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September 15, 2025 • 48 mins

Why are the media & Hollywood so obsessed with Richard Nixon? To find the answer, we tell the true story of his life - and how his presidency gave birth to what is known today as The Deep State. Along the way we hear from the Ann Coulter, purveyor of the Unsafe Substack, and Geoff Shepard, author of The Nixon Conspiracy.

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Speaker 1 (01:24):
For decades, the mainstream narrative machine has been obsessed with
Richard Nixon. You can't go a week without hearing the
media mentioning Nixon or his biggest scandal.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
This, in some ways is worse than Watergate.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
And it seems like every year Hollywood releases a new
film or TV show about the thirty seventh President.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Anthony Hopkins, Darzev California Bred, Richard Milhouse Nixon, an Oliver
Stone's film called Nixon.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
The number of Richard Nixon related films is remarkable. All
the President's Men, Blind Ambition, gas lit, the White House, plumbers,
and on and on. The only topics Hollywood covers more
than Nixon are slavery and racism. What's going on here?
Why are Hollywood in the media so obsessed with Nixon.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I'm Patrick Carrelci and I'm Adriana Cortez.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
And this is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
This is not another talk show covering the day's news.
We are all about telling stories.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Stories. Hollywood doesn't want you to hear stories.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
The media mocks stories about everyday Americans. If the globalist ignore, you.

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Could think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries, and
we promise only one thing, the truth.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Welcome to Red Pilled America.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
For decades, we've wondered why Hollywood and the media have
been so obsessed with Nixon. They just can't stop churning
out stories about him. In fact, they've pumped out so
much content on the thirty seventh President that most people
probably think they already know what he was all about.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
At least that was our experience until we finally sat
down and researched the man. When we did, we were
shocked at how Hollywood and the media have distorted his legacy.
We quickly realized that telling Nixon's story was the reason
Red Pilled America was created to correct the distortions caused
by the mainstream narrative machine. So why are the media

(03:37):
in hollywoods so obsessed with Richard Nixon. To find the answer,
we tell the often ignored story of his life. Along
the way, we hear from the one and only Anne Colter,
New York Times bestselling author and purveyor of the Unsafe
Substack we also hear from Jeff Shepherd, author of the
Nixon Conspiracy. Jeff worked in the Nixon White House and

(03:58):
was the man that transcribed the infamous Nixon audio tapes.
I think you know all you need to know about
Richard Nixon, but understanding the untold truth behind his story
reveals the dark mission of the mainstream narrative machine and
what needs to be done to break its spell.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
Okay, is it?

Speaker 7 (04:30):
How's that he said?

Speaker 8 (04:34):
Is that reading?

Speaker 9 (04:34):
Why getting anywhere that you can see?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
It was August eighth, nineteen seventy four, and an unease
filled the White House air. Something was about to occur
that had never happened in the entire history of America,
and the monumental moment appeared to make everyone a bit antsy.
That is, everyone but the man who is in the
hot seat.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
Hey you're Barlock, and I am Why do't you stay here? Bloms?
They say, photographed better than Brunett's.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
President Nixon, no doubt understood the gravity of the moment,
yet he made every attempt to ease the tension.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
My friend Ali always rather take a lot of pictures
of it. I'm afraid he'll catch me pick up my
nose he wouldn't print that with.

Speaker 10 (05:17):
You, though, Ali.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
He was about to do what no president had ever
done in the nearly two hundred year history of America.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
Oh Yo, want a love, I don't you?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yes, Yes, good evening.

Speaker 7 (05:28):
This is the thirty seventh time I have spoken to
you from this office, where so many decisions have been
made that shape the history of our nations anymore.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Known as a man who never gave up, Richard Nixon
was preparing to be the first president to resign the
White House, and the room was busily shifting to prepare
for the live broadcast of the announcement. How could this
be happening. By the beginning of his second term in office,

(06:00):
Richard Nixon was thought to be one of the most
successful president evidents of all time. He had massive achievements
in both foreign and domestic policy. On the global stage,
he broken over twenty years silence with communist China. He
began to thaw dangerous Cold War tensions with the Soviet Union,
and was the one that ended US involvement in the
Vietnam War. But that's not the half of it. He

(06:21):
saved Israel in the Yam Kapor War, ended the draft,
opened the door for women in collegiate sports, and on
his watch Man first landed on the Moon. The violent
student protest movement was quashed, and the radical Black Panthers
were broken up. The list of his accomplishments would lead
to one of the biggest US presidential landslides in history. Yet,

