The Breakfast Club x Native Land Pod | LIVE Election Night Coverage at Harris Campaign HQ

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome home, y'all.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's native lampid here with the breakfast club.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
We are your host.

Speaker 4 (00:09):
I'm angela, right, Andrew gill Sippy cried Leonard McKelvey, d
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Speaker 5 (00:16):
Where we at? Where we at?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
HU got h not d A m V s h H.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, Howard person would say the real AGU But I
know I just represented for Howard HBC.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
You love tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
You got a lot of a love on the panel tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
We have before.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Actually we should do a roll call what we got?
He a you d Florida A and M University fam.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
You I have an honorary doctor from Wiley College.

Speaker 6 (00:44):
I got an honorary doctor from South Carolina State University.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
Bull dogs.

Speaker 7 (00:47):
The real hu Hampton University Delaware.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
State University is in the building.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, how much?

Speaker 5 (00:54):
How much student loan? Dead up here? Though? Let's talk
about that.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I ain't got nine. It's all out.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'll go.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And Obama was in you know what I mean. So
he took care of us. That was for real good,
isn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:06):
But now we're on the campus of the Howard University,
and I gotta tell you I think I was I was.
I was steel like tonight was gonna be significant in
the first place. But to have the first time that
a campus, a college campus is used in an election
night victory for any candidate for president over the history
of this country has never happened before.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
In the first time it happens.

Speaker 8 (01:27):
Yeah, it happens on the grounds of the historically black
college or university, the first for many, the founding place
for almost every Black Greek organization, and I think a
model for many HBC user around the country.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Just excellent academics.

Speaker 8 (01:41):
Excellent athletics, music, culture, access to government. It's an incredible school,
a great representation of HBC used.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Even that.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
What's happening here tonight. You know, we saw before we
came on Live with you guys, the homecoming court walked
down and we saw the young students in their crowns
and you know, their royal regalia, and I just it
felt like Wakanda come to life. And I think for
any of us who attended HBCUs you hear people say, oh,
I wish Wakanda was real. Well, it was real for

(02:10):
us here during that time, and I feel that here
tonight the Divine nine just did a universal step show
on stage and then there's a lot of strolling happening,
and I'm thinking about the people on the press risers
who don't look like us, who.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Are probably white.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
You ude, everybody like, what is going on on this sumthing.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Everyone's jumping around with excitement.

Speaker 9 (02:33):
They are jumping around for excitement for her, but also
it feels spiritual. Yeah, And I will just say, this
is going to be the blackest election I covered.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
You have today. This is a joy.

Speaker 9 (02:44):
It feels like a family union to be with y'all
and in such a remarkable place. I have watched Breakfast
Club soar politically like you guys engage and have talked
to so many candidates, and it was a necessary stop.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Now it's a requirement.

Speaker 9 (02:59):
You guys, for the first time are doing election night coverage,
and I gotta know how it feels.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
I don't know yet.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
I'm waiting to see it for praying grandmother's because I
believe in praying grandmother It's a whole lot of praying
grandmothers all across the country tonight.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
So we're gonna see.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
Because if things don't go the way we want them
to go, we're gonna have to think twice about the
prying grandmother thing. About that every you got every black
grandmother in America.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Praying right now everything?

Speaker 8 (03:31):
Yeah, everyone, yeah, come on now, yeah, God gave us choice.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Though you are confident earlier what happened, I'm still confident.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Okay, But where are we right now?

Speaker 6 (03:40):
Because people are texting my phone and people are saying
things like should we be paying it?

Speaker 5 (03:44):
I'm like, what are you talking about.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's early, early, early, Yes, that's right.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
The likelihood of us knowing who the next president is
tonight it's really slim. You'll recall in twenty twenty, we
didn't know until the Saturday after Tuesday's election, and so
I would tay her expectations here that.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
We, well, I will know somethings.

Speaker 8 (04:03):
Even if we don't have the total results from every state,
certain precincts performed certain ways and states. For instance, in
my state, I can tell you where the redwoods are going,
the super ruby redwood will be, and if they are
less than that, if the red is not as dark,
meaning it's a light peak, which means some of those
voters in those red districts have gone over and voted
blue in those places, diminishing the power of the Republican voters.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
So Day County came through for Trump today tonight, though.

Speaker 8 (04:30):
Day County has come through unfortunately the last three four cycles.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I just want to.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Say that I asked the breakfast club folks how they
felt about it.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
They went good. They're talking about it, but no.

Speaker 9 (04:41):
Only one talked about it.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I want to make sure.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
I want to say this. It's it's a feeling that
I've It feels like a family. You and You're like
Laarning and I went on the yard we were partying
with with the students, with the alumni. And it's not
just Howard University students, just all HBC. We've seen people
from FAMU, we see people from North Carolina, A and T.
We see some hamp University people, some Morgan State people
and they're just excited. They just they feel like they're

(05:07):
scene finally. Yeah, and uh, it's a great opportunity just
to be there with them, like it's like no other
Like I thought it was like homecoming, but this is
better than a home So I'm really enjoying the moment.
What about you, Lauren?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I know I had ran into.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Look like you know what drinks.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
When you do you too much? I'm not I can't
act up because Angela right up here.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
When that that, I look like, yeah, I gotta be
careful to get back. Okay, anyway, I had I was down.
When we were walking back from the yard, I saw
April Ryan. I was like, oh, my god is abral Ran.
Then I was like, i'mnna go around and said hi
to her. And when I went over and she was
and we were talking, she came up here. She said
the same thing. She was like, media, black media, feel

(05:57):
scene because it's like they in our home right now,
anybody who doesn't look like us tonight we got to
explain what has happened is breaking down. You know, she's
been on the hill for a very long time. She's
been holding it down, and a lot of times she
goes to battle with people who don't look like her.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
So she's like, oh, it's reversed now.

Speaker 9 (06:11):
She was literally the only black representation we had in
the White House pastry for a long time.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
So you are watching black history, yes, Lauren, we love it.
So one of the things that I think.

Speaker 9 (06:23):
We should address is this whole electoral college versus popular voting.
A lot of people I've been asking questions about that.
We got some smart folks up here who're taking it
on Tiffany Cross, look like you're ready.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, I honestly think that is something I'm looking out
for tonight, and I think there it will be. I've
long said on NLP that I am anticipating political violence.
I think the violence will happen in the courts, and
I think there will be violence in the streets. Already,
we've seen fake electors in Wisconsin, people who have been
election deniers put in positions of authority. Will see tonight

(06:55):
if Republican governors who did not if the election results
did not go their way, will they certify result? We
are at a time well, we don't know, We'll see.
We are at a time where we are really questioning
will people accept election results they don't like?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Now.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I will point out the slithering example out of Georgia
when Donald Trump did ask the Secretary of State there
to find him eleven thousand votes.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Those Republicans said no.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Right now, the election deniers have been elevated in their
roles of power when we saw the insurrection here in Washington, DC,
in the nation's Capitol on January sixth. This is a
unique space. We have over thirty plus law enforcement agencies.
When you consider electors out in some of these jurisdictions,
they don't have that same level of protection.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 7 (07:38):
Can you break down for like even my kids wanted
to know, why did they have an electorial college? Why
was it created? Like everybody says the popular vote for
shou win, But it was created for a particular reason.
Can you explain why it was created for people that
don't know?

Speaker 6 (07:51):
Yes, it was about it, that really is.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
What it was. The enslaves were offically used.

Speaker 8 (08:00):
Well, the electoral college was put into place because they
feared the or populated states, the bigger states, the New
York's of the time, the Pennsylvania's of the time, would
basically use their populations, the Bigfoot, all of the agrarian areas,
all the farmers. These are the planting class, the people
who had the money.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
They the thing.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
They were mostly Southern states who were afraid that Northeastern
states populations would would take them right, so they the framers.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
We didn't have Confederates yet, the Framers of the established
that they would appropriate based off of.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
Populations and then allotting respective states to receive votes that
they would then cast those votes in an electoral College
convention for whoever would be president.

Speaker 9 (08:51):
I just I do want to point out that they
did not have the Confederacy, but they had Confederate mentality already,
and it absolutely electoral college is a vestige of avery,
and it's absolutely racistic.

Speaker 8 (09:02):
So it preceded slavery, that's not it preceded slavery's ending.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, yes, the country don't see.

Speaker 8 (09:14):
But ever having to give votes to black people didn't
consist of this.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
And they split over the fact, didn't some of them
want the popular vote? But then somebody wanted Congress to
be able to decide the president.

Speaker 8 (09:25):
They wanted electors, They wanted the people to inform who
the delegates would be to the convention to decide the press.

Speaker 7 (09:32):
So why can't we get rid of it now?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
That was a constitutional.

Speaker 8 (09:37):
Republicans will allow basically the Electoral College to be demolished
because they have for power that more power into that system.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Iowa, none of us are moving there.

Speaker 8 (09:47):
That state will remain what it looks like, and therefore
they're going to continue to be able to bigfoot over
states like there's no reason California, Uh that basically half
the vote that comes out of the state means nothing.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
And big a deal with the Iowa poll this week
that came.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Out, big ass deal.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
Okay, it's a big deal because the last president to
win the state of Iowa's Barack Obama.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
And again at that time it was by close margins.

Speaker 8 (10:11):
They were just polled six months before and Donald Trump
had a twenty seven twenty seven point lead. To look
now and see that she crept up to potentially three
points ahead of him in a three point you know,
margin of era is incredible, and it's likely because of
the abortion bad that was implemented in that state has

(10:32):
had now almost seven six months at ago.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
And people don't like what they're seeing.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Right, But you know, we're saying it's incredible, and yes,
it is incredible in terms of what we know about
the country. But I want to punctuate that point with
its fucking incredible that she is in competition with this
half witted man. Yes, everything he has done, the fact
that the race is this is close is a travesty.

(10:57):
I'm so proud as a black person, secontally a black woman,
to see the most qualified woman who is working every
branch of government, the executive, the legislative, while she hasn't
worked in the judicial but she was on the Senate
Cristionary Committee, so yeah, right, she had yes, precisely, so
she had a role in the judiciary branch as well.

(11:18):
This man has no plans, no experience. His first job
in government was as President of the United States. And
the race is this close. So I trust that America
will do the right thing tonight. But I've been saying
either way, America will get the president they deserve tonight.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yes, that's what I was gonna ask you.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
So with everything that you just said, right, it being
that close, when Kamala wins, what is she up against?
Because we talk about a lot about like, no, you
still got to challenge your person that you want to win.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
You still got to what is she up against?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Because there's a lot of people because that margin is close,
that are like she shouldn't be there. What does that
look like? What does the first day out look like?
First week out? Well, she's gonna have to use her
executive power on day one. We'll have to see what
the legislative rants looks like. Will democrats right, what will
democrats control? Will democrats control the Senate? Will democrats control
the House? I will will jump out and say I

(12:10):
think Democrats will take the House, which will give us
another historic position in making Congressman from Brooklyn Hakim Jeffries
the first black Speaker of the House, the first black
male Speaker of the House.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
So I can.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Imagine that there are some pockets of conservative America that
will lose their mind, and I think she will be
if the If the Republicans control the Senate, it can
be a deadlock. I mean, because that is the courts,
that's where you confirm justices. So it can be challenging.
On the other side of that, though, she will also
have to confront demands on the left. She's made some
strange bedfellows in bringing coalitions together this cycle, and she

(12:46):
has extended herself to Republicans. She has promised Republicans positions
in the Cabinet. She's promised to have a bipartisan legislation.
And so I think on our side, as people who
support her, for sure, we still have to hold her
accountable to our agenda. And there are people who want,
for sure absolutely uh ceasefire in Gaza. She's gonna have

(13:07):
to deal with that. The Black Man agenda that she
put out, that was a plan. I want to see
it executed, so she she will have her hands full.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
I want to ask you about that if if if
she loses, which which I don't think she will, I
don't know, but what would that be a testament to like,
do big do big tent politics still work? Or should
you be focusing on niche groups? Because she brought together Republicans,
She's brought together progressives, She's brought together you know, black men,
Latino men. If do big tent politics still work or

(13:37):
should be focused? Should you be focused on I think that.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Is big tent politics to focus.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
If she loses, though, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
No, I think should should she lose, which again I
don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Should she lose, I would.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Say that, Uh, the country has shown yet again that
they do not want a black woman as president. Even
when you see a lot of the exit polls and
you're asking people what are your issues that you care about,
and you have people in Wisconsin and immigration, what is
your big immigration?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
And with immigration issue in Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
That is subtext to me for I don't want these
black and brown people taking over the country. I think
we have to look ahead and start moving in conviction.
By the year twenty forty four, there will be no
racial majority in this country. So I think big ten
politics includes all of us. And this is the time
that we're seeing what does a government that is for
the people, by the people of the people look like,
what it includes all of us? Before we would have

(14:29):
to wait what the white folk's gonna do, how they
gonna vote, I think we have to let go of
that frame of thought, and I think this election tonight
will show that is an antiquated way of thinking and
moving forward, we finally have the privilege to vote with
our convictions and not wait to be led by the
white voting block of this country.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
Charlam Mane, I think the last time we're in the
last stages of why big tiic politics.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Big tich politics explain people that you're right.

Speaker 8 (14:53):
So typically, if you're a Republican, you can rely on
the fact that the color of your skin is large
going to be the prerequisite to you being a member
of the party. That's why it is the whitest party
of the two party system. Democratic side. Our coalition is
built up in order to get to fifty plus one,
which is half plus one person or one vote.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
You've got to be able to if the color of our.

Speaker 8 (15:15):
Skin is not the thing that unites us under one party,
because we're not enough. We may get eleven percent of
the population, we need the other forty whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
To get us over.

Speaker 8 (15:24):
And so if the Democratic Party has to get a
slice of the Latino community, we have to get a
slice of the white female vote. We even have to
earn a slice of white male votes. And our coalition
right now LGBT go beyond that and list all of
the others.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's what the party's made up of.

Speaker 8 (15:40):
And it's politics is about that complex because you got.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
To meet everybody where you know where their need is.

Speaker 8 (15:47):
And unfortunately, right now, the white majority, the white conservative majority,
is still quite frankly close to fifty one percent. So
they could vote together and still be able to hold
this then, but soon, and you've already pointed out, it
won't be enough to just say we're in community because
we're the majority, because we're all white. You're gonna they're

(16:09):
gonna have to do and say more to bring more
people their direction or for them.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
To win elections.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
I'd like to ask y'all as a calling show, you
get the voice from from the American people very directly,
almost every single day, and I love to hear. When
did the tenor of your listeners begin to shift to
a place where it was no longer just skeptical of
a Kamala Harris, but it began to really embrace what
a Kamala Harris presidents could look like.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I don't even maybe that's on the other side they have.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
I still didn't you're not convicted. I still didn't feel
that totally yet.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Now I can tell you when it happened for me personally.
When if I remember when it was first anounced, I
was talking to Charlamagne about it. I didn't I was like,
I don't know if this is the way, Like I
was nervous because I felt like she had been pushed
to the back behind Biden. I mean, she's be paid,
so like you know, she has to be there, but
I was like, I don't know if the push can
be strong enough because it was just it was such
a great cloud over it.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
And then that first day I was like.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Oh, like this was the answer the whole time, Like
right here I saw the way that the world was
reacting to her, and it's the momentum and I felt like, Okay,
if she really knows her stuff what she does, if
she's really qualified, qualified, what she is, she has the
background when she does.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
All she need is the platform people, And I was here,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
I think people realize when when I think people started
not liking Joe Biden, when they started seeing I would
say early signs of dementia where he just didn't seem no.
I would say that, and I think people that was
the truth. That's what I seen said. I was like,
the man ain't got dementia. I wish y'all was stopped up.
So it's given that's something that we don't know. There

(17:41):
was something happening.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
And it wasn't right, and I think a way out.

Speaker 7 (17:45):
And when they see Kamala I think it was like, wow,
she is what people are saying, and then we needed
to talk to When you start seeing her speaking and
see who she is, I mean, he's not wrong.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
It was when that money started coming in, when she
raised all that money.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I'm trying to tell you she locked up the delegates
and third, yeah, I'm like, I don't know, people realize,
like this don't be happening.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Like a black woman is like yeah, well, you guys.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
Speaking of big tints, I think it's really important for
us to recognize there was a big tint on the
stage that that was there was a powerful moment and
its display of black unity. Normally you see these folks
as step shows, and it's a battle. It's a full
on battle. It's a full on battle. And today we

(18:28):
have them joining us. It is the d nine. Everybody,
the Divine Nine, line up behind us.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Y'all, come on, come on, come on, got the Alphas.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
The Kappas, the Delta right here the road a zada. Hey, hey,
all right, y'all, you guys can line up in fans.
I'm missing rep around and line up in front. Just
watch that fone. Honey, there you go. You're all good.
They all can't feel in right here. I gotta so
we we I'm gonna pass this.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Mic is on. I'm a pass show all this. Mike.
Talk to us about how you're feeling tonight.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's on?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yes, okay, okay, here we go. It's on? Is it on?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's on?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
She didn't hear it? Begin Oh The question was how
are you all feeling tonight? We're good, We're feeling very excited.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Tell us your name of where you're from. My name
is Imani Smith. I'm from Los Angeles, California.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
All right, West Coast. All right, tell us how you're feeling, y'all.
We have another mic? Where is it?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Leonard?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Check? Check check?

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Now you can just pass them down. Yes.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Hello. My name is Jamari Robinson.

Speaker 10 (19:36):
I'm a junior Criminology in Pluba Science double major Military
Sciens minor from Columbus.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Georgia, by Publicish, Florida. And I feel great tonight see
history be made. All right?

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Hello everyone. My name is Lauren Marshall.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I'm a senior health Sciences major from the biggest city
in the best city, Chicago, Illinois.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
All right, Hi, everybody. My name is Aarria Jones.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I'm a junior Human development major from Atlanta, Georgia.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Hot Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
My name is Taylor Beard.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I'm a junior Journalism major Business Administration minor from seven Maryland.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Hey, gentlemen, it also got the mic. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Hi.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Branda McCaskill, UH, junior finance major from Detroit, Michigan.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I feel extremely excited about tonight.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
I think we're all very very proud of our university
and the products of it.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
And you know, thankful to be here for sure.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Thank you great?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Right you're bossing up? Uh huh, yep, yep. Hello.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
My name is Kirsten Branch and I am from Houston, Texas.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Alright, h town.

Speaker 7 (20:34):
Alright, next, fello.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yourself?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Where are you from?

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Where you from? Hi?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
My name is Mikaye Manuel.

Speaker 7 (20:43):
I'm a junior sports medicine major psychology mine from Queens.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
New York Queens Radio.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
All right, Hello.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
My name is Jay Armont.

Speaker 11 (20:50):
I'm a senior journalism major Business administration minor from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
What's up, y' all? My name is Joshua Jean Louis.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
I am a graduating senior music education major classical voice
miner from Houston, Texas by way of Blackfia, Louisiana. Or Hey,
hello everyone. My name is Devin McDaniel.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I am a senior finance major from Trenton, New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
All right, by that, do we get everybody? Hello? Everyone?
My name is Kalia Leech.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
I am a senior Public relations major Sports administration minor
from Baltimore, Maryland.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Mike Ovin, Hello, my name is Brice Facey.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I'm a junior science major.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Buys your minor from Berkeley Heights, New Jersey.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
How you doing.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
My name is Jordan Newsome.

Speaker 12 (21:35):
I'm a senior Biology Honors major chemistry miner from Brooklyn,
New York.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh. New York is heavy over here, everybody introducing.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Hello everyone. My name is Chase Cubia.

Speaker 10 (21:44):
I am a junior finance major from Grand Raperts, Michigan.

Speaker 11 (21:48):
I think last, but not least, Hey, guys, my name
is Dylan Thomas. I'm a senior business major from Houston, Texas.
Happy to be here.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
All right, let's give it up for the Divide Night.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Welcome, y'all.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Kamala Harris selective is feeling about the night.

Speaker 11 (22:04):
There's hope and there's fear. I think maybe equally so
of both. But we're choosing to stay optimistic no matter
what we're seeing because we've been over here with you guys,
so I pray that everything is going well. But I
think that with democracy on the ballot, it's super important
that we have somebody that is standing as a beacon
of hope in the same way that hopefully we're.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Able to be.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I love it. Well, thank you guys so much for
joining us.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Let's give it up at the Divine Night, all right.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Well, thank y'all so much.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
We are going to be watching and praying with y'all,
and we appreciate you joining the native lampard of.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
The breakfast cluf see you soon.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
Alright, all right, I gotta ask you guys. You guys pledge, No, no.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
There's no greed.

Speaker 13 (22:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
My brother is a member of five Sigma.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I was and gold.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
All right, you don't pledge.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
You said, Hampton is the white y step.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
They want to step.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
You said there want to stand. We thought that I
thought I wanted to step.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
My bad dud.

Speaker 9 (23:11):
Don't gout out and bring me Barry, our good friend
from the d n C who brought over the divine
come over this way that I feel like the bight
end is better.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Watch that phone, honey, that's what I'm saying. I didn't
want you to go fall. Yeah, that's our connection to
the to the Okay, So while they're taking southeast, we
are back with live coverage. If you're just now joining us,
we are live at the Mecca at h U Howard
University in Washington, DC, where Kamala Harris is expecting to
address a very large, lively step dancing crowd tonight. So anyway,

(23:44):
we are back at it, and we were talking about
how we're feeling.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
We asked the young people.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Any numbers, any numbers?

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well right now?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Should we even be looking at numbers right now?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, that's the thing, you know, I can't help it.
You get like little increments of numbers coming in. I
don't know that we'll see. They will announce on the
screen over there, so we'll see when they start projecting
states for.

Speaker 7 (24:06):
Any I'm here him chering. That usually means we have
some to say.

