May 19, 2025 • 23 mins
Today on the show Loren first speaks on the sadden news of former president Joe Biden announcing his Prostate Cancer, in which she sends her love and support. Also, she gets into the latest details of the Diddy trial recapping the comments from Cassie and her husband Alex Fine after her last day of testimony and Dawn Richardson, the former member of Danity Kane comments on her experience working with Diddy. Loren, also addresses the backlash from some that did not like her comments towards the trial.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Geist.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody. You know, if you don't lie about that, right,
Lauren came, Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's Lauren L. Rosa and this is the latest with
Lauren L. Rosa.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
This is your daily dig on everything pop culture, entertainment news,
in the conversations that really shake the room. I am
your host with the most as always, and today here
with me Telor Gang Dude. We actually over the weekend
went to Atlantic City. It was tell Or's birthday. Jess
Hilarious had a comedy show just as funny as hell,
(00:38):
Like my first Was that your first time seeing her
on stage?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
No, that's my second.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay, that was my first time seeing Jess on stage.
Of course, you know, I work with her here at
the Breakfast Club. But seeing her on stage and like
in her element and in her stand up bag, I
was just like wow, like I it blew me away,
Like I expected her to be good. But I feel
like being on stage and doing stand up is such
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a hard thing to do. But doing it and like
being able to show that you're a star while doing it,
only few people can do that. And when I was
watching Jess on stage, I'm like, Yo, here's it, Like
this is this is her superstar element right here? Like
this this right here, Nigga, Like this is.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It for her? Like this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
She was so funny and it just was like I
feel like she carried the story throughout from top to bottom.
I felt like I was watching a movie. It was right,
like all the jokes connected with the joke before. It
had like the overarching thing. She just did her thing, y'all.
She did her things, so shout out to Jess. My
mom wanted to this special, get her a special, right.
I told her that to this morning. I'm like, Yo,
(01:41):
why haven't you shot a special yet? Like what we
just what I just watched in Atlantic City needs to
be a special, she says. She's, you know, just trying
to figure it out. But my mom was excited. It
was that was one of her mother's day gifts. She
kept asking she wanted to go see Jess on stage
in person, and then she.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Was so excited to meet you.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And she loves the fact that you're about to have
a baby.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, my god. Now she keeps talking to me about her.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Baby, like you trying to give Larry one, give me one,
like you just want to randomly walk around with my
baby for nine months and give it to me.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Look at Jess.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
But I'm feeling amazing. This weekend was good. I got
to sleep a lot. Court drained me last week. How
you feel.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I'm tired, my legs hurt. I'm getting me massage later.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Oh wore because we did a lot of walking in
Atlantic City, a lot of walk that whole weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I just feel like it's been up on my feet
a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I don't know how to sit down.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We had a good time though, you know. I love
your family, your family that you're building. I love Patrick
big Patrick not to Patrick and her belly, and then
my family got to meet you guys as well too.
We just always feels like family with y'alls. Thank y'all
for accepting me all my craziness. Yes, but getting right
on into the latest. Man, Oh this is this is
(02:58):
a really tough one for me. Recent news broke that
Joe Biden, former President Joe Biden, is actually has been
diagnosed with an aggressive state of prostate cancer. I received
the statement from the personal office of former President Joe Biden,
and this is how it read. Last week, President Joe
Biden was seen for a new finding of a prostate
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nodule after experiencing increasing urinary symptoms. On Friday, he was
diagnosed with prostate cancer, characterized by a Gleason score of
nine grade group of five, with metastasists to the bone,
which means it spread to his bones. While this represents
a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears
to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective treatment. The
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President and his family are reviewing treatment options with physicians.
When I tell you, guys, it triggered me so much
when I read that, because my mom is a stage
four cancer survivor a lung and brain and I remember
when at the time when we found out. I've talked
about it here on the podcast with you Taylor. When
we found out, we have been going back and forth
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to the hospitals, like probably we were. I was living
in the hospital at that point up here in New
York because my mom wanted to come to specialists up
here and they had overlooked it for a year, and
I just didn't understand how you could overlook something like that,
and cancer, it just moves so fast, and it just
does all of these things, and so when I heard that,
the first thing I thought of is like, how could
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this happen? Like he's the former president, he's a recent
former president, he's an older man. I'm like, what's happening
during his appointments? Like, are you guys not testing him?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Why not? If so?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
He's also really big because his son, when his sons
passed away with cancer. Him and his wife Joe Biden,
like in Delaware, they lead so and just across the world,
you know, the nation, they lead so much conversations around
like cancer research and funding and just you know, education
around it and so many things.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm like, this is unfair, Like how did this happen
to him?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I don't get it in and it doesn't mean it's
the end because you get cancer, but it's just I
don't know. I just all weekend I've been asking how
this makes no sense?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
How could this have happened?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Think about it like he's always working, Like how does
he go to the doctors?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I don't know how that works with the president, but
I'm assuming it's pretty often because I don't necessarily. But
also two there's a thing of is like even if
he was going to the doctors, you know, there are cancers, cancer,
cancer reacts.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Each type of.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Cancer is different, each level of cancer is different, and
cancer shows up differently for different people.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So like I know people who their cancer was it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Was aggressive from the start of them trying to fight it,
And I googled it because I just wanted to make
sure what prostate cancer that that you know, was something
that could happen.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And when I.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Googled his his type of cancer, his level of cancer
that they mentioned, I did see online that it can
be aggressive from the offset, from the outset, I'm sorry,
and can be aggressive from the outset, which means it
can enter your body in that manner. But the fact
that they're saying that you know he will be able
to effectively management that means that they do believe that
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he's going to be responsive to treatments is a really
good thing. I just, man, I was so confused when
I saw this, Like I had so many questions, But
there was a lot of outpouring of love for him,
which I was happy to see because I know a
lot of times people like to make things so politics
and not about the person, and he is a person
with a wife and a family and grandkids and you
know you don't want I don't wish bad on anybody, yea,
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and you shouldn't do it over politics or political beliefs.