(06:41):
on that fateful day in nineteen seventy four, President Nixon
stepped up to the microphone under the hot TV lights
and began his speech, announcing to the world that he
was resigning from office.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
Good eighty, this is the thirty seventh time I have
spoken to you from this office, where so many decisions
have been made that shaped his way group of this nation.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
From that moment forward, Hollywood and the Democrat media complex
have relentlessly and endlessly branded Nixon as a crook, a
liar who was the embodiment of government corruption. They clutched
their pearls at what he was being accused of in Watergate,
but they all knew better.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
The Democratic presidents before Nixon, they were taping journalists.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
That's Ann Coulter, author of The Unsafe Substack. We'll be
hearing from her throughout this series, and cites the simple
fact that in the era of Nixon. Both sides of
the political aisle surreptitiously tape their opposition.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
They were secretly taping journalists. The taping was just rampant
among the political bodies, and dirty tricks rampant since Watergate.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and even George W. Bush got
away with scandals during their terms that make what Nixon
was accused of look like child's play. Yet Nixon resigned
in disgrace, and the aforementioned presidents are now largely hair
by Hollywood in the media. What happened to Nixon? How
and why was he driven from office? To truly grasp

(08:10):
this tragic moment, you have to understand the events that
led up to it and the enemies that President Nixon
gathered along the way.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Richard Milhouse Nixon was born in nineteen thirteen in the
small southern California Quaker town of Yor Belinda. His family
was poor. Richard's dad was a startup citrus farmer. They
lived in a house he built on the ranch. His

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mother was a devout Quaker and the family was said
to have gone to church four times throughout the day
on Sundays. Now, the Quaker community had a culture that
would benefit Richard's eventual career. They liked to debate the
issues of the day, giving the young boy inn early
introduction into politics. Citrus farming was the industry of the area,

(09:07):
and the trees bearing the fruit could be seen as
far as the eye could see that When Richard was young,
his father almost lost everything during a cold winter, so
he ditched the farming business and opened a small grocery store.
By the time Nixon was twelve years old, tragedy struck
the family. Richard's younger brother, Arthur, died of tuberculosis. The

(09:28):
event had a deep impact on the family and Richard.
He became a bit shy and introverted. To soothe his
broken heart, he turned to hard work at the family market.
One of his biographers described Richard's teenage life at the time.

Speaker 11 (09:42):
Setting up the fruits and vegetables, driving into Los Angeles
at four in the morning to go to the farmer's
market to pick up the produce, getting the produce back,
getting it on the shelves. He was very good at it.
He could really fluff up that lettuce and make it
really look nice, and get them the carrots and the
potatoes and the beets and what have you, And then

(10:04):
he'd be off to school. And then he would do
his homework and work in the star of the afternoon,
late afternoon and get about four hours sleeping night and
get up at four o'clock in the morning and drive
back into Los Angeles to get that day's products.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Richard's older brother, Harold, would later fall sick with tuberculosis
as well. In effect, the turn of events left young
Richard without a mom. She left with Harold to Arizona
to get him treatment. Absent his mother's affection, Richard threw
himself into his teenage community at his local Whittier High School.
He excelled at everything his studies, sports, and extracurricular activities.

(10:42):
What he lacked in social skills he made up for
by rolling up his leaves and getting to work, and
his tenacity gained him the respect of his peers. He
joined just about every school club and became the head
of the student body. He graduated the best all around
student and even received a tuition scholarship from Harvard, But

(11:03):
with his mother away tending to his brother Harold, the
Nixon family finances were spread. Then, even with his tuition
paid for, he couldn't afford the room and board at Harvard,
so he had to make one of the toughest decisions
of his young life. The hard working, ambitious go getter
had to reject the Ivy League offer. In the fall

(11:23):
of nineteen thirty, he entered the local Whittier College, where
he excelled at everything there as well. He signed up
for football. He ran for student body president and what
was his campaign platform?

Speaker 9 (11:35):
Dancing on campus.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's Jeff Shepherd, author of the Nixon Conspiracy.

Speaker 9 (11:40):
The Quakers wouldn't allow dancing on campus, so he ran
on the platform of I'll get that, and he arranged
after he won, for the use of a hall across
the street from the college, so you could dance, but
it wouldn't be on campus. And that was their big
early victory.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
It was at Whittier College that Nixon got an early
taste of the establishment. The well off of the student
body were part of a social group known as the Franklins.
Given his background, he wasn't welcome, so Richard developed a
connection with the hard working faction of the student body
by organizing a group called the Orthogonians. It was here
that Richard began to build a bit of a resentment

(12:21):
for the easy to come by success of the privileged elite.
Another Nixon biographer would later describe this building animosity.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
I think he had a kind of an inner feeling somehow,
which he expressed many times that many people who had
not worked as hard as he did, and who were
not as serious as he had, got ahead more easily
and so and I think he had a kind of
a building and antagonism towards that kind of person.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
During his junior year at Whittier College, another blow hit
the Nixon family. At home, in his mother's arms, his
eldest brother, Harold, died of tuberculosis. Richard's response to the
grief was to drift deeper into his introversion and his
work to make up for the loss. He now felt
it was his responsibility to become a model of success

(13:08):
in his family. In nineteen thirty four, he graduated from
Whittier College with honors. He received a scholarship to Duke
University to attend law school. Even with the increased competition,
he quickly rose to the top ranks of the class.
But when he graduated, no law firm came knocking, With
no societal connections and even less money in his pocket.

