December 12, 2024 • 31 mins
The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Gizelle Bryant To Discuss Love Hotel,' RHOP,' Mia Thornton Being 'Dead To Her, Eminem Lawsuit. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody is d J n V, jess Larius Chelamaine the God.
We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
In the building.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
That's right, we have j O Brian Welcome. How are
you feeling.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm feeling so good.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I was gonna name all the stuff that the Real
Housewives of Potomac. I was gonna say, shady podcast podcast,
Straight and Reasonably Shady podcast, Rob and you show love Hotel.
You're doing so much. I'm doing a lot, making a
lot of money out there.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yes, well, you know we got the dad for the
college tuition. Thank praise Sam, keep preaching, preacher. But Jesus, yes, yes, yes,
but yeah, I'm doing a lot, and I'm you know,
it's good. I'm at a place where I can say
no to things. I'm doing things that like make me happy.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
How was the Real Housewives franchise?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Because you see Housewives being fired, franchises being canceled, rebooted.
New York was canceled and rebooted. I think Dubai has
been canceled. Yes, and a lot of them is they're
saying it trash. So how is Potonmac. It's still being
able to survive for all of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's first, it's potomac.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yes, it's hard, Like the reality TV space is extremely difficult,
and it's it's difficult to like have some longevity. You
have to for Housewives, it's not hard. You guys have
to be friends. It's a show about friendship. So when
you are trying to be toxic, when you're trying to
say stuff to your castmates that's toxic and it's at
(01:36):
the point of no return, then there goes the show.
You can't come back from that. And no viewer wants
to sit in week after week and look at a
show that there's a bunch of women that hate each other.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It becomes unreal.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Hold on, that's the whole point of reality.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But I thought the conflict in the toxic was what God.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
But it's it's a fine line. It's like a dance
you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So it's wake toxicity, it's not hardcore toxicity. And then
you got to have be able to come back and laugh.
You got to be able to come back and make
fun of each other. And it's a girlfriend thing. You know,
you have some toxic girlfriends, right, but you know that
y'all can go out on Saturday and.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Have fun, but somebody's getting cussed out.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah, but it's okay because there's a love there and
you can still like rise above it. Yeah, and then
Sunday we can all talk about what happened, yes, and
that be it. Yeah, and then you know you have
it's a dynamic of like there's some girlfriends that are
just like the wild card, the drunk one, the one
that's always going to like be reserved. It's the dynamic
of the group. But it just can't get to a
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toxic place otherwise you're yes, you're going to be cancered.
Has it ever been a part or a time where
you're like, I don't want to do this to be
able TV? Shit, more like Thursday, I'm about to throw
in a town, Jez.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
You're about to give me five?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yes, of course, I always say, because real TV is tough.
If there is a point in a season in which
you don't feel like you want to quit, then you're
not doing your job.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You have to get to that point.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And for instance, this season, I didn't feel it unto
the end, so and I was checking myself with it
because I was like, I've been kind of like feeling good.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I've been in a great place. I don't feel like
I want to quit.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And and then towards the end of season, I was like, yeah, there, gone, there,
go there, But you have to give it all. If
you don't, then you shouldn't be doing it. And is
that that's so that's recipe to a good season.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Get that feeling. Oh, I was like this, this season
is gonna be fire, and it is.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
To you're the villain a lot and a lot of
these like, well, go at people's personal lives. You'll go
at d you have a relationship, personal env you know.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So we're friends and V I'm just asking.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I'm just asking.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I wanted to show my wife and I'm like, that's
not that youselle.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I know.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I think that anything that is out there on social
media is fair. It's semi fair game. I'll never go
after anybody's mother or child, but yeah, if it's out there,
let's talk about it. And and that's like a good
girlfriend relationship any right, take the cameras away. If something's
going on with my girlfriend, were gonna talk about it.
I'm not gonna get together with her and act like
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it ain't happening. No, let's talk, and it does. And
just because the cameras are there doesn't mean it's shady.
It's how you handle the answer that that you feel
like it is shady.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't think you a villain. I think I think
you throw reasonable shade. Yes, he's the podcast.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yes, you know, Rob is not with us this season,
and so the reasonable of the show has been like
you know, gone.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But I've had to.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Pick up that reasonable part A little bit about it
is that it's difficult part of my personality.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
The thing I like about you though, because it's hard
to build the name outside of the reality show. A
lot of people that becomes their whole identity that have
not been the case for you.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
No, because I leave it there so and that is
when we're filming. I leave it there when I come home.
I'm not trying to talk to my kids about it.
I'm not trying to think about it. It's I look
at it is, it's on camera stuff. I did it
on camera. Now that the cameras are gone, I'm done
with it. Now there's your your kids ever try to
talk to you about it. You got an older baby girl. Yeah,
(05:25):
that she questioned you about some things that she'll see
on there or does that ever happen? Well, they probably
won't mention it. And one of them is here today.
But they're shadier than me.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So if.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know, their mama is me, their father is who
he is, they are some shady kids. So if I
come home and tell them what's going on, they you know,
they get.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
A kick out of it.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, yeah, so they there are times when they're like, ma,
you can't say that, But then there are times where
they're like, good, I'm glad you checked her.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And how do you deal with the blogs right, because
they attack everything that you do? Yes, the way you
decorate your house, the way you dress good, She guccied out.
I don't see the problem like I.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
See her all the time talk about promote me.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
When people take thrives that you can talk about you
when you know it's bys right.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I find it funny because that means if you're talking
about the way that I dressed on my house whatever,
that means you have nothing else right and you're just
not now making up something.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
And yeah, y'all keep talking about me.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So it's like I don't even have to get out
of bed in the morning, like, because y'all are talking
about me, so I actually appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I like the haters.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, they're my friends.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You just did your your first twenty one Questions live
show in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yes, how do you know?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, what I know?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I know anything? Are there going to be other cities? Yes,
so I'm planning that right now. Thank you so much
for asking.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I just that was something that I did on my own.
So we've reasonably Shady has done live shows, yes, but
it's been me and Robin. So it was my first,
you know, Beyonce by herself. It was my first breakout
by myself. I was terrified and I did it and
I felt like I killed it, Like I felt like
I can do this. I felt comfortable, which was personally
(07:12):
I needed that. So yes, I'm now planning the whole tour.