But Kamala Harris posted for a former VP, Kamala Harris
posted how her and her husband Doug were sad and
to learn that the president's prostate cancer diagnosis. They're keeping
him in his prayers and they're in his entire family
and the prayers at the time. But she said, you know,
Joe is a fighter, and I know he will face
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this challenge with the same strength and resilience and optimism
that has always defined his life and his leadership. We
are hopeful for a full and speedy recovery. Even Donald
Trump was humane in this, which I was gonna be
pissed off if he was not, he said. Melanie and
I are sadden to hear about Joe Biden's recent medical diagnosis.
We extend our warmants and best wishes to Jill in
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the family and wish Joe a fast and speedy recovery.
I had tweeted, you know, just talking about how messed
up cancer is, because it's kind of like a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
It's like you don't know when it's gonna come.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It gets me like even talking about it right now,
right like, and that's how I felt when I saw this.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'm like, wait, what, no, Like this is not fair.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
He's older, Like why does he have to go through
the treatments and be tired and all of those things.
But I just wish him well and I know right
now it's important for him to be covered by a
lot of love, surrounded by a lot of love by family,
and to stay hopeful. But in other news, cause you know,
love to take you out of court, lot to take
you out of court. We are headed back on over
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to the courtroom with Diddy this week. This is technically
week three of the trial if you're in clouding the
jury selection. But now we are moving on to our
second witness. So victim Jane, who is the other witness
that a lot of people were thinking we're going to,
We're going to it was going to be an explosive testimony,
(08:15):
has now took the stand. We now know that victim
Jane is Dawn Richard or Dawn Richard's formerly of Dannity
Kane and Dirty Money, which were bands that did he created.
She worked with Diddy from two thousand and nine to
a little after twenty eleven. But I actually I got
to meet her when I did an event a few
months ago for Black Radiance and Cross Colors, the clothing brand,
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and she performed and we met there and you know,
exchanged phone information and have talked a bit. So I
was always wondering how it was going to be because
I knew she would probably end up in court potentially.
She came in after Cassie finished her last Dad testimony.
And Cassie finished that testimony, she finished a strong I
think Diddy's team, I think they messed up a lot.
(08:57):
I think last week the prosecution definitely took you know,
there were a lot of things that they were trying
to prove or disprove when it came to Cassie's credibility
about you know, when she was actually sexually assaulted and
some of the stories she told.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And I think that they didn't understand that.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Number one, a lot of people are going to always
revert back to all of the physical violence that we
saw her have to go through and endure and have
the conversations about Stockholm syndrome and her making these decisions
because she was in love with a man and you know,
and that's common for a person in her seat. And
I actually did NBC New York on Friday to recap
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my day, and one of the questions that I was asked,
or one of the things that we talked about, was like,
you know, there was reporters in the courtroom who really
couldn't understand how even in talking about him on the stand,
Cassie said things like I still don't hate him. She
said things like, you know, he was charming, this man
was full of life, and she didn't seem.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Malicious on the stand whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And I'm like, no, I can understand that if you've
ever met him and it kind of experienced his personality,
you understand what drew her in. But then when you
see her go through all of that abuse, you understand
what you know, what I mean, like where her mind
and her thinking it would have been.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'm not gonna lie though.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The defense was really good at bringing those things to
the forefront and putting them in your mind and making
you have to have a conversation about what you believe
in what you don't believe.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
But I don't think that it fared well for them
at all.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I do believe that the prosecution is you know, doing
a really good job right now, if even subtly about
making sure the jury doesn't remember, does not forget that
Diddy has been very viciously violent physically to one of
the main women in his life and a lot at
the time of a lot of this, who was involved
in a lot of this. So it's like, what else
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is he capable of? And I think that that's the thing.
