May 16, 2025 • 19 mins
Today on the show Loren breaks down the fourth day of the trial where Cassie begins to get cross examined from Diddy's team, and baby how interesting the tables have turned! Cassie admits to being being addicted and possibly iniating some of the freak offs, check it out!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody. You know, if you don't lie about that, right,
Lauren came. Hey, y'all, it's Laura le Rosa and this
is the Latest with Laurence l Rosa. This is your
daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and
the conversations that really shake the room. I'm your host,
(00:23):
Laura la Rosa and my Low Riders. Welcome on back,
Welcome on back. How am I feeling? How are you feeling? Hello?
Taylor is with me and it is right day. How
you feeling today, Taylor.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm good and I'm grateful. I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You said you got emotional earlier today. You don't get it.
I be like, yo, Taylor, it's like it's like you your baby,
but like you don't be like doing like regular pregnant
people stuff, like you don't be hormonal, you be like
you still. You don't even look pregnant.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Thank you, thank you for saying you just have a
belly and a baby. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I know. Maybe because you're from Philly you don't get emotional.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I think because I'm a tarist, but I was just
like emotional more so just grateful of like where I
was and where I am now and everything. Just happy
for the people that's in my circle and all that.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
You also have a really amazing support system, like your
family and your boyfriend is amazing so to be husband.
I love him for you. I just love the evolution
of like since I met you, like to where you
are now just in your personal life, you know what
I mean. It's like a I feel full for you
and then feel complete and happy for you. So I
can't imagine how you feel. Yeah, so heavy birthday girl.
(01:37):
Make sure y'all go tell Taylor Tailor made it. She
makes all the amazing intros for the Breakfast Club and
she produces this podcast. Make sure you telling my girl
happy birthday. But I feel good as well. I actually,
you know, after completing this week of the Diddy Trial,
I'm like, yo.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I say, I know you're tired.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
My body is like all of this, like because my
days are so much longer now, you know what I mean.
But I do think that this week has really taught
me a lot about like just being able to not
follow the wave, like Charlotte may always be like, don't
follow the wave, create the wave, and like you know,
I think with the case accidentally, that's what I begin
(02:16):
to do by just picking up my phone and telling
y'all what I saw, what I heard, and how I
honestly feel. Even if people are gonna be like, you're
not a lawyer, you're not an handalyst, you're not this,
you're not that, but it's created a like people have
really been appreciating it. Like there's been so many people
who've DM me like that are like, yo, we appreciate
you just being honest, even if it's like you're on
puff side one day, you not on his side, the
(02:37):
next day you on Cassie side, Like they're not picking side.
They just appreciate the clean reporting, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
A lot of like the allys I usually go to
weren't really or they're putting certain statements up like my
ass lying later you can stick to what so much
like even in me trying to figure out like how
to bring all the information to social media and then
the breakfast club and they hear on the podcas like
there's so much information.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's like where do you put what? So normally they
just lean into like what the big stuff is but
to me, I think everything be big. I'll be in there.
Yesterday I was in there like I was watching a novella.
I was like, oh, oh my god. At the court, girl,
they don't even let you. Don't want you eat and
that you're not supposed to eat. You give it your
gum in there. Yeah, it's it's like a thing, especially
if you're in the main courtroom. But yes, so I'm feeling,
(03:24):
you know, a little tired, But I'm also in a
space of gratitude. I've been like that for some time
now though, Like I'm in a really good place. So
I'm feeling I'm reciprocating your energy, Tailor. I appreciate all
the good, good vibes you've been sitting in my way.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yes, well, let's take it to the courts, because I
need to know, yes, cause you know your.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Girl love to take you out of court. Lot to
take y'aut a court, so man. Yesterday was Cassie's first
day of cross examination, which is where a Diddy's defense
team gets to ask her some questions about things she
said on the sand and things that she might not
have said yet that they feel like the people we
should know, the people of the jury should know. I
(04:03):
feel like she was up there looking crazy, like, you know,
I still I empathize for her, you know, and all
of the abuse that she had to endure. And you know,
I was really sitting there yesterday, like ma'am, or the
day before yesterday, when she talked through all of the abuse,
like the physical and mental abuse and things of that nature,
and they were showing us photos of her her bruises
(04:23):
and her basically like her battle wounds from this man,
and I'm like, she did all of that and it
would put on makeup right after literally right after sometimes
and go stand next to him and smile and like
everything was okay. She held it so much in for
so long I cannot imagine being her, Like I can't
imagine being her at all. So to see her on
the stand now and then I feel like the prosecution
(04:45):
didn't protect her in the way that they should have yesterday,
and it was like insane to me, Like I'm just
gonna really quickly go down the list of the things
that they debunked. Tell her. You can ask me questions
you had, but I really wanted to talk about today,
just you know how her personal sex life, not even
with the escorts, but like you know, her dating Michael B. Jordan.