So we're doing West Coast first and then we're gonna
come through Charlotte, do a little Houston, Dallas, and then
come back to New York Atlanta. Yes, so February. So
why were you nervous? What made you nervous?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Because I have a tendency to Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
To know me is to know that I'm very quiet
and to myself and I like to be home in
my my business.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
What yes, yes, so, And I have.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
A tendency to kind of say things that's really on
my mind and it could be a bit much. And
Robin always kind of like checks me in that and
she's just kind of like whoa, Like that was team
too much, like calm down. So I didn't have that person,
and just doing it by myself made me feel like
a I'm gonna mess up, and you know that's a
(08:11):
scary thing, like and if you don't have anybody like
to quote catch you.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
So I did it well, it went well.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I was happy, and now I vis because you're adding
cities and I think that's good.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So congratulations own.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
How did you feel to have the house to yourself?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Because you an empty enough?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yes, okay, so let's talk about it because you're not there.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm nowhere.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
You are nowhere near either of you, Okay, so let's
talk about it.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
At first, I was like super sad because I dropped
off three kids in three cities in seventy two hours.
So it was like a thing and minds you all
my kids go to HBCU shout.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Out to the HBCU going to Hampton Hampton. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Grace is going to fam fam the ones in the
ones that Spelman And she's at a doors at Yes,
she's a freshman. She just finished all of her this
is her first semester. She's rocking.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
What a three point nine four points? Don't get it twisted.
Don't get it twisted. That's next year's conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, I'm just I'm.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
So when I got home, I was super sad, like
I was just like, what am I going to do?
And then the next day I woke up and I
was like, I'm walking around the house naked.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
It's so freeing. I get up when I want to.
I don't have to go to the grocery store. I
don't have to feed anybody.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
This is like.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And all I can, all I have to do is
just think about me.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
And that's a great feeling to just think about yourself
after you've been thinking about and planning around somebody else's
life for a damn near twenty years.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Like it's a nice feeling.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Where you ever, I don't know how to say, have
you how did you feel about them?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Splitting up, like.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
To Hampton and Angel.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
So they both applied to both colleges and they both
got in to Hampton and Spellman. So I was thinking
they were just gonna make the decisions stay together. However,
Angels a better fit for Spellman. A door is a
better fit for Hampton.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
A door at.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Spelman would kill her because it's just not a good
fit for her. It's they're they're very quiet, they're very studious.
They party like once a week. You know, she need
a party like three times a week, so she need
to get it in.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
So I was concerned, but I knew that if they
were were going to split up, they would thrive, and
they are.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
They're thriving.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
How did that even feel having all three of your
kids go to college in h I got four daughters,
a whole ball of them go to college.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
But they have all three, Yeah, ended up going to college.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I didn't realize that.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
It was like, like I did a great job until
people started telling me, they're like, just so this is
a flex, Like you got all three of your girls
in college, a black college.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I'm super proud of them.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I you know, when you're in it, you don't realize
you're what you're doing. And when I was in it,
I didn't realize, like, yeah, I'm making my life all
about them. I'm making sure that they're doing all the
extracurricular stuff and that they're expanding their horizons.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So I felt like this is what I'm supposed to
be doing.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
But now that I see the result of it, I'm like, damn,
I did that thing, and I'm just proud of them
because they are. You know, you want your kids to
live their best life, but they really are, so it's
nice to see.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And you didn't try to influence all of them to
go to Hampden.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I didn't, did I M I mean I wanted listen.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Their dad went to more House, so he wanted one
on them as Spelman, I wanted one of them at Hampton,
and it worked out.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I was gonna ask, when you know co parenting, how
did y'all get to the place where y'all can co
parent that way? Because y'all went through a divorce and
I'm sure it wasn't a nice divorce.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, how did y'all get to.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
A point where y're Of course, of course, so when
y'all got to a place where it was where y'all
both could really co parent and take all the emotions
out of it. How did y'all get there?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
When did that have I'm gonna be honest, it was
it was a lot of me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
That was the problem.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
No, No, it was a lot of I decided when
they because they we got divorced. They were little, they
were like two and three, and I decided. I got
my attorney told me, you got a long road with
this guy. So if you don't like him, if you
think he's a fool, you got to put that in
the back burner because it's about your kids.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So I had to just let it go.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Did he throughout the course of their life pissed me
off every other day?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yes, But I had to let it go.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
And I didn't want them to feel like because we're
getting a divorce, they didn't didn't have a family unit.
So I would invite him to everything. We're going on vacation,
he can come, we're doing dinners, he can come. And
as long as he didn't, you know, clearly pissed me off,
then we can continue to do it. So yeah, I
mean it's tough, but you got to just put your
(13:10):
kids first.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
When you went on vacation or you invited him. Was
he able to bring his new girl or were you?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Now, I mean he could have, he just never did.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, and I in my vacations, I kept it about the.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Kids, okay, because I one was going to ask you
what would have happened to him? But never mind because
change it.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I mean we had we didn't stay in the same room,
so he might have had flown somebody out and I
never saw her. But he kept it respectable in front
of the kids, for sure, which I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I appreciate that. But no, it's not easy.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
And to Jamal's credit, because I had them the majority
of the time, he let me do my thing with
the girls. He wasn't like a helicopter parent and like
trying to question how I was parenting them. So that
was I appreciate that, let me do my thing. And
with you being an open nester, now yes, dating because
(14:05):
getting back to your naked knowledge, I'm sorry, I haven't
even heard the term open nest Jesus, what empty?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I like, open, open, open, open again.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So they facetimey all the time and they see I'm naked,
and they're like, please put some clothes on. So the
whole walking around naked is a thing. It's a good
thing because that like makes you feel sexy.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yes, so yes, the landscape has come more than once
a week and show.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Three times a week.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I don't stand in front the window empty, right, So
it's it's a good feeling.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
And yes, I have been dating.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Your question because I sing on the show you did
speed dating with Ash who was now divorced.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
But yes, how was there? Are you still seeing the
guy from the speed data?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah he's around, Yeah, there's several. You got a roster, Yes,
it's about that. It's because I have the time now.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yes, So if you had time for a roster, you'd
have a roster, that's right. Yeah, and if you weren't
in committed relationships people, which all of you are in.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yes, yes, okay, because I used to have a roster
girl up and down the streets, Chris, Chris, I just
settled down.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, No, I feel like it's my time.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I feel like I'm not going to settle into something
unless it's really, really really right.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, and I earned that.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, do you want to get married again?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So I have said for like the longest time, absolutely,