(13:29):
He returned to Whittier, California, in nineteen thirty seven. Back home,
Richard did what he did in high school and college.
He got involved in everything. He became an assistant city
attorney and the president of the Whittiers twenty thirty International
Service Club. He added to that by becoming president of
the Duke University Alumni of California, President of the Orange

(13:51):
County Association of Cities, and president of the Whittier College
Alumni Association. He was leveling up his hard work ethos
for fun. He joined a local theater group where he
met a teacher inamed Belma pat Ryan. Richard's daughter would
later reflect on their first meeting, he.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Proposed the first night he met her.

Speaker 12 (14:10):
And he's a shy, sensitive person, not usually impulsive, but
he told her after they'd met a tryouts for a
little theater play, he said, you may not believe this,
but I'm going to marry you someday.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
They tied the knot in nineteen forty. Two years later,
they moved to Washington, d c. Where Richard landed a
job at the Office of Price Administration, a US federal
agency established during World War II to prevent wartime inflation.
Now a federal employee, Richard was perfectly positioned to refuse
war service. He was also a Quaker who were pacifists,

(14:43):
but as a young man with a sense of duty
and an eye towards politics, he decided to join the
war effort. In June nineteen forty two, he was appointed
a lieutenant junior grade in the US Naval Reserve. He
became a supply officer in the South Pacific, where he
made a connection with the grittier, blue collar class of
Americans that would become his base of support. He also

(15:05):
developed a skill and poker In fact, in one instance,
he bluffed his way into winning a ten thousand dollars pot.
After the war, he received a call from a wittier
banker who wanted him to run for Congress. The sitting
congressman from the area, a five term incumbent named Jerry Vorhees,
was an Ivy League far left new dealer. Vorhees was

(15:27):
a popular congressman who looked like he'd easily coast into
a sixth term, but the small business owners of the
area wanted him out, and they saw the veteran and
family man Richard Milhouse Nixon as the perfect man for
the job. It may have looked like an inopportune time
for him to run for office. He and Pat had

(15:48):
a newborn daughter, Tricia, and they didn't even own a home,
but they decided to risk everything on the opportunity, and
in nineteen forty six, Richard used his poker winnings to
launch his campaign. At the time, Republicans were worried about
the socialist programs infecting local and federal governments. A Nixon
biographer highlighted the political climate of nineteen forty.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Six when he was selected to run by his hometown
people to run for Congress. In nineteen forty six, the
Republican Party was already very definitely on an anti rid
campaign and finding that that was politically profitable.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Communism was slowly infiltrating the government and it needed to
be weeded out and sent to the ash heap of history.
Nixon saw the communist threat as the paramount issue of
the time again and culture.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
At that time, there was one issue that was more
important than any other issue, and that was the communist threat.
And the Republican Party realized that the Democratic Party was collaborating,
or at least members of the Democratic party. Let me
put it that way, we're collaborating with the communist threat.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
And Richard saw his opponent, Jerry Vorhees as a communist
wolf dressed in liberal sheep clothing. He attacked Warhe's by
exposing his record backing socialist programs. Richard's wife Pat campaigned hard,
with her husband underscoring their family values. No one thought
the kid from your Belinda had a chance against the
five time incumbent, but unbelievably, come election night nineteen forty six,

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Richard Milhouse Nixon became the congressman from California. It was
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As the young thirty four year old was sworn into office,
most would think it would take him years, even decades,

(19:41):
to make a name for himself, but Richard Nixon was
soon to be catapulted into the national spotlight. The Republican
Party had fared well in the midterm elections, and they
were about to take advantage of their victory by attempting
to purge America's institutions of communists. And they do it
by using the House on American Activities Committee or HUACH.

(20:03):
For short ten years earlier, Hughack was formed to investigate
potential subversive activities within influential American organizations that were suspected
of having Nazi or Communist party ties. Reinvigorated by their
midterm wins, the committee asked the director of the FBI
Jagar Hoover to underscore the growing threat.

