December 21, 2025 • 40 mins
Why is Ben Shapiro attacking Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and Megyn Kelly? We unpack the feud – and why it may be a defining moment of moral clarity.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is red pilled America.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You know, it's scientifically proven that all RPA listeners have
an IQ that's over one forty.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You know why, because I permeate and the.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
People who refuse to contemn Candice's truly vicious attacks, and
some of them are speaking here, are guilty of cowardice.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Oh he's talking to you, Tucker. I think we need
a good bee. Nobody want, none of them. Nobody wanted
of this right here.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
To hear calls for like deep platforming and denouncing people
into Charlie Kirk event.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm like, what's delirious? Harvey Weinstein being accused of rape?
You have all of his friends that didn't speak out,
And this is what Tucker Carlson had to say at
that time.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Harvey Weinstein isn't just a movie producer. He's a political
figure on the left, a personal friend to countless liberal
activists and politicians. Hillary Clinton traveling on a book tour,
she said not a single word about our old friend
Harvey Weinstein for five full days.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Tucker Carlson has clearly dropped or changed his principles since
he did that report.
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What are we going to say today that's going to
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Speaker 1 (03:44):
This is going to be our last famboogie before the
new year. So I want to think right now, I
want to wish everybody merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
Twenty twenty five has been an incredible year in many
in many measures, we have Donald Trump back in for
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a second term. That was a huge, huge win, and
I think we forget that a lot. There's a lot
of like infighting going on right now within the conservative movement,
and I don't want people to lose track of the
fact that we put a guy in office that they
were trying to put in jail for life, and we
were able to get passed and bypass the legacy media,
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bypass the deep state, however you want to call it,
the establishment, and put this man back in office. That's
something to celebrate this New Year's and we're only a
year in. We have three more years of this, and
you know, I think, as a verdict goes, I'm happy
with a lot of what he's been doing. I know
that sometimes we're critical about what he's doing, and we
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will get on him when they're spending too much time
thinking about the Middle East and too much time on
foreign wars and that kind of thing. But all in all,
look at our border right now. Our border has been
completely stopped. There's no illegal immigration coming in. We're getting
some out's. His administration needs to push on that more.
But I do think that we need to really thank
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the administration right now and not beat up so much
because when you do, you have guys like Dan Bongino
leaving the FBI, And we're going to get into some
of that today. I also want to get into amfest
that just happened right now and a little beef going
on between Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson and the whole kind
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of crew. I want to get also do a little
bit of an update on Candice Owens meets Erica Kirk
and that little battle. We want to talk a little
bit about Dan Bongino, and after we beat up some
conservative media figures, I also want to give props to
a conservative media figure and I'm going to be doing
that before the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
What are we going to say today that's going to
piss everybody off? Stay tuned, guys, because it's sure to happen.
What's that we do here at Redfield America.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Apparently we piss off our listeners.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Oh you guys, I'm sorry, but you know we do
it out of love, you know what I think.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think I've been so happy because ever since we
did the Tim Ballard documentary and the Tim Ballard investigation,
we like peeled off all of our low IQ listeners.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, that's true, and I.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Feel like now we have like a high IQ listenership
that doesn't get we don't they don't get all crazy
when we come out with some of our takes.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You know, it's scientifically proven that all our PA listeners
have an IQ that's over one forty. Oh it's genius, ike, Yeah,
it's scientifically proven.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, you know why because I permeate to all of them.
My voice is.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Just kind of you know, I don't want to put
you on the spot, so you don't have to say,
but do you know what your IQ is?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Because I know what mine is.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I think last I checked it was one sixty nine.
When something like that, I honestly have never done an
IQ test ever in my life.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Oh yeah, no, we did one, me and you did one.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I believe in those in the margins, like on the
high and the low, but in the middle part, I
don't believe that. I think there's a lot of things
with creativity that don't get captured.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Although you know, we once had our daughter tested in
a she scored nearly genius.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Did she she did? I don't doubt it. I don't
doubt it. So let's get into Let's start with this
amfest and this beef that started off like almost immediately,
and that was the thing. This is something that I
think I want to spell out to people first before
we get into this. This is a media tactic beefs,
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and it's something that goes back. I mean, we see
it in the hip hop world for years. You saw
these beef between the hip hop that the East Coast
and the West Coast rap. And it sells, it sells albums,
it sells, it gets eyeballs. And this is a lot
of what happens here between these conservative media figures. And
at times I feel like I don't want to cover
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it because of that, because I understand the game and
I understand what's happening right now that we're all being
kind of goaded into covering these things. But at the
end of the day, it is news, and I think
that we do need to talk about it, but I
want to kind of provide a little bit of context
first for that.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think we need a good beef. Nobody want none
of this. Nobody wanted this right here.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Nobody wants to beef with that had some beef. We
had some beef, and every time we just come back
pretty got guns a blazing because we had the receipts.
Unlike us.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
You know what, I never I never met a beef.
I didn't win. You know what.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
There I've been We've been bloodied though a couple of
times we've been blooded pretty bad. But I think ultimately, uh.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I've never been bloodied. Speak for yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, all right, but first let's let's start off with
this Ben Shapiro speech. I want to just play a
couple of seconds of it because he goes pretty hard
at Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson. And this is kind
of the reason why I get angry with Megan Kelly
and Tucker Carlson is because at times they make me
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side with Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Now we're now here, we are defending Ben Shapiro, and
if anyone that's listened to this show knows there's there's
Oftentimes I don't liigne with this guy, but he says
some things that they're a little bit self serving, but
at the same time they're right.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And I want to play a segment because it leads
into this Tucker Carlson speech at Amfest.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This country relies on truth because victory, true, real lasting
victory cannot be achieved without truth. Victory without truth is
victory for a lie, and that is no victory at all.
And unity without truth is no unity. It is merely
solidarity and falsehood. But today I want to talk about
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something even more important, how to discern those attempting to
speak truth from frauds and grifters. We must not let
fear of audience deter us from telling the truth. We
must not let fear of other hosts deter us from
telling the truth. So we don't have that example, candis
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every day since the murder of Charlie currth.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Okay, listen to that crowd. He's got the crowd.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You've got the crowd.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
If Candice Owens decides to spend every day since the
murder of Charlie Kirk casting aspersions at TPUSA and the
people who work here, who worked with Charlie every single day,
his best friends, to cast aspersions at Mikey McCoy and
Andrew Colvin and Blake Neff and Tyler Boyer and yes
at Erica Kirk, and to imply or outright claim complicity
in a cover up over Charlie's murder, to spew absolutely
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baseless trash implicating everyone from French intelligence to Masad to
members of TPUSA in Charlie's murder or a cover up
in that murder. Then we as people with a microphone,
have a moral obligation to call that out by name.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Okay, he's got the crowd, and he's right right, Because
here's the thing, what are we doing if we're not
calling people out? That is what conservative media personalities do.