not like for what like what does that bring to me,
but I might.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I'm open.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
What changed your mind?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Mind? Your business?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm open because I do feel, like, you know, my
kids have never seen like a straight up family unit,
and they don't really understand the concept of what that means.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So if I'm able to give.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
That to them, and if the guy is I'm asane,
then I will.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And is that how? And there will be major prenups
trusts all that handled.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I was just gonna ask you about how you're moving
forward with, Like how do you date now? Because your
last marriage infidelity.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Played a big part in it.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So how are you with trusting who you're even dating
even if it's not exclusive?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Like are you scared?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Like, no, not scared at all. I mean, I think
all of us have trust issues just by nature, we
black people, Like who are we trusting? But at some
point in time you gotta let go. And I I'm
okay with that. I'm okay with being with a man
and I can finally just like let it go. Yeah,
(17:07):
And I'm not the girl to like, I don't know
about you, Jess, but I don't like look through people's
phones and I'm not I'm not like trying to find
I'm not trying to be FBI, I'm not trying to
find out what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I actually just don't care.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
So if you're out here doing something, I'm the easiest
girl to cheat on, because like I just I won't.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I won't.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I'll be the last to though. Yeah, So once you
break the trust, it's a problem.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Kids with your dating with. So they hate everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I'm sure do they nobody good enough for moms.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
But they feel like I just run through them. I mean,
not like that was terrible to let me clean that up, Okay,
do I run through Okay? So they just feel like
I don't take anybody seriously and I don't allow men
(18:03):
to make.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Mistakes that I'm just like onto the next.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
So they don't really even get invested unless they really
see I'm invested.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, how they've been doing the show without Robin.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It was tough. It was tough, you know, Robin. Y'all
know she's notoriously late.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I was always thinking she was going to come into
the scene just late per usual. She was always kind
of like the voice of reason where people are going
left and screaming at each other. She was always looking
at like the bigger picture and we didn't have that.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So, yeah, I missed. I missed, definitely miss her.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Yeah, but she's just opened up a medspa in Colombia.
You know, the target in Columbia. Yeah, in that strip mall.
I hate that, I said the target and Columbia you
knew exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, many targets in Colombia.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, okay, so it's in that in that mall.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Congratulations, Yeah, definitely. It's called Glow thirty.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah. The next time you're in town and it's like
a subscription type of medspot.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
She's she's doing great.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Did you ever think about walking because she said she
got fired? Did you ever think about walking when she
got fight?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I was supposed to quit my job because you got fired.
That's right, I know, that's right. I was supposed to
fumble my bag.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Doubt.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Did y'all have a combo about it?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I'm sure, of course.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Like after she got the call, she immediately called me,
but she kind of felt it coming, you know. Unfortunately,
she's in a situation in which she's with her her
guy Wan, but for whatever reason, people don't like that relationship,
and so year after year she would have to defend it,
and it was kind of like everybody was tired of this,
(19:38):
but you know you shouldn't. You shouldn't have to defend
the person that you have been married to, that you
love constantly, like let it be.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So she's she's not.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
She's stressed free. Right now, I'm the one stressed out
because I'm still on the show. But she's like stress
free and living her best life?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Are you bringing those the people that you're dating on
the show?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
And no, what what are you talkingous? Now?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Don't make the whole faith.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I mean, he's gotta be. So I did the speed dating,
so let me talk about the speed data.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
So he we were.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Going out a couple of times, but then you know,
he really liked me, just like a little too much.
You know, he was like telling me all the time,
and that's kind of like the kiss of death.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You don't like affection.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I don't like infection affection affection. We don't affection. Of course,
you don't like infections affection.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I do, But it's it's a way that he did
too much, too quick, And it's like you just tell
me I'm great once.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Not like all day every day and keep praising yes,
yes that.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Is so.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
What if I really feel that way.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
What if I'm looking at you and I'm like, damn
your god, bless me, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I mean, because then it's the challenge is over for me.
Then you know I got him.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, I to look forward to. Now what else?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, so or tell me in other ways, make it
be a gift, make it you know, don't tell me
what your words tell me with action.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Right, So I did something else in my life I did.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
I can't say I did do a dating show, right,
So I told him about the show before I left,
and that kind of like threw him off and he
couldn't understand it, so he wouldn't thought.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
He was the one and you went, you go ahead
and go on to dating.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah, but I said, I I already got this bag
before I met you, so.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You should have understood.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And he did.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
But he went away for like three months and then
when all of a sudden, he just like reappeared.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
He went away for three months jail or no, went away.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Like out of my line talking. Yeah, way, I don't
mess with those guys anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's in my past.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
So now he's back full throttle. He you know, he
wants to do trips and he wants to do all
the things because now he's putting his his full energy
and attention in it the way that I want to
receive it. That motivated him, That motivated him, So every
now and again, you just got to like let him.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
So when you tell him that, when you say, look, man,
you don't got to tell me I'm great all the time,
how does he react to that?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Just so, I mean, it's just I just want to
express myself. I just want to let you know. And
I mean I haven't, like you know, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I don't really meet women like you all the time.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And it's just yeah, I know player, Like it's just like, wow,
you understand.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Now you're dating somebody. You want to tell us she beautiful,
but you can only tell her once a year.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
You know, people always I heard what she said. You said,
he should also show you. You got to tell me,
show me what your actions. Yes, I can understand that.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yes. And my kids mad him and they was throwing
shade at him.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
So it's just like, yeah, like I said, I need
three months.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So you can't do anybody that's quote unquote average or
broke you because you're talking trips. You took on buy
me expensive gifts.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Daughter is like, nope, okay, thank you putting words in
my mouth.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
All right, you don't have to.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I'm not the Gucci Louis product girl, Like, you don't
have to. Yes on right now, how I bought this
for myself?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Okay, right, I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I don't need that, but you can show me little flowers.
It doesn't have to be it's okay. So to answer
your question, my daddy a man that's broke, Now, that's
that's like, why would I do that?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That was because you're trying to get a politically correct Anthony're.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Like, look, I'm not, and Jess, you can appreciate this.