Speaker 9 (24:11):
And then I think the other thing to know is overall,
if maybe we can talk overall vote count. Harris right
now has twenty six million, nine hundred and sixty undred
twenty eight votes. Donald Trump has thirty million, one hundred
and seventy nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety three votes,
and others other candidates have a seven hundred and forty
five thousand plus vote, So that's a significant.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Number for for the others.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, DC
have all been called for Kamala project. She's projected to
win those states, and Mississippi certainly started at the top here.
She's expected to win Delaware too, all that Eski Delaware. Yeah,
I'm sorry, honey, You're I voted for her in Delaware, so.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
You said I made that?

Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yeah? Oh God, happening.

Speaker 9 (24:56):
Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, can Tucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, Oklahoma,
South Carolina. Way to go in our South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas,
West Virginia, and.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Wyoming have all been projected.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I wonder if I have because in Delaware, are we
also stan to get another black woman like a senate
Senator Lisa Blunt Rochester. Has that race been called? Do
we have data on that?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
I don't see that. Well, I'm gonna twitter.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Y'all got the official here with her, a Senator Lisa
Blunt Rochester, assuming that will happen, another call on that.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Lisa yes has been called.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
With fifty six point four percent of the vote, she
is officially a senator.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
She will be what she's sworn. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
And and Maryland, you also have another black woman points
to go to the Senate and that has.

Speaker 9 (25:43):
Not yet been called. But she it looks like she's
winning right now. She's leading with uh fifty percent of
the voter in fifty five point four percent to forty
two point six percent. I don't know why it's not called,
but she's got y former Governor Larry Hogan in Maryland,
Republican governor that she's squaring off again. So if you
can't see what's happening behind us, there is a massive

(26:05):
crowd right here on Howard's campus who are excited.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
Thousand people agree.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
It's the sea of us and it looks beautiful.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
I think they've been serving food, Tiffany, because everybody over
there got quiet and still they.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Were all kinds stuff that is true.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Maybe they all went to Chick fil like you, or
maybe aunts they maybe Lenard is projecting.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
There was. They weren't dancing.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
They were going like the wobble.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
They've been here for a long time. They've been there
for at least five to six o'clock dancing from five.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Tired, so well they stay here the entire time.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Yeah, she will speak tonight, right regardless.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yes, she will come out and address the crowd at
some point. But again, I you know, I don't think
that she will be able to declare anything tonight, And
even if she were, I wonder at least if we
can confirm that Senator Lisa Blunt Rochester is a senator.
Angelas said that, but I want to shout out Lolo
on the side.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I don't know what she could hear. She might not
be able to hear us. Yeah, she needs some hand phone.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
She needs some handphones immediately because she didn't hear us
call that rest already.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
But thank you.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Well that's the case, we miss it, So thank you.

Speaker 9 (27:13):
You know what I'm gonna tell you guys, and they
they're probably gonna laugh at me crazy.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
I'm an optimist. Okay, what I do?

Speaker 7 (27:20):
You know?

Speaker 3 (27:20):
He keeps I thought she said, I'm driving. Well, I
was just gonna say.

Speaker 9 (27:24):
When we did our live show from fam you on Friday,
we have the state director from Harris for President on it.
She said she thought that Florida would surprise us, that
she thought it was trending in the right direction. But
I gotta tell you this is not the right direction.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
That's so kind of you.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I didn't. I didn't think Florida.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
You know, Florida for the people out there who are
are younger and may not remember, Florida used to be
a purple state. Uh, it was a swing state. You
didn't know which way it was gonna go Ohio.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Same thing.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Used to be a swing state, and now they're not
the political jagernauts that they once were. Florida is solid red,
Ohio is solid red. Has gone Republican in the past
I think four election cycles. So we are really looking
at a brand new electoral map here tonight. And it's
crazy because the entire landscape the map has been thrown
out since twenty sixteen. I know we have our brother

(28:17):
here from Florida tonight, But Leonard, you'll recall how I
feel about Florida.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
At the din of country.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Wait, what excuse me? The country?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Oh, I was just that caught me off guard.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I did well, there actually is data around Florida, I
mean really has around Florida.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yes, yeah, I would tell you why I did not.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I will tell you why because it has become a
safe haven for white supremacists. If you look at activity
down there, the FBI has already documented and confirmed that
the greatest domestic security threat is white supremacy, white supremacy groups,
and that is largely concentrated in Florida, so much so

(29:02):
that there was a challenge in the punitive system down there,
in the prisons where the prison guards were also members
of white supremacy gangs and abusing the prisoners there. So
it's prevalent in every part of government in Florida. So yeah,
Florida can get castrated except for Andrews.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I mean, so I'm only picking of every other sentence.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
Paul la was saying, you know, the craziest people in
America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Tiffany
want to castrate the whole Florida. What were you able
to do in Florida, Andrew that was different than other politicians.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
One, I don't think Florida is solidly gread.

Speaker 8 (29:37):
I think they have beat Democrats into submission in Florida.
You know, when you win so much of you then
win and you change the laws to favor you. Uh,
it's hard to compete in the system that is so
terribly imbalanced, right, But in our race, I mean we
had to literally, I mean I spent two years knocking
on doors and talking to people who don't get talked

(29:59):
to and follow tics to convince them one that the
government was something that should work for them, and two
that if I get elected, if it isn't a government
that serves you, We're going to bend it so that
it does and if it doesn't bend, then we'll break
it and we'll start again so that it meets your needs.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
And I think we were able to convince.

Speaker 8 (30:18):
A lot of people that that vision was possible. Now
Republicans again, they've taken the state. If you walt Disney World,
the biggest corporation in the state of Florida, and the
governor literally kicks your teeth in and sets an example
for any other corporation in the state.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
If you step.

Speaker 8 (30:34):
Outside of line, like the Gestapo outcome and get you,
then you start to quell a lot of opposition voices
under that environment. That's exactly what Trump wants to replicate
in the country. He wants things to happen because he says,
so something have happened.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
If somebody did text me and they said, Iowa, I
don't know, they didn't give me.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
No com hold on, I'm a refresh refresh if that
were Iowa, that we'd be deafening sound right now.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
Maybe and they just said, I'm gonna tell you guy,
right now, I see one minute.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
If though, Kamala Harris will back and.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Said what happened? But they ain't text me back yet.

Speaker 13 (31:09):
I don't have it.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Call said that Trump is a narrow but cliff favorite
to win Georgia and North Carolina. If he does carry
those states, Harris would need to sweep Michigan, Pennsylvania, and
Wisconsin to win a real possibility with a tall order.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Nonetheless, it is a tall order. But I think she
she'll hold the blue.

Speaker 9 (31:25):
Wall they call it some states. This is frustrated. We're
at also behind us. They're like, let I tell you
she won New York. That's called and I think, okay,
that's what I was. That's what I saw a minute ago.
But I didn't know if Yeah, that's called Rhode Island.
Did I say Rhode Island?

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I killed? I mean, let me, let me use my
little handed danda. Vice President Harris now has ninety nine
electoral votes, Okay, one hundred and seventy eight, oh so minus.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Still it's about one hundred short of uh.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
And the poles still haven't closed on the West coast.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Correct, No, all, but none of the battlegrounds have come right.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
None of the battlegrounds that matter for Kamala Harris have
come in.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
Well, it looks like Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, of course
is still out.

Speaker 7 (32:09):
Let me ask you guys a question for the younger
people that are watching right now, why would they want
to jump into politics? Right because you look at politics
and you see that they go into your life, They
attack your family, they attack your values, they attack your morals,
they make up stuff. Why would somebody young, why would
you tell them it's a good reason to get into politics.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I think I'm stealing from my brother Andrew here, but
I think one thing that white supremacy has done Andrew again,
these are Andrews words that I'm stealing, But they have
captured our imagination. They have taken our ability away to
imagine what democracy would look like if we are its architects.
And so the same thing that we tell people about voting,

(32:50):
you try to give people if you stop ten young
people and say, okay, you're in charge of this five
block radius. You in charge of when the trash picked up,
You in charge the way they go to school. You
in charge of how to school looks. You in charge
of how much taxes people are going to pay, and
to keep all this functioning. You get to run all

(33:11):
of that. That's why you go into politics because you
get to shape what society looks like when it includes you.
And so if you give it to people that way,
where it's a blank wall and you can be the
architect of democracy, how do you want to shape it?
That's an incredible amount of power and an incredible amount
of privilege. The question is do you want to rule
or do you want to lead? If you want to lead,

(33:32):
this is the perfect time to get into politics. And
I would encourage young people to do. And you don't
have to be the candidate. You can be a campaign manager,
you can be a fundraiser, you can be you can
work on a campaign if any of these numbers, a
communications director. There's so much that that can impact political campaigns.
What would you say, Andrew, because you actually were a
candidate and what made you I mean, e's been elected

(33:53):
that you were what eighteen?

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (33:54):
I mean, well, the last time I lost an election
was third grade and from that point all the way
through until I was forty, you know, forty one years old,
I held the elective office. And for me, I almost
think it's an instinct that when you see something that's wrong,
that you don't like, and it frustrates you so much
to see it wrong every day in and every day out.

(34:18):
The people who are different are likely to figure out
a path to how it is that they shift that
thing that brings them annoyance every day. And if that
annoyance is greater than an annoyance means your livelihood, meaning
you're sick of watching your mother struggle to pay rent
or mortgage, or your father, you know, who suffers some
from alcoholism because of his frustration on the job that
he can never move up, then the urgency around how

(34:41):
you shift the system becomes that much greater for you.
So for me, it almost felt like a reflexive instinct
that if the shit ain't right, then you do something
to make it right.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
But how does it make you feel when you you know,
you started so early, you did what you were supposed
to do, you follow the rules, And then you see
somebody like a Donald Trump, who really wasn't a politician
from nowhere, show signs of racism to me, and all
the different things grabbing by the pussy and all the
things that he be said, and it seems like people
just say it is and they're letting him as president.

(35:12):
I mean, now he's going against Kamala Harras, that just seems.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
I think beds fellows. Bedfellows you know, get to bed
very strangely sometimes. And in his case, it's so much
easier to unite the people around a fight against extinction.
Like if you feel viscerally that everything you know love
about a place and that you want your child to
grow up in and also experience about a place, yes,

(35:38):
you're gonna fight heaven and earth to keep that thing
for them because you think it means their future, their
future prosperity. If I had a guarantee that if I
voted this way, my children's life would be better, they
would experience it better, and you'd have a guarantee that
was the case. I'd be blindly Republican too if that
was the party offering that right.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
But let me ask you, Angela into how do you
deal with the fake news so much? Because people, you know,
this is one thing that Charlamagne and Lauren will say,
people call the radio and they don't know what's true
and what's not right. You know, we say look it up,
but when they.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Google half the time.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
What you're looking for, so they don't know how to
find what's proper.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
They hear a candidate and the candidate is lying, say
they don't know who they should agree. So what do
you tell those people? Because they are trying to do
their homework. They are trying to do their research, but
a lot of the research is ps.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I you know, people will disagree with me because they
say you can never blame voters, and I'm probably a
unique voice in which I will sometimes blame voters. It
is a responsibility to participate in democracy. So people who say, well,
I don't know how Vice President Harris feels, or I
don't know where she stands on something, her plan is accessible.
You can literally go to her website and see where

(36:46):
she stands. You can go to Donald Trump's website and
see where he stands, and you can make an informed
decision about which candidate speaks to you. Now, when you
pull out larger and just look at the media landscape,
you know, I've been navigating newsrooms for twenty four years
of my life. It has been incredibly frustrating envy. I
will tell you, my heart is breaking watch uh to
watch journalism die a slow death. And the challenge is

(37:08):
because there are so many people in newsrooms who don't
look like us, who are willing to extend humanity and
understanding the people who are, you know, spitting in our face,
trying to convince us it's rain. There are people who say, well,
my grandmother voted for Donald Trump, and she's.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Not so she's not so bad.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
And those people are producers and so they're willing to
extend humanity to people when they it's lazy reporting, lazy journalism.
When you interview people and they say, just today they
said there were exit polls. Well you're who did you
vote for Donald Trump?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Why?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
I like his policies. So I'm like screaming, ask why,
Ask what policies? This reporter said, well, what policies? And
the woman just said, I mean all of them. You
you don't, yeah, right, you were voting for him for
a specific reason.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
I think we underestimate how you know, people will forget
what you did, they'll forget what you said, but they'll
never forget.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
How you made them feel.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
And I was watching this Asian guy on CNN and
he was saying that, you know, he feels like his
small business did better four years ago when Trump was
in office. I think a lot of that has to
do with PPP. I think a lot of that has
to do with those stimulus checks. And I think that's
what people are, that's that's people still remember that energy.

Speaker 13 (38:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (38:15):
Well, there's there's one person standing in the wings right
here that makes us feel a certain way. Aaron Haynes
is a good friend of ours, a brilliant political strategy
or political commentator. Aaron, We're gonna scoot down Tiff and
let her come sit right here because she ain't got
no handphones.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
That's scoot on down, Angel. Did you talk about New
Hampshire already?

Speaker 5 (38:36):
No?

Speaker 3 (38:36):
I did not talk about New Hampshire. You're breaking news.
The Fox News decision desk is project projecting a win
for her in New Hampshire.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
How many electoral votes is that?

Speaker 3 (38:45):
It doesn't New Hampshire is not a lot of electoral votes.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
But why new Hampshire significant is because yeah, yeah, so
that's why we paid so much attention to New Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Hear that New Hampshire was projected for vice president.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
How should we feel about this?

Speaker 3 (39:01):
The electoral Do you want to tell them what you're
looking at?

Speaker 5 (39:03):
The electoral.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
You have? What source are you looking at?

Speaker 5 (39:09):
This is Google?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Okay? Where did they pull it from?

Speaker 5 (39:14):
Google? Associated press apes?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
What you know, you know a little bit about a.

Speaker 14 (39:22):
Look, I mean I think what it means is it
is what ten o'clock, I'm forty three, you know, so
I mean it's it's it's nine forty three on Tuesday,
is you know sixty one degree? I know that's right,
he counting the votes because this thing is not over.
I mean, I'm from Georgia. I know Fulton County has
not come in, Atlanta has not come in, So like

(39:42):
we can't even really look at those numbers coming out
of Georgia as as real right now. Philadelphia is another
big city I just you know, live there. Know that
that is another county that comes in super late. Detroit
is another place that is going to come in super late.
So you've got a lot of big cities where we
know there are a lot of votes that still haven't
been counted yet. And so you know, this thing is
far far from over. That's that's what I know. Looking

(40:04):
at this map and also looking.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
At the clock.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Does Trump try to call it tonight?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yes, yeah, so he's gonna try to call it. Whether
did did we get to the other side?

Speaker 9 (40:12):
And Kamala got two hundred and eighty six electoral votes
he's still gonna try to call it tonight. I think
we know that, like this is a part of their plan.
And then if she ends up picking up additional votes
going towards Saturday or even on Sunday, he will say
that they tried to steal it. And that's the same
thing that happened. It's the exact same playbook from January sixth,
twenty twenty one. We know what it is, we know

(40:33):
what we're up against. I think right now I'll be
honest and saying my nerves are bad. I didn't want
the gap to be this big there. Some outlets are
projecting that he won Texas and it's with fifty percent
of the vote in and I was hoping that it
would be a little closer, especially because we haven't talked
much about all the Senate races. But Colin already is
also running against Ted Cruz in Texas, and I have

(40:55):
a sneaky suspicion that if the margin is that big
in Texas with Donald Trump, Colin alrets got a little bit.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I'm gonna hold out hope for Colin Alright. He's a
former NFL player, member of Congress who's trying to move
to the upper tambers. I'm gonna holpe member to see
comressor black clawk is. I'm gonna hold out hope that
he could still because we have seen those those split ballots.
And I'll say Texas is another state that they keep
promising Texas is gonna be purple, It's gonna swing purple.
We have yet to see that. Every cycle we think
it's gonna go purple, and we haven't seen it. So

(41:22):
I'm actually not as surprised that Texas may go for
Donald Trump again tonight.

Speaker 14 (41:26):
Absolutely, I think I think some people, you know, wonder
about that and and and the possibility of that happening,
just because Texas literally has you know, the largest uh
you know, Black population in the country, and yet you
know that does not necessarily translate into the numbers. Democratic
demography does not equal destiny, right, That's the thing that
we that we know and that we have seen. And

(41:48):
so you know Texas well, I think certainly Democrats have
made inroads better of Rourke came very close when he
challenged Ted CRUs and so now you have you know,
Colin Alred certainly within striking distance. But we don't don't
know what's gonna happen with that race.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yet it also punctuates aaron the Latino community as well,
because so often you hear the Latino vote, right, and
when you disaggregate these communities. There are more than twenty
countries of origin, there are different perspectives.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
It's like if you put.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
All the black people in the world, black folks from Kenya,
black folks from America, black folks from West Africa. Right
even here in America, you know a black person who
grew up in La versus somebody who grew up in Georgia.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
It's very different.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
And so in Texas, even with like within the Mexican population,
there are some very conservative Mexicans, I mean people's views
on immigration, right and not to be assumed.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Right, Yeah, you know.

Speaker 9 (42:40):
And I want to say, speaking of immigration, Ohio is
just called for Donald Trump as well, seventeen electoral votes.
That's not super surprising because Davey Vans, of course comes
from Ohio. But I bring that up because some of
the nastiest rhetoric we've heard about immigrants so far, hell,
I would say in a decade was what they've said
about folks in Springfield, what they alleged about folks in Springfield.

(43:02):
So I just wanted to punctuate this moment with hate
can still win in some of these in some of
these states. But Aaron, what, what what are you projecting overall? Well,
hate win or will love? I mean I think that
that will we turn the page. I mean, I don't know, right,
I mean I do. I Am not going to sit
up here in Nate Silver this thing. I can ensure

(43:24):
gut say, my gut says that it's going to be
close and that we were likely will not have a
result tonight. But that does not mean that there was cheating.
That does not mean that anything has been stolen. It
means that the votes are being counted. It means that
millions and millions.

Speaker 14 (43:40):
Of Americans participated in this election, and we need to
see we need to let democracy play out like that
is what I can say for sure.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I have a question for you, Aaron down here, Hi,
I'm sorry, Lauren.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
So, with everything that happened there, that we saw in
that state, and all the rhetoric and all that was
being spewed, and the fact that you know it's going
with going to Trump, what could Kama Love have done
like in the lead up to this point, that could
have changed that. Is there any like I thought she
echoing everything that was said, right, Like she's on these platforms,
she's talking about it, and it's still they still need

(44:12):
to a trunk Like what do you how would you
have advised her differently? I mean, I'm I'm definitely not
in the campaign advising business your perspective. But what I
mean say, what I will say is, you know, it
really was not about what the vice president could or
could not have done in Ohio, right, I mean, we
are talking about the former president being somebody who has
been in our.

Speaker 14 (44:32):
National politics for the better part of a decade. Right,
he is baked in with his voters, His base is
locked in. There really is not much that he could
do or say for the people who support him that
would turn them away. Even you know, hateful, hateful, racist
hoax you know about Haitian legal Haitian immigrants is not
going to turn them away. And so that was not

(44:53):
a deal breaker for his voters. We know that he
won Ohio in the past. Uh, the issue of a
abortion was also an issue that was on the ballot
in Ohio literally had been on the ballot. They recently
had you know, the abortion band that was put in
place there the question there was also a question about
whether that was going to mobilize women in that state.
So I'd be very curious to see what the gender

(45:14):
gap was in Ohio. But but yeah, I mean for
his voters, something like that, that racist hoax that came up,
that that was not something that was going to turn
them away, and and and that was and and that
and and they were not really voters that that the
vice president was really going to be able to persuade
and certainly was not going to be able to persuade

(45:35):
them by saying that his hateful rhetoric was something that
they shouldn't support. I mean, he said many hateful, sexist,
racist things over the years that have not been a
deal breaker for those voters.

Speaker 7 (45:47):
As anybody else nervous looking at these numbers because I'm
getting nervous. I'm just telling you so much read for me.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
I want to do. But that's how that Matt fills in.

Speaker 7 (45:54):
I'm just nervous now.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
I want to do author finishing right there.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
I think you have to.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Regardless, I see the iotas as she wrote, yes, and
the homecoming court No, no, it's not the homecoming court.
It is some more D nine students who missed it
on the first run. They're gonna come and make us
feel a little better. They're gonna make us feel a
little better.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
How do you think the Harras Walls team feeling right now?

Speaker 5 (46:22):
You know, the wallroom right now?

Speaker 1 (46:24):
What you think?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I am going to assume that they feel joyful because
they're not far from us. They're just feed away from us,
somewhere here on Howard's campus. It's still early in the evening.
I don't think they had the expectation that we would
know results tonight.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
She is in the home of her alma mater.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Uh So, I I don't think that that they share
this nervous energy. You know, I don't have nervous energy,
and be I understand why you do. I think that's,
you know, part of the part of the evening. But
I'm optimistic about tonight, and I think I hope that
they are as well.

Speaker 14 (46:56):
And look, I mean, they they knew that this was
gonna be a all. This was going to be a
close election. She had one hundred and seven days to
put on a campaign, and she has come with a
striking distance of the White House. I mean that certainly
was not certainly was not what the former president expected. Right,
he certainly is wondering why he's even on the ballot
with with Kamala Harris. But here they are neck and neck.

(47:18):
I mean, this thing could not be close. How are
looks right now? Right now, right and and and now
Michigan is too close to call. Pennsylvania's too close to call.
We alwaysknew, yeah, yeah, but but that.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Map is filling in the way that that map it's.

Speaker 9 (47:37):
All all of that is mostly southern states. You have
the entire West coast that have California a huge I mean,
is it forties?

Speaker 5 (47:44):
How many?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
It's not looking at the so they have the red
and the blue. And they're getting nervous right now because
they say, look, I'm explaining to them what they're looking at.