They literally make a living doing that. They literally that
is all they do is talk about the left, talk
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about the you know, aocs of the world, beat up
on Harvey Weinstein when he gets in trouble. I mean,
that is all they do is talk about these kinds
of moral you know, clarity issues. And this one was
so clearly a moral clarity issue. Here you had people
directly implicating with no evidence, TPUSA and Erica Kirk in
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the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and he is about to
get into it right now and really kind of lay
into those that don't have that moral courage.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Erica Kirk and TPUSA never should have been put in
the position to have to defend themselves against such specious
and evil attacks, particularly in the time of morning. And
the people who refuse to contempn Candace's truly vicious attacks,
and some of them are speaking here, are guilty of cowardice.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oo. Yes, cowardice is talking to.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
You, Tucker. He's talking to you, Tucker.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Them fighting words.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
The fact that they have said nothing, well, Candace has
been vomiting all sorts of hideous and conspiratorial nonsense into
the public square for years is just as cowardly. So no,
Tucker Carlson, it is not an excuse to go silence
on Candace's targeting of TPUSA.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Here we go, wow.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
An audience, it's with.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Him, or to mirror her bullshit lines of questioning because
you love Candace personally. The same holds true of Megan Kelly,
a person I consider a friend, characterizing Candace as a
young mother and thus shying away from condemning her actions.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Or feeling about them.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That is a non starter. Megan Markle is a young mother.
Ilhan Omar is a young mother. That doesn't matter. And
when Megan said this week, quote, my goal and my
job here is to try to understand, yes, where Candace
is coming from on this, And so she sees no
purpose in inserting herself quotes into this. On one side,
that is a moral and logical absurdity. There is only
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one moral side here, Erica Kirk's side one.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So he goes on from there, you get the drift.
He's calling them out by name, Tucker Carlson and Megan
Kelly for their cowardice in not condemning the words and
the behavior of Candace Owens in regards to her quote
unquote investigation, her lousy, sloppy, ridiculous investigation. And I gotta
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say it makes me so pissed off at Tucker and
Megan because I agreed with almost every word that he
said there. And I can't stand Ben Shapiro. I mean,
the guy has said some things and done some things
throughout his career that I find, you know, appalling, but
he's nailing it here. Now he goes on what he's
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basically arguing here is that there needs to be a
boundary or border on acceptable conversation within the conservative movement,
or if we just let any conversation happen, then what
is conservatism if there's no kind of boundary there. And
one main boundary of conservatism is truth. And one of
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the main purposes of alternative media has been to replace
the lying legacy media. And so if you have alternative
media hosts, it's one thing to get a couple of
things wrong here and there. But when you have somebody
for three months going directly at Erica Kirk, a widow,
and going at TPUSA executives, accusing them of being complicit
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in the death and the murder, the horrific murder of
their leader with no evidence, that needs to be called doubt.
And that is why what Ben is doing here right
there now. He wants to draw the lines into a
certain place to where we can't speak to certain people
that he might view as anti Israel or anti Semitic,
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And in there, when that topic comes up, we would,
you know, call him on that. But what he's talking
about right now, it is so clear, it is so
clear that what Candice has been doing is just straight
up evil. So he goes at Tucker Carlson for a
while and as you could see there, the crowd was
completely with him there. I mean there was I mean,
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did you hear booze when he brought up Tucker Carlson
or Megan Kelly? He was there was no booing going on.
They were cheering him on. Well, Tucker comes out after
him at some point and responds kind of immediately, and
my opinion is is that he probably threw out his speech.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Because you think he just started from scratch.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I think he started from scratch or just kind of
just wanted to address some of this because Ben Shapiro
did the destroys thing that the oec on kind of
like the YouTube titles, people forget about how sharp and
smart this guy is and how quick witted he is.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
He's very quick witted. By the way. I also have
to say, he looks great.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And he is very great. He's strong. You could disagree
with him about a lot of things, but ultimately he
has principle and you cannot align with those principles. But
he does have principles, and in this case it's just
so clear.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So you know, before we go any Further, I do
want to say, you know, to the audience, I think
for so many years we were on the defense, and
we sort of, I think, took this position that we
didn't want to attack anybody, you know, within our own ranks.
But at the end of the day, I think Ben
really got this right. Right is right and wrong is wrong,
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and if somebody on your side is doing something that
is so horrific, so evil, I believe that every single
one of this on this planet has the duty to
call those people out. I really truly and do believe that.
I believe that for the conservative movement. I believe that
in your personal life.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But Tucker responds to this, and I gotta say it
was kind of there was moments where it was just
like super shocking. And also I felt like I was
like watching a liberal speak up there because he was
using some of the same kind of shame tactics. But
here he is kind of immediately right from the get
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go going at Ben.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I just got here, and I feel like I missed
the first part of the program. Hope I didn't miss
anything meaningful, but I just want to say I don't
think I did. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I watched it. I laughed.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I laughed, that kind of bitter, sardonic laugh that emerges
from you and like upside down world arrives when your
dogs start doing your taxes and you're like, wait, it's
not supposed to work this way. To hear calls for
like deep platforming and denouncing people to Charlie.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Kirk Evan, I'm like, what is that's hilarious? That?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Cickets?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Crickets? Is what you heard? There? There was There wasn't
like year, there was no big cheer to that. And
that's because he's setting up a straw man right now.
What he's doing is is trying to make it seem like, oh,
we're trying to deep platform or trying to cancel people,
or we're doing the same thing that the left is doing.
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He's setting up a straw man. No, that's not what
we're doing. We're asking you to do what you have
been doing for twenty years on air, which you have
made your living, which which we have propped you up
into the number one conservative speaker in America. Your audience
has done that because you speak out with moral clarity
in times that you need to speak out with moral clarity,
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and he is he's going on this completely like you
know anti you know, cancel culture thing, and that is
not the case here. So he goes on, Yeah, this
is hilarious.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Actually one of the clips I was listening to myself thinking,
as I often do when I hear myself speak, which
is never because I never watched myself, But at these
events they always play like the role of you, and
I'm like.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
That guy is pompous.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Whoop?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Sorry about that. We don't see ourselves clearly. But the
prediction that you know, at some point when Republicans took
power again, which I did everything I could, you know,
to help, and really felt that was important. I still think,
you know, I was right, But I really thought that
the impulse to deep platform people or even to use
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the word platform as a verb, which it's not.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
It's a noun.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Don't steal my nouns. Deep platform and denounce why haven't
you denounced somebody else? The whole like red guard cultural
revolution thing that we so hated and fear on the
left that we did everything we could to usher in
a new time where you could have an actual debate.
I mean, this kind of was the whole point of
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Charlie Kirk's public life, and I think that I think
that he died for it. I really believe that, and
I know a lot about it because the last several
months of Charlie's life were devoted, in part to arguing
about this event, in fact, this speech, in fact my
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speech here, which he asked me to do earlier this year,
this summer, and was immediately put under just immense pressure
from people who give money to turning point. I would
assume good people, but who wanted him to take me
off the roster. And this has all become public and
the whole thing is so said that I never talked
about it except to say Charlie stood firm in his
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often stated and deeply held belief that people should be
able to debate, and that if you have something valid
to say, if you're telling the truth, you ought to
be able to explain it calmly and in detail to
people who don't agree with you, and that you shouldn't
immediately resort to shut up racist, You shouldn't immediately.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Go to motive. By the way, shut up.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Racist is the number one reason I voted for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
What is he talking about, like, shut up race? What
is he talking about right now, who's saying, shut up racist.
