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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Breakfast Club is old. We got the breakfast Club Envy
and Charlomagne the voice of the culture.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
He then i'nna come here when this thing.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
See y'all different, y'all the coach, it's different. You know
what I'm saying. Like, y'all know what y'all talk about.
This is probably becoming the most prominent form for here, probably.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Be here next to all of you guys. It's really
put it.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Put it in perspective to the breakfast club. Bitch, wake up.
This is your time to get it off your chest.
I got an indoor pool pool. We want to hear
from you on the breakfast club.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Get on the phone right now here, tell you what it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Is we live. Hello. Who's this yo? This is Chris, Chris,
what up? Get it off your chest? Hey, man, I
want to say, Man I on party, y'all man DJ
envied Charlomad solo.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Man, I've been reading your book. Boy, got me your book.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
Man, I've been taking that out and it's been real
helpful for me.
Speaker 7 (00:53):
Man.
Speaker 8 (00:53):
Like what y'all go?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Thank you King? Which book you got you black privilege
and shook one old them? Matter of fact, you got
me one for father's there and one for all the
Christmas last year.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Man, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Hello, what is this?
Speaker 8 (01:10):
I don't want to say my name?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Okay, well what's something on the radio? Nobody can see you.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
But you know, may people be listening.
Speaker 9 (01:18):
But I have a question because I just recently got
broken up. But great, I'm in a lesbian relationship. And
I went out of town not so long ago.
Speaker 8 (01:26):
And I, you know, I have a business.
Speaker 9 (01:28):
So I was networking and I was speaking to a
mail about my business and who worked at the bar
that I was doing my homework aap and so I
came back home and he sent me a message was like, hey.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
How you doing.
Speaker 8 (01:40):
How's your family to start?
Speaker 9 (01:41):
Get backstafe?
Speaker 8 (01:42):
And my girlfriend has a problem with it, and so
she broke up with me. Like she's like, I'm a lesbian,
I don't deal with mails, and I'm just like I
do business. I network with males and females. I just
wanted to like, is that wrong?
Speaker 10 (01:54):
I don't think that's wrong at all.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I mean, if there was, even if it was another woman,
I mean, as long as y'all not flirting in this business,
I don't see a problem with it.
Speaker 10 (02:01):
You weren't hiding it from your.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Girl, So it's not like you were trying to be
deceptive or sneaking around. Now I don't see a problem
with it. Yeah, but those you know, she she probably upset.
She probably upset because you're talking to somebody who you know,
got something that she could never have, which is a penis.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know.
Speaker 9 (02:16):
And I feel like that when the insecurity only comes
out with males because I speak to females in the
same way and it's usually about my business as I
do with males. But it's just males, she always has
a problem. And I'm like, it makes me feel like, Okay,
you're like immaturely dating, you don't know how to date.
But I'm like, I don't know, like can have friends
to man that his wife have.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know, your circumstances are totally different. Now I have
to ask you a question. Did you get penis before
you became a lesbian?
Speaker 10 (02:43):
Good question?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Did you like, yes, yes, that's what it is.
Speaker 10 (02:47):
The problem back to penis. She don't want you to realize.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
But what does that have to do with me?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
That's her in security?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Like, is that something that I'm supposed to adjust?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It is? But I will say this, I will say,
try to have a conversation and bring her in on
part of the conversation, you asked if if my wife
has male friends, we have friends.
Speaker 11 (03:06):
She doesn't have friends that I don't know about. She
doesn't have friends, and she speaks to that I don't know.
We all have friends, just like I have female friends,
but my wife knows them.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (03:15):
But it means by though, so I'm not by shut up.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Many we try.
Speaker 11 (03:22):
To be serious, but I would give a conversation to
try to make it feel comfortable as possible. Obviously she
feels a little uncomfortable because she feels like you're gonna
get back to the penis.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
But let her know that you don't want any penis.
And it's all box for you.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
Curious, okay, all right, and go and go.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And go box them out, saying go box them out? Face?
Speaker 10 (03:44):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Man?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You heard what she said? She said? You was very
like skinned to say that. I concur Hello, who's this.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Hell?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You said?
Speaker 10 (03:53):
A little off phone?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You got bluetooth in or your head piece? He hear me?
I can hear you perfectly.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Whatever, All right, what's up?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Man?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Calling to get off my dad? Brother, get off my chest? Yeah. No,
me and my girl. We finally feeling good today. Me
and my girl we offer seven month dry fell man
like you know, so we finally have you know, inter
course again and I feel good about it.
Speaker 10 (04:17):
Seven months? Why so long?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Huh said? Why so long?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I kind of you know, I kind of messed up
with you know, I was cheating. I was messing up
a little bit cheating. Not cheating, you know, not not
physically cheating, probably emotionally cheating. So uh, yeah, she finally
you know, so it was a while she wasn't you know,
feeling me.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Do you know, y'all do no? Humans, women especially are
more emotional than physical, so emotionally cheating and emotionally hurting
her can probably cause her to dry up more so
than the physical.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
You know what I mean? You know, I realized that.
Speaker 10 (04:55):
Yes, I'm glad you y'all are back.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Brother, Thank you man, have a good one you suit jam.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The Breakfast Club is your time to get it off
your chest, way up, whether you're man or pleas tith
to get up and get something call up now eight
hundred five eight five one o five one. We want
to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 12 (05:18):
Hello, who's this, Hey, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
How you doing this is Ronnie called out a.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Bad rooms Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Get it up your chest, man.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I just wanted to call in, man, because I'm so excited.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
For you guys.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Man.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I love being y'all on the radio. Man, y'all been
doing a great job.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Man, y'all sound.
Speaker 12 (05:33):
Really really even news man this time around.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
So it's great to have you guys here in bad rude.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm in here. I'm in here burning my Pola santo
right now. The energy is great. I got my candles lit.
Me and him be just being here living our best lives. Man,
you enjoy having a good time. That's that's without and
that that is a great compliment because we thoroughly do
enjoy coming in this studio absolutely every day in.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
That man, go hear you, guys man.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And that has not always been the but nowadays.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Hello this Hey, what's up?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Guys? This is your favorite white listener, Tim FM Toledo.
Speaker 10 (06:11):
Get it off your chest?
Speaker 12 (06:12):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Guys?
Speaker 12 (06:13):
I love you guys.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Man.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So I've been on a team the last couple of
times I got through about toxic people, and lately it's
been I find it's more family usually than it is
than anybody. And so I found I'm forty five and
I think a lot of people can relate Rocker life.
We you know, we main need to lean on people
for help. And it might be in a rough time.
(06:36):
It might be a house payment, it might be they
order you a pizza when you down on your luck,
and then you find out these people get mad at you.
You know, it could be a six months down the road,
two years down the look, you know, they're on your
Facebook because they're mad, and you find out that you
owe them a million dollars all of a sudden, Well
they didn't order you a pizza. They you know, they
(06:58):
act like they be buying food for the last three years.
You know, the story justn't completely blown out of contact
because they're mad.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That's why sometimes you just got to give people thoughts
and press absolutely not you.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Know what, And I tried to you know what, I
I just put this real quick. I put this on
my bio. I heard it a new Facebook, and I'm
adding friends that I would try to go to their
funeral or if they would come to mind, because otherwise.
Speaker 12 (07:21):
It's just disgrace.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
School people got two thousand friends and they don't even
know half of them. I put this in my bio.
When I need help, give me a hug, not money.
That way, you're mad. All I owe you is a hug.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But I will I will say this.
Speaker 11 (07:34):
You know, in life, and I think Charlamagne and I
think even you can will say this, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Always highs and lows, right. You always have a good
part of your life with everything is going great, but
it could be a left turn and sometimes you need help.
Speaker 11 (07:43):
And it doesn't have to be financial. It could be
just a good you know, a hug, or a good
hold or good conversation. And those are the people I
keep around me. And whether they family or friends, it's
all the same. If you can't provide me that and
I can't provide you that, then we don't need to
be around each other. But I want to be around
people that's going to hold hold each other up and
make sure we all all right.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I think the biggest problem. I think the biggest problem
is that you know your family, and you know and
your close friends be having a sense of entitlement. That's true,
you know what I'm saying, And when they want, when
they want more, they act like you never did anything
for them, you know what I'm saying. So he could
be a pizza or you know, our money when they
want more. Anything you ever did will never be enough
(08:22):
to act like you never did anything correct, you know,
And I can't. I don't deal with entitled people. Gets
the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
That's hilarious is our guest.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
So so, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 10 (08:34):
Stephanie Mills, good morning, Miss Mills.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
Good morning, good morning. Oh yeah, eyes, I'm fine. Don't
you think he has bamby beautiful eyes.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Beautiful?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's my baby.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Yeah. I love Stephanie Mills. You know that we have
a love affair. He's like my son. He could be
my son.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That's right, literally son. Now you got a lot going on,
Miss Mills. You got your PBS special.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I have a lot going on the Broadway, Babe.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Pride.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
The movie.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Pride executive produced the TDJ Derek Williams, and they just
offered me the part. Derek called me and said, do
you want to do this role?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And sent me the script and I said yes, And
You're torn. I'm torn, Wow, And I'm getting ready this possibility.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
I'm getting ready to come back to Broadway to do.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
My own shot?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
What based on your life?
Speaker 7 (09:28):
No not, I don't want to do anything based on
my life, but just songs and where I've come from
and all of that.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Wow, Wow, how are you managing everything that you're doing
at the moment?
Speaker 7 (09:38):
I have a great manager I call amp Yum Yums.
He's just he's a yummy manager. You know how when
you find somebody that just you can trust.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And believes in you.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Absolutely, so pretty, thank you so much. So, how does
it feel to still be so legendary? Like forty years later?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Relevant?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
You like?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Relevant? Relevant? Even is like just still like it's people
still walking around singing your songs. He can't sing, but
he was literally walking around still just sing your songs
before you even said yeah, I come up there with
y'all and he was still walking around singing, Like how
does how does that feel?
Speaker 7 (10:15):
It's a blessing. I feel really blessed because I didn't
have the machinery behind me.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Okay you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
So for me to still be here doing it and
I'm doing it on my own terms because I kind
of backed away from the industry because it became too
much for me to still do it and then find
someone like Amp who believed in me and allows me
to be who I am, because you know, in this
business they try to change you to meet a certain criteria.
And I never fit into that criteria and didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And I love that. I love that, And and so
for the Rolling Stones magazine, greatest of all time? Yeah,
the greatest one of things of all time? How do
you feel being left out of that? I don't feel anything.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
I don't pay any attention to that. That's something behind
a desk who doesn't really know what they're talking enough.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
How could you leave Celine Dion off? How could you?
It's a great you know, how could you?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I don't pay attention to that.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
I don't pay attention to awards and all that, even
though I have awards of everything that of musically.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
What means matters to me, and which has kept me
with my sold out shows that I'm proud of is
my people coming to see me and paying their hard
earned money.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
That's what keeps me going.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, igue with you with the Rolling Stone. Clearly those
people are culturally coolest, you know what I mean? Leaving
people like you, Selina.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
But see, I was never played on vh one or MTV,
none of my videos because they always said I was
too urban and I only had a pop record with
Never Knew Love. That's the only one they allowed to
cross over.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I wonder you said something earlier. You said that you
never had the machine behind you. And it's interesting because
you can see how that might still impact you now
when it comes to these lists.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Right exactly when you think about it, like back in
the day when MTV, I my MTV and they didn't
want to play Michael. You know, it was a president
of the company that said, if you don't play him,
I'm going to expose that you're racist. And I don't
think really anything has changed. I think you have to
have And back then I didn't have that kind of
person that would go on the front line for me.
But Michael did, and I'm glad he did because just
(12:18):
imagine you not hearing Thriller the way it was, or
being exposed to all those wonderful videos that he did.
And they didn't acknowledge his forty at the anniversary of
Thriller or anything at the Grammys or American Music a BOYD.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
How did they pick and choose who got the machine
back then though, because I feel like back then you
really needed talent to get a deal.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
You really needed talent to get a deal. That's why
my audience is predominantly black, because Beet and all those
black outlets played my videos, you know, and black radio
supported me so much. So that's why I'm able to survive.
That's why I don't understand why a lot of black
artists like don't go back to the black publications and
(13:01):
things like that that made them, well, I know, white,
I colder always why, you know, I don't understand that.
I never understand why they think vanilla ice cream is
colder than chocolate.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I think it's because they want that mass look, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But you could have that. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
I went to Oh What's the Girls group? They came
to Charlotte and they sold out the arena. There was
nothing there but black people escape.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yes, so what's wrong with the black dollar? I definitely
get what you're saying that. My generation they also feel
like because I don't, although I'm a part of them,
they felt that's some type of advanced validation. When you
get like then they call it the crossover. It's like,
you know, and people, I did a show for Fox,
(13:49):
Sitcom on Fox. People around ye shout to the show
real and I was on it with Simbad he played
It was amazing, right, I love him too, Like the
show people was telling me because people was only used
to seeing me on like wild'n Out and all that
type of stuff, you know, more production with black people.
And then they were like, oh, that's your crossover. Fox
(14:11):
is your crossover. It's like you really made it. Now,
I really made it because I'm on Fox, you know,
working around all these white people. No, I've been made
it and it's still I still ain't make it. That's
that sitcom wasn't like the cream of the crop for
me yet. I'm still not where I want to be
in terms of you know, just where I'm going, right,
But I didn't consider that as my crossover. That's another
(14:33):
show that I'm on. That's another stepping stone, right, Like
you know, so I never so I get exactly what
you're saying.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
And that's what we think. We think when we cross
over to that pop we've made it. Why do we
want to be so accepted? And I never really want
I just wanted to be accepted. I wasn't good at smoothing,
you know, Charla Mane, I wasn't good at doing that,
and I didn't want to go to the parties and
have to meet this one. And I didn't like auditioning.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, I know that's Do you like it? No?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
I know they look at you like you're crazy, but
they make it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
So hard for you.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I won't do it, or don't act like.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
We got more with Stephanie Mills when we come back,
don't move.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, the breakfast Club. Let's
get back into it.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 10 (15:19):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I got a question Michael too, because I want to
know I will answer. Okay, good. So it's the true
that you and Michael I called it daty?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
How was that?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It was wonderful.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Michael was gentle, he was kind, very determined, knew where
he wanted to go, and we just had fun.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Used to come to the Wiz all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So was he a smooth criminal? It was a smooth criminal.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
I loved him that afro and chocolate.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, So why did he change all that? I think
that's what people get. Michael misconscrewed and you know, they'll
they'll they label Michael tom as an uncle Tom or
you know, a coon because of that.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
I gotta be strategic because that's my baby. But Michael
wanted to be the King of pop He had a
fetish with Elvis Presley and he had his eyes on
Lisa Presley when she was very young. I think he
always knew he wanted to because he felt like.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
That was the epitome.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Yeah, you know, and I think he really wanted to
be king.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
But then when he got.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Over there, they showed him that you still.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And he broke his heart.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Did y'all have a relationship up until his path?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
No, he was too different. I couldn't relate to that. Michael.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
It had gone too far. But I think he knew
that it had gone too far.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
But what can you do. You can't go back at
this point. You can't go back.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Because we went to the opening of the Atlantist and
he asked me to come. He asked to see me,
and I didn't go because I was rehearsing, and I
often wondered what.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
He wanted, what he wanted to tell me.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
He probably wanted to tell me something or you know,
but it had gone too far.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
And I couldn't relate.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
And Michael was taught the moonwalk by my ex husband
Jeffrey Daniel.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I went to those rehearsals.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yeah, I know everybody claimed that they did not Jeffrey
Daniel taught Michael the moonwalk and all those things. But
you know, the Motown people, they don't always give people credit.
You know, they're taught not to give people credit. I
love giving people credit for what they do for me
because you can't do this by yourself. But you know,
Michael never gave him credit, and he should have.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
M It's just interesting to me, how, you know. I
always wondered, like, what can make a person like totally
lose their blackness? And have you seen somebody lose their
blackness or fall out with black people find a way
to get back with the community. Cause it feels like
once you, once you turn your back on us, we
turned our back on you forever.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But look at it.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
You know, I can remember a time people not gonna
like this either, But I can remember a time when
Michael would be at the awards and you would have
to get in a line to see him. I never
did that. I'm not getting an a line to see nobody.
Ain't nobody is that important. Nobody's more important than God.
And I think there's no one that's you know, like
some people say, well, how can you say something about
(18:22):
Oprah or something about Gail?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Aren't you afraid? I fear God? And you know that,
you know.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
That, Charlamagne. I only fear fear God. I don't feel
a backlash. I mean, I'm sixty six years old, right.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
But I think and nobody's above critique, Like nobody. I
don't care who you are and how much money you have,
because you could lose that. Look at Harvey Weinstein. I
remember a certain person calling him God. I you know,
Charlie Rose, who would have thought, you know, Matt lower.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Where he's kind of arrogant. He was arrogant.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
Yeah, yeah, But I just don't think that anybody's under approach.
But I do think Michael knew he went too far.
And you got to remember towards the end of his
career he went to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and
he even wanted to give Pops his minister barrickon his
his catalog and Pops wouldn't that Rye can be vicious
as we see with other people that are white dealing
(19:22):
with it. Britney Spears, and and and and I go
back to them because I really see how the business
has tormented them and the people around them.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
The movie Pride seven Deadly Sinned story. It's gonna be
on lifetime.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yes, with nephew Tommy, who did a brilliant job. He
plays with my son Gabe, and Kenya King who's a
Canadian actress, and Erica Campbell came in to uh play
Pastor Tray?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Is your first feature?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
My first feature?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's crazy, my first So since Broadway and everything else,
nobody decided seventy milis should be active.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
They wouldn't give me a job. Damn they wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Do you want to do more? Oh?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Yes, I got the bug now, but I'm not auditioning.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
No, no, she's not auditioning, so don't ask her.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
What roles? Would you want to play?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Mothers?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
I mean I could play a mother, you know, an
older sister, but mothers. I want to do a Christmas Yes,
I'm a therapist. Or I want to play somebody really
tough and like gangster.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I can see that too. I can see that too.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Now, until you see your side.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I would Kevin, you know anybody shorter than you? When
does the movie like like the.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Movie alight and then Black to Broadway is.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yes. Well, Stephanie Mills is always a pleasure sitting down
the bill with you and talk to you. And I
just love seeing you all the time.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I love seeing YouTube.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Bam b eyes.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yes, ma'am, that's right. It's Stephanie Mills, y'all. The Breakfast Club.
The Breakfast Club Mornings will never be the same. It's
topic times.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Called eight hundred five five five one to join into
the discussion with the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Morning. Everybody you see ej Envy, Charlamagne the God.
Speaker 10 (21:18):
We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
We got our guest co host, Jess Hilarious here what's
good and if you're just joining us, we were talking
about Jess and her baby daddy Roam and their relationship.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
A lot of people are called up this morning.
Speaker 11 (21:29):
Actually two people called up and said they had bad
relations with their baby daddy. Said they don't help out,
they don't pay any money, and it's just not good.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And I've never seen a co parenting relationship the way
Jess and Rome have, Like they got the coolest co
parenting relationship. They got to show that they do on
YouTube with the show YouTube.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
It's called Pants and Therapy in the second season, but
the first season is just as good as the second one.
