August 18, 2015 • 34 mins
Maino Discusses 'King of Brooklyn 3', Standing Up For Meek Mill & More
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm real people, real celebrity join the Breakfast Yeah, I'm Charlomagne,
God Angelie, the world most Dangerous Morning to show the
Breakfast Club. Maybe had to run out to do something
and we got the King of Brooklyn here, Yeah, King
of Brooklyn. Three. Yeah, it could be deceiving. I go,
(00:23):
I'll go. I'll go maybe twice a month, really to
the gym twice a month, Yeah, maybe three times. I'm not.
I'm not doing as well as I should be. If
I was going to the gym maybe three times a week,
I'll be I'll be reallyster. But I don't. I don't
go as much as I should. But when I do,
when I do go, I'll do a lot of cardio. Yeah,
(00:43):
I mean too. You know. I like to try to
stay lean and burn the fat. I'm saying, you look lean.
What you changed to diet or something a little bit
like I was going I was doing. I was staying
away from the bread, staying away from all the carbs,
you know, saytoes, rice and stuff like that, and just
trying to maintained you know what I mean. Listen, these
dudes ain't better than me. And he definitely acute her.
(01:04):
You know what I mean, I gotta I gotta maintained understanding.
Girls be like cute, so I gotta can't be out
y'all flat. And you know, I know I saw the
most recent rumor was you in black China? I saw
you guys posted up on the glos and everything you
saw really, Yes, I didn't know shaw that. I google
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it right now. You problem? Why do people think you
could just be friends with a woman though people don't
think I could be friends? Yeah? Why every time you
take a picture, Um, I don't think that. They don't think.
I don't think people believe that. Do you think people
believe that me and you look out relationship and we've
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never ever like me and you like this even though
you don't handle certain business for me like a got
so much girl friends forces you in the position and
be like, you know what, let me just be your brother.
There you go, that's probably what it is. That's probably
(02:10):
what it is. There you go the kob three. Yeah
out right now, I like, all right, I'm gonna tell
you some of my favorite songs in there. I like
that pm P song with chings. That's right, that's that's joint.
That's it right. I think that should be a single
right there. That was you know what that was originally
what it was supposed to be. But I'm I'm gonna
go harder than them. It's been like it's been, it's
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been moving and it's crazy that you know, a lot
of times, you know, when when you see records moving,
it's all about the machine that moves it, right, But
every now and then you get you get records that
move organically, like right now, you see all these people
posting these workout videos to it. You can't buy that.
That's that's that's just the natural, you know, progression of
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a record that just you know, feels like it relates
to people. So it's it's been doing good man, and
I feel blessed. I feel good man working out and
you don't even work out there, you know, I did,
I did? You know, I did? I did? I did.
I did two workout videos or maybe three and posted
it and from there it was just crazy, you know,
with with everybody posting videos and you know, I see
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one dude, he got the ball bell, he throwing up
like this, he's singing it at the same time, you know,
and it just feels good to be able to make
music that that touches people. Man, you know what I mean,
exactly a good problems man. Oh, I'll see you on
talking about it a lot. Now you got a song
about it. Yeah, yeah and shot listen man, shout out
the Chinks um, rest of God, God, blessing man. You
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know I was, uh, I was. I was doing these
things on my on my on my instagram. You know why.
I was calling out dudes for some of the outrageous
behavior that they was having right that. And it was
funny because I would trying to make it funny purposely
because you know, it was like, these are the problems
that only you know what I'm saying, These are the
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problems that only we'll have. So I would make it funny,
like I'd be like, yo, you know, if you're a
up and then you know what I'm saying. You got
your girl and you holy hands with a girl and
just come by and just touch your girl about her
ass and something like that, and you turn around, you
don't do nothing, and then you got your problems. You
know what I'm saying. So it was funny. And Chinks
called me one day and was like, yo, I see
your instagram, man, I got something for you. And he
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came with that hook in that verse, and it was
just so crazy. Were supposed to shoot the video. Um
two days like two days before before he passed away,
we was talking about shooting videos. So I'm still gonna
do it regardless though death affect you because you dude, Yeah,
in the street, not as much, man, all I mean,
I'm I'm. I got out the streets and I'm fortunate,
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you know, I see you and I see people in Jersey,
now you know what I nah. But he wasn't doing nothing.
I understand. I understand the question though, like it affects
me because at the end of the day, we all
black males getting trying to get away from that, that life,
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and we all you know, sacrifice, you know, time with
our family and and and been through certain things in
our life and our development. And then we got here
and the whole objective was to try to get away
from that. So for that to come back and invite
you it, yo, listen. I was the first person to
post it. I was the first person to post it
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because I had, I had, I was, I was. I
did a show and um and Unicut and I was
on my way back and the homeoms called me and
was like tax Stone called me and he said that
somebody called him from the hospital. And I spoke to
Buyino and then I posted it and then Meat called
me asked me was it true? And I was like, yeo,
it's true. You know, um, that could be any one
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of us. We got kids, we got families, were all
trying to, you know, make this music work for us.
You understand, that's what the objective is. We've been in jail,
we've been we've been in the streets, we've been banging,
we've been going to war and all that or whatever
over over money and misunderstandings and stuff like that. And
we get into the game and the whole objective is
the is the is the win. It's just it's just unfortunate, man.
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And it bothers me. It bothered me a lot, because
it's like trouble. Trouble finds you like you're trying to
get you're trying to get away. You do what everything
you can to be out of it, if you know,
you know, sometimes it made me feel like because because
he was so humbled to me, you know, and and
and and watching him and I remember him from back
when stack Bundle days and stuff like that, and it
was like it's just like, damn, do it paid? Do you?
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Like this is why you gotta punish all the time,
Like you know what I'm saying, like, do it? Do
it pay? To be a good Sometimes you question like
you should be the coolest. It just come blow your
head off. Like so it's sometimes it plays with your
mind and it's like, you know, but you know what,
we ain't gonna go to that negative route. We're gonna
stay We're gonna stay on the same path. We're gonna
do what we're supposed to do. And you know what
I mean, it's just unfortunate, man. And it touched me
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because I look at my son. He twenty years old,
and I can't even think of a day where he
could be like, damn, my father ain't come home no more.
Absolutely well. I mean I always look at you as
a business person and I as well, you know, as
an artist. So let's talk about some other things that
you have going on. I know, King of Brooklyn three, Yeah,
is that right now? Right now? And I gave it
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for free again, I did it for free. Did it
for free this midnight? Yeah, midnights for free. Let the
people have because I want the energy. It sounds like
a real album, not just the free They put my
heart and soul into it. That's what I want. I
want to such people's soul. But you know, I'll be
all doing you know, different things. You know, we're hustling.
You know, I tell you all my business. Right, you're
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doing television and you finally go do the TV thing. Man, No,
not like you think, not like you think. Um, I
will share this with y'all because you know me, I
like I like to be unpredictable, you know what I mean.
I feel like I'm the underdog and I feel like
people they look at me one way, they don't really
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understand me. So I like to do things and surprise people.
