November 15, 2024 • 40 mins
The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Rotimi To Discuss Fatherhood, Bringing Afrobeats To America, 50 Cent's Marketing Genius, And New Album. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
Morning everybody, it's the j Envy Justseilarie Charlamagne the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
in the building today. We got Roll Timmy. Yes, sir,
I'm good, bro. How you doing. How you doing, family,
I'm good. Good to see you, Good to see you.
It's been a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, I know you were working.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm doing what i can to my family because last
time we see him, he wasn't married. He about the
music park. I'm talking about both. I'm talking about like this.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm he has the husband and dad glow. You know
that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Thank you, thank you. Yea being and being and being
a father man. And it's changed my life man, because
having a three year old boy and a two year
old girl, like, I'm just learning so much about myself
as a man, and it just does it. So anybody
father's man, like, please spend time with your children because
at this age I'm seeing how much it is that
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affects them. But I'm not there, you know, So it's
it's it's a beautiful thing just to see him grow
and them both grow.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, is it a difference, Like, I know you had
your son first, was it that anything changed when you
had your girl?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So yeah, so being a Nigerian mine now of paranting that,
you know, but my son, Like, so I'm blessed because
my son is actually a genius. So like and everybody
say that about you know that. We really can't put
him in school because his brain, the way he takes
information is at an eight year old level. Damn, So
(01:30):
we had to take So he's doing preschool just to
be around other kids for socialia, but in terms of
we have to get a tutor because it's too advanced.
So he's doing his alphabets backwards. He's speaking Spanish learning
Sea at three, so like, and so I tell him
things and he gets it once, So I'm blessed. But
then the funny thing is my daughter is actually faster
(01:51):
because she's watching her brother right, so now they're both
going through the same thing. So it's a blessing because
it's like the house teaching, y'all ship yes, yes, that
x y z z gg and that's not I know
my CBA. I'm like what you know what I'm saying.
So it's been beautiful, man, But I'm done. With too, though, Yeah,
(02:14):
I'm finishing. She you just have. He just told me
so much love, you know what an experience. But I'm done.
I'm done because this generation, dude's too many. You need
you need to focus on what you can. I'm already gone,
so I'm already at a disadvantage. So like just making
sure two is good at this in this time, then
I think that's enough for me personally. That's what I
said at first, too, and then you five six to it.
(02:37):
First I got a twenty three. She just turned twenty
three yesterday, twenty three, twenty one, and then we waited
like ten years, and now I got eleven or ten eight?
Wow in a two year old. Wow. I love being
a father. Like being a father is, it keeps you young,
it keeps you on your toes. It just it keeps
you hungry as well. Absolutely, and I enjoy it. Now.
(02:58):
Your wife said that after two days of meeting you,
she knew you were the one. Yeah, did you know
she was the one? After two days? Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Boy, don't get him in trouble.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Not because of her, but because I wasn't ready for
what she already was ready for. And usually women are
smarter than us you get what I'm saying. So like
she saw it, I knew it. I fought it, you
know what I mean. I knew that I never experienced
something like that. I knew that I met someone that
was already challenging me as a person in spiritually. She's
a prayer warriors, so like her whole thing was we
(03:34):
speaking in tongues for an hour and a half, were going,
were reading the Bible together, like, so she approached me
on a way that like it made me say, damn, bro,
you really aren't who you think you are as a person.
You're still a boy, you know. And so she made
me mentally level up. So I still was like, nah,
she's lit. But everybody then I'm like, oh my god,
I can't stop thinking, I can't stop vibing. I can't
(03:55):
stop I don't want nothing else. It was a gradual
how did you meet? We the Essence Fest, so so Visa.
She's she's an artist, but she retired, but she's an artist,
and she was headlining as well on the main stage
of Essence. It's a funny quick story that I was
there for Power, but I was also performing. So I
went to a private party. Okay, I'll stop. The time
(04:17):
I went from a private party and I actually had
a girl there with me. Oh there, yeah, like a fly,
like a nice little weekend vibe. And I'm still in
the whole Timmy Days. You know what I'm saying. I
was doing Timmy Days. So now I'm still violent, you know.
But it was Shorty was like, Yo, I don't feel
too well. I'm going to stay in and I was like, well,
(04:37):
I gotta go to this Spotify party really quickly. I'll
be there ten minutes. I meet you in a book.
She's like, I don't feel like going. But she was
with me the entire day. I go to the party
and all my power crew was this way, and I
was like, man, I just seen all these niggaves, I've
seen him. I'm good. Let me just do my own thing.
And there she is, like literally sitting on the pool table,
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and it was just like like, oh wow, who is this?
And then we spoke for three four hours. So the
illest thing that I did that I feel like change
the trajectory of our relationship was the fact that she
was like, look, I really want to get to know you.
I think you're super lit. Let's see each other tomorrow.
And I said, honestly, like I have somebody here, I
don't want to cross ties. I don't want to play
you like that. I didn't want to. I don't want
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to put you in a situation where you view me
as this guy. So let me handle this first and
then we can link, you know, whenever, when there's no distraction.
So she remembered that because I know if she would
have met me doing this, she would have been thinking
forever that, like anybody's like that, you know. So that's
how we met, and you know, we've been together ever since.
And she she wasn't living in the States at the time.
(05:41):
She was in Tanzania, so she flew out. And yeah,
so the young lady that you left in the hotel,
I was sick. She must feel sick. Why I gotta
be sick? Why you got to go out and leave me?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It could have been a headache from our drink. Too
much left to sit girl in want to go back somebody.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I don't know what I'm saying. It was crazy. So
how was that conversation with her? Because now it's like,
you know, yeah, if you wasn't sick, you could have
been the one. Yeah, I don't even know she could
have been the one. Okay, yeah, but she was dope.
But again, I wasn't in that mindset of anything. I
just met someone that made me say, oh, gotcha, this
is different, bro, don't lose this.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
But I do respect how you told the like, I'm
here with somebody and I don't even you know, I
don't want you to cross.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I love that, And I feel like again, like you know,
the way you meet people, sometimes people never forget because
then it starts being like, okay, well you did this
to me. Yeah, so then everything is always been integrity,
yeah you know, And so I wanted to start it
off that way. And then I had the conversation short
you like, look like you know this is this is
a vibe. We cool. I had a good time, you know,
I think we're just gonna and she was like, yeah,
(06:48):
come the problem It was nothing. It wasn't deep. So
how long were you together with your wife before you
actually asked the question? Oh, a year and a half.
And how did you know? Because nowadays I feel like
people wait a lot longer because they want to make
sure with you know, so many people talking about toxic relationships,
so many people getting divorced. What say this is the
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one that I want to do it now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You just said he was speaking tongues for four hours.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Lord. Yeah. Nah. You know. The onliest thing that I've
always done in my career personally is I've always trusted
my instincts and I've always trusted my intuition. So I
never second guess anything, you know, And that's because I
never took an acting class, I never took music lessons.
It was always whatever. So this is no different that
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I knew that it was Okay, this is the time, Oh,
this is gonna be it, this how it goes. And
I'm very in tune with God, so everything was just like, Okay,
this is who it needs to be and this is
who it is. So it was it was ordained, Bro.
I can't really tell you, like, yeah, it was just
like this woman doesn't deserve to wait, you know what
I'm saying, Like, what am I doing? I already know?
(07:56):
So why I waste time?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So what is the rotiney prayer and the prayers for.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
This man?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
The way you speak about v his wife, they're gonna
be asking for that prayer. I want to know how
has been a husband and a dad affected your music?
Like did it change make you want to sing different
about different things?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Or he keeps saying you got like nineteen songs.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But how does this impact your music now the family life?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Oh well, I'm able to make records that So for example,
I have a song called Blessed Right and it just
basically says on the album, basically says I have everything
I need and it's a mixture of afrobeat with gospel.
You know, that's a one version. Then I have a
version of you know when I met her in essence
(08:44):
and I wrote from the perspective of I don't need
nobody else, it's you, and put it on some cool drums.
So that love has been easy to transp because it's
transcribed because it's just naturally what's going on. And me
and Punch we did this whole project together. So my
stories are easy to convey to my brother, you know,
and so we're able just to get these going. But
(09:05):
as a father, you know, like you said earlier, like
before we even started, just being able to look in
my kids eyes and say yo, like I have no
choice but to win, yo, Like I have to do this.
I don't have a regular nine to five where I
can clock in, do what I need to do and
go home. I have to earn everything creatively and think ahead.
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So when I look at him and he's happy and
he's doing his alphabets backwards, I'm like, I gotta fund this,
you know what I mean. And so that mindset has
made me even bigger hustler when it comes down to it.