And now enters Don Richard and her testimony, and Yo,
she got understand Friday tell her they barely let my
home girls speak, right, Maybe not, I say, my homegirl,
they're gonna be like, Yo, they've been on me.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
They're gonna be like Lauren is being biased.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, she got on the stand and she began telling
the story about an incident she claims that she saw
in two thousand and nine. And in two thousand and nine,
she basically said that she saw Diddy and Cassie get
into it physically because of food. I guess he wanted
food that wasn't finished, and you know, it was a
whole thing, and he Cassie over the head.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Allegedly Cassie fell in the fetal position.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The next day, he came in on some don't say
nothing about this, because people who say stuff about things
like this when it comes to me, allegedly he said,
they go missing.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So the prosecutors are like, oh, no, you're honor.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
We need to be able to have her testified because
this shows like an environment of fear that he created
which made it easier for him to coerce and fear
force people to do stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Diddy's team is like.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Nah, y'all not about to put every single person that
has had a physical, physically violent experience with Diddy on
this stand. We've admitted to him being physically violent, but
y'all not about to do that. It's not relevant. This
isn't a domestic violence case. The judge said, well, we're
gonna figure this out on Monday, and miss Richard will
see you on Monday.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
So she's coming.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
She's coming back this week to testify. And I think
they're gonna have to probably limit and be very I
mean they do this anyway, not limit, but they're just
gonna have to be on our p's and q's about
what they object on and not object on. But I think,
to be honest, I'm not for sure if I think
that Dawn's testimony is gonna be, you know, one of
the ones that brings it home. I feel like James Cruz,
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who was a former manager of Cassie and a long term, a.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Long time business person with Ditty.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He worked with Ditty for a very very long time,
and I think he's gonna be a strong witness because
he has no ties in this. He's not suing anything. Civilly,
he wasn't in a relationship with Puff. Yes, he worked
with him for a bit, but he has no ties
in this. It doesn't serve him either way. To be
on that stand.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
People can argue that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh, Dawn has a civil lawsuit, so she's trying to
be awarded money, so that's why she's here.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
People can argue that about Cassie.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The defense is focusing on that so much like they're
trying to dismiss all of the violence and all the
things that we've seen with Diddy and focus in on vengeance,
money and jealousy. But it's like on his side, Yeah,
But I feel like I get what they're doing, but
I don't think it's playing well for them because the
violence that we saw was so much like seeing photos
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of Cassie and watching that video, like He's not on
trial for domesic violence. But I mean, if you're physically
violent like that, of course people are going to be scared, right,
And that's what people are leaning into, not people, and
that's what the prosecution is trying to lean into. And
going into this week, I'm going to be interested to
see how Diddy's defense team kind of blocks those things
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without downplaying what happened.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And what we saw.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, and Aubrey, well, I was gonna say, I was
gonna ask you about that, Aubrey, Yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
People were wondering if Aubrey was going to going on
the whole thing for a few years with him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yes, and people were saying she was vindicated when all
this news came out, But she had posted a photo
saying she was coming to New York and then and
she got here to New York. It actually ended up
right here in the iHeart Building doing tj Amy's podcast,
and she talked about the fact that she was not testifying.
She was reached out to buy the prosecutors by the Feds.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
They did interview.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Her, have a conversation with her, but they decided not
to use her, and we don't know why, and I
don't think that we ever will, because for them it's
a strategy thing. But if she had been picked to
no way, she would have been posting like New York,
what's up?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'm here? Yeah, there's no way.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I like, these things are so discreet, like when you
are becoming a witness of the prosecutors and the government, like,
it is very very discreet.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So I ain't no way she about to be running around.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And honestly, I think if right, if I'm prosecutors, and
this is just my opinion, if I'm prosecutors and I'm
gathering my case, I would go with because Dawn Richard
and Aubrial Day represent very similar times in the story
because of the making the band and all that stuff. Right,
they both have two different experiences, but it's differ timelines.
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I think if you're leaning into Cassie so much because
Cassie is, uh, you know, the person that we've seen
be physically abused so much by Diddy and you and
you're a prosecutor, and you want to prove that because
of this physical violence and you know, all these things,
he's able to make people do what he wants them
to do without any rebuttal or without pushing back because
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they're scared of his threats because they know that they're
not empty. I would lean into and I'm choosing Dawn
to get on the stand from that time period because
Dawn is a leeging she saw things happened to Cassie,
and Diddy's attorneys argue, well, Cassie herself didn't even get
on the stand and talk about that, so how can
we infer how she felt by that moment?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How do we even know it's true? He said in
the courtroom, we're going to move the set it it's
not even true.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
But how are we going to determine how she felt
when she didn't even go on the stand and talk
about herself?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Did she talk about all the incidents that happened though, Tailor?
And that is why you are smart? No, there's no way.
And they were together tend.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Of legs, That's what I'm saying. So why are they
saying like because she didn't mention.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It, there's no way.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I think that's why the judge is, you know,
willing to hear it out, because it's like, we know
that she was physically abused, we saw it. You can't
get around that. She doesn't have to detail every incident
because we know that it happened. Now, the conversation is,
because it happened, did all of this other stuff happen?