But I'm actually I actually developed developed the show. I
actually developed the show. I wrote, I wrote, I wrote
a few things out. You know, I got a couple
of things drafted, and I went and you know, shout
out to Isha Entertainment, Michael Holshon, shout out to Melissa Cooper.
We partnered it up on the show. I don't really
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want to get a shot. I don't really want to
not it's not about me. Why didn't you do a
show about you? Because that wasn't the words that was
in the works. But yeah, but I didn't. I just
felt like I didn't want to show because you filmed
some of that. Yeah, yeah we did. We did you
know it was with VH one. Um, I just felt
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like I didn't want to show that was that that
really just catered to my love life. I felt like
I was more, it was more parts to me than
just you know, my love life and stuff like that.
And then I guess I get spooked. I look at
these shows, I'd be like, damn. Part of being an
artist is some of the mystique that you don't know
about everything. And I look at some of these it
(09:00):
was in me like, damn, I liked you, man I
didn't know you was a lame like this. Damn. I
just like how Mano used a slick word like love life.
Yeah forever. I just want to say. And the first
thing I thought, man, is your love life is fascinating.
If you want to call life, why would you say
that because it is fascinating? How is that you're gonna
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put because you're gonna you're gonna put a bad, bad name.
I feel like it is. Um, I'm trying to think
how can I say felt us? I feel like Mano
love life at certain points wants to be in love,
but then I felt at certain times you don't, and
I just don't. I feel like you might get with
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a good girl and whatever, but you just can't. The
dots aren't connecting properly, and women fall in love with
Mano do they? I know one female in particular. You go, oh,
she was in the hospital. That's where I was should be. No,
(10:05):
you don't even know that I know this girl. And well, anyway,
she she was upset because I guess you stopped messing
with her. She said the dud was so good. She
was all broken up over it is that so got
a routine going here that reads really really so. But
what would make you cut a girl off? I'm I'm
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I'm a simple guy. Man like I'm I'm gonna fall
out the chair. I'm an easy going dude, you know,
like you know, they think I'm cute, they say I'm handsome,
you feel me, they like my ways. But listen, I
stopped talking to a girl before for not voting. You
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know it's good as a mother, ladies, make sure you
get out here. Man, you would rather she vote? It
don't matter who she votes for. It was something that
she said though that Obama. It was Obama re election
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don't count and were in somehow we were talking about Obama.
You know, I'll be watching the news. Obama came up
and I was like, yo, you voted. She was like,
voting for what They're gonna kill him anyway, I said, Yo, man,
I ain't never spoke to that girl again. No, I'm
like that too. I don't like that kind of ignorant.
That's ignorant though, Like at the end of the day,
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like listen, if we can't, you know, build and grow
and grow with each other and learn from each other,
and then it just just a waste of time. So after,
after you come away from the sex, then what is
it really about that. I used to date this girl
who she had an inverted nipple and I asked her
what is that? And she was like, asked the nipple.
All the guys like the suck on. I'm like, oh,
you gotta go, yeah, get some deformities out there situations.
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But he just didn't want thinking another man sucking on
that nipples disgusting, disgusting. Yeah, it's just stupid to say though,
Like for real, Like, we gotta be able to build.
We gotta be able to grow, you know what I
mean At the end of the day, when we after
the club, after the radio, after we're on the road,
after the shows, after the whole everything that's going on,
and we're just chilling in the crib, I need what's
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your character? Like, we need to be able to talk.
Can we build? Can we talk outside of what's going
on in the club? Can we talk outside of music?
I can? And if we if I'm with a female
that that's just talking ignorant. It's crazy. It's like it's
a turn off for me. Now. I also saw you
this really made me laugh on CNN. Yeah, as a
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as a as a a token inmate, yeah, correspondent in
this jail that. Yeah, they called me up the CNN
and I thought, I was like, you know, what cool
I do. I'll do it. You know, it's the first time.
But they kept calling me to come back, and I
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was like, what they want to talk about? They want
to know, you know, you know, they want to know
the relationships between inmates, you know, female inmates and no
female guards and inmates. And I was like, listen, there's
certain things that go on in there and that should
that shouldn't be told exactly. I got friends that's in
prison that might be in situations where they they might
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be situated. You feel me and you I can't be
on National International. This is what happened. Yeah, this is
what happens. You know, they bring in twinkies and you
know what sneaking and you know, fish sticks like that.
Like I can't be. I can't. I'm not no, right,
you can't break down. So I was very careful about
when even the first time when I you know, when
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I went up there when I talked about But it
was a great experience though, you know exactly. I like
to see your dudes that are smart in those situations
though you're smart at the new gangster though, like be
elevating though, man, you know what I'm saying. Like the
whole thing is the inspired the hood, Like they know
what I come from. They know what it is. It
ain't like you don't know, like I still because I
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pull up, I come, you know what it is. But
the whole thing is about showing them that we could
get to a whole nother plateau. We could do other things,
like we could have that dirt on us. There's felonies
in these in these situations in the streets, but we
could rise above it. And that's that's all my music
and that's all my whole being ever been about. The
last time you was here, and I salute you on this,
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you predicted that the next time you was here, your
assault case would be dropped in your name would be clear,
and that I told you. I told you I ain't
because I didn't want to talk about it. Then about
the bitch line on me, like that line on a brother,
on a good brother, and you clean that, yeah, a
good brother. Yes. I was a very upset when when
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they called you, they always calling you, they knew they
called you. It called you up and that, and wanted
to jump all over the radio and and and spill
these lies out and stuff like that. But I listen,
I ain't lose no sleep about that because at the
end of I said, what you're calling me about that? Man? Man,
hang up, man, I'm gonna sleep because at the end
of the day, we don't come out and the wash
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donna come out. The rent So I knew I ain't ain't.
It wasn't worried about that. Does it piss you off?
Though that like when when the bad stuff happens, whether
it's true or not, media all over it. Case get dropped,
you might get one. I would have guarded. Listen that
she was in the paper four times when it first happened,
and then it was in paper maybe once or twice,
but it was on every blog, every blog when it happened.
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I was like, people call me like, yo, you did this,
and I'm like, you really think I did that? I
was more mad at that. So when it when it
when they found out that she was lying and they
put the press release out, only like two three blogs
picked it up. I was like, wow, because nobody cares
about the truth and the live nobody cares about the truth.
And that's yeah, that's man, that's the real this thing
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I heard on morning. Nobody cares about the truth when
the lives were entertaining, when the lives more entertaining, I
might I might run with that next album. Yeah yeah,
I might rum with that. A lot going on in
hip hop, man, everybody beefing, but you may know what's up. Man,
You ain't had to beef in a while. You know,
nobody want to beef for me? Man, I'm a ringer
I'll be playing rough. Nah, I mean listen, it's who
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want my beef with? Though it's no, it's no, it's
nobody to Really, I don't know. I just think I
had to spend more time getting myself together than let
me beefing with niggas about nothing about frivolous stuff like that.
But who beef and beefing is good in music though? Absolutely,
it's if you competition? Could you because we had gun
play up here, play like he don't want nobody rapping
about him because he couldn't handle it. He had to
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see you. Well, No, I can't say I couldn't handle it.