Speaker 9 (47:55):
It was always gonna come down to about seven states.
But you know what, we have more of seven people. Well,
because if by nine have joined us to camp, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Give you all a mic to tell us who you are,
where you're from, and how you're feeling. Just really quickly,
we're gonna pass the mic down real fast. We're gonna
start down here. Andrew, you got a mic, Andrew is
not listening or he can't hear me. Everybody's gonna introduce
just real quick, just like we did a little roll call,
because you guys are gonna pass that mic down and
they'll pass this one really quick.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
First name where you from?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Okay? Trayvon Molly, I'm from Plainfield, New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Hey, right, Okay, filing and get on from Chicago, Illinois.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Xavier Stirland from Carl Springs, Colorado.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Nike Morgan Durham, a graduating senior from Michigan. I heard
that Destiny Pridgeon from North Carolina. Hello, I'm Ekey Jabrero
and I'm from Omahona, Rasca. I'm you Osmond Edmonson and
I'm from Jersey by way of Brooklyn, Jersey. I'm Mackenzie
Campbell from PG County, Maryland.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Michael Thomas and I'm from.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
My name is Cole Waltson and I'm from Job of Maryland.
I'm Owen Garritt and I'm from Oakland, California.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
My name is Wesley Wilkins and I'm from Suffolk, Virginia.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
All right, we love it. Good job to finde nine.
Were happy to see you all tonight. We are grateful
for you coming on with us. You'll get back to
this show.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
I like your.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Madame Vice President Pamela Harris, all right now, all right
while they stand here and watch. Aaron, we thank you
so much for coming on with us.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Listen, it's been fun hanging out.

Speaker 14 (49:33):
I mean, y'all are doing the work out here, and
I know the work continues even beyond tonight, because whoever
is president on the other side of this, we have
got to keep paying attention to how people govern and
how the agenda that the folks that are listening to y'all,
how that agenda is fulfilled by I know y'all are
gonna keep holding them accountable. I don't even have to

(49:54):
worry about that. So y'all are on the case. So
that means that is a victory for democracy, and I
just salute all.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
Of y'all accountable, accountable to they start jailing journalists.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Fast, you got, that's a legit concern.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
I know, I.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Know, I don't.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
I can't go there. We gotta figure this out.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
But he literally earlier than I was like, it's gonna
be a blowout.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
I ain't all that.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
I told you. My grandma prayed before we got here.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
We could looking at you, Grandmaty.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
But you know there there is something to that.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
And just before you leave, Aaron, you wrote a column
talking about that very thing, about if Donald Trump's fear
and you know, persecution, I would think it could be
a strategy.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Why can't joy? Absolutely?

Speaker 14 (50:48):
Yeah, I mean we know that that joy has been
a radical strategy for people, for black women in this country,
and so the idea that that was front and center
in this race should be no surprise to anyone, you know.
And and pushing through the fear and the concerns that
so many black folks in this country had because this
this election is existential for us, right, so many black folks,

(51:13):
people of color, women, LGBTQ plus people feeling like, uh,
you know, everything is on the line for them depending
on the outcome of this election. And yet for us
to literally be here, you know, at this rally and
and and and just hearing and seeing the joy just
even as the returns are coming in and we know

(51:33):
that people are anxious, we know that people are fearful,
uh as they watch that map, just as you're doing
over there, Charlemagne, like, still being able to do that
with joy, that is that is I mean you know
that is that is definitely among the most American things
in our community.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
Regardless of who wins, I think America does have to
find a way to come together because, you know, one
thing I'm realizing is none of this matters, right. The
sexism don't matter, the racism don't matter, the anthemism no matter,
the homophobia don't matter. So what are we going to
do as a community, as a society knowing that all
of this really does exist among us and we can't
be delusional about it anymore?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
But we are delusional.

Speaker 9 (52:15):
I don't think I think that there was a time
where I felt more hopeful. There wasn't that I thought
that it was completely a race. But I do think
when Barack Obama won in two thousand and eight and
when he went again in twenty twelve, I had more
hope than I did when.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Donald Trump won in twenty sixteen. When when Donald Trump went.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
In twenty sixteen, I was like, who the are these
people that I have to work with?

Speaker 3 (52:36):
That I have to consult with?

Speaker 13 (52:38):
That?

Speaker 3 (52:38):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
I have to think it was more shocking, and I
don't think anybody was son.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Speaking of Trump, he just won. Jesus freak at MSNBC.
Donald Trump wins Kansas.

Speaker 9 (52:46):
Yeah, I have Kansas maybe yet because I was expected,
but you're right, he did win Kansas.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
I will just say though, no, no, no, I'm just I'm
just saying because you're right, but I was just like,
it's my Twitter feed got.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Me up to date.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
All of this looks about white.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
It looks about why.

Speaker 9 (53:02):
It still looked like the Confederates that wanted us to
be represented with three fists.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
The point is we I don't I don't know how
I am going.

Speaker 9 (53:12):
To feel tomorrow or on Saturday if this is this
election is called on for Trump. I just I cannot
even fathom it. I don't want to consider that.

Speaker 7 (53:21):
Again, how do y'all look at the black voters that
said they're not voting for Kamala and they voted for Trump.
How do you look at those family members?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I don't have no.

Speaker 7 (53:30):
Family members like that.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Angel, I don't.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Even know Trump people you like, people in my family
have said things like this.

Speaker 9 (53:40):
Maybe you changed their minds, but I remember specific Maybe
I'm in extended families too. My god brother did but
he voted No, no, no, no, no. He was saying that
he thought some of the stuff that Trump did was positive,
and then he saw how they were talking about me,
I mean.

Speaker 7 (53:53):
Personal family, like you meant, you know.

Speaker 9 (53:57):
I gotta tell you, I have not met a lot
of black Trump supporters. I just haven't. I've met people
who said that they like Stimmy's.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Or they like PPP until their friends got arrested, or
you know, like I've met those folks, or that they
thought that he was right on immigration.

Speaker 14 (54:12):
That they weren't going to vote, or maybe they weren't
voting for her, but then they weren't going to vote
for anybody.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
I don't think they're.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Large enough in number v I really I think that
was such a false media narrative that so many people
glopped onto and elevated and perpetuated, and it's like, whoa
time out? You guys, Like these are random soundbites that
nobody's bothering to ask the follow up. Nobody's bothering to say, well,
are you registered to vote? Did you vote in the
last election? Are you registered to vote this cycle? I

(54:39):
would be very curious to see the exit polls. We
already know that the GOP has gotten twelve percent of
the black mail vote specifically last cycle. There is no
evidence that that has grown in number or gotten smaller
in number. So I'll wait to see that some of
the exit poles, But.

Speaker 14 (54:54):
Like eight to fifteenvatives, And again, the question is what
do white people do? It's election because white people are
the Americans that are voting for Trump, voting for Republicans
in the majority. The extent to which his support is
eroded among white Americans, not the extent to which he's
attracting other people whose votes have had to mitigate, right, people,

(55:19):
who are the white people who are voting for Trump?

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Like that is the point? But you know, Charlamagne, you.

Speaker 14 (55:23):
You also make a really good point about the country
coming back together and and our politics being about more
than just who wins or loses, right, but about our
shared values and our shared sense of fate, which seems
to kind of feel lost in all of this, right, Like,
how do you how do we really get back to that?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
On the other side of the selection.

Speaker 14 (55:45):
Hugely hugely difficult, so divided, and so many people who
it seems, you know, just really don't care about their
fellow Americans, right Like, how how how does that sense
of community?

Speaker 3 (55:57):
How do you begin to foster that?

Speaker 6 (56:00):
Believe that's what the pessimism comes into play now because
you're looking at this map right now, you're.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Like, damn yeah, you know what.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Crazy though, When I went into vote today because I
was earlier, I was a little pessimistic and I went
into vote and the women who like were there that
was helping out everything their energy, I was like, it
just felt like it felt so good. It made me
feel like, Okay, we got this. And then things change
or whatever, so the feeling, you know, changes a little bit.

(56:26):
But I'm thinking, like when people go into the voting
polls and they get that feeling, I hope that that
in real life, like you were saying right, like, you
don't run into like a thousand and one people who
support Trump every single day in your real life, but
the media makes you feel like that in real life.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
When I walked into that poll, I'm like, I hope
everyone is.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Getting this, but they feel good and they feel energized,
and then you know what I mean.

Speaker 14 (56:44):
I love what you're saying because we have made voting
sound like such a burden. No, I've made voting sound
you know, people were scared to go to the polls.
They were scared of what might happen when they got
to the precinct. You know what happened when I went
to my precinct single poll worker, that was there was
a black woman me too, I think, and then we're
black black women like that, you know. They yeah, the

(57:08):
part can they got last for any They clapped the
woman he came in. It was it was good.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
It was a festive. It was a positive experience.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Yeah, yeah, well if they just calling another thing, Yeah
they are.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
Trump just got tim more. I don't know who we want.

Speaker 14 (57:23):
We're gonna, we're gonna get there and there we know,
you got all gotta gotta I gotta gotta get the
phones back on.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
And it's focused. Yeah, I was the way he when
he got but yeah, I offered him mine. He is
focused on the glasses on twice, took him off three
to what he gets his headphones on.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
I think that's because he's so used to watching these maps,
you know, from his own Okay, yeah, that's what I'm
going to study understanding of what we're seeing tonight.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah, as you've been over there, study Andrew.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Tell Us tell us black junk happened with the electoral
College is.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
Now so there are reports that are coming in right
now around the early I mean the ten PM closing states.
I haven't been able to assess all of all of those,
but let me just describe for a minute, because some
people may be confused by what they are seeing.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Around. Some of the states have been called some of y'all.

Speaker 7 (58:19):
Break down a purple state too, because you mentioned Tiffany.
It's in purple states. And some people are saying, well,
what is a purple stated?

Speaker 1 (58:25):
No blue?

Speaker 8 (58:25):
Yeah, but bring are the purple states of the states
that don't go predictably Democrat or predicted Republican any state
wide race.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
So they flip back and forth between.

Speaker 8 (58:37):
Democratic top of the ticket and Republican top of the ticket.
But others may have heard this term the red mirage,
and it's less known than we know about the blue
wave and that kind of thing. But the red mirage,
which is connected to then the blue shift, is the
early part of the night. The results that come in
tend to favor the Republican party because of the way

(58:58):
in which because the order at which boats are counted,
so the early counting of the vote's show may show
a Trump lead in certain places. And then the reason
why they call the red mirage is because the mirage
doesn't really exist. It leads you to believe you're gonna
get that red thing. But as the night goes on

(59:18):
and the counting continues, a blue shift starts to happen,
and that state goes from looking red or I think
some of the networks that not are using a darker
hue of red to suggest leading Republican into a blue column.
And it's not because there's any cheating that's been done.
Is that they've added more votes to the tally. And

(59:40):
as they add more votes, large wheels that were either
mailed in or submitted as provisional ballots that get counted.
When they get counted and qualified, they move into the total,
and that total then moves. What looked like when you
went to bed a state that was red and you
wake up the next morning and that state happens to
be blue.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Is not because anybody stolen they votes. Is because more votes.

Speaker 8 (01:00:01):
Were counted and then the calculation into the total of
those votes have then moved that state to a.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Blue column. So don't be discouraged when you're looking at it. Oh,
I just know we do better.

Speaker 8 (01:00:15):
Wait, that's why we warned people don't assume that the
election is over the day that we vote.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Give it time for all the votes to be counted.
And it looks different. Speak of it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Need a logo three right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yeah, don't take your headphones out, scoop down because you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
Haven't been in an arena. You have been in an
arena when the team is getting blown out.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
That's how I feel right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
But that's because it's all like think of.

Speaker 9 (01:00:36):
If you look at the actual map right the red
states are actually mostly in the south.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Those polling locations have closed.

Speaker 9 (01:00:44):
You're seeing projections even when there's zero point zero off
the votes counted.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
So this is usual.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
This is absolutely usual. We haven't seen California yet, but it's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Not just California Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I think we'll get Nevada.

Speaker 9 (01:00:58):
But while we're moving down, we are bringing on our
good friend and brother Rock and Is Howard sweatshirt is
look like Quinton James.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
It looks very similar.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
I can't this is Quentin James.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
The collective fact also vote to live, dear partner of
ours at Native lampod and and and I know he's
happy to be in joint collapse conversation with the breakfast club.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
You this is not on trends.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Can we put Quin's mike on there? We go, Quentin, Yes,
we need some hope because people spiral in real time.
Some people spiral, didn't y'all I was talking about or something.
Please look at his knee cap up and everything.

Speaker 10 (01:01:37):
It's early, so we know a lot of votes are
still going to be counters to night from election day.
We saw an overperformance today from our folks showing up
to vote. Kind of procrastinated, but they did show up.
So I think we're gonna see these numbers kind of
shift throughout the night. And as we told everybody, you've
got to be patient, right, It's gonna take a while
to count all these votes. We want every vote counted.
We know that people still in line voting right now

(01:01:59):
and states like Arizona, Nevada, so let's be patient count
of your vote.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
And I think we're gonna be all right.

Speaker 8 (01:02:06):
So clearly, you know, the predicted of a dramatic win
by either party. There's no state that is falling one
way so far that suggests as dramatic win by anybody.

Speaker 13 (01:02:18):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
Thing it's on park.

Speaker 8 (01:02:19):
Everything is pretty much on par I think people have
higher you know, had higher hopes for Georgia. I don't
know where the most populated centers are with their total tally,
so around Atlanta and in the county surrounding Atlanta, what
percentage of that vote is already in. If we're talking
about forty maybe even forty fifty of the vote, know

(01:02:41):
that you have half the state's population of the entire
state of Georgia is roughly populated in this area and
just around it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
And so we need to let those votes get in
and be counted again.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
Uh, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 9 (01:03:00):
I just wanted on this point one of the things
that Tip brought up earlier too, and I think it's
so important to contextualize the vote in our folks pushing
forward anyway, being resilient anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
The Philadelphia City, Philadelphia's city.

Speaker 9 (01:03:13):
Commissioner just said that several polling places were targeted by
bomb threats. We knew about that in Georgia. Today we
heard that it was, you know, most likely from a
Russian actor. These bomb threats in Philadelphia going right to
the heart of where black folks are and where elections
can be decided. How have you seen that intimidation work
against our folks or not at all.

Speaker 10 (01:03:34):
I mean, listen, it's an age old trick. We knew
this was a possibility. It's very disheartening to see it
happen in real life. I think before we got to remember, right,
this is again the same tactics use against our people
throughout the sixties, this kind of terrorism. The thing that's
interesting is there weren't bomb threats in Wyoming or Nebraska.

(01:03:59):
They've been in George, been in Philadelphia, been in places
where we know black voter's gonna show up and vote.
And so I think that also is a little bit
of a tell to me that people are afraid of
our folks coming out to vote, so they're gonna resort
to those tactics.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
But again, I.

Speaker 10 (01:04:14):
Gotta give it up to black voters. Before today, over
fifty percent of the black women who were registered to
vote in North Carolina, in Georgia, they'd already voted, right,
And so I think we're gonna see a record breaking
turnout from black women tonight, and we got to recognize
that and give it up to black voters in spite
of all these threats that we're seeing.

Speaker 7 (01:04:34):
I do have to ask, you know, we talked about
Kamala Harris so much and she didn't have the time
of course Trump had. Is there anything that she should
have done that she didn't get a chance to or
that you wish you would have seen her do any
at all?

Speaker 10 (01:04:46):
I mean, look, in campaigns, you have three resources, right, time, money,
in people. She didn't have a lot of time, right,
So she had a lot of money, had a lot
of people. But the time issue, I think is the
only thing I would look at as something at her
disc advantage. We kind of heard reports today of you know,
concerns around black voter turnout in Philadelphia, for instance. She

(01:05:06):
didn't have the time to really dig in there. Again,
one hundred day campaign has been phenomenal, but we've never
seen anything like this in presidential history before.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
So that's the one piece. It's just the time issue.

Speaker 10 (01:05:16):
I don't think she could have spent again more money
here or there, or have more people organized here or
there the clock.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Can I tell you, guys, one piece of.

Speaker 9 (01:05:26):
Show I was It's not even about actually from what
what what Tip would normally say is the dick of
the country. There is a Florida state attorney who was
suspended by Ron DeSantis by the name of Monique Worrell
who has won her seatback. So that is one piece
of good news in black history in Florida to command
and to be proud of.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
I'm the only one celebrating it the show. Thanks Lauren
hop us In. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
I want to say the NFO because the way that
you're posing the question, it sounds you and Leonard are
both like you know you, you sound like you're not
as hopeful, and I just want to just I know
they're both. They said, what y'all cold? Why they say
like that's that girl is so high over here?

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
Because stop playing the music. There was the energy that
was him not him no more, No, I don't know
it back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Up spiritually music.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Yeah, it's quiet because they're looking at their water projection, right,
and I just want to encourage the stop looking at the.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
Project I need to stop looking at Okay, try it.

Speaker 8 (01:06:40):
We wonder why when we wake up and the Republicans
who are right now rejoicing and then sad tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
You can understand that if you're in this move.

Speaker 8 (01:06:48):
Because you're expecting these things to look a certain way,
they go to bed with it assured that it looks
a certain way, and then as the folks get counted.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
They wake up tomorrow and they said the Democrats stole it.
How they went away.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
I think the only reason why like their reaction is
probably how some people are feeling, because I agree the
way that Kamala came in and just like bully, like
she bullied it like for like so fast. Right the
first two weeks day, first two days, I think people
expected to see that instant like gratification right now, it
is the journey problem. Yeah right, they scream back here

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like a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
This is exactly how the process is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Right, I know what I would like Cowlorado was called
for Kamala expected better, just noting I.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Think I did ill called.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
I know it's got called on my screen right now,
down and Trump is up fifty.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
One to I really would like to know where was
by Trump this time in twenty twenty, That's what I would.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Look it up.

Speaker 8 (01:07:48):
Well, we didn't know a lot at this time in
twenty twenty. We took it the whole week, practically Saturday,
for us to get to the point where we thought
we know the president.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I remember we did coverage that night and we went
bed believing the Democrat was going to lose.

Speaker 8 (01:08:02):
Yeah, we were was we woke up the next morning
in our days, absolutely the whole set.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
We thought we went to bed and that we had lost.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
So it looked like this guy, Yes, it.

Speaker 10 (01:08:11):
Looked like I don't have the whole country, but I
do know at this point in twenty twenty, uh, Donald
Trump was doing better right now in Georgia. Right, so
he's underperforming his twenty twenty numbers in Georgia at this
point compared to twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
We just see some music in some week, so you'll, County,
isn't it right yet? County? You said no, no, yeah,
still we can even go to the ones that be
ordering the huka we got were all right?

Speaker 7 (01:08:40):
I do got to ask a question too. You know,
when you look at some of these elections in these
other countries, right, it's not as long, it's a lot
less than than what we do here. And I feel like,
do you think there should be a cap on the
amount of money raised when it comes to I mean,
because I mean they're raising over a billion dollars each,
they have to any money on all types of fripulous stuff.
Do you think that we should have a cap on

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the bount of head raise an amount of time?

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
And why yes, well, a lot of countries do that,
France for example, that yes, Canada and where you have
a limited time of even campaigning. To your point, the
money in politics, which you know Quinton obviously runs the
collective pack which is a part of raising money. But
the donor classes we've talked about on this show frequently
is largely white and male, and you can really influence

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how campaigns and Canadas feel and how they move and
things that they say. I think if there's a limit,
or even if they're publicly funded, you would get down
to the meat of policy and what actually matters, not
all of this kabuki theater, not all of this glitter.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
A lot of money goes on media.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Buys, uh, which you know you yes, you you stay frivolous,
But I don't know how frivolous that is because that
is how a lot of Americans consume information.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
That's how they get news.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Unfortunately, it's not a lot of readers, but we have
a lot of watchers. I also think if you are
looking at the public funding of some of these campaigns, uh,
the process looks different. Right. Like we've talked about this
on Native Lampard about having audiences in debates, but you
get so much applause that you're you know, missing what
the candidates are putting forth to the audience in a

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very serious way. So yes, definitely, I'm for limiting the
amount of time for campaigns and also limiting the money
that goes there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Also exhaust voters. I think it exhausts voters. Yeah, two
years of this out in and out exhausts us.

Speaker 8 (01:10:29):
And if we had a season that we can look
forward to where we know it's gonna start and there's
an end to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
That, I agree.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
I think I'm exhausted right now.

Speaker 9 (01:10:36):
Well, don't be too exhausted yet. You got a couple
more hours of coverage, good sir. I want to come
back to you really quick, Quentin. One with some bad
news and one with some good news. The bad news
is that even though we hoped for a miracle and
a hail Mary in Texas, with seventy seven percent of
the precincts reporting, Colin Alred is not lost to Ted Cruz,

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the incumbent, who is really just not worth the damn
ladies and gentlemen. However, in Maryland, Angela also Brooks has
become the second black women senator to join Lisa.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Rochester and you gotta feel good about that. Good, Well,
let let Quinn happen. Sorry, I know.

Speaker 10 (01:11:21):
I mean, look, it's it's historic to put again two
black women in the US Senate in one election. We
we we know, uh, the opportunity that her being there
is going to provide to so many families throughout Maryland,
but also the so many black candidates around the country
seeing as a possibility that I can run state wide
and be victorious. It's incredible. And so again they're calling

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on leading in Arizona. We're leading in Arizona. Again, let's
be patient tonight, but again let's applaud Angela also Brooks
in the amazing campaign that she ran, being incredibly outspent.
To your point, you know, when it comes to black candidates,
we have a tough time raising money.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
But that's why you said collective pack and that's why
I want you to talk about because tip to your
point and envy to your point.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Is there too much money in politics?

