Nick had said in the past.
He kind of said, you're very talented broadcaster. Nick is
obviously a very talented broadcaster. But there's this kind of
very interesting back and forth. And fast forward to Candace
Owens getting fired from you know, people will say she
isn't wasn't fired leaving the Daily Wire, and there was
(03:29):
some conflict there and Nick Fuentis ends up coming out
and in support of Candace. This was all around right
around that same time, because I think actually that space
is that Jeremy was on, Candace was already fired at
that time, and that's what that Spaces was about. So
he started he starts having some support of Candace. Nick Fuentis,
(03:52):
and then at some point he starts getting hostile with
her because she's not allowing him on her platform, and
he felt like she was kind of taking some of
his talking points in regards to some of the policies
that were being discussed by Candace. Now I should state
here to provide a little bit of a context at
this point, I mean, the Palestine attack of Israel had
(04:15):
already happened. This is after October seventh, twenty twenty three.
This is when candace Is feud with her colleagues at
the Daily Wire exploded. It got to a point to
where it was irreconcilable and they ended up breaking up.
And that was kind of the atmosphere at that time.
And at that time, I'm sure you noticed tod Adriana
(04:37):
is when people started to get very vocally against Israel
at that time, very vocally against them. I think initially
there was some pushback to some of the kind of
atrocity propaganda that was getting put out. Obviously there was
horrific things that happened in Israel during that attack, but
(04:57):
they were trying to even step it up even more
in their early reporting. We did a story on this
with the family feud. We were citing Israeli media that
was saying that some of these things were exaggerated, like
the beheading of babies, and those kinds of things ended
up getting proven wrong. But there was a lot of
conversation and people started to have animosity towards the messaging
(05:20):
that was getting out there, because a lot of us,
including myself, started feeling like we were getting on this
kind of marching into another Middle East conflict, and to
many of us, that is an area that we do
not want to enter again. Many of us have lost friends.
One of my best friends committed suicide in the wake
(05:44):
of a Middle East conflict. So we have very strong
feelings about getting involved in another Middle East war. And
so there was a lot of people talking about that.
And that's when you have guys like Dave Smith Rising,
the comedian, the libertarian comedian kind of ethnically Jewish speaking
out against this kind of conflict in Israel's approach to it,
and kind of the bombing of Gaza, some people were
(06:07):
saying that they were ethnically cleansing the area. I think
that that is a topic for another discussion. I don't
want to get into that too much, right now, but
there was a lot of kind of that going on
at that time. So Candice eventually interviews Nick Fuentis and
then Denish Desuza debates Nick Fuentis. Now we are just
a couple months ago, and he's surely definitely rising within
(06:33):
the mainstream. Nick fuents He's gone on a bunch of
other interviews at this time. He's gone on with Gavin
McGinnis a couple weeks ago as well. He's interviewing and
having debates with Dave Smith. He's going on Patrick Bett
David's show. He's definitely rising, and then Tucker Carlson interviews him. Now,
(06:54):
Tucker has an approach to these interviews that I think
can be problematic for him. He gets a little bit
softballly with some There was a bit of a softball
approach to this interview. He did the same thing with
Andrew Tate. I didn't like that he let Andrew Tate
lie to Tucker Carlson's audience and did not eventually later
(07:15):
come back and fact check some of the things that
Andrew Tate said. He did that to a certain degree,
a little bit to a lesser extent with Nickquentis, but
there was definitely some of that. I'll give you one
quick example, he explained Nick Quentis. In this interview, he
talked about how he was on the no fly list.
(07:36):
I'll play quick quick clip of that.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And I'm driving home because I'm on the no fly
list at this time. I'm driving home from Florida.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
As you, by no filists, you mean not extra scrutiny,
but like not allowed to fly on airplanes in the
United States?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Not allowed to fly?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yes, how can that? How can? How old were you?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
How was twenty three? Did you have any felony convictions?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Okay, how can I wasn't even aware that that could happen.