But it depends on the nature of what the situation is.
You know. Some some be disrespectful to the point where
it'll be like, you know what, let me see you.
I can't even. I just need to really, you know,
see about the situation and address it in a different way.
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But what's going on right now? It's cool, man, it's cool.
I ain't got a problem with it. It's this is
I think it's it's good for the culture because I
think where hip hop fell into this whole fake love,
everybody friendly, everybody's no competition, everybody holding each other's hand
and kissing and holding and hugging and fake acting like
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family and all that. Just it's just nasty. It's okay
not to like each other some people. If you don't,
you don't get along. I'm cool with not being cool
with everybody. I'm comfortable with with that. It's like you
build your own gang, right, I'm I'm down. I'm not
down with nobody. I'm I'm by myself and I've always
been by myself. But that's why my role been, you know,
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the way it's been, because when when things not going
good for me, I can't. I don't have another artist
to lean on. I don't have a whole situation like
it's just me. When artists come up in Brooklyn, do
you feel like, for the most part, do we reach
out to men knows in particular from Brooklyn to be like, hey,
I just want to well, well, most artists that come
from Brooklyn. Nine times out of ten, I kind of know, yeah,
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do some weight some you know some Yeah, I know them,
you know, and I always try to extend myself, you know,
um for them because like you got you got, you
got this artist that's coming up, you know too. Million
we did we didn't remix me shot the video and
all that, and that was just about me. Just they
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from Gates Avenue and I just just feeling like this
is love, man. I love to see that, you know
what I mean. And I love because nobody helped me
like that. So I wanted to be able to just
give a little bit of support, you know, you know
what I mean, because the video was only on YouTube,
so I wanted to you know what I mean, if
we shoot it again, we got a chance to hit
whirld Stone and everywhere else, you know what I mean.
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So you know it was it was all good. Does
it Does it help our hurt artists to keep it
so New York because I've seen you got this song
with Votto and Uncle Murder now yeah, but also got
a song with Kevin Gates. I've always been an artist
to work with artists outside of the thing. I'm like,
I with whoever, anybody. I don't I'm not confined to
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just New York it, don't you know what I mean?
I love New York. Yeah. We just got back from Japan,
you know, so it it's it's it's cool like I
work with whoever and if we connect and the music
is dope, then it's all good. I mustn't miss it.
They said, you got a number one dance hit with
Erica Jane. Oh yeah yeah, number one. Yeah yeah, we
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had a number one record. Yeah, like what happened? Yeah? Quiet,
this is what I'm saying. Quiet money, Quiet things going
on out here, you know what I'm saying. When you're
a hustler like you, you're into different things. You see.
It's not just putting your eggs in one basket, you know.
And and just because you may not have the number
one urban record going on, the other things you got
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going on. That was a video And when we had fun,
we went, we went to la We had a great time.
And that's a whole other genre, you know. So yeah,
shout out to Erica Jane. You know that there was
in the Scott Starch because we put that together. Um,
I was in a club what was a greenhouse and
ran in the Scotts Starch and el Varna and um
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we went yeah yeah, Scott Starch and el Vanna and
we went. He was like, yo, I got the studio,
let's go. So after the club, we went to the
studio and we wrote this song. We me and El
Varna wrote the song together Wow Crazy Yeah, which became
Erica Jane's song, which became a number one record on
the dance charts. Yeah damn. So what do you think
(20:42):
about this whole ghostwriting uh phenomenon in hip hop? Since
you mentioned writing not really a phenomenon. Can you respect
the artist if you know he got a ghostwriter? It
depends on what the situation is. If you're telling me
the word I right, rymes, I write checks, then I
understand what what's going on? Like, that's the Puff, you
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know what I mean? You we kind of always respected
Puff because we knew what it was, even straight out
of Compton. Ice Cube wrote Everybody's wraps, right, but you
andre like and we kind of love those dudes regardless.
Um um, even Kanye we always know and he's had
help writing. That's never been a secret. Right. But when
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you yea, I think it's different when you're trying to
say when you, when you, when you basically saying that
I'm that dude and this is right, I think it's
it becomes a little bit different. But I made care.
But I don't think that the the vast general public kids, No,
they don't care. You know what I'm saying not the fans, right.
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Maybe like back in you know, in the nineties, if
something like that would have came out, it would have
been like, oh my god, it was like the Holy
Grail because you're not writing. Because here's the thing, all
our greats, all all the people that we put up
on that pedal stool. Let's say, big rights hole right,
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who else? Um kiss kiss all those dudes we we like,
he's like our guards, right, I wrap guards and all
I'm wrote. So, then is it is it safe to
say that we put a dude up there that it
may be questionable? It may be questionable. I don't know.
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Now we could be a fan of the music, you
know what I mean. I love the music, But is
it is he one of the greats? I don't know, true,
I don't know. I get it. But hip hop is good.
There's a lot of you know, it's beefing going on.
It's all good. It's a little you just need a
little bit more like I like how it is now.
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It's a little scary. Just look like when a rabd
him start getting into it with me, go like that,
it was a little scary, a little scared. It's a
little my thing with that, Like last night I was
a griffin and um, and I saw something happening that
really really bothered me. They put on an um sus one,
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shout out the sus one, throw on a m drake
the drake back to back record and um, you know,
everybody was like going crazy. And then he threw on
the meat record and the crowd started boring. No, man,
if they were doing that, it was born a little
bit and I and I was like, and I asked
village a turnaround, say they born? Said yeah, they born him,
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And I grabbed the MICA said, I just you know,
I'm an I hold on this New York City. We
can't do that. You're not gonna make no street uncool.
All you streets in here, that's that's supposedly representing a
certain type of lifestyle. You're not gonna allow somebody to
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make you feel like where he represented his uncool meat
is the only urban this right now on that level
that represent the street. We can't allow people to make
us feel like he's that's not cool. But no good point.
But what about figuring himself looking cool with the twitters?
That's a battle cool and he's a man and if if,
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if he's he's if he lost the battle or whatever.
Cool you, that's a battle. But you're not gonna You're
not gonna tell me his music. It's not good you.
You're not you. You was just partying to his music
two weeks ago. Now all of us, all of a sudden,
you're born it down. I'm no, we can't do We
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can't allow that to happen, because what do you represent?
It affects me, you understand. I feel like what he
represent we need that in hip hop. If you look
at the charts, he's the only artist that sold that
amount of records and still he talk mut cracky street,
you're crazy. We need that. As a rap fan. Though,
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it's a battle, and I'm comfortable saying, Okay, Drake, situation
was well thought out. He put it together and he
did his thing. Cool. I like both of them, But
with some step that you think that me took, that
he should have executed better. I just think it should
maybe should have been a little bit more thought out.
And I think sometimes we underestimate our enemies because sometimes
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a lot is going on. You see, it's an art
to that, you know, opposition thinking steps ahead. You feel
me I try to always be a step You know,
if I do this, then what what are you doing?
You understand? So that's that's all. But I think that
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come on, here, a young artist, he could he could,
he could grow from that. We we we we get
wounded in the field, we pick ourselves up and we
keep going. We don't stop going with good music just
because of battle. They said Hove lost the NAS. That's debatable.