And let's focus on that, and let's not focus on
what did and didn't happen because we know that she
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was physically abused. Now, to Diddy's defense team's point, do
we know if Cassie herself would have corroborated, like, yes,
this actually happened what Dawn said is true?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
We can we can't infer that.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
And that's the point that they're trying to make, is like,
we don't even know if this really happened because Cassie
yourself didn't say that it happened, because there's no police report,
there's no this, there's no that.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
But I don't think that that takes away I think
you leave that up for a jeury to decide. You
leave it up for a jury to decide. Okay, because
we know he is capable of this, was he capable
of that? And if he was, does it equal to
all of the counts and all of the things that
the government is alleging.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That's not for the attorneys to decide.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
It's not fair because you're automatically going to cancel things
out because you're his attorney.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But I will say though, in the beginning of this,
I was like, Yo, plus legal team is on point,
and they are on point, and I felt like they
were doing really good at creating these like big gaps
and holes and stories.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
But me and they leaned too much into the wrong things.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And I talked about it on my social media make
sure you follow me at Laura La Roza everywhere where
I do breakdowns. Right after I leave the court, I
did a video and I named three ways that I,
in my opinion, I believe Diddy's legal team messed up
during the final day of testimony for Cassie. In order
to explain a bit more now real quick, as we enclose,
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take y'all to the streets, to the tweets.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Be outside, we outside, we outside, outside of tweets every
other page. One of the things that I've realized.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And Taylor, I know you'd be on social, but like
I know you'd be like kind of in your own
world on social, So I don't know if you've been
seeing it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Like over the weekend, one of my videos were really
really viral.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
It was the one where I was talking about Diddy's
legal team debunking a lot of Cassie's testimony on the stand,
and oh my god, it made people mad. People were like, oh,
she's not a girl's girl. And I'm not even gonna
read some of the comments because they was crazy on Twitter.
But all I did was tweet the video and the
caption of the video I think it said like week two,
(18:24):
I'm gonna find it. I think it said like week two,
Day two, here it goes. So I tweeted a video
and I said, full recap from Cassie's first day testifying
against Diddy is live, and a caption of the video
on YouTube that I linked to says Cassie's first day
across examination dot dot dot wasn't good and here's why
I said that. And I want you guys to go
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take a listen to this video. So on my YouTube channel.
It's on my instagram as well. YouTube is lauraa Rosa TV.
Instagram is laurla Rosa. And me, I'm like, people just
hear what they want to hear, and that's okay. But
in the video, I'm having a conversation about how I
felt like Cassie as a star witness who we know
has been physically abused, who has she has things that
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Diddy cannot deny because it's on camera, right. I just
felt like prosecutors should have protected her better and prepared
her better for certain things. There were text messages, you know,
she said that she didn't prosecutors.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
There was like a lot of things like that. Yeah,
so they're saying, you're not because.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I should have instantly just I should instantly just take
up for Cassie. And I will say in this trial
and in anything that I report, I'm never going to
just did not like, not see everything first and make
a final decision at the end of each day out
of court. I have been saying, okay today, if I
was a juror, I would have voted this way or
voted that way. But it changes day to day. Some
days it leans in favor of you know, Diddy's legal
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team for that day. Other days it's Cassie for that day.
But because I'm not like Diddy, lock Diddy up and
throw away the key. And I've been saying from the
beginning that he's going to jail. There's no way he
ain't going to jail. Now, I don't know if it's
going to be for the rest of his life, like
the prosecution once, but he's definitely going to jail.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
He's guilty of some things.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They're upset about that in this video, especially after following
her last dad testimony. This video went so viral because
I'm being honest about how I felt watching her on
that stand, not able to answer certain things or not
being able to track certain things, and I don't be
and on Friday, I was so confused about how I felt.
I didn't even post a video because I didn't want
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to misspeak on behalf of her you know, sexual assault
victims and things of that nature. I literally didn't even
post a video breaking down what happened in court because
I didn't want to talk about that because they lean
so much on her last dad testimony about her getting
her dates wrong of the actual alleged rape in her home.
She had said August and then she said September. I
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didn't even get into that. And the reason why I
didn't was because at first, I'm like, Okay, I get
what they're trying to do. They're trying to blow up
her credibility, and then I to like hours I did'tven
post until nothing until the next day. I had conversations
with people and you know, just sat there with myself
and I'm like, I thought about, like, yo, if that's
a traumatic experience, I don't care what you found and
where it's written down at.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
You might get that wrong. Yeah, but my thought.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Process naturally, and I think that that's why a lot
of people are gravitating toward my content is because I'm
being honest about how I feel in the moment. Naturally,
my first thought was, wait, how could you not remember
that date? But I'm also not a survivor of sexual
assung I don't know what that's like. I don't know
how traumatic that is. I don't know what that dusty
your brain and your think through, you know what I'm saying.
So people are upset about that. How do you feel
(21:36):
do you feel like I have to be like no,
I think.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
It's they're not there in the court with you, so
you're only going by your own judgment with it. And
then like, especially too, I'm seeing it on the media,
So you know, media could turn people's thoughts and persuade
them a whole other side too.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, but because you're getting the real deal of it.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's more genuine and more factual personally.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
As long as I do everything with great intention and
you know, I, for instance, like Friday, I didn't jump
to this record a video because I'm like, I do
want to be respectful of people who have going through
you know, alleged sexual assault or domestic violence in general.