And you know, I was going through a lot of
mental issues, not issues, but mental moments where it was
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like COVID at the time, and then dealing with a
woman who I genuinely love for sure, but postpartum is
a monster that men don't really talk about that we
got to deal with as well, and being giving and
giving and giving. So I was going through so much
at the time that music was my therapy. So that's
why it took so long to make this next, this
(10:07):
project now, because one I had to get myself right
mentally and then make sure my family was good and
then kill a lot of my bad habits of who
I was before I go to the next stage. Now,
did you have to go to Derby? Yeah? I did,
I did. I tried it. I tried it. What made
you try it to? Because I'm usually the guy that
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everyone goes to for answers. I'm using the guy that
everyone goes to for prayer. I'm using a guy that
everyone goes to, like, Yo, can you help me through this?
And when you're like a leader, or who do you
go to? You know? And my wife definitely is there.
But there's certain things men go through that no one
else can really and a lot of people don't go
(10:48):
through the same things I deal with on a daily
of fame and pressure and anxiety and you know, being
around people that just cloud chasing. It's a toxic industry.
So when you go through so much of that, no
one really is there to talk to. So then I
was like, God, help me. I did that. At the time,
(11:10):
I wasn't ready for that true conversation. Then I went
and said, let me just talk to somebody, and it
was great. But I think it's really important to have
the right therapist too, absolutely, you know. So it didn't
really match. And then that didn't work, but I could
see how it does work. Then it was like, no,
let me just let me just go to the Bible. Man,
(11:33):
let me just go to the Bible. And then I
just opened up Peter, and Peter became my therapist. You
know what I'm saying. So I just kept reading the Bible,
I read James and like, those two books changed my
mindset and just gave me like the guideline of how
to be a good man and a cerebral man. And
so that changed my life. Man, I genuinely changed my life.
So therapy helped open the door. But then I just
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used God and disciples as my therapist. But you're going
through depression. Is that why you said I have to
see therapy. Was it something that you was like, I
need some help? Like what got you to the point
where was like I need this help? Was it anxiety?
Was it? Yeah? It was it was anxiety. It was
anxiety that I never felt before. It was feeling like
at the time I really couldn't speak to anybody, that
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the world is shut down. And then also I had
a hit record, like so in my bed was going
ridiculous at that time, but I couldn't travel, you know,
so I couldn't promote it the way it needed to promote.
So you're seeing it go viral, but you're like, damn,
I can't even really do anything, you know, And so
that also played into it. But then it was also
just like you're not able to move, so you're starting
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to see the bank account go a little, you know,
and so you're just like, hey, I never felt this.
I've always been good, and so being able to start
viewing self awareness like Okay, why do I feel this way?
What are my triggers? What do I go through that
makes me say? Okay? Let me use this as an outlet.
Who am I like? And I didn't have those answers
(12:59):
at the time, and I was praying, but I wasn't
as close to God as I am now, and it
was just like, man, I just need to talk to
another person, you know, with an unbiased and just give
me some advice. And I did it, and it was beautiful.
It was just that I wish that well, everything happens
for the reason, but I could see how it works
for people, and I just said, okay, you know, no more,
no more trying to tough it out. Why Why am
(13:19):
I toughing it out when I'm hurting myself? You know?
And I think as black men, we need and people
in general, as black men, we need to be okay
with being vulnerable. We need to be okay with dealing
with insecurities. We need to because it makes you strong
when you attack them, you know, and and starve the
things that you think are vices, you know. And so
I did that. I stopped drinking, stop smoking, stop doing
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everything I was doing, and really just said, you know
this two years is going to be about me before
I even write a record. And that's when when I
got right. It was when everything just started falling in
my together. You know, are you drinking too much, were
you're smoking too much? Or where is it controlling your
life to the point where you it's like I have
to stop. It wasn't like an addiction, right, but it
(14:03):
was more of like for ten years of my life
through a whole power run, through music, through having platinum records.
You're in the club and doing this three four days
a week, so liquld becomes a vice. Liquld becomes and
then you're having some time you didn't even realize social
anxieties or things. So you're like, damn, I don't want
to really talk to these people, but this is soothing me,
(14:24):
so let me drink this to get through the moment,
you know. So you don't realize and then you're like, damn,
I gotta show I'm on tour and the like, why
do I feel like I need to drink a little
bit before I hit the stage? Man? Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. You know, as a community, you know
you're on stage.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You've had the same thing. Yep, And now I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, when I was pregnant, of course I couldn't drink,
but before that I did stop, like, yo, why do
I need a going It's just like that nervousness and
anxiety and you didn't even know it's that until you
go through something and you're like, damn, I don't need
that exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And so for me it was like not again, it
was it was a it was a crutch, not rather,
not a dittion. I didn't need it, but it was like, oh,
this is good for what I need right now, you know,
and smoking and things like that, and it was just
like escape, you know. And so when I realized, damn,
I'm using this as an escape rather than just for
joy or pleasure of whatever. I don't I don't want that,
(15:20):
it's how do you deal with it now? Because your
life still wraps around clubs in the industry, I'm sure
you still have those anxieties of going to a club
and not want to talk to people or performing on stage.
How do you deal with that? Now? I think I
realized that that vices and liquor and things are are
the isn't the problem? I realized that there was. That's
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just the solution. It's not the problem. It's a deeper
thing that it's it's me. So once I started getting
knee whole, Once I started realizing, yo, you are enough, bro.
Once I started realizing there's a relationship with God that
needs to be top tapped, and more, once I started
realizing that the devil is a liar, you know, Once
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I started realizing self awareness is going to change this.
Once I got me right, I didn't need those things.
I liked how I felt better without them, actually, you
know what I mean. So it's like it wasn't a solution.
It was it was a solution to a problem that
I had to work in within myself, you know. And
so once I realized that it took the power away
from anything, you know, I didn't need validation even and
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in this industry you get so used to getting validated
and you're lit. It becomes oh, this is how I
need to feel. It's a normal thing. So when you're
not getting that at times, it's like, what's wrong with me?
What changed? What happened? You know? And so even going
through that, so just I tell my boys and tell
people like, listen, man, it's okay to use these things
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as testimony because more people are going through these things
than not, you know. And so when you can see
somebody who's just happens to be in a public space,
I'm no different from you.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I just worked on myself, you know, I did the
little things. And again it is not a saying an addiction.
It's just I know that when there was an issue,
i'd run to something or you know, and so I
just would make it where I didn't run to anything.
I just ran to God and I ran to myself
and my family, you know. And so that was what
it was.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I love hearing that you got the song Bestie, Yes
you sampled from the Lauren Hills killing Me Softly? Did
she need to hear that before you?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yes she did.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
How was it working with her even even just let
her hear that?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So Bessie is one of my favorite records on the album,
and it's one of those songs that is divine man.
So Lauren Hill went to my high school. So we
all went to me, Sizza, Lauryn Hill, a lot of
other people, you know what I mean, and so yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
so yeah. So we all from that, from that cloth,
(17:50):
and it was amazing because full circle really quickly. I
was a freshman when she came and did her Hall
of Fame speech. So I was third roll sitting watching
her get her speech, and I'm like, man, I'm telling
my boy, I'm like, yo, bro, Like I'm gonna do that, bro.
And they don't really give They give it like maybe
every ten years to somebody, you know. And I was like,
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I'm just gonna be me, bro, And it's like, there's
like four thousand people that go to our school, so
the odds of it being you is not really likely.
So and I just worked, worked, work, and I did
the little things, man. And in twenty eighteen, I was
inducted to my high school Hall offesto, you know what
I mean. And I brought my boy, who I told
I'm gonna don't you know. And then but also that
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same year, Sissa was invited as well to the Hall
of Fame. So she and and a lot of people
don't understand that when we grew up, like I was
a ballplayer, singing girls, that popular kid, and she was
like kind of like an outcast, you know what I
mean to herself. Really didn't and she'll talk about it.
But I was always been like, yo, come hang out
with us, come kick it with us, when everybody was
(18:53):
like pushing away, pushing away because we didn't understand the
swag then like she was swaggy like this this then
you know, so it's different, you know, and it was
like whatever, So so it was dope to hear, you know,
acknowledge that in her speech to that, you know, like
Rod took care of me when I was in school.
But do you call it now? But like your remember
when the whole school was against you, charged about it
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right now, But remember it's so dope because during the
time that love rhythm was going crazy and my bed
was going crazy, and then she called me and was like, yo,
I love what you're doing. Let's get it. It's going
And then literally when like two weeks later, her stuff
started going bsurd and it was like okay, Uhlana, you
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remember that song that you said it goes in this
and me td you know, one, you know, So it
was it was cool, but you have to respect it.
But sorry, So Lauren Hill she heard the record, thank
god for Empire to clear it, but she had to
clear it first. But I wasn't there when she heard
it though. But but yeah, from what I heard, it
was love. And you know, again like having a legend.
(20:05):
You know, I've used her sample twice actually, you know,
from in my bed. Oh yeah, you know. And so
it's always paying homage, you know. And so that record
doing well was really cool. But yeah, it's been it's
been a it's been a it's been a beautiful journey,
beautiful journey.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Speaking bed. Do you ever feel pressure to match the
success of Lover for them or in my bed?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Uh? As a competitor, yes, you know what I mean.