Thought what I said. They said Hove lost the NAS,
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that's debatable. Cool. So for the people that felt like
Hove lost, I don't think that they stopped dealing with
whole music. True. All I'm saying is I don't. I don't.
I don't like I don't like what that representation. And
I just felt like New York City, we ain't going
about to We ain't about to do that now on
my watch. I also think it's just temporary because it
just happened, and people will forget it. I think people
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want to fight temporary cool all that. What you're saying
is they still cheering for him, crazy whatever. I think
it's just temper. I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't been
in being a club and seeing dudes I know is
in the street, and this is the only street artist
rapping about streets that I know you relate to. I
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know you relate to it. I know you relate. You
relate to this more than anything else because you in there,
y'all can't you can't do that. You can't tell that
because what we got, I mean, that's selling the movie.
You're not seeing the movie. He's you know, he's the herb.
He's the face of urban music the street just not
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just you know, you got big seans, you got, you got,
you got Jake Cole's. But they represent something different. And
they and it's all good music, but they represent something different.
I'm not saying if he lost all cool whatever, but
you can't tell that that guy ain't not hell no
that I think that they might be born because they
feel like you let the streets down. It's like, if
we saw you doing something crazy, we'd be like, come on,
main no, I no, no, I no, I get it.
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I get it, I get it. I get it. Sometimes
you got to take that L and you know, move
on from. But but that's what the L is. We're
supposed to learn from. I took playing els in my life.
You know, we all make decisions sometimes that we said, damn,
shouldn't have done that. You see what I'm saying. You know,
Sharlo Man, he waking up in hotels with strange women
all the time, Like, damn, not anymore. I'm married now,
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I'm out the game, out the game. But I know
for a fact, man has definitely woken up. You got
a chill, definitely said yeah, man, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, yeah,
plenty times. I'm gonna try the end of the day.
We listen at the end of the day, it's hip hop.
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Let's keep it. Let's let's keep it hip hop. I mean,
you know, the fans is upset. Let's keeping hip hop.
It's cool side. You know, we all they all winners,
We all winners. I see on your Killed Me three.
You got like a lot of new people on that
of course. Of course Reds Dil Samrano, here you go,
shout out the tweezy you know. Um that's what it's about, though,
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like making way for that new wave. You see what
I'm saying. Like I was fortunate to work with a
lot of artists, big artists, whoever in these young boys
they coming up right now, they they got that sound
and they got that wave. But that's how you stay new,
that's how you stay you keep it alive. Like you
know what. I've been around for a few years now.
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So it's like he got that new and new wave
and it's like, Okay, cool, I like that, come on,
bring it on. Look, Doctor Drape was with nw way
and then he went and found snooping like kind of
caught him another wave and and then called him another wave.
You see what I'm saying. That's the new energy. It's
the same thing what I like about you. Man. You
came out with All the Above is a big record,
but you never went and chase that again. You know,
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I'm gonna do another All Above. Yeah, listen, it's just
about Yeah, it's about It's about position. And I wasn't
able to because I wasn't able to have it at
this time because that comes with being with a major
corporation that's gonna spend a lot of money. Because I
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believe me, I got a couple of those but if if,
if we you can't waste them though, and if you
can't just throw them away, um, if you're not, if
you don't have a big situation, then it's like what
I because I do. But so it's just like boxing.
It's like every punch is not gonna be a knockout.
You head hunting and you might lose the fight. So
what you do? You gotta some sign saying, you know what,
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whole on me, go to the body. So I'm going
to the body on these niggas. You know what I'm saying.
I had to break it back down, go to the body.
That's what cal B three is, That's what that's what
these these street records and going straight to the core,
that's what. That's what it is. And look what's happening.
And it's something that's happening for me that ain't been
happening in a long time. It's moving organically, you understand.
And it feels good. Man, I feel good? You feel good? Man? No?
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May no? Man? Are you feeling any backlash with these checks? Like?
You know, you cool? What backlash? Now? What I do? Now?
You know it might be a situation like say you
like somebody, but you don't smash their friend or other
people that they know, and right, but here's the thing
that causes some backlash. Yeah yeah, but check this out.
Don't go there with you No no, I'm gonna I'm
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gonna go there, gonna put myself in the hole, myself
jammed up, you know what I mean? My phone gonna
be clicking. Check this out. A lot of times these
people paint wrong different pictures. You see what I'm saying.
You sell dreams, May, No, I don't sell dreams. I
sell the truth. And that's why they liked me, because
I'm real. So you don't tell these girls it's like, oh,
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you know we're gonna be together when I feel that
way at that moment that I only feel that way,
won't when the club. I only feel that way at
the club, right, all right, so you do feel that
way temporarily. Let me tell you something, man, Yo, I've
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been so out of my mind at times that I remember,
do you believe in love at first sight? You said no?
Because I'm feeling something I've never felt. May don't come on, man,
talk to these girls, don't you out here? You love life?
Love life? I try listen sometimes people. I'm selling the
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truth though, because outside of that, that's because that comes
with heavy intoxication. Right, So the King of the King
of book No, only heavy intoxic. When it's heavy intoxic, right, scary. Listen,
heavy intoxication could bring about certain things, man, and you
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might say something you know what I mean, and it's okay, right,
But outside of that sober talking, no am I selling.
So when you're sober and the girl says you, you know,
last night in the club you said love at first
sight and it was this, isn't that you say, well,
I was drunk? Or do you just don't? It never
really comes back up though. It's just like, because I
think it's to sound so ridiculous, though you felt for
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that that's kind of on your and that that that
hasn't happened a lot, but that hasn't. But what I'm saying,
it's about your question. It's like sometimes people they think
more of themselves than you think of them. So I'm saying,
suff I never kissed you before, I ain't never done things,
and I've only been around you three four times in
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the whole five years we've known each other. What that
tell you? Like, like you ain't then you hate no
other situations because you because you really whatever you feel,
I don't know nothing about because if you know, it
ain't the same way because we ain't never was like that, right,
you just told on yourself. Now you would have girls
wanting to kiss now in public said kiss me and
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take a picture. No, but I'm just saying we should know.
If I ain't never kissed you, you should know like
I don't I how how much like do I have
for you? If we ain't never even kiss not one time?
What about would you go down the girl if you've
never kissed her? This is what I'm saying. If I
never did either the two, what are you talking about?
No? No No, no. If I never done either up the two,
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then how how do I? How much like do I
have for you? So you can't be out here misrepresentation
the situation act like oh yeah, me and him was
like that and we was gonna. I never did none
of these things with you, none of the no dating,
new hanging out, no, none of these things. Okay, I
just wanted to clear that up. Yeah, I just wanted
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to clear that up. KOB three is out right now.
Ko B three is out right now, harder than them
is out right now, banging p and p all that Like,
I mean, listen, man, the real one's gonna come back
from me. Absolutely slew. My dog made a man that
he my brother love
I'm real people, real celebrity join the Breakfast Yeah, I'm Charlomagne,
God Angelie, the world most Dangerous Morning to show the
Breakfast Club. Maybe had to run out to do something
and we got the King of Brooklyn here, Yeah, King
of Brooklyn. Three. Yeah, it could be deceiving. I go,
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I'll go. I'll go maybe twice a month, really to
the gym twice a month, Yeah, maybe three times. I'm not.