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Yes, but while it stays, they come up with a
really tremendous solution and you guys funded people from the
top of the ticket all the way down ballot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Talking about that work. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:12:15):
So we launch the Collective Pack in twenty sixteens to
really build black photical power by raising money. We know
money in politics is so important, and so if you're
not funding our candidates and we can't expect them to
go out there and compete dollar for dollar against every
by body else. And so we had over one hundred
candidates on the ballot today. Hopefully most of them will
be victorious. But again, this money and politics thing is

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a real issue. And as a people, we got to
organize our money in our politics so that our folks
don't get bought and sold by other communities.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
That's a really big issue for us moving forward.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
That's right, Well, we are so grateful that you joined
us tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Welcome to Howard. Welcome to Howard.

Speaker 9 (01:12:53):
Oh yeah, you're having it. You appreciate it. You know
you might have a little bit of beat down there
with envy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
You know, just all love today.

Speaker 13 (01:13:03):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Thanks cute, let's see you.

Speaker 9 (01:13:05):
And and Andrew is down here being our black John King,
so let him have his money and piano.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
Will stay two.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Night tired after the tire the first night.

Speaker 6 (01:13:15):
Trump did call it in twenty twenty, so clearly something
must have been happening like this to where he felt
confident and they thought they were gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Yeah, you can get rid of the electoral college.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
But I was telling me that, Andrew, I need you
to keep telling me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Yeah. I mean it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
But here's the thing, you guys.

Speaker 9 (01:13:31):
I do think it's important to note because normally we
do talk about the distinction between what's happening with the
electoral college versus the popular vote. Right now, because of
the number of Southern states that have been called, Donald
Trump is ahead. He's forty two million plus votes to
Kamala Harris's thirty seven point plus million votes, So there

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is a there is a disparity there as well.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
I do think that gap will significantly closes.

Speaker 9 (01:13:56):
Those West coast states coming start coming in and more
of the Midwest start coming in.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
They said Pennsylvania's look at for Pensylvania close.

Speaker 8 (01:14:03):
There's only about fifty one percent of the vote in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Reports she gets too closed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Cleaning right now because slightly Trump Okay, because I saw that,
I didn't want to say it. Yeah it's that, and
I was like, I don't want to be the one
to say it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
It's slightly Trump, but it should be at this stage
of the game.

Speaker 8 (01:14:20):
It's the larger, more populous cities that get added into
the vote collete, not.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Completely taking a little longer because and then.

Speaker 8 (01:14:29):
From that they'll open up early ballots which they were
not able to begin counting until tonight when the post closed,
and other states my state, they open them and they
start to roll them in. So those early number that's
how you can have a whole state like Florida, the
third largest in the country, produce its winners and losers
in the first hour hour and a half after the
post close.

Speaker 7 (01:14:48):
So for Pennsylvania, anybody that voted early and not open.

Speaker 8 (01:14:52):
Those until post closed, so as those get calculated and
added in, you see shifts in the outcome that state.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
Its West Wing report says presidential race as far shows
no surprises on the man, So Harris, Pennsylvania looks better
razor than Leeds in Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia is concerning for her.
Virginia not a swing state, shaking and expected. Iowa more competitive,
competitive than expected. You'll recall the CEL support.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Being no surprises.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Were we looking out for Iowa? Yeah, Iowa's closer than
seeing So sometimes saying on Twitter, and you guys can
confirm this over there is Trump in Iowa.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
He will win Iowa. I didn't expect them.

Speaker 8 (01:15:34):
They yeah, And I also but the fact that she
is competitive in Iowa at this stage, she should not
be competitive in a state like Iowa. Iowa has been
solidly Republican for the last three presidential races. Took a
dip into our land with Obama and then came right
back out and it's been reliably It.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Is not critical to her.

Speaker 8 (01:15:53):
It's not even counted by her team as being necessary
for the electoral College.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Iowa.

Speaker 8 (01:16:00):
It's called for Republicans, Yes, for Trump, and it will
be unexpected.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Well, I was hoping that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Well, yeah, so it's organ and she should win organ.
But we were just hopeful because you know, they had
some reports earlier. They said the I can't think of
the of the the poster's name. They said, yeah, they said,
she always gets it right. She called it for She said, well,
she actually didn't call it for Kamala. She said that

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it was very very close, and it was leaning towards her,
but within the margin of air.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
So, uh, yes, we are now and what is the
hell is happening?

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
Well, they people, they just went dead.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Reports, they're watching seeing it said, they're counting votes, they're
watching the watching the screen.

Speaker 7 (01:16:56):
People.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
I do want to set the scene for them, so
they're it's still a sea of people who are very joyful.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
So we hear waves of applause and cheers as they.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Have CNN projected on the screen, and so as Don
King is projecting states or showing where Vice President Harris
might be leading, that's when you hear cheers. So as
we get that breaking news, we will be sure to
share it with you guys at home. But it is
still a very joyful time here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Point out the.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
Joy because.

Speaker 8 (01:17:24):
I'm look, this is a troll, hey, Charlomagne, and these
these folks are as novice to the process as any
of us.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Many of you got these returns.

Speaker 8 (01:17:44):
They feel a certain way about what they wanted to
look like, and it doesn't reflect what they feel like
it should look like. But I have if we were
broadcasting to them, I'd say the same thing, which were
hold your horses, calm down, wait and be patient, because
when these votes are counted, you'll see a better reflection
of what you thought the earlier part of the night
should have looked.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Like, can we take a snapshot of this though, because
there is I know, you guys, hopefully they're doing audience
shots there. But there was a sea of black people
waving the American flag on this historically black university and
just the dichotomy of that, right that what that flag
represents and has represented for us on this campus of

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black people when America does still stand poise to elect
the first black woman to leave the country.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
I just think this is a moment in history. And
y'all are down there on the way we are.

Speaker 7 (01:18:40):
We went to the crowd and this tears. So there's
press over here, it's alumni, this students. Me and Lauren
actually stuck into the alumni and student section was dead.
I had called a they kicked us out at first,
so just to let you know, they kicked us out
at first. We had to go back. But then there's
alumni on the side, and then there's just DMV residents
and they're super super excited. But like you said, right now,

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they're watching CNN. They're waiting for these these numbers to
be announced.

Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
You just got some more.

Speaker 7 (01:19:05):
See that you didn't announce that one?

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Yeah, what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
She got two twelve one twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Yeah, but remember there's a lot of SAT you don't
have to come in, so that number will flip draft.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
Uh, I'm not even tripping. None of the battlegrounds are
really in. You know, he still got North Carolina, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Want to see what talk about some in North Carolina?
It might make y'all happy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
They had a guber natorial candidate was a brother uh
named Mark Robinson.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
He lost.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
He didn't He did, in fact lose no surprise no
so far our viewers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
You may recall Mark Robinson was the lieutenant governor running
for the governor and he was, uh look at for
something literally literally that's when transgenders on his left.

Speaker 13 (01:19:54):
I was, what was that?

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Is that what he is? He said that he found
it's like Africa porn or.

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
Something Africa porn.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
But I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
You guys. Look, Angela, I'm looking it out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Africa porn.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Yes, I need one more wordy other than Africa porn.

Speaker 6 (01:20:29):
How does that fair for her in North Carolina? Since
the governor won the democratic government, it should help her.
But it gives you an indication of how voters are voting.
So if they declared his loss but again he has
become an embarrassment to the Republican Party. So this is
where you might see some of those split ballots.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
But that is you wouldn't be embarrassed if he was white.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
I think that was some of the things that he
was saying and doing were I think universally.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Yeah, But I'll say this, Charlotte, because you you brought
up something I think this speaks to it, and you
talked about how do we come together after the country,
no matter who wins. And I have to say, and this,
you know, may be controversial to some people, but I
actually have no interest in coming together.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
I say, I really don't. I don't. I have no wait,
I don't. I have no interest in meeting a bigot
in the middle. I'm not trying to understand.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
I know very well their perspective and if our disagreement,
as the saying goes, is rooted in you denying my humanity,
I'm not trying to convince you of such things. I say, yes,
stay over there, and I respect the honesty. I would
rather you look me in my face and tell me
how you feel than to smile on my face and
feel feel the way that I know you feel. So

(01:21:40):
I think that is something that we have to have
a serious conversation in this country about, because we're not
at a place where everybody's like, Okay, guys, you guys
won this time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
We're all gonna go back to our corners. Even Stevens, No, I.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Think we are that the Civil War did not begin
with the first firing, you know, of a pistol. It
began long before that. There was this court, and I
think we're seeing something like that happened in this country.
And then when you broaden that out and be and
this is key, when the United States is at war
with itself on the global stage, we look incredibly weak.

(01:22:10):
And so we've already seen threats to our country this cycle.
And so i'd imagine Russia might have company to go
around in Iran, in China, all empires fall. America has
been a superpower for the long time because of us,
because of our bodies, we created this superpower. We are
primed right now to be taken out. So this election

(01:22:32):
not only has consequence for policy here domestically, it has
consequences for our global standing. And that's a very serious thing.

Speaker 5 (01:22:40):
I agree with you.

Speaker 6 (01:22:41):
If I was a political strategist and called me naive.
I wouldn't want to just chalk up what we're seeing
what the Trump thing, to just bigotry, to just racism,
to just sexism. I really would want I really want
to see what he's doing that is moving people and
has been moving people for the past that think that's
g I think it's I think it's got to be

(01:23:02):
a little bit more more than that are It might
be what what are Democrats not doing? You know, That's
what I would want to know. I can't just say, hey,
everybody's racist, everybody's a bigger I.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Think that that is very true.

Speaker 9 (01:23:13):
I think we've heard from our own friends, but for
super honest even in our own conversations right about where
there's shortcomings or where we don't feel represented inside of
a big ten. You know, it's like even when you
talk about the way that consultants are used, or you
talk about the way that candidates have to fight to
be seen. Even in Andrew's experience, Andrew wasn't just They

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didn't decide that Andrew was the darling of the Democratic Party,
fought hard af to be at the top of the ticket,
to be the the to get out of the primary
and to be the Democratic Party's nominee for governor of Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
That wasn't easy. You fought to the last name, and
the media had really called him, they called it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Way Graham.

Speaker 8 (01:23:55):
But so about Let's recognize that half the country isn't voting.
Half the people of the country who are qualified to
vote don't vote.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
They just don't exercise it.

Speaker 8 (01:24:06):
So your point around, I want to be with you
because I wanted badly to be there in twenty sixteen
when I thought my neighbors and everybody who I trusted
that was white betrayed me and don't give it damn
about who I am, and so on and so forth.
But the lived experience is much more nuanced than that.
All we walk this earth very differently between you know,

(01:24:30):
between people. So I can't say and result that an
election is decided just that way. I think Trump reaches
at something well that's not even that clever. If you
are a person and you don't have a perfect life
and therefore you have grievances, Trump has taught you how
to complain and like make no apologies about it if

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he complains, and then points you to the people who
are responsible for your pain. And they're the people who
are brown, and they're black, and they're women, and they're
everybody that's not like you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
And so.

Speaker 8 (01:25:05):
If we were able to run a race trying to
build community off of people who got complaints about how
fucked up shit is, we went to I mean, we
you know, we'd lead, we'd connect with people by making
that the case that groceries are too high. This is happening,
this is happening, jobs are being shipped here, and that
group is responsible for why you're not living your best life.

(01:25:27):
That's not rocket science politics. It's the politics of grievance.
They win campaigns, and sometimes that kind of politicians lose.

Speaker 6 (01:25:34):
His well to that point, Andrew, I agree with you,
but black people do have grievances. I agree you do
have a community that we point to, which is usually
white supremacy. But we don't have elected officials that are
willing to do that. We don't have elected officials that
are willing to challenge that system of white supremacy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Largely, I don't think they don't speak directly to a
lot of stuff. When I'm not like, I remember it
that the interview that you said in the.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Problem, Yeah, from Florida Byron Donalds.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
That was it you had to push.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
But that's a Republican conservative. If you're talk about Byron donald.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
No, no, no, no no, I'm talking about Wes Moore,
and I love him to death, but I just felt
like in all of his speaking it was very much
like high level hope love and it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
There were certain things that like he wouldn't even directly.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Say, and I'm like, why I thee Yeah, And there
is the Republicans do they they but they they running
different areas and they don't They're not up against the
same things we have to when we're When we're black
in a progressive party or in a Democratic party, we
have a double big ten to win over. We have

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to prove to white folks that we're worthy of election,
and we have to prove the black folks that were
down for the cause, and we have to prove to
everybody else that we still see their grievances. White folks
can come on and say, trust me, little brown person,
little black person, I got you and I could probably
solve your problems better than you. And if you don't
trust me on this, that's fine, because there's a whole
bunch of white folks that'll.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
Elect me to super se whatever minority you are of
the vote.

Speaker 9 (01:27:11):
What I would say is that what I took issue
with is there are mayors in mostly black cities. There
are members of the Congressional Black Caucus, some that are
in majority minority districts, which means that it's mostly black
or mostly black and brown or whatever. But there are
also a lot of them who are in white, white
folks districts too, who see issues similar to us, who

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might have that Black Lives Matter signing in their yard,
and those folks, and those folks will absolutely stand with
us and say the hard thing. Barbara Lee, who is
retiring now and will be replaced tonight by Latifa Simmons
in Oakland, California, is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
One of those folks. She was the only person that
was willing to stand up against the Iraq war right.
So we have those members, but they are few and
far between, especially if they have just leadership ambition.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Your point is, your point is well taken, Like I
think it's.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Like like I mean, even the town's the town hall.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
And you know when I thought it was great when
Charlotte was asking Kamala about like why can't you just
say what you will do?

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Why can't you just you know?

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
And she she's she worked her way around and she
answered it, but she still had to work with There
is the.

Speaker 8 (01:28:22):
Way in which we still have to be in the
politics where we're not the majority who election?

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
What do you think would happen?

Speaker 14 (01:28:28):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
If there was a politician, I was just like, you
know what I mean on our side that looks like us.
I want to tell you they are politicians. Ticket like, that's.

Speaker 7 (01:28:43):
About Barack Obama. That's why the black people said that.
Barn't you know it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
But what you guys are talking about it's at the
presidential level. And politics is about addition, not subtraction. So
you do have to say things to appeal to a
broad or not or not.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
But we're not.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
But I would challenge you to say, there are tons
of politicians who do call a thing a thing and
speak very.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Truthfully about it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Congressom and Ayana Presley is one of those people. Congress
from Barbara Lee is one of those people.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
There are mayors.

Speaker 8 (01:29:12):
The problem is is that if we could name check them,
then they're not enough. I agree, but we're talking about
the majority experience with politics is you're listening to this
politician and nothing they're saying is believable.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Yeah, that's your lived.

Speaker 8 (01:29:26):
Experience because I had these problems before you got there.
You told me you'd solve them. I'm up to elect
you again and the same problems are still persistent.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:29:34):
Now, one I try to be honest with people. Any
time I've ever run is shared that this doesn't change overnight.
This system didn't get here overnight. If we're four hundred
years here and through a civil war that divided the country,
it came out of the civil war, had what less
than ten years of independence, our ability to run right,
and then the reconstruction laws got taken away from us,

(01:29:56):
and then we get another hundred years and when we
found ourselves in civil rights and we barely get out
of that. That system does not change overnight. It was
not invented overnight, and it requires a level of patience, sophistication,
but also stick to itiveness that we're not gonna give
up on that fight. And so it isn't dependent from
one election to another. Movements require us to stay in them.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
In order for them to move.

Speaker 7 (01:30:20):
I think he's one of the things, like she said,
it's like when you look at a Barack Obama right
and you say, wow, we finally got somebody that looks
like me. He's gonna do something for my community. He's
gonna stand up when the police officers killed the brother
for no reason. He's gonna stand up when he sees this.
He's gonna stand up when season justice.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
And he doesn't, or when he did, or we ended
up with Skip Gates. What did they have him do
a beer summit?

Speaker 8 (01:30:41):
He called out racism for a white black professor getting
in his own house getting arrested could be my son.
And then what he ended up then with with after that,
he's got to sit down with white folks as the
president of the United States and then retract it practically
and make it appear as if.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
No, your white son would have experienced the same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
Not true.

Speaker 8 (01:31:05):
So when he stepped out, Democrats, Republicans everybody in between
clipped his knuckles and were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, You're
not that man in this house.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
He got to be something different.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
But I think, I think to Laura's point, because I
understand what she was saying about Governor uh Westmore the Democratic.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Verse, and I love him, by the way, I thought
he was fired the president. That's the point.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
But I was like, why, right, I completely understand what
you're saying. I think Wes Moore is Governor Moore is
a wonderful person, wonderful human being. I also think he's
very politically ambitious, and so he is setting his sights
on I need to continue to build and attract people
to my campaign. Sadly, in politics, it's too common a

(01:31:46):
thing where you can profess loudly on what you'll do
for everybody else and you whisper that shit to black folks.
You professed loudly what you'll do for everybody else's issue,
but you go behind the curtain and say, okay, but
black folks, I got y'all. Once we get in office, right,
I think that you do have to challenge those and
confront those systems. I don't think we're there yet.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
We are fourteen but we are because she did it
right well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Vice President Harris said, but we're fourteen percent of the population,
and so when you're talk about that level, you do
have to make an appeal. Now, if Vice President Harris
comes out and says, I for I'm the president for reparations,
I believe you know, I'm going to eradicate the criminal
justice system. I am going to uh write the wrongs

(01:32:32):
of housing. You know, black folks have been and this
is her chief message that she's banging. She would not
have the coalition that she did, she would have the
chany So but question, well, the question I would put
to you then, is is it important for her to
get in office and then hold her accountable to our
agenda or do we want her to go out there
ra rah rah and and normalize speaking about our issues

(01:32:55):
at the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Risk that she may not win in a liss.

Speaker 8 (01:32:57):
I want her to run the race on the campaign
and on the issues that she's running. And the fact
that she's the first candidate for president of the United
States to have a black male agenda ever, is progress.
Obama didn't have a black man's agenda or a black
women's agenda. That doesn't mean he didn't do things that
benefit our community, but he did not feel at the

(01:33:19):
time that he could run realistically for president of the
United States with a black agenda and said as much
when asked about what your black agenda, said, my agenda
is for the American people and we all benefit from that.
And that had to be good enough for us at
the time. Kamala didn't didn't do that. She actually took
an added risk by saying black men calling us.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Out and not just that, not superficially.

Speaker 8 (01:33:41):
She then put the policy behind it and it didn't
begin an end with jail and drugs.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
I just want to put it out really quick, really
really quick.

Speaker 9 (01:33:50):
Nebraska is in and I want to I want to
say this because I think this is significant. In twenty twenty,
Donald Trump won four of the five. This is one
of the states that's split. Four of the five electoral
votes in Nebraska.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Tonight, Donald Trump won three of the five, so two
of those are going to Kamala Harris.

Speaker 8 (01:34:11):
Whats are a requirement for her in order to win
the Blue Inder to win the presidency, because if she
won all the Blue Wall and did not capture those
two congressional seats oude of Nebraska, she still could not
have been president. She would be one vote elect vote
electoral college. Okay, so Nebraska had she needed.

Speaker 7 (01:34:28):
Some looking goods.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
She needed those two. But I'm saying in twenty twenty,
Joe Biden got only got one. Someone and I'm on
the live chat for the Breakfast Club's YouTube channel. There's
over ten thousand people in here, and someone is asking
for Yeah, thank you guys for tuning. And someone is
asking if you guys can talk more about North Carolina
because it's really close.

Speaker 5 (01:34:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Yes, we expected it to be close.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
One of the things that I think is really important
for us to note is that Shakiah Harris is.

Speaker 9 (01:34:54):
What, Oh God, anyway, Shakia, we love you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Ignore Leonard, you could say something smart mouth dam didn't like.
But I think the one thing that's important here is
in North Carolina, this has been a state that we
have not won. It's Barack Obama in two thousand and eight,
and so Kamala Harris winning this tonight, if she does,
it will be another history making years demonstrates demonstrates that

(01:35:25):
black folks, when they're at the top of the ticket,
can capture states that some other folks can't.

Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
Well, I will tell you earn the music.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Folks walking at home, they just dropped it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Beyond thank you for that questionround.

Speaker 8 (01:35:40):
She didn't need, she didn't need North Carolina to win
the race for president and the electoral college. North Carolina
would be icing on the cake for us if we
were able to get it, and it is absolutely expected
to be close if it comes over at all.

Speaker 9 (01:35:54):
I knocked on doors in North Carolina on Sunday, so
I'm expecting a victory, and I spoke at church.

Speaker 5 (01:36:02):
You know, another grievance. I think Trump speaks to I
think he speaks to the poor better than it's poor period.
When people hear people, when you hear.

Speaker 6 (01:36:13):
Somebody talking about you know, uh, you can't pay your bills,
and you can't keep food on your table, you can't
keep a roof over your head and needs it. But
then he'll mix in these are the people taking the
jobs from you. This is why you can't eat. I
think all of that works. I think that that's not true,
but I think it's I think it's more rooted than this.

(01:36:35):
This is this is what I think is causing more
more of a racially diverse coalition to come into the
Republican Party because they're speaking to this a lot more.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
They are it's a mirage, but they are speaking to it.

Speaker 15 (01:36:44):
They have the beauty of being able to say things
like so, first of all, at what point of Donald
Trump's like, does you represent better my lived expirit?

Speaker 8 (01:36:55):
I mean, the man got a million doll alone from
his dad and started business. I ain't never seen a million.
I did grow up with it. I mean, you were
rich in our community if you took your family to
McDonald's on the weekend for a meal. It was so
the fact that he can embody that better than almost
any politician is insane to me. But I get it

(01:37:16):
because you're right, Charlomagney speaks to it and then he
tells you who's to blame for it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
None of us are ever going to.

Speaker 8 (01:37:23):
Do that one because it actually isn't the truth for
many of us in our places.

Speaker 7 (01:37:28):
Oh, he's a marketing genius too. Like he had the
radio this morning. He was like, yeah, you know, I
was richer, I had more money with Donald Trump. But
it's just what Donald Trump has been saying for so
long people, not just Trump Republicans.