As a dog, yes, but you know it's it's it's
this moment you know there. Oh yeah, and that's but
the thing is too, I was making those type of
records right while I was feeling power, right, so the
label will be like, yo, dog, you got two days
to make a hit, Go to la do what you
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need to do. I was never able to comfortably make
music like these other artists are able to do so
I was thank God for the talent. I was able
to go make a record, go back to set. While
I'm making a record, studying my lines in the booth,
there's a meeting. All right, so's supposed to okay? Cool?
Got it? Like I'm getting that, and thank god it
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was able to go platinum. But at the same time,
I never had the opportunity that other artists had. So
now I was like, ro let me get yourself right,
take care of your family. This is a season that
you're supposed to grow home because when it goes crazy again,
the foundation got to be solid. That's why you're sitting down,
you know. So then it was like, okay, but in
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the meantime, let's make the best music possible. So that's
why this project took two years, because I wanted to
make eighteen in my bed moments, you know what I
mean with this double album, and so I feel comfortable.
I was able to take my time, visualize it. And
the cool thing about it is that I was doing
in my bed and servicing my afrobeat fans instead of
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the R and B side would be like, yo, where's
our record? You know, And so now we were like,
let's literally make a double album nine records, Afrobeat, nine records,
R and b's called in My Heart for the R
and B side, in My Veins for the Nigerian Blood.
So you get in two versions of row timmy full
album and these are my life stories, you know. But
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then it was like yo, some people just like the
acting side, So like, let's figure this out. Let's fund
and pay for every music video to be shot. So
we put, we put money down, we put I put
about a quarter million and make every video. And then
then the labels like, yo, we got ten songs for you, bro,
we can only do ten. I was like, now I
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don't want to do ten, I want to do eighteen.
Well okay, well you gotta pay for it. Pay for
the other eight paid. The producer paid everything. So it
was like again I tell artists or people man like,
you have to invest in yourself. You gotta believe in
yourself because I know what this is gonna do and
you may not see it right now, but I know
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what this is gonna do, so let me take this
upon myself to make it happen with no question. So
they were like, we could do two record, two videos.
It was like all right, cool that standard. This is
great stuff, thank you, you know what I mean. But
now we're doing eighteen. You know, we're gonna service it
out for everybody to be able to have a moment
with this song because it's real to me acting as well.
So you get in the R and B side, you're
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getting the afro B side, and you're getting the actor,
you know, and I directed everything, you know what I mean,
And so shout out to Beyonce because I know Beyonce
has done something whereas the double album and you know,
but what we're doing differently is we're treating every song
like a single. So the album drops, every song is out,
but every three weeks you're gonna get a new video.
(23:39):
So you're gonna be getting new content from the same
project for about seven eight months.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
This is the real definition of a body of work,
a body of work.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I was like, yo, Like, if I'm gonna I'm not
gonna come out and do everything that a regular artists go.
Two weeks, they do promo and then you don't hear
nothing else that's done. Nah, I work too hard for this, yo.
I put my life on this. I put a half
a million into this thing on my own it has
to work. So we're gonna melt this, make it go,
make the music undeniable. You're not a messy artist. You're
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not talking to somebody that's gonna talk about somebody like I know, bro,
Like I know I can get up here and have
three strippers and put a thousand dollars on each of
the ass and be like, it's up, what's up. Yeah,
I'm single and it's gonna go viral, and then listen
to the breakup song about my woman. Then everybody listening
to I know, take that clip and say that you
(24:28):
wanted to be We're gonna cut that up, so go ahead,
go yeah, well you know what I mean. I know
I can do that. I know I can manipulate the
system because it's what it is. People like that type
of you.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Have done that before, because I was looking at an
interview where you said it was Fitty's idea to say
that you owe him money to keep the momentimum.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Going yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. So Love with Them Loved
Them was number one at the time, and he was like, yo, bro,
honestly I got this idea, man, Like, Okay, I I left,
I got out. My deal with fifty was a deal
or it was a two album deal, but I had
one more and I said, bro, I want to do
this on my own. You know, I believe in this,
(25:10):
And why did you want to get out? Did you
feel like no? I think I think at the time
there was a lot he had just fired everybody, you know,
and so like there was a lot going on at
the time, and the show was so on fire that
it was like, there's no way that there could be
focused on what this is at this particular time, especially
because my character's going O d Lin crazy. Yeah what
(25:30):
I'm saying. So I'm like, let me just take myself
out of this because at the timing wasn't right to
be a focus. So I was like, let me just
bet on myself, you know what I mean. And thank
God for his his his his love for me and
his wisdom. He was like, look, I'll let you out,
but you know, mechanically, you owe me three hundred thousand
(25:51):
for the investment that I've put in there. So I
had to pay him back mechanically. So from the sales
of my project product is how he'll get paid back,
which is standard, you know what I mean. So like
I didn't have to give him three hundred thousand like this.
But over time, whatever records I do work with with
whoever I work with, next they get he gets that money.
So the record we put the song out, Love Rhythm
(26:12):
is number one R and B album, Going Crazy, and
he calls me. He's like, look, bro, I got this idea.
I'm gonna say I don't like you. I'm gonna say
I want to punch you in your nose. I'm gonna
tell you I don't I'm gonna rock with you what's
in there. But the thing I'm gonna do is I'm
gonna mention twenty five times that how can this nigga
not pay me when his album is number one? So
(26:33):
when he did that, the psychological psychology of people is like,
what am I missing? Wait? Rog got a number one album?
Where what's going on? And that's that's how it blew,
you know what I'm saying. So that's Genie's marketing, definitely
thousand and his marketing, you know what I mean. So
it worked because he got his money back in like
four months, you know what I mean. So it works.
(26:53):
But at the same time, yes, I know I can
do those things, you know, And for me, I was
like though only way I can combat gimmicks and being
messy and things that just make undeniable product that lives forever.
You know. That's why in my heart, in my veins
feels like that man. And that's how I grew up.
Like being from Jersey, there was no cutting corners, there
(27:15):
was no you have to work for what you got,
you know. Being Nigerian either as well, I didn't cut corners,
you know. I did the little things, you know what
I mean. So that's what it was for me. I understand,
I understood very early, like the little things is will
keep you around the longevity. Where when was the last
time you go to your job and you shake everybody's hand,
(27:35):
you know, look everybody in the eye, remember everybody's name.
That changes the room, that changes the energy. When is
the last time you ask how are you? And genuinely listen?
You know what I mean? Like, so whenever i'm I
carried those things and those principles got me to where
I am. Along with everything else, but those things people remember,
(27:56):
you know. And so I was like, I'm not gonna
cut no corners, you know, let's do it. This is
who I am. I am in a relationship, I do that, kids.
I am fly, I do make great music. I am
an actor. Let's let's let's write about it and let's
talk about it and be pure about it. Now, an actor,
do you like being the villain? Because we've seen you
in the villain in power shows. We've seen you even
with joining Lucas, we see you as the villainy and
(28:19):
sometimes I don't like you know, the joint of Lucas
made me. I'm like, I don't like them. I have
to remember, I know, but it makes me not like them.
Like do you like playing the villain? Uh? Okay, yes,
but but in doses now you know what I mean?
(28:40):
Like when you play something like Dre Man, that's polarizing, bro,
and like, I know what that. If I was just
an actor, that would be the most amazing thing to
deal with being like, damn, bro, you killed that. But
I got a whole different other side, you know. So
it made music ten times harder, you know, you know,
because how do you have you got the number one
(29:01):
shows a villain, but then you got a number one
record that's R and B in love.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
So it's like you made me so man on how anyone.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Exactly? When it come on it's just like, you know
what I'm saying. So like that made it tougher, so
I had to get over. I had a conversation actually
with Tyres about it, like, bro, how do you do this? Man?
Like that was a long conversation. I bet y'all just
finished that shit. So I had a conversation with him.
I'm like, bro, like, how do you do this? Man?
(29:30):
It was lit how you explained to me. It was
just like, carry the vessel that's bringing you to where
you are. Just carry that, make people want to know
who that person is. Kill that to the point where yo,
who is this tray guy? And then be ready with
what you have. That's the only way you can do
both and be successful. So I took that and Jamie
actually said the same thing too, So it was like, oh,
(29:50):
this is how y'all did it?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
So when I got that information, it was body dre
and let people learn about ro Timmy, you know. And
So to answer your question about the the villain joining Lucas,
I told I said no twice, like I was like
really yeah, I was like no, that it was dope,
Like it's a dope changed. It was incredible, I said, finally, say, yes,
(30:14):
it was. It was a good money. I was like
the bad guy, right, you know, and I'm a fan
of his. But I didn't want to do videos like
I didn't want to and I wasn't to be a
video mixer. I didn't want to be exactly yeah, exactly,
I didn't you know what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying. I didn't want that. I didn't want that
because I had been so quiet musically for a while.
I want the first thing that people see is that
like always doing videos now, Like I didn't perception, you know.
