October 11, 2025 • 37 mins
Did a friend of Charlie Kirk have foreknowledge of his public execution? We analyze another extraordinary accusation by Candace Owens - and what we think is at the core of her "investigation" into the death of the founder of Turning Point USA.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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on with this analysis, I guess you can say of
the investigation into Charlie Kirk's assassination by Candice Owens. When
we left you last, I was telling you that she
took a turn and went after this guy named Josh Hammer.
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She is strongly suggesting, and this is one of her
tactics that I do not like, is she makes these
strong suggestions on something. As a listener, when you're listening
to these suggestions, they sound like claims. She's strongly suggesting
that Josh Hammer this kind of a conservative pundit. I
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think he's been a contributor at The Daily Wire and
The Blaze and now at Newsweek. She suggested that he
has pre knowledge or he had pre knowledge of Charlie
Kirk's assassination. So the evidence that she is providing for
this is a tweet that he put out on September ninth,
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twenty twenty five, which is the day before Charlie Kirk
was assassinated. He retweeted Donald Trump an old tweet of
Donald Trump's that had to do with public executions. I'm
gonna let her introduce this quite inflammatory accusation.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Twitter users pointed out a very strange tweet that Josh
Hammer hit send on sixteen hours before Charlie Kirk was
assassinated for no apparent reason at all. He retweeted something
that President Donald Trump had sent a full twelve years
ago about public executions. Here it is here is that
retweet Trump wrote on April nineteenth, twenty thirteen, should be
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public execution for all to see. You will end this
bulb fast, and Josh Hammer just replies and says, base,
you can see this is we are in central time,
So that's about nine o five pm Eastern time. Now,
what is a justification for this? There might be one.
I tried in earnest to at first rationalize it. Right,
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What could have been going on that Josh Hammer decided
to dig through the twenty thirteen Twitter archives and retweet
someone calling for someone calling for a public execution. Well,
I'll let one of the many Zionist PR agents explain
at first. Yashar Ali, who like I said, is quite
literally paid to do PR for Zionists. I know this
personally on the right end on the left, tried to
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explain it away by kind of lying, I would say.
He tried to claim definitively that Josh was referring to
the criminal who horrifically murdered the Ukrainian refugee Irina Zarutzka
in North Carolina. That was obviously a big story in
the beginning of September. Yashar Ali wrote this last night
Candace Owens quote tweeted notorious neo Nazi Sam Parker, who
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pointed out that Josh Hammer, who is Jewish and was
a friend of Charlie Kirk's, elevated a Trump tweet from
twenty thirteen The day before, which called for public executions. Candace,
of course would like people to believe that Josh's quote
tweet is suspicious in the context of the assassination of
Charlie Kirk. But Josh was just sharing what many conservatives
were sharing and stating the day before. That's because they
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were taught talking about the horrific murder of Arena Zarutska.
Now another user then jumped on that and tried to
establish a non fact that the footage of Arena's murder
was released on that day on the night and that's
why Josh tweeted that all of this is factually untrue. Okay,
Arena was murdered on August twenty second, her perpetrator was
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arrested that same day, and the footage was released and
trended on x On September fifth, Josh himself sent multiple
tweets regarding the homicide, as everyone did, because, like I said,
it was trending, and when he was asked specifically about
punishment criminality, perhaps that her perpetrator should face Josh, at
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no point that I could determine whether he was on
the news, whether he was on his own show, or
anywhere else, did he speak about the death penalty or
you know, a public execution.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
All right, So she is claiming that because he reached
me this old tweet from Donald Trump, that he has
somehow had fore knowledge because it was the day before
Charlie Kirk was assassinated, publicly assassinated, publicly executed, that he
somehow had foreknowledge of that public execution. And she is
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basing that on the fact that there was nothing new
that came in the news that day, that everything happened
with that Irena horrible, horrible stabbing in North Carolina on
a subway, that there was no new news that came
out that day, and that it was not based on
you know, kind of the release of the video and
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what have you. I have to say, this is the
moment where Candice lost me forever. I will never take
her seriously again after this moment because she has the
shittiest approach to research that you could possibly have, and
either she has bad people around her or she's just
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shitty at it herself. And this is why if you
go to the actual tweet that she is talking about
for Donald Trump, it's right there. She shows it on
her show and there's a clip of it, a screenshot
of it. If you go to it and you click
the quote tweets on it, you see that a lot
of people were also tweeting that same thing on September
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ninth before this Josh Hammer guy tweeted it out. Why
did they tweet this out? Maybe a little bit to
add to this, we tweeted about public execution on that
same day. On September ninth, we put out a tweet
it related to this Irena case because the DOJ announced
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the charges against this man on that day. It was
Pam Bondi, she retweeted out. She tweeted, I should say
Arena Zurutska was a young woman living the American dream.
Her horrific murder is a direct result of failed soft
on crime policies that put criminals before innocent people. I
have directed my attorneys to federally prosecute to Carlos Brown Junior,
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a repeat violent offender and a history of violent crime,
for murder. We will seek the maximum penalty for this
unforgivable crime, and he will never again see the light
of day as a freeman. That was on September ninth,
in the late morning. Cernovich responded to it, said death penalty.
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Several others responded to it. We responded to it and
said he must be drawn and quartered. And then people
started digging up that old tweet from Donald Trump and
retweeting it and calling for public execution of this man.
And that is clearly what this Josh Hammer guy was doing.
She did such shoddy research on this to not know
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that there was some new development of this case. This
is where Israel derangement sends you in a horrible direction.
She clearly does not like this guy because he is
a Zionist, and she is aligning with people like this
Parker I think is his name, that looks for Israel
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in everything, and here she is aligning with this guy
and his theory that that Josh Hammer somehow had pre
knowledge of Charlie Kirk's death. He's a lawyer, by the way.
He's so stupid that he's going to tip his hat
and hint to the public that he has foresight of
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Charlie Kirk being assassinated the next day. It is so egregious.
It is such an egregious attack, and it just shows
how horrible she is at doing research on these things.
And if this is the approach that she takes with
her research, how can you ever trust her on anything?
Is she going to come out and correct this, because
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this was a huge segment of her show. By the way,
her shows on these on this topic, they get over
a million views. All right, Now, maybe this Josh Hammer
guy is an asshole. I don't know him. I've never
really heard of this guy before. But that doesn't give
you the right to mislead your audience.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I mean, in the month of September alone, I believe
her subscrew what was it, seven hundred thousand by seven
hundred I think.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I've saw blade. I think it's it's one of those
social media tracking sites and it says social Blade. I
think it is said that she had over seven hundred
thousand additional subscribers on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Okay, So if I were to take the Candace Owen's approach,
and I just want to ask a question, Okay, this
is just a question. Uh, you know, who has benefited
the most from Charlie Kirk's death? Can you answer me that?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Who has gotten so much fame off of his assassination?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah? And I would say, you know, it looks like Candace.