Speaker 6 (01:37:39):
I guess it's mind boggling to me that, you know,
since World War Two, the economy has always done significantly
better with a Democrat president, but they haven't.

Speaker 8 (01:37:47):
Been able to make If they don't, we don't say it, right, yeah,
and we don't celebrate it either, But you're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
We're the ones who improve the economy.

Speaker 8 (01:37:53):
They're the ones who take money from you give it
to the top one percent, but then run on campaigns
about you not being able.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
To keep a rooping with your head.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Why do democratics that's so scary around money and Republicans
like were scared to I feel like I feel like, well,
this is just my assumption. I feel like Republicans are
not afraid to tell you, like, look, this is how
I grew up, but this is what I got, this
is what I've done.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
That's why I can get you with us. I feel
like we always have to be the like humble, the
I'm still I feel you, I'm still here with you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
And I think there's a lifestyle that people aspire to
and want. Everybody wants to you watch Trump to eat
in your house for a long time. Everybody wants to
lift this lifestyle, have this money, and they see him
and he leans into it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
We just I don't know why, why do we have
to know that? I don't know that.

Speaker 9 (01:38:35):
I don't know that on this side of the like
on the Democratic side of how that people are that
rich either, Like I think the most important thing to
understand is like Donald Trump is a failed businessman who
has projected riches but not rich at all. And even
especially after these court cases and the financis had to
pay and have to borrow money to pay them. But
Kamala Harris on the other side, talks about being raised

(01:38:56):
in a middle class household and she went straight from
law school into public service.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
But inspiration never does win.

Speaker 9 (01:39:05):
Yeah, I'm just saying that the reason why there's kind
of leaning in here is because that would be false.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
But he is false too. His lean into it about that.

Speaker 8 (01:39:14):
But I think that it's it's people like to vote
for something that looks like a success, and he exudes
success even though all of his businesses crumbled underneath his thumb.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
But he's marketing suggests otherwise marketing.

Speaker 8 (01:39:29):
I mean, he owns a company right now that ain't
nobody own his platform and it's and it is it
is somehow value that of the same value of media.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
Yeah, well he's the.

Speaker 6 (01:39:42):
Social Hey, I just want you all to know that
Trump is at two ten and the old people in
South Caroline is panic and I'm looking at a group chet.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Well, let me tell you guys, Facebook, the group chats
the old people is not how many great?

Speaker 6 (01:39:57):
Oh Jesus is definitely green. It looks like look like
we're in trouble. Trump is overperforming.

Speaker 9 (01:40:06):
Where is he overperforming? I don't know, as I think
that's the question we have to answer. If they can
point us to the states where he's overperforming, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:40:15):
Inconceivable. He said, this is inconceivable.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Let me let me ask you, Guysia.

Speaker 9 (01:40:18):
This one thing that we've seen, and we saw it
happen in Florida as well, Andrew in twenty eighteen. There
are several ballot initiatives in states all over the country.
One that's up in Arizona is Proposition of one thirty nine,
which is the right to abortion. Right now, that ballot
initiative to ensure that there is a right to abortion
in the state is overperforming Vice President Harris right now,

(01:40:42):
that is, yes, it's a sixty three point one percent
of the vote.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
Whereas she's performing and I lost. Oh, here it is.

Speaker 9 (01:40:50):
She currently has forty nine point five percent of the
vote to Donald Trump's forty nine point six.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
She's neck and neck. But that right to abortion is overperforming.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
I'm interested to see me.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
I'm interested. Yeah, I'm interested to see why that is.

Speaker 9 (01:41:05):
Because if federally they're able to ban abortion, that state
ballot initiative does not matter.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
It gets Trump, it gets prompted because of federalism. I
would argue that most people likely do not understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
I know they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
And I will say something controversial that I'm disagreeing with
with Charlemagne about you know, him speaking to the poor,
and this is what people care about.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
I'm going to say something that people don't like to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Most people in this country are are not intellectually curious
about a lot of things. And I think Trump's rise
to power has coincided with the dumbing down of the
American electorate and the confluence of things that led to that.
If you ask, most people are where are you getting
your information from? Most people are not reading papers. Most
people are not even curious enough to read a website.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
But it's fear. It's also fear.

Speaker 7 (01:41:54):
It's the fact that he's saying immigrants have come and
taking you jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
But you can look and see if that information is
true or not. Like I read probably eight papers every day.
But there are things that when you read the article
and then you see what's on television, it is a
snapshot of something.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Yeah, you don't see that they'll see the schools are clothes.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
Of course, but hotel.

Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
You don't have to be intelligent to know that you
can't eat, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
I agree with that because they're real life.

Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
They don't haven't had the time to do this because
you're trying to figure out Okay, bet so my kids.
But if you have the time, that's my problem. If
you can sit on Instagram for an hour, you have
the time to look at a camp.

Speaker 8 (01:42:35):
But do you have the time to even if they did.
Right now, with the disinformation of information.

Speaker 7 (01:42:40):
You don't know what's true or what's not.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
You don't know, and you can find an opinion out
there that looks reflects your view.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
But I would be on Facebook, send all the wrong,
all the wrong my cousins from Facebook. I'll be like,
get off the Internet, I said to my mother. Chair respond.

Speaker 9 (01:42:58):
I do want to say too. There's one of they're
disparity I want to talk about.

Speaker 13 (01:43:01):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
I just talked about abortion on the ballot in Arizona.

Speaker 9 (01:43:05):
One of the other things that we haven't talked a
lot about tonight are split tickets. So some people will
vote Democrat or Republican at the top of the ballot
and then do something different when they go down ballot.
One place where we're seeing that again is in North Carolina.
We talked earlier about the craziness that was Mark Robinson,
who's only captured forty percent of the vote to Josh

(01:43:26):
Stein's fifty five point one percent of the vote. But
when you look at Kamala Harris's percentage right now, it's
it's significantly lower. She's at forty seven point eight percent
to Donald Trump's fifty point eight percent, so it's slightly
under three percent. There's difference between them, but the other
the gubernatorial candidate Molly wopped Mark Robinson.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
Would've been nice to see consistence.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
But we talked about splint tickets earlier that there are
people who will vote for the top of the ticket
and then vote differently down valley, especially on some of
those ballid initiatives. But I still maintain that people do
that because they don't understand the process and how it works.
And I'm not blaming that exclusively on people voters and
non voters. I think there's a lot of shared responsibility
in that. But we have to at some point start

(01:44:11):
holding voters accountable for having the intellectual curiosity to at
least go out and look and find information. And I
don't buy this that people don't have time, because it
might be if they have time to send articles on Facebook,
you have time to go.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
To the source. You can literally go to the campaigns
and see where people.

Speaker 7 (01:44:28):
So let me ask you a question. With an hour
before we get to midnight Eastern time, what should we
be looking for? What should we be seeing?

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Jesus, what's to be coming in now?

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
I don't know if that we'll see the major states.
I don't know that we'll get results tonight from Pennsylvania.

Speaker 8 (01:44:47):
Well, again depends on how quickly how many people accounting
the Pennsylvania with Trump at two ten, what state could
come in right now? Or you'd be like all right, bro,
so California could come in and he would be less
than where she is behind her. Oh so yeah, the
whole state is that, all of the state, all of
his votes will go one way or the other.

Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
And if we thought sixteen I remember when Hillary went
CALLI and they're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
Shoot, no, no, no, you asked now when midnight what
might what?

Speaker 10 (01:45:14):
What?

Speaker 6 (01:45:14):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
For him?

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
He would not have would happen.

Speaker 8 (01:45:17):
It's a big thing that can happen for any of them.
It is going to be a state by state. I
mean there will be states that will put huge numbers
back in her column. That's when California comes through. But
if I were voted right now wondering about what I
should be paying attention to, right I would be tracking
the Michigan outcome. And again I think they were at
fifty to fifty two percent of the vote being counted

(01:45:38):
there Wisconsin, Uh, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
Is there one percentage point a difference right now?

Speaker 8 (01:45:49):
Fifty six has a lot more than encountered, So so
they will have to continue to watch those. And then
I would throw in there Nevada and Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
Yeah, I have a question about you keep mentioning Nevada.
I was listening to CNN earlier today and they were
saying that if Kamala doesn't win Pennsylvania, she shouldn't. She
doesn't have to worry because she can grab Nevada and
the Arizona and one other state.

Speaker 9 (01:46:14):
Uh, how do you got? It just depends, so we
have to actually look at the map. We encourage all
the viewers at home to do the same. There is
electoral college maps and Lauren on here too. You can
mark I've been putting the numbers on the line I
don't have. I've been saying I need to get on
my phone. So you were saying Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada's battleground, uh, Arizona.

(01:46:36):
You just said Pennsylvania, North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Georgia, Orgia.

Speaker 8 (01:46:40):
North Carolina and Georgia are not states that are must
win states for her.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
To win them depending on how the rest of the.

Speaker 8 (01:46:47):
Map, assuming the blue wall holes, which I don't have
a reason to think that it wouldn't, but if it,
if it, if it held, she won't need either of
those two states to make the difference for her other.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
Than so they just said.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
I just want to shout out myself because they just
said seeing that Nebraska's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
I said that. Everybody blew me off.

Speaker 7 (01:47:07):
I did.

Speaker 5 (01:47:08):
We've got another text from a ol G.

Speaker 6 (01:47:11):
What is happening on the phone with over eighty so
over eighty o G. Her but's getting kicked still with
the hell married past God willing.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
There to the states.

Speaker 5 (01:47:22):
What the streets are saying, what the streets saying.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
Look, what I want you to do is look at
knowing compared to twenty twenty, I.

Speaker 8 (01:47:32):
Had lost and we went to bed about two am. Yeah,
and I was fully prepared for a Trump presidency when
I woke up, and we woke up the next day.
The numbers have flipped in the ensuing days. They're not
It's not that they flipped me all the count Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:47:47):
I want to make sure that we're very careful about
our language because we're expecting political violence from people that
are suspecting that the election is rigged.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
When you look at the exit polls for Trump.

Speaker 9 (01:47:57):
Supporters and be there saying that they don't trust the
pro even though they're turning out in large numbers, they're
saying they don't trust that the voting process is one
built in integrity. Well, we're not saying that now votes
are gonna flip to her. What we're saying is there
are significant states that you need to count to get
to to seventy that aren't in yet.

Speaker 8 (01:48:15):
Right I'm talking about the existing states that right now
look as if they are Trump states, And as the
vote continues to be counted and the tally is totaled,
they end up in a different column. And they're not
ending up there because they're being stolen. They end up
there because the vote tallies dictate that that's exactly where

(01:48:36):
you are supposed to be. The only reason why I
keep saying I went to bed thinking one way is
because if you're in a mood right now and.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
You're wondering whether or not you know we're repeating history.

Speaker 8 (01:48:48):
We are repeating history, except it's twenty twenty history and
not twenty sixteen.

Speaker 5 (01:48:52):
That's twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
Yeah, it looks it's almost up the same. Look at it.

Speaker 9 (01:48:55):
So I'm showing Letard turn your computer this way. Tip
is probably looking at it on our phone. Turn turn
your computer. Well, actually, turn you over that way, George.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
I want you to come.

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
This is twenty I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:49:07):
Oh okay, okay, so now can you shake your shoulders
a little bit down there? Watching? I thought I heard
a little juvenile okay.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
Oh my god, Yeah, they're playing with you that. I
heard it. I heard it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
I'm trying to focus up here.

Speaker 7 (01:49:28):
I heard.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
How are you feeling?

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
The old people?

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
Honestly, right now, I feel like I'm learning in real
time because I feel like I've never paid this much
attention for this long. On election night, I think I
go vote. We listened a little bit, Go to sleep,
wake up, it's whatever. So I think in real time
I'm learning just how these things can slowly progress.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
And yeah, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
I honestly for the last I would say maybe like
two weeks. I don't really feel anything. I'm just kind
of waiting for whatever's going to happen so I can
figure out what.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
I have to do. You can brace.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
I'm at the point in my life where like, whatever happens,
I got to deal with it. I know what I
want to have home.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
I'm very hopeful.

Speaker 7 (01:50:09):
I'm praying, and you know, with us jumping into politics
like we did in the last couple of years, just.

Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
So, I have so many questions why right the last
couple we've been doing it for about a.

Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
More seriously last I would say six seven years, But
you know, I want to I have questions like why,
like why we still played with his electorial votes like
I said earlier, why is it not just not the
popular vote?

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
Like I get electoral college.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
I want to see Lauren and Envy run a campaign
to get rid of the electoral college.

Speaker 7 (01:50:35):
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
I just think it's I think it was what would
be better.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
There actually are people doing that work that they joined
and the Eric cold former Attorney General airic Holder, who
was the Attorney General under President Obama. He was posing
question a lot and you know, they said what would
it take to get rid of the electoral College? And
he they said, well, you know that's a heavy lift.
And he said, well, then we have to lift heavy.
So his organization is actually fighting to do that. You

(01:51:01):
can fund that organization, You can host something for him,
you can be a part of it. As long as
long as you're asking the questions, why, be sure to
have an answer, contribute to the answer, be a part
of the solution. How effective is it is it like,
because I feel like with the Green Party situation, like
it's not effected, but it's there.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
Is what he is his campaign.

Speaker 8 (01:51:24):
I will tell you honestly, I think it's going to
be near impossible to get white people to say we
will give up our power, and that's what that's what
will be required. Theyn't have to say we're willing to
give up our power. So in republic, so in the
state of Florida, we would benefit greatly by a populist
vote being able to make a decision, Except that I

(01:51:45):
also know that if I did that, the majority of
populated places are democratic and they will choose Democrats every
time in a popular vote. So if your power is
derived from people making policies that benefit largely white Republican voters,
why would I change. I'm not giving it away. So

(01:52:08):
I think it is going to and because you got
to get two thursds of states to agree to a
change in the constitution, we better start spreading out.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
And you know, h it's our advantage going nowhere. I
want to I just really quick.

Speaker 9 (01:52:22):
I wanted to just highlight some of these valid initiatives again.
Colorado Amendments seventy nine, the right to abortion and health
insurance coverage.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Passed and Florida went down.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Florida, it did not pass.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
Maryland marijuana, oh wow, went down.

Speaker 9 (01:52:38):
Maryland passed the right to abortion amendment, and there's a
few others that are still out. New York also passed
the right to abortion amendments. So when you guys talk
about why envy, we have to figure out a way
to engage people beyond just candidates.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
We have to so many of these valid initiatives.

Speaker 9 (01:52:57):
There were more than one hundred and forty I believe
in forty plus states, and fifty seven of those were
led by citizens. They weren't led by elected officials, They
didn't come down from state legislatures. We gotta figure out
a way to get people involved. What we do know
is the way that we've done it has historically just
barely worked. But I think there are a whole lot
more people out here in this country that think like us,

(01:53:18):
who are just disenfranchised, who feel like they've never been
heard and ever seen by the political process. So I'm
so grateful to be doing this show with y'all tonight
as Leonard zones out, because I think I think that
we need to be with y'all to figure out what
how can we make this conversation more pedestrian, more accessible,
and more tangible so people feel like there is a
pathway to.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
Victory for them with building political power.

Speaker 7 (01:53:41):
You think celebrity works, because we were talking about this
on the Breakfast Club. Do you think all these you know,
needing all these celebrities to speak and celebrities to perform?
In celebrities he doesn't mean anything though.

Speaker 6 (01:53:54):
For whatever reason, it doesn't seem like celebrity works for Democrats,
But for some strange reason, the celebrity billion it works
for Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
I don't think it works for either. But I tell
you what they do do because I ran.

Speaker 8 (01:54:08):
A campaign that's solicited celebrities to come in and help
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
What they do is they bring attention.

Speaker 8 (01:54:15):
They bring the news to stories that don't you know,
if you're not getting pressed, they can help get you some.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
You'll take advantage of that.

Speaker 8 (01:54:22):
But it has been surveyed, it's been polled, it's been
proven that the most influential voice to change your perspective
one way, as it relates to who you might support
or not support, is a person that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
You know personally.

Speaker 8 (01:54:36):
So we have the most influence over the family we have.
We have the most influence over our true friends, the
folks who look to you. They trust you, and they
believe you. But celebrities bring attention, and I think that's
a value to a campaign. But when you think about endorsements,
it's the endorsements of the person you know, you trust,
you have a relationship with that's gonna move you to

(01:54:59):
vote a certain way or to vote at all. It's
gonna be our family people be knowing that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
I don't think celebrity works on the right either. I
don't think there are people who are voting for Donald
Trump because Haulk Hogan shows up or Kid Rock shows up,
who's not even deliberate votes for Trump?

Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
I head support.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
I do. So you think there were people who were
I'm not going to vote for Donald Trump. Oh but wait,
Elon must support? What about the way to manipulate that
all that is different? That's not celebrity.

Speaker 6 (01:55:28):
I haven't watched it, but a lot of people have
been raving about the interview he just did with Joe Rogan.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
Oh my god, it's all over everything.

Speaker 6 (01:55:34):
I haven't watched it, but they're saying what they was like, yo,
he stealed the deal. He sold me on I'm not
even yes, I've heard that our business.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
You're saying what now, must did an interview like two days.

Speaker 5 (01:55:49):
Or three days ago.

Speaker 6 (01:55:51):
Everybody was saying how he They was like, yo, he
stealed the deal for I don't even know what he said.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
I would go back to my earlier point about the
dumbing down of the American electorate when Joe Rogan is
your goal to person who can convince you to vote
one way or another, Musk.

Speaker 9 (01:56:05):
Elon Musk didn't just do that interview though, He's literally
changed the algorithm on Twitter, so that we're seeing a
lot of conservative and and miss I feel like it
should be, especially when he went on stage and was like,
I got a million dollars viny to show me that
you registered to vote somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
Whether say it was just projected for vice president here, I.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
Don't know, but I know he got to look crazy.
Everybody people down here.

Speaker 6 (01:56:31):
I think that we complicate a lot of these things,
and it's it's just kind of simple, That's what I'm saying.
It's literally about people want to feel like they got
more money in their pocket and they want to feel safe,
and that is Those are two very simple things that
for some reason Democrats aren't able to.

Speaker 9 (01:56:47):
So why do they believe the Republican who has a
track record in the history of saying this is not
a thing, are saying this is gonna happen, but it
actually is not a thing. Versus democratic administrations that have
proven over and over again through tax credits, through trying
to democratize what's happening with She's.

Speaker 3 (01:57:06):
Coming to grab me, about to go down there with
the people and be down there.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
We can back and forth a little bit, Okay, in
my heel was about to track it down there to
be outside with the before you guys, what you say,
don't you sitting here looking like a can blow your
hands gonna be blowing white toes.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
Don't see it. Keep the light skins out of it. Lauren,
we was all together.

Speaker 5 (01:57:28):
Tell them we got got her retail comb to get
up under her.

Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
Home.

Speaker 9 (01:57:34):
When you do, he just man that he needs when
I get to the Hey, we can't wait to hear
from you, Laura, We're gonna see you down there.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
Okay, what California is in?

Speaker 9 (01:57:47):
Which what Andrew was saying earlier that the lead will
decrease once California comes in.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
She's not ahead, but.

Speaker 9 (01:57:52):
The lead is significantly discre decreased with California coming in.
So tell all them South Carolinians, see what can I'll
lower that.

Speaker 5 (01:58:01):
What I do mat what I said? I see them
the map and I said this was the map in
twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
What else it not that she came back. She came
in updating us on something we already doing. Lauren, need
headpoles that ain't delayed. Oh baby, I'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Curious to know what percent of the vote is in
in Pennsylvania, Michigan.

Speaker 9 (01:58:21):
So right now on the map that I have, it
says too close to call sixty eight percent in in
Pennsylvania and Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
U's too. Of course, it reloaded while I was talking.

Speaker 5 (01:58:31):
Pennsylvania.

Speaker 6 (01:58:32):
For me, I got sixty seven percent reporting and fifty
one percent for Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:58:36):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:58:37):
North Carolina eighty six percent reporting, fifty point nine percent
for Trump, Michigan twenty seven percent reporting, fifty one point
two percent for Trump. Georgia ninety percent reporting fifty one
point one percent for Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:58:50):
Jesus Wisconsin is sixty percent.

Speaker 5 (01:58:53):
Reporting, fifty point four percent for Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
Now I got forty nine point nine and she's she's
at forty eight point four percent, which is just a
little under two percent, and the very very close races.

Speaker 9 (01:59:03):
What we need to remember. Tiffany said this earlier as well.
Some of the last counties to be counted are the blackest,
and most and the most urban counties because they are
significantly larger counties, so those are normally holdouts. They're also
the ones that experienced the most death threats, the most harassment,

(01:59:24):
and so and we've seen that across the board, both
in southern states like Georgia and of course in Pennsylvania,
as we reported earlier today.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
Well, regardless of the tactics, somebody win those states.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
But there was an incident at a polling site earlier
this week in South Carolina that Bakari Sellers shared with us.
He posted it on Twitter, and it was all the
polling workers. All the poll workers were black women. I'm
sure you've seen this. And the white man with the
mega hat on, he was not supposed to be in

(01:59:55):
there with the hat on. They were trying to ask
him to take it off, and he wouldn't, and and
he got he physically confronted the black women.

Speaker 3 (02:00:03):
I watched that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
It was about six or seven black women and this
this white man, and he got violent with them. And
I watched that and I knew instantly that he would
never have behaved that way had those been black men
in that room.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
They only act like that when they're good.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
I felt like all the black women should the one
woman had the cane. I'm like, y'all should have took
that cane and beat the crap out of that dude,
because I gotta assume my life is in danger if
you're confront of me like that. But I bring that
up to say One, the threats of political violence are real.
We have tangible evidence of that. But two, these are
the people Charlemagne that you're saying, what do we do
on the other side of this? I have no interest

(02:00:42):
in connecting with that man. I already know who he is.
I already know who those pockets of people are, And
I wonder how emboldened these folks will continue to be
regardless of how this race turns out. That's really what's
the main thing on my mind, because we may not
know what happens tonight, but regardless of what happens, there
is an ugly underbelly in this country that has been

(02:01:04):
unearthed in.