(30:36):
But the bread was amazing. Then I actually heard the
record as well, and I was like, oh, this is
like a one man show, a straight monologue that I
gotta really study because it is about It was about
fifteen twenty pages of transcribed lyrics, and I got to
match his whole energy and switch up, and I was like, Oh,
(30:56):
this is gonna be fun, you know, And I mean
I think we should have want to. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Usually Joiners music videos are like motion pictures.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
It's phenomenal drama series, it's phenomenal. Yeah. So, but but
at this point, I thank god for Lena wafe Man
because this new character that I'm playing on The Shy
is completely different, you know, And so now I'm seeking
roles that are completely the opposite way because there's so
much more to me. I can do that easy. That's
I grew up around a lot of dre's, you know
what I mean. I grew up around niggas like this
(31:26):
all the time. So for me, it's just like, let's
show the other aspects of Huro timmy is and all
the ranges that I have. So the newest character on
the Shy, and it's been amazing. Man, we filmed season seven.
I was only Again. This goes back to just being
a good person. Like I met Lena ten years ago
at Sundance. Me and John Boyega did a movie Imperial Dreams,
(31:48):
and she had won for Dear White People, and energy was, yo,
how are you. You're amazing, You're great, and she was
coming up, I'm coming up, and it was we just
stayed close and making sure she was good. We haven't
seen it. I still haven't seen Lena since twenty and fourteen. Still,
but every year I'm saying Happy Birthday, having this, sending gifts.
(32:10):
She's sending me kids for my kids, She's sending me
things for you know, Happy Father's Day, all this, so
we love. Then she finally calls like, y'all got a
roll for you if you want to come do an episode,
you know, an episode or two? Are you working right now?
I'm like, no, I'm not. She was like, all right, cool,
let's come to Chicago. Got something for you and two
you know again you gotta take to try to tell
(32:31):
my story but also give, you know, as much as
I can. Where I was only given two episodes, but
with those two episodes, I bodied it to the point
where it's like I want him for the whole season
and hopefully God will for beyond whenever. You know, But
every time you get an opportunity in any field, yo,
(32:52):
you don't know who's watching, You don't know what's going on,
you don't know what hand you just shook, you don't
know how you acted that person's life. You don't know
how far this could go. So maximize every opportunity you
can because they don't come often. And so when I
understood that, I realized, Okay, you know, this is how
(33:15):
you do it. But then also being a good person
and also maximizing the moment, you know, it always happens
Now people were mad at you because you said that
you brought afrobeats to America. You still stand by that absolutely,
but the way it was worded was crazy. Right. So
I was the first American Nigerian to bring afrobeats to
(33:37):
a place where Americans were able to digest it on radio. Right.
So for example, I was going to program directors and
plan love rhythm and being they were like, yo, I
don't even know how to what's the beat on rhythm?
On this?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
This?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
What is this? I was in those moments, so when
I started doing it, it became a oh, I like
this Also doesn't mean that there weren't people before that
were doing it, had moments, but because I am from here,
and because it's relatable, because mister Butterscott's was doing what
it needs, they're so like and what I'm saying is
(34:13):
digestible and understood like it felt inclusive. So it was
a pacifier to start the movement here, not necessarily them
bringing it Wiz and they were always lit. But in
terms of the timing, Whiz then had the record with Drake,
then the Veto came out, so it was all the
(34:33):
same time. But for me it was I remember going
to program directors. They didn't even know what it was,
and so now this record's going crazy. It becomes oh,
I like this, Oh that's what it was. Yeah, okay,
And then I came back with in my Bed, so
it was like, oh, I was the only one besides
really Chris Brown that's out here that's really doing it
(34:54):
where it feels like, oh, it's a bridge. So I
was definitely would say I was the bridge and that however,
the Burners and DAVIDO and Wiz and all them, Yes,
of course if affected the world. But I remember going
to those moments where they didn't hear the one dance,
yet they didn't hear the I gotta ask people were
upset with Chris Brown, right, were not upset with Chris
(35:16):
Brown the Academy because they were saying that Chris Brown
is an American artist and he shouldn't be in the
afrobeats category. What's your thoughts on that. I believe that
he definitely should. Music is music. Music is music, bro,
Like That's what I'm saying. We get so crazy with
this trying to box people into things like is it
an afrobeat record? Yes? Is he? Is it one of
(35:39):
the best afrobeat records. Yes, so yes, he should be
in the afrobeat category.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
And it goes the other way too, because last year
Tyler won a Grammy over Sexy Red right, So it's
like if we can you know what I'm saying, it's
just still like a brisk Like if afrobeats can win
over win in the category where it's just you know
what was that. I think it was like rap or
new Artists or something like that, why can't Chris Brown
(36:06):
win or even be nominated in the afrobeat.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
No music has no bounds, man, that's what makes it
so beautiful. Like music has no that's saying, Yo, you
can't do this and you can't do that. Oh you
can't act and you can't sing. Oh you can't be
a host of a legendary show and then also be
a DJ. You can't do this and be like stupid.
Just no, I'm just dope, you know what I mean.
And so that's why for us it was like, let's
(36:30):
spoon feed the people. This is an R and B album,
this is an afro B album. If we win records
on this, then we win records. I mean, remember wars
on this. Then it's it's still the same project, but
you put it where you want to put it, you know,
And so that's how it was. But not definitely. Chris
Brown is one of the greatest I ever don it, bro, Like,
only few people can do it and be believed, and
(36:51):
I believe it, you know, and I feel like he's
the only other one for real.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
What is your favorite song on the album?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Y'are honestly fam Like, We've constructed this album to be
where I can sit with you and figure out what
kind of music you love, and I'll be able to
tell you like these will work for you. I'll look
at you and be like, yo, Bro, well good bye, Okay,
these are your favorites. They're like my kids. I can't
I can't pick yeah as my favorite. But there's no single,
(37:19):
you know, everything is a single. So if you're like, bro,
I love I love classic R and B. I got
that for you. Like Yo, I love poppy Phil, I
got that for you all. I love hip hop drums,
I got that for you. So like it's whatever it is,
it's whoever I'm speaking to, I'll make We've tailor made
it that way.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
The album is a candy store.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yes, I got the album of the Year. I love
that I got the album of the year, he said it,
I got the album of the year, genuinely. Let's get
into a record off that album. The album is out today, Yes, sir,
what do you want to get into today?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Let's get into something off the AfroB side side.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Oh when we just all right, let's start with h Yeah,
let's go what I wonder? I wonder? Yes, sir, let's
go without Dirty December. You can follow up close Dirty December.
There's almost dirty Say you choose rather, I wonder Dirty December? Yo,
your choice? Retter. All right, well, let's get into it
(38:18):
now before we leave. I also got to so Christmas
is around the corner, Yes, sir, you have two kids, yeah,
and a wife? So what do you do for Christmas time? Oh? Man?
Who this is again? Traditions do you have in the household? Well,
we're still figuring out the tradition. You know what. It's
a new one, you know what I'm saying. So we're
still forming it. So I personally like, honestly, man, she's
(38:41):
such an incredible human being that whatever she wants to do,
if she's like, babe, for Christmas, I want to travel
to I want to go home let's go to Tanzania.
She says, Babe, I want to just be a in
the crib and we all matching whatever if you want to.
Whatever she wants to do is there's the routine, bro like,
because she deserves that, Like I've I rip and run
(39:01):
too much for me to make every decision. So for her,
it's like my love, what you want and whatever you
want to do, that's the tradition. What's the so happy
for him? What's the dumbest thing you've done as a
husband or a father? When I mean dumb, Yeah, I'm
the dad. Like I dressed up in a ninja turtlesuit
for Halloween. All the kids school embarrassed the ish out
(39:22):
of a couple of years ago, I dressed up in
a baby outfit with a pamper. I embarrassed my kid.
I love it, like my kid was like my dad.
But I just I try to create those memories that
you know when I'm long ago and they'd be like, yo,
you remember when dad came to school, and it's like
I try to think that, what's the dumbest thing that
you've done that you'd be like this takes my jersey
cool power away? Oh yeah, So me and my son
and my dad. We all matched and I had them
(39:44):
do a butterscotch, the butterscotch face, baby Butterscotch butterscotch and
the mini butterscotch. So like we all and they have
no idea what they just did. But in six years,
seven years, they're gonna look and be like Dad, you
just like, wow, you are a dick head, bro, Why
would you do this? It's forever, It's forever there. So yeah,
(40:06):
that's probably what I said. But let's get into the
joint right now. I wonder the album is out right now?
Of course it's a double album, In My Heart, in
My Veins R and B side, AFRO B side, and
we appreciate you for joining us, all right. And I
was just gonna say one last thing. Ro Timmy is
one of those artists that always call and check up
on you. Yeah, no matter what's going on in your life,
good or bad, ro Timmy will hit you just checking
(40:29):
up on bre you brother. I want to make sure
you good as your mental, how's your help, how's the family?
He always does that, So I just want to say,
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
And I want to appreciate that too, because he's telling
me like I don't know, like you. My family check
up on me too, Like this is my friend, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Do know him. What's his real name. It's Roll Timmy.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up
in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
Morning everybody, it's the j Envy Justseilarie Charlamagne the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
in the building today. We got Roll Timmy. Yes, sir,
I'm good, bro. How you doing. How you doing, family,
I'm good. Good to see you, Good to see you.