Like you know what I'm saying. So I'm being careful
with it. I'm being a responsible That's what the word
(22:28):
I'm looking for. As long as I keep my level
of responsibility intact, I'm okay, and I'm good with that,
and I'm good with the I'm good with where I am.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Period. So that has been another episode of the Latest
with Lauren L. Rosa.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
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This is your daily dig on everything pop culture, entertainment news,
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with me Telor Gang Dude. We actually over the weekend
went to Atlantic City. It was tell Or's birthday. Jess
Hilarious had a comedy show just as funny as hell,
(00:38):
Like my first Was that your first time seeing her
on stage?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
No, that's my second.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay, that was my first time seeing Jess on stage.
Of course, you know, I work with her here at
the Breakfast Club. But seeing her on stage and like
in her element and in her stand up bag, I
was just like wow, like I it blew me away,
Like I expected her to be good. But I feel
like being on stage and doing stand up is such
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a hard thing to do. But doing it and like
being able to show that you're a star while doing it,
only few people can do that. And when I was
watching Jess on stage, I'm like, Yo, here's it, Like
this is this is her superstar element right here? Like
this this right here, Nigga, Like this is.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It for her? Like this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
She was so funny and it just was like I
feel like she carried the story throughout from top to bottom.
I felt like I was watching a movie. It was right,
like all the jokes connected with the joke before. It
had like the overarching thing. She just did her thing, y'all.
She did her things, so shout out to Jess. My
mom wanted to this special, get her a special, right.
I told her that to this morning. I'm like, Yo,
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why haven't you shot a special yet? Like what we
just what I just watched in Atlantic City needs to
be a special, she says. She's, you know, just trying
to figure it out. But my mom was excited. It
was that was one of her mother's day gifts. She
kept asking she wanted to go see Jess on stage
in person, and then she.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Was so excited to meet you.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And she loves the fact that you're about to have
a baby.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, my god. Now she keeps talking to me about her.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Baby, like you trying to give Larry one, give me one,
like you just want to randomly walk around with my
baby for nine months and give it to me.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Look at Jess.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
But I'm feeling amazing. This weekend was good. I got
to sleep a lot. Court drained me last week. How
you feel.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I'm tired, my legs hurt. I'm getting me massage later.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Oh wore because we did a lot of walking in
Atlantic City, a lot of walk that whole weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I just feel like it's been up on my feet
a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I don't know how to sit down.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We had a good time though, you know. I love
your family, your family that you're building. I love Patrick
big Patrick not to Patrick and her belly, and then
my family got to meet you guys as well too.
We just always feels like family with y'alls. Thank y'all
for accepting me all my craziness. Yes, but getting right
on into the latest. Man, Oh this is this is
(02:58):
a really tough one for me. Recent news broke that
Joe Biden, former President Joe Biden, is actually has been
diagnosed with an aggressive state of prostate cancer. I received
the statement from the personal office of former President Joe Biden,
and this is how it read. Last week, President Joe
Biden was seen for a new finding of a prostate
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nodule after experiencing increasing urinary symptoms. On Friday, he was
diagnosed with prostate cancer, characterized by a Gleason score of
nine grade group of five, with metastasists to the bone,
which means it spread to his bones. While this represents
a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears
to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective treatment. The
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President and his family are reviewing treatment options with physicians.
When I tell you, guys, it triggered me so much
when I read that, because my mom is a stage
four cancer survivor a lung and brain and I remember
when at the time when we found out. I've talked
about it here on the podcast with you Taylor. When
we found out, we have been going back and forth
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to the hospitals, like probably we were. I was living
in the hospital at that point up here in New
York because my mom wanted to come to specialists up
here and they had overlooked it for a year, and
I just didn't understand how you could overlook something like that,
and cancer, it just moves so fast, and it just
does all of these things, and so when I heard that,
the first thing I thought of is like, how could
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this happen? Like he's the former president, he's a recent
former president, he's an older man. I'm like, what's happening
during his appointments? Like, are you guys not testing him?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Why not? If so?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
He's also really big because his son, when his sons
passed away with cancer. Him and his wife Joe Biden,
like in Delaware, they lead so and just across the world,
you know, the nation, they lead so much conversations around
like cancer research and funding and just you know, education
around it and so many things.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm like, this is unfair, Like how did this happen
to him?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I don't get it in and it doesn't mean it's
the end because you get cancer, but it's just I
don't know. I just all weekend I've been asking how
this makes no sense?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
How could this have happened?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Think about it like he's always working, Like how does
he go to the doctors?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I don't know how that works with the president, but
I'm assuming it's pretty often because I don't necessarily. But
also two there's a thing of is like even if
he was going to the doctors, you know, there are cancers, cancer,
cancer reacts.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Each type of.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Cancer is different, each level of cancer is different, and
cancer shows up differently for different people.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So like I know people who their cancer was it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Was aggressive from the start of them trying to fight it,
And I googled it because I just wanted to make
sure what prostate cancer that that you know, was something
that could happen.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And when I.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Googled his his type of cancer, his level of cancer
that they mentioned, I did see online that it can
be aggressive from the offset, from the outset, I'm sorry,
and can be aggressive from the outset, which means it
can enter your body in that manner. But the fact
that they're saying that you know he will be able
to effectively management that means that they do believe that
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he's going to be responsive to treatments is a really
good thing. I just, man, I was so confused when
I saw this, Like I had so many questions, But
there was a lot of outpouring of love for him,
which I was happy to see because I know a
lot of times people like to make things so politics
and not about the person, and he is a person
with a wife and a family and grandkids and you
know you don't want I don't wish bad on anybody, yea,
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and you shouldn't do it over politics or political beliefs.