Not a single person is saying that. What people are
saying is is that you need to speak out when
somebody is falsely accusing somebody of murder okay, and is
going after the widow of something someone and accusing her
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of murder, and that you should be speaking out about that.
That nobody's talking about shut up racist. But he's going
on these tangents right now. Now he goes, he gets
into some other parts that really expose, like this shocking hypocrisy,
and I want to get into that. Right after the break,
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you're listening to fam Boogie, Red Pilled America's fam Boogie,
and we are talking about the Amfest and the beef,
the hip hop beef between Ben Shapiro on one side
and Candice Owen's, Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson on the other.
We got one guy on this side, and we got
three on the other side. And the one guy on
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the I can't believe I'm saying this. The one guy
on the other side is has the moral clarity, and
the three people on the other side that are trying
to hold on to audience capture or are captured by
their audience have no moral clarity. So we're going over
Tucker's speech at Amfest, and one of the themes that
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you kind of start to see play out is is
that the crowd is definitely more with Ben Shapiro. But
Tucker has just like completely dropped the ball on this.
He's speaking at an event and he's defending a woman
that has been going at the widow the CEO of
this event for three almost three months, okay, and he's
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arguing as to why he should not be why he
should be forced to go at her. So he went
on with his speech, and I want to play a
little bit more of that here.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I mean, first of all, if I was a racist,
if I was a big and I would just say, so, okay,
it's America. You're allowed to be whatever kind of person
you want.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
I'm sincerely opposed, have always been and will always be.
But the style of debate where you prevent the other
side from talking or being heard because you immediately go
to motive, well, I wonder why you're asking that question.
I wonder why why are you asking that question?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I detect in the question.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
A certain evil in your soul, and everyone listening should
know that listening to you implicates them, and did they
someday may be asked to denounce you, and that friendship
is not a reason to defend someone.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Love is no defense.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Nobody's laughing. So he goes on from there, and he
the argument that he starts to make is that he
is he uses this analogy that he would not go
at his brother and not publicly denounce his brother if
his brother went on a murdering spree. And this is
where it just kind of goes off the rails.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
For me, if my brother went on a drug related
murder spree, I would not denounce him.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
What are you for? Drug related murder spree? Isn't knowing
for my brother.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
And nothing will ever make me not for my brother.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
So think about this for a second. He's standing on
the stage of Charlie Kirk's legacy, Charlie Kirk, who was
murdered by a man. And how did they catch this man?
They caught him because his parents came forward because they
recognized him in the videos that were being released by
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the FBI. They decided they needed to turn in their
own son because he had created he had done this
horrific murder. And now you have Tucker Carlson standing on
the stage of Charlie Kirk's legacy basically saying that he
was in the same situation, he wouldn't have done that.
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He's saying that in so many words, well.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
He wants you to believe that denouncing bad behavior and
counsel culture are the same thing, which they are not,
not even remotely close.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And everybody knows that, Tucker.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Everyone knows that, and so he's setting up this straw man.
And the fascinating thing is is that is when you
start to delve into the hypocrisy of it. Because there
was a time when Tucker was kind of one of
those guys that got you know, at every instance he
would go at people that were his political enemies. And
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one of those times was when Harvey Weinstein was accused
of rape a bunch of women in twenty seventeen. In
October twenty seventeen, this story came out and it was
the talk of media where you had Harvey Weinstein being
accused of rape, and you have all of his friends
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that didn't speak out. And this is what Tucker Carlson
had to say at that time.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Harvey Weinstein isn't just a movie producer. He's a political
figure on the left, a major donor to the Democratic Party,
a personal friend to countless liberal activists and politicians, all
of which helps explain why the reaction from self described
defenders of women has been so muted. For the days
after the story broke, democrats in Hollywood and Washington seemed
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to freeze, unsure of what to say, hoping the whole
thing would just die down and go away.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
It hasn't.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Those actors who lecture you from the Oscar podium every
year about their virtue and your lack of it suddenly silent.
Hillary Clinton, traveling on a book tour whose whole purpose
is to call of sexism in American society, she said
not a single word about our old friend Harvey Weinstein
for five full days.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So there you have it. He is, you know, kind
of on display, hypocrisy on display. And this was the thing.
He wanted these people to speak out and condemn this
man who still had the presumption of innocence. He wasn't
in jail, you know, there was nothing that was concrete.
He hadn't been through a court system, and he hadn't
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been sued by these people and found guilty at this time.
There was no reason for him to take that position
then and take a different position now. Tucker Carlson has
clearly dropped or changed his principles since he did that
report on Harvey Weinstein, because it wasn't clear that Harvey
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Weinstein was guilty at that time. It is very clear
what Candice Owens was doing and has been doing to
Erica Kirk and TPUSA as a vendetta with them. What
many people don't even talk about is her blexit that
she used to have. She basically had to give it
up to TPUSA because of the course of the last
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couple of years of it, it was draining. It was
just spilling money out one point seven million here, a
million there, and she was still paying herself two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars in saying that she was working
thirty hours a week while she was doing her podcast,
which sounds a little bit off. She's had some kind
of old associates come forward and say, ah, that's kind
(28:35):
of weird. I don't remember her working thirty hours a
week on this project as she was doing her podcast.
So you know it is he's setting up this straw man.
He's trying to make this kind of analogy with his
brother and him not condemning what Candice Owens has been
doing to TPUSA for the last three months.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Maybe he just doesn't want to suffer the wrath of
her audience, because I will tell you that they are
I mean, my gosh, not only are they retarded, but
they will they will come at you because they have
been coming at us on YouTube, you guys, so we
need the family.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I have to go on YouTube and a fight back.
That's them back. I mean, they're not that smart, so
you don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But uh true.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You know, maybe I think at the end of the day,
a lot of it does have to do with audience capture.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I do. I think most of it does. I think
most of it has to do with audience capture. And
I'll give some proof on that a little bit later.
So Tucker went on, he starts talking about he goes
on this crazy tangent about Islam. And this is where
he starts to sound like a New York Times editor
or New York Times writer because he starts to accuse
(29:45):
the you know, I guess the conservative movement because that's
what he's talking who he's talking to for attacking Muslims,
just kind of out of the blue. Here he goes,
and what you're watching.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Now attacking people on the attacking millions of Americans because
they're Muslims.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's just and I'm a Christian.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I'm not a Muslim.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I'm gonna I know there's a lot of effort to
claim I'm a secret gee Hoti, I'm not. You should
not attack people on those grounds. And you're seeing it
from Republic. What the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Total crickets there, Total crickets. Nobody is kind of responding
to what he has to say. Theres well and think
about this for a second. This is on the heels
just this last week in Australia of too Muslim, a
father and son shooting and killing a bunch of people
on a beach in Australia. FBI just announced that they
(30:37):
broke up a team of four that were planning a
terrorist attack on New Year's Eve Muslims. So you know
you're starting, is this this weird path that he's going
down right now? And I used to kind of think
that this that whole Tucker Catarlsen, you know, slur that's
been thrown at him was just kind of petty, but
(31:00):
I'm starting to say, like, what's going on here? I mean,
the guy just bought property in Qatar. He kind of
announced it while he was in Qatar a cup I
think it was a couple of weeks ago or so.