I mean, TPUSA has obviously got a wind fall of
donations they've gotten a windfall of interest into their organization,
but so has Candice Owens.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well, you know what, But the point of this, and
the point of my question, is it it's irresponsible as
a journalist, a person in the media to take that
kind of an approach.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yes, because you could do this, you could say, hmm,
that's weird. She got over seven hundred thousand subscribers. She
has a huge windfall of attention, and I'm sure she's
able to monetize that. Oh wait a minute. She has
a lot of connections it seems like within TPUSA that
were very close to this guy that also didn't like
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the fact that he was willing to support the Israel cause,
oh wait, wait a minute, he also wouldn't bring her
back to TPUSA. He wasn't bringing her back into this
organization that she benefited from that exposure. Hmm. Maybe she
should be investigated. That's weird. That's weird of just asking questions,
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just asking questions.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I do not like that approach.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, there's a there's a there's a big, big problem.
There's a terminology for this. It's called just asking questions JAQ,
jacking off your audience. It is literally a technique that
these conspiracy theorists use to keep people connected to these
stories and to constantly be asking questions, because what you're
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doing is is you're raising doubt in the audience. You
can claim plausible deniability when all you're doing is asking questions,
or you only focus on the questions and you rarely
provide the answers, And you provide the answers when you
know something's going to come out and is going to
prove what you said wrong before. Yeah, then you start providing.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
And then when somebody calls you out on it, your
response is, well, no, I didn't say that. I was
just asking questions asking I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I didn't like initially, like this attack on her and
Tucker in the past, where you know they were asking
questions and people would say and they would take this
exact kind of argument against them. Now I see it. Now,
I see it because it is a tactic of the
conspiracy theorist. It's hard right now to take her seriously.
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Ever again, she's been consistently wrong on so many big,
enormous things. She challenged bib not Yahoo to release the
letter between him and Charlie Kirk because she claimed that
he was misrepresenting the contents of that letter. Bibi net
Nahu released that letter and proved her wrong. She claimed
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Tyler Robinson did not use the word vehicle and that
somehow proved that the text messages were created by law
enforcement or the FBI. And she made that claim by
looking at bodycam video from a cop that had an
interaction with him, and he used the word car in it.
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She's like, hmm, that's weird. He didn't use a vehicle,
he used car like normal human beings do. And then
later on in that same bodycam video, you see that
he uses the word vehicle. And oh, by the way,
so does Candace Owens throughout the history of her show
has used vehicle many, many, many a time. She was
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wrong on that. She claimed that Charlie wanted to bring
her back and was planning on bringing her back, and
then shortly after that conveniently took a bullet to the neck.
She publishes a chat room discussion that Charlie was in
claiming that that is proof that Charlie was bringing her back.
He didn't say he was bringing her back. He said
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that he was thinking about it, and in the context
of the conversation it was a threat to the donors
that were trying to get him to deeplatform Tucker on
his events. So even that the one time she's been
showing a source on some of these things, that didn't
even back up the claims that she was making. Okay,
I could just keep going on and on. Remember the
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Ian Carroll Candace Owens blockbuster about RFK Junior he was
being compromised by some kind of a blackmail and that
they were kind of tag teaming each other on this story.
And then Ian Carroll said after this weekend, everything is
going to change.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Nothing will ever be the same again.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
So the Bobby Kennedy blackmail story is currently breaking in
many directions all across the Internet, and American politics is
not going to be the same after this weekend. That's
not hyperbole. This is not just a hook. And I
don't really know where to start. I feel like we
need to make a video right now to keep some
people safe and to get as much as we all
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know out on the internet right now so that everyone
can be safe. And the best place for everyone to
start is at Cannas's video that she put up today.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Okay, so that ended up being complete horseshit, nothing ever
came out of it, that nothing changed was everything didn't
change after that weekend, And you know what, it's just
kind of conveniently memory hold. And so I feel like
now I have a handle on Candice Owens and how
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kind of just fades away. So I feel like I
have a handle on who Candice is now. And it
took a while because when we first did her episode,
it was, like I said, I think we released an
episode on her the very first day that we ever
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launched this show, we did an interview with her. We
launched two episodes that day. One was Mister Creepy and
then the second one on that same day was with
Candice Owans and Diamond Silk and then we went on
to do an eight part series on her family feud
with the Daily Wire, and at that time, she was
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kind of working for other people. You know, she was
discovered as we went into this story in this eight
part series. She was kind of promoted initially by Mike
Cernovich and Stefan Mullin. You they were kind of the
first big name social media people that found her and
promoted her. And she was making really kind of interesting
videos on YouTube about the black community and it being
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kind of connected to the Democrats and the fact that
she was kind of coming out as a Republican and
she was doing her own thing at that point, but
it was mainly kind of geared towards the black community
and kind of waking them up to use her kind
of terminology, waking them up from the plantation, kind of
a thing of the Democrat plantation. Then she started working
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for people and she started working with Charlie Kirk, She
worked with Dennis Prager, then she moved on and worked
with the Daily Wire guys. And each time that she
was working with these people, she had guard rails. She
was working with another organization. She wasn't really doing investigative journalism,
although I guess you can kind of argue that her
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BLM documentary was in that vein, but there was guardrails there.
There was a corporate guard rails. There was so much
that you can do within that kind of corporate structure,
and it kind of set the window of the kind
of discussion that she could have. Then she leaves out
on her own after the breakup with The Daily Wire,
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and she's kind of Candice unleashed without any kind of
overlords telling her what she can and can't do. And
what we're seeing now is somebody that lives within the
conspiracy space and that is very good at it. She
is an incredible broadcaster and she's very entertaining. But I
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think I have a handle on what she is. I
think that she is the quintessential narcissist. And if you
look through all of her reaction to this Charlie Kirk assassination,
I think it starts to spell out and it starts
to easily illustrate that aspect of her. First of all,
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how would a quintessential narcissist respond to someone close to
them publicly being executed. They would center themselves as the
real victim or hero and that's exactly what she's doing.