You know a lot of things she did Michael Jordan,
(05:07):
she did they Michael be Jordan, But like a lot
of these things yesterday when we were talking to her
attorney after court, make sure y'all visit my instagram Laurna Rosea,
my YouTube channel Lawrena rose A TV where that interview is.
He her lawyer admitted it's hard for him to hear
a lot of this stuff, and I'm like, I can't
imagine what some conversations is gonna be like after this
court case is over, because yeah, because that's I always
(05:27):
went on.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I wonder if she told him everything because.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I feel like, maybe not this in depth because wow,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It so bad, But like, why would you like because
how she's putting it out there seems like, you know,
she's a victim, and I'm not saying she's not, but
I'm just saying he only knows one side, so now
them reading the other.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Other side of her. That's what I was thinking about, Like,
you know what, I wonder how she positioned it to
him because they're so yesterday on the stand, there are
a lot of different things that they you know, I
want to say call her up on, but I think
it was MRCAO. They showed the other side of it,
and it did make her look and it made her
testimony the day prior it looked a bit crazy. So
(06:13):
the biggest thing was there were so many text messages
that came out. So it was one from two thousand
and nine where she had text puffin and they were
having conversations about the free calls, and she said, I'm
always down to free call. She talked about how aggressive
she wanted the you know, their sexual encounter to be
when they linked up. There were text messages because there
were text messages from the March fifth, twenty sixteen incident,
(06:34):
which was where she we saw her be beat on
video in the Enter Continental Hotel in la and when
the prosecutors gave us some background context via her interview
with them, they use text messages specifically from March fifth,
like just that day and a few of them. Diddy's
team came in on her cross examination yesterday and took
it all the way back to the third right, March third.
(06:56):
When I tell y'all, it painted such a different picture
of you know, I'm not saying that the beating was okay,
they haven't even gotten into that yet as on her
cross examination, But it painted a different picture as to
just the lead up, right, because we were under the impression,
according to her testimony, that the lead up looked like
her just doing this freak off because she had alleged
(07:17):
that she had a big movie premiere coming up and
she didn't want to have it ruined, so she just pleased.
She wanted to please Diddy that weekend so that everything
would be good on Monday. The way that the text
messages were in full when you backed it up to
the third But again, we only see in a couple
of days, right, so there could be where that cut
came out she initiated the freak offf situation. Puff allowed.
(07:37):
He was telling her, since you want to do this,
since it's your freak off, you pick it, you tell
tell me who you want, how you wanted to go.
We should chield up because you got your big movie
premiere Monday. Let's not get too high. Let's let's go
to bed early so we can rest. I didn't, y'all.
I was like, what is happening? This is so different
and why would the prosecution even allow that to go down.
But I'm like, you know, maybe they maybe they got
(07:59):
to come back to that, because that literally is only
one day in a few conversations out of a ten
eleven year relationship, and we know that there was abuse.