The second one we sitting down with couples trying to
help them create healthy boundaries and healthy environments for their
kids parents not.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
The only thing I found odd about their relationship is
that Rome is rom on the phone. Yeah, rooms on
the phone, rong rong, good on wrong, come on peace
king now room. I heard oh with her just talking
yesterday and she was saying, how you call her sis? Yeah?
Now you done shot her club up? Y'all got a
whole ten year old first of all, seven, why do
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you call her siss?
Speaker 12 (22:23):
Because the situation is right now and we built to
that point. But it's like I looked at.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
Her like a sister family member, be said.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
That take the shihead, await man.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
It is different.
Speaker 12 (22:38):
It's hard to explain. Some people call it weird, but.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I don't know. It's no more sexual. It's just that's
my sister. That's the you know, that's my love. I
don't killed somebody from m but I ain't shooting the
club up again. I think y'all soul makes wrong, Yeah.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
But you know what it is, no sexual Yeah, that's
just what it is.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You know. You know. I'm but how did y'all get
to that point though, because most people don't get to
that point How did y'all get to that point where
you guys are damn their best friends. Y'all focus on
your future, your life, the business, the baby, the family.
But y'all can still do your thing.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Rome has been through a lot of things and like
he he don't really have a lot of family to
rely on. He don't really have a lot of friends
to rely on. It through the years, he'll have friends,
then he don't. Then they'll like to open up. And
he's never felt like he was in a safe space enough.
You got to provide like a safe space for a
man to even open up and become vulnerable, because that's
not what they do, especially man, They don't, you know.
(23:32):
And I was the first female that just didn't run
from his whole story, didn't judge him, always helped them.
Now he has a best friend and she you know,
they they cool, but like it's a little bit more
hands on with me, like and after all the feelings
and getting past them. We became friends on that. You know,
(23:52):
I was like a therapist for him or whatever, and
he the same foot. Well, he don't really do nothing
for me in.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
That asset my parent you know you don't.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
But I'm saying, yeah, that is big wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That is big wrong.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
What's that elaborated on that you take out all the
emotions and are feeling and you can be great. Yeah,
but one of the biggest problems we did had that
we was able to overcome as well.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Well.
Speaker 12 (24:20):
Jacksually did like over that boundary the little bit like
in relationships, what.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You mean, She'll she'll run up on girls you messing
with no no but.
Speaker 12 (24:31):
Me and made a good advice. She she wanted to
be she would want to be in it two months
and then I used to used to make me mad
because I always feel like I mind my business when
it comes to you. Even when she realized that it
took that away, it became even better.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
So you're trying to holler out a chicken.
Speaker 11 (24:47):
She's telling you, now, I don't like shorty, shorty, did
Shorty that she dived into your relationship?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Just no, no, no, no, no, no, no, wrong, not even
necessarily that right, Let me tell him what it is
wrong because you you're talking a little slow. You just
woke up, obviously. Look, this is the thing that room
room will be in a relationship, and then Rome will
introduced me to these girls. Rome will want me to
build a nice, little cool relationship with them. And then
when things start happening because he's not able to be
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faithful lawyer or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Then damn, it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Then it's they they then I got and then they
break up with him, and now when he beefing with him,
I gotta beef with him. And it's like no, but
now it's am I your business? But you called me,
you put me in the business. But don't be in
a business too damn much. Don't be saying like I'd
be giving a damn that much. I just give a
damn about you like you be introducing me. That's how
(25:37):
I end up cool with all the baby mothers, you
know what I'm saying, Like, and they cool, and I
love his kids like and even girls they didn't have
babies with a lot of them were cool. But then
he moved, bing bing bing bing bing. Here it is like, dang,
what happened to shorten? Don't worry about it?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You move on with me. I don't know what you do. Yeah,
that's what it is. I want to know how many
more relationships are out there, like just in Rome, Like
how many people got baby daddy brothers? Right? You know
what I mean? Because you got a baby daddy brother,
you know what I mean? And you got a baby
mama's sister. But it takes a lot, and you gotta comment.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
I think it's a lot. I just think it's not
the norm and people are agreed to put it to
the world because of being be not the first person
to do this.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I know that I've never seen it. I think, you know,
I've just never seen it evolve go from a baby
mama uh to to you know, Oh that's like that's
my sister. And y'all really hold each other down like that.
I think that let's take some calls. Let's say, Roman,
appreciate you.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
I know you, we just woke you up. We appreciate
you for checking in.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Brother. Appreciate and Rome, you're a great father. Man, You're
a great father. I love the way you hold it
down for your son.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Man.
Speaker 12 (26:45):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Man.
Speaker 12 (26:46):
Thank you you having brothday.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
Hello is this this is man? Yay, jazz me, good morning.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
I have a baby daddy, but it is not peaceful.
So parenting is not easy. And we spent thirteen years
together and I felt like yesterday listening to just fix
people's messages, I thought about you know, I think their
relationship is so commendable. They co parents so gracefully, and
(27:17):
you know, they're funny together. They make it, they make
it a good time. They make it look like a
good time. So I'm like, how how is that even possible?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Just it just literally shut up. It just literally takes.
It takes time, it really does. And you know it
it depends on how y'all both feel about each other.
You know, y'all still does one half feelings for the
other one. You know, it's just okay, okay, you said
that very strongly.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Very but you said.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
You couldn't pay me the sweet Framewater girl.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Okaye.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well do you do you even like them at all? No?
Speaker 10 (27:54):
Okay, so you don't even want to be you' even
like it?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
But because I know the bigger it is, the bigger
picture is my children. So I know how to put
my bike on to the side.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Right, but don't think right? Okay, all right, but are
you still heard about anything is that's what is that
was stopping?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Well, I will say this, I am very betrayed. I
was very betrayed from the beginning, so that it's hard for.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Me to let go.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Definitely.
Speaker 11 (28:19):
Okay, So you still I don't think you could be
friends unless you let that go, because you'll always have
that overyard relationship even if y'all just become friends.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So I think that's where it has to go. Yeah,
if you know about having a baby daddy, it was
a lot of things. What the hell you're my only
baby daddy, which is what was going on here?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Hold on, all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
You want just to fix the mess?
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Yes, I need to know, I want I need her.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, that's but that's what it literally takes.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Though.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
You just have to get past your hurt. Because a
lot of things wrong did to me. I had to
let go. I didn't just put them to the side.
You know, it's a big difference between putting it to
the side and really getting past it. It was man,
he had ran into a lump summer money. I was broke,
lights off everything, the and my son and we had
to we had candles, I had a car. I had
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to go in the car to get air. All of that,
and he knew all of this, but I couldn't hold
that over his head. I didn't have time to hate
him because he was so young, never had no money,
so when he got it, he just did whatever he
wanted to do with it.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You feel me.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
And he was young.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
He never tossed y'all nothing, No, he.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Never, no, he never talk to me anything.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Be a good story.
Speaker 10 (29:28):
I thought he came up with some money and helped
you out. Oh no, I don't know to this day.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
No, So how do you stay from being discrediled?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
How did you?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I didn't have time to hate him, yo, Listen. I
was trying to figure out the next game, the next
way to get some money, to way to get my
lights on, Like he ain't, never had no bread like that,
And so when he came into it, he just you know.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Know that. From what I'm getting from your situation and
hearing these calls is you never stopped liking him as
a person, as a friend, You know what I mean?
These people grew to hate their baby daddy. I think
once you go to hate your baby daddy's hard to
come back from that.
Speaker 10 (30:02):
Yeah, what's the story.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I guess just what, y'all, I'm not drunk no more.
Stop being drunk at four o'clock this morning.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Look the moral of the.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Story, I don't really know what the moral of the
story is. It ain't no story. It's just you know,
you you just you have to learn how to move
forward am amicable. Yeah I'm still drunk, all right. Yeah,
you have to learn how to You gotta learn how
to move forward amicably. Yes, with the with the other parent, Yo,
you got to take all them feelings out of there.
(30:34):
If y'all want to be like me and Rome, you
gotta take out all those feelings and you can't hold
on to hurt like yeah, like Charlamagne say. And I
never got to the point where I wanted to hate them, Yo,
I was gonna hate him. My life is still gonna
be off. I ain't got time for that. And I
never stopped him from saying the sun not ever. Look,
please come get them, but bring them back, you know
what I mean? Like never, It's never been no malicious intent,
(30:56):
no nothing, no ever took com downtown. And I should have,
you know, I felt like I should have back then
like now, but I just didn't want to do that.
I was like that girl who called up earlier, it
was gonna be a struggle fantists.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I feel like it was rooted in respect until it
grew into what it is now. I feel like a
lot of these relationships aren't rooted in respect, you know
what I mean. That's good suit everybody out there with
a baby, daddy, brother and figured out my sister.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
People that figured it out because I love my room.
You know, I love my best bro. That's your ma.
That's it. Ain't got to be somebody that you with.
You can have a best friend of the so many
you can have. I'm telling you, it's your soul. And
ain't got nothing to do with instancy.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
The Breakfast Club more than everybody.
Speaker 11 (31:38):
It's DJ n V Charlamagne to God. We are the
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Jess hilarious to see our guest co host and we
got a special guest in the building, Jocelyn Hernandez welcomed breakfast.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Thank you and in town.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
I didn't even know that you are doing your Jocelyn's
cabaret in New York.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
I am.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I cannot believe you didn't come see me yet. It's
so much much fun.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
D J MVY so break down with the cabarets, because
you know, Stallless is a strip club, it's a gentleman club.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It is a strict shout out to Starless and Marty
and everybody. So okay, So the cabaret, you know the cabaret.
I'm on my fourth season on Graduations. Yes, four seasons, girl,
that's a lot. That is a lot. And I owned
the show. I owned the IP, my intellectual property. I
wrote it. I wrote the cabaret. I created it, I
produced it, I do everything about it. I act in it.
(32:25):
So basically, it's like a group of ladies. They compete
to be inside of my cabaret. Actually, less performance which
was Saturday, I had twelve ladies dance with me on stage.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Some of them put theirselfs on fire, shoes on fire,
they skate on stage. So it's like a whole show
that this first actually moving to the house. They compete.
It's like it's like, uh, it's like Tyra Banks with
her show with the Modern Show, except that they're dancing.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
They're not modeling, you know what.
Speaker 10 (32:51):
They set themselves on fire on the pole.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
On the pole they choose they kitty cat everything be
on fire, the kit the kiddy cat be on fire,
did envy?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You talking about, yes, you know, not that type of
like you know, messed up fire. I'm talking about like
fun fire, like you know, like a real show, like
a real show. Definitely this season the Ladies step third
game up because season one, season two, season three of
the Cabaret it was great, and you know, we built
to it. You know, the first season, I was trying
to get the ladies to understand my vision. I want
to do a cabaret with my music and I want
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some dancers, and says I'm a musician. I want to
do it on TV. I want the girls to dance.
I want to I want to make it make sense.
I want to make it make one. Some of the
girls didn't believe. Season two, we did it. One of
them one ten thousand dollars. We performing Atlanta. We did
the whole choreography to one of my songs.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
So that was great.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Season three, I went on tour to twelve different cities.
It was a lot. It was quick, it was fast,
so we really need to have an actual show. But
the people love that, you know, they can they seen
the girls getting on stage door and they thing them
in the post. But now season four, it's more organized.
We got a routine, we got the whole show. It's
a thirty minute show. I think I'm performing like eight
songs for thirty minutes, and you know, then I do
(33:59):
my meeting. Read my last tour, I would just go
and just keep before me. But now I have to,
like you know, I have to preserve myself.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I have to film.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And I'm actually also filming Season four at the Cabaret
that would be airing next one on Suious Network.
Speaker 11 (34:11):
You think people don't take you serious because of the
love and hip hop, because of the College Hill, because
of the Cabaret, like they don't take you as serious
as you feel like they should.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I feel like they take me super serious. I always
have Cella shows. I have my only my fans that
I personally fans of Johnson that if you go on
my Instagram, on my Twitter or any of the hashtags.
At the Cabaret, they say my songs word for word,
word for word, like you got. I do shows sometimes
with fifteen hundred people, twenty five hundred people, one hundred people,
(34:40):
three hundred people, five hundred people. It's different cities, different shows,
different locations, and every city you go to they sing
my songs every song, not just birthday song, not just
Vegas I want to ride, but every now of the week,
get Rico, fingupcheck slay every song. They run me my
money every song that I have. And I you know,
I've never put out an album, but I put out
(35:02):
singles like all the time. And so I definitely feel
like people has taken me.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Seriously.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Do I feel like it took them a long time?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
But do I feel who am I to be before
anyone else? I just have to keep working. If I
believe in myself, I have to just keep pushing. I
love that I see a lot of different things for you.
It's like, why the hell you won't get into like
pro wrestling? Why?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Wow?
Speaker 12 (35:23):
What?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
What was happening? Like? Why you won't go in some
pro What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Slapping security? You're supposed to protect you. She's slapping this
quick enough clouds. So I tell you what, I tell
you what I'm not really you know. You know I
just got out of jail. Yes, you know, I just
got out of jail. There's really not too much that
I could talk on that, But I will, you know,
because you know, you know, I was gone, girl, I
was in a lot of the el Brownwood County. I
was cold, came out with a coughing everything I thought
(35:52):
I was for two days, and I'm seeing it up
here as sick as a dog.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Why me?
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Why me?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah? So I can't really speak too much on that,
but but what I can say is that I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Always protect Yes, how do you say it is?
Speaker 10 (36:07):
Protect?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yes? Me? Right?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And if you see me out here in the streets,
when you know, you two in the world America, whoever
knows me, know where I come from and what I've
done and how I've changed, you know, I'm just making
sure that I'm straight and no one hurts me, you know.
So you know, the media only show you one thing.
It looks like a whole lot of chaos, but you
might not know what happened prior to that chaos, like
(36:30):
five seconds before or ten seconds before. You just see
like the row, right, And because it's me, it's always
so much bigger than what it actually is. Yeah, And
that's another big point too. So it's like even to
keep going back to a you know, love and hip hop,
they had you, I know that the it was a
lot of tension with you on Mona because it's like
she always wanted to portray you in that light. You
know what I'm saying. Do you ever feel any way
(36:52):
about that, like how you would be for Mona about it?
Then you go over in Laul Lamel. He got you,
you know, looking the same way when you're so many
of the things and just fighter. Well, I say this,
I will sell this. Shout out. Shout out to Mona
and shout out to let me. They both gave me
amazing opportunities. And I will also say I'm a grown
person right the way I run my cabaret as far
(37:13):
as like being on Suit's network, because when I did
love on hip hop, I was like, you know, I
was younger, I was wild, I was out there. So
it's only but so much that and network could do
for yourself to help you or break you. You know,
you still have to as said responsibilities as a human being,
as a you know, for yourself. So with that, that
was what it was right And if it wasn't for
(37:34):
love of hip hop, let's just be real, I will
not be here with the cabaret. And then you know,
with the cabaret. Like, listen, that's just how I run
my show, you know what I'm saying, Like I run
my to do what I tell them to do. If
you can, you can't be in the cabaret. You know
when you see me on suits will lend me on
the cabaret. I just think that you see so much
more of me running a business instead of seeing like
the personal Jocelyn, Like the person of Jocelyn is different
(37:57):
than the Jocelyn that's actually running a business. So I
might look like I'm row or like I'm being putting
this one life, but you got to remember you're only seeing, like,
really just twenty thirty percent of my life. Because even
though I got camerase out for forty six weeks, like
I do right now, feel me Johnson discabaret, He said, four,
it's still not everything that you know. You don't see
when I'm crying. You don't see when I'm taking care
(38:17):
of my daughter. You don't see when I'm you know,
working out doing yoga every day. I've been in New
York and I've been doing yoga every day with my husband.
Speaker 11 (38:23):
But you could, I was gonna say, but you know
the fact that it's your show. You can display what
you want to display. Now, you can put that out there.
You just ain't got to put the cabaret port. You
could put that out too. And I was gonna ask
you shout it out, you know, Mota Scott. I know
one time you were saying, so now you your Mota
go back and forth. But the fact that y'all shout
her out, have y'all spoke, have y'all squashed that beef
at that time, or you just let it go?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I haven't talked to her. But it's just like you
come to a place where you grow up. I don't
got to keep being mad at Mono, being mad at
anybody for nothing, Like, well, how does that help me?
How does that give me any blessing? How does that
make God open the door for me to get like
keep opening up my third eye so I can keep
pursuing my dreams and my career. How could I help
young ladies in the world. You know, like that ain't
(39:05):
gonna you know, my my biggest goal to be in life.
I grew up and I always say this, I grew
up in Puerto Rico. I grew up in Cattle Lina,
and like say's middle, And I said, yo, I grew
up in the ghetto, in the hood, in the trenches,
and I used to be running around without no shoes
and have needles hero on needles on my feet.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I had to come home.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I'm gonna have to pull in my My dad used
to be up crack and a heroin addict. So I
come from nothing right, and my dad died when I
was very young. And for me, my most important thing
is to showcase to the little girls that they could
do it. If I did it, you could do it too.
Like that's always going to be my in goal because
I have a daughter, and it's it's it's it's rooted
deep in my heart. I want to always be that
(39:46):
voice of reasoning to the young girls because they know
I was a mess when I first came out. But
look where I come from. Look what cars was given
to me for me to play. So you got to
remember I come from a really low income family. When
I tell you low income, I mean like food stampslow
in you feel me. And so for me now, it's
like all I want to do is really just do
my job, do what I love to do, music TV,
(40:07):
help the little girls, take care of Bonnie, have another
child with my husband. Yes, I'm an audist. Yes I
do messed up things. Yes I'm out there. You might
see something. Oh she crazy. I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I'm not gonna ever do anything that truly in my
heart don't feel like I need to do, and I'm
gonna take the consequences.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Afterwards, we got more with Johnson Henandas when we come back,
don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody. It's
the dj NZ, Charlomagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 11 (40:33):
We're still kicking it with Jocelyn Hernandez. Jess Solaris is here,
Charlamagne is out for a couple of days. Do you
turn up for the cameras? The reason I say that
is absolutely when people talk about Johnson, I'm like, I've
been on flights with Jocelyn, like, and she's the coolest.
Speaker 10 (40:50):
Comments, how's your family, how's your wife doing? So then
when I turn on the TV, I'm like, that's not
the person.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I just do it for three hours.
Speaker 10 (40:56):
I'm like, that's not the same person. So you you
make it your business to entertain?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Can I tell you something you could ask my family?
You could ask my best friend Melissa, which is my
manager and my husband. But listen, say I am a trip.
I wake up in the morning tripping. I'm tripping. I'm
high off life. I'm recently clean. And when I say clean, listen,
let me tell you I'm grown. I could do whatever
I want. I got my stuff together. I ain't never
been in the streets.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Y'all.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Ain't never heard that I owe nobody money. You ain't
never heard that I'm broke. You ain't never heard that
I ain't getting no money. You ain't never heard that
I'm a junkie outside shooting up.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
No.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Did I like to party, Absolutely, still love to. But
I know that I have to focus and I have
to be as clean as I can to be the
best that I can be. Right, But you could ask
this too. I don't have to have nothing in my system.
I wake up with the bush. Just like a funny person.
People always be like, you should be a commedian. No,
I'm funny because I don't want to be a commedian.
I'm funny because that's just who I am as a person.
So like I do turn off for the cameras, but
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envy I'm a funny ass. No matter what, Like I
wake up funny. I just like to have fun. I
like to have fun, I think, and I'm very and
you got to remember, when I'm working and filming, I
have to be very strict. And the second I getting
out to be strict, I'm gonna be funny, I'm gonna
be a bitch. I would be cracking jokes everything.