But Kamala Harris posted for a former VP, Kamala Harris
posted how her and her husband Doug were sad and
to learn that the president's prostate cancer diagnosis. They're keeping
him in his prayers and they're in his entire family
and the prayers at the time. But she said, you know,
Joe is a fighter, and I know he will face
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this challenge with the same strength and resilience and optimism
that has always defined his life and his leadership. We
are hopeful for a full and speedy recovery. Even Donald
Trump was humane in this, which I was gonna be
pissed off if he was not, he said. Melanie and
I are sadden to hear about Joe Biden's recent medical diagnosis.
We extend our warmants and best wishes to Jill in
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the family and wish Joe a fast and speedy recovery.
I had tweeted, you know, just talking about how messed
up cancer is, because it's kind of like a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
It's like you don't know when it's gonna come.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It gets me like even talking about it right now,
right like, and that's how I felt when I saw this.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'm like, wait, what, no, Like this is not fair.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
He's older, Like why does he have to go through
the treatments and be tired and all of those things.
But I just wish him well and I know right
now it's important for him to be covered by a
lot of love, surrounded by a lot of love by family,
and to stay hopeful. But in other news, cause you know,
love to take you out of court, lot to take
you out of court. We are headed back on over
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to the courtroom with Diddy this week. This is technically
week three of the trial if you're in clouding the
jury selection. But now we are moving on to our
second witness. So victim Jane, who is the other witness
that a lot of people were thinking we're going to,
We're going to it was going to be an explosive testimony,
(08:15):
has now took the stand. We now know that victim
Jane is Dawn Richard or Dawn Richard's formerly of Dannity
Kane and Dirty Money, which were bands that did he created.
She worked with Diddy from two thousand and nine to
a little after twenty eleven. But I actually I got
to meet her when I did an event a few
months ago for Black Radiance and Cross Colors, the clothing brand,
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and she performed and we met there and you know,
exchanged phone information and have talked a bit. So I
was always wondering how it was going to be because
I knew she would probably end up in court potentially.
She came in after Cassie finished her last Dad testimony.
And Cassie finished that testimony, she finished a strong I
think Diddy's team, I think they messed up a lot.
(08:57):
I think last week the prosecution definitely took you know,
there were a lot of things that they were trying
to prove or disprove when it came to Cassie's credibility
about you know, when she was actually sexually assaulted and
some of the stories she told.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And I think that they didn't understand that.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Number one, a lot of people are going to always
revert back to all of the physical violence that we
saw her have to go through and endure and have
the conversations about Stockholm syndrome and her making these decisions
because she was in love with a man and you know,
and that's common for a person in her seat. And
I actually did NBC New York on Friday to recap
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my day, and one of the questions that I was asked,
or one of the things that we talked about, was like,
you know, there was reporters in the courtroom who really
couldn't understand how even in talking about him on the stand,
Cassie said things like I still don't hate him. She
said things like, you know, he was charming, this man
was full of life, and she didn't seem.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Malicious on the stand whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And I'm like, no, I can understand that if you've
ever met him and it kind of experienced his personality,
you understand what drew her in. But then when you
see her go through all of that abuse, you understand
what you know, what I mean, like where her mind
and her thinking it would have been.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'm not gonna lie though.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The defense was really good at bringing those things to
the forefront and putting them in your mind and making
you have to have a conversation about what you believe
in what you don't believe.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
But I don't think that it fared well for them
at all.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I do believe that the prosecution is you know, doing
a really good job right now, if even subtly about
making sure the jury doesn't remember, does not forget that
Diddy has been very viciously violent physically to one of
the main women in his life and a lot at
the time of a lot of this, who was involved
in a lot of this. So it's like, what else
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is he capable of? And I think that that's the thing.