I'm not doing as well as I should be. If
I was going to the gym maybe three times a week,
I'll be I'll be reallyster. But I don't. I don't
go as much as I should. But when I do,
when I do go, I'll do a lot of cardio. Yeah,
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I mean too. You know. I like to try to
stay lean and burn the fat. I'm saying, you look lean.
What you changed to diet or something a little bit
like I was going I was doing. I was staying
away from the bread, staying away from all the carbs,
you know, saytoes, rice and stuff like that, and just
trying to maintained you know what I mean. Listen, these
dudes ain't better than me. And he definitely acute her.
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You know what I mean, I gotta I gotta maintained understanding.
Girls be like cute, so I gotta can't be out
y'all flat. And you know, I know I saw the
most recent rumor was you in black China? I saw
you guys posted up on the glos and everything you
saw really, Yes, I didn't know shaw that. I google
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it right now. You problem? Why do people think you
could just be friends with a woman though people don't
think I could be friends? Yeah? Why every time you
take a picture, Um, I don't think that. They don't think.
I don't think people believe that. Do you think people
believe that me and you look out relationship and we've
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never ever like me and you like this even though
you don't handle certain business for me like a got
so much girl friends forces you in the position and
be like, you know what, let me just be your brother.
There you go, that's probably what it is. That's probably
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what it is. There you go the kob three. Yeah
out right now, I like, all right, I'm gonna tell
you some of my favorite songs in there. I like
that pm P song with chings. That's right, that's that's joint.
That's it right. I think that should be a single
right there. That was you know what that was originally
what it was supposed to be. But I'm I'm gonna
go harder than them. It's been like it's been, it's
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been moving and it's crazy that you know, a lot
of times, you know, when when you see records moving,
it's all about the machine that moves it, right, But
every now and then you get you get records that
move organically, like right now, you see all these people
posting these workout videos to it. You can't buy that.
That's that's that's just the natural, you know, progression of
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a record that just you know, feels like it relates
to people. So it's it's been doing good man, and
I feel blessed. I feel good man working out and
you don't even work out there, you know, I did,
I did? You know, I did? I did? I did.
I did two workout videos or maybe three and posted
it and from there it was just crazy, you know,
with with everybody posting videos and you know, I see
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one dude, he got the ball bell, he throwing up
like this, he's singing it at the same time, you know,
and it just feels good to be able to make
music that that touches people. Man, you know what I mean,
exactly a good problems man. Oh, I'll see you on
talking about it a lot. Now you got a song
about it. Yeah, yeah and shot listen man, shout out
the Chinks um, rest of God, God, blessing man. You
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know I was, uh, I was. I was doing these
things on my on my on my instagram. You know why.
I was calling out dudes for some of the outrageous
behavior that they was having right that. And it was
funny because I would trying to make it funny purposely
because you know, it was like, these are the problems
that only you know what I'm saying, These are the
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problems that only we'll have. So I would make it funny,
like I'd be like, yo, you know, if you're a
up and then you know what I'm saying. You got
your girl and you holy hands with a girl and
just come by and just touch your girl about her
ass and something like that, and you turn around, you
don't do nothing, and then you got your problems. You
know what I'm saying. So it was funny. And Chinks
called me one day and was like, yo, I see
your instagram, man, I got something for you. And he
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came with that hook in that verse, and it was
just so crazy. Were supposed to shoot the video. Um
two days like two days before before he passed away,
we was talking about shooting videos. So I'm still gonna
do it regardless though death affect you because you dude, Yeah,
in the street, not as much, man, all I mean,
I'm I'm. I got out the streets and I'm fortunate,
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you know, I see you and I see people in Jersey,
now you know what I nah. But he wasn't doing nothing.
I understand. I understand the question though, like it affects
me because at the end of the day, we all
black males getting trying to get away from that, that life,
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and we all you know, sacrifice, you know, time with
our family and and and been through certain things in
our life and our development. And then we got here
and the whole objective was to try to get away
from that. So for that to come back and invite
you it, yo, listen. I was the first person to
post it. I was the first person to post it
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because I had, I had, I was, I was. I
did a show and um and Unicut and I was
on my way back and the homeoms called me and
was like tax Stone called me and he said that
somebody called him from the hospital. And I spoke to
Buyino and then I posted it and then Meat called
me asked me was it true? And I was like, yeo,
it's true. You know, um, that could be any one
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of us. We got kids, we got families, were all
trying to, you know, make this music work for us.
You understand, that's what the objective is. We've been in jail,
we've been we've been in the streets, we've been banging,
we've been going to war and all that or whatever
over over money and misunderstandings and stuff like that. And
we get into the game and the whole objective is
the is the is the win. It's just it's just unfortunate, man.
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And it bothers me. It bothered me a lot, because
it's like trouble. Trouble finds you like you're trying to
get you're trying to get away. You do what everything
you can to be out of it, if you know,
you know, sometimes it made me feel like because because
he was so humbled to me, you know, and and
and and watching him and I remember him from back
when stack Bundle days and stuff like that, and it
was like it's just like, damn, do it paid? Do you?
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Like this is why you gotta punish all the time,
Like you know what I'm saying, like, do it? Do
it pay? To be a good Sometimes you question like
you should be the coolest. It just come blow your
head off. Like so it's sometimes it plays with your
mind and it's like, you know, but you know what,
we ain't gonna go to that negative route. We're gonna
stay We're gonna stay on the same path. We're gonna
do what we're supposed to do. And you know what
I mean, it's just unfortunate, man. And it touched me
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because I look at my son. He twenty years old,
and I can't even think of a day where he
could be like, damn, my father ain't come home no more.
Absolutely well. I mean I always look at you as
a business person and I as well, you know, as
an artist. So let's talk about some other things that
you have going on. I know, King of Brooklyn three, Yeah,
is that right now? Right now? And I gave it
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for free again, I did it for free. Did it
for free this midnight? Yeah, midnights for free. Let the
people have because I want the energy. It sounds like
a real album, not just the free They put my
heart and soul into it. That's what I want. I
want to such people's soul. But you know, I'll be
all doing you know, different things. You know, we're hustling.
You know, I tell you all my business. Right, you're
(07:35):
doing television and you finally go do the TV thing. Man, No,
not like you think, not like you think. Um, I
will share this with y'all because you know me, I
like I like to be unpredictable, you know what I mean.
I feel like I'm the underdog and I feel like
people they look at me one way, they don't really
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understand me. So I like to do things and surprise people.
But I'm actually I actually developed developed the show. I
actually developed the show. I wrote, I wrote, I wrote
a few things out. You know, I got a couple
of things drafted, and I went and you know, shout
out to Isha Entertainment, Michael Holshon, shout out to Melissa Cooper.