She credits herself for pressuring FBI Director Cash Pttel to
investigate these theories that were out there about his death. Now,
those things were going haywire. She wasn't the first to
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really grab onto them, but she is a big voice,
and she could see these things happening, and she's very
good at audience capture. But she claims Charlie wanted to
bring her back, and as we've talked about earlier, when
she posted her backup on that, he didn't say he
was going to be bringing her back. He said he
was thinking about it. But she's started to bring herself
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into the middle of it. She started making herself the center. Then,
what she's done recently is she's claiming that she has
a kill switch now because she's fearing that she's going
to be assassinated. And so she put together this compilation
of texts and emails and documents that she sent out
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to the Take Brothers of all people, to Tucker Carlson,
to various other social media influencers. Let's say that if
something was to happen to her and she was to
be killed, that that information would be released to the
public and everybody would know all of the lies that
have been told, and everybody that's making her life miserable.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I went ahead this week and sent around a life
insurance policy of shorts of sorts, a package rather to
people that I trust, a package filled with text messages, emails,
private communications, videos, and private legal documents. And I want
you to know that those people, if anything happens to me,
they have my explicit permission to release it all, denonate
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it all, expose all of these people in politics and
in the movement who behave like this behind the scenes.
I sent it to journalists, text messages, and screenshops, to
people ranging from Max Blumenthal to Andrew Tait. They won't
know where it's coming from. It will be everywhere, all right.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
She is now taking the death of Charlie Kirk and
making it about her. She's making herself the central figure
in this assassination. That is exactly what a narcissist would do.
She's also exploiting the event for attention and gain. That
is something a narcissist would do as well. She's producing
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nearly daily YouTube lives and X threads teasing bombshells as you.
She said earlier Adriana. She's been driving massive engagement seven
hundred thousand plus new YouTube subscribers. So that is what
you would see a narcissist do. What else would you
see a narcist? Do they blame external enemies. She's claiming
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that the FEDS are hiding footage. She's claiming that shortly
after Charlie Kirk said that he was going to be
leaving the Israel clause that he conveniently caught a bullet
to the throat. She's blaming these external enemies of hers,
and she did that almost immediately when she created her
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video the day after his death. She was in that
video already suggesting that Charlie was starting to have a
difference of opinion on Israel. Why bring that in, because
she's a narcissist and she's going to use this moment
to her advantage to attack her enemies. And that's all
she has been doing for four weeks now. She has
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this theory that or she's explored a theory I should
say that some engineering company associated with the event had
some kind of connections to Israel, and one of the
workers there had some kind of connection and had done
work with Israel. Everything comes back to that, and it's
just becoming this thing where she's using it to feed
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her narcissism. How is she feeding her narcissism through conspiracy theories,
through this jacking off? Like I told you guys, this
just asking questions approach where she uses plausible deniability. She
asks questions constantly, She shifts the burden of proof to
the public that's watching. She's using psychological manipulation, constantly questioning,
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triggering doubt from people even when the answers exist. The
repetition of uncertainty leaves a residue of mistrust towards institution, experts,
or facts. And she does all of this social signaling
within her community. The posture of being the only one
that's brave enough to ask reinforce this identity that she
has out there, that she's projecting out there to the public.
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She's the only one willing to ask these questions. And
very early on, I believe it was within forty eight
hours of the execution, she already started this shift of
be very wary of anybody that tells you that you
shouldn't be asking questions about this. She's constantly doing this
shift and bringing the attention back to her. It is
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disgusting that she is doing this. She is using her
dead friend's horrific assassination for personal gain. I don't believe
that she is trying to find the truth. I believe
that she is using this tactic to settle scores with enemies,
whether it be with TPEUSA, people that didn't want her
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in and that argued for her not to come back,
whether it be with the Israel lobby that really radicalized
her years ago, and I felt unfairly did so. They
put words in her mouth and regards to Nazism and
Hitler and nationalism that I thought was very unfair. But
as an adult, you have to make the right decisions.
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Even if you're under attack like that, you cannot start
taking on these tactics where you are blaming and implicating
falsely people to have pre knowledge of an assassination, using
shoddy research, and using things that could be easily debunked.
I think that she could quite possibly be one of
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the worst things that happened to conservative media in the
last generation.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
That is a big, big stake.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, and here is why this man was brutally, brutally killed.
I really have a hard time talking about this without
getting emotional, and I'm going to try not to right now.
He was horrifically killed. His kids do not have a father,
his wife does not have a husband. We have people
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in the White House that cared deeply about this man,
and we have people in the FBI that cared deeply
about this man. This event was an event that everybody
began to rally together on and come together on to
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fight the violent leftist and Candace Owens almost single handedly
destroyed that momentum. She has an enormous audience and she
turned them all into conspiracy theorists by tracking down all
of these bogus conspiracy theories as to who killed this man,
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rather than follow the lead of people that cared about
him very deeply, she absolutely destroyed the momentum. This could
have been a monumental moment of unity, and instead she
destroyed that moment. And these kinds of things don't happen
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that often. You have to find a silver lining into
this horrific death from what this man had went through
and this sacrifice that he gave to the public and
hit the leadership for the organization that he founded wanted
to take that momentum and build on it. But instead,
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what she saw was a power struggle there at TPUSA
to support Israel or not to support Israel. And that
has been a pet project of hers. It's an enemy
of hers that she has gained over the last couple
of years, at least since she left The Daily Wire.
And she took the opportunity to sling the arrows and
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just fling shit on everybody, and it destroyed the moment.
It really did. This was one of the most impactful
moments that we could possibly imagine, and she threw it away.
And I'm telling you, this is not just some small
French thing you're seeing it. Go into some of the
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comments for some of her videos, or go into the
responses to people that tried to debunking her. We've had
people come at us. We've had people that are longtime
listeners of the show and longtime supporters of the show
come at us and try to question whether we have
been bought off or whether we are shills. We've been
through this before with the Tim Ballard investigation, where we
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just went and we kept going at the truth and
going at the truth and going at the truth. And
by the way, you know who promoted Tim Ballard, Candice Owens.
All right, So this is why I make that statement.
It's not something I like to make. I actually there
was a point where I actually really liked her, and
I liked her approach and I liked her bravery. But
now she does not have a dedication to truth because
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she is following this path and she is putting out
theories that are so easily debunked, and she will not
correct them because she is on a mission to destroy
her enemy.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Unfortunately. Yeah, she's blinded by that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
She's blinded by that in a big way.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
In a big, big way. And it's just it's such
a just I hate to see this. I feel like
these young people, and I mean imparatively, she's young compared
to us. It's like every thought that they have just
comes flying out of their mouth. They do it on camera,
and it's dangerous and they don't even think about what
they're saying. It's just like word vomiting all over the
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place in front of an audience, and they say it
with such authority that people believe them. Now Here we are.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Here's another indication that she is on this blind rage
against her enemies. So you know, recently there's been this
announcement that Hamas has accepted President Trump's peace plan, ending
the war in Gaza after two years and returning all
of the hostages. Big big moment. He inherited this war.