Speaker 3 (02:01:05):
A way that puts us all in harm's way.

Speaker 5 (02:01:08):
I think Jim said it's gonna be Jim crow point.
You might Cliburns the Cloudburns said it was gonna be
Jim pro two point.

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. Do you guys have
any concerns about that? Look, we all live in cities
where we're gonna be mostly safe. They're you know, progressive cities, uh,
in black cities. But I'm curious if you guys are
worried about family members or whatever.

Speaker 6 (02:01:32):
Don't I don't even think you can be I don't
think you can be safe in a progressive city.

Speaker 7 (02:01:36):
Yeah, I was gonna say that.

Speaker 5 (02:01:37):
Days over, I feel safe.

Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
I mean, I'm here in the nation's capital.

Speaker 7 (02:01:41):
I do feel I don't feel safe sometimes the journey,
especially for my kids going around. You know, I gotta
worry about my kids driving down the road and a
big pickup truck where a Trump flag comes and sees him,
and what they might do, what he might think about
doing if my son cuts him off by accident, what
they might, you know, possibly be doing for my son,
or same thing with my daughter. So I am very nervous,
and I've seen how it shifted in the last I

(02:02:02):
would say ten years before that, I didn't get that.
I didn't have that as much. But I seem like,
I feel like a lot of times when I see
that Trump flag, it's almost like a sign of racism
when I Yeah, So it does make me nervous. Regardless
of what state I live in or what state I visited,
I feel like it's everywhere. And then when I visit
these states and I visit these cities, and I'm doing
shows in these cities and I see people I was

(02:02:24):
in a Sophora. The other day, I was getting something
from my wife and a guy walked in with a
red Make America Gray had again, and it's scared to
shit out of me. It's just because it was shocking.
He was just going in there shopping. But that's what
that means to me when I look at it, and
it means that to a lot of people agree.

Speaker 9 (02:02:40):
It's so triggering, I think, especially I think it didn't
it was irritating in twenty sixteen, but after what happened
on January sixth, twenty twenty one, where you literally saw
the Trump flag, the Confederate flag, and the American flag
all together on January sixth, All of them are triggering
to me, but that one especially because it's like, I

(02:03:00):
understand everything that this man is connected to, but trump
Ism wins the day for me. It wins the day
for me over democracy. It wins the day for me
over whether or not we can be equal or not.
In fact, I don't want to share my power with you.
Is the message that I feels like they're sinning. So
I understand exactly what you're saying. I was telling my homegirls,
we were two of us were getting ready to go

(02:03:22):
eat in New York and this man was wearing a
make America Great Again hat and he passed me once
that he passed me twice, and then he came back
a third time, and by that time, Alicia was there,
and I was so scared.

Speaker 3 (02:03:33):
I was like, does he know who we are?

Speaker 1 (02:03:34):
Like?

Speaker 3 (02:03:35):
Is he coming to attack?

Speaker 9 (02:03:35):
I literally just got on the phone just because I
was waiting for our reservation at the restaurant. It is
so triggering and it's very scary. So in a place
like when it was, it's in New York, and it's
like in Tribeca.

Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
Right, It's not like you know in the Bronx or
it's the places where you know some of the other
folks can act a little different queens. It was literally
right there in Tribeca, and I was like, Okay, what's happening?
Do I get ready to I think we have to
like that. I think, yeah, I'm not condoning violence, but
if you are crazy enough to confront me, I have

(02:04:08):
to assume my life is in danger and I'm gonna
act accordingly. And I think when I saw that man
and how he treated those women, I assume their lives
were in danger. So if I'm in presence, and I'm
assuming somebody else's life is in danger, I'm gonna act
accordingly in that case too. So again, this is something
that transcends tonight's election results. This cycles election results. I

(02:04:30):
just think we have turned a point in this country
where the violence will become a lot more ubiquitous than
what we've seen previous.

Speaker 5 (02:04:40):
University why contemplating where he gonna move.

Speaker 1 (02:04:46):
The Podfather?

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
Come on, Chris, come up here? Chris? What were you saying?

Speaker 5 (02:04:50):
Well, Chris is coming up here?

Speaker 7 (02:04:51):
I was gonna say, so, we're on hu hamp Universe,
I said, Hipton Howard University's campus. Will Kamala Harris speak
to the crowd, regardless of what happens, she is gonna
come out, and he's gonna speak to the streets and
alumni and all that tonight. Would Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 5 (02:05:04):
I would wait for what?

Speaker 2 (02:05:06):
I don't know, Well, she has to. All these people
are here. She will definitely come out tonight.

Speaker 5 (02:05:10):
Will we would understand? I will't say this.

Speaker 7 (02:05:12):
Charlemagne and I were at Hillary Clinton's Lord celebration and
she didn't come out, So I was just asking her,
it's just definitely coming out.

Speaker 5 (02:05:22):
If she was to lose. It wouldn't feel like that.
Hillary was a complete and total shock, like, whoa, what
just happened? This isn't. She had the popular voice. This isn't.
This is a complete total shock.

Speaker 3 (02:05:34):
You said, this isn't.

Speaker 5 (02:05:35):
We're not.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
But we don't know yet.

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
We don't know yet.

Speaker 8 (02:05:38):
But if it was to happen, it wouldn't be a complete,
unexpected and unprecedented what we saw in twenty sixteen. Hillary
Clinton was really the first model for that, like what
do you do our? Gore was another model for it.
He didn't come out in two thousand.

Speaker 3 (02:05:58):
Uh another state for vice president?

Speaker 2 (02:06:05):
Here is And while we're waiting to see what that
state is, Chris Morrow, are you feeling bro?

Speaker 3 (02:06:09):
Who is are? We call him the pod Father?

Speaker 9 (02:06:12):
Tiffany I was combined the names because I always say
podcast godfather. He owes a reason choice with us. And
he was over there looking crazy enough for Lenard to
be like, look at gres, So we called him up here, Chris,
what's wrong with you?

Speaker 12 (02:06:23):
May?

Speaker 16 (02:06:24):
I'm not feeling great at the moment. I gotta be honest.

Speaker 3 (02:06:27):
Show him to overlay it the map, Lenards, so he
can calm down.

Speaker 7 (02:06:30):
He doesn't have to owe what he only.

Speaker 16 (02:06:31):
I mean I've been I've been updating every couple of seconds.
I mean, you know, I've been wandering around in the
crowd on trying to pick up some energy to boost
myself up. I'm not finding it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:41):
Tell me what what had you most concerned? Which states?

Speaker 3 (02:06:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:06:44):
You Pa?

Speaker 16 (02:06:45):
I mean, I'm a Pennsylvania native and rigually from Pennsylvania
today in Philadelphia. Well, I live in Brooklyn, so I
voted in New York. But you know, my mother was
at the polls this morning. She wasn't optimistic. So I'm
concerned about that. And and you know, maybe an hour ago,
I think Harris was up eleven, and now it's completely

(02:07:05):
swung and they have Trump up I think two right now,
with about sixty five percent of the voting.

Speaker 1 (02:07:10):
Two points.

Speaker 5 (02:07:11):
Yeah, I was sev seventy.

Speaker 3 (02:07:15):
And I assume Philadelphia has not been counted yet.

Speaker 16 (02:07:18):
No, And then you know, I'm I'm here having the
many existential crisis over there, and I'm like talking to people,
and people are like, these are the rural rural county
cities haven't been counted yet. Don't freak out. There's still
a long way to go. So I'm trying not to
freak out. Yeah don't, okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:07:36):
Yeah, I mean I was. I'll share with you.

Speaker 8 (02:07:38):
We went to bed in twenty twenty thinking that the
Democratic loss because similar maps were coming in until the
ensuing days and the votes continued to be counted, and
it's swaying the other direction, largely because absentee challenge ballots
as well as many of the urban centers don't come

(02:07:59):
into until later. They're the last and many places to
come in.

Speaker 9 (02:08:03):
And in states like Virginia right Like Virginia right now
is seventy nine percent and she's leading by two percentage points.
That's thirteen electoral votes right there too. So I think
that we just have to pay attention to the ones
they're too close to call, pay attention to the urban
centers that haven't yet been counted. Those are the larger
populations in those states. And then also the West Coast

(02:08:24):
because a lot of these to states, if they haven't
even they haven't even opened up, that closed the doors yet.

Speaker 6 (02:08:30):
One thing you showed me back from twenty twenty, Yeah,
was they flipped Georgia.

Speaker 5 (02:08:34):
In twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
Yeah, Georgia.

Speaker 5 (02:08:36):
Al looks like they flipped Georgia.

Speaker 1 (02:08:37):
They're not they don't have to, you know, they don't
have to.

Speaker 5 (02:08:40):
No, Okay, I think they could.

Speaker 3 (02:08:42):
Right now.

Speaker 9 (02:08:42):
It says there's eighty eight percent of precincts reporting and
he's got just barely a two percentage point lead over her.

Speaker 1 (02:08:49):
Again, Georgia's noted state I was putting in the Democratic column.

Speaker 3 (02:08:52):
It was a soutly purple thing. I mean, that was
the first time. That was a huge deal.

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
That took the work of a lot of people up
for that election cycle for Georgia to go blue.

Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
But I don't think we know that george is a
blue state.

Speaker 3 (02:09:04):
No, it's not. But I do think Georgia is decisively
a purple state.

Speaker 1 (02:09:08):
Now, I think it's competitive.

Speaker 9 (02:09:09):
Well, we talked about white folks earlier in states being
very white and that's why they're red. However, Orgon has
been called for Kamala Harris as well, and that is
very white.

Speaker 6 (02:09:18):
And there you got a live action Oregon Trail movie
coming out. I don't know if you' all excited about that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
I remember saying the hell of a transition. I remember
playing that.

Speaker 14 (02:09:25):
That was a game.

Speaker 5 (02:09:28):
I'm just trying to find some joy with the.

Speaker 1 (02:09:29):
Wheel flew out the wood wheel and you had to.

Speaker 5 (02:09:33):
Shoot the bison.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
Yeah, it was the food.

Speaker 3 (02:09:36):
You play that.

Speaker 7 (02:09:37):
Let me let me ask you guys a question.

Speaker 1 (02:09:39):
Was wall is the right pick?

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:09:41):
I think so. No, I don't think. I don't think
it makes a difference.

Speaker 3 (02:09:45):
Yeah, that's right, that's true.

Speaker 5 (02:09:47):
It could have. It could have.

Speaker 6 (02:09:48):
I don't think, because because she was a VP who
made a difference for a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (02:09:52):
I did.

Speaker 1 (02:09:54):
I would have that's a good point. Definitely made difference
from me. I don't think.

Speaker 5 (02:09:59):
I I think Josh Shapiro would have made a big
difference statistically.

Speaker 1 (02:10:02):
I think it would have been harmful to her.

Speaker 2 (02:10:04):
I think he would have. Yeah, she already has enough
baggage with the ceasefire people. I think having a Zionist
on the ticket with her would have been detrimental to her.

Speaker 6 (02:10:13):
Yeah, but then be on her side until it cease
like they were.

Speaker 3 (02:10:17):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
I don't know about that. I think that there are
people who can say, you know, I can hold my
nose and vote for her. As you know, I don't
anticipate something different happening. We had Mark Lamont Hill on
the on our live show from Philly yesterday talk about that.
But I mean, I asked you will recall I asked
Governor Shapiro when we were at the d n C

(02:10:38):
his thoughts on Gaza, and he is is very clearly
he feels very strongly in support of of of Israel.
And look, nobody is not in support of Israel, but
we are just equally in support of a Palestinian's right
to life and safety and the Palestinian's right to exist.
I think having somebody who doesn't feel that way, or

(02:11:00):
who does not openly project to feel that way, it
would have been.

Speaker 5 (02:11:04):
Trump definitely don't feel that way.

Speaker 1 (02:11:05):
He definitely don't.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
But the questions have Yeah, he's been out.

Speaker 9 (02:11:14):
Yeah, I agree with you that. Where I agree with
that too, it's not covered. Where they found Walls is
where they should have left Walls.

Speaker 3 (02:11:24):
That was on No.

Speaker 1 (02:11:25):
No, no, I'm not saying that shady.

Speaker 9 (02:11:28):
No, I'm not saying I'm not saying in Minnesota. What
people don't understand is that Tim Walls was absolutely campaigning
for the VP slot. As soon as things started moving.
He was one of the first most profound pundits on
cable news. They should have left him there, They should
have never tried to restrain him on he was on

(02:11:52):
cable news. As a governor. As soon as at the
top of the ticket, he went on immediately and was
defending her. He's the one that came with the weirdo
messaging frame. He was very effective on cable news. They
sought to restrain him when he got to the top
or when he became number two on the ticket, and
I think that was a very ineffective strategy.

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
Now it will be the best thing ever if they
pull this thing out. But but I will tell you,
and they noticed, I've said the whole time, I'm very
I'm very intrigued by Jos Shapiro. I think the way
that he connects with people. I've interviewed with him, with y'all,
he's very, very good and effective. But I do I
have to agree with timp We did hear Marklea mint

(02:12:29):
Hill say on the show yesterday. As you all know,
markle mont Hill is a member of the Green Party.
He said he's voting for Kamala Harris and she felt
he felt like she sent a strong signal to them
by picking I'm not picking Jos Shapiro.

Speaker 6 (02:12:40):
You know what, bringing joy, watching people enjoy their food
and watching over there going on.

Speaker 2 (02:12:46):
Why, Well, I think Charla Magne needs some joy, some
more joy, and shortly we are going to be joyed
by one of the most joyful women I know, and
that's Natasha Brown, a black voters matter.

Speaker 3 (02:13:06):
But don't go anywhere. She's in the building.

Speaker 7 (02:13:10):
Can run to the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (02:13:11):
Okay, she's here, Oh she is. We're ready while you
take a bio break that you want to come. You
don't want to miss it. Yeah, you want to be
and don't get my tracksuit mess up? And oh my god.

Speaker 5 (02:13:26):
One thing about Lajah Brown Brown is the realist now yeah, yeah,
you don't tell you.

Speaker 3 (02:13:33):
Right here?

Speaker 2 (02:13:34):
Oh Chris Morrow. Okay, Chris Morrow said, take his Latasha.
Let's forget Latashatasha to come on. We all tell her
to get off the phone. Where by if she were
going on any other network. We get off the headphones.
Can lolo get some headphones that work?

Speaker 3 (02:13:51):
This is not work.

Speaker 5 (02:13:52):
Come Chris, you sure you don't want the edible?

Speaker 3 (02:13:56):
I mean, you guys have better property. There are no edibles.

Speaker 1 (02:14:02):
It's just a joke.

Speaker 2 (02:14:03):
Latasha, come on, arown, come on down, come on honey,
right here, right over there. Thanks Chris Morrow, Thanks podfather,
come sit right next to then. Like even though he's
different here you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:22):
So we are fan. Wasn't she your VP s She
wasn't amazing?

Speaker 3 (02:14:27):
Somebody is waving for the people watching.

Speaker 1 (02:14:29):
Amazing professor here Howard University.

Speaker 2 (02:14:34):
He was waving. Doctor Kia Grant was waving and Andrew.
But we are joined by Latasha Brown, sister Blackwaters Matter.
She runs that with Cliff all right, and we are
so happy to have you on set, Latasha, because Charlemagne
has been trying to bring.

Speaker 3 (02:14:49):
Our joy in.

Speaker 5 (02:14:50):
I'm just I'm just looking at the realistic. I'm trying
to deal with reality.

Speaker 3 (02:14:55):
Push closer.

Speaker 1 (02:14:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:14:58):
I'm just trying to think about all possibilities and all
possible outcomes.

Speaker 1 (02:15:02):
Well, it's still a pathway, okay, Like it's still a pathway.

Speaker 13 (02:15:05):
And listen, the bottom line is for black folk, like
at the end of the day, what do we do
when it's easy at the end of the day, Like
I hear, but there's no major surprises. I mean, I
think the only surprise though, is how to hear all
these millions of people of voting for this man like
that we know it. But really, what's gonna happen to night?

(02:15:27):
I will say this, whatever happens tonight is a reflection
of this country. That's right, That's just the truth. It's
a reflection of where we are, what we think about ourselves,
and what we think about each other as neighbors.

Speaker 1 (02:15:37):
And so that is the truth we can depend on that.

Speaker 9 (02:15:39):
You guys have knocked on so many doors and made
so many contacts with voters, both old and new. Latasha,
what are some of the surprises you saw in the
field in some of the states.

Speaker 3 (02:15:49):
As Angela joined them, by the way, she was docking,
I messed up, I said, nord docking on a if
I've never.

Speaker 1 (02:16:00):
Lived down I was, Angela was in these streets.

Speaker 13 (02:16:06):
I know somefing like I think the biggest surprise, there
were no real big surprise. I think that the biggest,
My biggest surprise where we were talking to people a
few days ago and they were saying that they were
going to vote on like middle age folks, they were
going to vote on election day. They weren't gonna vote
on early voting because they didn't trust voting on early voting,
And so that was a surprise to me.

Speaker 3 (02:16:26):
Right, I was really shocked to hear that.

Speaker 13 (02:16:28):
Have you heard that in Georgia or I heard that
in Georgia, but there were multiple states right that there is.
There's a lot of trust been eroded from across the
country with some of the stuff that Trump has been seeing.
It's so interesting because we don't think that it's hurtful,
but it's been hurtful for the.

Speaker 1 (02:16:44):
Entire process, and so.

Speaker 3 (02:16:48):
I want surprised.

Speaker 13 (02:16:48):
I said he was gonna win. Now Georgia, I'm a
little I'm still trying to all.

Speaker 1 (02:16:52):
The little face.

Speaker 3 (02:16:52):
Wait are you saying they projected?

Speaker 5 (02:16:54):
They called it?

Speaker 3 (02:16:59):
That's fine, yes, yes, distance the distance? How are you
in North Carolina? How you feeling? How you feeling?

Speaker 1 (02:17:12):
You know, I am in this moment.

Speaker 3 (02:17:16):
I'm scared.

Speaker 7 (02:17:17):
His hair right.

Speaker 3 (02:17:21):
Up here, I'm holding my joy. But they got nothing
with me being.

Speaker 5 (02:17:31):
I don't want no hope.

Speaker 3 (02:17:32):
You got up here?

Speaker 2 (02:17:33):
Leonard said, where bring Natasha because she's a realist. Listen,
he's did say that before you got it. You know
it is what is scaring you? She just said she's scared.

Speaker 13 (02:17:45):
Yeah, the number scaring the number number. You know, Georgia,
it's too close in Georgia. I really thought that Georgia
was gonna have a different outcome. North Carolina, I said,
North Carolina, I wasn't surprised by North Carolina Arizona'm a
little surprised, but you know, I really thought that arige Zona,
that she would perform better in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (02:18:08):
It's gotta be the results.

Speaker 9 (02:18:11):
Only it's too close. But it's only fifty one percent. Okay,
do you think he's gonna win Arizona? I?

Speaker 3 (02:18:21):
Yes, you think he's win. Lord, what are your thoughts.
I'm a little disappointed that Georgia.

Speaker 1 (02:18:29):
Oh I am super disappointed. Yeah happened.

Speaker 5 (02:18:33):
Didn't say she had the magical powers. The mobilized people
in Georgia. Like what happened?

Speaker 2 (02:18:36):
Well, let me say safety Abrams did a lot. I
never want to take away from what but I just
want to say she did not do that work alone.
But Rasha has been on the ground, like for decades, Black.

Speaker 13 (02:18:47):
Voters listenis did her work, and there's been a lot
of groups that have been doing work. But we're going
to have to actually say voter suppression doesn't go away
because we're working hard.

Speaker 1 (02:18:58):
We actually have to overcome that. So we're seeing that
in the South.

Speaker 13 (02:19:02):
This year alone, y'all has been over three hundred bills
been passed around voter suppression.

Speaker 1 (02:19:06):
So for all of us. It's been harder this year.

Speaker 3 (02:19:09):
Quote.

Speaker 13 (02:19:09):
That's just a reality, and so ultimately that doesn't make
it's still it's like you're moving the gold poles and
you gotta jump higher, you gotta jump higher, and then
when you don't jump that high, then it becomes like
a reflection on something wrong with you. You're working our
tails off in Georgia, right, we went on the ground
doing our work. But when you are pershing hundreds of
thousands of voters, when you're creating laws and make it
much more difficult for people in the process, it hasn't

(02:19:32):
a cumulative effect. So we're gonna deal with that. Whether
Harris wins or not, that's still a reality that we're faced,
particularly in the South, which is why we need voter
We need to make sure that we have stronger voter rights.

Speaker 3 (02:19:42):
Who is the guy you were on the panel with
in Georgia, the Secretary?

Speaker 1 (02:19:46):
It wasn't, Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (02:19:49):
Yeah, so this is a concern of mine. Yeah, he's
a jackass.

Speaker 2 (02:19:52):
But I want to say this because he did a
sixty minutes profile Tim and he said something that I
thought was so telling. He said, voter suppression is not real,
and neither is like what I'm paraphrasing, but essentially neither
is this idea that you're stealing an election.

Speaker 3 (02:20:11):
I know, basically the left.

Speaker 2 (02:20:12):
Is wrong and Donald Trump, I mean white folks at
slavery was good job precisely. But they uplifted him because
he did the right thing. He became a hero for
doing what he was supposed to do. It's like if
I go into a store and I don't steal nothing,
I'm all of a sudden the hero because he didn't
find these eleven thousand votes for Donald Trump. This is
my challenge because I think so many people were so

(02:20:34):
willing to celebrate him, and yet we do still see
rampant voter suppression in this of Georgia, and people think, no,
we fixed all those problems, We solved all those problems.
So I think it's so crucial what you just said,
we are climbing hurdles.