We partnered it up on the show. I don't really
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want to get a shot. I don't really want to
not it's not about me. Why didn't you do a
show about you? Because that wasn't the words that was
in the works. But yeah, but I didn't. I just
felt like I didn't want to show because you filmed
some of that. Yeah, yeah we did. We did you
know it was with VH one. Um, I just felt
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like I didn't want to show that was that that
really just catered to my love life. I felt like
I was more, it was more parts to me than
just you know, my love life and stuff like that.
And then I guess I get spooked. I look at
these shows, I'd be like, damn. Part of being an
artist is some of the mystique that you don't know
about everything. And I look at some of these it
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was in me like, damn, I liked you, man I
didn't know you was a lame like this. Damn. I
just like how Mano used a slick word like love life.
Yeah forever. I just want to say. And the first
thing I thought, man, is your love life is fascinating.
If you want to call life, why would you say
that because it is fascinating? How is that you're gonna
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put because you're gonna you're gonna put a bad, bad name.
I feel like it is. Um, I'm trying to think
how can I say felt us? I feel like Mano
love life at certain points wants to be in love,
but then I felt at certain times you don't, and
I just don't. I feel like you might get with
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a good girl and whatever, but you just can't. The
dots aren't connecting properly, and women fall in love with
Mano do they? I know one female in particular. You go, oh,
she was in the hospital. That's where I was should be. No,
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you don't even know that I know this girl. And well, anyway,
she she was upset because I guess you stopped messing
with her. She said the dud was so good. She
was all broken up over it is that so got
a routine going here that reads really really so. But
what would make you cut a girl off? I'm I'm
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I'm a simple guy. Man like I'm I'm gonna fall
out the chair. I'm an easy going dude, you know,
like you know, they think I'm cute, they say I'm handsome,
you feel me, they like my ways. But listen, I
stopped talking to a girl before for not voting. You
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know it's good as a mother, ladies, make sure you
get out here. Man, you would rather she vote? It
don't matter who she votes for. It was something that
she said though that Obama. It was Obama re election
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don't count and were in somehow we were talking about Obama.
You know, I'll be watching the news. Obama came up
and I was like, yo, you voted. She was like,
voting for what They're gonna kill him anyway, I said, Yo, man,
I ain't never spoke to that girl again. No, I'm
like that too. I don't like that kind of ignorant.
That's ignorant though, Like at the end of the day,
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like listen, if we can't, you know, build and grow
and grow with each other and learn from each other,
and then it just just a waste of time. So after,
after you come away from the sex, then what is
it really about that. I used to date this girl
who she had an inverted nipple and I asked her
what is that? And she was like, asked the nipple.
All the guys like the suck on. I'm like, oh,
you gotta go, yeah, get some deformities out there situations.
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But he just didn't want thinking another man sucking on
that nipples disgusting, disgusting. Yeah, it's just stupid to say though,
Like for real, Like, we gotta be able to build.
We gotta be able to grow, you know what I
mean At the end of the day, when we after
the club, after the radio, after we're on the road,
after the shows, after the whole everything that's going on,
and we're just chilling in the crib, I need what's
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your character? Like, we need to be able to talk.
Can we build? Can we talk outside of what's going
on in the club? Can we talk outside of music?
I can? And if we if I'm with a female
that that's just talking ignorant. It's crazy. It's like it's
a turn off for me. Now. I also saw you
this really made me laugh on CNN. Yeah, as a
(12:44):
as a as a a token inmate, yeah, correspondent in
this jail that. Yeah, they called me up the CNN
and I thought, I was like, you know, what cool
I do. I'll do it. You know, it's the first time.
But they kept calling me to come back, and I
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was like, what they want to talk about? They want
to know, you know, you know, they want to know
the relationships between inmates, you know, female inmates and no
female guards and inmates. And I was like, listen, there's
certain things that go on in there and that should
that shouldn't be told exactly. I got friends that's in
prison that might be in situations where they they might
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be situated. You feel me and you I can't be
on National International. This is what happened. Yeah, this is
what happens. You know, they bring in twinkies and you
know what sneaking and you know, fish sticks like that.
Like I can't be. I can't. I'm not no, right,
you can't break down. So I was very careful about
when even the first time when I you know, when
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I went up there when I talked about But it
was a great experience though, you know exactly. I like
to see your dudes that are smart in those situations
though you're smart at the new gangster though, like be
elevating though, man, you know what I'm saying. Like the
whole thing is the inspired the hood, Like they know
what I come from. They know what it is. It
ain't like you don't know, like I still because I
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pull up, I come, you know what it is. But
the whole thing is about showing them that we could
get to a whole nother plateau. We could do other things,
like we could have that dirt on us. There's felonies
in these in these situations in the streets, but we
could rise above it. And that's that's all my music
and that's all my whole being ever been about. The
last time you was here, and I salute you on this,
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you predicted that the next time you was here, your
assault case would be dropped in your name would be clear,
and that I told you. I told you I ain't
because I didn't want to talk about it. Then about
the bitch line on me, like that line on a brother,
on a good brother, and you clean that, yeah, a
good brother. Yes. I was a very upset when when
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they called you, they always calling you, they knew they
called you. It called you up and that, and wanted
to jump all over the radio and and and spill
these lies out and stuff like that. But I listen,
I ain't lose no sleep about that because at the
end of I said, what you're calling me about that? Man? Man,
hang up, man, I'm gonna sleep because at the end
of the day, we don't come out and the wash
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donna come out. The rent So I knew I ain't ain't.
It wasn't worried about that. Does it piss you off?
Though that like when when the bad stuff happens, whether
it's true or not, media all over it. Case get dropped,
you might get one. I would have guarded. Listen that
she was in the paper four times when it first happened,
and then it was in paper maybe once or twice,
but it was on every blog, every blog when it happened.
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I was like, people call me like, yo, you did this,
and I'm like, you really think I did that? I
was more mad at that. So when it when it
when they found out that she was lying and they
put the press release out, only like two three blogs
picked it up. I was like, wow, because nobody cares
about the truth and the live nobody cares about the truth.
And that's yeah, that's man, that's the real this thing
(16:00):
I heard on morning. Nobody cares about the truth when
the lives were entertaining, when the lives more entertaining, I
might I might run with that next album. Yeah yeah,
I might rum with that. A lot going on in
hip hop, man, everybody beefing, but you may know what's up. Man,
You ain't had to beef in a while. You know,
nobody want to beef for me? Man, I'm a ringer
I'll be playing rough. Nah, I mean listen, it's who
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want my beef with? Though it's no, it's no, it's
nobody to Really, I don't know. I just think I
had to spend more time getting myself together than let
me beefing with niggas about nothing about frivolous stuff like that.
But who beef and beefing is good in music though? Absolutely,
it's if you competition? Could you because we had gun
play up here, play like he don't want nobody rapping
about him because he couldn't handle it. He had to
(16:43):
see you. Well, No, I can't say I couldn't handle it.
But it depends on the nature of what the situation is.
You know. Some some be disrespectful to the point where
it'll be like, you know what, let me see you.
I can't even. I just need to really, you know,
see about the situation and address it in a different way.
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But what's going on right now? It's cool, man, it's cool.