Speaker 10 (42:07):
Now you said you're clean?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Is it? You're clean because you have your baby? And
you're like, I have to change or what decided you? Like?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
You know what?
Speaker 10 (42:13):
I want to be clean? And what does clean mean?
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Well, you're not clean? Is not you know, you know,
not doing it? Want to not doing it? One too?
I'm done but doing not doing?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
What did baby make?
Speaker 10 (42:29):
You want to say? You know what I got to change?
Or what was it that made Was it a.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Scare or it wasn't?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Like no scared? No, scared?
Speaker 4 (42:34):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
I always being very cautious and I do everything very limited,
you know, because I'm I'm cuteed.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I want to stay that way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
So I'm like, you know, I be like you know
when I hang out with my you know, I'm I'm more.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Like a social party person.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
You know what I mean, and I don't hang out
all the time, but I feel so much stronger and
so much better. It's like I feel like I don't
need the crutches anymore. To me, the way I think
about it's like a crutch, and I just feel like
I'm finally walking without them and I don't need them.
And I feel younger, I feel smarter, I feel sharper. Look,
I finished working last night too. In the morning, I
went to sleep, and I'm back up at seven o'clock.
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I told my manager, so, I said, I cannot believe.
I took a poop, I brushed my teeth, I drank
some tea, I drank some water, I did some medicine.
I did my haird and my makeup and got here
by I said, that is.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Not Johnson r Nan. That's that's evolution.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
That's having open that's making sure that you don't abuse
any drugs, you don't abuse anything in your path that
could potentially throw you off being the best you.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (43:36):
I want to ask you know, after the Floyd fight,
we we spoke about your relationship with your husband, right,
and I want to ask you about that because what
we said was and this is what I said on
a I said, you know, I look at my wife
as not only as my wife, my lover, she's my sister,
she's my best friend. So if she swing, I'm swinging.
And then when we get home, I got to find
out if she was right or wrong. That's just how
our relationship works. But how is your relationship when it
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comes to those type of things, because you are on
TV and you are you know, taped all the time,
and you are out and about, So how is that
relationship with you and you and your man?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Well, shout out to Relistick. He is the man of
my dreams. I love that man. How she did a
day dream room.
Speaker 9 (44:14):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
We know, but the relationship is say, I'm gonna tell
you like this, if he swings on the man, I'm swinging.
If I swing, he don't swing. It's just that he
always there in the moment by me making sure that
don't nobody else but the person that is involved is
not doing nothing.
Speaker 10 (44:30):
Chara, say, he just gonna hold the other girl.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
But no, no, no, never, never never never.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
No, He'll be like, why the is you here? He
gonna be he gonna say, why is you here? Now
you know johnsonally don't want your ass here, you know.
But my man is a very respectful man. He's been
around all the ladies from the cabaret. He's a trusted
man and he's a real man. He will not swing
on the lady. And he's never swung on old lady.
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If he looks at the heat of the moment where
he might be screaming on their whole day making sure
that don't nobody else do anything to me. He gonna
always do that as a man, because that's what the
man is supposed to do, you know. And he's so strong,
he's got all the African power. If he's swings on
a lady, she's dead.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Look at that man.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
That man six feet sometime two hundred and sometimes. He's
a big, old strong man, you know. So he know
better than that. You know. He doesn't do it now,
you know, without talking about the incident. But you perform
that night I performed. That was my first time performing
at an arena. Shout out to let me for letting
me do that, because I asked let me, let me
let me well from the owners network, he put the
fight together and I was like, oh my gosh, let
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me can I perform there and he was like sure.
Speaker 10 (45:37):
I was like, yeah, how was that performance? Yeah, butterflies,
because I mean you perform.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I mean you not.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
I perform in my shows that people know my music
and they come to see me and pay to see me.
I never performed in a place.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Where they go you feel me.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
So that was my first time. So I was I
was nervous. But we've been practicing because I'm also filming
the Cabaret here in New York. So we been dancing
every day and it went really good. And then actually
the girls that I had just picked, four dancers that
I just meant in New York to dance with me.
So we we learned that routine twenty four hours prior,
and you trusted them and not even I mean, I
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gotta trust something if you want to If I wanted
to go well and it went well, look it would look.
Here's what I can't say. When I did my first song,
they were clapping about the rhythm and they clapping for me.
This is this is this is good stuff. These people
don't know. My mean said this. All people coming to
see people fight like them. All people don't be out
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there really just knowing what you know like the underground
artists on myself is really doing like yeah, they might
have heard my song, do it like if you'll be there,
I want to write in their in their grandkids you
know house or the children house.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
But not like that.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
But you don't know, you don't know, you could have.
You don't know if some of them old people was
probably leaving it like yeah whatever, but you never know
that would happened. I was like, oh, many fads, so
I was.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I was excited about that.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
I did like a three songs said because I only
had like seven minutes and thirty seconds, and I thought
it was great.
Speaker 10 (47:04):
Now when you drunk that night, because people asked were
you drunk?
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I had a lemonary youself. I always love to say
I wasn't drunk, but I would have one or two
drinks and for some reason, and I think, because I'm
not chasing it with any drugs, it just hits me
so much harder. Yeah, because I remember when I used
to be on my she could drink ten drinks.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
You know what I'm saying. I could drink ten drinks.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
But it's not like I tell my husband, oh my gosh,
I got a headache. How many drinks your hell, but
only I like to drinks. I was neay with a headache.
It's like it's like my brain just don't want to
go back.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
It's called age.
Speaker 10 (47:36):
That's what it's called.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
What you talking age? Get it called age.
Speaker 10 (47:42):
When we come back, we got more with Johnson and
there this is the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Good morning morning everybody to Envy, Charlomagne to God, we
are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 11 (47:51):
Were still kicking it with Jocelyn Hernandez. Jess Solaris is here,
Charlomage's out for a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Jess.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Okay, So how is your co parents and relationship with Stevie?
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I was that?
Speaker 3 (48:01):
How were y'all? I mean, you know, I don't really
never talk to him. He talks to Bonnie on the
phone and uh, you know, he says, sir, I have
I have primary custody of Bonnie. I have physical custody
of Bonnie, and uh, he's seen her life. He's you know,
he has the right to see her whenever he wants to.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
So I think I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Yeah, I think it's good. And you know, my husband
being with Bonnie since she was six months and he's
been taking care of her because I me and my husband.
When Bonnie was like six two eight months, it was
really she was like a like a little toddler, like
a little baby, not even a taller, she was a baby. Yeah.
And so you know she loves she loves my husband,
and you know she has a great relationship with her dad.
I'm sure she loves him too. So sure, I mean
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I think I think it's great. So she has two dads,
I mean I never put it that way because yeah,
all the time, it's just two dads.
Speaker 8 (48:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (48:47):
Now what made you do college?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Hill? Did you want to go back to school with that?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
One of it?
Speaker 10 (48:51):
Was that one of your dreams? Like I want to
can I.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Tell you something?
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yes? Really yes?
Speaker 3 (48:55):
And I told my husband, I'm like, damn, I got
the opportunity to go back to school.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
I never want.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
First of all, I didn't even fit high school yard.
I'm very smart though. I got ownership for always got ownership.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
Big.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
You gotta go get your g D first before you
are But you skipped the ged you went to college
that experience.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
So well, First of all, it was a great experience
because HBCU, a lot of people always see this is
something I need to clarify, maybe I need to do
it at the Breafast Club with Chatu because I've always
considered myself a black woman. But I was born in
Puerto Rico and I speak Spanish. My first language is Spanish.
But that's that that doesn't take away from the pack.
When I walk in the building, people look at me
and they say, that is a black woman, right, And
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so I always been cool and love to be a
black woman, and they'd be like, Afro Latina. No, I
don't have an afro. I don't have an afro. I
don't have an afro. And I am a black woman
that was born in the island of Puerto Rico. That's
space Spanish.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
And I teach my daughter, my daughter confused out of
somebody right now, but go ahead, but why because you're
Puerto Rican? I am Puerto Rican. But back to the HBCU.
In the HBCU, you know what I learned.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
I learned that the Puerto Ricans, the people that were
born in Pero Rica that were black too, and back
in the days, back in those days, they were definitely
Afro Latinos because they all used to wear you know,
the big the big here. But you know that the
Black African American and the Puerto Ricas. They were tight,
you know that when they were trying to do everything
with the freeing the Negro and stuff like that. That's
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the stuff that I learned at the HBCU in the Alabama.
You know, they were kind of telling us how the
black Spanish and the Black African American came together and
they were so much tighter than we actually are now.
But me, I considered myself culture. Yeah, I consider myself
a black woman that was born in Puerto Rico. Yes,
I'm Latina because of course I see Spanish and I'm Latin.
But for me, it's more than just saying that. For me,
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it's just that I'm proud to be black, whether I'm
Spanish or not. And I just feel like a lot
of people just have a problem with me being so proud.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
To be black.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
What's your with me proud that I have for this color?
Like what's the problem? And was that what kind of
like takes you off with Amber? Like because I kind
of seen that. It was like even like what happened
because I don't know what to what happened with I mean,
I didn't have the camera, I wasn't in the class.
She was like selling her, like, yo, like you don't
want to be black, you don't want to be black.
Speaker 10 (51:09):
I've seen you told am, but she didn't want to
be black.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
But I've seen previous you know, like it's been years.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Everybody.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
It's not no damn secret, you know. And but really
she you know, she she liked to dismiss the black
side of her.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
I mean, she wasn't lying. I guess that's just a trigger,
you know what I mean, you was lying. I wasn't lying.
I was lying because I wasn't lying, And you know,
I wasn't lying because we were talking about being black.
And I just have to let them know. You don't
want to be black. You came out of a big
black just like I did. My mama got a big
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old black pidy. She's a perto Rican woman, but that
lady black and her mama was blacker than the table
my mama. So I come out of black. You came
out of a black people. You don't want to you
don't want to say you're black. That's weird to me.
That's so weird to me. I don't care where your
color is. I always thought she considered herself black too,
Like I really seen that she was a Karen.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
When I got there, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
It was just pretty whoa.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
He said, that was crazy to find out that she
was a Karen.
Speaker 11 (52:10):
What do you mean Karen? Like she she did not
respect black rights. We like, because I didn't see that
the show. So I'm confused. So I want you to
tell me because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
You know what a Karen is. I do, But then
that's what she is.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
I'm telling you, yo, It's just not.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
The only one that say that. You can go so
it come up. It's just yeah, it was like it
was you were just saying that for the first time there,
but then that for the first time to her, like period,
like when she was getting upset about what I was saying,
the joke I was being ignoredt at school. Sometimes you
go to school, you would you want to be in Glasgow.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
I was just talking.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
I was like, man, I'm the biggest I got up
that day. I said, I'm the biggest man.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Then you got into a Philly in Miami scuffle. We
got a little scuffle. Listen that Joan is not from
the part of the Philly that you think she's from.
And yo, I don't it's not.
Speaker 10 (52:58):
Johnson practice that when that Joe, And mean, the.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Only thing I practiced is my bullet points that I'm
supposed to speak on. I don't practice nothing else. Everything
else is gonna always be me.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
And you should know that that John that Joe when
you know her husband.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Is to Philly. So you know, I know a few words.
Speaker 10 (53:12):
Really, I gotta ask you, big LEXI, I don't know that, Okay,
I really.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Want to know who she is.
Speaker 10 (53:18):
I didn't really know who she is.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
I don't know. I don't know that.
Speaker 10 (53:22):
I wanted to know what you know what we don't know.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
We don't know. We don't know her.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
I never knew, we never know her. No, I just know.
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (53:29):
I'm just trying to figure out because I know I
googled that. I seemed like that night I googled and
I seen and I was trying to figure out know
that I don't know. So I was gonna ask Love
and Hip Hop, would you ever.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Do it again?
Speaker 10 (53:39):
It seems like the ratings.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Literally I want to go do it. I want to
do it right now, please I right now, whoever charge
of love a hip.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
I come home at the Princess. I'm gonna come through ballistic.
Speaker 10 (53:48):
It's cool going on there and then having the family
and everything.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
Oh, no, accident.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
I don't listen Like look man, I'm already this farr
I'm I'm just gonna.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Say they need some more ratings, and I just I
need how to go ahead on over there? Man, what
you should I go to the one in Miami or
the one in Atlanta, Miami, turn up anyone she is
because I live in Miami. Please go to you.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
You gave you.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
You don't owe nothing else to Atlanta, and you you
already put that franchise on the missap I need you
to do Miami. I do I do her hoodie?
Speaker 8 (54:16):
Why not?
Speaker 10 (54:17):
Are you making money off the mook shot? They said
that you were put there.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
Everybody, get listen. Jocelyn Cabaret Tour dot Com. I should
have brought your something. Listen.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Why ain't wearing? Why warn't bring Jessica? Now?
Speaker 3 (54:27):
So you're selling I am and it's going to make it. Listen.
Can you please go download that there right there, because
you're gonna it go it look good. I had them
deluver time briefcase with the Louisverton shoes, and the louisver
Time glasses, the mud shot and and and the gene
Now for oh, I was flying is like it was show.
Oh yeah, babe, I thought I would say potty and
killing it. Yeah, thank you? So God got your T shirts? Yeah,
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Johnson discabaret to dot com you could go get them.
Speaker 10 (54:51):
Well, Johnson, we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 11 (54:54):
Like I said, I see you all the time, and
and you're so calm and so nice. But I ain't
gonna front you.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Gotta you. You might to get in boxing after this
is all. You might just want to just maybe even
you know a couple of them.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
Can I truly tell you something? If I didn't, if
I wasn't an autist and I didn't care about breaking
my face, I would do UFC. Oh yeah, I would.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
I do UFC. I want to box. I would do UFC.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
But I can't. I told my husband all the time,
and her I'd be like, I would do it, but
I can't because the first thing is going to break
on me is my nose and then it's over. But
she is so fixed she could set it up how
she want to set it up and she know, no,
that is not fair. No, that's why I said wrestling.
I mean because she can do wrestling and that that's
big money. No, I would do you break this just down.
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I'm a great fighter. You know what I told somebody
the other day, I said, because I told somebody, I said,
do you do karate? Don't? You ain't gonna do no
more karate than me. I don't know karate, but I
know crazy. I know crazy?
Speaker 1 (55:50):
You know? You know what's his name? Said that?
Speaker 3 (55:52):
What's the singer name, James Brown in the song? I
don't know karate, but I know crazy. You know James Brown?
Speaker 1 (55:57):
To you?
Speaker 10 (55:57):
I know that's right, ladies and general man. Oh, last
question is that your security go out there that I
was out there at the fight that night.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
You know what, I troubled with about twenty security guards.
Speaker 11 (56:06):
So I'm not sure you know which one I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the three pizza?
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Is that the one right there? The three pizza?
Speaker 3 (56:12):
And is it a slap slap test that they gotta get?
Speaker 12 (56:16):
You?
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Can? I say y'all to say y'all so funny? Why
is y'all so funny?
Speaker 10 (56:20):
When I see them? I noticed him before I noticed you.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
I said, it's like, no, we want to be like you,
good good, like that. I don't want to do acces that.
I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
They got plenty of money from the suits. They'll be
just fine.
Speaker 10 (56:35):
Right, we know that, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
It's Johnson, the Puto, Rican Princess, the biggest.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
It's the.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Donkey up today. By damn heg, it's time to donkey.
I mean, trying to be dunky today.
Speaker 7 (56:56):
No more.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm
not making these people do these days called Donkey of
the day, and it really caught me off guard.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Damn Charlamagne, who got the donkey out of day to day?
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Welless hilarious. Donkey of to Day for Tuesday, March twenty
eight was a double donkey. It goes to thirty eighth
year old Chief Chastain and the Clovis Police Department. It
comes a point in time in life where we all
must remember it takes to you. Okay, to you, all right, kids,
gather around your uncle Sharloh would like to tell you
about some things that have been going on since the
nineteen hundreds. Okay, One of those things is the saying
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it takes to you, okay, are it takes to you
to tango? That means that a situational argument involves two
people and they are both therefore responsible for it. I repeat,
it takes to you to tango. Means that a situational
argument involves two people and they are both therefore responsible
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for it. It takes two. There's also a classic hip
hop record that will make anyone with a soul who
grew up in the nineteen hundreds and eighties lose their mind.
The reason I'm giving you this history lesson to day
is because in this donkey that I'm delivering, it absolutely
took to you. All right. See, Keith was arrested ten
times in one monff. I repeat, Keith Chastain was arrested
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ten times in one monf See y'all think I'd be lying.
Let's go to Fox twenty six News for the report.
Speaker 13 (58:18):
Police local law enforcement agencies say they are very familiar
with thirty eight year old Keith Chastain, who has been
booked in Fresno County jail not once, not twice, but
ten times in the last thirty one days. Chastain is
from Fresno, and it's currently facing eighteen felonies and fifteen
misdemeanors from his recent arrests. According to Clovis Police Department,
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his charges include stealing six vehicles, a dui, vandalism, fraud,
possession of controlled substance, and more. Clovis Police Department alone
says it has arrested Chastain six times in the last month.
Around nine thirty Tuesday morning, Clovis Police received a call
about a stolen truck that Chastain was suspected of driving.
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Police sayan officer found the stolen truck driving an old
town Clovis and followed it until more officers arrived. Officers
pulled Chastain over in front of Clovis Police Department and
arrested him without incident. Police say he was the only
person in the stolen truck and happened to be on
his way to pick up his personal property from Clovis
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Police Department. From the last time he was arrested. Mind you,
he was in a stolen vehicle.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Now. As you just heard, Keith Chastain was arrested ten
times by Clovis Police six times, okay, six times by
Clovis Police and four times by other agencies he was
in a stolen vehicle on the way to pick up
his items from the jail. Okay, Now, if he had
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gotten locked up by different agencies once or twice, I
would understand. But if you get locked up by the
s AIM agency the Clothes Police department six times, six times,
at what point does it become the police department's fault
as well for constantly letting you out? At what point
does it become a judge's fault for constantly grant you bail.
He's facing eighteen felonies in fifteen misdemeanors, with charges including
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stealing six vehicles, dui vandalism, fraud, possession of a controlled substance,
and a whole lot more. At some point, maybe after
arrest number three, possibly after arrest number five, surely at
arrest number six, someone at the Clovis Police Department has
to say, no need to let this man out, because
he's just gonna come right back. Okay. If the Clovis
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Police Department had a customer loyalty program like Starbucks or
Subway or Sophara, this man Keith would get his tenth
arrest for free. Okay, hit the rest of nine times,
get your tenth for rest for free. Clearly this man
has a boyfriend behind those walls. Either that or he
likes the food. Okay. When someone shows you who they are,
believe them. And this man Keif has shown us he's
a serial criminal. Okay, so give him what he wants,
(01:01:01):
and what he wants is clearly zero bond, ten arrest
in thirty one days. Insanity is doing the same thing
over and over and expecting different results. So yes, Keith
is insane because he keeps committing crimes in the same
crimes and getting locked up. And the Clovis Police Department
is insane because they keep locking Keith up for these crimes,
the same crimes and letting them out. They both are
(01:01:22):
to blame. So please give Keith Chastain a heat and
give the Clovis Police Department a hall together, because it
takes two to give them the biggest he hal. This
man wrote his name in jail, yo, that's why they said,
don't write you name. They don't write your name on
the walls in jail. You keep coming back to that jail.