You've worked hard for where you are stability.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And financialist, right as have I. Why you don't need
to take care of a man?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
No, so it's no. And I don't know who you're with. Yeah,
it's I'm not with somebody I got to take care
thank you. Now. I was in a relationship like that,
a couple of relationships like that, so I definitely know
what you mean. No, I don't want to date nobody broke,
but and I know that because I've dated broke people.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
So that's why I know that she probably never did.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
I've dated broke men and been up you know what
I mean, and try to help and not no.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
No, if he's a great man, everything, you just don't
have the finance.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
So so that can only go so far, and I'm
fine with that, but it can only go like in
the bedroom, and then like where are we going to dinner? No,
you can't pay. Are we going on the trip? No,
I can't afford my tickets, you can't afford yours.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And of course they love you.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, so it's like, where what are we doing here? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I got the show with love Hotel right, hotel?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yes. Now I wanted to ask about the I know
you're still in a lawsuit with Eminem? Did that ever
finish that? Whatever happened with that? Is it over yet?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Y'all could probably appreciate this, y'all probably no more than me. Okay,
So y'all know a guy named Paul Rosenberg managing we
deposed him, and from that, okay, I can't say much.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
From that, I think it's almost over. It's almost over.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
So the our position was Eminem deposed. Eminem's team had
me and Robin deposed, So all is fair in love
and war. We're going to depose eminem. So when our
side said, okay, we need to post him, all hell
broke loose, it was like, oh, no, no, never, he
doesn't even know anything about Well if he doesn't know
anything about this, why are we here?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Because his name is all in the headline.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Right, But that's a lot. I mean you had to
have told him something.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
So because of that, I think that there have decided, Okay,
these girls aren't going away, and like we got to
settle well, Patent and Trade is going to settle it
or figure it out because we're at the end of
the road. All depositions have been done, all disclosures, all all,
and yes, we've spent a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Last how much do you pay your lawyer fees?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
It's still ongoing, but a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
He didn't He don't own the word shady.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
You don't own the word shady. And what they don't
and what we know is there have been other companies,
small companies, insignific not insignatany but small like upstarts, that
have had shady in their name, and they paid them all,
they paid them all to go away, just to make
it go away. We weren't going to do that or
unless y'all didn't offer something that could make us go away.
(25:55):
But no, we're too far in now, and no, it's no,
And I don't even get it, Like, why would you
be doing this to us because we, thank god we
had the money, but let's just say we didn't and
we're just two black women out here just trying to
make a dial out of fifteen cents.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, make sure you subscribe to the Reasonably Shady podcast
on the blacka Ieheart Radio podcast network, available everywhere you
listening to the podcasts.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
There you go and we drop all my dates.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah, world, quick, what is the real beef with Karen
and who you kring to me?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Because you know what one one minute, y'all throwing shade
and y'all supporting each other.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Is there a real beef?
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Is what I should have said, beef any underlying issues.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
To truth be told? I think Karen I obviously we
started to show together. Yeah, let's pray for Karen because
she's going to court next week. I think that in
Karen's mind, she wanted to be whatever she wanted to
be as far as the show was concerned, and she
had a lot of people in her ear and so
(26:55):
I think that that caused her to like come for
me and come for me. Yeah. But I've known Karen
since before the show started, like we were friends, so
I knew what she was doing sometimes on camera was
just some nonsense.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
And I was gonna ride with you with this nonsense.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
But I mean, we've been doing this for so long now,
Like at its core, we love each other. At its core,
we root for each other. But she just comes from
me because.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
She gets bored, got it.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, And I'm okay with that. I'll play, I'll play.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
With you you.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Okay, I just had to except for myself. I watched
the Yes, myself and Ashley is on the show. Yeah,
I've been doing a lot of business together. Yes, yes,
and and actually it's wild.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yes, I don't like. How do y'all feel about public
displays of affection? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
That depends.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
It depends on where we at.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeahs, Like, you know, if we're going somewhere, if it's
the date night and we're somewhere intimate, fine, But I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Really like the hold hands.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
I don't like every now and then.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
So yeah, I don't know. I can have a little
small laps hands don't hold them.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yes, you know, so, I don't know. It just it depends.
It just depends. I don't really like public affections.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yes, I'm very affectionate in public.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Okay, so, but if so, I I like that, but
I've got to be like in a relationship or really
with this guy. So to meet all these guys and
all of a sudden like like they want to kiss
me on camera, like, it kind of freaks me out.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
See that's whack because, like you said, you're not in
a relationship, and these guys might be doing that just
because you are yourself.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Let me get a look. They could be cloud chasing.
You don't know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yes, so, but other ladies on the show, they was
cool with it. And so it's you'll see just all
over here being apprude and you'll see pimps up, hose down.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Okay, So what's.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Up with Mia Thornton. I heard you say that she's
she's dead to you? And it's two part questions. You
said she's dead to you, and they're hard when people
bring your children into the reality show.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, no, so the second part, Yes, it is disgusting
when you talk about children. They didn't sign up for this,
and children just off limits. That's like across the board.
Children are off limits. So if you want to come
for me, come for me, like you don't have to
bring my children into this, So that for me is
a point of no return. Like she and I used
(29:24):
to be friends off camera, but that's over. And I
feel like you do it when you're desperate. You do
stuff like that when you're.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Desperate, when you ain't got no storyline, when.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
You desperately want to think that this is going to
elevate you. And it didn't really work out that well
for her. I mean, I don't nobody's buying into that. Yeah,
and she's got enough to worry about. She got a husband,
she got a little boyfriend, she's she don't know the
paternity of her child.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
She I mean, don't go on.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So yeah, she's dead to me. Still, Yes, she'll be alive.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Damn if she apologize.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
So there was, So we're gonna let the show play out,
but there was. She was given ample opportunity to apologize,
but you know what she did. She doubled and tripled
down on it.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yikes, I can't do that. And nobody plays when it
comes to their kids, playing.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
About their kids nobody. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
So if you're thinking and you're gonna continue to do it,
that means you really feel that way about my kids.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
And that's a never.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, thank you. Well, don't thank you to the dead, No, she.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Won't to apologize to l Well, the Real Housewives of
potamic that's right, Potomac Sundays on Bravo. Of course, the
Reasonably Shady podcast on.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
The Black Veck I Heeart radio podcast that we're dropped
every Monday, and.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Of course the new show Love Hotel. We appreciate you
for joining us.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Thank you, Thank y'all for having me. I always love
you guys. Y'all are upmates, sing Yes, y'all love Jess.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We love Jess.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I know hello.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
She was on the show That Family.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
I Love and she just asked the question, you're sitting
there like.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You said nothing.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I love yeah, and I will say, I re really
appreciate being on Black Effects.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Thank you. We appreciate having.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yes, it's you know, we feel good about what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Absolutely, we appreciate what you.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
We feel a bit about what you're doing too.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yes, I mean it's coming.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
It's one of our biggest podcasts.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Oh really absolutely, okay, it's gonna be like five seasons.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
We thought you would fight, it's like three seasons.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Oh absolutely, thank god.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Not that you're making right.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's Brian at the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The
Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody is d J n V, jess Larius Chelamaine the God.