We know that he did. Now we know that he
did threaten to expose videos and things of that nature,
because they showed that in text as well. But it
came out on the stand that because they were trying to,
you know, color in the narrative that Cassie was very
(08:21):
jealous of Puff and you know other women he was
dealing with, including kim Porter, the late Kimporter, who was
the mother of the twin girls that he has in
Christian Combs, and the woman Gina, who was a woman
that he was dealing with toward the end of his
in Cassie's relationship, and she says that Gina was one
of the biggest problems. That's why their relationship ended, right,
So they're trying to pin her out to be jealous
and low key without saying it. They were trying to
(08:43):
make out to be this like whoror who was like
a liar and all these things, and I'm like, oh
my god, not after we just spent a day talking
about how she was being dragged up and down hotel
rooms and knots on her head or whatever. But again,
it's court, so you gotta you want to go in
for your side of it. So I'm just sitting there
watching and they bring up she was filming a movie
(09:04):
in South Africa, and they mentioned an actor that she
was dealing with on that movie set, and I knew
that it was not gonna be Jordan because I've been
told this, and I told the guys on the show
this not on the shows. It was behind the scenes
of the show about a week ago, and we were
having a conversation about whether we should have reported it
or not at that time, because the world didn't know
at that time, and we made the decision not to
(09:24):
report it because I just didn't understand why bringing a
woman's past sexual history to try and soften her the
victimization that she did experience, right. But I think.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Then they also say that, you know, did he introduce
her to oral sex?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I think that's the foss yo. They did say that,
and they brought up Ryan Leslie, who was also an
older man, and they were doing that to paint the
picture of like no, you had a type the people
that could help you with your career older, you knew
what you were doing. That's what they were. They didn't
say that, but everything about how they set that up
said that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
But I'm just saying she was sexual being. I don't
feel like did he introduced.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Her to I mean, maybe the other stuff, maybe even
like the freaks whatever they did, but I don't think.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And That's been his whole argument the whole time. That's
been Diddy's argument the whole time of like, you know,
I am, I have a different sexual lifestyle and sexual choice,
and I'm basically a swinger, and we were really high
and really drunk under the influence. I don't even know
some of the stuff I was doing. That has been
one of his defenses. But what they're trying to what
Diddy's team is trying to distance him from, is is
that he coerced or he forced, you know, like a
(10:41):
Cassie and all these other people to be a part
of these freak go off situations. And I feel like
yesterday did a really good job for Diddy's team did
a really good job yesterday of backing him away from
this like man who was forcing and coercing people to
do these things.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It really, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He's going to come off very violent when we spend
a whole day talking about how he beat this woman up.
I didn't know you had heard rumors. And I used
to work for a woman who she worked for Puff
for a long time. She was like one of the
Puff's first employees. She then created a company in the
wine and spirits area that helped him do marketing and
branding around the Rocks. So I worked for her for
(11:21):
a while, so I got to be around and see
things and experience things. And you had heard a lot
about their being alleged abuse physical abuse with Cassie. But
I promise y'all what we saw in court the day
before her cross examination, I didn't know it was that bad.
Like it was so messed. I wanted to cry for her,
and I'm just seeing and hearing about it. Right, So
(11:42):
we go through that full day and then she comes
back on standing. Now they're making her out to be
this like, Okay, we know that that happened, we've already apologized,
we've already taken accountability. But let's get into you, miss girl.
That's what it was given. And I'm like, man, her
husband is in the courtroom up until a certain point
once they started talking about twenty eighteen and on, he's
not there anymore because he also might have to testify.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So it's their reactions.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So I wasn't in the actual court room yesterday. I
was in the overflow room, which is where you could
just watch it on television, so I can still see them.
From what I could see of Puff, his body language
and his demeanor way different yesterday. But it was very
obvious that his team was doing a good job yesterday.
The day before that, at one point I saw him
poor water and his hand was shaking like bad. Way
(12:26):
more relaxed yesterday, like you could tell that his team
felt like they did what they needed to do yesterday.
His team is asking for more time with Cassie because
her last situation, her last cross examination, is supposed to
be completed by today, and it's you know, because she's
pregnant and at this point she could go any day,
you know what I mean. The judge is trying to
(12:46):
make sure that they don't put too much on her
and they get her in and out. But Diddy's team
yesterday made it a point to say and they said
it about three times in court. Cassie is the most
important witness and her cross examination is the most important
thing for his case. So they're like, if you need
more time, judge, you got to allow it. And the
judge agreed. He said, look, if it's substantial and it
makes sense, I'll give you more time. But if not.
You knew for a long time now that today, Friday
(13:09):
the sixteenth, was going to be her last day where
she could be questioned by you guys. You should have
been you know what I mean, you should have guided
your your questioning better. So we'll see what happens. But man,
her and her husband gonna have some conversations after this,
because I mean, she she was doing it with her guy.
Though there were some things that came out in court.
I was like, ooh, I wonder if they talked about that,
(13:30):
Like what else just freaky stuff like there were there
we was so for instance, like you know, the way
that a lot of the freak outs were positioned in
the beginning was like she didn't want to do them,
She did not enjoy them. They were making her physically sick.
She had sores in her mouth, she was getting UTIs
all the time that she couldn't heal because she was
having sex so much, like there was just no regard
for her being at all, and she had no choice
(13:52):
because of how battered, bruised and be in and and drugged.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Up she was.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
She even threw, you know, she admitted that she willingly
took drugs. But at the same time, they kind of
made it seem like almost like a Bobby and Whitney situation,
that like it was because of her relationship with Puff
that she started doing it, and she only did it
with him, right, Even they even burst that bubble yesterday
and talked about how, you know, Diddy did od at
one point, which we did not know, but she was
(14:18):
worse off on drugs than him at some points, and
she talked about how Cassie talked about how Puff had
to call some local drug dealers and tell them you'll
stop serving her. She's doing too much. I'm trying to
get her back, right, But there was a lot of
different sexually explicit things that they couldn't even read in
the courtroom because it was just the different text messages
that they would explain. And she had sent the text,
(14:40):
you know, saying I'm always down a free call. She
had sent text messages talking about how she wanted to
be fucked.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
What was that early when versus like I'm trying to
understand the timeline, It was different.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It was different because like one text like that I'm
always down a freak off was two thousand and nine.