I ain't got a problem with it. It's this is
I think it's it's good for the culture because I
think where hip hop fell into this whole fake love,
everybody friendly, everybody's no competition, everybody holding each other's hand
and kissing and holding and hugging and fake acting like
(17:26):
family and all that. Just it's just nasty. It's okay
not to like each other some people. If you don't,
you don't get along. I'm cool with not being cool
with everybody. I'm comfortable with with that. It's like you
build your own gang, right, I'm I'm down. I'm not
down with nobody. I'm I'm by myself and I've always
been by myself. But that's why my role been, you know,
(17:47):
the way it's been, because when when things not going
good for me, I can't. I don't have another artist
to lean on. I don't have a whole situation like
it's just me. When artists come up in Brooklyn, do
you feel like, for the most part, do we reach
out to men knows in particular from Brooklyn to be like, hey,
I just want to well, well, most artists that come
from Brooklyn. Nine times out of ten, I kind of know, yeah,
(18:13):
do some weight some you know some Yeah, I know them,
you know, and I always try to extend myself, you know,
um for them because like you got you got, you
got this artist that's coming up, you know too. Million
we did we didn't remix me shot the video and
all that, and that was just about me. Just they
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from Gates Avenue and I just just feeling like this
is love, man. I love to see that, you know
what I mean. And I love because nobody helped me
like that. So I wanted to be able to just
give a little bit of support, you know, you know
what I mean, because the video was only on YouTube,
so I wanted to you know what I mean, if
we shoot it again, we got a chance to hit
whirld Stone and everywhere else, you know what I mean.
(18:57):
So you know it was it was all good. Does
it Does it help our hurt artists to keep it
so New York because I've seen you got this song
with Votto and Uncle Murder now yeah, but also got
a song with Kevin Gates. I've always been an artist
to work with artists outside of the thing. I'm like,
I with whoever, anybody. I don't I'm not confined to
(19:17):
just New York it, don't you know what I mean?
I love New York. Yeah. We just got back from Japan,
you know, so it it's it's it's cool like I
work with whoever and if we connect and the music
is dope, then it's all good. I mustn't miss it.
They said, you got a number one dance hit with
Erica Jane. Oh yeah yeah, number one. Yeah yeah, we
(19:37):
had a number one record. Yeah, like what happened? Yeah? Quiet,
this is what I'm saying. Quiet money, Quiet things going
on out here, you know what I'm saying. When you're
a hustler like you, you're into different things. You see.
It's not just putting your eggs in one basket, you know.
And and just because you may not have the number
one urban record going on, the other things you got
(19:58):
going on. That was a video And when we had fun,
we went, we went to la We had a great time.
And that's a whole other genre, you know. So yeah,
shout out to Erica Jane. You know that there was
in the Scott Starch because we put that together. Um,
I was in a club what was a greenhouse and
ran in the Scotts Starch and el Varna and um
(20:20):
we went yeah yeah, Scott Starch and el Vanna and
we went. He was like, yo, I got the studio,
let's go. So after the club, we went to the
studio and we wrote this song. We me and El
Varna wrote the song together Wow Crazy Yeah, which became
Erica Jane's song, which became a number one record on
the dance charts. Yeah damn. So what do you think
(20:42):
about this whole ghostwriting uh phenomenon in hip hop? Since
you mentioned writing not really a phenomenon. Can you respect
the artist if you know he got a ghostwriter? It
depends on what the situation is. If you're telling me
the word I right, rymes, I write checks, then I
understand what what's going on? Like, that's the Puff, you
(21:04):
know what I mean? You we kind of always respected
Puff because we knew what it was, even straight out
of Compton. Ice Cube wrote Everybody's wraps, right, but you
andre like and we kind of love those dudes regardless.
Um um, even Kanye we always know and he's had
help writing. That's never been a secret. Right. But when
(21:25):
you yea, I think it's different when you're trying to
say when you, when you, when you basically saying that
I'm that dude and this is right, I think it's
it becomes a little bit different. But I made care.
But I don't think that the the vast general public kids, No,
they don't care. You know what I'm saying not the fans, right.
(21:46):
Maybe like back in you know, in the nineties, if
something like that would have came out, it would have
been like, oh my god, it was like the Holy
Grail because you're not writing. Because here's the thing, all
our greats, all all the people that we put up
on that pedal stool. Let's say, big rights hole right,
(22:06):
who else? Um kiss kiss all those dudes we we like,
he's like our guards, right, I wrap guards and all
I'm wrote. So, then is it is it safe to
say that we put a dude up there that it
may be questionable? It may be questionable. I don't know.
(22:26):
Now we could be a fan of the music, you
know what I mean. I love the music, But is
it is he one of the greats? I don't know, true,
I don't know. I get it. But hip hop is good.
There's a lot of you know, it's beefing going on.
It's all good. It's a little you just need a
little bit more like I like how it is now.
(22:47):
It's a little scary. Just look like when a rabd
him start getting into it with me, go like that,
it was a little scary, a little scared. It's a
little my thing with that, Like last night I was
a griffin and um, and I saw something happening that
really really bothered me. They put on an um sus one,
(23:09):
shout out the sus one, throw on a m drake
the drake back to back record and um, you know,
everybody was like going crazy. And then he threw on
the meat record and the crowd started boring. No, man,
if they were doing that, it was born a little
bit and I and I was like, and I asked
village a turnaround, say they born? Said yeah, they born him,
(23:32):
And I grabbed the MICA said, I just you know,
I'm an I hold on this New York City. We
can't do that. You're not gonna make no street uncool.
All you streets in here, that's that's supposedly representing a
certain type of lifestyle. You're not gonna allow somebody to
(23:53):
make you feel like where he represented his uncool meat
is the only urban this right now on that level
that represent the street. We can't allow people to make
us feel like he's that's not cool. But no good point.
But what about figuring himself looking cool with the twitters?
That's a battle cool and he's a man and if if,
(24:18):
if he's he's if he lost the battle or whatever.
Cool you, that's a battle. But you're not gonna You're
not gonna tell me his music. It's not good you.
You're not you. You was just partying to his music
two weeks ago. Now all of us, all of a sudden,
you're born it down. I'm no, we can't do We
(24:41):
can't allow that to happen, because what do you represent?
It affects me, you understand. I feel like what he
represent we need that in hip hop. If you look
at the charts, he's the only artist that sold that
amount of records and still he talk mut cracky street,
you're crazy. We need that. As a rap fan. Though,
(25:03):
it's a battle, and I'm comfortable saying, Okay, Drake, situation
was well thought out. He put it together and he
did his thing. Cool. I like both of them, But
with some step that you think that me took, that
he should have executed better. I just think it should
maybe should have been a little bit more thought out.
And I think sometimes we underestimate our enemies because sometimes
(25:26):
a lot is going on. You see, it's an art
to that, you know, opposition thinking steps ahead. You feel
me I try to always be a step You know,
if I do this, then what what are you doing?
You understand? So that's that's all. But I think that
(25:46):
come on, here, a young artist, he could he could,
he could grow from that. We we we we get
wounded in the field, we pick ourselves up and we
keep going. We don't stop going with good music just
because of battle. They said Hove lost the NAS. That's debatable.