It was so stoked about it. This is a guy
that was just a couple months ago talking about how
you know, he's an American, his family's been here for
(31:20):
four hundred years. They've burned the boats behind them, and
you know he's out there fly fishing, you know, you know,
and looking like this American fly fisher going out there
and everything. And now he's going out and he's simping
for you know, Islam. What people are concerned about is
what these people are doing in other countries. You're seeing
(31:42):
it happen in the UK and in London, you're seeing
it happen in France. And here's the fascinating thing about it.
He just made this argument on with Pierce Morgan just
a couple of days ago, where he was in London,
and he makes this argument that there are too many
basically brown people coming into London. He's referring to Muslims,
(32:05):
but he's making this argument that that that the whites
are getting replaced in London, and they're getting replaced obviously
by Muslims.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Britain voluntarily joined the war. It was a war that
you were not involved in, and you got in. But
my question is why did it destroy Britain. I don't
understand as the victor name destroyed, didn't destroy Britain.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Well, look outside, look in the city of London. Let's
Tower Bridge. It's the Tower of London, magnificent. Well it
changed London.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Why do you look at this and.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
See a wrecked country? I don't, Well, I don't see
an English country. So we're in the city. What do
you mean by that?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
It's not Well, people whose ancestors build stonehengs are not
here anymore. So the city of London is thirty six
percent white, and that's happened in the last I don't
know forty years.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
But England is about seventy England Okay, Well it was
not it was ninety nineteen forty five. Okay, So we've evolved,
but you're on the way to becoming the minority in
the country. So no one wants to say that. I
think you can get arrested for saying that.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Here.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
So white supremacy is the redigenous population of the country.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
It's a statistical fact that I think by two thousand,
one hundred we will be a minority white.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Country twenty sixty three as of today. But these are
dynamic numbers, so they change.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Here's my question of you, So what okay? So there
he is making this argument with Piers Morgan that was
just a couple of weeks ago. He's talking about basically,
the fabric of London and the fabric of the UK
has changed, and the same thing is happening in France,
and so that's what people are talking about. They're talking
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about on the heels of this attack that they just
saw happen in Australia where all of these people were
just shot down for being Jewish by a father and
son jihadi group. And then they're also talking about the
FBI coming forward and saying that they had to break
up another terrorist attack. People are concerned that if you
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bring those elements into the United States, that we are
going to become London and we are going to become France.
It's not that difficult. So why does he go off
on this tangent and.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
So so hard.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Disgusting, disgusting, and nobody was responding. It was cricket. He's
losing the crowd there, he is leaving, and people are
feeling it. And I think that there's this fight going
on for this soul. And we've talked about this now
for weeks months now, this fight going on for the
soul of the conservative movement, and he is just going
(34:40):
off on this strange tangent. I think he's trying to
make an argument that a coalition can be made with
these kinds of you know, Muslims and with these kinds
of Islam followers. And I think there's been many people
that I have seen that have made a very cogent
argument that sharia law and kind of the Islam movement
(35:02):
is not compatible with the Western civilization. And those arguments
have held, and we're seeing that they don't want to assimilate.
They don't want to assimilate to the Western culture. There
are some obviously some great Muslims out there and great
Islam followers out there, and there are some attributes of
(35:24):
their religion that we should look to and say, wow,
you guys really have a handle on this. You guys
really have a very conservative approach to family and to
building family and to protecting yourself against the LTGBTQ community,
those kinds of things, but to basically chastise conservatives for
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being afraid that we are going to bring more of
that element in that hates us. They hate us, So
why are you going to bring those refugees in here?
That's not hate, that is people concerned with the American fabric.
We have enough people here they hate America. We don't
need to bring more of those people in. And for
Tucker Carlson to take this position that you are hateful
(36:07):
because you are concerned by that, he's setting up another
straw man. And this is why you don't go in.
You write a speech, and then throw it away when
you step to the to the microphone. He got completely flustered.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
He got taken off his game, he got derailed, he
got taken off his game.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And he is kind of like the ring leader now
of this anti Israel faction of the right. You saw
that when in the pictures that were kind of coming
out during his Christmas party that was recently in Tennessee.
I believe that it was in my have been in Nashville.
There was a quote unquote, you know, Tucker Carlson Christmas
party that was held out there, and you had basically,
(36:49):
you know, a lot of these anti Israel you know players.
You had Candice Owens, you had uh Marjorie Taylor Green there,
you had Jason Whitlock there, and and they were all
kind of like circling and hoveling around, helding around Candice Owens.
And so I think that they're trying to kind of,
(37:09):
I don't know, wipe out this Jewish conservative faction within
the conservative movement. I think it's a you know, they're
going to lose that battle. And that's not to say
that I don't think that there are some things that
need to be debated in regards to getting involved in
any more Middle Eastern wars, in regards to foreign aid
(37:30):
to some of these wars, in regards to making this
Islamic community hate us more by being involved in these wars.
Those are all valid conversations and valid debates. But for
him to basically go up there and play MSNBC and
shame Conservatives and Republicans for being concerned of bringing these
people in that hate us, I just think is just
(37:53):
something that shows that he's losing his way right now.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I think he knew exactly what he was doing in
many ways.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
This is why I really think that whole Tucker Qatar
it's kind of landing. Now. You're seeing this kind of
approach that he's taking right now, and you're starting to
wonder what is going on here? Is there something going
on behind the scenes? Is there money flowing in? You know,
it was one of these kinds of things. A lot
of people have been talking about this Katar money coming
(38:20):
into conservative media and accusing basically anybody that's anti Israel
of taking some of that money, and you have to
start thinking, is there something going on with this whole
Katarlsen slur that's being thrown at him.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
You know, last week we got a lot of accusations
that we were taking money from Israel. We a lot
a lot of accusations, and I just want to make
something very very clear. We have never taken a dime
from Israel. In fact, we turned down money from them. Yes, okay,
let me be clear about that. And now I'm regretting it.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Okay, Yeah, we're.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Gonna get accused of it.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, I could have a burkin, but yeah, we've never
taken money from Israel.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
No, no money from guitar and no money from.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Anybody except our audience and our show sponsors. Okay, yeah,
so let's just be clear about that, so you know,
stop with your stupid accusations and go your retards.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I think retard might be my.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Favorite word, So I will say I agree with you.
I like the word retard and because it fits so
much for the next audience that we're about to talk to,
and that is Candace Owens' audience. So I want to
get into where all this came from. Why did this
fight kind of break out between Tucker Carlson and Ben
(39:40):
Shapiro that goes back quite some time, but what did
this specific fight come from? And it came from the
Candace Owens and Erica Kirk meeting of the minds, and
we want to get into that in part two. Join
us over there right now.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
See you over there, guys.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Post st
This is red pilled America.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You know, it's scientifically proven that all RPA listeners have
an IQ that's over one forty.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You know why, because I permeate and the.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
People who refuse to contemn Candice's truly vicious attacks, and
some of them are speaking here, are guilty of cowardice.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Oh he's talking to you, Tucker. I think we need
a good bee. Nobody want, none of them. Nobody wanted
of this right here.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
To hear calls for like deep platforming and denouncing people
into Charlie Kirk event.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm like, what's delirious? Harvey Weinstein being accused of rape?