The conversation leading up to the Intercontinental Hotel moment was
twenty sixteen. There were even moments, you know after that,
like like following that beating, the beating conversation where you
know they had exchanged some you know what I'm saying.
And remember she alleged on the stand the day before
(15:13):
her cross examination that her and Puff had went to
dinner and then you know, she alleged that he raped
her in her apartment, but then she went back to
see him the following week, Right, So, I think that
there's going to be more that the defense brings out
as far as like, because they were also painting the
timeline of like so you would go do a freak
off with Puff and then leave that same day after
the freakoff and then go to kit Cutty and then
(15:33):
and then you being Connecticut with Kit Cutty, break it
off with kit Cutty, and then you go right back
with Puff, or you would be like they were trying
to do that whole thing. Like, so, I know that
they're going to lean into more of her sexual activities
because what they're trying to prove is this was consensual.
She wasn't forced, she was into it. Sometimes she was
a choreograph for herself. That's what they're going to lean into.
(15:55):
And I just, man, when her attorney said, and we
have the clip, we can insert the clip, imagine your
man having a find out because some of the stuff too,
she might not have remembered. They were so high. Yeah,
they were so high. She had to understand yesterday some
stuff from twenty seventeen. She said that whole time period
is so like they just were moving and grooving and
getting high at that point, which I will say corroborated
(16:18):
the defense that did he tried to set for himself
of like, yo, I was so high. Some of the
stuff she didn't even count. And she said in twenty seventeen,
a lot of that stuff from that whole year, she
can't even remember certain things. They were so high.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
So yeah, yeah, So do you think that she can
be charged too. I can't guess earlier be good charge.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I mean, I don't know that. I don't know that
she can or she can't indefinitely to be able to say,
I will say. I've been asking that question to, you know,
some people who would know, and I was told that
there may have been a conversation with her about immunity
from what the prosecutors, which would mean she can't be charged.
But I don't know that one hundred percent. Yeah, I
am trying to figure that out. Though. I am trying
(16:59):
to figure that out. It's like, ain't none in the
world happening, But Diddy, I don't know if just because
I'm in court, do you feel like do you I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Between between him and the d DG and Hallie and
now was Tory Lanez and Megan.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But yeah, it's all court stuff, all craziness, all craziness, man, y'all.
I want to all y'all have been so interactive with
all of my content I am posting. People are like, yo,
when are you posting videos for the podcast? I'm like,
I've been posting videos almost every single day and then
we do a separate audio, so y'all are getting both.
So I'm doing it, but I think I'm really I
(17:34):
thank you guys A lot for engaging. Keep tweeting me.
Let's talk about it this weekend. I'm gonna be catching
up on a lot of like the conversations and the
comments and you know, all those things. I'm just I'm
so thankful for y'all my audience here at the latest
with Laurna Roads. Are the low riders, y'all be riding
for me too. They'd be trying to get on me
about child. I said, prosecution did there big one? People
call me ignorant. That's how I talk. I don't know
(17:56):
what you want me to do what because I'm supposed
to be in adult who talks better than that. Who knows?
I don't know. I don't know what it's given, but
it ain't given ignorant over here, Okay, I'm very very
well spoken. Yes, and the prosecution did do their big
one period well that day they the day after that
(18:17):
they didn't. It was very little. Anything they did yesterday
was little. So yeah, that has been the latest with
Laura and Rosa. Y'all, we gonna let tell it. Let
go because it's her birthday and she needs to go
back to work there. We'll see you guys in the
next episode. I tell you every episode because I really
mean it. At the end of the day, there is
always so much going on and so much to talk about.
Y'all could be anywhere with anybody talking about it, but
(18:38):
you are right here with me every single episode, and
I appreciate y'all. Let's keep going strong, Litwriders. Bring the
people on in the community, Okay. Invite your homegirl, invite
your bro. Everybody's asking about Viddie and let them know
I'm right there. I'm in the courthouse. I can bring
y'all all the details right here on the podcast to
invite them. Tell a friend, to tell a friend it's
the latest with Lauryna Rosa. I will see you guys
(18:59):
in my next episode.