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He wasn't in office when Israel and Gaza Palestinians went
to war. That happened in October twenty twenty three. He
comes into office, and less than a year in office,
he comes together with a peace deal and he ends it.
People like Candice have called this a holocaust. They have
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called this the genocide of innocent children, and they've been
constantly calling for a ceasefire. We called for a ceasefire.
You would think once this deal came through, for somebody
that has been calling this a genocide and a holocaust
now for quite some time, and has been hosting debates
on this and having conversations on this and constantly talking
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about that conflict, you would think that she would be
rejoicing in this moment, rejoicing in the fact that President Trump,
who inherited this conflict, was able to stop it. But
this was her response to this news.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Let's first talk about the Israel Hamas peace deal that
they're trying to shut down our throats. If you're reading
the headlines. A peace agreement is what we're calling it
has been reached between Israel and Hamas. Oh my gosh,
because they decided that there's going to be phases and
Israel is going to partially withdraw troops from Gaza, and
Amasa is going to release the remaining hostages. And this is,
of course, after everything that happened on October seventh. Don't
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forget about October seventh, and yeah, like hundreds of thousands
of Palestinians are missing, and yeah, they have destroyed eighty
five percent of Gaza, and they're going to try to
tell us that we've reached peace. At the center of
it was Steve Wikoff and Jared Kushner. They arrived on
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Wednesday morning to represent the US negotiators from Israel and Hamas,
and the mediators from Qatar in Egypt and Turkey also participated.
And we're supposed to go, Wow, that's amazing. Trump put
a statement out on truth Social Hero I'm very proud
to announce that Israel and Hamas have both signed off
on the first phase of our peace plan. This means
that all the hostages will be released by very soon,
(32:03):
and Asiel will withdraw their troops to an agreed uponline
as the first steps towards a strong, durable, and everlasting peace.
At all parties will be treated fairly. I can't even
finish it because it makes me sick that they think
we're this dumb.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
So it's just there's no celebration there. It's just it's
almost like the people that have been talking about this issue,
and Candas isn't alone in this. They don't want this
conflict to stop. There was no happiness in the ending
of the killing in that segment, and this was pretty
(32:37):
much the demeanor that she went through on this entire discussion.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And Trump wants to know abil peace prize, by the way,
for the planned ethnic cleansing, so that they could profit
on the land and turn it into a beach town.
So let me say this, this is our never again. Okay,
this is a holocaust. A holocaust just happened, A real
holocaust just happened. We will never forget this.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You hear what she said there a real okay, just
catch that.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You need to tell your children what happened in Gaza.
You tell them exactly who did it, exactly whose families
were involved in this. And when you hear in the future,
somebody tell you, like we're going to Gaza Beach for
a vacation, you need to look at them like they
are the absolute vermin of our society. Because they are.
They are. Their children will be cursed. Okay, if you
(33:29):
go and you play in the sand where you know
that your forefathers planned to mass murder children, you will
be cursed. Every person who steps foot on that, every
family that is set to inherit what they did, they
will be cursed. Your children's children will be cursed. Gaza
belongs to nobody about the Palestinians.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I think she'll be a Democrat within the next election cycle.
And you hear it right there. She's not rejoicing in
the ending of murders. She is saying, this is the
real Holocaust. It was a very subtle job. And listen,
I didn't have a problem with her when she was
(34:11):
questioning America's involvement in Middle East wars and in support
of Israel. I didn't question and even once call her
anti Semitic when she had these kinds of outbursts against
the Jewish people. I didn't go at Kanye West that hard.
Back then. Our focus is on America and America first,
(34:31):
and we have trepidations about some of these things. We
don't like our money being spent in Middle East wars.
We don't want to get pulled into any more Middle
East wars. We don't like the censorship going on on
campuses that say that you cannot speak about a certain
segment of the society, in particular the Jewish community, but
it's free to speak about you know, white people or
(34:52):
whatever you know on these college campuses. We don't like
the anti boycott laws that are happening in some of
these states. I think those are all legitimate discussion points,
and those are things that you can discuss without being
called antisemitic.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
But she is.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Taking this moment of peace. She can't even find a
moment of joy in this. She's blaming Donald Trump, who
inherited this conflict, who now put it to end, and
now she is hoisting this and foisting this on him.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Nothing is good enough for her. And I think that
you put it pretty pretty plainly, where, Yeah, she can't
even find joy in that. Does she find joy in anything?
Is anything ever enough for her? Is she ever feel fulfilled?
You know? I feel like she's really dug herself into
a hole in so many of these areas of conversation she.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Has, and she feels to me like somebody that's going
through a political awakening. I don't think that she liked
being kind of like ousted by the mainstream could conservative community.
I don't think that she liked not having the access
to kind of the Trump world. We saw that with
(36:11):
her her kind of falling out with that one pop
culture kind of blogger that she had where that girl
was claiming access to Trump and she and was making
fun of her that she didn't have that. And yes, yea,
she hasn't been invited to the TPUSA events. And you know, frankly,
it is it is the gateway to the conservative mainstream
(36:33):
movement is TPUSA. They are the quintessential gatekeepers in many ways,
and she has been blocked from that. She's kind of
out there on her own, kind of trying to make
things happen for herself, and she's doing very good at it,
by the way. But what she's doing along the way
is is she's been breaking up a movement based on
(36:54):
horrible facts, horrible research, horrible conspiracy theories implicating people with
no evidence. And I think that she's quite possibly one
of the worst thing that has happened to conservative media
in the last generation. We were going to get to
(37:15):
some other topics, but we spent too much time on that,
so we'll get to that next week. Keep an eye
out for our Scott Adams episode coming out next week.
And thank you guys so much. Sorry that this was
a heavy episode, but these things we have to talk about.
It's important to keep alternative media on the right path
(37:36):
because we're supposed to be replacing the legacy media. Enjoy
you guys' weekend, Go Dodgers. Until next time.
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will really enjoy. He's a funny character. So to continue
on with this analysis, I guess you can say of
the investigation into Charlie Kirk's assassination by Candice Owens. When
we left you last, I was telling you that she
took a turn and went after this guy named Josh Hammer.