Speaker 13 (20:22):
The Commonist Party of the United States is a fifth column,
if there ever was one. It is far better organized
than were the Naxies in occupied countries prior to their capitulation.
They are seeking to weaken America, just as they did
in their era of obstruction when they were aligned with
the Naxis. Their goal is the overthrow of our government.

(20:42):
There is no doubt as to wear a real Commonist
loyalty rest Their allegiance is to Russia, not the United States. Commonism,
in reality, is not a political party. It is a
way of life, an evil and malignant.

Speaker 14 (20:56):
Way of life.

Speaker 13 (20:57):
It reveals a condition akin to disease that spreads like
an epidemic, and like an epide, and a quarantine is
necessary to keep it from infecting this nation.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Leaders of industry at the time, we're facing violent Communist
led strikes in places like Hollywood. A HUAC investigator, a
chap named William Wheeler would later reflect on how Hughack
got involved in Hollywood.

Speaker 15 (21:19):
This was more or less request by the people in
Hollywood who had personal knowledge of you might say, Commonist
infiltration into various craft unions, and they were concerned about
this infiltration and the influence the Commist Party would have

(21:41):
in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
No doubt because of his new anti communist bona fides,
the freshman congressman from Your Belinda was appointed to this committee,
and it was his work there that forever cemented him
as an enemy of Hollywood and the Marxist left. We've
told a part of this story before, but it's important
that we've given a bridge version of it here for
reasons that will become obvious later. In October nineteen forty seven,

(22:06):
the Huack Committee subpoenaed twenty witnesses to testify about the
Communist infiltration of Hollywood. Most were from the Motion Picture
Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals, a conservative Hollywood
group which fought Tinseltown's growing far left reputation. It included
icons like John Wayne, Walt Disney and Rand Ronald Reagan
and Jir Rodgers, Cecil B. Demil, John Ford, Charles Coburn,

(22:28):
Gary Cooper, and many others. The Huach chairman, New Jersey
Congressman J. Parnell Thomas, kicked off the hearing. By his
side was Richard Milhouse Nixon.

Speaker 16 (22:37):
This committee, under its mandate from the House of Representatives
as the responsibility of exposing and spotlighting subversive elements wherever
they may exist. It is only to be expected that
such elements would strive desperately to gain entry to the
motion picture industry, simply because the industry offers such a

(22:57):
tremendous weapon for education and propaganda that commonists have mete aid.
Such an attempt in Hollywood, and with considerable success, is
already evident to this Committee from its preliminary investigative work.
The Committee is determined that the hearing shall be fair
and impartial. We have subpoena witnesses representing both sides of

(23:19):
the question.

Speaker 13 (23:21):
All we are after are the facts.

Speaker 16 (23:23):
We want to know what strategic positions in the industry
have been captured by these elements whose loyalty is pledged
in word and deed to the interests of a foreign power.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
One by one, anti communist patriots at the highest level
in Hollywood testified before the HUAC Committee, including some of
the heads of the major film outfits like Warner Brothers Studios.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
American way of life is under attack from without and
from within our national borders. I believe it is the
duty of each loyal American to resist those attacks and
defeat them.

Speaker 17 (23:57):
I gave up my job to fight against the totalitarianism
which was called fascism.

Speaker 18 (24:02):
I am quite willing to give it up again to.

Speaker 8 (24:04):
Fight against the totalitarianism called communism.

Speaker 19 (24:06):
Fundamentally, I would say in opposing those people that the
best thing to do is to make democracy work. In
the Screen Actors Guild, we make it work by ensuring
every one of a vote and by keeping our members informed.
And Jefferson put it a lot better than I can.
But if all the American people know all effects, they'll
never make a mistake.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
I would suggest that the Congress of the United States
immediately enact such legislation as will preserve the Bill of
Rights to the people for whom it was designed. That
precious bill was never intended to protect enemy agents, saboteurs,
and spies, whether they're Americans or alien born.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Even Walt Disney himself spoke out about the communist infiltration
of Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Well, I feel that they really ought to be smoked out.

Speaker 14 (24:52):
Has shown up for.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
What they are, so that all the good free causes
in this country, all the liberalisms that really are American,
can go out without this taint of Communism.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Were subpoened from the other side of the argument. Ten
refused to cooperate, all but one being members of the
Screenwriters Guild, the group that creates the narratives in Hollywood films.
The Screenwriters Guild was long suspected to be saturated with Communists.
Its first president was John Howard Lawson. Testimony would later
reveal that mister Lawson was sent to Los Angeles by

(25:24):
the Communist Party for the purpose of organizing Communist activities
in Hollywood. He was also a high ranking member of
the Hollywood branch of the Communist Party USA. The Hollywood Ten,
as they came to be known, came to Washington, d C.
In high spirits. They had the backing of major players
in Hollywood, including Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, and Danny Kay

(25:44):
who attended the hearings to lend their moral support. The
Huach Committee went hard after the Hollywood Ten, and each
witness took about the same approach as John Howard Lawson.