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody. You know, if you don't lie about that, right,
Lauren came. Hey, y'all, it's Laura le Rosa and this
is the Latest with Laurence l Rosa. This is your
daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and
the conversations that really shake the room. I'm your host,
(00:23):
Laura la Rosa and my Low Riders. Welcome on back,
Welcome on back. How am I feeling? How are you feeling? Hello?
Taylor is with me and it is right day. How
you feeling today, Taylor.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm good and I'm grateful. I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You said you got emotional earlier today. You don't get it.
I be like, yo, Taylor, it's like it's like you your baby,
but like you don't be like doing like regular pregnant
people stuff, like you don't be hormonal, you be like
you still. You don't even look pregnant.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Thank you, thank you for saying you just have a
belly and a baby. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I know. Maybe because you're from Philly you don't get emotional.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I think because I'm a tarist, but I was just
like emotional more so just grateful of like where I
was and where I am now and everything. Just happy
for the people that's in my circle and all that.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
You also have a really amazing support system, like your
family and your boyfriend is amazing so to be husband.
I love him for you. I just love the evolution
of like since I met you, like to where you
are now just in your personal life, you know what
I mean. It's like a I feel full for you
and then feel complete and happy for you. So I
can't imagine how you feel. Yeah, so heavy birthday girl.
(01:37):
Make sure y'all go tell Taylor Tailor made it. She
makes all the amazing intros for the Breakfast Club and
she produces this podcast. Make sure you telling my girl
happy birthday. But I feel good as well. I actually,
you know, after completing this week of the Diddy Trial,
I'm like, yo.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I say, I know you're tired.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
My body is like all of this, like because my
days are so much longer now, you know what I mean.
But I do think that this week has really taught
me a lot about like just being able to not
follow the wave, like Charlotte may always be like, don't
follow the wave, create the wave, and like you know,
I think with the case accidentally, that's what I begin
(02:16):
to do by just picking up my phone and telling
y'all what I saw, what I heard, and how I
honestly feel. Even if people are gonna be like, you're
not a lawyer, you're not an handalyst, you're not this,
you're not that, but it's created a like people have
really been appreciating it. Like there's been so many people
who've DM me like that are like, yo, we appreciate
you just being honest, even if it's like you're on
puff side one day, you not on his side, the
(02:37):
next day you on Cassie side, Like they're not picking side.
They just appreciate the clean reporting, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
A lot of like the allys I usually go to
weren't really or they're putting certain statements up like my
ass lying later you can stick to what so much
like even in me trying to figure out like how
to bring all the information to social media and then
the breakfast club and they hear on the podcas like
there's so much information.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's like where do you put what? So normally they
just lean into like what the big stuff is but
to me, I think everything be big. I'll be in there.
Yesterday I was in there like I was watching a novella.
I was like, oh, oh my god. At the court, girl,
they don't even let you. Don't want you eat and
that you're not supposed to eat. You give it your
gum in there. Yeah, it's it's like a thing, especially
if you're in the main courtroom. But yes, so I'm feeling,
(03:24):
you know, a little tired, But I'm also in a
space of gratitude. I've been like that for some time
now though, Like I'm in a really good place. So
I'm feeling I'm reciprocating your energy, Tailor. I appreciate all
the good, good vibes you've been sitting in my way.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yes, well, let's take it to the courts, because I
need to know, yes, cause you know your.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Girl love to take you out of court. Lot to
take y'aut a court, so man. Yesterday was Cassie's first
day of cross examination, which is where a Diddy's defense
team gets to ask her some questions about things she
said on the sand and things that she might not
have said yet that they feel like the people we
should know, the people of the jury should know. I
(04:03):
feel like she was up there looking crazy, like, you know,
I still I empathize for her, you know, and all
of the abuse that she had to endure. And you know,
I was really sitting there yesterday, like ma'am, or the
day before yesterday, when she talked through all of the abuse,
like the physical and mental abuse and things of that nature,
and they were showing us photos of her her bruises
(04:23):
and her basically like her battle wounds from this man,
and I'm like, she did all of that and it
would put on makeup right after literally right after sometimes
and go stand next to him and smile and like
everything was okay. She held it so much in for
so long I cannot imagine being her, Like I can't
imagine being her at all. So to see her on
the stand now and then I feel like the prosecution
(04:45):
didn't protect her in the way that they should have yesterday,
and it was like insane to me, Like I'm just
gonna really quickly go down the list of the things
that they debunked. Tell her. You can ask me questions
you had, but I really wanted to talk about today,
just you know how her personal sex life, not even
with the escorts, but like you know, her dating Michael B. Jordan.