And now enters Don Richard and her testimony, and Yo,
she got understand Friday tell her they barely let my
home girls speak, right, Maybe not, I say, my homegirl,
they're gonna be like, Yo, they've been on me.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
They're gonna be like Lauren is being biased.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, she got on the stand and she began telling
the story about an incident she claims that she saw
in two thousand and nine. And in two thousand and nine,
she basically said that she saw Diddy and Cassie get
into it physically because of food. I guess he wanted
food that wasn't finished, and you know, it was a
whole thing, and he Cassie over the head.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Allegedly Cassie fell in the fetal position.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The next day, he came in on some don't say
nothing about this, because people who say stuff about things
like this when it comes to me, allegedly he said,
they go missing.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So the prosecutors are like, oh, no, you're honor.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
We need to be able to have her testified because
this shows like an environment of fear that he created
which made it easier for him to coerce and fear
force people to do stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Diddy's team is like.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Nah, y'all not about to put every single person that
has had a physical, physically violent experience with Diddy on
this stand. We've admitted to him being physically violent, but
y'all not about to do that. It's not relevant. This
isn't a domestic violence case. The judge said, well, we're
gonna figure this out on Monday, and miss Richard will
see you on Monday.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
So she's coming.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
She's coming back this week to testify. And I think
they're gonna have to probably limit and be very I
mean they do this anyway, not limit, but they're just
gonna have to be on our p's and q's about
what they object on and not object on. But I think,
to be honest, I'm not for sure if I think
that Dawn's testimony is gonna be, you know, one of
the ones that brings it home. I feel like James Cruz,
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who was a former manager of Cassie and a long term, a.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Long time business person with Ditty.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He worked with Ditty for a very very long time,
and I think he's gonna be a strong witness because
he has no ties in this. He's not suing anything. Civilly,
he wasn't in a relationship with Puff. Yes, he worked
with him for a bit, but he has no ties
in this. It doesn't serve him either way. To be
on that stand.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
People can argue that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh, Dawn has a civil lawsuit, so she's trying to
be awarded money, so that's why she's here.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
People can argue that about Cassie.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The defense is focusing on that so much like they're
trying to dismiss all of the violence and all the
things that we've seen with Diddy and focus in on vengeance,
money and jealousy. But it's like on his side, Yeah,
But I feel like I get what they're doing, but
I don't think it's playing well for them because the
violence that we saw was so much like seeing photos
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of Cassie and watching that video, like He's not on
trial for domesic violence. But I mean, if you're physically
violent like that, of course people are going to be scared, right,
And that's what people are leaning into, not people, and
that's what the prosecution is trying to lean into. And
going into this week, I'm going to be interested to
see how Diddy's defense team kind of blocks those things
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without downplaying what happened.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And what we saw.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, and Aubrey, well, I was gonna say, I was
gonna ask you about that, Aubrey, Yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
People were wondering if Aubrey was going to going on
the whole thing for a few years with him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yes, and people were saying she was vindicated when all
this news came out, But she had posted a photo
saying she was coming to New York and then and
she got here to New York. It actually ended up
right here in the iHeart Building doing tj Amy's podcast,
and she talked about the fact that she was not testifying.
She was reached out to buy the prosecutors by the Feds.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
They did interview.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Her, have a conversation with her, but they decided not
to use her, and we don't know why, and I
don't think that we ever will, because for them it's
a strategy thing. But if she had been picked to
no way, she would have been posting like New York,
what's up?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'm here? Yeah, there's no way.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I like, these things are so discreet, like when you
are becoming a witness of the prosecutors and the government, like,
it is very very discreet.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So I ain't no way she about to be running around.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And honestly, I think if right, if I'm prosecutors, and
this is just my opinion, if I'm prosecutors and I'm
gathering my case, I would go with because Dawn Richard
and Aubrial Day represent very similar times in the story
because of the making the band and all that stuff. Right,
they both have two different experiences, but it's differ timelines.
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I think if you're leaning into Cassie so much because
Cassie is, uh, you know, the person that we've seen
be physically abused so much by Diddy and you and
you're a prosecutor, and you want to prove that because
of this physical violence and you know, all these things,
he's able to make people do what he wants them
to do without any rebuttal or without pushing back because
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they're scared of his threats because they know that they're
not empty. I would lean into and I'm choosing Dawn
to get on the stand from that time period because
Dawn is a leeging she saw things happened to Cassie,
and Diddy's attorneys argue, well, Cassie herself didn't even get
on the stand and talk about that, so how can
we infer how she felt by that moment?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How do we even know it's true? He said in
the courtroom, we're going to move the set it it's
not even true.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
But how are we going to determine how she felt
when she didn't even go on the stand and talk
about herself?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Did she talk about all the incidents that happened though, Tailor?
And that is why you are smart? No, there's no way.
And they were together tend.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Of legs, That's what I'm saying. So why are they
saying like because she didn't mention.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It, there's no way.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I think that's why the judge is, you know,
willing to hear it out, because it's like, we know
that she was physically abused, we saw it. You can't
get around that. She doesn't have to detail every incident
because we know that it happened. Now, the conversation is,
because it happened, did all of this other stuff happen?
And let's focus on that, and let's not focus on
what did and didn't happen because we know that she
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was physically abused. Now, to Diddy's defense team's point, do
we know if Cassie herself would have corroborated, like, yes,
this actually happened what Dawn said is true?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
We can we can't infer that.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
And that's the point that they're trying to make, is like,
we don't even know if this really happened because Cassie
yourself didn't say that it happened, because there's no police report,
there's no this, there's no that.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
But I don't think that that takes away I think
you leave that up for a jeury to decide. You
leave it up for a jury to decide. Okay, because
we know he is capable of this, was he capable
of that? And if he was, does it equal to
all of the counts and all of the things that
the government is alleging.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That's not for the attorneys to decide.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
It's not fair because you're automatically going to cancel things
out because you're his attorney.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But I will say though, in the beginning of this,
I was like, Yo, plus legal team is on point,
and they are on point, and I felt like they
were doing really good at creating these like big gaps
and holes and stories.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
But me and they leaned too much into the wrong things.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And I talked about it on my social media make
sure you follow me at Laura La Roza everywhere where
I do breakdowns. Right after I leave the court, I
did a video and I named three ways that I,
in my opinion, I believe Diddy's legal team messed up
during the final day of testimony for Cassie. In order
to explain a bit more now real quick, as we enclose,
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take y'all to the streets, to the tweets.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Be outside, we outside, we outside, outside of tweets every
other page. One of the things that I've realized.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And Taylor, I know you'd be on social, but like
I know you'd be like kind of in your own
world on social, So I don't know if you've been
seeing it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Like over the weekend, one of my videos were really
really viral.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
It was the one where I was talking about Diddy's
legal team debunking a lot of Cassie's testimony on the stand,
and oh my god, it made people mad. People were like, oh,
she's not a girl's girl. And I'm not even gonna
read some of the comments because they was crazy on Twitter.