Jesus the breakfast club morning, Everybody's dja envy Cholamagne to God,
(01:01:51):
we are the Breakfast Club. Of course, Jess Hilaries is here, yes, indeed,
and we got a special guests in the building, Dion Co.
Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Hello, Hello, hello, my brother. How's everybody doing?
Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Yes, yes, I'm happy to see you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I can't I'm just I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely, man, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yeah, absolutely a lot to talk about. You got Average Joe.
Are you you're in a new color purple too? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yeah? Okay, absolutely yeah yeah, new color purple, Average Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
We just talked about that yesterday. We were talking about
they just released the trailer. What's your thoughts on the movie?
Because we were like, Color Purple?
Speaker 10 (01:02:32):
Is that a movie that you do.
Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Hard to remake? Classics? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
So the director Blizz I don't know. He did Beyonce's
The Lion King where she was like han Jay. They
was like, uh, live action Lion King. Yeah, but remember
this video she had. It was like a twenty minute
video where she was like and cars and on the
beach running and Jay had these like suits and stuff whatever.
(01:02:57):
It was like very beautifully yeah yeah, all of that. Yeah, yeah,
he directed all of that. And so for him to
take that vis and then apply it to this movie.
It's like bananas. Plus it's a different spin on it.
It's a whole different spin on a color purple. So
it's gonna be way different than the other one. But
(01:03:18):
still in it's all right, you know, holding up to
what it is. But I ain't really big on remakes,
neither like that. But but this one, Yeah, it's crazy
because it's a different perspective now.
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
That I was saying the twenty twenty three you can't
do color purple. You have to have to be woke. Yeah, yeah,
so much. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah, it's a whole different, whole different look on it,
a whole different span on it.
Speaker 11 (01:03:39):
But you know, some of the remakes so like I
didn't like Coming to America too, right, I just the
first one, which is classic.
Speaker 10 (01:03:44):
I don't touch that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't like There was another remake that
they did, but people told me white Man Can't Jump.
I didn't want to go see that, but people telling
me it's really really good, so I guess it can
if they come from a different perspective for a new
way House Party was another one.
Speaker 10 (01:03:56):
I didn't like it though, I didn't. I don't really
like that one.
Speaker 11 (01:03:57):
But yeah, when they do it from a different perspective
or shot. Well, I don't think there's a problem.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, I play our Fonzo, So I play Cee's father,
got when I take Philly.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
You can't have you can't have I can't remember, you
can't have her, but you can have.
Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, I play him kept. No, No, it's
it's different. Yeah, but you know you still you still
get it. He's still that dude got you.
Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Still call it ugly and woke away because of this
new era.
Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yo, Yeah I do. I do hate it definitely. That's
why I don't understand why people who don't like that
kind of stuff, Like why do you even come to
the shows? You're messing it up for the people that
really pay to come see in here, you know what
I mean? Like, why would you come in there with
your beliefs and feeling it's about something that I thought of,
And you ain't in my world. You ain't in my
(01:05:04):
tax bracket, you ain't around the people I'm around, you
ain't not about my culture. But you come over here
and try to tell me what I need to be
saying and doing. It don't even make sense. So yeah,
I hate that that we have to kind of conform
to that. And I heard somebody say that in the
interview that we don't and if and it's not a problem,
and it is a problem. I think honestly, you got Lenny,
(01:05:25):
Bruce and Richard and all these people who stood up
for us to be able to say whatever we want
to say, and now we can't. It's like, it's crazy
to take away from the whole thing. It's like, now
you go to comedy shows and they tell you what
they think you want to hear in order to be safe, right,
you know what I mean. But there's certain comics that
are still out on the front line that get loose,
you know, like Dave just don't give a note about nothing,
(01:05:48):
you know. So you got great comics that's still out
here fighting for that that voice that we all have
and that people want to hear, except for certain people
that don't.
Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
So and your circumstances because you you definitely edgy on stage,
but then you got all the court.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Going on, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, I can't yeah,
I can't say exactly what I wanted to say. That's
what that's my whole life, sitting back trying to figure
out another way. That's what That's all I do. How
can I say this another way and still be able
(01:06:24):
to say it?
Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
But you know, you to face an old Spice bro crazy,
Like that's why if you really think about it, it's
really wild. It's like time only think of two people.
The dude who used to ride the horse back.
Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Then yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah, it's crazy
right yeah. I couldn't even even when they came to
me about it. I was just like, wow, they can't
even say, hey.
Speaker 10 (01:06:49):
We want you to do this old Spice commercially be
the fake? What was your thought?
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
So at first they came to me and they was like,
I guess they have seen me do all these different
kind of like quirky like characters like on Angie, Tribeca
and Conan and Blackish, and I was doing all these
like trippy characters, and I guess they were like, yo,
it made sense where it was like yo, you come
in and yo we can all we can rock And
(01:07:13):
I was like yeah, I was like yeah I can
do that. So they flew me to Portugal, man, and
I shot all of this basically how old Spices get down,
you know what I mean? Like really wild in the woods,
beard growed and throwing trees and you know, I did
all of that, and then I came back to the
US and there's like they ain't they didn't want to
(01:07:34):
use none of all of that and then use none
of it. And then they came to me about something else.
Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
And then me and.
Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
I, Me and this other guy, we was just sitting.
I mean this other guy, he was cute. He was
writing this whole new premise. And then when it came
to me about it, and I was like, man, that's cool,
and so we did it, and man, it took off.
You know, just me and my girl a Gap. Yeah, yeah,
we just we just got it.
Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Then.
Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Yeah, we just I went and grabbed Gap and was like, yeah,
they're thinking about this, this thing where it's relationship with
a couple and trying to take your old spice, and
you know, they was like, yeah, let's do it. This man,
we did it.
Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
And because it's a storyline, commercial story I was supposed
to be in one of them.
Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Sister.
Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Yeah he brought that up.
Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yeah man, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
They picked.
Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Like family member and it was know, you're here supposed
to tell me get your black ass hands on my
something and again because somebody else, they never would have
said that.
Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I cut the every time I see that, that's supposed
to be me. I'm serious, I'm supposed to be listening. Yeah. Really,
ain't gonna tell you. You know, you were at the top.
So when we come back, we got more with Dion Cole.
It's the World's Most Dangerous Morning short of Breakfast Club.
Welcome back to the World's Most Dangerous Morning short of
Breakfast Club. Charlomage the God just hilarious Dion Cole.
Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Now, Jess, So I want to know, are you doctor
because I saw you just you know.
Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like if somebody on the plane high
out they need a doctor, they're gonna be ass out,
but they ain't the doctor. But yeah, yeah, I just
got that, just gotragulation.
Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Clander Smith College, which is now about because you're in
the first city. Yeah, thanks man, it's.
Speaker 10 (01:09:44):
How did you for all the work that you did
and everything?
Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Yeah, absolutely, and uh paid for his Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I got an endowment at South Carolina State University, Okay,
made me an honorary doctor it is. And I get
a commitment speech.
Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Yeah, yeah I did too. It was I gave mine.
They really didn't give to what I was saying. I
thought I was dropping some gems sitting down there on
their phone.
Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I was like out there like this might have been
taking think, so do you keep going when you see that? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
It was I was bombing, like for real, like I was.
I was giving it and then it'd be like a
couple of chuckles, a couple of coughs, and then I
just keep going, like just going up to the next
topic or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
But yeah, yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I was thinking I was doing like stand up you
thinking in front of an audience like that, you're about
to be ripping.
Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
They was out there like, nah, I want to see
my baby cross and get her degree, and that's what
I'm here for.
Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
But that's standing up, muscled on kicking when you see
people like ignoring you because you know you you'd get
at somebody for that. Nah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Like nah, I'm I'm quick to leave.
Speaker 10 (01:10:56):
I leave.
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
I leave, man, I didn't up some shows. Yeah, I
try it and I keep going. If it ain't working,
I just know that I ain't for them, and I go.
I'm Trevor good Night. I leave A whole nother name.
Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
He's Outville Sunky joke coming out through it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah, yeah, I was Joe. Man. This this was thank
you so much. It was man, this was a labor
of love. It's like a darkly comedic drama takes place
in Pittsburgh. This dude, his father dies and these mob
dudes is looking for him and the Joe. He don't
know what's going on, but his father left some money
(01:11:50):
trying to figure out what's going on, and he had
to make these decisions between like you know, family and money.
But yeah, it's it's funny, but it's it's dark. I
can say, like we was leaving set miserable just from.
Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Being like a comic. You gotta you know, you you
can be good to do comedy, but.
Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Every day just to leave murdering, lying and de seaful
and heartache and losing people and every day leave you know.
That was the first time I started realizing I understand
how like people kind of break when they when they
do movies and stuff. That was the very first time
I used to be like, he ain't that deep into characters.
(01:12:31):
But nah, Like if you keep doing that and you
have to constantly be that person, do that like you
used to like, that's where on you. I used to
always think like like with Parc, they always say Park
became like yeah, he became Bishop from Juice or whatever. Anyway,
that's how that show was. Man, we was down there,
we were shooting in the lineup. Boy, it was like
(01:12:53):
we was doing like sixteen hours sometimes twenty hours, you know,
shooting up. But we got a nice piece of work,
and man, it's it's gonna be something if y'all like
Murder and Mayhem. Absolutely yeah, yeah, you're gonna you're gonna
love this.
Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Your lead crazy the first time Crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
She's looking at you, talk about this amazing because even
as comics, we we can still we can play any part.
We can do anything. You always think of Robin Williams,
you know, the comics, especially going from comedy to Drive
and Jim Carrey and you know, even like what you
just say, like how you sixteen hours? You got a
status person and you got it. It's like you used
(01:13:36):
to being, you know, but no, it's different. But the
fact that you can do it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Yeah, But it's like I remember when I when they
when when they when I took the job. Because usually
I'm I'm a type of cat. I go play my
part and I go get my drop top and we rolling.
Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Like, that's what I did on Blackets for eight years.
Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
I did my part, that was out.
Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
I was gone when I signed on to do this,
And seem like six he paid scripts and I'm in
like ninety percent of it. I'm looking right like I
got a real job. I'm like, I can't leave. They like, man,
the first one hair last to leave. You Like what
(01:14:16):
it was an adjustment because I still had other things
going on and other businesses and other projects and trying
to write that and do that and trying to do this.
I had to learn to I had to cut all
that out and just focus dead on this and get
it done. But yeah, being you got to watch what
you pray for. You gotta know how to pray. You
(01:14:36):
know a lot of people don't know how to pray.
And you know, that was one of the things that
I learned. You know, a person to ask, man, Lord,
can I have a man? Can I have a woman?
And they'll get you one and they won't have a job.
Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
They won't have a job.
Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I forgot to ask for a job with that person.
Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
When it comes to comedy and drama, right, they always say,
it's a thin line. That's what the whole tears of
a clown can come from. Toether comic, you don't lean
into trauma.
Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Yeah, absolutely, that's that's exactly what I did, you know
what I mean. But it wasn't like that at first.
Like another another turning point, when we was doing the
Hearder They Fall, I was like I walked on set
and was like, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
What's going on, Hey, what's going on on?
Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Funny and comedian comedian? I remember Jonathan Majors and all them.
They was just all sitting back and doorl Roy Lindo.
They was all just quiet and just chilling, and I
was like, Hey, what's going on? And beyond Hey, so
we're going knock the South and we're gonna they was
just like And then when we werehearsed, they was just
like so like and like it was so real, and
so it just was like, man, I remember Jonathan told me,
(01:15:42):
he was like, man, you shouldn't acting is the worst
title for this job. This is what you should not
be doing. You should not be acting. You should become
you should become that person instead of acting. And so
it made me be like oh really, So then I
went back changed my whole demean up man, just from
(01:16:03):
that conversation and came back and was like, all right,
we gotta we gotta just be calmness person. And I
remember that all the time, just becoming you know.
Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
And so when we come back, we got more with
Dion Cole, it is the World's Most Dangerous Mornings for
the Breakfast Club, The Breakfast Club. Welcome back to the
world Most Dangerous Morning. Sh to Breakfast Club, CHARLAMAGNEA God,
just hilarious, Dion Cole, what about when you're not in
the mind state? The joke all work like like like
did you give yourself time to grieve after your mother path?
Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
So I am like still dealing with that, Like that's
like really with me still, and I'm trying because I
was the only child, no father, Yeah, no, thank you man,
And I'm still like That's why I try to stay
as busy as possible because anytime I like have downtime
(01:16:57):
or anything good happened, like that's with me because I'd
be wishing she was here, that she can like be
here and be a part of that. And people out
there that that's going through the state, they know what
I'm talking about, Like anything good happen to you. You
just it's like a bit of sweet moment, you know,
like even with the color purple coming out, I'm not
like in it like that, but I just wish my
(01:17:20):
mama would have been there to see that. And you know,
it's things like that, even average Joe being the lead,
it's like, I wish my mama was here so she
could like see that and feel that because there's stuff
we talked about, even getting my doctorate, for her to
know that her son was now like doc having a
degree like that. It's just I would have like center,
(01:17:42):
you know what I mean. So anytime these situations happen,
it's like it's nice. But I also just getting to
like and people don't and people always be like you
need to go talk to somebody and something, and it's like, yeah,
you can do that, but this just happened to me.
Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
It's like, I don't know nobody who has something like
this can just happen to you and you go talk
to somebody and you all good. If anybody's like that,
they weird to me, like you should be able to agree,
like you said, and you should be able to have
these moments. And you don't rush people in these situations,
you know, just just be there for them, you know.
(01:18:19):
And I had a lot of people leave me, Like
a lot of people leave me because I wasn't who
they wanted me to be when I was good. Your
mom just passed, come on, I know, but everybody left
and it was weird. And people out there that's dealing
with death and they know what I'm talking about, Like,
(01:18:40):
people leave you because you shain't And now I'm not
the person out out that that I was when they
met me. And I understand that. But if you're a
good friend and you really there, you're gonna you're gonna
understand the severity of this, and you're gonna understand that,
you know, being the only child, not having nobody else
and no mother, no father, nothing thing like that, and
(01:19:01):
that's gonna wail on you. You basically in the world alone,
you know what I mean, You really don't have nobody else.
I mean I got family, cousins and stuff like that.
But media, it's it's hard.
Speaker 7 (01:19:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
I go through it every day and I try to
try to be better, and you know, I try to advocate.
Tell everybody, Man, if you got your mother, your father,
any of that. Man, take pictures of them, video them,
talk to them. Even if you don't get along with them,
just be around them, man, because you just never know.
Because my mom died suddenly, was nothing wrong with just
(01:19:37):
I came from audition calling her and they was like,
she didn't make it, and thinking that she was going
to an appointment. I was like an appointment.
Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
It's like, nah, she ain't make it.
Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
And I'm like make what You could.
Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Not understand that, Like, what do you mean she make it?
Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
They told me that. I just like, I was like,
I just talked to her, What are you talking about?
I ain't even want to, Like even with my Netflix special,
I didn't even want to do that. That wasn't even
something I was planning to do. But I got cornered
into shooting that special on that day, you know, like
the day that my mom died, September tenth, and I
(01:20:12):
was looking for a spot. Usually when you tour, if
you're about to shoot a special, you won't perform in
that city. So I was gonna do Philly. Philly was
city I was gonna shoot my special win, but we
were taking too long with the deal and I ended
up doing Philly right, and now I had nowhere else
to go, and I wanted to shoot. I thought about
New York, but I just was like, you got to
(01:20:33):
be from New York in order to do New York,
you know what I mean, Like it's New York is
just different, you know, It's like you got to be
from there. But when it came around to me shooting special,
Netflix is like, you got shooting September, and I was like,
make sure it's at the end of September because I
know I couldn't shoot around a year later from the
day my mom passed. They came back not even knowing.
(01:20:54):
They was like this, yeah, we got the venue. I'm like, man,
let's do it. I was like what day They was
like September tenth. I was like, I said nah. I
was like, I was like, I ain't gonna do it.
Then about the days later, my mom was like, you
know what, don't even mourn like that, like celebrate her.
Shoot on that day, dedicate this to her and celebrate her,
(01:21:15):
because when people pass man, you have to like make
them live through you. Of course, even if it's a password,
you know what I mean, if you get it, if
you set a password and you put their name in
every day you that's that's day. They stay with you
every day, you know what I mean. And so I
was like, you didn't password, No, I did not.
Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
I didn't know, but y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
And I just was like, man, I'm gonna shoot it,
and I shot it like on that day. But I
also was trying to show people and teach people that
with comedians and entertain us, even y'all, people don't understand
we we got problems and when we perform and you
never know what that comic is going through. So that
was a whole deal with my Netflix special. It was
(01:22:03):
that I wanted to perform without telling nobody what was
going on, and then at the end of the special
let them know I was up here rocking with y'all.
You're not even knowing what I was going through. I
just cried right before I walked out on stage. I
was backstage wiping my eyes, took a deep breath, and
walked out there, performed the whole special with them not
(01:22:25):
even knowing that this was like the one year anniversary
of my mom's death, and I wanted tend to see
that us performers, we had to put aside whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
We're going through you said something powerful that I would
like for you to talk about, just because that's something
I struggle with. How do you show up as a
friend when somebody had somebody that they lose that's close
to them, like a parent or significant other. Would you
have wanted your friends to do in that moment.
Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
So if I'm now different, and we ain't buying bottles
and kicking it, and I ain't none club, and I'm
now I'm in the club with you, but I'm but
I'm daydreaming and I'm zoned out, and I ain't helping
you pull all the women in the club and all
that or whatever. Now I'm boring to you. I'm not
what you was. If you're a friend, you're gonna be like, man,
(01:23:17):
let's get out this club. Let's go ahead, let's go chill,
let's go get you together, Let's go chill. If you're
any way different, even if I'm snappy, even if I'm
not understanding, if I don't hear you correctly at any
of that, understand that I wasn't normally like this. So
therefore you have to know that there's some kind of
issue going on with me, right, So therefore you have
(01:23:39):
to channel that and understand that and get to know
who I am now or who I'm about to be,
because now I'm embarking on.
Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
A new normal.
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
And that's what everybody has to do. It out there
and embark on a new normal for absolutely. And once
a true friend understand that, yo, he's he's embarking on
the new normal. And I have to be here to
learn that new normal in order to be there, to
be there for that, you know what I mean. So
once a person understands that, and they'll be there, they
(01:24:10):
won't leave you, and they gonna be there and they
gonna and they're gonna help you out and they not
gonna leave because all of a sudden you don't understand
them and all of that, and it's like it's it's
so whack or whatever. And I lost not only I
lose my mother, I lost like other family members and
friends and so it was very and I'm still in
(01:24:30):
that kind of lonely spot right now, you know, but
it's a lot better because I'm working and I got
all these other projects coming out and about the pop
and bubble and all that, and so it's taking up
my mind frame and you know, me working on a
whole New Hour, the tour with and all of that.
So you know, I'm not feeling as left out and
(01:24:50):
lonely no more, because you know, I got a lot
going on. But as a friend, that's what a friend does.
A friend understands that you changed, and they gonna change
with you, and they're gonna be there for you, and
they gonna find out how are you now, find out
what makes you happy?
Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
What makes you sad? Now you know, and they're gonna
be that for you, you know what I mean. But
falling back and and it's a selfish move, a lot
of people go because they go, oh, you're not making
me feel comfortable around you or and now it's about them, yeah,
you and not you, you know what I mean. So yeah,
it's it's a it's a trip that situation. And I'm
(01:25:28):
still learning, you know what I mean. And uh, and
the friends that I do have, Man, we've been rocking
and you know, we having a ball and we're gonna
keep it moving.
Speaker 10 (01:25:38):
We appreciate you, brother, and we love you brother.
Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
I love y'all man, and I thank y'all man for
this platform. I hate that it got serious.
Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Like always give the best conversations and I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
I appreciate y'all, man, and y'all keep doing, y'all doing
y'all very I just want to say, y'all, y'all very powerful,
more powerful than what y'all even probably thinking though, and
I want you all to understand that and keep doing
good with with with the positions y'all.
Speaker 11 (01:26:12):
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Plus and thank you brother for joining us.
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Thank you so much. Man.
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Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Cole. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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what I'm saying. Like, y'all know what y'all talk about.
This is probably becoming the most prominent form for here, probably.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Be here next to all of you guys. It's really
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and shook one old them? Matter of fact, you got
me one for father's there and one for all the
Christmas last year.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Man, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Hello, what is this?
Speaker 8 (01:10):
I don't want to say my name?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Okay, well what's something on the radio? Nobody can see you.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
But you know, may people be listening.
Speaker 9 (01:18):
But I have a question because I just recently got
broken up. But great, I'm in a lesbian relationship. And
I went out of town not so long ago.
Speaker 8 (01:26):
And I, you know, I have a business.
Speaker 9 (01:28):
So I was networking and I was speaking to a
mail about my business and who worked at the bar
that I was doing my homework aap and so I
came back home and he sent me a message was like, hey.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
How you doing.
Speaker 8 (01:40):
How's your family to start?
Speaker 9 (01:41):
Get backstafe?
Speaker 8 (01:42):
And my girlfriend has a problem with it, and so
she broke up with me. Like she's like, I'm a lesbian,
I don't deal with mails, and I'm just like I
do business. I network with males and females. I just
wanted to like, is that wrong?
Speaker 10 (01:54):
I don't think that's wrong at all.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I mean, if there was, even if it was another woman,
I mean, as long as y'all not flirting in this business,
I don't see a problem with it.
Speaker 10 (02:01):
You weren't hiding it from your.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Girl, So it's not like you were trying to be
deceptive or sneaking around. Now I don't see a problem
with it. Yeah, but those you know, she she probably upset.
She probably upset because you're talking to somebody who you know,
got something that she could never have, which is a penis.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know.
Speaker 9 (02:16):
And I feel like that when the insecurity only comes
out with males because I speak to females in the
same way and it's usually about my business as I
do with males. But it's just males, she always has
a problem. And I'm like, it makes me feel like, Okay,
you're like immaturely dating, you don't know how to date.
But I'm like, I don't know, like can have friends
to man that his wife have.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know, your circumstances are totally different. Now I have
to ask you a question. Did you get penis before
you became a lesbian?
Speaker 10 (02:43):
Good question?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Did you like, yes, yes, that's what it is.
Speaker 10 (02:47):
The problem back to penis. She don't want you to realize.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
But what does that have to do with me?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
That's her in security?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Like, is that something that I'm supposed to adjust?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It is? But I will say this, I will say,
try to have a conversation and bring her in on
part of the conversation, you asked if if my wife
has male friends, we have friends.
Speaker 11 (03:06):
She doesn't have friends that I don't know about. She
doesn't have friends, and she speaks to that I don't know.
We all have friends, just like I have female friends,
but my wife knows them.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (03:15):
But it means by though, so I'm not by shut up.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Many we try.
Speaker 11 (03:22):
To be serious, but I would give a conversation to
try to make it feel comfortable as possible. Obviously she
feels a little uncomfortable because she feels like you're gonna
get back to the penis.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
But let her know that you don't want any penis.
And it's all box for you.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
Curious, okay, all right, and go and go.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And go box them out, saying go box them out? Face?
Speaker 10 (03:44):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Man?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You heard what she said? She said? You was very
like skinned to say that. I concur Hello, who's this.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Hell?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You said?
Speaker 10 (03:53):
A little off phone?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You got bluetooth in or your head piece? He hear me?
I can hear you perfectly.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Whatever, All right, what's up?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Man?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Calling to get off my dad? Brother, get off my chest? Yeah. No,
me and my girl. We finally feeling good today. Me
and my girl we offer seven month dry fell man
like you know, so we finally have you know, inter
course again and I feel good about it.
Speaker 10 (04:17):
Seven months? Why so long?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Huh said? Why so long?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I kind of you know, I kind of messed up
with you know, I was cheating. I was messing up
a little bit cheating. Not cheating, you know, not not
physically cheating, probably emotionally cheating. So uh, yeah, she finally
you know, so it was a while she wasn't you know,
feeling me.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Do you know, y'all do no? Humans, women especially are
more emotional than physical, so emotionally cheating and emotionally hurting
her can probably cause her to dry up more so
than the physical.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
You know what I mean? You know, I realized that.
Speaker 10 (04:55):
Yes, I'm glad you y'all are back.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Brother, Thank you man, have a good one you suit jam.
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I just wanted to call in, man, because I'm so excited.
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Man.
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Really really even news man this time around.
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Man.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm in here. I'm in here burning my Pola santo
right now. The energy is great. I got my candles lit.
Me and him be just being here living our best lives. Man,
you enjoy having a good time. That's that's without and
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Speaker 6 (05:56):
That man, go hear you, guys man.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And that has not always been the but nowadays.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Hello this Hey, what's up?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
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Speaker 10 (06:11):
Get it off your chest?
Speaker 12 (06:12):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Guys?
Speaker 12 (06:13):
I love you guys.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Man.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So I've been on a team the last couple of
times I got through about toxic people, and lately it's
been I find it's more family usually than it is
than anybody. And so I found I'm forty five and
I think a lot of people can relate Rocker life.
We you know, we main need to lean on people
for help. And it might be in a rough time.
(06:36):
It might be a house payment, it might be they
order you a pizza when you down on your luck,
and then you find out these people get mad at you.
You know, it could be a six months down the road,
two years down the look, you know, they're on your
Facebook because they're mad, and you find out that you
owe them a million dollars all of a sudden, Well
they didn't order you a pizza. They you know, they
(06:58):
act like they be buying food for the last three years.
You know, the story justn't completely blown out of contact
because they're mad.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That's why sometimes you just got to give people thoughts
and press absolutely not you.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Know what, And I tried to you know what, I
I just put this real quick. I put this on
my bio. I heard it a new Facebook, and I'm
adding friends that I would try to go to their
funeral or if they would come to mind, because otherwise.
Speaker 12 (07:21):
It's just disgrace.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
School people got two thousand friends and they don't even
know half of them. I put this in my bio.
When I need help, give me a hug, not money.
That way, you're mad. All I owe you is a hug.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But I will I will say this.
Speaker 11 (07:34):
You know, in life, and I think Charlamagne and I
think even you can will say this, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Always highs and lows, right. You always have a good
part of your life with everything is going great, but
it could be a left turn and sometimes you need help.
Speaker 11 (07:43):
And it doesn't have to be financial. It could be
just a good you know, a hug, or a good
hold or good conversation. And those are the people I
keep around me. And whether they family or friends, it's
all the same. If you can't provide me that and
I can't provide you that, then we don't need to
be around each other. But I want to be around
people that's going to hold hold each other up and
make sure we all all right.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I think the biggest problem. I think the biggest problem
is that you know your family, and you know and
your close friends be having a sense of entitlement. That's true,
you know what I'm saying, And when they want, when
they want more, they act like you never did anything
for them, you know what I'm saying. So he could
be a pizza or you know, our money when they
want more. Anything you ever did will never be enough
(08:22):
to act like you never did anything correct, you know,
And I can't. I don't deal with entitled people. Gets
the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
That's hilarious is our guest.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
So so, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 10 (08:34):
Stephanie Mills, good morning, Miss Mills.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
Good morning, good morning. Oh yeah, eyes, I'm fine. Don't
you think he has bamby beautiful eyes.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Beautiful?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's my baby.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Yeah. I love Stephanie Mills. You know that we have
a love affair. He's like my son. He could be
my son.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That's right, literally son. Now you got a lot going on,
Miss Mills. You got your PBS special.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I have a lot going on the Broadway, Babe.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Pride.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
The movie.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Pride executive produced the TDJ Derek Williams, and they just
offered me the part. Derek called me and said, do
you want to do this role?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And sent me the script and I said yes, And
You're torn. I'm torn, Wow, And I'm getting ready this possibility.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
I'm getting ready to come back to Broadway to do.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
My own shot?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
What based on your life?
Speaker 7 (09:28):
No not, I don't want to do anything based on
my life, but just songs and where I've come from
and all of that.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Wow, Wow, how are you managing everything that you're doing
at the moment?
Speaker 7 (09:38):
I have a great manager I call amp Yum Yums.
He's just he's a yummy manager. You know how when
you find somebody that just you can trust.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And believes in you.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Absolutely, so pretty, thank you so much. So, how does
it feel to still be so legendary? Like forty years later?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Relevant?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
You like?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Relevant? Relevant? Even is like just still like it's people
still walking around singing your songs. He can't sing, but
he was literally walking around still just sing your songs
before you even said yeah, I come up there with
y'all and he was still walking around singing, Like how
does how does that feel?
Speaker 7 (10:15):
It's a blessing. I feel really blessed because I didn't
have the machinery behind me.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Okay you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
So for me to still be here doing it and
I'm doing it on my own terms because I kind
of backed away from the industry because it became too
much for me to still do it and then find
someone like Amp who believed in me and allows me
to be who I am, because you know, in this
business they try to change you to meet a certain criteria.
And I never fit into that criteria and didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And I love that. I love that, And and so
for the Rolling Stones magazine, greatest of all time? Yeah,
the greatest one of things of all time? How do
you feel being left out of that? I don't feel anything.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
I don't pay any attention to that. That's something behind
a desk who doesn't really know what they're talking enough.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
How could you leave Celine Dion off? How could you?
It's a great you know, how could you?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I don't pay attention to that.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
I don't pay attention to awards and all that, even
though I have awards of everything that of musically.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
What means matters to me, and which has kept me
with my sold out shows that I'm proud of is
my people coming to see me and paying their hard
earned money.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
That's what keeps me going.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, igue with you with the Rolling Stone. Clearly those
people are culturally coolest, you know what I mean? Leaving
people like you, Selina.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
But see, I was never played on vh one or MTV,
none of my videos because they always said I was
too urban and I only had a pop record with
Never Knew Love. That's the only one they allowed to
cross over.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I wonder you said something earlier. You said that you
never had the machine behind you. And it's interesting because
you can see how that might still impact you now
when it comes to these lists.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Right exactly when you think about it, like back in
the day when MTV, I my MTV and they didn't
want to play Michael. You know, it was a president
of the company that said, if you don't play him,
I'm going to expose that you're racist. And I don't
think really anything has changed. I think you have to
have And back then I didn't have that kind of
person that would go on the front line for me.
But Michael did, and I'm glad he did because just
(12:18):
imagine you not hearing Thriller the way it was, or
being exposed to all those wonderful videos that he did.
And they didn't acknowledge his forty at the anniversary of
Thriller or anything at the Grammys or American Music a BOYD.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
How did they pick and choose who got the machine
back then though, because I feel like back then you
really needed talent to get a deal.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
You really needed talent to get a deal. That's why
my audience is predominantly black, because Beet and all those
black outlets played my videos, you know, and black radio
supported me so much. So that's why I'm able to survive.
That's why I don't understand why a lot of black
artists like don't go back to the black publications and
(13:01):
things like that that made them, well, I know, white,
I colder always why, you know, I don't understand that.
I never understand why they think vanilla ice cream is
colder than chocolate.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I think it's because they want that mass look, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But you could have that. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
I went to Oh What's the Girls group? They came
to Charlotte and they sold out the arena. There was
nothing there but black people escape.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yes, so what's wrong with the black dollar? I definitely
get what you're saying that. My generation they also feel
like because I don't, although I'm a part of them,
they felt that's some type of advanced validation. When you
get like then they call it the crossover. It's like,
you know, and people, I did a show for Fox,
(13:49):
Sitcom on Fox. People around ye shout to the show
real and I was on it with Simbad he played
It was amazing, right, I love him too, Like the
show people was telling me because people was only used
to seeing me on like wild'n Out and all that
type of stuff, you know, more production with black people.
And then they were like, oh, that's your crossover. Fox
(14:11):
is your crossover. It's like you really made it. Now,
I really made it because I'm on Fox, you know,
working around all these white people. No, I've been made
it and it's still I still ain't make it. That's
that sitcom wasn't like the cream of the crop for
me yet. I'm still not where I want to be
in terms of you know, just where I'm going, right,
But I didn't consider that as my crossover. That's another
(14:33):
show that I'm on. That's another stepping stone, right, Like
you know, so I never so I get exactly what
you're saying.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
And that's what we think. We think when we cross
over to that pop we've made it. Why do we
want to be so accepted? And I never really want
I just wanted to be accepted. I wasn't good at smoothing,
you know, Charla Mane, I wasn't good at doing that,
and I didn't want to go to the parties and
have to meet this one. And I didn't like auditioning.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, I know that's Do you like it? No?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
I know they look at you like you're crazy, but
they make it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
So hard for you.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I won't do it, or don't act like.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
We got more with Stephanie Mills when we come back,
don't move.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, the breakfast Club. Let's
get back into it.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 10 (15:19):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I got a question Michael too, because I want to
know I will answer. Okay, good. So it's the true
that you and Michael I called it daty?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
How was that?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It was wonderful.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Michael was gentle, he was kind, very determined, knew where
he wanted to go, and we just had fun.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Used to come to the Wiz all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So was he a smooth criminal? It was a smooth criminal.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
I loved him that afro and chocolate.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, So why did he change all that? I think
that's what people get. Michael misconscrewed and you know, they'll
they'll they label Michael tom as an uncle Tom or
you know, a coon because of that.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
I gotta be strategic because that's my baby. But Michael
wanted to be the King of pop He had a
fetish with Elvis Presley and he had his eyes on
Lisa Presley when she was very young. I think he
always knew he wanted to because he felt like.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
That was the epitome.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Yeah, you know, and I think he really wanted to
be king.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
But then when he got.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Over there, they showed him that you still.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And he broke his heart.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Did y'all have a relationship up until his path?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
No, he was too different. I couldn't relate to that. Michael.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
It had gone too far. But I think he knew
that it had gone too far.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
But what can you do. You can't go back at
this point. You can't go back.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Because we went to the opening of the Atlantist and
he asked me to come. He asked to see me,
and I didn't go because I was rehearsing, and I
often wondered what.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
He wanted, what he wanted to tell me.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
He probably wanted to tell me something or you know,
but it had gone too far.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
And I couldn't relate.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
And Michael was taught the moonwalk by my ex husband
Jeffrey Daniel.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I went to those rehearsals.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yeah, I know everybody claimed that they did not Jeffrey
Daniel taught Michael the moonwalk and all those things. But
you know, the Motown people, they don't always give people credit.
You know, they're taught not to give people credit. I
love giving people credit for what they do for me
because you can't do this by yourself. But you know,
Michael never gave him credit, and he should have.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
M It's just interesting to me, how, you know. I
always wondered, like, what can make a person like totally
lose their blackness? And have you seen somebody lose their
blackness or fall out with black people find a way
to get back with the community. Cause it feels like
once you, once you turn your back on us, we
turned our back on you forever.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But look at it.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
You know, I can remember a time people not gonna
like this either, But I can remember a time when
Michael would be at the awards and you would have
to get in a line to see him. I never
did that. I'm not getting an a line to see nobody.
Ain't nobody is that important. Nobody's more important than God.
And I think there's no one that's you know, like
some people say, well, how can you say something about
(18:22):
Oprah or something about Gail?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Aren't you afraid? I fear God? And you know that,
you know.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
That, Charlamagne. I only fear fear God. I don't feel
a backlash. I mean, I'm sixty six years old, right.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
But I think and nobody's above critique, Like nobody. I
don't care who you are and how much money you have,
because you could lose that. Look at Harvey Weinstein. I
remember a certain person calling him God. I you know,
Charlie Rose, who would have thought, you know, Matt lower.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Where he's kind of arrogant. He was arrogant.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
Yeah, yeah, But I just don't think that anybody's under approach.
But I do think Michael knew he went too far.
And you got to remember towards the end of his
career he went to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and
he even wanted to give Pops his minister barrickon his
his catalog and Pops wouldn't that Rye can be vicious
as we see with other people that are white dealing
(19:22):
with it. Britney Spears, and and and and I go
back to them because I really see how the business
has tormented them and the people around them.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
The movie Pride seven Deadly Sinned story. It's gonna be
on lifetime.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yes, with nephew Tommy, who did a brilliant job. He
plays with my son Gabe, and Kenya King who's a
Canadian actress, and Erica Campbell came in to uh play
Pastor Tray?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Is your first feature?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
My first feature?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's crazy, my first So since Broadway and everything else,
nobody decided seventy milis should be active.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
They wouldn't give me a job. Damn they wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Do you want to do more? Oh?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Yes, I got the bug now, but I'm not auditioning.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
No, no, she's not auditioning, so don't ask her.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
What roles? Would you want to play?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Mothers?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
I mean I could play a mother, you know, an
older sister, but mothers. I want to do a Christmas Yes,
I'm a therapist. Or I want to play somebody really
tough and like gangster.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I can see that too. I can see that too.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Now, until you see your side.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I would Kevin, you know anybody shorter than you? When
does the movie like like the.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Movie alight and then Black to Broadway is.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yes. Well, Stephanie Mills is always a pleasure sitting down
the bill with you and talk to you. And I
just love seeing you all the time.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I love seeing YouTube.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Bam b eyes.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yes, ma'am, that's right. It's Stephanie Mills, y'all. The Breakfast Club.
The Breakfast Club Mornings will never be the same. It's
topic times.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Called eight hundred five five five one to join into
the discussion with the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Morning. Everybody you see ej Envy, Charlamagne the God.
Speaker 10 (21:18):
We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
We got our guest co host, Jess Hilarious here what's
good and if you're just joining us, we were talking
about Jess and her baby daddy Roam and their relationship.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
A lot of people are called up this morning.
Speaker 11 (21:29):
Actually two people called up and said they had bad
relations with their baby daddy. Said they don't help out,
they don't pay any money, and it's just not good.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And I've never seen a co parenting relationship the way
Jess and Rome have, Like they got the coolest co
parenting relationship. They got to show that they do on
YouTube with the show YouTube.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
It's called Pants and Therapy in the second season, but
the first season is just as good as the second one.
The second one we sitting down with couples trying to
help them create healthy boundaries and healthy environments for their
kids parents not.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
The only thing I found odd about their relationship is
that Rome is rom on the phone. Yeah, rooms on
the phone, rong rong, good on wrong, come on peace
king now room. I heard oh with her just talking
yesterday and she was saying, how you call her sis? Yeah?
Now you done shot her club up? Y'all got a
whole ten year old first of all, seven, why do
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you call her siss?
Speaker 12 (22:23):
Because the situation is right now and we built to
that point. But it's like I looked at.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
Her like a sister family member, be said.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
That take the shihead, await man.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
It is different.