You know a lot of things she did Michael Jordan,
(05:07):
she did they Michael be Jordan, But like a lot
of these things yesterday when we were talking to her
attorney after court, make sure y'all visit my instagram Laurna Rosea,
my YouTube channel Lawrena rose A TV where that interview is.
He her lawyer admitted it's hard for him to hear
a lot of this stuff, and I'm like, I can't
imagine what some conversations is gonna be like after this
court case is over, because yeah, because that's I always
(05:27):
went on.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I wonder if she told him everything because.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I feel like, maybe not this in depth because wow,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It so bad, But like, why would you like because
how she's putting it out there seems like, you know,
she's a victim, and I'm not saying she's not, but
I'm just saying he only knows one side, so now
them reading the other.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Other side of her. That's what I was thinking about, Like,
you know what, I wonder how she positioned it to
him because they're so yesterday on the stand, there are
a lot of different things that they you know, I
want to say call her up on, but I think
it was MRCAO. They showed the other side of it,
and it did make her look and it made her
testimony the day prior it looked a bit crazy. So
(06:13):
the biggest thing was there were so many text messages
that came out. So it was one from two thousand
and nine where she had text puffin and they were
having conversations about the free calls, and she said, I'm
always down to free call. She talked about how aggressive
she wanted the you know, their sexual encounter to be
when they linked up. There were text messages because there
were text messages from the March fifth, twenty sixteen incident,
(06:34):
which was where she we saw her be beat on
video in the Enter Continental Hotel in la and when
the prosecutors gave us some background context via her interview
with them, they use text messages specifically from March fifth,
like just that day and a few of them. Diddy's
team came in on her cross examination yesterday and took
it all the way back to the third right, March third.
(06:56):
When I tell y'all, it painted such a different picture
of you know, I'm not saying that the beating was okay,
they haven't even gotten into that yet as on her
cross examination, But it painted a different picture as to
just the lead up, right, because we were under the impression,
according to her testimony, that the lead up looked like
her just doing this freak off because she had alleged
(07:17):
that she had a big movie premiere coming up and
she didn't want to have it ruined, so she just pleased.
She wanted to please Diddy that weekend so that everything
would be good on Monday. The way that the text
messages were in full when you backed it up to
the third But again, we only see in a couple
of days, right, so there could be where that cut
came out she initiated the freak offf situation. Puff allowed.
(07:37):
He was telling her, since you want to do this,
since it's your freak off, you pick it, you tell
tell me who you want, how you wanted to go.
We should chield up because you got your big movie
premiere Monday. Let's not get too high. Let's let's go
to bed early so we can rest. I didn't, y'all.
I was like, what is happening? This is so different
and why would the prosecution even allow that to go down.
But I'm like, you know, maybe they maybe they got
(07:59):
to come back to that, because that literally is only
one day in a few conversations out of a ten
eleven year relationship, and we know that there was abuse.
We know that he did. Now we know that he
did threaten to expose videos and things of that nature,
because they showed that in text as well. But it
came out on the stand that because they were trying to,
you know, color in the narrative that Cassie was very
(08:21):
jealous of Puff and you know other women he was
dealing with, including kim Porter, the late Kimporter, who was
the mother of the twin girls that he has in
Christian Combs, and the woman Gina, who was a woman
that he was dealing with toward the end of his
in Cassie's relationship, and she says that Gina was one
of the biggest problems. That's why their relationship ended, right,
So they're trying to pin her out to be jealous
and low key without saying it. They were trying to
(08:43):
make out to be this like whoror who was like
a liar and all these things, and I'm like, oh
my god, not after we just spent a day talking
about how she was being dragged up and down hotel
rooms and knots on her head or whatever. But again,
it's court, so you gotta you want to go in
for your side of it. So I'm just sitting there
watching and they bring up she was filming a movie
(09:04):
in South Africa, and they mentioned an actor that she
was dealing with on that movie set, and I knew
that it was not gonna be Jordan because I've been
told this, and I told the guys on the show
this not on the shows. It was behind the scenes
of the show about a week ago, and we were
having a conversation about whether we should have reported it
or not at that time, because the world didn't know
at that time, and we made the decision not to
(09:24):
report it because I just didn't understand why bringing a
woman's past sexual history to try and soften her the
victimization that she did experience, right. But I think.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Then they also say that, you know, did he introduce
her to oral sex?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I think that's the foss yo. They did say that,
and they brought up Ryan Leslie, who was also an
older man, and they were doing that to paint the
picture of like no, you had a type the people
that could help you with your career older, you knew
what you were doing. That's what they were. They didn't
say that, but everything about how they set that up
said that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
But I'm just saying she was sexual being. I don't
feel like did he introduced.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Her to I mean, maybe the other stuff, maybe even
like the freaks whatever they did, but I don't think.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And That's been his whole argument the whole time. That's
been Diddy's argument the whole time of like, you know,
I am, I have a different sexual lifestyle and sexual choice,
and I'm basically a swinger, and we were really high
and really drunk under the influence. I don't even know
some of the stuff I was doing. That has been
one of his defenses. But what they're trying to what
Diddy's team is trying to distance him from, is is
that he coerced or he forced, you know, like a
(10:41):
Cassie and all these other people to be a part
of these freak go off situations. And I feel like
yesterday did a really good job for Diddy's team did
a really good job yesterday of backing him away from
this like man who was forcing and coercing people to
do these things.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It really, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He's going to come off very violent when we spend
a whole day talking about how he beat this woman up.