You have all of his friends that didn't speak out,
And this is what Tucker Carlson had to say at
that time.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Harvey Weinstein isn't just a movie producer. He's a political
figure on the left, a personal friend to countless liberal
activists and politicians. Hillary Clinton traveling on a book tour,
she said not a single word about our old friend
Harvey Weinstein for five full days.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Tucker Carlson has clearly dropped or changed his principles since
he did that report.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
What are we going to say today that's going to
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Speaker 1 (03:44):
This is going to be our last famboogie before the
new year. So I want to think right now, I
want to wish everybody merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
Twenty twenty five has been an incredible year in many
in many measures, we have Donald Trump back in for
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a second term. That was a huge, huge win, and
I think we forget that a lot. There's a lot
of like infighting going on right now within the conservative movement,
and I don't want people to lose track of the
fact that we put a guy in office that they
were trying to put in jail for life, and we
were able to get passed and bypass the legacy media,
(04:25):
bypass the deep state, however you want to call it,
the establishment, and put this man back in office. That's
something to celebrate this New Year's and we're only a
year in. We have three more years of this, and
you know, I think, as a verdict goes, I'm happy
with a lot of what he's been doing. I know
that sometimes we're critical about what he's doing, and we
(04:46):
will get on him when they're spending too much time
thinking about the Middle East and too much time on
foreign wars and that kind of thing. But all in all,
look at our border right now. Our border has been
completely stopped. There's no illegal immigration coming in. We're getting
some out's. His administration needs to push on that more.
But I do think that we need to really thank
(05:09):
the administration right now and not beat up so much
because when you do, you have guys like Dan Bongino
leaving the FBI, And we're going to get into some
of that today. I also want to get into amfest
that just happened right now and a little beef going
on between Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson and the whole kind
(05:29):
of crew. I want to get also do a little
bit of an update on Candice Owens meets Erica Kirk
and that little battle. We want to talk a little
bit about Dan Bongino, and after we beat up some
conservative media figures, I also want to give props to
a conservative media figure and I'm going to be doing
that before the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
What are we going to say today that's going to
piss everybody off? Stay tuned, guys, because it's sure to happen.
What's that we do here at Redfield America.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Apparently we piss off our listeners.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Oh you guys, I'm sorry, but you know we do
it out of love, you know what I think.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think I've been so happy because ever since we
did the Tim Ballard documentary and the Tim Ballard investigation,
we like peeled off all of our low IQ listeners.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, that's true, and I.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Feel like now we have like a high IQ listenership
that doesn't get we don't they don't get all crazy
when we come out with some of our takes.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You know, it's scientifically proven that all our PA listeners
have an IQ that's over one forty. Oh it's genius, ike, Yeah,
it's scientifically proven.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, you know why because I permeate to all of them.
My voice is.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Just kind of you know, I don't want to put
you on the spot, so you don't have to say,
but do you know what your IQ is?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Because I know what mine is.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I think last I checked it was one sixty nine.
When something like that, I honestly have never done an
IQ test ever in my life.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Oh yeah, no, we did one, me and you did one.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I believe in those in the margins, like on the
high and the low, but in the middle part, I
don't believe that. I think there's a lot of things
with creativity that don't get captured.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Although you know, we once had our daughter tested in
a she scored nearly genius.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Did she she did? I don't doubt it. I don't
doubt it. So let's get into Let's start with this
amfest and this beef that started off like almost immediately,
and that was the thing. This is something that I
think I want to spell out to people first before
we get into this. This is a media tactic beefs,
(07:23):
and it's something that goes back. I mean, we see
it in the hip hop world for years. You saw
these beef between the hip hop that the East Coast
and the West Coast rap. And it sells, it sells albums,
it sells, it gets eyeballs. And this is a lot
of what happens here between these conservative media figures. And
at times I feel like I don't want to cover
(07:45):
it because of that, because I understand the game and
I understand what's happening right now that we're all being
kind of goaded into covering these things. But at the
end of the day, it is news, and I think
that we do need to talk about it, but I
want to kind of provide a little bit of context
first for that.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think we need a good beef. Nobody want none
of this. Nobody wanted this right here.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Nobody wants to beef with that had some beef. We
had some beef, and every time we just come back
pretty got guns a blazing because we had the receipts.
Unlike us.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
You know what, I never I never met a beef.
I didn't win. You know what.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
There I've been We've been bloodied though a couple of
times we've been blooded pretty bad. But I think ultimately, uh.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I've never been bloodied. Speak for yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, all right, but first let's let's start off with
this Ben Shapiro speech. I want to just play a
couple of seconds of it because he goes pretty hard
at Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson. And this is kind
of the reason why I get angry with Megan Kelly
and Tucker Carlson is because at times they make me
(08:49):
side with Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Now we're now here, we are defending Ben Shapiro, and
if anyone that's listened to this show knows there's there's
Oftentimes I don't liigne with this guy, but he says
some things that they're a little bit self serving, but
at the same time they're right.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And I want to play a segment because it leads
into this Tucker Carlson speech at Amfest.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This country relies on truth because victory, true, real lasting
victory cannot be achieved without truth. Victory without truth is
victory for a lie, and that is no victory at all.
And unity without truth is no unity. It is merely
solidarity and falsehood. But today I want to talk about
(09:34):
something even more important, how to discern those attempting to
speak truth from frauds and grifters. We must not let
fear of audience deter us from telling the truth. We
must not let fear of other hosts deter us from
telling the truth. So we don't have that example, candis
(09:58):
every day since the murder of Charlie currth.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Okay, listen to that crowd. He's got the crowd.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You've got the crowd.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
If Candice Owens decides to spend every day since the
murder of Charlie Kirk casting aspersions at TPUSA and the
people who work here, who worked with Charlie every single day,
his best friends, to cast aspersions at Mikey McCoy and
Andrew Colvin and Blake Neff and Tyler Boyer and yes
at Erica Kirk, and to imply or outright claim complicity
in a cover up over Charlie's murder, to spew absolutely
(10:33):
baseless trash implicating everyone from French intelligence to Masad to
members of TPUSA in Charlie's murder or a cover up
in that murder. Then we as people with a microphone,
have a moral obligation to call that out by name.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Okay, he's got the crowd, and he's right right, Because
here's the thing, what are we doing if we're not
calling people out? That is what conservative media personalities do.