Speaker 16 (25:55):
Are you a member of the Communist Party or have
you ever been a member of the Communist Party? If unfortunately,
than trajict But I have to teach this committee that
the question the question is have you ever been a
member of the Communist Party.

Speaker 17 (26:10):
I am flaming my answer in the only way in
which any American citizen can.

Speaker 14 (26:14):
Flame his Then you denied. Question You invade is absolutely
INVASI then.

Speaker 16 (26:19):
You denied you you refuse to answer that question that tract.

Speaker 15 (26:22):
I have told you that I will for my beliefs,
my affiliations here the House, here's with the American Republic,
and they won't know where I stand as they do from.

Speaker 16 (26:30):
What I have WITCH stand away from this name.

Speaker 17 (26:33):
For Americanism for many.

Speaker 16 (26:34):
Years, and I stand away from the stand.

Speaker 14 (26:36):
For the Bill of Rights.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Man away from the same HU ex Chairman J. Parnell
Thomas quickly read the committee's decision on Lawson's testimony.

Speaker 16 (26:45):
John Howard Lawson refused to answer the question are you
a member of the Communist Party? Or have you ever
been a member of the Communist Party? An other questions.
He is attempting to forought the hearings and investigations of
this committee. Therefore, it is the unanimous opinion of this subcommittee,
John Howard Lawson is in contempt of Congress.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Now, why would mister Lawson refuse to answer the question.
A hint to the answer would be given when the
committee questioned fame screenwriter and Hollywood Ten member Dalton Trumbo.

Speaker 20 (27:22):
I have some other questions, missus Trumbo.

Speaker 19 (27:23):
I'd like to ask you, are you now have you
ever been a member of the Communist Party?

Speaker 14 (27:28):
Mister Stripan, you must have summarason for asking me this question.

Speaker 20 (27:32):
You can address that you do.

Speaker 14 (27:35):
I understand that the members of the press have been
given an allexed Communist Party card belonging to me. Is
that true?

Speaker 18 (27:44):
No, that's not true.

Speaker 16 (27:45):
You're not asking the question. I was the chief investigators
asking the question. Else, are you or have you ever
been a member of the Communist Party.

Speaker 14 (27:54):
I believe I have the right to be confronted with
any evidence which supports this question. I should like to
see what you had.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Oh well you would, Yeah, well you will put it so,
mister Trumbo was on to something. Hughick investigator William Wheeler
would later reflect on the evidence the committee was holding.

Speaker 15 (28:12):
The committee had obtained a number of Commas Party cards
identifying the Hollywood tam as being members of the Commas Party.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
If the Hollywood Ten had truthfully answered the question, the
studio heads would have never hired them again. If they lied,
they'd pick up a perjury wrap. So they decided to
adopt the mantra that the line of questioning was a
violation of their constitutional rights. It didn't work, no doubt.
Sincing the public's building concern of communists in Hollywood, a
speaker for the heads of all of the major film

(28:43):
studios made an announcement shortly after the Hollywood Ten's testimony.

Speaker 21 (28:46):
We will forthwith discharge or suspend without compensation, those in
our employ and we will not re employ any of
the ten until such time as he has acquitted or
has purged himself of contempt and declares under oath that
he is not a communist. We will not knowingly employ
a Communist or a member of any party our group

(29:09):
which advocates the overthrow of the government of the United
States by force or by any illegal or unconstitutional methods.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Once the studio heads made their announcement, all support for
the Hollywood Ten evaporated. A few months later, the Hollywood
Ten were found guilty of contempt of Congress and were
sentenced to a year in jail and one thousand dollars fine.
It was a victory for the Huach Committee and every
silent supporter of the Hollywood ten gained a deep rage
for the members of the committee, including Richard Nixon, and

(29:40):
he was just getting started. What happened next would cement
Richard Nixon's name as an anti communist crusader.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
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Welcome back to Red Pilled America. In nineteen forty eight,
Time magazine editor Whittaker Chambers accused a man named Algerhiss

(30:15):
of being a Soviet spy. It was a shocking allegation.
Alger hisss was a once high level government official again
and Coulter, author of the Unsafe sub Stack.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
This was a pretty serious charge. I mean, it would
be like finding out that there were a dozen members
of al Qaeda working in top positions in the Bush administration.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Algerhiss helped draft the plans for the future United Nations
and was President Roosevelt's right hand man at the pivotal
nineteen forty five Yalta conference which brought together the United States, UK,
and Soviet Union to develop the post World War II
reorganization of Europe and Germany. He would later become the
director of the State Department's Office of Special Political Affairs.