Speaker 12 (22:38):
It's hard to explain. Some people call it weird, but.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I don't know. It's no more sexual. It's just that's
my sister. That's the you know, that's my love. I
don't killed somebody from m but I ain't shooting the
club up again. I think y'all soul makes wrong, Yeah.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
But you know what it is, no sexual Yeah, that's
just what it is.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You know. You know. I'm but how did y'all get
to that point though, because most people don't get to
that point How did y'all get to that point where
you guys are damn their best friends. Y'all focus on
your future, your life, the business, the baby, the family.
But y'all can still do your thing.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Rome has been through a lot of things and like
he he don't really have a lot of family to
rely on. He don't really have a lot of friends
to rely on. It through the years, he'll have friends,
then he don't. Then they'll like to open up. And
he's never felt like he was in a safe space enough.
You got to provide like a safe space for a
man to even open up and become vulnerable, because that's
not what they do, especially man, They don't, you know.
(23:32):
And I was the first female that just didn't run
from his whole story, didn't judge him, always helped them.
Now he has a best friend and she you know,
they they cool, but like it's a little bit more
hands on with me, like and after all the feelings
and getting past them. We became friends on that. You know,
(23:52):
I was like a therapist for him or whatever, and
he the same foot. Well, he don't really do nothing
for me in.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
That asset my parent you know you don't.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
But I'm saying, yeah, that is big wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That is big wrong.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
What's that elaborated on that you take out all the
emotions and are feeling and you can be great. Yeah,
but one of the biggest problems we did had that
we was able to overcome as well.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Well.
Speaker 12 (24:20):
Jacksually did like over that boundary the little bit like
in relationships, what.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You mean, She'll she'll run up on girls you messing
with no no but.
Speaker 12 (24:31):
Me and made a good advice. She she wanted to
be she would want to be in it two months
and then I used to used to make me mad
because I always feel like I mind my business when
it comes to you. Even when she realized that it
took that away, it became even better.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
So you're trying to holler out a chicken.
Speaker 11 (24:47):
She's telling you, now, I don't like shorty, shorty, did
Shorty that she dived into your relationship?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Just no, no, no, no, no, no, no, wrong, not even
necessarily that right, Let me tell him what it is
wrong because you you're talking a little slow. You just
woke up, obviously. Look, this is the thing that room
room will be in a relationship, and then Rome will
introduced me to these girls. Rome will want me to
build a nice, little cool relationship with them. And then
when things start happening because he's not able to be
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faithful lawyer or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Then damn, it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Then it's they they then I got and then they
break up with him, and now when he beefing with him,
I gotta beef with him. And it's like no, but
now it's am I your business? But you called me,
you put me in the business. But don't be in
a business too damn much. Don't be saying like I'd
be giving a damn that much. I just give a
damn about you like you be introducing me. That's how
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I end up cool with all the baby mothers, you
know what I'm saying, Like, and they cool, and I
love his kids like and even girls they didn't have
babies with a lot of them were cool. But then
he moved, bing bing bing bing bing. Here it is like, dang,
what happened to shorten? Don't worry about it?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You move on with me. I don't know what you do. Yeah,
that's what it is. I want to know how many
more relationships are out there, like just in Rome, Like
how many people got baby daddy brothers? Right? You know
what I mean? Because you got a baby daddy brother,
you know what I mean? And you got a baby
mama's sister. But it takes a lot, and you gotta comment.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
I think it's a lot. I just think it's not
the norm and people are agreed to put it to
the world because of being be not the first person
to do this.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I know that I've never seen it. I think, you know,
I've just never seen it evolve go from a baby
mama uh to to you know, Oh that's like that's
my sister. And y'all really hold each other down like that.
I think that let's take some calls. Let's say, Roman,
appreciate you.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
I know you, we just woke you up. We appreciate
you for checking in.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Brother. Appreciate and Rome, you're a great father. Man, You're
a great father. I love the way you hold it
down for your son.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Man.
Speaker 12 (26:45):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Man.
Speaker 12 (26:46):
Thank you you having brothday.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
Hello is this this is man? Yay, jazz me, good morning.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
I have a baby daddy, but it is not peaceful.
So parenting is not easy. And we spent thirteen years
together and I felt like yesterday listening to just fix
people's messages, I thought about you know, I think their
relationship is so commendable. They co parents so gracefully, and
(27:17):
you know, they're funny together. They make it, they make
it a good time. They make it look like a
good time. So I'm like, how how is that even possible?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Just it just literally shut up. It just literally takes.
It takes time, it really does. And you know it
it depends on how y'all both feel about each other.
You know, y'all still does one half feelings for the
other one. You know, it's just okay, okay, you said
that very strongly.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Very but you said.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
You couldn't pay me the sweet Framewater girl.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Okaye.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well do you do you even like them at all? No?
Speaker 10 (27:54):
Okay, so you don't even want to be you' even
like it?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
But because I know the bigger it is, the bigger
picture is my children. So I know how to put
my bike on to the side.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Right, but don't think right? Okay, all right, but are
you still heard about anything is that's what is that
was stopping?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Well, I will say this, I am very betrayed. I
was very betrayed from the beginning, so that it's hard for.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Me to let go.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Definitely.
Speaker 11 (28:19):
Okay, So you still I don't think you could be
friends unless you let that go, because you'll always have
that overyard relationship even if y'all just become friends.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So I think that's where it has to go. Yeah,
if you know about having a baby daddy, it was
a lot of things. What the hell you're my only
baby daddy, which is what was going on here?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Hold on, all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
You want just to fix the mess?
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Yes, I need to know, I want I need her.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, that's but that's what it literally takes.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Though.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
You just have to get past your hurt. Because a
lot of things wrong did to me. I had to
let go. I didn't just put them to the side.
You know, it's a big difference between putting it to
the side and really getting past it. It was man,
he had ran into a lump summer money. I was broke,
lights off everything, the and my son and we had
to we had candles, I had a car. I had
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to go in the car to get air. All of that,
and he knew all of this, but I couldn't hold
that over his head. I didn't have time to hate
him because he was so young, never had no money,
so when he got it, he just did whatever he
wanted to do with it.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You feel me.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
And he was young.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
He never tossed y'all nothing, No, he.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Never, no, he never talk to me anything.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Be a good story.
Speaker 10 (29:28):
I thought he came up with some money and helped
you out. Oh no, I don't know to this day.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
No, So how do you stay from being discrediled?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
How did you?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I didn't have time to hate him, yo, Listen. I
was trying to figure out the next game, the next
way to get some money, to way to get my
lights on, Like he ain't, never had no bread like that,
And so when he came into it, he just you know.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Know that. From what I'm getting from your situation and
hearing these calls is you never stopped liking him as
a person, as a friend, You know what I mean?
These people grew to hate their baby daddy. I think
once you go to hate your baby daddy's hard to
come back from that.
Speaker 10 (30:02):
Yeah, what's the story.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I guess just what, y'all, I'm not drunk no more.
Stop being drunk at four o'clock this morning.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Look the moral of the.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Story, I don't really know what the moral of the
story is. It ain't no story. It's just you know,
you you just you have to learn how to move
forward am amicable. Yeah I'm still drunk, all right. Yeah,
you have to learn how to You gotta learn how
to move forward amicably. Yes, with the with the other parent, Yo,
you got to take all them feelings out of there.
(30:34):
If y'all want to be like me and Rome, you
gotta take out all those feelings and you can't hold
on to hurt like yeah, like Charlamagne say. And I
never got to the point where I wanted to hate them, Yo,
I was gonna hate him. My life is still gonna
be off. I ain't got time for that. And I
never stopped him from saying the sun not ever. Look,
please come get them, but bring them back, you know
what I mean? Like never, It's never been no malicious intent,
(30:56):
no nothing, no ever took com downtown. And I should have,
you know, I felt like I should have back then
like now, but I just didn't want to do that.
I was like that girl who called up earlier, it
was gonna be a struggle fantists.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I feel like it was rooted in respect until it
grew into what it is now. I feel like a
lot of these relationships aren't rooted in respect, you know
what I mean. That's good suit everybody out there with
a baby, daddy, brother and figured out my sister.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
People that figured it out because I love my room.
You know, I love my best bro. That's your ma.
That's it. Ain't got to be somebody that you with.
You can have a best friend of the so many
you can have. I'm telling you, it's your soul. And
ain't got nothing to do with instancy.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
The Breakfast Club more than everybody.
Speaker 11 (31:38):
It's DJ n V Charlamagne to God. We are the
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Jess hilarious to see our guest co host and we
got a special guest in the building, Jocelyn Hernandez welcomed breakfast.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Thank you and in town.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
I didn't even know that you are doing your Jocelyn's
cabaret in New York.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
I am.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I cannot believe you didn't come see me yet. It's
so much much fun.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
D J MVY so break down with the cabarets, because
you know, Stallless is a strip club, it's a gentleman club.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It is a strict shout out to Starless and Marty
and everybody. So okay, So the cabaret, you know the cabaret.
I'm on my fourth season on Graduations. Yes, four seasons, girl,
that's a lot. That is a lot. And I owned
the show. I owned the IP, my intellectual property. I
wrote it. I wrote the cabaret. I created it, I
produced it, I do everything about it. I act in it.
(32:25):
So basically, it's like a group of ladies. They compete
to be inside of my cabaret. Actually, less performance which
was Saturday, I had twelve ladies dance with me on stage.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Some of them put theirselfs on fire, shoes on fire,
they skate on stage. So it's like a whole show
that this first actually moving to the house. They compete.
It's like it's like, uh, it's like Tyra Banks with
her show with the Modern Show, except that they're dancing.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
They're not modeling, you know what.
Speaker 10 (32:51):
They set themselves on fire on the pole.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
On the pole they choose they kitty cat everything be
on fire, the kit the kiddy cat be on fire,
did envy?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You talking about, yes, you know, not that type of
like you know, messed up fire. I'm talking about like
fun fire, like you know, like a real show, like
a real show. Definitely this season the Ladies step third
game up because season one, season two, season three of
the Cabaret it was great, and you know, we built
to it. You know, the first season, I was trying
to get the ladies to understand my vision. I want
to do a cabaret with my music and I want
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some dancers, and says I'm a musician. I want to
do it on TV. I want the girls to dance.
I want to I want to make it make sense.
I want to make it make one. Some of the
girls didn't believe. Season two, we did it. One of
them one ten thousand dollars. We performing Atlanta. We did
the whole choreography to one of my songs.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
So that was great.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Season three, I went on tour to twelve different cities.
It was a lot. It was quick, it was fast,
so we really need to have an actual show. But
the people love that, you know, they can they seen
the girls getting on stage door and they thing them
in the post. But now season four, it's more organized.
We got a routine, we got the whole show. It's
a thirty minute show. I think I'm performing like eight
songs for thirty minutes, and you know, then I do
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my meeting. Read my last tour, I would just go
and just keep before me. But now I have to,
like you know, I have to preserve myself.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I have to film.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And I'm actually also filming Season four at the Cabaret
that would be airing next one on Suious Network.
Speaker 11 (34:11):
You think people don't take you serious because of the
love and hip hop, because of the College Hill, because
of the Cabaret, like they don't take you as serious
as you feel like they should.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I feel like they take me super serious. I always
have Cella shows. I have my only my fans that
I personally fans of Johnson that if you go on
my Instagram, on my Twitter or any of the hashtags.
At the Cabaret, they say my songs word for word,
word for word, like you got. I do shows sometimes
with fifteen hundred people, twenty five hundred people, one hundred people,
(34:40):
three hundred people, five hundred people. It's different cities, different shows,
different locations, and every city you go to they sing
my songs every song, not just birthday song, not just
Vegas I want to ride, but every now of the week,
get Rico, fingupcheck slay every song. They run me my
money every song that I have. And I you know,
I've never put out an album, but I put out
(35:02):
singles like all the time. And so I definitely feel
like people has taken me.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Seriously.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Do I feel like it took them a long time?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
But do I feel who am I to be before
anyone else? I just have to keep working. If I
believe in myself, I have to just keep pushing. I
love that I see a lot of different things for you.
It's like, why the hell you won't get into like
pro wrestling? Why?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Wow?
Speaker 12 (35:23):
What?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
What was happening? Like? Why you won't go in some
pro What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Slapping security? You're supposed to protect you. She's slapping this
quick enough clouds. So I tell you what, I tell
you what I'm not really you know. You know I
just got out of jail. Yes, you know, I just
got out of jail. There's really not too much that
I could talk on that, But I will, you know,
because you know, you know, I was gone, girl, I
was in a lot of the el Brownwood County. I
was cold, came out with a coughing everything I thought
(35:52):
I was for two days, and I'm seeing it up
here as sick as a dog.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Why me?
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Why me?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah? So I can't really speak too much on that,
but but what I can say is that I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Always protect Yes, how do you say it is?
Speaker 10 (36:07):
Protect?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yes? Me? Right?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And if you see me out here in the streets,
when you know, you two in the world America, whoever
knows me, know where I come from and what I've
done and how I've changed, you know, I'm just making
sure that I'm straight and no one hurts me, you know.
So you know, the media only show you one thing.
It looks like a whole lot of chaos, but you
might not know what happened prior to that chaos, like
(36:30):
five seconds before or ten seconds before. You just see
like the row, right, And because it's me, it's always
so much bigger than what it actually is. Yeah, And
that's another big point too. So it's like even to
keep going back to a you know, love and hip hop,
they had you, I know that the it was a
lot of tension with you on Mona because it's like
she always wanted to portray you in that light. You
know what I'm saying. Do you ever feel any way
(36:52):
about that, like how you would be for Mona about it?
Then you go over in Laul Lamel. He got you,
you know, looking the same way when you're so many
of the things and just fighter. Well, I say this,
I will sell this. Shout out. Shout out to Mona
and shout out to let me. They both gave me
amazing opportunities. And I will also say I'm a grown
person right the way I run my cabaret as far
(37:13):
as like being on Suit's network, because when I did
love on hip hop, I was like, you know, I
was younger, I was wild, I was out there. So
it's only but so much that and network could do
for yourself to help you or break you. You know,
you still have to as said responsibilities as a human being,
as a you know, for yourself. So with that, that
was what it was right And if it wasn't for
(37:34):
love of hip hop, let's just be real, I will
not be here with the cabaret. And then you know,
with the cabaret. Like, listen, that's just how I run
my show, you know what I'm saying, Like I run
my to do what I tell them to do. If
you can, you can't be in the cabaret. You know
when you see me on suits will lend me on
the cabaret. I just think that you see so much
more of me running a business instead of seeing like
the personal Jocelyn, Like the person of Jocelyn is different
(37:57):
than the Jocelyn that's actually running a business. So I
might look like I'm row or like I'm being putting
this one life, but you got to remember you're only seeing, like,
really just twenty thirty percent of my life. Because even
though I got camerase out for forty six weeks, like
I do right now, feel me Johnson discabaret, He said, four,
it's still not everything that you know. You don't see
when I'm crying. You don't see when I'm taking care
(38:17):
of my daughter. You don't see when I'm you know,
working out doing yoga every day. I've been in New
York and I've been doing yoga every day with my husband.
Speaker 11 (38:23):
But you could, I was gonna say, but you know
the fact that it's your show. You can display what
you want to display. Now, you can put that out there.
You just ain't got to put the cabaret port. You
could put that out too. And I was gonna ask
you shout it out, you know, Mota Scott. I know
one time you were saying, so now you your Mota
go back and forth. But the fact that y'all shout
her out, have y'all spoke, have y'all squashed that beef
at that time, or you just let it go?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I haven't talked to her. But it's just like you
come to a place where you grow up. I don't
got to keep being mad at Mono, being mad at
anybody for nothing, Like, well, how does that help me?
How does that give me any blessing? How does that
make God open the door for me to get like
keep opening up my third eye so I can keep
pursuing my dreams and my career. How could I help
young ladies in the world. You know, like that ain't
(39:05):
gonna you know, my my biggest goal to be in life.
I grew up and I always say this, I grew
up in Puerto Rico. I grew up in Cattle Lina,
and like say's middle, And I said, yo, I grew
up in the ghetto, in the hood, in the trenches,
and I used to be running around without no shoes
and have needles hero on needles on my feet.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I had to come home.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I'm gonna have to pull in my My dad used
to be up crack and a heroin addict. So I
come from nothing right, and my dad died when I
was very young. And for me, my most important thing
is to showcase to the little girls that they could
do it. If I did it, you could do it too.
Like that's always going to be my in goal because
I have a daughter, and it's it's it's it's rooted
deep in my heart. I want to always be that
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voice of reasoning to the young girls because they know
I was a mess when I first came out. But
look where I come from. Look what cars was given
to me for me to play. So you got to
remember I come from a really low income family. When
I tell you low income, I mean like food stampslow
in you feel me. And so for me now, it's
like all I want to do is really just do
my job, do what I love to do, music TV,
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help the little girls, take care of Bonnie, have another
child with my husband. Yes, I'm an audist. Yes I
do messed up things. Yes I'm out there. You might
see something. Oh she crazy. I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I'm not gonna ever do anything that truly in my
heart don't feel like I need to do, and I'm
gonna take the consequences.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Afterwards, we got more with Johnson Henandas when we come back,
don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody. It's
the dj NZ, Charlomagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 11 (40:33):
We're still kicking it with Jocelyn Hernandez. Jess Solaris is here,
Charlamagne is out for a couple of days. Do you
turn up for the cameras? The reason I say that
is absolutely when people talk about Johnson, I'm like, I've
been on flights with Jocelyn, like, and she's the coolest.
Speaker 10 (40:50):
Comments, how's your family, how's your wife doing? So then
when I turn on the TV, I'm like, that's not
the person.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I just do it for three hours.
Speaker 10 (40:56):
I'm like, that's not the same person. So you you
make it your business to entertain?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Can I tell you something you could ask my family?
You could ask my best friend Melissa, which is my
manager and my husband. But listen, say I am a trip.
I wake up in the morning tripping. I'm tripping. I'm
high off life. I'm recently clean. And when I say clean, listen,
let me tell you I'm grown. I could do whatever
I want. I got my stuff together. I ain't never
been in the streets.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Y'all.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Ain't never heard that I owe nobody money. You ain't
never heard that I'm broke. You ain't never heard that
I ain't getting no money. You ain't never heard that
I'm a junkie outside shooting up.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
No.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Did I like to party, Absolutely, still love to. But
I know that I have to focus and I have
to be as clean as I can to be the
best that I can be. Right, But you could ask
this too. I don't have to have nothing in my system.
I wake up with the bush. Just like a funny person.
People always be like, you should be a commedian. No,
I'm funny because I don't want to be a commedian.
I'm funny because that's just who I am as a person.
So like I do turn off for the cameras, but
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envy I'm a funny ass. No matter what, Like I
wake up funny. I just like to have fun. I
like to have fun, I think, and I'm very and
you got to remember, when I'm working and filming, I
have to be very strict. And the second I getting
out to be strict, I'm gonna be funny, I'm gonna
be a bitch. I would be cracking jokes everything.
Speaker 10 (42:07):
Now you said you're clean?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Is it? You're clean because you have your baby? And
you're like, I have to change or what decided you? Like?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
You know what?
Speaker 10 (42:13):
I want to be clean? And what does clean mean?
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Well, you're not clean? Is not you know, you know,
not doing it? Want to not doing it? One too?
I'm done but doing not doing?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
What did baby make?
Speaker 10 (42:29):
You want to say? You know what I got to change?