How long were you not allowed to flying airplanes in
the United States?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
One year?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
It's really crazy. Yeah, I was sorry. I just want
to get that out.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
No.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, it's brutal. And you can affirm that you were
not allowed to flying airplanes. Yes, I have the letter
from the TSA. Yeah, I was on the do not
board list.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Sorry, sorry to you.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
No, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
But so he kind of suggests in other forums that
the reason why he was on the no fly list
was because of his politics, because he was a banned guy.
But if you actually do some research into it, because
he sued the TSA. I believe it was to get
off the no fly list. Turns out that the reason
(08:40):
why he was on the no fly list is he
streamed something about getting in this argument with this flight
attendant and she told him to put on a mask,
and he wouldn't, and so he kinds of fantasizes about
basically strangling her.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Excuse me, could you.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Put your mask on?
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (09:00):
Yeah, And let me tell you. I'm gonna planned and
then I'm gonna get in the airport parking lot and
I'm gonna wait for you, and then I'm gonna put
an ask over your face, your mouth and nose. You
still need to be wearing the mask, even if he
can't breathe so kidding.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And then he kind of insinuates in a very kind
of jocular way that he was going to attack let's say,
flight staff and flight attendants these airplanes, and the TSA
has a zero tolerance policy for these kinds of things.
And so he got put on the on the no
(09:42):
fly list because of that. And we know that because
once he sued, they came back and provided that and
people were tagging at the FBI at that point, they
probably got aware of it. Because of that, and because
he was such a popular figure at this time within
certain circles, they decided to put him on the no
fly list. He also it apparently was not because of
his politics, but a lot of guys in this space,
(10:05):
anytime they face those kinds of situations, they try to
position themselves as political victims rather than I said some
shit that I probably shouldn't have said.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, other than being accountable.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Exactly so, and that was kind of I think where
kind of Tucker kind of goes wrong in his interviews.
But that said, he interviews him and goes into a
lot of these topics, goes into this topic of Israel,
goes into his positions, and I gotta say, for most
of this conversation it's a two hour conversation, he sounds reasonable.
(10:42):
And I think that's what freaks out so many of
the Jewish community within the conservative movement, is that this
guy sounds reasonable. And so in the wake of this,
this interview with Nick Fuents, you had Mark Levin, you
had Dave Ruben, you had this Josh Hammer guy, Like
I said, we spoke about him a couple weeks ago
(11:04):
that had a conflict with Candice Owens as the first
I've ever heard of him was at that moment he
comes out against Tucker. You have Seth Dillon from the
Babylon b all of them of Jewish, either ethnically or
religiously Jewish. They all are basically working now to blacklist
Tucker from Turning Point. They're trying to hit the points
(11:28):
that they feel like he's potentially vulnerable. They're trying to
get him either banned from a Turning Point event because
I think he is a speaker at a coming Turning
Point event, and they're trying to get the Heritage Foundation,
these huge legacy conservative organizations, to ban him from attendance.
And what we're seeing here really is this fight for
(11:51):
the heart of the conservative movement. In the wake of
Charlie Kirk's assassination. There's this void. Now, there's this vacuum,
and people are trying to fill that vacuum. I think
the Jewish conservative movement are fearful that Nick Fuentes and
Tucker Carlson are going to fill that vacuum. In particular
(12:14):
Nick fuents I think what this also is Tucker Carlson
and JD. Vance are close. They're friends. Jd Vance has
also played a very prominent role over at Turning Point.
He was, you know, carrying the casket at one point.
He's kind of he's spoken recently at one of the
Turning Point events. He's very in that position of being
(12:36):
very close with Turning Point. And JD Vance's position when
it comes to involvement in the Middle East is making
some of the conservative some of the Jewish conservative movement
fearful of advance presidency. And I think some of this stuff,
some of these attacks on Tucker is a kind of
(12:56):
a proxy attack on jd Vance or at least a
warning shot. Let's say, to Jade Evans, who is I
would say, probably the front runner for the twenty twenty
eight election, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Definitely?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
There's the kind of this power struggle happening within the
Republican and conservative movement. And this is really what we're
seeing with this Tucker Carlson outrage right now. And I
think this is where this is kind of conversation about
that I want to kind of get into and I
want to speak to our Jewish audience that is out
(13:36):
there and some people that might be kind of looking
at this moment and also wanting to cancel Tucker and
wanting to kind of purge Tucker from this from the
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need you, guys support. So what's happening here? Why are
(15:27):
people going at Tucker? And what does this kind of
say about the conservative movement right now? And I really
want to speak to maybe the group that's out there
that's kind of maybe mad at Tucker for having this
Nick Foin Desk guide on my issue. And the thing
that we've always brought up about about Israel and about
this kind of pro Israel lobby within the conservative movement
(15:50):
is they tend to move towards censorship. It tends to
be something that happens time and time again. And if
you think that Tucker Carlson can be per from the
conservative movement, you have not been paying attention. Tucker Carlson
did not mainstream Nick Fuentis, Nick Fuentess is already mainstream.