We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
In the building.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
That's right, we have j O Brian Welcome. How are
you feeling.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm feeling so good.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I was gonna name all the stuff that the Real
Housewives of Potomac. I was gonna say, shady podcast podcast,
Straight and Reasonably Shady podcast, Rob and you show love Hotel.
You're doing so much. I'm doing a lot, making a
lot of money out there.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yes, well, you know we got the dad for the
college tuition. Thank praise Sam, keep preaching, preacher. But Jesus, yes, yes, yes,
but yeah, I'm doing a lot, and I'm you know,
it's good. I'm at a place where I can say
no to things. I'm doing things that like make me happy.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
How was the Real Housewives franchise?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Because you see Housewives being fired, franchises being canceled, rebooted.
New York was canceled and rebooted. I think Dubai has
been canceled. Yes, and a lot of them is they're
saying it trash. So how is Potonmac. It's still being
able to survive for all of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's first, it's potomac.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yes, it's hard, Like the reality TV space is extremely difficult,
and it's it's difficult to like have some longevity. You
have to for Housewives, it's not hard. You guys have
to be friends. It's a show about friendship. So when
you are trying to be toxic, when you're trying to
say stuff to your castmates that's toxic and it's at
(01:36):
the point of no return, then there goes the show.
You can't come back from that. And no viewer wants
to sit in week after week and look at a
show that there's a bunch of women that hate each other.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It becomes unreal.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Hold on, that's the whole point of reality.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But I thought the conflict in the toxic was what God.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
But it's it's a fine line. It's like a dance
you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So it's wake toxicity, it's not hardcore toxicity. And then
you got to have be able to come back and laugh.
You got to be able to come back and make
fun of each other. And it's a girlfriend thing. You know,
you have some toxic girlfriends, right, but you know that
y'all can go out on Saturday and.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Have fun, but somebody's getting cussed out.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah, but it's okay because there's a love there and
you can still like rise above it. Yeah, and then
Sunday we can all talk about what happened, yes, and
that be it. Yeah, and then you know you have
it's a dynamic of like there's some girlfriends that are
just like the wild card, the drunk one, the one
that's always going to like be reserved. It's the dynamic
of the group. But it just can't get to a
(02:41):
toxic place otherwise you're yes, you're going to be cancered.
Has it ever been a part or a time where
you're like, I don't want to do this to be
able TV? Shit, more like Thursday, I'm about to throw
in a town, Jez.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
You're about to give me five?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yes, of course, I always say, because real TV is tough.
If there is a point in a season in which
you don't feel like you want to quit, then you're
not doing your job.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You have to get to that point.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And for instance, this season, I didn't feel it unto
the end, so and I was checking myself with it
because I was like, I've been kind of like feeling good.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I've been in a great place. I don't feel like
I want to quit.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And and then towards the end of season, I was like, yeah, there, gone, there,
go there, But you have to give it all. If
you don't, then you shouldn't be doing it. And is
that that's so that's recipe to a good season.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Get that feeling. Oh, I was like this, this season
is gonna be fire, and it is.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
To you're the villain a lot and a lot of
these like, well, go at people's personal lives. You'll go
at d you have a relationship, personal env you know.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So we're friends and V I'm just asking.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I'm just asking.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I wanted to show my wife and I'm like, that's
not that youselle.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I know.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I think that anything that is out there on social
media is fair. It's semi fair game. I'll never go
after anybody's mother or child, but yeah, if it's out there,
let's talk about it. And and that's like a good
girlfriend relationship any right, take the cameras away. If something's
going on with my girlfriend, were gonna talk about it.
I'm not gonna get together with her and act like
(04:21):
it ain't happening. No, let's talk, and it does. And
just because the cameras are there doesn't mean it's shady.
It's how you handle the answer that that you feel
like it is shady.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't think you a villain. I think I think
you throw reasonable shade. Yes, he's the podcast.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yes, you know, Rob is not with us this season,
and so the reasonable of the show has been like
you know, gone.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But I've had to.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Pick up that reasonable part A little bit about it
is that it's difficult part of my personality.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
The thing I like about you though, because it's hard
to build the name outside of the reality show. A
lot of people that becomes their whole identity that have
not been the case for you.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
No, because I leave it there so and that is
when we're filming. I leave it there when I come home.
I'm not trying to talk to my kids about it.
I'm not trying to think about it. It's I look
at it is, it's on camera stuff. I did it
on camera. Now that the cameras are gone, I'm done
with it. Now there's your your kids ever try to
talk to you about it. You got an older baby girl. Yeah,
(05:25):
that she questioned you about some things that she'll see
on there or does that ever happen? Well, they probably
won't mention it. And one of them is here today.
But they're shadier than me.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So if.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know, their mama is me, their father is who
he is, they are some shady kids. So if I
come home and tell them what's going on, they you know,
they get.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
A kick out of it.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, yeah, so they there are times when they're like, ma,
you can't say that, But then there are times where
they're like, good, I'm glad you checked her.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And how do you deal with the blogs right, because
they attack everything that you do? Yes, the way you
decorate your house, the way you dress good, She guccied out.
I don't see the problem like I.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
See her all the time talk about promote me.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
When people take thrives that you can talk about you
when you know it's bys right.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I find it funny because that means if you're talking
about the way that I dressed on my house whatever,
that means you have nothing else right and you're just
not now making up something.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
And yeah, y'all keep talking about me.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So it's like I don't even have to get out
of bed in the morning, like, because y'all are talking
about me, so I actually appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I like the haters.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, they're my friends.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You just did your your first twenty one Questions live
show in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yes, how do you know?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, what I know?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I know anything? Are there going to be other cities? Yes,
so I'm planning that right now. Thank you so much
for asking.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I just that was something that I did on my own.
So we've reasonably Shady has done live shows, yes, but
it's been me and Robin. So it was my first,
you know, Beyonce by herself. It was my first breakout
by myself. I was terrified and I did it and
I felt like I killed it, Like I felt like
I can do this. I felt comfortable, which was personally
(07:12):
I needed that. So yes, I'm now planning the whole tour.