(30:59):
In nineteen forty six, alger Hiss left public service. Find
out why. Shortly after leaving government work, he became president
of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. To the public,
alger hisss was a highly respected Ivy League credentialed pillar
of society, but for roughly ten years Whittaker Chambers was

(31:19):
trying to get someone to listen to him about alger
Hiss's moonlighting gig as a Soviet spy. Chambers claimed the
two met in nineteen thirty four in Washington, d c.
When Chambers was a paid courier for the Communist Underground.
According to Chambers, the two became friends and began working
together as Communist operatives until Chambers left the Communist Party

(31:41):
in mid nineteen thirty eight. He found God and had
a political awakening. On his way out, he claimed he
tried to convince alger Hiss to leave the Communist Party
as well. When his refused, Chambers was a bit scared
and briefly went into hiding. A year later, he landed
an editor gig with Time magazine, and, feeling a sense
of responsibility, he tried to President Roosevelt that he had

(32:04):
a communist cell within his administration. For the next six years,
Chambers periodically made attempts to alert Washington d C. He
eventually made some inroads, and in nineteen forty six, alger
Hiss was called in by a hyap at the Secretary
of State and was informed that several members of Congress
were prepared to make statements on the floor of Congress
that Hiss was a communist. Shortly after that meeting, alger

(32:28):
hisss left government work. By the summer of nineteen forty eight,
the allegation reached the Huach Committee, and Richard Nixon smelled
a rat.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
The battle between Whittaker Chambers and alger Hiss, I don't
think there's been anything like it in our lifetimes.

Speaker 13 (32:57):
The testimonian about the GiB will be the truth, the
whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
And help your God up sid right down there, mister Chambers,
and talk in the microphone.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Whittger Chambers was not, I think, very believable, but Nixon
gets to the bottom of it. There was this very slick,
Harvard educated wasp, Alger Hiss, and he was backed by
Supreme Court justices and sat at FDR's right hands during
the Yelton negotiations. Absolutely upper crust, believable. And then there

(33:30):
was this slumpy guy. But he was a brilliant man
and a brilliant writer, and he had been writing for
Time magazine for many years. So at one point he
comes out and pushed to it. He tried to talk
to FDR and various other members of the FDR administration
to tell him, I have been a member of a
Soviet cell here in the United States, and many members

(33:54):
of your administration, FDR were in the cell with me,
and I can prove it. FDR laughed him off. Everybody
laughed him off. It eventually comes out and there are
these Alger Hiss one of her chambers hearings, and those
were very, very big hearings.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
According to one report, one of these sessions was the
first nationally televised hearing.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
It was nineteen forty eight, the TV was not yet ubiquitous,
but the drama was broadcast to the three hundred and
twenty five thousand homes. It had them. This was high
stake stuff. It wasn't about Hollywood Marxists making socialist movies.
A high ranking former government official who helped warm US
policy and who once had the ear of President FDR

(34:38):
was accused of being a Soviet spy. Alger Hiss represented
everything that that grocery store boy from your Belinda resented.
Hiss was a snob of rich Stock, an Ivy league
establishment man. This was the match Richard Milhouse Nixon had
been building towards his entire life.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Pulls the Liar might well be the title of the
drama which unfolds before a packed caucus rule well the House,
all American Affairs Committee members swear in Alger Hiss, former
State Department executive. Mister Hiss is accused of being a
former Communist, and before news cameras faces his accuser.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Algerhiss no doubt saw what happened to the Hollywood Ten
just a few months earlier, and he wasn't going to
make the same mistake.

Speaker 17 (35:24):
I am not, and never have been, a member of
the Communist Party.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
As the hearings progressed, the focal point became clear. Could
Whittaker Chambers even prove he knew Algerhiss. Chambers claimed that
they were good friends during their time as Communist operatives.
He even lived rent free in Alger Hiss's apartment. His
history was the opposite. He'd initially claimed he'd never heard
of the guy. When shown a picture of Chambers, his

(35:50):
said he didn't look familiar. But the committee, led by
Richard Nixon, took a smart approach. They interviewed each separately
and began to dig up information that circumstantially proved that
one of the two was lying.

Speaker 20 (36:03):
Do you and mister Hiss obeyed party disciplint in every respect?

Speaker 19 (36:13):
Do you know what you had?

Speaker 20 (36:16):
The first car of the car mister Hiss had when
I first knew.

Speaker 10 (36:20):
Him, was before it?

Speaker 9 (36:21):
Why did you get out of that the.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Plymous You ever remember that I have?