(01:10):
She is strongly suggesting, and this is one of her
tactics that I do not like, is she makes these
strong suggestions on something. As a listener, when you're listening
to these suggestions, they sound like claims. She's strongly suggesting
that Josh Hammer this kind of a conservative pundit. I
(01:32):
think he's been a contributor at The Daily Wire and
The Blaze and now at Newsweek. She suggested that he
has pre knowledge or he had pre knowledge of Charlie
Kirk's assassination. So the evidence that she is providing for
this is a tweet that he put out on September ninth,
(01:52):
twenty twenty five, which is the day before Charlie Kirk
was assassinated. He retweeted Donald Trump an old tweet of
Donald Trump's that had to do with public executions. I'm
gonna let her introduce this quite inflammatory accusation.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Twitter users pointed out a very strange tweet that Josh
Hammer hit send on sixteen hours before Charlie Kirk was
assassinated for no apparent reason at all. He retweeted something
that President Donald Trump had sent a full twelve years
ago about public executions. Here it is here is that
retweet Trump wrote on April nineteenth, twenty thirteen, should be
(02:34):
public execution for all to see. You will end this
bulb fast, and Josh Hammer just replies and says, base,
you can see this is we are in central time,
So that's about nine o five pm Eastern time. Now,
what is a justification for this? There might be one.
I tried in earnest to at first rationalize it. Right,
(02:55):
What could have been going on that Josh Hammer decided
to dig through the twenty thirteen Twitter archives and retweet
someone calling for someone calling for a public execution. Well,
I'll let one of the many Zionist PR agents explain
at first. Yashar Ali, who like I said, is quite
literally paid to do PR for Zionists. I know this
personally on the right end on the left, tried to
(03:18):
explain it away by kind of lying, I would say.
He tried to claim definitively that Josh was referring to
the criminal who horrifically murdered the Ukrainian refugee Irina Zarutzka
in North Carolina. That was obviously a big story in
the beginning of September. Yashar Ali wrote this last night
Candace Owens quote tweeted notorious neo Nazi Sam Parker, who
(03:41):
pointed out that Josh Hammer, who is Jewish and was
a friend of Charlie Kirk's, elevated a Trump tweet from
twenty thirteen The day before, which called for public executions. Candace,
of course would like people to believe that Josh's quote
tweet is suspicious in the context of the assassination of
Charlie Kirk. But Josh was just sharing what many conservatives
were sharing and stating the day before. That's because they
(04:02):
were taught talking about the horrific murder of Arena Zarutska.
Now another user then jumped on that and tried to
establish a non fact that the footage of Arena's murder
was released on that day on the night and that's
why Josh tweeted that all of this is factually untrue. Okay,
Arena was murdered on August twenty second, her perpetrator was
(04:24):
arrested that same day, and the footage was released and
trended on x On September fifth, Josh himself sent multiple
tweets regarding the homicide, as everyone did, because, like I said,
it was trending, and when he was asked specifically about
punishment criminality, perhaps that her perpetrator should face Josh, at
(04:47):
no point that I could determine whether he was on
the news, whether he was on his own show, or
anywhere else, did he speak about the death penalty or
you know, a public execution.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
All right, So she is claiming that because he reached
me this old tweet from Donald Trump, that he has
somehow had fore knowledge because it was the day before
Charlie Kirk was assassinated, publicly assassinated, publicly executed, that he
somehow had foreknowledge of that public execution. And she is
(05:18):
basing that on the fact that there was nothing new
that came in the news that day, that everything happened
with that Irena horrible, horrible stabbing in North Carolina on
a subway, that there was no new news that came
out that day, and that it was not based on
you know, kind of the release of the video and
(05:40):
what have you. I have to say, this is the
moment where Candice lost me forever. I will never take
her seriously again after this moment because she has the
shittiest approach to research that you could possibly have, and
either she has bad people around her or she's just
(06:01):
shitty at it herself. And this is why if you
go to the actual tweet that she is talking about
for Donald Trump, it's right there. She shows it on
her show and there's a clip of it, a screenshot
of it. If you go to it and you click
the quote tweets on it, you see that a lot
of people were also tweeting that same thing on September
(06:24):
ninth before this Josh Hammer guy tweeted it out. Why
did they tweet this out? Maybe a little bit to
add to this, we tweeted about public execution on that
same day. On September ninth, we put out a tweet
it related to this Irena case because the DOJ announced
(06:48):
the charges against this man on that day. It was
Pam Bondi, she retweeted out. She tweeted, I should say
Arena Zurutska was a young woman living the American dream.
Her horrific murder is a direct result of failed soft
on crime policies that put criminals before innocent people. I
have directed my attorneys to federally prosecute to Carlos Brown Junior,
(07:12):
a repeat violent offender and a history of violent crime,
for murder. We will seek the maximum penalty for this
unforgivable crime, and he will never again see the light
of day as a freeman. That was on September ninth,
in the late morning. Cernovich responded to it, said death penalty.
(07:33):
Several others responded to it. We responded to it and
said he must be drawn and quartered. And then people
started digging up that old tweet from Donald Trump and
retweeting it and calling for public execution of this man.
And that is clearly what this Josh Hammer guy was doing.
She did such shoddy research on this to not know
(07:56):
that there was some new development of this case. This
is where Israel derangement sends you in a horrible direction.
She clearly does not like this guy because he is
a Zionist, and she is aligning with people like this
Parker I think is his name, that looks for Israel
(08:18):
in everything, and here she is aligning with this guy
and his theory that that Josh Hammer somehow had pre
knowledge of Charlie Kirk's death. He's a lawyer, by the way.
He's so stupid that he's going to tip his hat
and hint to the public that he has foresight of
(08:38):
Charlie Kirk being assassinated the next day. It is so egregious.
It is such an egregious attack, and it just shows
how horrible she is at doing research on these things.
And if this is the approach that she takes with
her research, how can you ever trust her on anything?
Is she going to come out and correct this, because
(08:59):
this was a huge segment of her show. By the way,
her shows on these on this topic, they get over
a million views. All right, Now, maybe this Josh Hammer
guy is an asshole. I don't know him. I've never
really heard of this guy before. But that doesn't give
you the right to mislead your audience.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I mean, in the month of September alone, I believe
her subscrew what was it, seven hundred thousand by seven
hundred I think.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I've saw blade. I think it's it's one of those
social media tracking sites and it says social Blade. I
think it is said that she had over seven hundred
thousand additional subscribers on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Okay, So if I were to take the Candace Owen's approach,
and I just want to ask a question, Okay, this
is just a question. Uh, you know, who has benefited
the most from Charlie Kirk's death? Can you answer me that?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Who has gotten so much fame off of his assassination?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah? And I would say, you know, it looks like Candace.