Thought what I said. They said Hove lost the NAS,
(26:09):
that's debatable. Cool. So for the people that felt like
Hove lost, I don't think that they stopped dealing with
whole music. True. All I'm saying is I don't. I don't.
I don't like I don't like what that representation. And
I just felt like New York City, we ain't going
about to We ain't about to do that now on
my watch. I also think it's just temporary because it
just happened, and people will forget it. I think people
(26:30):
want to fight temporary cool all that. What you're saying
is they still cheering for him, crazy whatever. I think
it's just temper. I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't been
in being a club and seeing dudes I know is
in the street, and this is the only street artist
rapping about streets that I know you relate to. I
(26:52):
know you relate to it. I know you relate. You
relate to this more than anything else because you in there,
y'all can't you can't do that. You can't tell that
because what we got, I mean, that's selling the movie.
You're not seeing the movie. He's you know, he's the herb.
He's the face of urban music the street just not
(27:16):
just you know, you got big seans, you got, you got,
you got Jake Cole's. But they represent something different. And
they and it's all good music, but they represent something different.
I'm not saying if he lost all cool whatever, but
you can't tell that that guy ain't not hell no
that I think that they might be born because they
feel like you let the streets down. It's like, if
we saw you doing something crazy, we'd be like, come on,
main no, I no, no, I no, I get it.
(27:36):
I get it, I get it. I get it. Sometimes
you got to take that L and you know, move
on from. But but that's what the L is. We're
supposed to learn from. I took playing els in my life.
You know, we all make decisions sometimes that we said, damn,
shouldn't have done that. You see what I'm saying. You know,
Sharlo Man, he waking up in hotels with strange women
all the time, Like, damn, not anymore. I'm married now,
(27:58):
I'm out the game, out the game. But I know
for a fact, man has definitely woken up. You got
a chill, definitely said yeah, man, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, yeah,
plenty times. I'm gonna try the end of the day.
We listen at the end of the day, it's hip hop.
(28:20):
Let's keep it. Let's let's keep it hip hop. I mean,
you know, the fans is upset. Let's keeping hip hop.
It's cool side. You know, we all they all winners,
We all winners. I see on your Killed Me three.
You got like a lot of new people on that
of course. Of course Reds Dil Samrano, here you go,
shout out the tweezy you know. Um that's what it's about, though,
(28:42):
like making way for that new wave. You see what
I'm saying. Like I was fortunate to work with a
lot of artists, big artists, whoever in these young boys
they coming up right now, they they got that sound
and they got that wave. But that's how you stay new,
that's how you stay you keep it alive. Like you
know what. I've been around for a few years now.
(29:04):
So it's like he got that new and new wave
and it's like, Okay, cool, I like that, come on,
bring it on. Look, Doctor Drape was with nw way
and then he went and found snooping like kind of
caught him another wave and and then called him another wave.
You see what I'm saying. That's the new energy. It's
the same thing what I like about you. Man. You
came out with All the Above is a big record,
but you never went and chase that again. You know,
(29:25):
I'm gonna do another All Above. Yeah, listen, it's just
about Yeah, it's about It's about position. And I wasn't
able to because I wasn't able to have it at
this time because that comes with being with a major
corporation that's gonna spend a lot of money. Because I
(29:47):
believe me, I got a couple of those but if if,
if we you can't waste them though, and if you
can't just throw them away, um, if you're not, if
you don't have a big situation, then it's like what
I because I do. But so it's just like boxing.
It's like every punch is not gonna be a knockout.
You head hunting and you might lose the fight. So
what you do? You gotta some sign saying, you know what,
(30:08):
whole on me, go to the body. So I'm going
to the body on these niggas. You know what I'm saying.
I had to break it back down, go to the body.
That's what cal B three is, That's what that's what
these these street records and going straight to the core,
that's what. That's what it is. And look what's happening.
And it's something that's happening for me that ain't been
happening in a long time. It's moving organically, you understand.
And it feels good. Man, I feel good? You feel good? Man? No?
(30:33):
May no? Man? Are you feeling any backlash with these checks? Like?
You know, you cool? What backlash? Now? What I do? Now?
You know it might be a situation like say you
like somebody, but you don't smash their friend or other
people that they know, and right, but here's the thing
that causes some backlash. Yeah yeah, but check this out.
Don't go there with you No no, I'm gonna I'm
(30:53):
gonna go there, gonna put myself in the hole, myself
jammed up, you know what I mean? My phone gonna
be clicking. Check this out. A lot of times these
people paint wrong different pictures. You see what I'm saying.
You sell dreams, May, No, I don't sell dreams. I
sell the truth. And that's why they liked me, because
I'm real. So you don't tell these girls it's like, oh,
(31:15):
you know we're gonna be together when I feel that
way at that moment that I only feel that way,
won't when the club. I only feel that way at
the club, right, all right, so you do feel that
way temporarily. Let me tell you something, man, Yo, I've
(31:37):
been so out of my mind at times that I remember,
do you believe in love at first sight? You said no?
Because I'm feeling something I've never felt. May don't come on, man,
talk to these girls, don't you out here? You love life?
Love life? I try listen sometimes people. I'm selling the
(32:06):
truth though, because outside of that, that's because that comes
with heavy intoxication. Right, So the King of the King
of book No, only heavy intoxic. When it's heavy intoxic, right, scary. Listen,
heavy intoxication could bring about certain things, man, and you
(32:28):
might say something you know what I mean, and it's okay, right,
But outside of that sober talking, no am I selling.
So when you're sober and the girl says you, you know,
last night in the club you said love at first
sight and it was this, isn't that you say, well,
I was drunk? Or do you just don't? It never
really comes back up though. It's just like, because I
think it's to sound so ridiculous, though you felt for
(32:49):
that that's kind of on your and that that that
hasn't happened a lot, but that hasn't. But what I'm saying,
it's about your question. It's like sometimes people they think
more of themselves than you think of them. So I'm saying,
suff I never kissed you before, I ain't never done things,
and I've only been around you three four times in
(33:11):
the whole five years we've known each other. What that
tell you? Like, like you ain't then you hate no
other situations because you because you really whatever you feel,
I don't know nothing about because if you know, it
ain't the same way because we ain't never was like that, right,
you just told on yourself. Now you would have girls
wanting to kiss now in public said kiss me and
(33:37):
take a picture. No, but I'm just saying we should know.
If I ain't never kissed you, you should know like
I don't I how how much like do I have
for you? If we ain't never even kiss not one time?
What about would you go down the girl if you've
never kissed her? This is what I'm saying. If I
never did either the two, what are you talking about?
No? No No, no. If I never done either up the two,
(34:01):
then how how do I? How much like do I
have for you? So you can't be out here misrepresentation
the situation act like oh yeah, me and him was
like that and we was gonna. I never did none
of these things with you, none of the no dating,
new hanging out, no, none of these things. Okay, I
just wanted to clear that up. Yeah, I just wanted
(34:21):
to clear that up. KOB three is out right now.
Ko B three is out right now, harder than them
is out right now, banging p and p all that Like,
I mean, listen, man, the real one's gonna come back
from me. Absolutely slew. My dog made a man that
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