I didn't know you had heard rumors. And I used
to work for a woman who she worked for Puff
for a long time. She was like one of the
Puff's first employees. She then created a company in the
wine and spirits area that helped him do marketing and
branding around the Rocks. So I worked for her for
(11:21):
a while, so I got to be around and see
things and experience things. And you had heard a lot
about their being alleged abuse physical abuse with Cassie. But
I promise y'all what we saw in court the day
before her cross examination, I didn't know it was that bad.
Like it was so messed. I wanted to cry for her,
and I'm just seeing and hearing about it. Right, So
(11:42):
we go through that full day and then she comes
back on standing. Now they're making her out to be
this like, Okay, we know that that happened, we've already apologized,
we've already taken accountability. But let's get into you, miss girl.
That's what it was given. And I'm like, man, her
husband is in the courtroom up until a certain point
once they started talking about twenty eighteen and on, he's
not there anymore because he also might have to testify.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So it's their reactions.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So I wasn't in the actual court room yesterday. I
was in the overflow room, which is where you could
just watch it on television, so I can still see them.
From what I could see of Puff, his body language
and his demeanor way different yesterday. But it was very
obvious that his team was doing a good job yesterday.
The day before that, at one point I saw him
poor water and his hand was shaking like bad. Way
(12:26):
more relaxed yesterday, like you could tell that his team
felt like they did what they needed to do yesterday.
His team is asking for more time with Cassie because
her last situation, her last cross examination, is supposed to
be completed by today, and it's you know, because she's
pregnant and at this point she could go any day,
you know what I mean. The judge is trying to
(12:46):
make sure that they don't put too much on her
and they get her in and out. But Diddy's team
yesterday made it a point to say and they said
it about three times in court. Cassie is the most
important witness and her cross examination is the most important
thing for his case. So they're like, if you need
more time, judge, you got to allow it. And the
judge agreed. He said, look, if it's substantial and it
makes sense, I'll give you more time. But if not.
You knew for a long time now that today, Friday
(13:09):
the sixteenth, was going to be her last day where
she could be questioned by you guys. You should have
been you know what I mean, you should have guided
your your questioning better. So we'll see what happens. But man,
her and her husband gonna have some conversations after this,
because I mean, she she was doing it with her guy.
Though there were some things that came out in court.
I was like, ooh, I wonder if they talked about that,
(13:30):
Like what else just freaky stuff like there were there
we was so for instance, like you know, the way
that a lot of the freak outs were positioned in
the beginning was like she didn't want to do them,
She did not enjoy them. They were making her physically sick.
She had sores in her mouth, she was getting UTIs
all the time that she couldn't heal because she was
having sex so much, like there was just no regard
for her being at all, and she had no choice
(13:52):
because of how battered, bruised and be in and and drugged.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Up she was.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
She even threw, you know, she admitted that she willingly
took drugs. But at the same time, they kind of
made it seem like almost like a Bobby and Whitney situation,
that like it was because of her relationship with Puff
that she started doing it, and she only did it
with him, right, Even they even burst that bubble yesterday
and talked about how, you know, Diddy did od at
one point, which we did not know, but she was
(14:18):
worse off on drugs than him at some points, and
she talked about how Cassie talked about how Puff had
to call some local drug dealers and tell them you'll
stop serving her. She's doing too much. I'm trying to
get her back, right, But there was a lot of
different sexually explicit things that they couldn't even read in
the courtroom because it was just the different text messages
that they would explain. And she had sent the text,
(14:40):
you know, saying I'm always down a free call. She
had sent text messages talking about how she wanted to
be fucked.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
What was that early when versus like I'm trying to
understand the timeline, It was different.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It was different because like one text like that I'm
always down a freak off was two thousand and nine.