They literally make a living doing that. They literally that
is all they do is talk about the left, talk
(11:11):
about the you know, aocs of the world, beat up
on Harvey Weinstein when he gets in trouble. I mean,
that is all they do is talk about these kinds
of moral you know, clarity issues. And this one was
so clearly a moral clarity issue. Here you had people
directly implicating with no evidence, TPUSA and Erica Kirk in
(11:34):
the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and he is about to
get into it right now and really kind of lay
into those that don't have that moral courage.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Erica Kirk and TPUSA never should have been put in
the position to have to defend themselves against such specious
and evil attacks, particularly in the time of morning. And
the people who refuse to contempn Candace's truly vicious attacks,
and some of them are speaking here, are guilty of cowardice.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oo. Yes, cowardice is talking to.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
You, Tucker. He's talking to you, Tucker.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Them fighting words.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
The fact that they have said nothing, well, Candace has
been vomiting all sorts of hideous and conspiratorial nonsense into
the public square for years is just as cowardly. So no,
Tucker Carlson, it is not an excuse to go silence
on Candace's targeting of TPUSA.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Here we go, wow.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
An audience, it's with.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Him, or to mirror her bullshit lines of questioning because
you love Candace personally. The same holds true of Megan Kelly,
a person I consider a friend, characterizing Candace as a
young mother and thus shying away from condemning her actions.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Or feeling about them.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That is a non starter. Megan Markle is a young mother.
Ilhan Omar is a young mother. That doesn't matter. And
when Megan said this week, quote, my goal and my
job here is to try to understand, yes, where Candace
is coming from on this, And so she sees no
purpose in inserting herself quotes into this. On one side,
that is a moral and logical absurdity. There is only
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one moral side here, Erica Kirk's side one.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So he goes on from there, you get the drift.
He's calling them out by name, Tucker Carlson and Megan
Kelly for their cowardice in not condemning the words and
the behavior of Candace Owens in regards to her quote
unquote investigation, her lousy, sloppy, ridiculous investigation. And I gotta
(13:47):
say it makes me so pissed off at Tucker and
Megan because I agreed with almost every word that he
said there. And I can't stand Ben Shapiro. I mean,
the guy has said some things and done some things
throughout his career that I find, you know, appalling, but
he's nailing it here. Now he goes on what he's
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basically arguing here is that there needs to be a
boundary or border on acceptable conversation within the conservative movement,
or if we just let any conversation happen, then what
is conservatism if there's no kind of boundary there. And
one main boundary of conservatism is truth. And one of
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the main purposes of alternative media has been to replace
the lying legacy media. And so if you have alternative
media hosts, it's one thing to get a couple of
things wrong here and there. But when you have somebody
for three months going directly at Erica Kirk, a widow,
and going at TPUSA executives, accusing them of being complicit
(14:55):
in the death and the murder, the horrific murder of
their leader with no evidence, that needs to be called doubt.
And that is why what Ben is doing here right
there now. He wants to draw the lines into a
certain place to where we can't speak to certain people
that he might view as anti Israel or anti Semitic,
(15:15):
And in there, when that topic comes up, we would,
you know, call him on that. But what he's talking
about right now, it is so clear, it is so
clear that what Candice has been doing is just straight
up evil. So he goes at Tucker Carlson for a
while and as you could see there, the crowd was
completely with him there. I mean there was I mean,
(15:38):
did you hear booze when he brought up Tucker Carlson
or Megan Kelly? He was there was no booing going on.
They were cheering him on. Well, Tucker comes out after
him at some point and responds kind of immediately, and
my opinion is is that he probably threw out his speech.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Because you think he just started from scratch.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I think he started from scratch or just kind of
just wanted to address some of this because Ben Shapiro
did the destroys thing that the oec on kind of
like the YouTube titles, people forget about how sharp and
smart this guy is and how quick witted he is.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
He's very quick witted. By the way. I also have
to say, he looks great.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And he is very great. He's strong. You could disagree
with him about a lot of things, but ultimately he
has principle and you cannot align with those principles. But
he does have principles, and in this case it's just
so clear.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So you know, before we go any Further, I do
want to say, you know, to the audience, I think
for so many years we were on the defense, and
we sort of, I think, took this position that we
didn't want to attack anybody, you know, within our own ranks.
But at the end of the day, I think Ben
really got this right. Right is right and wrong is wrong,
(16:56):
and if somebody on your side is doing something that
is so horrific, so evil, I believe that every single
one of this on this planet has the duty to
call those people out. I really truly and do believe that.
I believe that for the conservative movement. I believe that
in your personal life.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But Tucker responds to this, and I gotta say it
was kind of there was moments where it was just
like super shocking. And also I felt like I was
like watching a liberal speak up there because he was
using some of the same kind of shame tactics. But
here he is kind of immediately right from the get
(17:36):
go going at Ben.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I just got here, and I feel like I missed
the first part of the program. Hope I didn't miss
anything meaningful, but I just want to say I don't
think I did. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I watched it. I laughed.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I laughed, that kind of bitter, sardonic laugh that emerges
from you and like upside down world arrives when your
dogs start doing your taxes and you're like, wait, it's
not supposed to work this way. To hear calls for
like deep platforming and denouncing people to Charlie.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Kirk Evan, I'm like, what is that's hilarious? That?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Cickets?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Crickets? Is what you heard? There? There was There wasn't
like year, there was no big cheer to that. And
that's because he's setting up a straw man right now.
What he's doing is is trying to make it seem like, oh,
we're trying to deep platform or trying to cancel people,
or we're doing the same thing that the left is doing.
(18:39):
He's setting up a straw man. No, that's not what
we're doing. We're asking you to do what you have
been doing for twenty years on air, which you have
made your living, which which we have propped you up
into the number one conservative speaker in America. Your audience
has done that because you speak out with moral clarity
in times that you need to speak out with moral clarity,
(19:01):
and he is he's going on this completely like you
know anti you know, cancel culture thing, and that is
not the case here. So he goes on, Yeah, this
is hilarious.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Actually one of the clips I was listening to myself thinking,
as I often do when I hear myself speak, which
is never because I never watched myself, But at these
events they always play like the role of you, and
I'm like.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
That guy is pompous.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Whoop?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Sorry about that. We don't see ourselves clearly. But the
prediction that you know, at some point when Republicans took
power again, which I did everything I could, you know,
to help, and really felt that was important. I still think,
you know, I was right, But I really thought that
the impulse to deep platform people or even to use
(19:48):
the word platform as a verb, which it's not.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
It's a noun.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Don't steal my nouns. Deep platform and denounce why haven't
you denounced somebody else? The whole like red guard cultural
revolution thing that we so hated and fear on the
left that we did everything we could to usher in
a new time where you could have an actual debate.
I mean, this kind of was the whole point of
(20:12):
Charlie Kirk's public life, and I think that I think
that he died for it. I really believe that, and
I know a lot about it because the last several
months of Charlie's life were devoted, in part to arguing
about this event, in fact, this speech, in fact my
(20:33):
speech here, which he asked me to do earlier this year,
this summer, and was immediately put under just immense pressure
from people who give money to turning point. I would
assume good people, but who wanted him to take me
off the roster. And this has all become public and
the whole thing is so said that I never talked
about it except to say Charlie stood firm in his
(20:54):
often stated and deeply held belief that people should be
able to debate, and that if you have something valid
to say, if you're telling the truth, you ought to
be able to explain it calmly and in detail to
people who don't agree with you, and that you shouldn't
immediately resort to shut up racist, You shouldn't immediately.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Go to motive. By the way, shut up.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Racist is the number one reason I voted for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
What is he talking about, like, shut up race? What
is he talking about right now, who's saying, shut up racist.