(16:15):
He could be argued, platformed and gave more exposure to
Tucker Carlson. If you actually look at Tucker Carlson's interviews
and you see the view count just on Twitter, you
look at the view count of them, the number of
people that have watched the interview with Nick Fuentis blows
(16:36):
away some of his other interviews so far. It's over
doubled Treasury Secretary Bessent, it's over doubled Ted Cruz's, or
it's about doubled Ted Cruz's interview. There's only a few
that have gotten more views than the Nick Wents interview,
and that would be the president of Iran and the
president of Russia. Okay, those are presidents of nations. Are
(17:01):
the two that got more than Nick Fuents.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Now, he did an interview with Charlie Kirk that got
a lot less.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Think he got five million, five million views. That's been
up now for about three four months. Nick Fuente's interview
has been up for days and it's and it's over
sixteen million. It's three times as many as his interview
with Charlie Kirk. Okay, this guy is already mainstream, all right, Tucker,
that's not how he rolls. He interviewed Andrew Tate because
(17:30):
Andrew Tate had a following that and this is my opinion.
Obviously I don't have any inside information on this, but
my opinion is is the reason why he interviewed Andrew
Tate is because Andrew Tate has an enormous online following
and he wanted to tap into that online following. He's
also probably pretty intrigued by some of the things that
(17:50):
Nick Fuentes had been saying, and I think there's probably
a lot that he aligns to aligns with Nick Wents
when it comes to foreign policy. But ultimately it was
not Tucker Carlson mainstreamed this man. This man had already
gotten to a level of mainstream acceptance, or at least
(18:10):
a mainstream exposure, long before Tucker Carlson ever came aboard,
and I thought that it was kind of interesting. There's
this guy. His name is Brad Colombo. He started commenting
on this. Brad Columbo is a writer for several kind
of DC outlets. I believe he's gay. I think he
left the Republican Party and he had this to say
(18:34):
Nick Fuentes one he is mainstream. Now, the year's long
effort which I participated in to gate keep the anti Semitic,
hateful freakouts of the Republican Party and Conservative movement failed.
You can object to this and leave the Republican Party
as I have, but to pretend that strict standards of
decency or integrity still exist in the modern conservative movement
(18:57):
is to delude yourself. So he pretty much there says
that they had been working on this for years to
cancel this guy, to marginalize him, to keep him out
of the mainstream conversation, but they have been unable to
do so. So my plea to the public is and
(19:18):
this is what we did when we did our Family
Feud series, was to make this argument. Don't move to
censorship because all it does is produce the streis and effect.
Everybody wants to know what this Nick Fantes guy is about. Now,
anytime you're told that you can't hear something, you want
to go there and listen to it. And this is
(19:40):
what this canceling of this man has done. It's only
created curiosity. So I think the best way to challenge
these kinds of people is to debate them on the topics.
Debate his ideas because you know, there's been a lot
of people that have been making character attacks on him,
and that's fine, I get it. You know people make
(20:02):
character attacks all the time. But the same people that
are making character attacks, you could make character attacks on them.
Perfect example, Josh Hammer, this man that just entered my
radar a couple weeks ago with this whole Candice Owen's
kind of few that happened. He not too long ago,
and on more than one occasion said this jew hatred
(20:24):
is inherent in the European DNA. He also tweeted this
europe will never change. Jew hatred is inherent in its
collective DNA. So he's basically saying that within European descendants,
that anti Semitism is literally within your DNA, within your makeup. Okay,
you can make a character attack on this man because
(20:46):
of that. You can go back to some of Ben
Shapiro's previous statements and his previous support of the conflict
in the Middle East and some of the comments that
he's made about Palestinians and about Arabs and what have you,
and make a pretty strong character attack on Ben Shapiro.