Speaker 20 (36:28):
I think we made one trip to New York together
in the Plymouth.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Chambers knew detailed information about Alger Hiss's life, where he lived,
what kind of car he drove, his hobbies. So Alger
Hiss began to change his tune. Yeah, now he remembered Chambers,
but not by the name he was using.

Speaker 21 (36:45):
Mister Chambers, you stand out, mister Hens, that individual who
is standing.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
I have Do you know him?

Speaker 17 (36:55):
I identify him.

Speaker 21 (36:56):
Mister Shippy as who as George Crant.

Speaker 10 (37:01):
When did you last see Bess Cross?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
As you have identified sometime.

Speaker 17 (37:06):
In nineteen thirty five?

Speaker 18 (37:08):
In nineteen thirty five, was the last time that you
saw him?

Speaker 17 (37:11):
According to my best recollection, not having pecular record.

Speaker 18 (37:14):
Now will you remain standing among mist his mister chairman?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Would you swear in?

Speaker 15 (37:19):
Mister Camber?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
The two dramatically faced each other, A spelt ivy leaguer
against a sloppy writer.

Speaker 14 (37:26):
So going about the toes to help your god.

Speaker 16 (37:28):
So that, oh, no, Chamber, do you know the individual
who is now standing at the witness stand?

Speaker 11 (37:36):
Who is he?

Speaker 4 (37:39):
When did you parts meet mister hit.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Nineteen thirty four The trial had everything Soviet spies, alleged
espionage at the highest level of government, and one of
the men was lying. As the hearings progressed, Alders's memory

(38:06):
continued to improve, he now remembered how he knew the
man that called himself Whittaker Chambers.

Speaker 17 (38:12):
George Crosley came into my office in the Senate Office
Building while I was acting as chief counsel to the
Senate Committee investigating the munitions industry. He represented himself as
a free lance writer for magazine. He represented himself as

(38:34):
preparing a series of articles about the munition's investigation, as
did many other members of the press. He had a
perfect right to come to my office, either directly or
through reference from the central office.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Alger hass now even recalled that Chambers lived with him
as well, and the reason why it was a humanitarian
gesture being kind.

Speaker 17 (39:01):
To Crossley years ago was one of humaneness with results
which surely some members of the committee have experienced. You
do a favor for a man, he comes for another.
He gets a third favor from him. When you finally
realize he is an inveterate repeater, you get rid of it.
If your loss is only a loss of time and money,
you are lucky. You may find yourself calumniated in a degree,

(39:26):
depending on whether the man is unbalanced or worse.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Then Alger has changed his tact. Now he decided to
attack Whittaker Chambers's credibility.

Speaker 17 (39:35):
The other side of this question is the reliability of
the allegations before this committee, the undocumented statements of the
man who now calls himself Whittaker Chambers. Is he a
man of consistent reliability, truthfulness and honor.

Speaker 8 (39:50):
Clearly not.

Speaker 17 (39:51):
He admits it and the committee knows it. Indeed, is
he a man of sanity? Getting the facts about Whittaker Chambers,
if that is his name, will not be easy. My
own counsel have made him in the past few days
and have learned that his career is not like those
of normal men. In open book, his operations have been
furt even concealed.

Speaker 22 (40:11):
Why what does he have to hide?

Speaker 17 (40:14):
I am glad to help get the facts.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Chambers counterpunched.

Speaker 20 (40:18):
Mister Hiss is lying.

Speaker 23 (40:20):
Mister Hiss is lying.

Speaker 13 (40:22):
Another wiser story of a fure familication out.

Speaker 20 (40:25):
Of the whole cling, I would say that eighty percent
at least it's abrogation.

Speaker 23 (40:30):
I was very fond of mister Hiss, and very common.

Speaker 20 (40:34):
Indeed, I was which perhaps my closest friend, mister Hitch
certainly the closest friend I ever had in the communist part.
Then I don't hate mister Hiss. We were close friends,
but we are caught in the tragedy of history. Mister

(40:55):
Hiss represents the concealed enemy against which we are all fighting,
and I am I've testified against him with remorse and pity.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Who was lying. The back and forth appeared to reach
a stalemate, but the committee was able to pull out
a detail from Chambers that could only be known by
someone who was close with Hiss. It was about one
of Alger Hiss's little known hobbies.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Alger Hiss is saying, I don't even know this guy.
I mean, we may have met once or twice, but
he's acting like we're best friends. So Whittaker Chambers, one
of the things the committee got in private was tell
us everything you know about this guy. You're claiming you
know him inside and out. So Whittaker Chambers is describing
all of these things about Alger Hiss. And one fact

(41:50):
that was not known about Alger Hizzs was that he
was an avid bird watcher. And this isn't a secret hearing,
so Algi Hiss doesn't know this, the press doesn't know this.
Then Hiss comes in, one of the committee members just
casually brings up something about a profitatory warbler and I'm
probably mispronouncing this, but some obscure bird. And suddenly, you know,