Not a single person is saying that. What people are
saying is is that you need to speak out when
somebody is falsely accusing somebody of murder okay, and is
going after the widow of something someone and accusing her
(21:42):
of murder, and that you should be speaking out about that.
That nobody's talking about shut up racist. But he's going
on these tangents right now. Now he goes, he gets
into some other parts that really expose, like this shocking hypocrisy,
and I want to get into that. Right after the break,
(22:04):
you're listening to fam Boogie, Red Pilled America's fam Boogie,
and we are talking about the Amfest and the beef,
the hip hop beef between Ben Shapiro on one side
and Candice Owen's, Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson on the other.
We got one guy on this side, and we got
three on the other side. And the one guy on
(22:25):
the I can't believe I'm saying this. The one guy
on the other side is has the moral clarity, and
the three people on the other side that are trying
to hold on to audience capture or are captured by
their audience have no moral clarity. So we're going over
Tucker's speech at Amfest, and one of the themes that
(22:46):
you kind of start to see play out is is
that the crowd is definitely more with Ben Shapiro. But
Tucker has just like completely dropped the ball on this.
He's speaking at an event and he's defending a woman
that has been going at the widow the CEO of
this event for three almost three months, okay, and he's
(23:11):
arguing as to why he should not be why he
should be forced to go at her. So he went
on with his speech, and I want to play a
little bit more of that here.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I mean, first of all, if I was a racist,
if I was a big and I would just say, so, okay,
it's America. You're allowed to be whatever kind of person
you want.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
I'm sincerely opposed, have always been and will always be.
But the style of debate where you prevent the other
side from talking or being heard because you immediately go
to motive, well, I wonder why you're asking that question.
I wonder why why are you asking that question?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I detect in the question.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
A certain evil in your soul, and everyone listening should
know that listening to you implicates them, and did they
someday may be asked to denounce you, and that friendship
is not a reason to defend someone.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Love is no defense.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Nobody's laughing. So he goes on from there, and he
the argument that he starts to make is that he
is he uses this analogy that he would not go
at his brother and not publicly denounce his brother if
his brother went on a murdering spree. And this is
where it just kind of goes off the rails.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
For me, if my brother went on a drug related
murder spree, I would not denounce him.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
What are you for? Drug related murder spree? Isn't knowing
for my brother.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
And nothing will ever make me not for my brother.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
So think about this for a second. He's standing on
the stage of Charlie Kirk's legacy, Charlie Kirk, who was
murdered by a man. And how did they catch this man?
They caught him because his parents came forward because they
recognized him in the videos that were being released by
(25:03):
the FBI. They decided they needed to turn in their
own son because he had created he had done this
horrific murder. And now you have Tucker Carlson standing on
the stage of Charlie Kirk's legacy basically saying that he
was in the same situation, he wouldn't have done that.
(25:23):
He's saying that in so many words, well.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
He wants you to believe that denouncing bad behavior and
counsel culture are the same thing, which they are not,
not even remotely close.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And everybody knows that, Tucker.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Everyone knows that, and so he's setting up this straw man.
And the fascinating thing is is that is when you
start to delve into the hypocrisy of it. Because there
was a time when Tucker was kind of one of
those guys that got you know, at every instance he
would go at people that were his political enemies. And
(25:58):
one of those times was when Harvey Weinstein was accused
of rape a bunch of women in twenty seventeen. In
October twenty seventeen, this story came out and it was
the talk of media where you had Harvey Weinstein being
accused of rape, and you have all of his friends
(26:19):
that didn't speak out. And this is what Tucker Carlson
had to say at that time.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Harvey Weinstein isn't just a movie producer. He's a political
figure on the left, a major donor to the Democratic Party,
a personal friend to countless liberal activists and politicians, all
of which helps explain why the reaction from self described
defenders of women has been so muted. For the days
after the story broke, democrats in Hollywood and Washington seemed
(26:45):
to freeze, unsure of what to say, hoping the whole
thing would just die down and go away.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
It hasn't.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Those actors who lecture you from the Oscar podium every
year about their virtue and your lack of it suddenly silent.
Hillary Clinton, traveling on a book tour whose whole purpose
is to call of sexism in American society, she said
not a single word about our old friend Harvey Weinstein
for five full days.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So there you have it. He is, you know, kind
of on display, hypocrisy on display. And this was the thing.
He wanted these people to speak out and condemn this
man who still had the presumption of innocence. He wasn't
in jail, you know, there was nothing that was concrete.
He hadn't been through a court system, and he hadn't
(27:33):
been sued by these people and found guilty at this time.
There was no reason for him to take that position
then and take a different position now. Tucker Carlson has
clearly dropped or changed his principles since he did that
report on Harvey Weinstein, because it wasn't clear that Harvey
(27:53):
Weinstein was guilty at that time. It is very clear
what Candice Owens was doing and has been doing to
Erica Kirk and TPUSA as a vendetta with them. What
many people don't even talk about is her blexit that
she used to have. She basically had to give it
up to TPUSA because of the course of the last
(28:14):
couple of years of it, it was draining. It was
just spilling money out one point seven million here, a
million there, and she was still paying herself two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars in saying that she was working
thirty hours a week while she was doing her podcast,
which sounds a little bit off. She's had some kind
of old associates come forward and say, ah, that's kind
(28:35):
of weird. I don't remember her working thirty hours a
week on this project as she was doing her podcast.
So you know it is he's setting up this straw man.
He's trying to make this kind of analogy with his
brother and him not condemning what Candice Owens has been
doing to TPUSA for the last three months.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Maybe he just doesn't want to suffer the wrath of
her audience, because I will tell you that they are
I mean, my gosh, not only are they retarded, but
they will they will come at you because they have
been coming at us on YouTube, you guys, so we
need the family.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I have to go on YouTube and a fight back.
That's them back. I mean, they're not that smart, so
you don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But uh true.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You know, maybe I think at the end of the day,
a lot of it does have to do with audience capture.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I do. I think most of it does. I think
most of it has to do with audience capture. And
I'll give some proof on that a little bit later.
So Tucker went on, he starts talking about he goes
on this crazy tangent about Islam. And this is where
he starts to sound like a New York Times editor
or New York Times writer because he starts to accuse
(29:45):
the you know, I guess the conservative movement because that's
what he's talking who he's talking to for attacking Muslims,
just kind of out of the blue. Here he goes,
and what you're watching.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Now attacking people on the attacking millions of Americans because
they're Muslims.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's just and I'm a Christian.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I'm not a Muslim.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I'm gonna I know there's a lot of effort to
claim I'm a secret gee Hoti, I'm not. You should
not attack people on those grounds. And you're seeing it
from Republic. What the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Total crickets there, Total crickets. Nobody is kind of responding
to what he has to say. Theres well and think
about this for a second. This is on the heels
just this last week in Australia of too Muslim, a
father and son shooting and killing a bunch of people
on a beach in Australia. FBI just announced that they
(30:37):
broke up a team of four that were planning a
terrorist attack on New Year's Eve Muslims. So you know
you're starting, is this this weird path that he's going
down right now? And I used to kind of think
that this that whole Tucker Catarlsen, you know, slur that's
been thrown at him was just kind of petty, but
(31:00):
I'm starting to say, like, what's going on here? I mean,
the guy just bought property in Qatar. He kind of
announced it while he was in Qatar a cup I
think it was a couple of weeks ago or so.