But all I did was tweet the video and the
caption of the video I think it said like week two,
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I'm gonna find it. I think it said like week two,
Day two, here it goes. So I tweeted a video
and I said, full recap from Cassie's first day testifying
against Diddy is live, and a caption of the video
on YouTube that I linked to says Cassie's first day
across examination dot dot dot wasn't good and here's why
I said that. And I want you guys to go
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take a listen to this video. So on my YouTube channel.
It's on my instagram as well. YouTube is lauraa Rosa TV.
Instagram is laurla Rosa. And me, I'm like, people just
hear what they want to hear, and that's okay. But
in the video, I'm having a conversation about how I
felt like Cassie as a star witness who we know
has been physically abused, who has she has things that
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Diddy cannot deny because it's on camera, right. I just
felt like prosecutors should have protected her better and prepared
her better for certain things. There were text messages, you know,
she said that she didn't prosecutors.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
There was like a lot of things like that. Yeah,
so they're saying, you're not because.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I should have instantly just I should instantly just take
up for Cassie. And I will say in this trial
and in anything that I report, I'm never going to
just did not like, not see everything first and make
a final decision at the end of each day out
of court. I have been saying, okay today, if I
was a juror, I would have voted this way or
voted that way. But it changes day to day. Some
days it leans in favor of you know, Diddy's legal
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team for that day. Other days it's Cassie for that day.
But because I'm not like Diddy, lock Diddy up and
throw away the key. And I've been saying from the
beginning that he's going to jail. There's no way he
ain't going to jail. Now, I don't know if it's
going to be for the rest of his life, like
the prosecution once, but he's definitely going to jail.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
He's guilty of some things.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They're upset about that in this video, especially after following
her last dad testimony. This video went so viral because
I'm being honest about how I felt watching her on
that stand, not able to answer certain things or not
being able to track certain things, and I don't be
and on Friday, I was so confused about how I felt.
I didn't even post a video because I didn't want
(20:29):
to misspeak on behalf of her you know, sexual assault
victims and things of that nature. I literally didn't even
post a video breaking down what happened in court because
I didn't want to talk about that because they lean
so much on her last dad testimony about her getting
her dates wrong of the actual alleged rape in her home.
She had said August and then she said September. I
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didn't even get into that. And the reason why I
didn't was because at first, I'm like, Okay, I get
what they're trying to do. They're trying to blow up
her credibility, and then I to like hours I did'tven
post until nothing until the next day. I had conversations
with people and you know, just sat there with myself
and I'm like, I thought about, like, yo, if that's
a traumatic experience, I don't care what you found and
where it's written down at.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
You might get that wrong. Yeah, but my thought.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Process naturally, and I think that that's why a lot
of people are gravitating toward my content is because I'm
being honest about how I feel in the moment. Naturally,
my first thought was, wait, how could you not remember
that date? But I'm also not a survivor of sexual
assung I don't know what that's like. I don't know
how traumatic that is. I don't know what that dusty
your brain and your think through, you know what I'm saying.
So people are upset about that. How do you feel
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do you feel like I have to be like no,
I think.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
It's they're not there in the court with you, so
you're only going by your own judgment with it. And
then like, especially too, I'm seeing it on the media,
So you know, media could turn people's thoughts and persuade
them a whole other side too.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, but because you're getting the real deal of it.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's more genuine and more factual personally.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
As long as I do everything with great intention and
you know, I, for instance, like Friday, I didn't jump
to this record a video because I'm like, I do
want to be respectful of people who have going through
you know, alleged sexual assault or domestic violence in general.
Like you know what I'm saying. So I'm being careful
with it. I'm being a responsible That's what the word
(22:28):
I'm looking for. As long as I keep my level
of responsibility intact, I'm okay, and I'm good with that,
and I'm good with the I'm good with where I am.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Period. So that has been another episode of the Latest
with Lauren L. Rosa.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Thank you guys so much for tuning it on. In
Low Riders, y'all are like my community. Y'all have been
shown up for me across social and because of that,
we've been able to do things and gold places. And
I mean I went to NBC New York here at
thirty Rock and the first thing that they wanted to
talk to me about was the podcast and the Low
Riders and how excited they are and the fact that
they listen to the podcast.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So continue listening.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Continue to tell a friend, and tell a friend that
right here, right now is the time to get your
entertainment news factual, firsthand and very strongly opinionated from Lorna Rosa.
With the latest with Laura de Rosa, tweet me, Instagram
me let me know. I know how you guys folt
about this episode. As always, I love to engage. I'm
Lauraa Rosa and I will see you guys in my
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