It's been a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, I know you were working.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm doing what i can to my family because last
time we see him, he wasn't married. He about the
music park. I'm talking about both. I'm talking about like this.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm he has the husband and dad glow. You know
that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Thank you, thank you. Yea being and being and being
a father man. And it's changed my life man, because
having a three year old boy and a two year
old girl, like, I'm just learning so much about myself
as a man, and it just does it. So anybody
father's man, like, please spend time with your children because
at this age I'm seeing how much it is that
(00:57):
affects them. But I'm not there, you know, So it's
it's it's a beautiful thing just to see him grow
and them both grow.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, is it a difference, Like, I know you had
your son first, was it that anything changed when you
had your girl?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So yeah, so being a Nigerian mine now of paranting that,
you know, but my son, Like, so I'm blessed because
my son is actually a genius. So like and everybody
say that about you know that. We really can't put
him in school because his brain, the way he takes
information is at an eight year old level. Damn, So
(01:30):
we had to take So he's doing preschool just to
be around other kids for socialia, but in terms of
we have to get a tutor because it's too advanced.
So he's doing his alphabets backwards. He's speaking Spanish learning
Sea at three, so like, and so I tell him
things and he gets it once, So I'm blessed. But
then the funny thing is my daughter is actually faster
(01:51):
because she's watching her brother right, so now they're both
going through the same thing. So it's a blessing because
it's like the house teaching, y'all ship yes, yes, that
x y z z gg and that's not I know
my CBA. I'm like what you know what I'm saying.
So it's been beautiful, man, But I'm done. With too, though, Yeah,
(02:14):
I'm finishing. She you just have. He just told me
so much love, you know what an experience. But I'm done.
I'm done because this generation, dude's too many. You need
you need to focus on what you can. I'm already gone,
so I'm already at a disadvantage. So like just making
sure two is good at this in this time, then
I think that's enough for me personally. That's what I
said at first, too, and then you five six to it.
(02:37):
First I got a twenty three. She just turned twenty
three yesterday, twenty three, twenty one, and then we waited
like ten years, and now I got eleven or ten eight?
Wow in a two year old. Wow. I love being
a father. Like being a father is, it keeps you young,
it keeps you on your toes. It just it keeps
you hungry as well. Absolutely, and I enjoy it. Now.
(02:58):
Your wife said that after two days of meeting you,
she knew you were the one. Yeah, did you know
she was the one? After two days? Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Boy, don't get him in trouble.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Not because of her, but because I wasn't ready for
what she already was ready for. And usually women are
smarter than us you get what I'm saying. So like
she saw it, I knew it. I fought it, you
know what I mean. I knew that I never experienced
something like that. I knew that I met someone that
was already challenging me as a person in spiritually. She's
a prayer warriors, so like her whole thing was we
(03:34):
speaking in tongues for an hour and a half, were going,
were reading the Bible together, like, so she approached me
on a way that like it made me say, damn, bro,
you really aren't who you think you are as a person.
You're still a boy, you know. And so she made
me mentally level up. So I still was like, nah,
she's lit. But everybody then I'm like, oh my god,
I can't stop thinking, I can't stop vibing. I can't
(03:55):
stop I don't want nothing else. It was a gradual
how did you meet? We the Essence Fest, so so Visa.
She's she's an artist, but she retired, but she's an artist,
and she was headlining as well on the main stage
of Essence. It's a funny quick story that I was
there for Power, but I was also performing. So I
went to a private party. Okay, I'll stop. The time
(04:17):
I went from a private party and I actually had
a girl there with me. Oh there, yeah, like a fly,
like a nice little weekend vibe. And I'm still in
the whole Timmy Days. You know what I'm saying. I
was doing Timmy Days. So now I'm still violent, you know.
But it was Shorty was like, Yo, I don't feel
too well. I'm going to stay in and I was like, well,
(04:37):
I gotta go to this Spotify party really quickly. I'll
be there ten minutes. I meet you in a book.
She's like, I don't feel like going. But she was
with me the entire day. I go to the party
and all my power crew was this way, and I
was like, man, I just seen all these niggaves, I've
seen him. I'm good. Let me just do my own thing.
And there she is, like literally sitting on the pool table,
(04:59):
and it was just like like, oh wow, who is this?
And then we spoke for three four hours. So the
illest thing that I did that I feel like change
the trajectory of our relationship was the fact that she
was like, look, I really want to get to know you.
I think you're super lit. Let's see each other tomorrow.
And I said, honestly, like I have somebody here, I
don't want to cross ties. I don't want to play
you like that. I didn't want to. I don't want
(05:20):
to put you in a situation where you view me
as this guy. So let me handle this first and
then we can link, you know, whenever, when there's no distraction.
So she remembered that because I know if she would
have met me doing this, she would have been thinking
forever that, like anybody's like that, you know. So that's
how we met, and you know, we've been together ever since.
And she she wasn't living in the States at the time.
(05:41):
She was in Tanzania, so she flew out. And yeah,
so the young lady that you left in the hotel,
I was sick. She must feel sick. Why I gotta
be sick? Why you got to go out and leave me?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It could have been a headache from our drink. Too
much left to sit girl in want to go back somebody.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I don't know what I'm saying. It was crazy. So
how was that conversation with her? Because now it's like,
you know, yeah, if you wasn't sick, you could have
been the one. Yeah, I don't even know she could
have been the one. Okay, yeah, but she was dope.
But again, I wasn't in that mindset of anything. I
just met someone that made me say, oh, gotcha, this
is different, bro, don't lose this.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
But I do respect how you told the like, I'm
here with somebody and I don't even you know, I
don't want you to cross.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I love that, And I feel like again, like you know,
the way you meet people, sometimes people never forget because
then it starts being like, okay, well you did this
to me. Yeah, so then everything is always been integrity,
yeah you know, And so I wanted to start it
off that way. And then I had the conversation short
you like, look like you know this is this is
a vibe. We cool. I had a good time, you know,
I think we're just gonna and she was like, yeah,
(06:48):
come the problem It was nothing. It wasn't deep. So
how long were you together with your wife before you
actually asked the question? Oh, a year and a half.
And how did you know? Because nowadays I feel like
people wait a lot longer because they want to make
sure with you know, so many people talking about toxic relationships,
so many people getting divorced. What say this is the
(07:09):
one that I want to do it now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You just said he was speaking tongues for four hours.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Lord. Yeah. Nah. You know. The onliest thing that I've
always done in my career personally is I've always trusted
my instincts and I've always trusted my intuition. So I
never second guess anything, you know, And that's because I
never took an acting class, I never took music lessons.
It was always whatever. So this is no different that
(07:34):
I knew that it was Okay, this is the time, Oh,
this is gonna be it, this how it goes. And
I'm very in tune with God, so everything was just like, Okay,
this is who it needs to be and this is
who it is. So it was it was ordained, Bro.
I can't really tell you, like, yeah, it was just
like this woman doesn't deserve to wait, you know what
I'm saying, Like, what am I doing? I already know?
(07:56):
So why I waste time?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So what is the rotiney prayer and the prayers for.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
This man?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
The way you speak about v his wife, they're gonna
be asking for that prayer. I want to know how
has been a husband and a dad affected your music?
Like did it change make you want to sing different
about different things?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Or he keeps saying you got like nineteen songs.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But how does this impact your music now the family life?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Oh well, I'm able to make records that So for example,
I have a song called Blessed Right and it just
basically says on the album, basically says I have everything
I need and it's a mixture of afrobeat with gospel.
You know, that's a one version. Then I have a
version of you know when I met her in essence
(08:44):
and I wrote from the perspective of I don't need
nobody else, it's you, and put it on some cool drums.
So that love has been easy to transp because it's
transcribed because it's just naturally what's going on. And me
and Punch we did this whole project together. So my
stories are easy to convey to my brother, you know,
and so we're able just to get these going. But
(09:05):
as a father, you know, like you said earlier, like
before we even started, just being able to look in
my kids eyes and say yo, like I have no
choice but to win, yo, Like I have to do this.
I don't have a regular nine to five where I
can clock in, do what I need to do and
go home. I have to earn everything creatively and think ahead.
(09:26):
So when I look at him and he's happy and
he's doing his alphabets backwards, I'm like, I gotta fund this,
you know what I mean. And so that mindset has
made me even bigger hustler when it comes down to it.
And you know, I was going through a lot of
mental issues, not issues, but mental moments where it was
(09:46):
like COVID at the time, and then dealing with a
woman who I genuinely love for sure, but postpartum is
a monster that men don't really talk about that we
got to deal with as well, and being giving and
giving and giving. So I was going through so much
at the time that music was my therapy. So that's
why it took so long to make this next, this
(10:07):
project now, because one I had to get myself right
mentally and then make sure my family was good and
then kill a lot of my bad habits of who
I was before I go to the next stage. Now,
did you have to go to Derby? Yeah? I did,
I did. I tried it. I tried it. What made
you try it to? Because I'm usually the guy that
(10:27):
everyone goes to for answers. I'm using the guy that
everyone goes to for prayer. I'm using a guy that
everyone goes to, like, Yo, can you help me through this?