But it's not going to get you anywhere. You're going
to have to deal with this man's ideas because you
(21:10):
guys have already tried to cancel this man. You guys
have already tried to throw him into the digital ghetto.
It didn't work. It made him stronger. He's gotten bigger,
and you could cancel him, and somebody else is going
to fill that void because there's been a strong reaction
(21:32):
to the Israel lobby within the United States. There's a
huge movement within the youth movement against America's involvement with Israel,
and there's no way around that. But dealing with it
head on, you can come out and make good arguments
about why the United States should be supporting Israel without
going on and trying to cancel anybody that disagrees with you.
(21:54):
Go out there and make those arguments. But if you
continue to take this position, you're going to lose because
you've already lost this fight. You just don't know it yet.
You've already lost this fight about making some of Nick
Fuentis's ideas mainstream, because they already are mainstream. If you
look and see what's happening within the left and within
(22:16):
the right, these ideas are already being discussed right now,
and I think what a lot of people are hoping
that some of these this Jewish community does within the
conservative movement is it starts to police its own the
same way that Adriana and I, being of Mexican heritage,
speak about illegal immigration in a way that angers much
(22:40):
of the Latin community. Some of these people that have
these kind of arguments against the Israeli lobby, they want
the Jewish conservatives to police their side some of the
policies that they have taken on. I want to play
this clip for you really quickly. This is from a
Jewish journalist. She is also considers herself a mag the leftist,
(23:04):
and she is angry at the left movement for getting
behind Mom Donnie, the mayor oal candidate in New York
City and the left's position against Israel. This is batya
ungar Saragon.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
According to John Fetterman himself, his Zionism puts him out
of step with the rest of his party, which I'm
sorry only thirteen percent stand with Israelis against the Palestinians.
This is a party whose grassroots is right now captured
by the left, and so Zionism does not have a
(23:42):
future in the American left. The Democratic Party's relationship with
Zionism depends on whether it's willing to repudiate that far left.
And the thing that makes this so appalling is that
Jews built the left in this country. We built the
labor movement, we broke the New Deal. Seventy percent of
(24:04):
the lawyers who worked on civil rights cases were Jews.
We've been at the forefront of every liberal and leftist
issue in this country. The absolute hutzpah of saying you're
not welcome here. You know what it reminds me of
when they banned smoking in bars. I was a smoker,
and I was so outraged. I was like, if there's
going to be a turf wour over this, surely the
(24:26):
smokers should have gotten the bars, okay.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
And you can so easily.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Imagine a counterfactual in which the left in America said,
wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, we
can't oppose Zionism because we would leave lose our beloved
Jews who have been there with us at the forefront
every minute that we built this movement. We have to
find a way to make sure that Zionists still feel welcome.
(24:51):
How we could never do that to them, and they
didn't do that, they did the opposite.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
So right there, this woman who is considered a maga
leftist kind of explains what many these groupers and many
of these Nick Fuentes type arguments are making, is that
the Jewish community has been a big part of the
reason why the left has been taking and winning some
(25:16):
of these institutions, some of these kinds of cultural movements,
the very things that we're fighting against, the Jewish community
has been working with the left to flourish, and the
rise of somebody like mom Dami comes from some of
the policies that these people have been pushing the same
kind of policies that open borders that bring in refugees
(25:38):
that fled some of our cities with either Haitians or
with these Muslims within these New York City within the
New York City in particular, these policies have been pushed
by the Jewish left. So the same way that Adriana
and I speak about illegal immigration and about how we
need to fight against it, against our Mexican heritage, the
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same way that you have conservative blacks speaking about black crime,
the same way that you have other individuals talking about
h one Bees and the issue with h one B's
within the Indian community. You can go down the line
with each one of these ethnic communities. The Jewish community
within the conservative movement needs to police itself, and I
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think that is what you're seeing this movement that you're
seeing rising. Yes, there are a lot of fringe people
that turn to anti Semitism. Man. I fight with people
on Twitter all the time about this stuff. They're so
Jew obsessed. They blame the Jews for all of their problems.