I mean, TPUSA has obviously got a wind fall of
donations they've gotten a windfall of interest into their organization,
but so has Candice Owens.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well, you know what, But the point of this, and
the point of my question, is it it's irresponsible as
a journalist, a person in the media to take that
kind of an approach.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yes, because you could do this, you could say, hmm,
that's weird. She got over seven hundred thousand subscribers. She
has a huge windfall of attention, and I'm sure she's
able to monetize that. Oh wait a minute. She has
a lot of connections it seems like within TPUSA that
were very close to this guy that also didn't like
(10:36):
the fact that he was willing to support the Israel cause,
oh wait, wait a minute, he also wouldn't bring her
back to TPUSA. He wasn't bringing her back into this
organization that she benefited from that exposure. Hmm. Maybe she
should be investigated. That's weird. That's weird of just asking questions,
(11:02):
just asking questions.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I do not like that approach.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, there's a there's a there's a big, big problem.
There's a terminology for this. It's called just asking questions JAQ,
jacking off your audience. It is literally a technique that
these conspiracy theorists use to keep people connected to these
stories and to constantly be asking questions, because what you're
(11:27):
doing is is you're raising doubt in the audience. You
can claim plausible deniability when all you're doing is asking questions,
or you only focus on the questions and you rarely
provide the answers, And you provide the answers when you
know something's going to come out and is going to
prove what you said wrong before. Yeah, then you start providing.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
And then when somebody calls you out on it, your
response is, well, no, I didn't say that. I was
just asking questions asking I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I didn't like initially, like this attack on her and
Tucker in the past, where you know they were asking
questions and people would say and they would take this
exact kind of argument against them. Now I see it. Now,
I see it because it is a tactic of the
conspiracy theorist. It's hard right now to take her seriously.
(12:15):
Ever again, she's been consistently wrong on so many big,
enormous things. She challenged bib not Yahoo to release the
letter between him and Charlie Kirk because she claimed that
he was misrepresenting the contents of that letter. Bibi net
Nahu released that letter and proved her wrong. She claimed
(12:38):
Tyler Robinson did not use the word vehicle and that
somehow proved that the text messages were created by law
enforcement or the FBI. And she made that claim by
looking at bodycam video from a cop that had an
interaction with him, and he used the word car in it.
(12:58):
She's like, hmm, that's weird. He didn't use a vehicle,
he used car like normal human beings do. And then
later on in that same bodycam video, you see that
he uses the word vehicle. And oh, by the way,
so does Candace Owens throughout the history of her show
has used vehicle many, many, many a time. She was
(13:19):
wrong on that. She claimed that Charlie wanted to bring
her back and was planning on bringing her back, and
then shortly after that conveniently took a bullet to the neck.
She publishes a chat room discussion that Charlie was in
claiming that that is proof that Charlie was bringing her back.
He didn't say he was bringing her back. He said
(13:39):
that he was thinking about it, and in the context
of the conversation it was a threat to the donors
that were trying to get him to deeplatform Tucker on
his events. So even that the one time she's been
showing a source on some of these things, that didn't
even back up the claims that she was making. Okay,
I could just keep going on and on. Remember the
(14:00):
Ian Carroll Candace Owens blockbuster about RFK Junior he was
being compromised by some kind of a blackmail and that
they were kind of tag teaming each other on this story.
And then Ian Carroll said after this weekend, everything is
going to change.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Nothing will ever be the same again.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
So the Bobby Kennedy blackmail story is currently breaking in
many directions all across the Internet, and American politics is
not going to be the same after this weekend. That's
not hyperbole. This is not just a hook. And I
don't really know where to start. I feel like we
need to make a video right now to keep some
people safe and to get as much as we all
(14:40):
know out on the internet right now so that everyone
can be safe. And the best place for everyone to
start is at Cannas's video that she put up today.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Okay, so that ended up being complete horseshit, nothing ever
came out of it, that nothing changed was everything didn't
change after that weekend, And you know what, it's just
kind of conveniently memory hold. And so I feel like
now I have a handle on Candice Owens and how
to best describe her, and I'm going to do that
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kind of just fades away. So I feel like I
have a handle on who Candice is now. And it
took a while because when we first did her episode,
it was, like I said, I think we released an
episode on her the very first day that we ever
(16:58):
launched this show, we did an interview with her. We
launched two episodes that day. One was Mister Creepy and
then the second one on that same day was with
Candice Owans and Diamond Silk and then we went on
to do an eight part series on her family feud
with the Daily Wire, and at that time, she was
(17:22):
kind of working for other people. You know, she was
discovered as we went into this story in this eight
part series. She was kind of promoted initially by Mike
Cernovich and Stefan Mullin. You they were kind of the
first big name social media people that found her and
promoted her. And she was making really kind of interesting
videos on YouTube about the black community and it being
(17:43):
kind of connected to the Democrats and the fact that
she was kind of coming out as a Republican and
she was doing her own thing at that point, but
it was mainly kind of geared towards the black community
and kind of waking them up to use her kind
of terminology, waking them up from the plantation, kind of
a thing of the Democrat plantation. Then she started working
(18:07):
for people and she started working with Charlie Kirk, She
worked with Dennis Prager, then she moved on and worked
with the Daily Wire guys. And each time that she
was working with these people, she had guard rails. She
was working with another organization. She wasn't really doing investigative journalism,
although I guess you can kind of argue that her
(18:28):
BLM documentary was in that vein, but there was guardrails there.
There was a corporate guard rails. There was so much
that you can do within that kind of corporate structure,
and it kind of set the window of the kind
of discussion that she could have. Then she leaves out
on her own after the breakup with The Daily Wire,
(18:48):
and she's kind of Candice unleashed without any kind of
overlords telling her what she can and can't do. And
what we're seeing now is somebody that lives within the
conspiracy space and that is very good at it. She
is an incredible broadcaster and she's very entertaining. But I
(19:11):
think I have a handle on what she is. I
think that she is the quintessential narcissist. And if you
look through all of her reaction to this Charlie Kirk assassination,
I think it starts to spell out and it starts
to easily illustrate that aspect of her. First of all,
(19:32):
how would a quintessential narcissist respond to someone close to
them publicly being executed. They would center themselves as the
real victim or hero and that's exactly what she's doing.