And when you're like a leader, or who do you
go to? You know? And my wife definitely is there.
But there's certain things men go through that no one
else can really and a lot of people don't go
(10:48):
through the same things I deal with on a daily
of fame and pressure and anxiety and you know, being
around people that just cloud chasing. It's a toxic industry.
So when you go through so much of that, no
one really is there to talk to. So then I
was like, God, help me. I did that. At the time,
(11:10):
I wasn't ready for that true conversation. Then I went
and said, let me just talk to somebody, and it
was great. But I think it's really important to have
the right therapist too, absolutely, you know. So it didn't
really match. And then that didn't work, but I could
see how it does work. Then it was like, no,
let me just let me just go to the Bible. Man,
(11:33):
let me just go to the Bible. And then I
just opened up Peter, and Peter became my therapist. You
know what I'm saying. So I just kept reading the Bible,
I read James and like, those two books changed my
mindset and just gave me like the guideline of how
to be a good man and a cerebral man. And
so that changed my life. Man, I genuinely changed my life.
So therapy helped open the door. But then I just
(11:55):
used God and disciples as my therapist. But you're going
through depression. Is that why you said I have to
see therapy. Was it something that you was like, I
need some help? Like what got you to the point
where was like I need this help? Was it anxiety?
Was it? Yeah? It was it was anxiety. It was
anxiety that I never felt before. It was feeling like
at the time I really couldn't speak to anybody, that
(12:16):
the world is shut down. And then also I had
a hit record, like so in my bed was going
ridiculous at that time, but I couldn't travel, you know,
so I couldn't promote it the way it needed to promote.
So you're seeing it go viral, but you're like, damn,
I can't even really do anything, you know, And so
that also played into it. But then it was also
just like you're not able to move, so you're starting
(12:38):
to see the bank account go a little, you know,
and so you're just like, hey, I never felt this.
I've always been good, and so being able to start
viewing self awareness like Okay, why do I feel this way?
What are my triggers? What do I go through that
makes me say? Okay? Let me use this as an outlet.
Who am I like? And I didn't have those answers
(12:59):
at the time, and I was praying, but I wasn't
as close to God as I am now, and it
was just like, man, I just need to talk to
another person, you know, with an unbiased and just give
me some advice. And I did it, and it was beautiful.
It was just that I wish that well, everything happens
for the reason, but I could see how it works
for people, and I just said, okay, you know, no more,
no more trying to tough it out. Why Why am
(13:19):
I toughing it out when I'm hurting myself? You know?
And I think as black men, we need and people
in general, as black men, we need to be okay
with being vulnerable. We need to be okay with dealing
with insecurities. We need to because it makes you strong
when you attack them, you know, and and starve the
things that you think are vices, you know. And so
I did that. I stopped drinking, stop smoking, stop doing
(13:42):
everything I was doing, and really just said, you know
this two years is going to be about me before
I even write a record. And that's when when I
got right. It was when everything just started falling in
my together. You know, are you drinking too much, were
you're smoking too much? Or where is it controlling your
life to the point where you it's like I have
to stop. It wasn't like an addiction, right, but it
(14:03):
was more of like for ten years of my life
through a whole power run, through music, through having platinum records.
You're in the club and doing this three four days
a week, so liquld becomes a vice. Liquld becomes and
then you're having some time you didn't even realize social
anxieties or things. So you're like, damn, I don't want
to really talk to these people, but this is soothing me,
(14:24):
so let me drink this to get through the moment,
you know. So you don't realize and then you're like, damn,
I gotta show I'm on tour and the like, why
do I feel like I need to drink a little
bit before I hit the stage? Man? Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. You know, as a community, you know
you're on stage.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You've had the same thing. Yep, And now I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, when I was pregnant, of course I couldn't drink,
but before that I did stop, like, yo, why do
I need a going It's just like that nervousness and
anxiety and you didn't even know it's that until you
go through something and you're like, damn, I don't need
that exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And so for me it was like not again, it
was it was a it was a crutch, not rather,
not a dittion. I didn't need it, but it was like, oh,
this is good for what I need right now, you know,
and smoking and things like that, and it was just
like escape, you know. And so when I realized, damn,
I'm using this as an escape rather than just for
joy or pleasure of whatever. I don't I don't want that,
(15:20):
it's how do you deal with it now? Because your
life still wraps around clubs in the industry, I'm sure
you still have those anxieties of going to a club
and not want to talk to people or performing on stage.
How do you deal with that? Now? I think I
realized that that vices and liquor and things are are
the isn't the problem? I realized that there was. That's
(15:41):
just the solution. It's not the problem. It's a deeper
thing that it's it's me. So once I started getting
knee whole, Once I started realizing, yo, you are enough, bro.
Once I started realizing there's a relationship with God that
needs to be top tapped, and more, once I started
realizing that the devil is a liar, you know, Once
(16:04):
I started realizing self awareness is going to change this.
Once I got me right, I didn't need those things.
I liked how I felt better without them, actually, you
know what I mean. So it's like it wasn't a solution.
It was it was a solution to a problem that
I had to work in within myself, you know. And
so once I realized that it took the power away
from anything, you know, I didn't need validation even and
(16:27):
in this industry you get so used to getting validated
and you're lit. It becomes oh, this is how I
need to feel. It's a normal thing. So when you're
not getting that at times, it's like, what's wrong with me?
What changed? What happened? You know? And so even going
through that, so just I tell my boys and tell
people like, listen, man, it's okay to use these things
(16:47):
as testimony because more people are going through these things
than not, you know. And so when you can see
somebody who's just happens to be in a public space,
I'm no different from you.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I just worked on myself, you know, I did the
little things. And again it is not a saying an addiction.
It's just I know that when there was an issue,
i'd run to something or you know, and so I
just would make it where I didn't run to anything.
I just ran to God and I ran to myself
and my family, you know. And so that was what
it was.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I love hearing that you got the song Bestie, Yes
you sampled from the Lauren Hills killing Me Softly? Did
she need to hear that before you?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yes she did.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
How was it working with her even even just let
her hear that?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So Bessie is one of my favorite records on the album,
and it's one of those songs that is divine man.
So Lauren Hill went to my high school. So we
all went to me, Sizza, Lauryn Hill, a lot of
other people, you know what I mean, and so yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
so yeah. So we all from that, from that cloth,
(17:50):
and it was amazing because full circle really quickly. I
was a freshman when she came and did her Hall
of Fame speech. So I was third roll sitting watching
her get her speech, and I'm like, man, I'm telling
my boy, I'm like, yo, bro, Like I'm gonna do that, bro.
And they don't really give They give it like maybe
every ten years to somebody, you know. And I was like,
(18:11):
I'm just gonna be me, bro, And it's like, there's
like four thousand people that go to our school, so
the odds of it being you is not really likely.
So and I just worked, worked, work, and I did
the little things, man. And in twenty eighteen, I was
inducted to my high school Hall offesto, you know what
I mean. And I brought my boy, who I told
I'm gonna don't you know. And then but also that
(18:31):
same year, Sissa was invited as well to the Hall
of Fame. So she and and a lot of people
don't understand that when we grew up, like I was
a ballplayer, singing girls, that popular kid, and she was
like kind of like an outcast, you know what I
mean to herself. Really didn't and she'll talk about it.
But I was always been like, yo, come hang out
with us, come kick it with us, when everybody was
(18:53):
like pushing away, pushing away because we didn't understand the
swag then like she was swaggy like this this then
you know, so it's different, you know, and it was
like whatever, So so it was dope to hear, you know,
acknowledge that in her speech to that, you know, like
Rod took care of me when I was in school.
But do you call it now? But like your remember
when the whole school was against you, charged about it
(19:15):
right now, But remember it's so dope because during the
time that love rhythm was going crazy and my bed
was going crazy, and then she called me and was like, yo,
I love what you're doing. Let's get it. It's going
And then literally when like two weeks later, her stuff
started going bsurd and it was like okay, Uhlana, you
(19:42):
remember that song that you said it goes in this
and me td you know, one, you know, So it
was it was cool, but you have to respect it.
But sorry, So Lauren Hill she heard the record, thank
god for Empire to clear it, but she had to
clear it first. But I wasn't there when she heard
it though. But but yeah, from what I heard, it
was love. And you know, again like having a legend.
(20:05):
You know, I've used her sample twice actually, you know,
from in my bed. Oh yeah, you know. And so
it's always paying homage, you know. And so that record
doing well was really cool. But yeah, it's been it's
been a it's been a it's been a beautiful journey,
beautiful journey.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Speaking bed. Do you ever feel pressure to match the
success of Lover for them or in my bed?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Uh? As a competitor, yes, you know what I mean.