It was so stoked about it. This is a guy
that was just a couple months ago talking about how
you know, he's an American, his family's been here for
(31:20):
four hundred years. They've burned the boats behind them, and
you know he's out there fly fishing, you know, you know,
and looking like this American fly fisher going out there
and everything. And now he's going out and he's simping
for you know, Islam. What people are concerned about is
what these people are doing in other countries. You're seeing
(31:42):
it happen in the UK and in London, you're seeing
it happen in France. And here's the fascinating thing about it.
He just made this argument on with Pierce Morgan just
a couple of days ago, where he was in London,
and he makes this argument that there are too many
basically brown people coming into London. He's referring to Muslims,
(32:05):
but he's making this argument that that that the whites
are getting replaced in London, and they're getting replaced obviously
by Muslims.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Britain voluntarily joined the war. It was a war that
you were not involved in, and you got in. But
my question is why did it destroy Britain. I don't
understand as the victor name destroyed, didn't destroy Britain.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Well, look outside, look in the city of London. Let's
Tower Bridge. It's the Tower of London, magnificent. Well it
changed London.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Why do you look at this and.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
See a wrecked country? I don't, Well, I don't see
an English country. So we're in the city. What do
you mean by that?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
It's not Well, people whose ancestors build stonehengs are not
here anymore. So the city of London is thirty six
percent white, and that's happened in the last I don't
know forty years.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
But England is about seventy England Okay, Well it was
not it was ninety nineteen forty five. Okay, So we've evolved,
but you're on the way to becoming the minority in
the country. So no one wants to say that. I
think you can get arrested for saying that.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Here.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
So white supremacy is the redigenous population of the country.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
It's a statistical fact that I think by two thousand,
one hundred we will be a minority white.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Country twenty sixty three as of today. But these are
dynamic numbers, so they change.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Here's my question of you, So what okay? So there
he is making this argument with Piers Morgan that was
just a couple of weeks ago. He's talking about basically,
the fabric of London and the fabric of the UK
has changed, and the same thing is happening in France,
and so that's what people are talking about. They're talking
(33:43):
about on the heels of this attack that they just
saw happen in Australia where all of these people were
just shot down for being Jewish by a father and
son jihadi group. And then they're also talking about the
FBI coming forward and saying that they had to break
up another terrorist attack. People are concerned that if you
(34:04):
bring those elements into the United States, that we are
going to become London and we are going to become France.
It's not that difficult. So why does he go off
on this tangent and.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
So so hard.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Disgusting, disgusting, and nobody was responding. It was cricket. He's
losing the crowd there, he is leaving, and people are
feeling it. And I think that there's this fight going
on for this soul. And we've talked about this now
for weeks months now, this fight going on for the
soul of the conservative movement, and he is just going
(34:40):
off on this strange tangent. I think he's trying to
make an argument that a coalition can be made with
these kinds of you know, Muslims and with these kinds
of Islam followers. And I think there's been many people
that I have seen that have made a very cogent
argument that sharia law and kind of the Islam movement
(35:02):
is not compatible with the Western civilization. And those arguments
have held, and we're seeing that they don't want to assimilate.
They don't want to assimilate to the Western culture. There
are some obviously some great Muslims out there and great
Islam followers out there, and there are some attributes of
(35:24):
their religion that we should look to and say, wow,
you guys really have a handle on this. You guys
really have a very conservative approach to family and to
building family and to protecting yourself against the LTGBTQ community,
those kinds of things, but to basically chastise conservatives for
(35:44):
being afraid that we are going to bring more of
that element in that hates us. They hate us, So
why are you going to bring those refugees in here?
That's not hate, that is people concerned with the American fabric.
We have enough people here they hate America. We don't
need to bring more of those people in. And for
Tucker Carlson to take this position that you are hateful
(36:07):
because you are concerned by that, he's setting up another
straw man. And this is why you don't go in.
You write a speech, and then throw it away when
you step to the to the microphone. He got completely flustered.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
He got taken off his game, he got derailed, he
got taken off his game.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And he is kind of like the ring leader now
of this anti Israel faction of the right. You saw
that when in the pictures that were kind of coming
out during his Christmas party that was recently in Tennessee.
I believe that it was in my have been in Nashville.
There was a quote unquote, you know, Tucker Carlson Christmas
party that was held out there, and you had basically,
(36:49):
you know, a lot of these anti Israel you know players.
You had Candice Owens, you had uh Marjorie Taylor Green there,
you had Jason Whitlock there, and and they were all
kind of like circling and hoveling around, helding around Candice Owens.
And so I think that they're trying to kind of,
(37:09):
I don't know, wipe out this Jewish conservative faction within
the conservative movement. I think it's a you know, they're
going to lose that battle. And that's not to say
that I don't think that there are some things that
need to be debated in regards to getting involved in
any more Middle Eastern wars, in regards to foreign aid
(37:30):
to some of these wars, in regards to making this
Islamic community hate us more by being involved in these wars.
Those are all valid conversations and valid debates. But for
him to basically go up there and play MSNBC and
shame Conservatives and Republicans for being concerned of bringing these
people in that hate us, I just think is just
(37:53):
something that shows that he's losing his way right now.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I think he knew exactly what he was doing in
many ways.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
This is why I really think that whole Tucker Qatar
it's kind of landing. Now. You're seeing this kind of
approach that he's taking right now, and you're starting to
wonder what is going on here? Is there something going
on behind the scenes? Is there money flowing in? You know,
it was one of these kinds of things. A lot
of people have been talking about this Katar money coming
(38:20):
into conservative media and accusing basically anybody that's anti Israel
of taking some of that money, and you have to
start thinking, is there something going on with this whole
Katarlsen slur that's being thrown at him.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
You know, last week we got a lot of accusations
that we were taking money from Israel. We a lot
a lot of accusations, and I just want to make
something very very clear. We have never taken a dime
from Israel. In fact, we turned down money from them. Yes, okay,
let me be clear about that. And now I'm regretting it.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Okay, Yeah, we're.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Gonna get accused of it.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, I could have a burkin, but yeah, we've never
taken money from Israel.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
No, no money from guitar and no money from.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Anybody except our audience and our show sponsors. Okay, yeah,
so let's just be clear about that, so you know,
stop with your stupid accusations and go your retards.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I think retard might be my.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Favorite word, So I will say I agree with you.
I like the word retard and because it fits so
much for the next audience that we're about to talk to,
and that is Candace Owens' audience. So I want to
get into where all this came from. Why did this
fight kind of break out between Tucker Carlson and Ben
(39:40):
Shapiro that goes back quite some time, but what did
this specific fight come from? And it came from the
Candace Owens and Erica Kirk meeting of the minds, and
we want to get into that in part two. Join
us over there right now.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
See you over there, guys.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
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