So we're doing West Coast first and then we're gonna
come through Charlotte, do a little Houston, Dallas, and then
come back to New York Atlanta. Yes, so February. So
why were you nervous? What made you nervous?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Because I have a tendency to Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
To know me is to know that I'm very quiet
and to myself and I like to be home in
my my business.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
What yes, yes, so, And I have.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
A tendency to kind of say things that's really on
my mind and it could be a bit much. And
Robin always kind of like checks me in that and
she's just kind of like whoa, Like that was team
too much, like calm down. So I didn't have that person,
and just doing it by myself made me feel like
a I'm gonna mess up, and you know that's a
(08:11):
scary thing, like and if you don't have anybody like
to quote catch you.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
So I did it well, it went well.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I was happy, and now I vis because you're adding
cities and I think that's good.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So congratulations own.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
How did you feel to have the house to yourself?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Because you an empty enough?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yes, okay, so let's talk about it because you're not there.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm nowhere.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
You are nowhere near either of you, Okay, so let's
talk about it.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
At first, I was like super sad because I dropped
off three kids in three cities in seventy two hours.
So it was like a thing and minds you all
my kids go to HBCU shout.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Out to the HBCU going to Hampton Hampton. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Grace is going to fam fam the ones in the
ones that Spelman And she's at a doors at Yes,
she's a freshman. She just finished all of her this
is her first semester. She's rocking.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
What a three point nine four points? Don't get it twisted.
Don't get it twisted. That's next year's conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, I'm just I'm.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
So when I got home, I was super sad, like
I was just like, what am I going to do?
And then the next day I woke up and I
was like, I'm walking around the house naked.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
It's so freeing. I get up when I want to.
I don't have to go to the grocery store. I
don't have to feed anybody.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
This is like.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And all I can, all I have to do is
just think about me.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
And that's a great feeling to just think about yourself
after you've been thinking about and planning around somebody else's
life for a damn near twenty years.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Like it's a nice feeling.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Where you ever, I don't know how to say, have
you how did you feel about them?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Splitting up, like.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
To Hampton and Angel.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
So they both applied to both colleges and they both
got in to Hampton and Spellman. So I was thinking
they were just gonna make the decisions stay together. However,
Angels a better fit for Spellman. A door is a
better fit for Hampton.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
A door at.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Spelman would kill her because it's just not a good
fit for her. It's they're they're very quiet, they're very studious.
They party like once a week. You know, she need
a party like three times a week, so she need
to get it in.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
So I was concerned, but I knew that if they
were were going to split up, they would thrive, and
they are.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
They're thriving.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
How did that even feel having all three of your
kids go to college in h I got four daughters,
a whole ball of them go to college.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
But they have all three, Yeah, ended up going to college.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I didn't realize that.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
It was like, like I did a great job until
people started telling me, they're like, just so this is
a flex, Like you got all three of your girls
in college, a black college.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I'm super proud of them.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I you know, when you're in it, you don't realize
you're what you're doing. And when I was in it,
I didn't realize, like, yeah, I'm making my life all
about them. I'm making sure that they're doing all the
extracurricular stuff and that they're expanding their horizons.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So I felt like this is what I'm supposed to
be doing.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
But now that I see the result of it, I'm like, damn,
I did that thing, and I'm just proud of them
because they are. You know, you want your kids to
live their best life, but they really are, so it's
nice to see.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And you didn't try to influence all of them to
go to Hampden.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I didn't, did I M I mean I wanted listen.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Their dad went to more House, so he wanted one
on them as Spelman, I wanted one of them at Hampton,
and it worked out.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I was gonna ask, when you know co parenting, how
did y'all get to the place where y'all can co
parent that way? Because y'all went through a divorce and
I'm sure it wasn't a nice divorce.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, how did y'all get to.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
A point where y're Of course, of course, so when
y'all got to a place where it was where y'all
both could really co parent and take all the emotions
out of it. How did y'all get there?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
When did that have I'm gonna be honest, it was
it was a lot of me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
That was the problem.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
No, No, it was a lot of I decided when
they because they we got divorced. They were little, they
were like two and three, and I decided. I got
my attorney told me, you got a long road with
this guy. So if you don't like him, if you
think he's a fool, you got to put that in
the back burner because it's about your kids.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So I had to just let it go.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Did he throughout the course of their life pissed me
off every other day?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yes, But I had to let it go.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
And I didn't want them to feel like because we're
getting a divorce, they didn't didn't have a family unit.
So I would invite him to everything. We're going on vacation,
he can come, we're doing dinners, he can come. And
as long as he didn't, you know, clearly pissed me off,
then we can continue to do it. So yeah, I
mean it's tough, but you got to just put your
(13:10):
kids first.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
When you went on vacation or you invited him. Was
he able to bring his new girl or were you?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Now, I mean he could have, he just never did.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, and I in my vacations, I kept it about the.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Kids, okay, because I one was going to ask you
what would have happened to him? But never mind because
change it.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I mean we had we didn't stay in the same room,
so he might have had flown somebody out and I
never saw her. But he kept it respectable in front
of the kids, for sure, which I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I appreciate that. But no, it's not easy.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
And to Jamal's credit, because I had them the majority
of the time, he let me do my thing with
the girls. He wasn't like a helicopter parent and like
trying to question how I was parenting them. So that
was I appreciate that, let me do my thing. And
with you being an open nester, now yes, dating because
(14:05):
getting back to your naked knowledge, I'm sorry, I haven't
even heard the term open nest Jesus, what empty?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I like, open, open, open, open again.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So they facetimey all the time and they see I'm naked,
and they're like, please put some clothes on. So the
whole walking around naked is a thing. It's a good
thing because that like makes you feel sexy.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yes, so yes, the landscape has come more than once
a week and show.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Three times a week.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I don't stand in front the window empty, right, So
it's it's a good feeling.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
And yes, I have been dating.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Your question because I sing on the show you did
speed dating with Ash who was now divorced.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
But yes, how was there? Are you still seeing the
guy from the speed data?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah he's around, Yeah, there's several. You got a roster, Yes,
it's about that. It's because I have the time now.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yes, So if you had time for a roster, you'd
have a roster, that's right. Yeah, and if you weren't
in committed relationships people, which all of you are in.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yes, yes, okay, because I used to have a roster
girl up and down the streets, Chris, Chris, I just
settled down.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, No, I feel like it's my time.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I feel like I'm not going to settle into something
unless it's really, really really right.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, and I earned that.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, do you want to get married again?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So I have said for like the longest time, absolutely,