As a dog, yes, but you know it's it's it's
this moment you know there. Oh yeah, and that's but
the thing is too, I was making those type of
records right while I was feeling power, right, so the
label will be like, yo, dog, you got two days
to make a hit, Go to la do what you
(20:45):
need to do. I was never able to comfortably make
music like these other artists are able to do so
I was thank God for the talent. I was able
to go make a record, go back to set. While
I'm making a record, studying my lines in the booth,
there's a meeting. All right, so's supposed to okay? Cool?
Got it? Like I'm getting that, and thank god it
(21:08):
was able to go platinum. But at the same time,
I never had the opportunity that other artists had. So
now I was like, ro let me get yourself right,
take care of your family. This is a season that
you're supposed to grow home because when it goes crazy again,
the foundation got to be solid. That's why you're sitting down,
you know. So then it was like, okay, but in
(21:29):
the meantime, let's make the best music possible. So that's
why this project took two years, because I wanted to
make eighteen in my bed moments, you know what I
mean with this double album, and so I feel comfortable.
I was able to take my time, visualize it. And
the cool thing about it is that I was doing
in my bed and servicing my afrobeat fans instead of
(21:53):
the R and B side would be like, yo, where's
our record? You know, And so now we were like,
let's literally make a double album nine records, Afrobeat, nine records,
R and b's called in My Heart for the R
and B side, in My Veins for the Nigerian Blood.
So you get in two versions of row timmy full
album and these are my life stories, you know. But
(22:14):
then it was like yo, some people just like the
acting side, So like, let's figure this out. Let's fund
and pay for every music video to be shot. So
we put, we put money down, we put I put
about a quarter million and make every video. And then
then the labels like, yo, we got ten songs for you, bro,
we can only do ten. I was like, now I
(22:35):
don't want to do ten, I want to do eighteen.
Well okay, well you gotta pay for it. Pay for
the other eight paid. The producer paid everything. So it
was like again I tell artists or people man like,
you have to invest in yourself. You gotta believe in
yourself because I know what this is gonna do and
you may not see it right now, but I know
(22:55):
what this is gonna do, so let me take this
upon myself to make it happen with no question. So
they were like, we could do two record, two videos.
It was like all right, cool that standard. This is
great stuff, thank you, you know what I mean. But
now we're doing eighteen. You know, we're gonna service it
out for everybody to be able to have a moment
with this song because it's real to me acting as well.
So you get in the R and B side, you're
(23:17):
getting the afro B side, and you're getting the actor,
you know, and I directed everything, you know what I mean,
And so shout out to Beyonce because I know Beyonce
has done something whereas the double album and you know,
but what we're doing differently is we're treating every song
like a single. So the album drops, every song is out,
but every three weeks you're gonna get a new video.
(23:39):
So you're gonna be getting new content from the same
project for about seven eight months.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
This is the real definition of a body of work,
a body of work.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I was like, yo, Like, if I'm gonna I'm not
gonna come out and do everything that a regular artists go.
Two weeks, they do promo and then you don't hear
nothing else that's done. Nah, I work too hard for this, yo.
I put my life on this. I put a half
a million into this thing on my own it has
to work. So we're gonna melt this, make it go,
make the music undeniable. You're not a messy artist. You're
(24:07):
not talking to somebody that's gonna talk about somebody like I know, bro,
Like I know I can get up here and have
three strippers and put a thousand dollars on each of
the ass and be like, it's up, what's up. Yeah,
I'm single and it's gonna go viral, and then listen
to the breakup song about my woman. Then everybody listening
to I know, take that clip and say that you
(24:28):
wanted to be We're gonna cut that up, so go ahead,
go yeah, well you know what I mean. I know
I can do that. I know I can manipulate the
system because it's what it is. People like that type
of you.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Have done that before, because I was looking at an
interview where you said it was Fitty's idea to say
that you owe him money to keep the momentimum.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Going yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. So Love with Them Loved
Them was number one at the time, and he was like, yo, bro,
honestly I got this idea, man, Like, Okay, I I left,
I got out. My deal with fifty was a deal
or it was a two album deal, but I had
one more and I said, bro, I want to do
this on my own. You know, I believe in this,
(25:10):
And why did you want to get out? Did you
feel like no? I think I think at the time
there was a lot he had just fired everybody, you know,
and so like there was a lot going on at
the time, and the show was so on fire that
it was like, there's no way that there could be
focused on what this is at this particular time, especially
because my character's going O d Lin crazy. Yeah what
(25:30):
I'm saying. So I'm like, let me just take myself
out of this because at the timing wasn't right to
be a focus. So I was like, let me just
bet on myself, you know what I mean. And thank
God for his his his his love for me and
his wisdom. He was like, look, I'll let you out,
but you know, mechanically, you owe me three hundred thousand
(25:51):
for the investment that I've put in there. So I
had to pay him back mechanically. So from the sales
of my project product is how he'll get paid back,
which is standard, you know what I mean. So like
I didn't have to give him three hundred thousand like this.
But over time, whatever records I do work with with
whoever I work with, next they get he gets that money.
So the record we put the song out, Love Rhythm
(26:12):
is number one R and B album, Going Crazy, and
he calls me. He's like, look, bro, I got this idea.
I'm gonna say I don't like you. I'm gonna say
I want to punch you in your nose. I'm gonna
tell you I don't I'm gonna rock with you what's
in there. But the thing I'm gonna do is I'm
gonna mention twenty five times that how can this nigga
not pay me when his album is number one? So
(26:33):
when he did that, the psychological psychology of people is like,
what am I missing? Wait? Rog got a number one album?
Where what's going on? And that's that's how it blew,
you know what I'm saying. So that's Genie's marketing, definitely
thousand and his marketing, you know what I mean. So
it worked because he got his money back in like
four months, you know what I mean. So it works.
(26:53):
But at the same time, yes, I know I can
do those things, you know, And for me, I was
like though only way I can combat gimmicks and being
messy and things that just make undeniable product that lives forever.
You know. That's why in my heart, in my veins
feels like that man. And that's how I grew up.
Like being from Jersey, there was no cutting corners, there
(27:15):
was no you have to work for what you got,
you know. Being Nigerian either as well, I didn't cut corners,
you know. I did the little things, you know what
I mean. So that's what it was for me. I understand,
I understood very early, like the little things is will
keep you around the longevity. Where when was the last
time you go to your job and you shake everybody's hand,
(27:35):
you know, look everybody in the eye, remember everybody's name.
That changes the room, that changes the energy. When is
the last time you ask how are you? And genuinely listen?
You know what I mean? Like, so whenever i'm I
carried those things and those principles got me to where
I am. Along with everything else, but those things people remember,
(27:56):
you know. And so I was like, I'm not gonna
cut no corners, you know, let's do it. This is
who I am. I am in a relationship, I do that, kids.
I am fly, I do make great music. I am
an actor. Let's let's let's write about it and let's
talk about it and be pure about it. Now, an actor,
do you like being the villain? Because we've seen you
in the villain in power shows. We've seen you even
with joining Lucas, we see you as the villainy and
(28:19):
sometimes I don't like you know, the joint of Lucas
made me. I'm like, I don't like them. I have
to remember, I know, but it makes me not like them.
Like do you like playing the villain? Uh? Okay, yes,
but but in doses now you know what I mean?
(28:40):
Like when you play something like Dre Man, that's polarizing, bro,
and like, I know what that. If I was just
an actor, that would be the most amazing thing to
deal with being like, damn, bro, you killed that. But
I got a whole different other side, you know. So
it made music ten times harder, you know, you know,
because how do you have you got the number one
(29:01):
shows a villain, but then you got a number one
record that's R and B in love.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
So it's like you made me so man on how anyone.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Exactly? When it come on it's just like, you know
what I'm saying. So like that made it tougher, so
I had to get over. I had a conversation actually
with Tyres about it, like, bro, how do you do this? Man?
Like that was a long conversation. I bet y'all just
finished that shit. So I had a conversation with him.
I'm like, bro, like, how do you do this? Man?
(29:30):
It was lit how you explained to me. It was
just like, carry the vessel that's bringing you to where
you are. Just carry that, make people want to know
who that person is. Kill that to the point where yo,
who is this tray guy? And then be ready with
what you have. That's the only way you can do
both and be successful. So I took that and Jamie
actually said the same thing too, So it was like, oh,
(29:50):
this is how y'all did it?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
So when I got that information, it was body dre
and let people learn about ro Timmy, you know. And
So to answer your question about the the villain joining Lucas,
I told I said no twice, like I was like
really yeah, I was like no, that it was dope,
Like it's a dope changed. It was incredible, I said, finally, say, yes,
(30:14):
it was. It was a good money. I was like
the bad guy, right, you know, and I'm a fan
of his. But I didn't want to do videos like
I didn't want to and I wasn't to be a
video mixer. I didn't want to be exactly yeah, exactly,
I didn't you know what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying. I didn't want that. I didn't want that
because I had been so quiet musically for a while.
I want the first thing that people see is that
like always doing videos now, Like I didn't perception, you know.