Speaker 13 (02:20:48):
We're climbing hurdles. Yes, we're climbing mountains. It wasn't even
in twenty twenty two. As matter of fact, each of
the in twenty twenty two, what we saw people kept saying, well,
see this, no voter suppression, because it's been high voter
turnout right, as if we didn't. The amount of resources,
the time, and the energy that we're doing around getting people,

(02:21:08):
making sure that people are voting, making sure that folks
have access to the balance, that's crazy, right, It's really
uncomfortable where we're going. So at the end of the day,
when we're seeing this, we still have to factor in
voter suppression whatever. Regardless of the outcome, voter suppression is
real and it's impacting us. And it's like that's by
a thousand cuts. You shave off a few years, you

(02:21:29):
shave off a few there, and then you get this
ultimate outcome. And so part of what we've always been
concerned about is we've got to overwhelm the vote. But
what that does is that place an undue burden on
us because listen, I ain't owning this right here, I'm
not owning this.

Speaker 3 (02:21:42):
White women are gonna have to own this right.

Speaker 13 (02:21:44):
White being gonna have to own this Latino of being
and women gonna have to own this. We're not just
gonna own this. It is not our responsibility to say
this democracy solely by ourselves.

Speaker 1 (02:21:55):
My concern is that every single dayntime.

Speaker 13 (02:21:58):
So we have done the work and it's been autiful,
brilliant coalition of people doing the work. But the truth
of the matter is America is structurally stuck into racism
and will not fundamentally deal with that because at the
end of the day, this particular, we're seeing white supremacy
walk around the parade and suth.

Speaker 6 (02:22:16):
That's why I think we have to stop saying, Uh,
we're gonna save the democracy.

Speaker 5 (02:22:20):
They're getting in the democracy they want. They're getting the
democracy they voted for.

Speaker 3 (02:22:24):
Ah.

Speaker 6 (02:22:24):
They So we just honestly, we probably just in the
way because this is what they want, clearly, Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (02:22:29):
It's not about there. It's not just about them.

Speaker 13 (02:22:32):
We're saving the democracy that we want to at least
an element of it, because at the end of the day,
we know harm reduction, so part of us wet black
folks ain't crazy. We actually know that this system is racist.
We know that this system has not worked in favor
of us. We know that as marginalized we're sitting here
seeing a man with thirty four felon is right, think
about it in a state that you couldn't even vote right,

(02:22:55):
having a felon conviction. Now it is that he's living
and they actually were going after folks who are formally
incarcerated folks to get their rights back. But in that
same state, this man has thirty four felonies and he's
running for president. So we're literally looking at the double
standard that has always been here. I don't think that
black folks are food by believing in the system or
protecting some democracy that is the democracy in the in

(02:23:18):
the Constitution. But what we know is that when democracy
is not in place, i e. The opportunity for us
to weigh in on leadership, that it don't work well
for us. When we're not able to put people in
place that actually aligne or at least will protect us,
it don't work well for us. When we don't have
policies in place to make sure that we have resources
for our children, for our families, it doesn't work well
for us. So ultimately, there's a level of democracy that

(02:23:41):
we're we recognize it's not the democracy we desire, we deserve,
but it's.

Speaker 1 (02:23:44):
One at the very least that reduces the harm happens.

Speaker 6 (02:23:47):
Hockamy pathway, the pathway Latasha, let me see what they're called.

Speaker 5 (02:23:54):
What's the pathway two thirty? What's the pathway to victory?

Speaker 3 (02:24:00):
For the Michigan. No, she can still pull this Michigan.
She gotta win all that.

Speaker 13 (02:24:05):
She gotta win Michigan, she gotta win in Pennsylvania, she
gotta win Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (02:24:09):
I think Minnesota is a done.

Speaker 3 (02:24:11):
Minnesota is done.

Speaker 5 (02:24:13):
She couldn't even win the state that her VP from.

Speaker 2 (02:24:16):
And y'all telling me that was no, that's they didn't
call that minutes. I mean, come on, now, come on now,
it's too early to car It's too early.

Speaker 1 (02:24:31):
To ask what was the biggest hurdle.

Speaker 3 (02:24:34):
Let you see, I think misinformation is disinformation.

Speaker 13 (02:24:37):
It's a huge, right, Oh, absolutely, misinformation and disinformation like
the kind of the information that is being seated in
our community. And we can always tell it's interesting. We
were going to some college campuses and in Pennsylvania and
North Carolina, and we started hearing brothers at a particular
age saying the same thing. And when you start seeing patterns,

(02:24:59):
you're asking where you get and it's wrong information because
something different right, And we kept hearing the patterns because
there's information we know this is documented that Russia even
right now that we saw in Georgia there were SEP
nineteen bomb threats that literally went to codes of polls
in Georgia. Right, the FBI put out a statement that

(02:25:21):
that was from a rush. They check trace that back
to Russian. We've got to be clear, I got Russian
packages to my home in twenty twenty two. That there
are other actors that have vested interest in this election
cycle and they're actively targeting Black voters because we are
leverage vote.

Speaker 3 (02:25:36):
But the truth of the matter is we're not the
majority vote.

Speaker 13 (02:25:39):
We are the leverage vote, and so we've got to
keep that we in order to have the kind of
protection that we need. We literally have to have our liveship.
And so the question is they're not gonna put this
on the feet of just black vote. At the end
of the day, I'm asking the question, don't be talking
to me about no black men, what these white women need?

Speaker 6 (02:25:55):
What do you think about things like somebody just posted
an interesting data point. Donald Trump just won Antient County,
North Carolina. The county is forty percent black. Trump becomes
just the second Republican to win this county since the
eighteen seventies.

Speaker 13 (02:26:06):
You know, I've got to look at what the turnout numbers.
That seems like it's probably a turnout issue.

Speaker 1 (02:26:10):
Yeah, so it means.

Speaker 6 (02:26:12):
It may mean and let me see it. Where is
it uh Anston County, North Carolina.

Speaker 13 (02:26:17):
I need to see where it's located because I also
am concerned about turnout part of North Carolina. I was
concerned about turnout because of the storm. Right when you
walked in the storm, and I know you noticed Andrew
like in it uphill for your entire life. People are
not really thinking about elections. It's not at the top
of their piece. So for me, I would look at
it and I would think, I don't think you're not

(02:26:37):
gonna find this big exodus of black voters to the Republicans.
I do think what you'll see is you'll see a
turnout issue.

Speaker 9 (02:26:43):
I want to go back to Arizona really quick and
then go back to Arizona. The reason why I want
to go back to Arizona is because right now he's
beating her by the point one percentage points. In twenty twenty,
Joe Biden only won Arizona by point three percent zero
point three percentage points.

Speaker 13 (02:27:03):
So Arizona is a tough one and the Latino vote,
like it's really the key vote in that area is
the Latino vote. So we're gonna have to see what.

Speaker 9 (02:27:12):
They would have responded positively to the immigration proposals by uh,
the Harris Walls ticket.

Speaker 3 (02:27:19):
They went a lot more conservative, right.

Speaker 13 (02:27:21):
Yeah, that's what I think. I think they went a
lot more conservative. And we're gonna see, We're gonna see
how it. Watch us out. You know what I've been
hearing so far, and I haven't had the chance. That's
why I'm haven't had the chance to really look at
the data. So I want to be I want to
be real and authentic what I'm saying. You know, I'm
not trying like, we gotta deal in truth. We gonna
really take our people to the next level. We gotta
deal with the truth of it. And we've got to

(02:27:42):
deal with what's the element of what is happening in
this country. Because I do believe there's a larger issue.
This ain't about just Trump and Harris. This really is
a reflection of where we are as a country. Like ultimately,
there's some people that are saying we're gonna die on
the sword right based on protecting white interests at all costs. Right,
don't care about the democracy, we don't care about patriotism.

Speaker 1 (02:28:03):
None of that.

Speaker 3 (02:28:04):
At the end of the day, we at all costs.
We're gonna protect white supremacy.

Speaker 13 (02:28:08):
This man has insulted every sing He's broken every rule
that you can break.

Speaker 5 (02:28:13):
He got something greater than the white privilege.

Speaker 1 (02:28:15):
What you got, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:28:17):
I ain't never seen white privilege.

Speaker 3 (02:28:19):
White privilege were called the Civil War. The majority of folks, no, no.

Speaker 5 (02:28:23):
No, with Donald Trump marginalized this the greatest white man.

Speaker 6 (02:28:26):
Donald Trump marginalized this white man that got power, white
men that got buildingies of Chylis. They cowarded him. I've
never seen anything like it. Like, nobody knows how to
deal with Donald Trump. Like we keep saying, he's the
threat of democracy. The dj didn't treat him like a
thread of democracy. The media don't treat him like a
thread of democracy.

Speaker 5 (02:28:42):
And voters, damn sure, I ain't treating him like a
threat of democracy. I've never seen anything.

Speaker 3 (02:28:46):
How many how many white men have had that like.

Speaker 1 (02:28:49):
Like, I've never done.

Speaker 5 (02:28:50):
That's the only one I've ever seen it like this, No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (02:28:51):
No, we're saying that.

Speaker 13 (02:28:53):
But historically in this country, we've protected all kinds of
white men doing all kinds of stuff. Epstein, all of them.
That's that was be like like like we gotta be Kennedy.
We we can go on and on and on in
terms of how America protects white men. In our lifetime,
we've seen a different kind of reality, so we had
a different expectation, but the structural racism that led you.

(02:29:14):
Let me say this, if you protect and support a
whole group of people being in slave like what like?

Speaker 3 (02:29:21):
What else?

Speaker 13 (02:29:22):
We supposed to be shocked at what you do protecting
the Trump. They have protected a whole lot of Trumps.

Speaker 6 (02:29:27):
But I've also seen I've also seen them a lot
of those white men deal with the consequences of their actions.
I ain't seen him having to deal with the consequence
of nothing yet what why he run?

Speaker 9 (02:29:38):
He literally is scheduled to be sentenced a couple of
weeks from now. Let's have y'all, he still would have
to be sworn in.

Speaker 1 (02:29:51):
None of that happening, I think happened and before it was.

Speaker 13 (02:29:56):
Even Yeah, I think it's a danger to make it
seem like he's bigger than because he's not. The truth
of the matter is, white people in this country have
not felt the threat of losing their position in power.

Speaker 1 (02:30:07):
They're not protecting it.

Speaker 13 (02:30:08):
Yeah, they're not just protecting Trump because something Trump superman.
They're protecting what he represents, They're connecting themselves, they're protecting themselves.
And so ultimately, if we don't recognize that, and they've
always done that, I can go historically on all of
the black folks who have been killed and lynched and
hung and nothing happened to them. So we talked about
what he did. I'm talking about folks who actually killed

(02:30:29):
our people and nothing happened to them. That came after
us and nothing happened to them. So that's not something new.
That ain't not new in America. Like, what we're seeing
is a different level of sophistication around it, and we've
not seen someone and and we've not seen a level
of protecting a candidate in our lifetime. But part of
it is because it's not about the candidate. If it's
about what he represents and he represents their position in

(02:30:52):
a way that they're no longer going to be the
majority of this country, that's a different ball game.

Speaker 6 (02:30:56):
Well, I maintained that we knew this election was going
to be tight, and we know black people show up
late for everything.

Speaker 3 (02:31:03):
So hopefully, I hope and Arizona.

Speaker 8 (02:31:08):
These black votes show up late because you know what,
but bears repeating this election's lost or wins should not
fall on the backs of black folks, because what it
would tell me at the end of the day, if
we have to go through these numbers, we're going to
see that we had a lot of disappointment from white
women if it didn't go the way that we think.

(02:31:29):
Everybody's like, we're gonna break this fifty five. We got
break fifty two percent support from white We don't.

Speaker 1 (02:31:37):
Know it for a back.

Speaker 2 (02:31:39):
When I tell you, I'm not talking to these hot
I mean it, I home to them. Whoever voted for Trump. Oh,
these white women voting for Trump, voting against their interests.

Speaker 3 (02:31:51):
Tell you're not gonna tell us what we're gonna do
with our own bodies.

Speaker 7 (02:31:55):
The hell you know.

Speaker 9 (02:31:56):
They literally have voted to uphold and a band or
to vote against, to vote against.

Speaker 3 (02:32:06):
Well, it's in North Carolina, the abortion band.

Speaker 9 (02:32:09):
They voted against it, the ballot initiative, but it's neck
connect with it was neck connect with Kamala.

Speaker 3 (02:32:16):
They voted for Josh Stein, but it's it was neck
connect with Kamala.

Speaker 1 (02:32:20):
I don't get it.

Speaker 13 (02:32:21):
Let me say this white privilege is like some high
end cocaine. We don't know, No, seriously, like we are not.
We are in denial of how white privilege they've never
been in a space in this nation that literally they
have like their protection of every area of society particularly

(02:32:43):
and in terms to the highest offices they've been protected
on that we are we are really underestimated, right, how
fearful they are of just sharing power.

Speaker 1 (02:32:54):
We're not even talking about just sharing power.

Speaker 13 (02:32:56):
So ultimately, what they're saying, what what we're seeing in
this moment is that we don't care about any It
is out and we will give it all. We were
burning all down in order to protect our privilege.

Speaker 6 (02:33:09):
So how the white people, like the Merritgarlands of the world,
didn't you go after pisition?

Speaker 3 (02:33:15):
He should never have been there.

Speaker 1 (02:33:17):
Well, so whose fault is that the person who put
him there, which is Biden.

Speaker 6 (02:33:21):
Yeah, So why are those I thought those supposed to
be the good white folks that's supposed to protect democracy.

Speaker 3 (02:33:25):
Well, here's what they miss calculated.

Speaker 1 (02:33:28):
And uphold democracy.

Speaker 9 (02:33:29):
They miscalculated the fact that this they picked him to
be a safe Supreme Court justice that they would be
able to get past with profess Yes, once Barack Obama
nominated him, and I think that there was some nostalgia
or something where they thought, oh, we're gonna put this
safe person here, is to make them feel like we're

(02:33:50):
reaching out and extending an olive branches. Well, extending an
olive wrench meant that you took put someone as the
head of the Department of Justice in the j Aggar
Hoover building that continued the legacy of j Edgar Hoover.

Speaker 6 (02:34:01):
Another thing I learned because you asked that earlier, Andrew,
about what did we learn over the last year. I
learned that a lot of people don't even know Donald
Trump does things wrong because he doesn't get treated like.

Speaker 1 (02:34:11):
He's doing anything right right.

Speaker 2 (02:34:14):
And I think that's what Tasha's point though, Charlotte, mean,
all the things you said, they were colossal failures. That
was the colossal failure by the media to not treat
him that way. It was a colossal failure by people
to not be on the front lines of misinformation and
disinformation when technology was moving faster than or technology, yeah,
was moving faster than policy. It was a colossal failure

(02:34:34):
of I say, voters for not being more intellectually curious
about what's happening. I don't think that elevates Donald Trump.
I think it just reflects where we are in society,
which is heartbreaking. But I'm still not I still feel optimistic.
We don't know, yah, don't you know? The big dates
that we're waiting for have not yet been called. And

(02:34:55):
Andrew raised something good. I think we were all talking
so we didn't hear it. But when you were talking
about losing Arizona, Andrew said that he lost, and I
put lost in quotes, but lost Florida by three.

Speaker 3 (02:35:05):
Point point three point three point three point three.

Speaker 8 (02:35:09):
So the lectures can come down then close and still
not go your way. Every boat matters, it counts. But Latasha,
you brought home. I think where we started this show
about was really this conversation of white privilege and power
and what it will do, how it acts instinctually to
protect itself.

Speaker 1 (02:35:28):
It's like a knee jerk, like someone hits your knee
and you kick hard. It's been a place for centuries,
y'all muscle memories.

Speaker 8 (02:35:35):
They don't have to rehearse it, practice for it. It's
instinctual that you respond a certain way. When your body
is attacked. Your body does the same thing. It races
to wherever the intrusion is to kill whatever is coming
for you. I act the same way about power it
has about to.

Speaker 1 (02:35:55):
Be taken from you. You do whatever it takes to
keep it.

Speaker 3 (02:35:58):
Look, Latasha, we were on the phone.

Speaker 2 (02:36:02):
We're on the phone chatting, and we were talking about
how it feels different to you, and I would saying,
but this isn't different.

Speaker 3 (02:36:07):
And I was I called Angela or she called one.

Speaker 2 (02:36:10):
Well, somehow we were on the phone with each other
and I was telling her that you were saying it
feels different. I'm like, it just doesn't. This is the
same thing that we've always known. And Angela was like, no,
it feels different to me too. At the time, you
said I need to sit with it right to figure out.
I just wonder if you've sat with it and if
you have anything that you want to share tonight about
why it feels different this time. And I would put
that same question to you Angela, like why does it

(02:36:32):
feel different this time when we really haven't in my opinion,
we really haven't seen anything new.

Speaker 1 (02:36:37):
Oh I do think we've seen something new, and I
do think that is different.

Speaker 13 (02:36:40):
Let me be clear what white behavior does not determine
or does not define everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:36:46):
Else's behavior necessarily.

Speaker 13 (02:36:48):
And I'm saying that that there is, Yes, there is
a core group of folks in this country clearly that
align themselves with racist, misogynists, sexist idea.

Speaker 1 (02:37:00):
That's clear, right.

Speaker 13 (02:37:01):
But what I have seen that has been distinctively different,
and then I'll talk about the energy of what I'm
feeling as well. Distinctively different is even we saw it
different even from the Obama campaign. And the Obama campaign,
it was this charismatic, brilliant brother that everybody kind of
colledesced and surrounded around and were excited that he was
gonna we what we saw different with Kambali's campaign, it's

(02:37:21):
been that people have literally you saw folks really owning
their own identity. That was very different. It wasn't just
centered around her. You saw the cat ladies, the childish
cat ladies, and the and the the white dudes. And
there is a coalition. Let me tell you, whether it's
this election or not, there is there is a coalition

(02:37:41):
of people that are building in this country. Literally that
the majority is us. Now, whether that's reflected in the
in the box is a different thing. But that's why
you got voter suppression. That's why you got misinformation and disinformation.
If you're just fair game, there's the majority of them,
you ain't got to do all that.

Speaker 6 (02:37:57):
So let's be clear, does Latasha that we may not
know what took Electoria might look like, like like the
Republican electoria might look totally different than in the Democrat
electoria might look totally different than what we're used to.
What do you mean, like like you see Republicans now
they bringing in more black people, they're bringing in.

Speaker 13 (02:38:14):
I'm gonna have to see these because let me say this,
I'm not sure if that's the case. No, no, no,
not even tonight. It's not convincing me of that. Let
me say this, because I think that there is anytime
you bring more people into any process, the vote spread
is gonna be greater.

Speaker 3 (02:38:29):
That's just that's just math.

Speaker 1 (02:38:31):
You white folks, women, black folks.

Speaker 13 (02:38:34):
Anytime you're gonna have a diversity of a voter spread,
that's just as more people get involved in the process,
there's a larger spread.

Speaker 1 (02:38:41):
And so I'm not convinced.

Speaker 3 (02:38:43):
The other thing is, and we don't want to talk
about this because we don't really want to talk about.

Speaker 13 (02:38:47):
How capitalism works either. And so in capitalism. We have
turned America too a big old commercial. It's a big
ass commercial that ultimately everything is about marketing. Everything is
about marketing. People are even literally making careers based on
just marketing. Like and so at the end of the day,
what we're seeing is people I can talk to somebody

(02:39:07):
for five minutes and I can tell you if they
read or what network they listen to. It's almost we
have dumbed the dumbing down of this nation where people
are really not even critical thinkers about things that they're
literally attaching to particular kind of positions because it make
them seem cool. I mean, I don't know if y'all
saw the thing, y'all probably even talked about, but walka Flaka.

(02:39:28):
This brother out here, he endorses somebody he ain't never
got you, never voted, and so but I understand because
at the end of the day, who's who is it?

Speaker 1 (02:39:36):
Who is it? Come on?

Speaker 2 (02:39:39):
And I was gonna tell y'all we're having such profound discussion,
But I was gonna tell you that we were literally,
uh sitting here, and while we were sitting here, Virginia Washington.

Speaker 3 (02:39:51):
Took the.

Speaker 9 (02:39:53):
Virginia organ event calls. We've been sitting here, but it
was such a profound discussion.

Speaker 3 (02:39:57):
I did not yet.

Speaker 13 (02:39:59):
Let's say high the pathway halfway.

Speaker 1 (02:40:03):
Okay, there's the bad way the same, that's the same.

Speaker 3 (02:40:10):
Andrew said, damn it.

Speaker 1 (02:40:13):
The same.

Speaker 3 (02:40:14):
I know I'm saying you told them I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 1 (02:40:17):
But we're still on track. We're still okay.

Speaker 5 (02:40:19):
Just making sure.

Speaker 3 (02:40:20):
He's like, I just let me look at this.

Speaker 7 (02:40:21):
Map, take a show.

Speaker 2 (02:40:25):
I'm curious when you hear Lata why it feels different
to her? Does that resonate with you? Is that the
same feeling that.

Speaker 3 (02:40:32):
And what resonates with me is comes to.

Speaker 2 (02:40:37):
Because you know I've found about the sea walking ball
this elect don't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (02:40:42):
I really do.

Speaker 2 (02:40:43):
I'm don't feel like if I cannot lose hope because
you guys don't want to see me there, I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:40:49):
Don't have to.

Speaker 1 (02:40:50):
I am.

Speaker 3 (02:40:50):
I am refusing to succumb that I am.

Speaker 1 (02:40:54):
I'm with you, not no more. Yeah, agnowledged.

Speaker 6 (02:40:59):
Listen whatever God God plan gonna happen. Better, don't ride
I ride.

Speaker 5 (02:41:06):
With the VP.