She credits herself for pressuring FBI Director Cash Pttel to
investigate these theories that were out there about his death. Now,
those things were going haywire. She wasn't the first to
(19:55):
really grab onto them, but she is a big voice,
and she could see these things happening, and she's very
good at audience capture. But she claims Charlie wanted to
bring her back, and as we've talked about earlier, when
she posted her backup on that, he didn't say he
was going to be bringing her back. He said he
was thinking about it. But she's started to bring herself
(20:17):
into the middle of it. She started making herself the center. Then,
what she's done recently is she's claiming that she has
a kill switch now because she's fearing that she's going
to be assassinated. And so she put together this compilation
of texts and emails and documents that she sent out
(20:37):
to the Take Brothers of all people, to Tucker Carlson,
to various other social media influencers. Let's say that if
something was to happen to her and she was to
be killed, that that information would be released to the
public and everybody would know all of the lies that
have been told, and everybody that's making her life miserable.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I went ahead this week and sent around a life
insurance policy of shorts of sorts, a package rather to
people that I trust, a package filled with text messages, emails,
private communications, videos, and private legal documents. And I want
you to know that those people, if anything happens to me,
they have my explicit permission to release it all, denonate
(21:19):
it all, expose all of these people in politics and
in the movement who behave like this behind the scenes.
I sent it to journalists, text messages, and screenshops, to
people ranging from Max Blumenthal to Andrew Tait. They won't
know where it's coming from. It will be everywhere, all right.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
She is now taking the death of Charlie Kirk and
making it about her. She's making herself the central figure
in this assassination. That is exactly what a narcissist would do.
She's also exploiting the event for attention and gain. That
is something a narcissist would do as well. She's producing
(21:57):
nearly daily YouTube lives and X threads teasing bombshells as you.
She said earlier Adriana. She's been driving massive engagement seven
hundred thousand plus new YouTube subscribers. So that is what
you would see a narcissist do. What else would you
see a narcist? Do they blame external enemies. She's claiming
(22:17):
that the FEDS are hiding footage. She's claiming that shortly
after Charlie Kirk said that he was going to be
leaving the Israel clause that he conveniently caught a bullet
to the throat. She's blaming these external enemies of hers,
and she did that almost immediately when she created her
(22:37):
video the day after his death. She was in that
video already suggesting that Charlie was starting to have a
difference of opinion on Israel. Why bring that in, because
she's a narcissist and she's going to use this moment
to her advantage to attack her enemies. And that's all
she has been doing for four weeks now. She has
(23:00):
this theory that or she's explored a theory I should
say that some engineering company associated with the event had
some kind of connections to Israel, and one of the
workers there had some kind of connection and had done
work with Israel. Everything comes back to that, and it's
just becoming this thing where she's using it to feed
(23:22):
her narcissism. How is she feeding her narcissism through conspiracy theories,
through this jacking off? Like I told you guys, this
just asking questions approach where she uses plausible deniability. She
asks questions constantly, She shifts the burden of proof to
the public that's watching. She's using psychological manipulation, constantly questioning,
(23:44):
triggering doubt from people even when the answers exist. The
repetition of uncertainty leaves a residue of mistrust towards institution, experts,
or facts. And she does all of this social signaling
within her community. The posture of being the only one
that's brave enough to ask reinforce this identity that she
has out there, that she's projecting out there to the public.
(24:07):
She's the only one willing to ask these questions. And
very early on, I believe it was within forty eight
hours of the execution, she already started this shift of
be very wary of anybody that tells you that you
shouldn't be asking questions about this. She's constantly doing this
shift and bringing the attention back to her. It is
(24:30):
disgusting that she is doing this. She is using her
dead friend's horrific assassination for personal gain. I don't believe
that she is trying to find the truth. I believe
that she is using this tactic to settle scores with enemies,
whether it be with TPEUSA, people that didn't want her
(24:50):
in and that argued for her not to come back,
whether it be with the Israel lobby that really radicalized
her years ago, and I felt unfairly did so. They
put words in her mouth and regards to Nazism and
Hitler and nationalism that I thought was very unfair. But
as an adult, you have to make the right decisions.
(25:13):
Even if you're under attack like that, you cannot start
taking on these tactics where you are blaming and implicating
falsely people to have pre knowledge of an assassination, using
shoddy research, and using things that could be easily debunked.
I think that she could quite possibly be one of
(25:35):
the worst things that happened to conservative media in the
last generation.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
That is a big, big stake.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, and here is why this man was brutally, brutally killed.
I really have a hard time talking about this without
getting emotional, and I'm going to try not to right now.
He was horrifically killed. His kids do not have a father,
his wife does not have a husband. We have people
(26:04):
in the White House that cared deeply about this man,
and we have people in the FBI that cared deeply
about this man. This event was an event that everybody
began to rally together on and come together on to
(26:25):
fight the violent leftist and Candace Owens almost single handedly
destroyed that momentum. She has an enormous audience and she
turned them all into conspiracy theorists by tracking down all
of these bogus conspiracy theories as to who killed this man,
(26:45):
rather than follow the lead of people that cared about
him very deeply, she absolutely destroyed the momentum. This could
have been a monumental moment of unity, and instead she
destroyed that moment. And these kinds of things don't happen
(27:06):
that often. You have to find a silver lining into
this horrific death from what this man had went through
and this sacrifice that he gave to the public and
hit the leadership for the organization that he founded wanted
to take that momentum and build on it. But instead,
(27:26):
what she saw was a power struggle there at TPUSA
to support Israel or not to support Israel. And that
has been a pet project of hers. It's an enemy
of hers that she has gained over the last couple
of years, at least since she left The Daily Wire.
And she took the opportunity to sling the arrows and
(27:47):
just fling shit on everybody, and it destroyed the moment.
It really did. This was one of the most impactful
moments that we could possibly imagine, and she threw it away.
And I'm telling you, this is not just some small
French thing you're seeing it. Go into some of the
(28:09):
comments for some of her videos, or go into the
responses to people that tried to debunking her. We've had
people come at us. We've had people that are longtime
listeners of the show and longtime supporters of the show
come at us and try to question whether we have
been bought off or whether we are shills. We've been
through this before with the Tim Ballard investigation, where we
(28:32):
just went and we kept going at the truth and
going at the truth and going at the truth. And
by the way, you know who promoted Tim Ballard, Candice Owens.
All right, So this is why I make that statement.