not like for what like what does that bring to me,
but I might.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I'm open.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
What changed your mind?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Mind? Your business?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm open because I do feel, like, you know, my
kids have never seen like a straight up family unit,
and they don't really understand the concept of what that means.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So if I'm able to give.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
That to them, and if the guy is I'm asane,
then I will.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And is that how? And there will be major prenups
trusts all that handled.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I was just gonna ask you about how you're moving
forward with, Like how do you date now? Because your
last marriage infidelity.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Played a big part in it.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So how are you with trusting who you're even dating
even if it's not exclusive?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Like are you scared?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Like, no, not scared at all. I mean, I think
all of us have trust issues just by nature, we
black people, Like who are we trusting? But at some
point in time you gotta let go. And I I'm
okay with that. I'm okay with being with a man
and I can finally just like let it go. Yeah,
(17:07):
And I'm not the girl to like, I don't know
about you, Jess, but I don't like look through people's
phones and I'm not I'm not like trying to find
I'm not trying to be FBI, I'm not trying to
find out what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I actually just don't care.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
So if you're out here doing something, I'm the easiest
girl to cheat on, because like I just I won't.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I won't.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I'll be the last to though. Yeah, So once you
break the trust, it's a problem.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Kids with your dating with. So they hate everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I'm sure do they nobody good enough for moms.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
But they feel like I just run through them. I mean,
not like that was terrible to let me clean that up, Okay,
do I run through Okay? So they just feel like
I don't take anybody seriously and I don't allow men
(18:03):
to make.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Mistakes that I'm just like onto the next.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
So they don't really even get invested unless they really
see I'm invested.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, how they've been doing the show without Robin.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It was tough. It was tough, you know, Robin. Y'all
know she's notoriously late.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I was always thinking she was going to come into
the scene just late per usual. She was always kind
of like the voice of reason where people are going
left and screaming at each other. She was always looking
at like the bigger picture and we didn't have that.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So, yeah, I missed. I missed, definitely miss her.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Yeah, but she's just opened up a medspa in Colombia.
You know, the target in Columbia. Yeah, in that strip mall.
I hate that, I said the target and Columbia you
knew exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, many targets in Colombia.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, okay, so it's in that in that mall.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Congratulations, Yeah, definitely. It's called Glow thirty.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah. The next time you're in town and it's like
a subscription type of medspot.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
She's she's doing great.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Did you ever think about walking because she said she
got fired? Did you ever think about walking when she
got fight?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I was supposed to quit my job because you got fired.
That's right, I know, that's right. I was supposed to
fumble my bag.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Doubt.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Did y'all have a combo about it?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I'm sure, of course.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Like after she got the call, she immediately called me,
but she kind of felt it coming, you know. Unfortunately,
she's in a situation in which she's with her her
guy Wan, but for whatever reason, people don't like that relationship,
and so year after year she would have to defend it,
and it was kind of like everybody was tired of this,
(19:38):
but you know you shouldn't. You shouldn't have to defend
the person that you have been married to, that you
love constantly, like let it be.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So she's she's not.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
She's stressed free. Right now, I'm the one stressed out
because I'm still on the show. But she's like stress
free and living her best life?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Are you bringing those the people that you're dating on
the show?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
And no, what what are you talkingous? Now?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Don't make the whole faith.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I mean, he's gotta be. So I did the speed dating,
so let me talk about the speed data.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
So he we were.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Going out a couple of times, but then you know,
he really liked me, just like a little too much.
You know, he was like telling me all the time,
and that's kind of like the kiss of death.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You don't like affection.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I don't like infection affection affection. We don't affection. Of course,
you don't like infections affection.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I do, But it's it's a way that he did
too much, too quick, And it's like you just tell
me I'm great once.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Not like all day every day and keep praising yes,
yes that.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Is so.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
What if I really feel that way.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
What if I'm looking at you and I'm like, damn
your god, bless me, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I mean, because then it's the challenge is over for me.
Then you know I got him.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, I to look forward to. Now what else?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, so or tell me in other ways, make it
be a gift, make it you know, don't tell me
what your words tell me with action.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Right, So I did something else in my life I did.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
I can't say I did do a dating show, right,
So I told him about the show before I left,
and that kind of like threw him off and he
couldn't understand it, so he wouldn't thought.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
He was the one and you went, you go ahead
and go on to dating.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah, but I said, I I already got this bag
before I met you, so.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You should have understood.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And he did.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
But he went away for like three months and then
when all of a sudden, he just like reappeared.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
He went away for three months jail or no, went away.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Like out of my line talking. Yeah, way, I don't
mess with those guys anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's in my past.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
So now he's back full throttle. He you know, he
wants to do trips and he wants to do all
the things because now he's putting his his full energy
and attention in it the way that I want to
receive it. That motivated him, That motivated him, So every
now and again, you just got to like let him.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
So when you tell him that, when you say, look, man,
you don't got to tell me I'm great all the time,
how does he react to that?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Just so, I mean, it's just I just want to
express myself. I just want to let you know. And
I mean I haven't, like you know, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I don't really meet women like you all the time.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And it's just yeah, I know player, Like it's just like, wow,
you understand.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Now you're dating somebody. You want to tell us she beautiful,
but you can only tell her once a year.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
You know, people always I heard what she said. You said,
he should also show you. You got to tell me,
show me what your actions. Yes, I can understand that.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yes. And my kids mad him and they was throwing
shade at him.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
So it's just like, yeah, like I said, I need
three months.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So you can't do anybody that's quote unquote average or
broke you because you're talking trips. You took on buy
me expensive gifts.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Daughter is like, nope, okay, thank you putting words in
my mouth.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
All right, you don't have to.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I'm not the Gucci Louis product girl, Like, you don't
have to. Yes on right now, how I bought this
for myself?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Okay, right, I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I don't need that, but you can show me little flowers.
It doesn't have to be it's okay. So to answer
your question, my daddy a man that's broke, Now, that's
that's like, why would I do that?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That was because you're trying to get a politically correct Anthony're.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Like, look, I'm not, and Jess, you can appreciate this.