Speaker 13 (02:41:10):
Music.

Speaker 2 (02:41:11):
Yes, but Latasha, I want you to you got you,
you are connected to the most time. I want you
to close this out with something good because we know
you gotta go find some votes.

Speaker 1 (02:41:20):
You're not gonna find a vote.

Speaker 6 (02:41:23):
Every black Grandma and America got god phone line backed up.

Speaker 1 (02:41:30):
About that.

Speaker 7 (02:41:32):
Before before you go there, I do have one question, right,
you look at everything online, you look at banking online,
we do everything online. Will ever get to a point
where we can vote online?

Speaker 13 (02:41:42):
Right?

Speaker 7 (02:41:42):
Because today when I voted today, right, they didn't even
look at my I d I came up my little
pamphlet that they mailed to me, they scanned it, and
I voted right. So it could have been you, It
could have been somebody else who knows who Sean is.
But will it ever get to a point where we're
gonna be voting online?

Speaker 1 (02:41:56):
It will if we make it be.

Speaker 13 (02:41:57):
So the truth of the matter is, while we voting,
like like standing in line, I can move a million
dollars on my cell phone, why can't vote? There are
people actually that are voting online, that are abroad, and
so we've got to recognize that there.

Speaker 1 (02:42:10):
Are barriers, there are intentional barriers.

Speaker 13 (02:42:12):
So people don't participate in this process because the truth
of the matter is all of America's not participating in
the process. What I do know for sure is that
there are more Americans in my that I believe that
I run into that really believe we like, we believe
like ultimately that is the truth. And so part of
what we gotta do is we've got to organize. We've
got to get people to really be even the media,

(02:42:32):
the way that the media has given him a passion
that they have created a false equivalency. It's like the
way that they've had a double standard for her versus them,
Like all of that has fed into that they are
to be held accountabilists too. So at the end, we've
got to do the work if we want the kind
of America that we desire, or we want the Conde nation.
I always ask people wherever I go, I usually ask

(02:42:54):
people to close your eyes, and I'll just and I'll
ask them what your eyes closed? What would this nation
look like? What would America look like without racism? And
most of the time, no matter where I go, ninety
nine to one hundred percent of ninety nine percent of
the people in the room, I don't care. If I'm
at a big college, I don't care if I got
ten thousand the orders. I don't care if I got

(02:43:14):
five hundred the majority of us have never asked ourself
this question.

Speaker 1 (02:43:18):
Let me take racism, ain't my damn inheritance. That is
not my I was not given that.

Speaker 13 (02:43:23):
That's not who That's not what I'm gonna take on
like that's what I'm supposed to do for the rest
of my life.

Speaker 1 (02:43:27):
That.

Speaker 13 (02:43:27):
Oh, but but we if we're not asking that question
and we're not imagining and thinking about what is gonna
exist beyond that?

Speaker 3 (02:43:35):
Right, because that was a sister.

Speaker 13 (02:43:37):
All we getting all biped out of shape because of
the map and all this other stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:43:41):
Right, there was a sister.

Speaker 13 (02:43:42):
Named Harriet Tupman that came to the South nineteen times
with a fifty thousand dollars bounty on her head. She
believed when nobody else around her believe I wanted them,
I'm gonna believe until they call it.

Speaker 1 (02:43:53):
Oh wit, I'm gonna believe it we and not just
call it even.

Speaker 13 (02:43:58):
When they call it. We've got a rectized We've got
more work to do that. Ultimately, we've got more work
to do that. Racism has shown itself.

Speaker 1 (02:44:07):
It is alive and well in this station.

Speaker 13 (02:44:10):
Trump is a prime example of why we do need
the He's a prime example of why we need affirmtive action.
He is the evidence of why we need those things,
and so instead of backing away from them, we should
even push harder on them.

Speaker 9 (02:44:22):
So that's where we are in this moment, and right
now you all, just so that we can capture this moment.
Right now, forty nine Senate seats have been called for Republicans,
forty one for Democrats, one hundred and forty two Democratic
seats have been called in one hundred and seventy three
for Republican. Whoever is the quickest to two eighteen, or
ever he gets to two eighteen has the majority in

(02:44:43):
the House, and whoever gets to fifty, of course in
the Senate, depending on who is elected president. Of course,
if there's a if it's a type, it's fifty to fifty.
The type the type, rerekon vote. We'll go to the president.
Frontin was the vice president of the United States of you.

Speaker 3 (02:45:00):
I love the audience, You.

Speaker 1 (02:45:04):
Keep the faith. Listen them sisters out there, the brothers
out there.

Speaker 7 (02:45:07):
Come on.

Speaker 3 (02:45:08):
Let's take it to the flow. Go to the closet.

Speaker 1 (02:45:10):
Go to the closet. Y'all will put this through.

Speaker 3 (02:45:13):
I'm going to get the guns. None of us were blamed.

Speaker 2 (02:45:21):
We knock codone violence on this self.

Speaker 9 (02:45:25):
Defense said we're going to the prayer closet. Brother, what
else I don't know, But what we do know is
the city are nip and tuck. As my dad would say,
there's something happening.

Speaker 1 (02:45:42):
It looks like I said that happen.

Speaker 3 (02:45:45):
Tasha. I I just you are love my Maya Angelou.

Speaker 2 (02:45:50):
I mean, you are just one of the most profound people,
and I'm so blessed to know you, and I love
every time you come on here and other people get
to experience you because she's an ex periods like I
can't I try to say what you said, but the
way that you say it is just so compelling, and
I love that all these people feel your energy, Like
I feel more joyful having heard what you have to say.

(02:46:11):
And I really think it's a fine covering. That's what
you're on this earth to do. So thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:46:18):
Yeah, you don't give it. I can't leave yet. What
we gotta do. I just tribute as.

Speaker 8 (02:46:25):
Well to you and why our community needs more like
you in the exist in families and college campuses and
the neighborhoods everywhere, and certainly in bands. The people who
keep the tempo like that. You know, you got the
beat going in. But but everybody, regardless of what instrument
comes in, what comes out. You're one of the people
that keeps us left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot.

Speaker 1 (02:46:49):
And I think we need that so bad. We do
as a community.

Speaker 13 (02:46:53):
We do.

Speaker 8 (02:46:54):
It doesn't exist in the culture personality, it's our spirit.

Speaker 1 (02:46:58):
Spirit enters us at different times. And you know, I'm
just glad that rested.

Speaker 3 (02:47:03):
While we gotta believe y'all, Yeah, we were built for this.

Speaker 1 (02:47:06):
We do hard things. Yeah, hard things, so.

Speaker 13 (02:47:09):
I you know, and you can't control what other people do.
All we gotta do is make ourselves be a light
and do our part.

Speaker 3 (02:47:14):
So you know, we in these streets in.

Speaker 5 (02:47:18):
Democrats are now favored to flip control of the House.

Speaker 2 (02:47:21):
Yeah, you know what I always thought we were gonna
the Democrats are gonna get the health Yeah, there are
too many races are not called yet.

Speaker 9 (02:47:27):
But I am also gonna shout out my state again
because Washington State has a blue governor and Bob Ferguson
and Dave Riker left he's he was saying he was
gonna flip in the support abortion. He was in Congress
as you all know before he did not win, So
that's the little victory.

Speaker 2 (02:47:47):
And then Minnesota is too close to call, which I
really am like that is from Yeah, it's too close.

Speaker 13 (02:47:53):
I'm gonna eat him now. Listen, I'm gonna need him
to deliver Minnesota. I'm gonna beat him to at least
deliver Maisota. We're coach you better. I need you come through.
But I think he's it.

Speaker 1 (02:48:04):
Will it will? I know? But I think I actually
believe that.

Speaker 3 (02:48:07):
I believe that. I just you don't believe that.

Speaker 5 (02:48:12):
I never believed that.

Speaker 3 (02:48:13):
We're gonna win. Really really, you know, I didn't. I
told you, she said joshually I like him as if
you don't.

Speaker 5 (02:48:22):
Him.

Speaker 1 (02:48:22):
The good news is it won't matter.

Speaker 3 (02:48:32):
Welcome to.

Speaker 2 (02:48:36):
Will you guys? Andrew is so fiery. And Andrew is
an asshole and everything all the time. So we talk
about brother.

Speaker 1 (02:48:48):
I love no, no, no, but I I love it too.

Speaker 7 (02:48:52):
But I want to hear this.

Speaker 5 (02:48:54):
I want to hear this.

Speaker 3 (02:48:55):
Why what? What's what's this thing about?

Speaker 10 (02:48:57):
What?

Speaker 8 (02:48:57):
What?

Speaker 5 (02:48:58):
Why?

Speaker 1 (02:48:58):
Preferred Josh Wall.

Speaker 2 (02:49:01):
Now.

Speaker 6 (02:49:01):
I feel like he had a lot of energy when
he started, but it just it just wasn't sustainable. I
never really bought into the whole weird phrasing, like I thought.
But I knew it was gonna turn people off because
you can't label people.

Speaker 3 (02:49:13):
Weird like that's they shouldn't be weird, but it is weird.

Speaker 1 (02:49:17):
Didn't weird, but he did.

Speaker 9 (02:49:19):
But here's the thing. It wouldn't right. It would have
stuck if they would have stuck his ass back on
cable news when we saw him. They should have kept
him there right in that.

Speaker 6 (02:49:29):
And there's a thing about and I just think there's
a thing about watching old white men.

Speaker 3 (02:49:35):
I think I actually think he was good and Donald
Trump was old.

Speaker 5 (02:49:39):
He got he got bodied by JD. Vans in the debate,
which he was.

Speaker 3 (02:49:42):
He was nervous. I don't he got bott debate, but
I wouldn't say he got. He started off nervous.

Speaker 5 (02:49:47):
And the reason and the reason he got bodies.

Speaker 6 (02:49:50):
The reason he got bodies because yat Fans literally was
out there every Sunday morning on those cables taking those hards,
getting beat up.

Speaker 3 (02:49:57):
But they put him, They've tried to block him. I
thought he was a good candidate, I really did. I'm not.
It's not over yet, but I do.

Speaker 1 (02:50:04):
Think Minnesota let her damn Sorry, but we were nervous
about and he wasn't for me.

Speaker 5 (02:50:12):
He wasn't for us.

Speaker 3 (02:50:13):
He was like him and his.

Speaker 1 (02:50:16):
I just yeah, I don't know. It was it was
for white comfort, yes, no, no, no, no, no, he
was he literally he did.

Speaker 5 (02:50:27):
You Let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (02:50:29):
They could look up, however, and see a white man.

Speaker 9 (02:50:31):
Can I just all the time we have Lauren who
is I think at the other camera on the riser?
Are we calling her up now? Y'all told me five minutes?

Speaker 3 (02:50:41):
Okay, it looks she looked down, so I think that's okay.
There's only five minutes left in the show. Are we
calling Lauren in? Or we're not start calling her in?

Speaker 2 (02:50:48):
You know, she's been holding up that sign Lauren five
minutes and lo Low's name is Lauren.

Speaker 9 (02:50:53):
So I'm trying to figure out why she tells me
she's coming on. Come on, we need to know what's happening,
so somebody can tell you.

Speaker 5 (02:50:58):
I can tell you what's happened in that crowd clearing up,
that crowd trying to beat traffic.

Speaker 3 (02:51:01):
They're not clear when not everybody people like y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:51:10):
All in people, Yeah, that crowded in.

Speaker 4 (02:51:13):
My hairline got no haired directions, tell us what we're doing.

Speaker 7 (02:51:24):
We are, We'll go to Lauren.

Speaker 5 (02:51:27):
You said, I still believe, believe, I still I believe.

Speaker 1 (02:51:32):
I believe We're off.

Speaker 3 (02:51:36):
Now that's what she was like, Lauren. Five minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:51:38):
I'm like, yes, Lauren, I see you.

Speaker 3 (02:51:39):
Now listen it says eleven fifty five.

Speaker 5 (02:51:41):
I believe y'all Still what would make you be like?
All right, now, we got to start dealing with reality.

Speaker 1 (02:51:47):
What we do not in reality now yet?

Speaker 3 (02:51:50):
No, no, no, we deal with reality now.

Speaker 7 (02:51:51):
But with what you said about Pennsylvania.

Speaker 8 (02:51:55):
Okay, okay, Pennsylvania, we gotta win it. There's no doubt
about it. We get Witness without Michigan, and Pennsylvania has
to be in. Michigan has to be.

Speaker 1 (02:52:05):
In the column. We we walk away with those three.
I'm good tonight with.

Speaker 5 (02:52:09):
Shapiro on the ticket delivered Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (02:52:12):
I don't know about that because he comes with other Wait.

Speaker 13 (02:52:14):
A minute, If he don't deliver it and he won
on the ticket, that says something about him too.

Speaker 1 (02:52:18):
Yeah, he's the governor. So let me be real clear.

Speaker 3 (02:52:21):
He gotta come through that. I think that's fair. I
think that's fair.

Speaker 1 (02:52:24):
So you all Democrats, Yeah, yes, absolutely, in the blue wall.

Speaker 3 (02:52:35):
Absolutely if you were a governor of that state delivered.

Speaker 1 (02:52:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:52:38):
Absolutely, But I also thinks don't matter. We are not
walking in the ballot box and saying, well that really
is the only time I've ever seen the marrital was
Sarah Sarah Palin.

Speaker 9 (02:52:50):
No, it mattered for me with Joe Biden and Kamalio here. Okay,
I wouldn't have voted for Trump. You would not have, right,
but it still matters.

Speaker 8 (02:52:59):
It wouldn't would not have changed your vote based off
who the vice president is.

Speaker 1 (02:53:03):
And my point is this, no one does. I don't
want to say I.

Speaker 3 (02:53:06):
Want to correct.

Speaker 2 (02:53:07):
There is some disinformation floating with people are disgusting that
d J Envy is high a f because he is
bopping his head to music that isn't playing.

Speaker 3 (02:53:17):
And I want you to know, y'all stand there.

Speaker 1 (02:53:22):
The bathroom. I was, yes, but they can't hear.

Speaker 5 (02:53:27):
And things can be healthy.

Speaker 3 (02:53:32):
That fair comes real quick before we leave.

Speaker 1 (02:53:36):
He's come here.

Speaker 3 (02:53:37):
But then at least that way we have it other hands.
But this is love, y'all. Yeah, but how far?

Speaker 5 (02:53:50):
Because okay, but we made I was just I was
the vice president is about to come out.

Speaker 3 (02:53:56):
There before that happens. We're like mayor read on, I
don't know.

Speaker 9 (02:54:01):
The president of the African American Marriage Association just here
really quick to say hi to us before we go
to Lauren.

Speaker 3 (02:54:07):
Uh, I'm not I don't think we're gonna get the Lauren.

Speaker 7 (02:54:12):
Ye sorry, Lauren, We're just that high I said over there.

Speaker 3 (02:54:16):
Yeah, well, I think she wanted.

Speaker 1 (02:54:18):
To to Oh your pull your mic up.

Speaker 5 (02:54:23):
Always good to be with y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:54:24):
It's good to have you. How you feeling.

Speaker 5 (02:54:27):
I feel good. I feel good. I speaked it a
lone night. That's what we got.

Speaker 3 (02:54:30):
Alabama didn't come through for just told us it was
on all of us. What happened to Alabamabama before we got.

Speaker 5 (02:54:39):
Up This.

Speaker 2 (02:54:42):
Want that way for about the last century to honestly,
what would it take because everybody always says, I say
this all the time. Everybody always says the South is red,
and I always counter the South is red until it ain't.
And we have seen Georgia's turn into a purple state.
What would it take in Alabama?

Speaker 12 (02:54:57):
You have to have more people move into the state,
both black, white, and brown coming from the state.

Speaker 5 (02:55:02):
That kind of change the narrative.

Speaker 2 (02:55:04):
Migration pioneering again Yeah, you have to have that that
comes from job growth, that comes from people relocating.

Speaker 1 (02:55:10):
That helps.

Speaker 12 (02:55:11):
Yeah, you had, and now you can't have Florida, you know,
I mean Florida has gone now rent in a way
we wouldn't have expected, in a different kind of way.

Speaker 5 (02:55:18):
So you don't want that. And now we look at
Ohio places that well, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:55:21):
The capital of white supremacy increasingly, so.

Speaker 8 (02:55:25):
Our migration has been of folks leaving Ohio who may
have been law enforcement officers. To go back to one
of y'all shows that y'all did with Byron where he said,
we see all the law enforcement coming to Florida because
they see an embracing No, they saw immunity from prosecution
for anything that they do in the pursuit of their job,
and now they're protected.

Speaker 9 (02:55:43):
So really quick where our show is actually technically off air,
going off air, but we started a few minutes late,
and we have breakfast club host Laura l Rossa who
is ready to go live from the riser. So we're
going to hurt now, all right, we're cutting a Lauren,
can we hear her? We should be able to hear her, Lauren,

(02:56:06):
where you're at?

Speaker 3 (02:56:07):
Lauren? Can you hear us, Lauren, there, I can hear them,
Bay feeling over there? Lauren. Wait, can you guys hear me?

Speaker 2 (02:56:15):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:56:16):
Yeah, yeah, you can hear Okay feeling over there. Let
me tell you. Okay, So, first of all, I heard
Charloamagne say that the crowd.

Speaker 2 (02:56:22):
Was clearing out that it's not true exactly literally stuck
like blue. The way that we were up there where
we were like kind of sitting on the edge of
our seats, like, oh my god, was about that? Was
about that? But that's what's happening down here. When you
hear them yell, it's any wind in blue, especially Kamma.
Of course when they get quiet, it's not good news.
But no one's going anywhere. I think one thing that

(02:56:44):
is work pointing out to is even when they bring
seeing Inn on the screen, everyone's watching the smaller lower
screens in any small wins, like when she won Washington
that wasn't on the big screen.

Speaker 3 (02:56:53):
It was on a lower third, and people started yelling.
I'm like, why is that very so excited?

Speaker 1 (02:56:57):
Lower third?

Speaker 2 (02:56:58):
They're literally glued to their I would say their seats,
but they're standing up. And I think that Kamlin.

Speaker 3 (02:57:03):
Maybe like I'm starting to see people near her stage,
don't oh yeah coming up soon. That's right, she's coming.
It's really close down here, y'all. It's the same way
that we were up there, but it's like a group
thing down here.

Speaker 1 (02:57:17):
Yeah, we love it.

Speaker 9 (02:57:18):
Well, thank you Lauren for being there for us, and y'all,
I thank you. I think you know that we are
officially done with our coverage and oh yeah that's true. O.

Speaker 5 (02:57:30):
Thank you guys so much.

Speaker 7 (02:57:31):
We'll be we gotta do the breakfast club in the morning,
so we gotta we leave in here taking a nap
and then we're going straight to the station to finish
this off. So from DCO. So, thank you guys for
having me so much. We've been up since four.

Speaker 1 (02:57:45):
Eight that all.

Speaker 7 (02:57:47):
Thanks for the really appreciated Angelabie called me. I wasn't
gonna come out like I broadcast the city and she
said you better.

Speaker 1 (02:57:53):
Bring your ass and getting down. She's like, what you
need tell the truth?

Speaker 9 (02:57:57):
The truth is he actually talked to their team last
week and said that this is something that they absolutely
shouldn't shouldn't miss.

Speaker 5 (02:58:03):
So thank you.

Speaker 9 (02:58:04):
Sorry for the way that you guys have engaged in
political discourse. Opening up this space for so many folks
who respond to black and brown folks, and it's just
a joy.

Speaker 7 (02:58:13):
So thank y'all, thank you so much. This was like
a homecoming a big It was great to see. Music
was great and just talking politics was was wonderful. Like
I said, we've been up since four o'clock, so I
am no drinks there, so we just had some water.
So I'm about to go to sleep taking that. But
thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 2 (02:58:34):
Wait here's Leonard Leonardoy you left when we were.

Speaker 5 (02:58:41):
Parting. Words of God is the best author and finisher.

Speaker 6 (02:58:43):
All right, So your niggas don't lose, lose, all right, people, Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:58:51):
That's the new reprojects. Keep regends.

Speaker 8 (02:58:55):
Oh say goodbye to the people. Before we signed off,
like carriagement, Let's.

Speaker 12 (02:59:00):
I'll just say this, thanks for all the work y'all
have been doing this entire season. Appreciate what you guys doing.
The Breakfast club, big fan there for everybody. It's gonna
be a long night.

Speaker 1 (02:59:08):
It's gonna be the next couple of days to day.
It's not over.

Speaker 5 (02:59:11):
That that's my closing. Tomorrow Mayor is not over.

Speaker 1 (02:59:14):
It's not over.

Speaker 2 (02:59:15):
Don't know you did not say Native Lampid. You said,
just said the Breakfast Club. It's Breakfast cub and Native Lampid.
We will run to take back.

Speaker 1 (02:59:25):
Y'all want to take back on me? Yeah, okay, but
not tonight.

Speaker 8 (02:59:29):
We're getting ready to receive I think, uh yet, possibly
our president.

Speaker 1 (02:59:33):
I'm gonna stay all right, Katie.

Speaker 3 (02:59:35):
Well, there are zero days until election day here.

Speaker 9 (02:59:38):
Yeah, actually technically today after election day on the East coast,
but on the West coast, some uh states are still
being uh called. We're mostly waiting on the battle. So
y'all stay tuned and I will be welcome home.

Speaker 1 (02:59:51):
Y'all come home. Thanks for.

Speaker 3 (02:59:55):
Shout out to our whole production team.

Speaker 1 (02:59:56):
Shout us.

Speaker 3 (02:59:59):
La oh this season.

Speaker 5 (03:00:01):
Yeah, shout out there one time.

Speaker 2 (03:00:04):
Harter feeling safe, everybody good, buys so much Lolo, all
the girls from PDP IM bless yes, God, bless you
your family be out.

Speaker 1 (03:00:15):
M hmm.