The conversation leading up to the Intercontinental Hotel moment was
twenty sixteen. There were even moments, you know after that,
like like following that beating, the beating conversation where you
know they had exchanged some you know what I'm saying.
And remember she alleged on the stand the day before
(15:13):
her cross examination that her and Puff had went to
dinner and then you know, she alleged that he raped
her in her apartment, but then she went back to
see him the following week, Right, So, I think that
there's going to be more that the defense brings out
as far as like, because they were also painting the
timeline of like so you would go do a freak
off with Puff and then leave that same day after
the freakoff and then go to kit Cutty and then
(15:33):
and then you being Connecticut with Kit Cutty, break it
off with kit Cutty, and then you go right back
with Puff, or you would be like they were trying
to do that whole thing. Like, so, I know that
they're going to lean into more of her sexual activities
because what they're trying to prove is this was consensual.
She wasn't forced, she was into it. Sometimes she was
a choreograph for herself. That's what they're going to lean into.
(15:55):
And I just, man, when her attorney said, and we
have the clip, we can insert the clip, imagine your
man having a find out because some of the stuff too,
she might not have remembered. They were so high. Yeah,
they were so high. She had to understand yesterday some
stuff from twenty seventeen. She said that whole time period
is so like they just were moving and grooving and
getting high at that point, which I will say corroborated
(16:18):
the defense that did he tried to set for himself
of like, yo, I was so high. Some of the
stuff she didn't even count. And she said in twenty seventeen,
a lot of that stuff from that whole year, she
can't even remember certain things. They were so high.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
So yeah, yeah, So do you think that she can
be charged too. I can't guess earlier be good charge.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I mean, I don't know that. I don't know that
she can or she can't indefinitely to be able to say,
I will say. I've been asking that question to, you know,
some people who would know, and I was told that
there may have been a conversation with her about immunity
from what the prosecutors, which would mean she can't be charged.
But I don't know that one hundred percent. Yeah, I
am trying to figure that out. Though. I am trying
(16:59):
to figure that out. It's like, ain't none in the
world happening, But Diddy, I don't know if just because
I'm in court, do you feel like do you I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Between between him and the d DG and Hallie and
now was Tory Lanez and Megan.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But yeah, it's all court stuff, all craziness, all craziness, man, y'all.
I want to all y'all have been so interactive with
all of my content I am posting. People are like, yo,
when are you posting videos for the podcast? I'm like,
I've been posting videos almost every single day and then
we do a separate audio, so y'all are getting both.
So I'm doing it, but I think I'm really I
(17:34):
thank you guys A lot for engaging. Keep tweeting me.
Let's talk about it this weekend. I'm gonna be catching
up on a lot of like the conversations and the
comments and you know, all those things. I'm just I'm
so thankful for y'all my audience here at the latest
with Laurna Roads. Are the low riders, y'all be riding
for me too. They'd be trying to get on me
about child. I said, prosecution did there big one? People
call me ignorant. That's how I talk. I don't know
(17:56):
what you want me to do what because I'm supposed
to be in adult who talks better than that. Who knows?
I don't know. I don't know what it's given, but
it ain't given ignorant over here, Okay, I'm very very
well spoken. Yes, and the prosecution did do their big
one period well that day they the day after that
(18:17):
they didn't. It was very little. Anything they did yesterday
was little. So yeah, that has been the latest with
Laura and Rosa. Y'all, we gonna let tell it. Let
go because it's her birthday and she needs to go
back to work there. We'll see you guys in the
next episode. I tell you every episode because I really
mean it. At the end of the day, there is
always so much going on and so much to talk about.
Y'all could be anywhere with anybody talking about it, but
(18:38):
you are right here with me every single episode, and
I appreciate y'all. Let's keep going strong, Litwriders. Bring the
people on in the community, Okay. Invite your homegirl, invite
your bro. Everybody's asking about Viddie and let them know
I'm right there. I'm in the courthouse. I can bring
y'all all the details right here on the podcast to
invite them. Tell a friend, to tell a friend it's
the latest with Lauryna Rosa. I will see you guys
(18:59):
in my next episode.
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