(42:11):
Algeriss like lights up and he starts describing the time
he saw a profitatory warbler and the entire committee and
all of the FBI agents know at that moment Algeriss
is lying. Whittaker Chambers is telling the truth. But the
leader of all of this and a lot of Republicans,
you know, they didn't know what to think of Republicans
on the committee. Nixon was dogged on this.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
America awaits the verdict don communism in high places. But
the committee says, one or the other, we'll go to
jail for perjury.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
But in the end it was all circumstantial. Whittaker Chambers
hadn't produced any solid evidence proving his claims, and it
looked like time had run out.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
In nineteen forty eight, climaxing a whirlwind stumping tour of
the United States, President Truman, a man who had carried
his fight to the people, was cheered by supporting New Yorkers.
Democrats had almost conceded the election.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
The presidential election of nineteen forty eight appeared to be
in the bag for the Republicans. The GP was expecting
a landslide victory. The Chicago Daily Tribune even went to
print with the headline Dewey defeats Truman. But when the
final tally came in, President Truman won a stunning upset.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
One dramatic woman. Republican dreams were swept away. As the
pivotal states of Ohio, California, and Illinois entered the Truman camp,
the Dewey Warren fight was over. Mister Dewey solemnly spoke
to the nation.

Speaker 18 (43:37):
I've sent the following wire to President Truman. My heartiest
congratulations to you on your election and every good wish
for a successful administration. I heard all Americans the unite
behind you in support of every effort to keep our
nation strong and free and to establish peace in the world.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
With the Democrat win, many began to speculate that the
Huach Committee would be stalled or even eliminated. Richard nixon
supporters urged him to drop the alger Hiss case, warning
that it would ruin his career if he continued. But
Nixon sensed the ivy leaguer was lying. He pressed on,
and he was about to get a lucky break. After

(44:20):
the Huok hearings, Algeris sued Whittaker Chambers for defamation. That
case was making its way through court, so Chambers decided
to pull out the big guns. Throughout the Huyk hearings.
Nixon asked if Chambers could produce any documentation proving that
alger Hiss was a Soviet spy. Chambers offered nothing until
he was sued for defamation. Now facing a seventy five

(44:42):
thousand dollars lawsuit, Chambers decided to pull out his trump card.
When Chambers left the Communist Party, he decided to save
some documents as insurance and case they came after him.
Classified government documents he claimed alger Hiss passed along to
him to give to the Soviets. He transferred the documents
to microfilm and hid them in a pumpkin p again

(45:04):
and culture.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
He had the microfiche that had been passed to him
by Algerias sitting in a hollowed out pumpkin on his farm.
Nixon produces these.

Speaker 23 (45:15):
I am holding in my hand a microfilm a very
highly confidential secret State Department document. These documents were fed
out of the State Department over ten years ago by
Communists who were employees of that department and who were
interested in seeing that these documents were sent to the
Soviet Union, where the interests of the Soviet Union happened

(45:37):
to be in conflict with those of the United States.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
It's an electric moment. It proves that Algeriss.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Has been lying, and Richard Milhouse Nixon was the one
that uncovered them. The finding made the young Grisman a

(46:03):
national hero among Republicans. He was the quintessential anti communist
crusader that never gave up. But his time on the
Huac Committee gained Richard many enemies, and in the years
that followed, those enemies would grow in number and power.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Coming up on red pilled America.

Speaker 10 (46:25):
My fellow Americans, I come before you tonight as a
candidate for the Vice presidents whire and write the Republican
National Committee whether you think I should stay on or whether.

Speaker 14 (46:35):
I should get on.

Speaker 10 (46:36):
For once, gentlemen, I would appreciate if you would write
what I'm saying. And as I leave the press, all
I can say is this, for sixteen years, ever since
the his case, you've had a lot of fought if
you've had an opportunity to attack me, and I think
I've given as good as I've taken. But as I
leave you, I want you to know, just think how

(46:57):
much you're going to be messing. You don't have nexton
to kick around anymore, because gentlemen, this is my last
press conference, And I hope that what I have said
today will at least make television, radio, the press recognize
that they have a right and a responsibility if they're
against a candidate, giv him the shaft, but also recognize,

(47:20):
if they give him the shaft, put one lonely reporter
on the campaign who will report what the candidate says now,
and then thank you, gentlemen, and good day.

Speaker 22 (47:29):
Do you feel it's ironical that the man that is
now President of the United States, Richard Nixon, was the
man who was largely responsible for carrying through your chin
in the first place.

Speaker 17 (47:40):
Maybe ironic is a good choice of words.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
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