Or what was it that made Was it a.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Scare or it wasn't?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Like no scared? No, scared?
Speaker 4 (42:34):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
I always being very cautious and I do everything very limited,
you know, because I'm I'm cuteed.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I want to stay that way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
So I'm like, you know, I be like you know
when I hang out with my you know, I'm I'm more.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Like a social party person.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
You know what I mean, and I don't hang out
all the time, but I feel so much stronger and
so much better. It's like I feel like I don't
need the crutches anymore. To me, the way I think
about it's like a crutch, and I just feel like
I'm finally walking without them and I don't need them.
And I feel younger, I feel smarter, I feel sharper. Look,
I finished working last night too. In the morning, I
went to sleep, and I'm back up at seven o'clock.
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I told my manager, so, I said, I cannot believe.
I took a poop, I brushed my teeth, I drank
some tea, I drank some water, I did some medicine.
I did my haird and my makeup and got here
by I said, that is.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Not Johnson r Nan. That's that's evolution.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
That's having open that's making sure that you don't abuse
any drugs, you don't abuse anything in your path that
could potentially throw you off being the best you.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (43:36):
I want to ask you know, after the Floyd fight,
we we spoke about your relationship with your husband, right,
and I want to ask you about that because what
we said was and this is what I said on
a I said, you know, I look at my wife
as not only as my wife, my lover, she's my sister,
she's my best friend. So if she swing, I'm swinging.
And then when we get home, I got to find
out if she was right or wrong. That's just how
our relationship works. But how is your relationship when it
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comes to those type of things, because you are on
TV and you are you know, taped all the time,
and you are out and about, So how is that
relationship with you and you and your man?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Well, shout out to Relistick. He is the man of
my dreams. I love that man. How she did a
day dream room.
Speaker 9 (44:14):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
We know, but the relationship is say, I'm gonna tell
you like this, if he swings on the man, I'm swinging.
If I swing, he don't swing. It's just that he
always there in the moment by me making sure that
don't nobody else but the person that is involved is
not doing nothing.
Speaker 10 (44:30):
Chara, say, he just gonna hold the other girl.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
But no, no, no, never, never never never.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
No, He'll be like, why the is you here? He
gonna be he gonna say, why is you here? Now
you know johnsonally don't want your ass here, you know.
But my man is a very respectful man. He's been
around all the ladies from the cabaret. He's a trusted
man and he's a real man. He will not swing
on the lady. And he's never swung on old lady.
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If he looks at the heat of the moment where
he might be screaming on their whole day making sure
that don't nobody else do anything to me. He gonna
always do that as a man, because that's what the
man is supposed to do, you know. And he's so strong,
he's got all the African power. If he's swings on
a lady, she's dead.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Look at that man.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
That man six feet sometime two hundred and sometimes. He's
a big, old strong man, you know. So he know
better than that. You know. He doesn't do it now,
you know, without talking about the incident. But you perform
that night I performed. That was my first time performing
at an arena. Shout out to let me for letting
me do that, because I asked let me, let me
let me well from the owners network, he put the
fight together and I was like, oh my gosh, let
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me can I perform there and he was like sure.
Speaker 10 (45:37):
I was like, yeah, how was that performance? Yeah, butterflies,
because I mean you perform.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I mean you not.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
I perform in my shows that people know my music
and they come to see me and pay to see me.
I never performed in a place.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Where they go you feel me.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
So that was my first time. So I was I
was nervous. But we've been practicing because I'm also filming
the Cabaret here in New York. So we been dancing
every day and it went really good. And then actually
the girls that I had just picked, four dancers that
I just meant in New York to dance with me.
So we we learned that routine twenty four hours prior,
and you trusted them and not even I mean, I
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gotta trust something if you want to If I wanted
to go well and it went well, look it would look.
Here's what I can't say. When I did my first song,
they were clapping about the rhythm and they clapping for me.
This is this is this is good stuff. These people
don't know. My mean said this. All people coming to
see people fight like them. All people don't be out
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there really just knowing what you know like the underground
artists on myself is really doing like yeah, they might
have heard my song, do it like if you'll be there,
I want to write in their in their grandkids you
know house or the children house.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
But not like that.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
But you don't know, you don't know, you could have.
You don't know if some of them old people was
probably leaving it like yeah whatever, but you never know
that would happened. I was like, oh, many fads, so
I was.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I was excited about that.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
I did like a three songs said because I only
had like seven minutes and thirty seconds, and I thought
it was great.
Speaker 10 (47:04):
Now when you drunk that night, because people asked were
you drunk?
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I had a lemonary youself. I always love to say
I wasn't drunk, but I would have one or two
drinks and for some reason, and I think, because I'm
not chasing it with any drugs, it just hits me
so much harder. Yeah, because I remember when I used
to be on my she could drink ten drinks.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
You know what I'm saying. I could drink ten drinks.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
But it's not like I tell my husband, oh my gosh,
I got a headache. How many drinks your hell, but
only I like to drinks. I was neay with a headache.
It's like it's like my brain just don't want to
go back.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
It's called age.
Speaker 10 (47:36):
That's what it's called.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
What you talking age? Get it called age.
Speaker 10 (47:42):
When we come back, we got more with Johnson and
there this is the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Good morning morning everybody to Envy, Charlomagne to God, we
are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 11 (47:51):
Were still kicking it with Jocelyn Hernandez. Jess Solaris is here,
Charlomage's out for a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Jess.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Okay, So how is your co parents and relationship with Stevie?
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I was that?
Speaker 3 (48:01):
How were y'all? I mean, you know, I don't really
never talk to him. He talks to Bonnie on the
phone and uh, you know, he says, sir, I have
I have primary custody of Bonnie. I have physical custody
of Bonnie, and uh, he's seen her life. He's you know,
he has the right to see her whenever he wants to.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
So I think I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Yeah, I think it's good. And you know, my husband
being with Bonnie since she was six months and he's
been taking care of her because I me and my husband.
When Bonnie was like six two eight months, it was
really she was like a like a little toddler, like
a little baby, not even a taller, she was a baby. Yeah.
And so you know she loves she loves my husband,
and you know she has a great relationship with her dad.
I'm sure she loves him too. So sure, I mean
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I think I think it's great. So she has two dads,
I mean I never put it that way because yeah,
all the time, it's just two dads.
Speaker 8 (48:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (48:47):
Now what made you do college?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Hill? Did you want to go back to school with that?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
One of it?
Speaker 10 (48:51):
Was that one of your dreams? Like I want to
can I.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Tell you something?
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yes? Really yes?
Speaker 3 (48:55):
And I told my husband, I'm like, damn, I got
the opportunity to go back to school.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
I never want.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
First of all, I didn't even fit high school yard.
I'm very smart though. I got ownership for always got ownership.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
Big.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
You gotta go get your g D first before you
are But you skipped the ged you went to college
that experience.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
So well, First of all, it was a great experience
because HBCU, a lot of people always see this is
something I need to clarify, maybe I need to do
it at the Breafast Club with Chatu because I've always
considered myself a black woman. But I was born in
Puerto Rico and I speak Spanish. My first language is Spanish.
But that's that that doesn't take away from the pack.
When I walk in the building, people look at me
and they say, that is a black woman, right, And
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so I always been cool and love to be a
black woman, and they'd be like, Afro Latina. No, I
don't have an afro. I don't have an afro. I
don't have an afro. And I am a black woman
that was born in the island of Puerto Rico. That's
space Spanish.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
And I teach my daughter, my daughter confused out of
somebody right now, but go ahead, but why because you're
Puerto Rican? I am Puerto Rican. But back to the HBCU.
In the HBCU, you know what I learned.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
I learned that the Puerto Ricans, the people that were
born in Pero Rica that were black too, and back
in the days, back in those days, they were definitely
Afro Latinos because they all used to wear you know,
the big the big here. But you know that the
Black African American and the Puerto Ricas. They were tight,
you know that when they were trying to do everything
with the freeing the Negro and stuff like that. That's
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the stuff that I learned at the HBCU in the Alabama.
You know, they were kind of telling us how the
black Spanish and the Black African American came together and
they were so much tighter than we actually are now.
But me, I considered myself culture. Yeah, I consider myself
a black woman that was born in Puerto Rico. Yes,
I'm Latina because of course I see Spanish and I'm Latin.
But for me, it's more than just saying that. For me,
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it's just that I'm proud to be black, whether I'm
Spanish or not. And I just feel like a lot
of people just have a problem with me being so proud.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
To be black.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
What's your with me proud that I have for this color?
Like what's the problem? And was that what kind of
like takes you off with Amber? Like because I kind
of seen that. It was like even like what happened
because I don't know what to what happened with I mean,
I didn't have the camera, I wasn't in the class.
She was like selling her, like, yo, like you don't
want to be black, you don't want to be black.
Speaker 10 (51:09):
I've seen you told am, but she didn't want to
be black.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
But I've seen previous you know, like it's been years.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Everybody.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
It's not no damn secret, you know. And but really
she you know, she she liked to dismiss the black
side of her.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
I mean, she wasn't lying. I guess that's just a trigger,
you know what I mean, you was lying. I wasn't lying.
I was lying because I wasn't lying, And you know,
I wasn't lying because we were talking about being black.
And I just have to let them know. You don't
want to be black. You came out of a big
black just like I did. My mama got a big
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old black pidy. She's a perto Rican woman, but that
lady black and her mama was blacker than the table
my mama. So I come out of black. You came
out of a black people. You don't want to you
don't want to say you're black. That's weird to me.
That's so weird to me. I don't care where your
color is. I always thought she considered herself black too,
Like I really seen that she was a Karen.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
When I got there, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
It was just pretty whoa.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
He said, that was crazy to find out that she
was a Karen.
Speaker 11 (52:10):
What do you mean Karen? Like she she did not
respect black rights. We like, because I didn't see that
the show. So I'm confused. So I want you to
tell me because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
You know what a Karen is. I do, But then
that's what she is.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
I'm telling you, yo, It's just not.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
The only one that say that. You can go so
it come up. It's just yeah, it was like it
was you were just saying that for the first time there,
but then that for the first time to her, like period,
like when she was getting upset about what I was saying,
the joke I was being ignoredt at school. Sometimes you
go to school, you would you want to be in Glasgow.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
I was just talking.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
I was like, man, I'm the biggest I got up
that day. I said, I'm the biggest man.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Then you got into a Philly in Miami scuffle. We
got a little scuffle. Listen that Joan is not from
the part of the Philly that you think she's from.
And yo, I don't it's not.
Speaker 10 (52:58):
Johnson practice that when that Joe, And mean, the.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Only thing I practiced is my bullet points that I'm
supposed to speak on. I don't practice nothing else. Everything
else is gonna always be me.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
And you should know that that John that Joe when
you know her husband.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Is to Philly. So you know, I know a few words.
Speaker 10 (53:12):
Really, I gotta ask you, big LEXI, I don't know that, Okay,
I really.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Want to know who she is.
Speaker 10 (53:18):
I didn't really know who she is.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
I don't know. I don't know that.
Speaker 10 (53:22):
I wanted to know what you know what we don't know.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
We don't know. We don't know her.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
I never knew, we never know her. No, I just know.
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (53:29):
I'm just trying to figure out because I know I
googled that. I seemed like that night I googled and
I seen and I was trying to figure out know
that I don't know. So I was gonna ask Love
and Hip Hop, would you ever.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Do it again?
Speaker 10 (53:39):
It seems like the ratings.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Literally I want to go do it. I want to
do it right now, please I right now, whoever charge
of love a hip.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
I come home at the Princess. I'm gonna come through ballistic.
Speaker 10 (53:48):
It's cool going on there and then having the family
and everything.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
Oh, no, accident.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
I don't listen Like look man, I'm already this farr
I'm I'm just gonna.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Say they need some more ratings, and I just I
need how to go ahead on over there? Man, what
you should I go to the one in Miami or
the one in Atlanta, Miami, turn up anyone she is
because I live in Miami. Please go to you.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
You gave you.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
You don't owe nothing else to Atlanta, and you you
already put that franchise on the missap I need you
to do Miami. I do I do her hoodie?
Speaker 8 (54:16):
Why not?
Speaker 10 (54:17):
Are you making money off the mook shot? They said
that you were put there.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
Everybody, get listen. Jocelyn Cabaret Tour dot Com. I should
have brought your something. Listen.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Why ain't wearing? Why warn't bring Jessica? Now?
Speaker 3 (54:27):
So you're selling I am and it's going to make it. Listen.
Can you please go download that there right there, because
you're gonna it go it look good. I had them
deluver time briefcase with the Louisverton shoes, and the louisver
Time glasses, the mud shot and and and the gene
Now for oh, I was flying is like it was show.
Oh yeah, babe, I thought I would say potty and
killing it. Yeah, thank you? So God got your T shirts? Yeah,
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Johnson discabaret to dot com you could go get them.
Speaker 10 (54:51):
Well, Johnson, we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 11 (54:54):
Like I said, I see you all the time, and
and you're so calm and so nice. But I ain't
gonna front you.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Gotta you. You might to get in boxing after this
is all. You might just want to just maybe even
you know a couple of them.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
Can I truly tell you something? If I didn't, if
I wasn't an autist and I didn't care about breaking
my face, I would do UFC. Oh yeah, I would.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
I do UFC. I want to box. I would do UFC.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
But I can't. I told my husband all the time,
and her I'd be like, I would do it, but
I can't because the first thing is going to break
on me is my nose and then it's over. But
she is so fixed she could set it up how
she want to set it up and she know, no,
that is not fair. No, that's why I said wrestling.
I mean because she can do wrestling and that that's
big money. No, I would do you break this just down.
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I'm a great fighter. You know what I told somebody
the other day, I said, because I told somebody, I said,
do you do karate? Don't? You ain't gonna do no
more karate than me. I don't know karate, but I
know crazy. I know crazy?
Speaker 1 (55:50):
You know? You know what's his name? Said that?
Speaker 3 (55:52):
What's the singer name, James Brown in the song? I
don't know karate, but I know crazy. You know James Brown?
Speaker 1 (55:57):
To you?
Speaker 10 (55:57):
I know that's right, ladies and general man. Oh, last
question is that your security go out there that I
was out there at the fight that night.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
You know what, I troubled with about twenty security guards.
Speaker 11 (56:06):
So I'm not sure you know which one I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the three pizza?
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Is that the one right there? The three pizza?
Speaker 3 (56:12):
And is it a slap slap test that they gotta get?
Speaker 12 (56:16):
You?
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Can? I say y'all to say y'all so funny? Why
is y'all so funny?
Speaker 10 (56:20):
When I see them? I noticed him before I noticed you.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
I said, it's like, no, we want to be like you,
good good, like that. I don't want to do acces that.
I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
They got plenty of money from the suits. They'll be
just fine.
Speaker 10 (56:35):
Right, we know that, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
It's Johnson, the Puto, Rican Princess, the biggest.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
It's the.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Donkey up today. By damn heg, it's time to donkey.
I mean, trying to be dunky today.
Speaker 7 (56:56):
No more.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm
not making these people do these days called Donkey of
the day, and it really caught me off guard.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Damn Charlamagne, who got the donkey out of day to day?
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Welless hilarious. Donkey of to Day for Tuesday, March twenty
eight was a double donkey. It goes to thirty eighth
year old Chief Chastain and the Clovis Police Department. It
comes a point in time in life where we all
must remember it takes to you. Okay, to you, all right, kids,
gather around your uncle Sharloh would like to tell you
about some things that have been going on since the
nineteen hundreds. Okay, One of those things is the saying
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it takes to you, okay, are it takes to you
to tango? That means that a situational argument involves two
people and they are both therefore responsible for it. I repeat,
it takes to you to tango. Means that a situational
argument involves two people and they are both therefore responsible
(57:51):
for it. It takes two. There's also a classic hip
hop record that will make anyone with a soul who
grew up in the nineteen hundreds and eighties lose their mind.
The reason I'm giving you this history lesson to day
is because in this donkey that I'm delivering, it absolutely
took to you. All right. See, Keith was arrested ten
times in one monff. I repeat, Keith Chastain was arrested
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ten times in one monf See y'all think I'd be lying.
Let's go to Fox twenty six News for the report.
Speaker 13 (58:18):
Police local law enforcement agencies say they are very familiar
with thirty eight year old Keith Chastain, who has been
booked in Fresno County jail not once, not twice, but
ten times in the last thirty one days. Chastain is
from Fresno, and it's currently facing eighteen felonies and fifteen
misdemeanors from his recent arrests. According to Clovis Police Department,
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his charges include stealing six vehicles, a dui, vandalism, fraud,
possession of controlled substance, and more. Clovis Police Department alone
says it has arrested Chastain six times in the last month.
Around nine thirty Tuesday morning, Clovis Police received a call
about a stolen truck that Chastain was suspected of driving.
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Police sayan officer found the stolen truck driving an old
town Clovis and followed it until more officers arrived. Officers
pulled Chastain over in front of Clovis Police Department and
arrested him without incident. Police say he was the only
person in the stolen truck and happened to be on
his way to pick up his personal property from Clovis
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Police Department. From the last time he was arrested. Mind you,
he was in a stolen vehicle.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Now. As you just heard, Keith Chastain was arrested ten
times by Clovis Police six times, okay, six times by
Clovis Police and four times by other agencies he was
in a stolen vehicle on the way to pick up
his items from the jail. Okay, Now, if he had
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gotten locked up by different agencies once or twice, I
would understand. But if you get locked up by the
s AIM agency the Clothes Police department six times, six times,
at what point does it become the police department's fault
as well for constantly letting you out? At what point
does it become a judge's fault for constantly grant you bail.
He's facing eighteen felonies in fifteen misdemeanors, with charges including
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stealing six vehicles, dui vandalism, fraud, possession of a controlled substance,
and a whole lot more. At some point, maybe after
arrest number three, possibly after arrest number five, surely at
arrest number six, someone at the Clovis Police Department has
to say, no need to let this man out, because
he's just gonna come right back. Okay. If the Clovis
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Police Department had a customer loyalty program like Starbucks or
Subway or Sophara, this man Keith would get his tenth
arrest for free. Okay, hit the rest of nine times,
get your tenth for rest for free. Clearly this man
has a boyfriend behind those walls. Either that or he
likes the food. Okay. When someone shows you who they are,
believe them. And this man Keif has shown us he's
a serial criminal. Okay, so give him what he wants,
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and what he wants is clearly zero bond, ten arrest
in thirty one days. Insanity is doing the same thing
over and over and expecting different results. So yes, Keith
is insane because he keeps committing crimes in the same
crimes and getting locked up. And the Clovis Police Department
is insane because they keep locking Keith up for these crimes,
the same crimes and letting them out. They both are
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to blame. So please give Keith Chastain a heat and
give the Clovis Police Department a hall together, because it
takes two to give them the biggest he hal. This
man wrote his name in jail, yo, that's why they said,
don't write you name. They don't write your name on
the walls in jail. You keep coming back to that jail.
Jesus the breakfast club morning, Everybody's dja envy Cholamagne to God,
(01:01:51):
we are the Breakfast Club. Of course, Jess Hilaries is here, yes, indeed,
and we got a special guests in the building, Dion Co.
Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Hello, Hello, hello, my brother. How's everybody doing?
Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Yes, yes, I'm happy to see you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I can't I'm just I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely, man, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yeah, absolutely a lot to talk about. You got Average Joe.