You've worked hard for where you are stability.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And financialist, right as have I. Why you don't need
to take care of a man?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
No, so it's no. And I don't know who you're with. Yeah,
it's I'm not with somebody I got to take care
thank you. Now. I was in a relationship like that,
a couple of relationships like that, so I definitely know
what you mean. No, I don't want to date nobody broke,
but and I know that because I've dated broke people.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
So that's why I know that she probably never did.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
I've dated broke men and been up you know what
I mean, and try to help and not no.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
No, if he's a great man, everything, you just don't
have the finance.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
So so that can only go so far, and I'm
fine with that, but it can only go like in
the bedroom, and then like where are we going to dinner? No,
you can't pay. Are we going on the trip? No,
I can't afford my tickets, you can't afford yours.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And of course they love you.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, so it's like, where what are we doing here? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I got the show with love Hotel right, hotel?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yes. Now I wanted to ask about the I know
you're still in a lawsuit with Eminem? Did that ever
finish that? Whatever happened with that? Is it over yet?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Y'all could probably appreciate this, y'all probably no more than me. Okay,
So y'all know a guy named Paul Rosenberg managing we
deposed him, and from that, okay, I can't say much.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
From that, I think it's almost over. It's almost over.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
So the our position was Eminem deposed. Eminem's team had
me and Robin deposed, So all is fair in love
and war. We're going to depose eminem. So when our
side said, okay, we need to post him, all hell
broke loose, it was like, oh, no, no, never, he
doesn't even know anything about Well if he doesn't know
anything about this, why are we here?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Because his name is all in the headline.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Right, But that's a lot. I mean you had to
have told him something.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
So because of that, I think that there have decided, Okay,
these girls aren't going away, and like we got to
settle well, Patent and Trade is going to settle it
or figure it out because we're at the end of
the road. All depositions have been done, all disclosures, all all,
and yes, we've spent a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Last how much do you pay your lawyer fees?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
It's still ongoing, but a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
He didn't He don't own the word shady.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
You don't own the word shady. And what they don't
and what we know is there have been other companies,
small companies, insignific not insignatany but small like upstarts, that
have had shady in their name, and they paid them all,
they paid them all to go away, just to make
it go away. We weren't going to do that or
unless y'all didn't offer something that could make us go away.
(25:55):
But no, we're too far in now, and no, it's no,
And I don't even get it, Like, why would you
be doing this to us because we, thank god we
had the money, but let's just say we didn't and
we're just two black women out here just trying to
make a dial out of fifteen cents.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, make sure you subscribe to the Reasonably Shady podcast
on the blacka Ieheart Radio podcast network, available everywhere you
listening to the podcasts.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
There you go and we drop all my dates.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah, world, quick, what is the real beef with Karen
and who you kring to me?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Because you know what one one minute, y'all throwing shade
and y'all supporting each other.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Is there a real beef?
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Is what I should have said, beef any underlying issues.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
To truth be told? I think Karen I obviously we
started to show together. Yeah, let's pray for Karen because
she's going to court next week. I think that in
Karen's mind, she wanted to be whatever she wanted to
be as far as the show was concerned, and she
had a lot of people in her ear and so
(26:55):
I think that that caused her to like come for
me and come for me. Yeah. But I've known Karen
since before the show started, like we were friends, so
I knew what she was doing sometimes on camera was
just some nonsense.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
And I was gonna ride with you with this nonsense.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
But I mean, we've been doing this for so long now,
Like at its core, we love each other. At its core,
we root for each other. But she just comes from
me because.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
She gets bored, got it.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, And I'm okay with that. I'll play, I'll play.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
With you you.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Okay, I just had to except for myself. I watched
the Yes, myself and Ashley is on the show. Yeah,
I've been doing a lot of business together. Yes, yes,
and and actually it's wild.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yes, I don't like. How do y'all feel about public
displays of affection? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
That depends.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
It depends on where we at.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeahs, Like, you know, if we're going somewhere, if it's
the date night and we're somewhere intimate, fine, But I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Really like the hold hands.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
I don't like every now and then.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
So yeah, I don't know. I can have a little
small laps hands don't hold them.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yes, you know, so, I don't know. It just it depends.
It just depends. I don't really like public affections.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yes, I'm very affectionate in public.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Okay, so, but if so, I I like that, but
I've got to be like in a relationship or really
with this guy. So to meet all these guys and
all of a sudden like like they want to kiss
me on camera, like, it kind of freaks me out.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
See that's whack because, like you said, you're not in
a relationship, and these guys might be doing that just
because you are yourself.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Let me get a look. They could be cloud chasing.
You don't know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yes, so, but other ladies on the show, they was
cool with it. And so it's you'll see just all
over here being apprude and you'll see pimps up, hose down.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Okay, So what's.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Up with Mia Thornton. I heard you say that she's
she's dead to you? And it's two part questions. You
said she's dead to you, and they're hard when people
bring your children into the reality show.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, no, so the second part, Yes, it is disgusting
when you talk about children. They didn't sign up for this,
and children just off limits. That's like across the board.
Children are off limits. So if you want to come
for me, come for me, like you don't have to
bring my children into this, So that for me is
a point of no return. Like she and I used
(29:24):
to be friends off camera, but that's over. And I
feel like you do it when you're desperate. You do
stuff like that when you're.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Desperate, when you ain't got no storyline, when.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
You desperately want to think that this is going to
elevate you. And it didn't really work out that well
for her. I mean, I don't nobody's buying into that. Yeah,
and she's got enough to worry about. She got a husband,
she got a little boyfriend, she's she don't know the
paternity of her child.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
She I mean, don't go on.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So yeah, she's dead to me. Still, Yes, she'll be alive.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Damn if she apologize.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
So there was, So we're gonna let the show play out,
but there was. She was given ample opportunity to apologize,
but you know what she did. She doubled and tripled
down on it.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yikes, I can't do that. And nobody plays when it
comes to their kids, playing.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
About their kids nobody. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
So if you're thinking and you're gonna continue to do it,
that means you really feel that way about my kids.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
And that's a never.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, thank you. Well, don't thank you to the dead, No, she.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Won't to apologize to l Well, the Real Housewives of
potamic that's right, Potomac Sundays on Bravo. Of course, the
Reasonably Shady podcast on.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
The Black Veck I Heeart radio podcast that we're dropped
every Monday, and.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Of course the new show Love Hotel. We appreciate you
for joining us.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Thank you, Thank y'all for having me. I always love
you guys. Y'all are upmates, sing Yes, y'all love Jess.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We love Jess.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I know hello.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
She was on the show That Family.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
I Love and she just asked the question, you're sitting
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