They blame them for everything that every issue that they
have in their life, every problem is connected to the Jews,
(26:44):
whether it be the Epstein thing, whether it be Charlie
Kirk's assassination itself, they blame it on the Jews. And
I'm one of the first people to jump in their
face and say that is wrong, that's ridiculous. Your jew
obsession is making you make a logical fallacy. In all
these different areas. There are those netcases out there, but
there are also reasonable people. They're saying, we need you
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guys to police your side the same way that you're
asking us to police our communities. But that doesn't seem
to be happening. And when it does, people get called
anti Semitic. I'm telling you this thing, this movement against
Israel has gone mainstream. Now that fight has been lost.
(27:29):
Now you need to start making your argument with these
people and with these ideas head on and win those arguments,
win those debates. But moving to censorship is only going
to create more anti Semitism. Here was Scott Adams's response
to some of these anti Semitism laws that were getting
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pushed by Washington DC. This is a man who is
pretty reasonable, and here was his response to Washington DC
pushing these anti Semitic laws through Congress.
Speaker 9 (28:01):
I want to know the full list of what I'm
not supposed to fucking say, and I'm going to say
everything on that fucking list every day. Tell them give
me the list, give me the fucking list of what
I'm not supposed to say about Israel, about what I'm
not supposed to say about Jews, and you make that illegal,
I'm gonna say it every fucking day. And I am
anti Israel, period. I am fucking anti Israel because the
ADL I know is the ADEL doesn't work for Israel.
(28:23):
But if Israel doesn't shut their fucking dog down, which
is the ADL, their little attack dog. They can shut
them down tomorrow. Shut them the fuck down. I can't
have the ADL and this lot at the same time.
I cannot have the ADL in business accusing people of
being Holocaust deniers with this particular system. Fuck Israel. Fuck Israel,
Fuck the ADL. This can't stand. If you want to
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make me fucking hate the people you want me to like,
keep doing this, keep telling me you're gonna put me
in fucking jail. Form my opinion in this case, an
opinion I didn't even hold you motherfuckers. And by the way,
if somebody votes for this, I need the whole list
of anybody in the Senate who votes for this. I
want to know if there's any fucking Republican who votes
for this. If you're a Republican in the Senate and
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you vote for this, you're my enemy. I will try
to do everything I can to get you out of office.
I will defame you in every fucking way I can
figure out how to do it. I will figure out
who your opponents are and I'll help fund them. I
will vote for a Democrat over you. If you're a
Republican and you let this get pasted, fuck you. You're
dead to me. You're dead to me. You are my enemy,
mortal enemy. And by the way, I'm fighting to stay
(29:28):
in a jail. You don't think I'm gonna put some
energy into this. Fuck you, every one of you. No
this law. If this becomes a law, I'm not gonna
act the same.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I should say there in that clip, it does not
say that he does not mean the Jewish people. He
means the Israel lobby that's pushing these anti Semitic laws
through Congress. But this is a movement that you have
already lost to, and you haven't you don't even realize
it yet. You need to tackle this head on. I
(29:59):
want to give you another example. Here is a TPUSA
audience responding to Tucker Carlson just recently at an Indiana
University event. Does it sound like the TPUSA audience is
against Tucker An enormous, enormous response to Tucker Carlson at
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a TPUSA event that was just like I said, recently.
Here's another example. This is a question and answer with
JD Vance regarding the United States foreign aid to Israel,
and this is the tpusa's audience's response to that question.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
I'm a Christian man, And I'm just confused why that
there's this notion that we might have, oh Israel something,
or that there are greatest ally or that we have
to support this multi hundred billion dollar foreign aid package
to Israel to cover this, to quote Charlie Kirk, ethnic
cleansing and Gaza. I'm just confused why this idea has
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come around, considering the fact that not only does their
religion not agree with ours, but also openly supports the
prosecution of ours.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Let me be that.