It's not something I like to make. I actually there
was a point where I actually really liked her, and
I liked her approach and I liked her bravery. But
now she does not have a dedication to truth because
(28:52):
she is following this path and she is putting out
theories that are so easily debunked, and she will not
correct them because she is on a mission to destroy
her enemy.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Unfortunately. Yeah, she's blinded by that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
She's blinded by that in a big way.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
In a big, big way. And it's just it's such
a just I hate to see this. I feel like
these young people, and I mean imparatively, she's young compared
to us. It's like every thought that they have just
comes flying out of their mouth. They do it on camera,
and it's dangerous and they don't even think about what
they're saying. It's just like word vomiting all over the
(29:30):
place in front of an audience, and they say it
with such authority that people believe them. Now Here we are.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Here's another indication that she is on this blind rage
against her enemies. So you know, recently there's been this
announcement that Hamas has accepted President Trump's peace plan, ending
the war in Gaza after two years and returning all
of the hostages. Big big moment. He inherited this war.
(29:58):
He wasn't in office when Israel and Gaza Palestinians went
to war. That happened in October twenty twenty three. He
comes into office, and less than a year in office,
he comes together with a peace deal and he ends it.
People like Candice have called this a holocaust. They have
(30:22):
called this the genocide of innocent children, and they've been
constantly calling for a ceasefire. We called for a ceasefire.
You would think once this deal came through, for somebody
that has been calling this a genocide and a holocaust
now for quite some time, and has been hosting debates
on this and having conversations on this and constantly talking
(30:45):
about that conflict, you would think that she would be
rejoicing in this moment, rejoicing in the fact that President Trump,
who inherited this conflict, was able to stop it. But
this was her response to this news.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Let's first talk about the Israel Hamas peace deal that
they're trying to shut down our throats. If you're reading
the headlines. A peace agreement is what we're calling it
has been reached between Israel and Hamas. Oh my gosh,
because they decided that there's going to be phases and
Israel is going to partially withdraw troops from Gaza, and
Amasa is going to release the remaining hostages. And this is,
of course, after everything that happened on October seventh. Don't
(31:21):
forget about October seventh, and yeah, like hundreds of thousands
of Palestinians are missing, and yeah, they have destroyed eighty
five percent of Gaza, and they're going to try to
tell us that we've reached peace. At the center of
it was Steve Wikoff and Jared Kushner. They arrived on
(31:42):
Wednesday morning to represent the US negotiators from Israel and Hamas,
and the mediators from Qatar in Egypt and Turkey also participated.
And we're supposed to go, Wow, that's amazing. Trump put
a statement out on truth Social Hero I'm very proud
to announce that Israel and Hamas have both signed off
on the first phase of our peace plan. This means
that all the hostages will be released by very soon,
(32:03):
and Asiel will withdraw their troops to an agreed uponline
as the first steps towards a strong, durable, and everlasting peace.
At all parties will be treated fairly. I can't even
finish it because it makes me sick that they think
we're this dumb.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
So it's just there's no celebration there. It's just it's
almost like the people that have been talking about this issue,
and Candas isn't alone in this. They don't want this
conflict to stop. There was no happiness in the ending
of the killing in that segment, and this was pretty
(32:37):
much the demeanor that she went through on this entire discussion.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And Trump wants to know abil peace prize, by the way,
for the planned ethnic cleansing, so that they could profit
on the land and turn it into a beach town.
So let me say this, this is our never again. Okay,
this is a holocaust. A holocaust just happened, A real
holocaust just happened. We will never forget this.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You hear what she said there a real okay, just
catch that.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You need to tell your children what happened in Gaza.
You tell them exactly who did it, exactly whose families
were involved in this. And when you hear in the future,
somebody tell you, like we're going to Gaza Beach for
a vacation, you need to look at them like they
are the absolute vermin of our society. Because they are.
They are. Their children will be cursed. Okay, if you
(33:29):
go and you play in the sand where you know
that your forefathers planned to mass murder children, you will
be cursed. Every person who steps foot on that, every
family that is set to inherit what they did, they
will be cursed. Your children's children will be cursed. Gaza
belongs to nobody about the Palestinians.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I think she'll be a Democrat within the next election cycle.
And you hear it right there. She's not rejoicing in
the ending of murders. She is saying, this is the
real Holocaust. It was a very subtle job. And listen,
I didn't have a problem with her when she was
(34:11):
questioning America's involvement in Middle East wars and in support
of Israel. I didn't question and even once call her
anti Semitic when she had these kinds of outbursts against
the Jewish people. I didn't go at Kanye West that hard.
Back then. Our focus is on America and America first,
(34:31):
and we have trepidations about some of these things. We
don't like our money being spent in Middle East wars.
We don't want to get pulled into any more Middle
East wars. We don't like the censorship going on on
campuses that say that you cannot speak about a certain
segment of the society, in particular the Jewish community, but
it's free to speak about you know, white people or
(34:52):
whatever you know on these college campuses. We don't like
the anti boycott laws that are happening in some of
these states. I think those are all legitimate discussion points,
and those are things that you can discuss without being
called antisemitic.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
But she is.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Taking this moment of peace. She can't even find a
moment of joy in this. She's blaming Donald Trump, who
inherited this conflict, who now put it to end, and
now she is hoisting this and foisting this on him.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Nothing is good enough for her. And I think that
you put it pretty pretty plainly, where, Yeah, she can't
even find joy in that. Does she find joy in anything?
Is anything ever enough for her? Is she ever feel fulfilled?
You know? I feel like she's really dug herself into
a hole in so many of these areas of conversation she.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Has, and she feels to me like somebody that's going
through a political awakening. I don't think that she liked
being kind of like ousted by the mainstream could conservative community.
I don't think that she liked not having the access
to kind of the Trump world. We saw that with
(36:11):
her her kind of falling out with that one pop
culture kind of blogger that she had where that girl
was claiming access to Trump and she and was making
fun of her that she didn't have that. And yes, yea,
she hasn't been invited to the TPUSA events. And you know, frankly,
it is it is the gateway to the conservative mainstream
(36:33):
movement is TPUSA. They are the quintessential gatekeepers in many ways,
and she has been blocked from that. She's kind of
out there on her own, kind of trying to make
things happen for herself, and she's doing very good at it,
by the way. But what she's doing along the way
is is she's been breaking up a movement based on
(36:54):
horrible facts, horrible research, horrible conspiracy theories implicating people with
no evidence. And I think that she's quite possibly one
of the worst thing that has happened to conservative media
in the last generation. We were going to get to
(37:15):
some other topics, but we spent too much time on that,
so we'll get to that next week. Keep an eye
out for our Scott Adams episode coming out next week.
And thank you guys so much. Sorry that this was
a heavy episode, but these things we have to talk about.
It's important to keep alternative media on the right path
(37:36):
because we're supposed to be replacing the legacy media. Enjoy
you guys' weekend, Go Dodgers. Until next time.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Hi everyone,
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