(30:36):
But the bread was amazing. Then I actually heard the
record as well, and I was like, oh, this is
like a one man show, a straight monologue that I
gotta really study because it is about It was about
fifteen twenty pages of transcribed lyrics, and I got to
match his whole energy and switch up, and I was like, Oh,
(30:56):
this is gonna be fun, you know, And I mean
I think we should have want to. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Usually Joiners music videos are like motion pictures.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
It's phenomenal drama series, it's phenomenal. Yeah. So, but but
at this point, I thank god for Lena wafe Man
because this new character that I'm playing on The Shy
is completely different, you know, And so now I'm seeking
roles that are completely the opposite way because there's so
much more to me. I can do that easy. That's
I grew up around a lot of dre's, you know
what I mean. I grew up around niggas like this
(31:26):
all the time. So for me, it's just like, let's
show the other aspects of Huro timmy is and all
the ranges that I have. So the newest character on
the Shy, and it's been amazing. Man, we filmed season seven.
I was only Again. This goes back to just being
a good person. Like I met Lena ten years ago
at Sundance. Me and John Boyega did a movie Imperial Dreams,
(31:48):
and she had won for Dear White People, and energy was, yo,
how are you. You're amazing, You're great, and she was
coming up, I'm coming up, and it was we just
stayed close and making sure she was good. We haven't
seen it. I still haven't seen Lena since twenty and fourteen. Still,
but every year I'm saying Happy Birthday, having this, sending gifts.
(32:10):
She's sending me kids for my kids, She's sending me
things for you know, Happy Father's Day, all this, so
we love. Then she finally calls like, y'all got a
roll for you if you want to come do an episode,
you know, an episode or two? Are you working right now?
I'm like, no, I'm not. She was like, all right, cool,
let's come to Chicago. Got something for you and two
you know again you gotta take to try to tell
(32:31):
my story but also give, you know, as much as
I can. Where I was only given two episodes, but
with those two episodes, I bodied it to the point
where it's like I want him for the whole season
and hopefully God will for beyond whenever. You know, But
every time you get an opportunity in any field, yo,
(32:52):
you don't know who's watching, You don't know what's going on,
you don't know what hand you just shook, you don't
know how you acted that person's life. You don't know
how far this could go. So maximize every opportunity you
can because they don't come often. And so when I
understood that, I realized, Okay, you know, this is how
(33:15):
you do it. But then also being a good person
and also maximizing the moment, you know, it always happens
Now people were mad at you because you said that
you brought afrobeats to America. You still stand by that absolutely,
but the way it was worded was crazy. Right. So
I was the first American Nigerian to bring afrobeats to
(33:37):
a place where Americans were able to digest it on radio. Right.
So for example, I was going to program directors and
plan love rhythm and being they were like, yo, I
don't even know how to what's the beat on rhythm?
On this?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
This?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
What is this? I was in those moments, so when
I started doing it, it became a oh, I like
this Also doesn't mean that there weren't people before that
were doing it, had moments, but because I am from here,
and because it's relatable, because mister Butterscott's was doing what
it needs, they're so like and what I'm saying is
(34:13):
digestible and understood like it felt inclusive. So it was
a pacifier to start the movement here, not necessarily them
bringing it Wiz and they were always lit. But in
terms of the timing, Whiz then had the record with Drake,
then the Veto came out, so it was all the
(34:33):
same time. But for me it was I remember going
to program directors. They didn't even know what it was,
and so now this record's going crazy. It becomes oh,
I like this, Oh that's what it was. Yeah, okay,
And then I came back with in my Bed, so
it was like, oh, I was the only one besides
really Chris Brown that's out here that's really doing it
(34:54):
where it feels like, oh, it's a bridge. So I
was definitely would say I was the bridge and that however,
the Burners and DAVIDO and Wiz and all them, Yes,
of course if affected the world. But I remember going
to those moments where they didn't hear the one dance,
yet they didn't hear the I gotta ask people were
upset with Chris Brown, right, were not upset with Chris
(35:16):
Brown the Academy because they were saying that Chris Brown
is an American artist and he shouldn't be in the
afrobeats category. What's your thoughts on that. I believe that
he definitely should. Music is music. Music is music, bro,
Like That's what I'm saying. We get so crazy with
this trying to box people into things like is it
an afrobeat record? Yes? Is he? Is it one of
(35:39):
the best afrobeat records. Yes, so yes, he should be
in the afrobeat category.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
And it goes the other way too, because last year
Tyler won a Grammy over Sexy Red right, So it's
like if we can you know what I'm saying, it's
just still like a brisk Like if afrobeats can win
over win in the category where it's just you know
what was that. I think it was like rap or
new Artists or something like that, why can't Chris Brown
(36:06):
win or even be nominated in the afrobeat.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
No music has no bounds, man, that's what makes it
so beautiful. Like music has no that's saying, Yo, you
can't do this and you can't do that. Oh you
can't act and you can't sing. Oh you can't be
a host of a legendary show and then also be
a DJ. You can't do this and be like stupid.
Just no, I'm just dope, you know what I mean.
And so that's why for us it was like, let's
(36:30):
spoon feed the people. This is an R and B album,
this is an afro B album. If we win records
on this, then we win records. I mean, remember wars
on this. Then it's it's still the same project, but
you put it where you want to put it, you know,
And so that's how it was. But not definitely. Chris
Brown is one of the greatest I ever don it, bro, Like,
only few people can do it and be believed, and
(36:51):
I believe it, you know, and I feel like he's
the only other one for real.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
What is your favorite song on the album?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Y'are honestly fam Like, We've constructed this album to be
where I can sit with you and figure out what
kind of music you love, and I'll be able to
tell you like these will work for you. I'll look
at you and be like, yo, Bro, well good bye, Okay,
these are your favorites. They're like my kids. I can't
I can't pick yeah as my favorite. But there's no single,
(37:19):
you know, everything is a single. So if you're like, bro,
I love I love classic R and B. I got
that for you. Like Yo, I love poppy Phil, I
got that for you all. I love hip hop drums,
I got that for you. So like it's whatever it is,
it's whoever I'm speaking to, I'll make We've tailor made
it that way.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
The album is a candy store.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yes, I got the album of the Year. I love
that I got the album of the year, he said it,
I got the album of the year, genuinely. Let's get
into a record off that album. The album is out today, Yes, sir,
what do you want to get into today?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Let's get into something off the AfroB side side.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Oh when we just all right, let's start with h Yeah,
let's go what I wonder? I wonder? Yes, sir, let's
go without Dirty December. You can follow up close Dirty December.
There's almost dirty Say you choose rather, I wonder Dirty December? Yo,
your choice? Retter. All right, well, let's get into it
(38:18):
now before we leave. I also got to so Christmas
is around the corner, Yes, sir, you have two kids, yeah,
and a wife? So what do you do for Christmas time? Oh? Man?
Who this is again? Traditions do you have in the household? Well,
we're still figuring out the tradition. You know what. It's
a new one, you know what I'm saying. So we're
still forming it. So I personally like, honestly, man, she's
(38:41):
such an incredible human being that whatever she wants to do,
if she's like, babe, for Christmas, I want to travel
to I want to go home let's go to Tanzania.
She says, Babe, I want to just be a in
the crib and we all matching whatever if you want to.
Whatever she wants to do is there's the routine, bro like,
because she deserves that, Like I've I rip and run
(39:01):
too much for me to make every decision. So for her,
it's like my love, what you want and whatever you
want to do, that's the tradition. What's the so happy
for him? What's the dumbest thing you've done as a
husband or a father? When I mean dumb, Yeah, I'm
the dad. Like I dressed up in a ninja turtlesuit
for Halloween. All the kids school embarrassed the ish out
(39:22):
of a couple of years ago, I dressed up in
a baby outfit with a pamper. I embarrassed my kid.
I love it, like my kid was like my dad.
But I just I try to create those memories that
you know when I'm long ago and they'd be like, yo,
you remember when dad came to school, and it's like
I try to think that, what's the dumbest thing that
you've done that you'd be like this takes my jersey
cool power away? Oh yeah, So me and my son
and my dad. We all matched and I had them
(39:44):
do a butterscotch, the butterscotch face, baby Butterscotch butterscotch and
the mini butterscotch. So like we all and they have
no idea what they just did. But in six years,
seven years, they're gonna look and be like Dad, you
just like, wow, you are a dick head, bro, Why
would you do this? It's forever, It's forever there. So yeah,
(40:06):
that's probably what I said. But let's get into the
joint right now. I wonder the album is out right now?
Of course it's a double album, In My Heart, in
My Veins R and B side, AFRO B side, and
we appreciate you for joining us, all right. And I
was just gonna say one last thing. Ro Timmy is
one of those artists that always call and check up
on you. Yeah, no matter what's going on in your life,
good or bad, ro Timmy will hit you just checking
(40:29):
up on bre you brother. I want to make sure
you good as your mental, how's your help, how's the family?
He always does that, So I just want to say,
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
And I want to appreciate that too, because he's telling
me like I don't know, like you. My family check
up on me too, Like this is my friend, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Do know him. What's his real name. It's Roll Timmy.
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