Speaker 10 (31:31):
There's a few things about this. First of all, when
the Prison of United States says America first, that means
that he pursues the interests of Americans first. That is
our entire foreign policy. Now, that doesn't mean that you're
not going to have alliances, that you're not going to
work with other countries from time to time. And that
is what the President believes is that Israel, sometimes they
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have similar interests in the United States, and we're going
to work with them in that case. Sometimes they don't
have similar interests in the United States. And this example,
the most recent Gaza peace plan that all of us
have been working on very hard for the past few weeks.
The President of the United States could only get that
piece deal done by actually being willing to apply leverage
to the state of Israel. So when people say that
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Israel is somehow manipulating or controlling the president of the
United States, they're not controlling this president of the United States,
which is one of the reasons why would be able
to have some of the success that we've had in
the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So already there you could see the tone of JD.
Vans and where he's going with that. But more importantly,
you hear the audience. You hear the audience response. That's
a TPUSA audience responding to this question in regards to
questioning America's involvement in the Middleast and foreign aid to Israel.
That is what's happening out there. There is this move
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towards censorship, there's this move towards deplatforming Tucker Carlson. But
that is what you're facing. You've already lost that argument
and you don't even know it yet. So if you
keep moving into this censorship directly, something that we've been
trying to warn our Jewish friends for years now, do
not move into this censorship realm, because all you're going
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to do is create more anti Semitism debate. These people
beat them in a debate because you have arguments that
you can make. There's an argument that the United States
controls Israel in a lot of these kinds of situations,
and it is us that is imposing ourselves on Israel.
That earlier clip that we played that was kind of
(33:33):
a red pill moment for Nick Flentis in regards to Trump, saying,
take it easy on the settlements. Why are we getting
involved in Israel's foreign policy or in their domestic policy.
Why are we imposing ourselves. People will make the argument, well,
because we give them money, But there's arguments there that
you should be making to these people to win the debate.
(33:54):
And time and time again, our friends from the Jewish
community are moving towards censorship. I want to play this
clip from Charlie Kirk that kind of show where his
mind was going leading up to this was pretty close
to his assassination time, where he's talking about the Jewish
community policing itself.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
And Jewish donors. They have a lot of explaining to do,
a lot of decoupling to do, because Jewish donors have
been the number one funding mechanism of radical open border, neoliberal,
quasi Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits. This is a
beast created by secular Jews, and now it's coming for
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Jews and they're like, what on earth happened? And it's
not just the colleges, it's the nonprofits, it's the movies,
it's Hollywood, it's all of it. It's like time for
you guys to wake up and say no more. Draw
one in the sand. I don't care if you hate me.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
So that's where Charlie was at right near his assassination.
And the reason why he starts adopting some of these
things is that he's going into these youth communities and
he's seeing how the youth is responding to this issue.
This is why he started creating relationship with this Josh
Hammer guy to try to figure out how to counter
some of these arguments. But at the end of the day,
(35:14):
this is what he is seeing out there, and he's
reporting that to his Jewish donors and his Jewish friends.
You need to start policing yourself, the same kind of
policing that we're being asked of the Latin community of
illegal immigration, the same kind of policing that we're asking
the black community when it comes to black crime and
so on and so forth. You need to start addressing
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your community and some of the policies that you guys
have been pushing and that your community has pushed, because
it's leading to sixty seven percent of voters under the
age of forty that are Jewish backing this Mom Dami
mayoral candidate in New York City, who's clearly anti Semitic,
who's a socialist, who's a communist. This is where the
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youth is at right now. They're tired of the Israel
topic constantly saturating American media. They want to deal with tuition,
student debt, homelessness, joblessness, they want to deal with a
house affordability, They want to deal with domestic issues that
are here in the United States. Yet this issue is
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constantly coming up, and because of that, they want just
a wholesale decoupling from Israel. Listen to the audience of TPUSA,
that is the future of America. You're hearing applause to that.
You're hearing them welcome Chucker Carlson to these events. That
doesn't get changed by censorship. All that does is draw
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those people closer to the Nick Fuenteses of the world approach.
These people directly take on their arguments directly. Don't move
towards censorship. Make your argument and win your argument in
this marketplace of ideas. That's it for this week's edition
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of FAMBO. People look out for the Internet Dad coming
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