Are you you're in a new color purple too? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yeah? Okay, absolutely yeah yeah, new color purple, Average Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
We just talked about that yesterday. We were talking about
they just released the trailer. What's your thoughts on the movie?
Because we were like, Color Purple?
Speaker 10 (01:02:32):
Is that a movie that you do.
Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Hard to remake? Classics? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
So the director Blizz I don't know. He did Beyonce's
The Lion King where she was like han Jay. They
was like, uh, live action Lion King. Yeah, but remember
this video she had. It was like a twenty minute
video where she was like and cars and on the
beach running and Jay had these like suits and stuff whatever.
(01:02:57):
It was like very beautifully yeah yeah, all of that. Yeah, yeah,
he directed all of that. And so for him to
take that vis and then apply it to this movie.
It's like bananas. Plus it's a different spin on it.
It's a whole different spin on a color purple. So
it's gonna be way different than the other one. But
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still in it's all right, you know, holding up to
what it is. But I ain't really big on remakes,
neither like that. But but this one, Yeah, it's crazy
because it's a different perspective now.
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
That I was saying the twenty twenty three you can't
do color purple. You have to have to be woke. Yeah, yeah,
so much. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah, it's a whole different, whole different look on it,
a whole different span on it.
Speaker 11 (01:03:39):
But you know, some of the remakes so like I
didn't like Coming to America too, right, I just the
first one, which is classic.
Speaker 10 (01:03:44):
I don't touch that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't like There was another remake that
they did, but people told me white Man Can't Jump.
I didn't want to go see that, but people telling
me it's really really good, so I guess it can
if they come from a different perspective for a new
way House Party was another one.
Speaker 10 (01:03:56):
I didn't like it though, I didn't. I don't really
like that one.
Speaker 11 (01:03:57):
But yeah, when they do it from a different perspective
or shot. Well, I don't think there's a problem.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, I play our Fonzo, So I play Cee's father,
got when I take Philly.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
You can't have you can't have I can't remember, you
can't have her, but you can have.
Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, I play him kept. No, No, it's
it's different. Yeah, but you know you still you still
get it. He's still that dude got you.
Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Still call it ugly and woke away because of this
new era.
Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yo, Yeah I do. I do hate it definitely. That's
why I don't understand why people who don't like that
kind of stuff, Like why do you even come to
the shows? You're messing it up for the people that
really pay to come see in here, you know what
I mean? Like, why would you come in there with
your beliefs and feeling it's about something that I thought of,
And you ain't in my world. You ain't in my
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tax bracket, you ain't around the people I'm around, you
ain't not about my culture. But you come over here
and try to tell me what I need to be
saying and doing. It don't even make sense. So yeah,
I hate that that we have to kind of conform
to that. And I heard somebody say that in the
interview that we don't and if and it's not a problem,
and it is a problem. I think honestly, you got Lenny,
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Bruce and Richard and all these people who stood up
for us to be able to say whatever we want
to say, and now we can't. It's like, it's crazy
to take away from the whole thing. It's like, now
you go to comedy shows and they tell you what
they think you want to hear in order to be safe, right,
you know what I mean. But there's certain comics that
are still out on the front line that get loose,
you know, like Dave just don't give a note about nothing,
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you know. So you got great comics that's still out
here fighting for that that voice that we all have
and that people want to hear, except for certain people
that don't.
Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
So and your circumstances because you you definitely edgy on stage,
but then you got all the court.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Going on, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, I can't yeah,
I can't say exactly what I wanted to say. That's
what that's my whole life, sitting back trying to figure
out another way. That's what That's all I do. How
can I say this another way and still be able
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to say it?
Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
But you know, you to face an old Spice bro crazy,
Like that's why if you really think about it, it's
really wild. It's like time only think of two people.
The dude who used to ride the horse back.
Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Then yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah, it's crazy
right yeah. I couldn't even even when they came to
me about it. I was just like, wow, they can't
even say, hey.
Speaker 10 (01:06:49):
We want you to do this old Spice commercially be
the fake? What was your thought?
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
So at first they came to me and they was like,
I guess they have seen me do all these different
kind of like quirky like characters like on Angie, Tribeca
and Conan and Blackish, and I was doing all these
like trippy characters, and I guess they were like, yo,
it made sense where it was like yo, you come
in and yo we can all we can rock And
(01:07:13):
I was like yeah, I was like yeah I can
do that. So they flew me to Portugal, man, and
I shot all of this basically how old Spices get down,
you know what I mean? Like really wild in the woods,
beard growed and throwing trees and you know, I did
all of that, and then I came back to the
US and there's like they ain't they didn't want to
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use none of all of that and then use none
of it. And then they came to me about something else.
Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
And then me and.
Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
I, Me and this other guy, we was just sitting.
I mean this other guy, he was cute. He was
writing this whole new premise. And then when it came
to me about it, and I was like, man, that's cool,
and so we did it, and man, it took off.
You know, just me and my girl a Gap. Yeah, yeah,
we just we just got it.
Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Then.
Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Yeah, we just I went and grabbed Gap and was like, yeah,
they're thinking about this, this thing where it's relationship with
a couple and trying to take your old spice, and
you know, they was like, yeah, let's do it. This man,
we did it.
Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
And because it's a storyline, commercial story I was supposed
to be in one of them.
Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Sister.
Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Yeah he brought that up.
Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yeah man, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
They picked.
Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Like family member and it was know, you're here supposed
to tell me get your black ass hands on my
something and again because somebody else, they never would have
said that.
Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I cut the every time I see that, that's supposed
to be me. I'm serious, I'm supposed to be listening. Yeah. Really,
ain't gonna tell you. You know, you were at the top.
So when we come back, we got more with Dion Cole.
It's the World's Most Dangerous Morning short of Breakfast Club.
Welcome back to the World's Most Dangerous Morning short of
Breakfast Club. Charlomage the God just hilarious Dion Cole.
Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Now, Jess, So I want to know, are you doctor
because I saw you just you know.
Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like if somebody on the plane high
out they need a doctor, they're gonna be ass out,
but they ain't the doctor. But yeah, yeah, I just
got that, just gotragulation.
Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Clander Smith College, which is now about because you're in
the first city. Yeah, thanks man, it's.
Speaker 10 (01:09:44):
How did you for all the work that you did
and everything?
Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Yeah, absolutely, and uh paid for his Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I got an endowment at South Carolina State University, Okay,
made me an honorary doctor it is. And I get
a commitment speech.
Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Yeah, yeah I did too. It was I gave mine.
They really didn't give to what I was saying. I
thought I was dropping some gems sitting down there on
their phone.
Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I was like out there like this might have been
taking think, so do you keep going when you see that? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
It was I was bombing, like for real, like I was.
I was giving it and then it'd be like a
couple of chuckles, a couple of coughs, and then I
just keep going, like just going up to the next
topic or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
But yeah, yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I was thinking I was doing like stand up you
thinking in front of an audience like that, you're about
to be ripping.
Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
They was out there like, nah, I want to see
my baby cross and get her degree, and that's what
I'm here for.
Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
But that's standing up, muscled on kicking when you see
people like ignoring you because you know you you'd get
at somebody for that. Nah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Like nah, I'm I'm quick to leave.
Speaker 10 (01:10:56):
I leave.
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
I leave, man, I didn't up some shows. Yeah, I
try it and I keep going. If it ain't working,
I just know that I ain't for them, and I go.
I'm Trevor good Night. I leave A whole nother name.
Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
He's Outville Sunky joke coming out through it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah, yeah, I was Joe. Man. This this was thank
you so much. It was man, this was a labor
of love. It's like a darkly comedic drama takes place
in Pittsburgh. This dude, his father dies and these mob
dudes is looking for him and the Joe. He don't
know what's going on, but his father left some money
(01:11:50):
trying to figure out what's going on, and he had
to make these decisions between like you know, family and money.
But yeah, it's it's funny, but it's it's dark. I
can say, like we was leaving set miserable just from.
Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Being like a comic. You gotta you know, you you
can be good to do comedy, but.
Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Every day just to leave murdering, lying and de seaful
and heartache and losing people and every day leave you know.
That was the first time I started realizing I understand
how like people kind of break when they when they
do movies and stuff. That was the very first time
I used to be like, he ain't that deep into characters.
(01:12:31):
But nah, Like if you keep doing that and you
have to constantly be that person, do that like you
used to like, that's where on you. I used to
always think like like with Parc, they always say Park
became like yeah, he became Bishop from Juice or whatever. Anyway,
that's how that show was. Man, we was down there,
we were shooting in the lineup. Boy, it was like
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we was doing like sixteen hours sometimes twenty hours, you know,
shooting up. But we got a nice piece of work,
and man, it's it's gonna be something if y'all like
Murder and Mayhem. Absolutely yeah, yeah, you're gonna you're gonna
love this.
Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Your lead crazy the first time Crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
She's looking at you, talk about this amazing because even
as comics, we we can still we can play any part.
We can do anything. You always think of Robin Williams,
you know, the comics, especially going from comedy to Drive
and Jim Carrey and you know, even like what you
just say, like how you sixteen hours? You got a
status person and you got it. It's like you used
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to being, you know, but no, it's different. But the
fact that you can do it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Yeah, But it's like I remember when I when they
when when they when I took the job. Because usually
I'm I'm a type of cat. I go play my
part and I go get my drop top and we rolling.
Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Like, that's what I did on Blackets for eight years.
Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
I did my part, that was out.
Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
I was gone when I signed on to do this,
And seem like six he paid scripts and I'm in
like ninety percent of it. I'm looking right like I
got a real job. I'm like, I can't leave. They like, man,
the first one hair last to leave. You Like what
(01:14:16):
it was an adjustment because I still had other things
going on and other businesses and other projects and trying
to write that and do that and trying to do this.
I had to learn to I had to cut all
that out and just focus dead on this and get
it done. But yeah, being you got to watch what
you pray for. You gotta know how to pray. You
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know a lot of people don't know how to pray.
And you know, that was one of the things that
I learned. You know, a person to ask, man, Lord,
can I have a man? Can I have a woman?
And they'll get you one and they won't have a job.
Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
They won't have a job.
Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I forgot to ask for a job with that person.
Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
When it comes to comedy and drama, right, they always say,
it's a thin line. That's what the whole tears of
a clown can come from. Toether comic, you don't lean
into trauma.
Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Yeah, absolutely, that's that's exactly what I did, you know
what I mean. But it wasn't like that at first.
Like another another turning point, when we was doing the
Hearder They Fall, I was like I walked on set
and was like, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
What's going on, Hey, what's going on on?
Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Funny and comedian comedian? I remember Jonathan Majors and all them.
They was just all sitting back and doorl Roy Lindo.
They was all just quiet and just chilling, and I
was like, Hey, what's going on? And beyond Hey, so
we're going knock the South and we're gonna they was
just like And then when we werehearsed, they was just
like so like and like it was so real, and
so it just was like, man, I remember Jonathan told me,
(01:15:42):
he was like, man, you shouldn't acting is the worst
title for this job. This is what you should not
be doing. You should not be acting. You should become
you should become that person instead of acting. And so
it made me be like oh really, So then I
went back changed my whole demean up man, just from
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that conversation and came back and was like, all right,
we gotta we gotta just be calmness person. And I
remember that all the time, just becoming you know.
Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
And so when we come back, we got more with
Dion Cole, it is the World's Most Dangerous Mornings for
the Breakfast Club, The Breakfast Club. Welcome back to the
world Most Dangerous Morning. Sh to Breakfast Club, CHARLAMAGNEA God,
just hilarious, Dion Cole, what about when you're not in
the mind state? The joke all work like like like
did you give yourself time to grieve after your mother path?
Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
So I am like still dealing with that, Like that's
like really with me still, and I'm trying because I
was the only child, no father, Yeah, no, thank you man,
And I'm still like That's why I try to stay
as busy as possible because anytime I like have downtime
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or anything good happened, like that's with me because I'd
be wishing she was here, that she can like be
here and be a part of that. And people out
there that that's going through the state, they know what
I'm talking about, Like anything good happen to you. You
just it's like a bit of sweet moment, you know,
like even with the color purple coming out, I'm not
like in it like that, but I just wish my
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mama would have been there to see that. And you know,
it's things like that, even average Joe being the lead,
it's like, I wish my mama was here so she
could like see that and feel that because there's stuff
we talked about, even getting my doctorate, for her to
know that her son was now like doc having a
degree like that. It's just I would have like center,
(01:17:42):
you know what I mean. So anytime these situations happen,
it's like it's nice. But I also just getting to
like and people don't and people always be like you
need to go talk to somebody and something, and it's like, yeah,
you can do that, but this just happened to me.
Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
It's like, I don't know nobody who has something like
this can just happen to you and you go talk
to somebody and you all good. If anybody's like that,
they weird to me, like you should be able to agree,
like you said, and you should be able to have
these moments. And you don't rush people in these situations,
you know, just just be there for them, you know.
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And I had a lot of people leave me, Like
a lot of people leave me because I wasn't who
they wanted me to be when I was good. Your
mom just passed, come on, I know, but everybody left
and it was weird. And people out there that's dealing
with death and they know what I'm talking about, Like,
(01:18:40):
people leave you because you shain't And now I'm not
the person out out that that I was when they
met me. And I understand that. But if you're a
good friend and you really there, you're gonna you're gonna
understand the severity of this, and you're gonna understand that,
you know, being the only child, not having nobody else
and no mother, no father, nothing thing like that, and
(01:19:01):
that's gonna wail on you. You basically in the world alone,
you know what I mean, You really don't have nobody else.
I mean I got family, cousins and stuff like that.
But media, it's it's hard.
Speaker 7 (01:19:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
I go through it every day and I try to
try to be better, and you know, I try to advocate.
Tell everybody, Man, if you got your mother, your father,
any of that. Man, take pictures of them, video them,
talk to them. Even if you don't get along with them,
just be around them, man, because you just never know.
Because my mom died suddenly, was nothing wrong with just
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I came from audition calling her and they was like,
she didn't make it, and thinking that she was going
to an appointment. I was like an appointment.
Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
It's like, nah, she ain't make it.
Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
And I'm like make what You could.
Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Not understand that, Like, what do you mean she make it?
Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
They told me that. I just like, I was like,
I just talked to her, What are you talking about?
I ain't even want to, Like even with my Netflix special,
I didn't even want to do that. That wasn't even
something I was planning to do. But I got cornered
into shooting that special on that day, you know, like
the day that my mom died, September tenth, and I
(01:20:12):
was looking for a spot. Usually when you tour, if
you're about to shoot a special, you won't perform in
that city. So I was gonna do Philly. Philly was
city I was gonna shoot my special win, but we
were taking too long with the deal and I ended
up doing Philly right, and now I had nowhere else
to go, and I wanted to shoot. I thought about
New York, but I just was like, you got to
(01:20:33):
be from New York in order to do New York,
you know what I mean, Like it's New York is
just different, you know, It's like you got to be
from there. But when it came around to me shooting special,
Netflix is like, you got shooting September, and I was like,
make sure it's at the end of September because I
know I couldn't shoot around a year later from the
day my mom passed. They came back not even knowing.
(01:20:54):
They was like this, yeah, we got the venue. I'm like, man,
let's do it. I was like what day They was
like September tenth. I was like, I said nah. I
was like, I was like, I ain't gonna do it.
Then about the days later, my mom was like, you
know what, don't even mourn like that, like celebrate her.
Shoot on that day, dedicate this to her and celebrate her,
(01:21:15):
because when people pass man, you have to like make
them live through you. Of course, even if it's a password,
you know what I mean, if you get it, if
you set a password and you put their name in
every day you that's that's day. They stay with you
every day, you know what I mean. And so I
was like, you didn't password, No, I did not.
Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
I didn't know, but y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
And I just was like, man, I'm gonna shoot it,
and I shot it like on that day. But I
also was trying to show people and teach people that
with comedians and entertain us, even y'all, people don't understand
we we got problems and when we perform and you
never know what that comic is going through. So that
was a whole deal with my Netflix special. It was
(01:22:03):
that I wanted to perform without telling nobody what was
going on, and then at the end of the special
let them know I was up here rocking with y'all.
You're not even knowing what I was going through. I
just cried right before I walked out on stage. I
was backstage wiping my eyes, took a deep breath, and
walked out there, performed the whole special with them not
(01:22:25):
even knowing that this was like the one year anniversary
of my mom's death, and I wanted tend to see
that us performers, we had to put aside whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
We're going through you said something powerful that I would
like for you to talk about, just because that's something
I struggle with. How do you show up as a
friend when somebody had somebody that they lose that's close
to them, like a parent or significant other. Would you
have wanted your friends to do in that moment.
Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
So if I'm now different, and we ain't buying bottles
and kicking it, and I ain't none club, and I'm
now I'm in the club with you, but I'm but
I'm daydreaming and I'm zoned out, and I ain't helping
you pull all the women in the club and all
that or whatever. Now I'm boring to you. I'm not
what you was. If you're a friend, you're gonna be like, man,
(01:23:17):
let's get out this club. Let's go ahead, let's go chill,
let's go get you together, Let's go chill. If you're
any way different, even if I'm snappy, even if I'm
not understanding, if I don't hear you correctly at any
of that, understand that I wasn't normally like this. So
therefore you have to know that there's some kind of
issue going on with me, right, So therefore you have
(01:23:39):
to channel that and understand that and get to know
who I am now or who I'm about to be,
because now I'm embarking on.
Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
A new normal.
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
And that's what everybody has to do. It out there
and embark on a new normal for absolutely. And once
a true friend understand that, yo, he's he's embarking on
the new normal. And I have to be here to
learn that new normal in order to be there, to
be there for that, you know what I mean. So
once a person understands that, and they'll be there, they
(01:24:10):
won't leave you, and they gonna be there and they
gonna and they're gonna help you out and they not
gonna leave because all of a sudden you don't understand
them and all of that, and it's like it's it's
so whack or whatever. And I lost not only I
lose my mother, I lost like other family members and
friends and so it was very and I'm still in
(01:24:30):
that kind of lonely spot right now, you know, but
it's a lot better because I'm working and I got
all these other projects coming out and about the pop
and bubble and all that, and so it's taking up
my mind frame and you know, me working on a
whole New Hour, the tour with and all of that.
So you know, I'm not feeling as left out and
(01:24:50):
lonely no more, because you know, I got a lot
going on. But as a friend, that's what a friend does.
A friend understands that you changed, and they gonna change
with you, and they're gonna be there for you, and
they gonna find out how are you now, find out
what makes you happy?
Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
What makes you sad? Now you know, and they're gonna
be that for you, you know what I mean. But
falling back and and it's a selfish move, a lot
of people go because they go, oh, you're not making
me feel comfortable around you or and now it's about them, yeah,
you and not you, you know what I mean. So yeah,
it's it's a it's a trip that situation. And I'm
(01:25:28):
still learning, you know what I mean. And uh, and
the friends that I do have, Man, we've been rocking
and you know, we having a ball and we're gonna
keep it moving.
Speaker 10 (01:25:38):
We appreciate you, brother, and we love you brother.
Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
I love y'all man, and I thank y'all man for
this platform. I hate that it got serious.
Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Like always give the best conversations and I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
I appreciate y'all, man, and y'all keep doing, y'all doing
y'all very I just want to say, y'all, y'all very powerful,
more powerful than what y'all even probably thinking though, and
I want you all to understand that and keep doing
good with with with the positions y'all.
Speaker 11 (01:26:12):
Average Joe premiere June twenty fifth on B E T
Plus and thank you brother for joining us.
Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Thank you so much. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Y'all check it out.
Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
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