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In this episode Loren breaks down the details on the latest updates on Atlanta rapper Young Scooter's death, and gives her thoughts about Pastor Marvin Sapp response to the backlash he received for holding congregation "hostage" for $40k donations
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
came in.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello guys, and welcome back. This is episode two of
the Latest with Lauren the Rosa. So you know, since
y'all don't pop my cherry already, you know it's feeling
like home. I'm excited to hear all the feedback. Thank
you for everybody that joined the live that I did
when I went live with the Black Effect Podcast Network.
If you as locked into me as I need y'all
to be, I need you guys to subscribe to the
(00:31):
audio wherever you get your podcasts, the iHeart app, the
you know, the podcast app through Apple, Spotify, all that
good stuff. Subscribe to the audio because that's where everything
will always go first, first, fast, efficient, factual.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That is what we're giving over here. Okay, I'm Laura
l Rosa.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm the homegrowd that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody. And let's get on into this episode, episode two.
So today I'm actually here. I have family in my
apartment as we are recording this. I have friends, My
mom is here, y m y'all see my makeup is done.
My makeup always be done. I was, my makeup is done.
(01:09):
My makeup is always done. Okay, the girl is always giving.
But today this is like special beat, special hair because
we are actually getting ready to.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Head to the launch party for the podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But as all of this was happening, so as my
makeup was getting done, as my hair was getting done,
I got an alert. I'm still subscribed to all of
TMZ's alerts. I also get breaking news via Twitter from
MSNBC N like all these different place uh places, My
phone like never stops with the notifications. And they released
the audio a nine to one one call from the
(01:41):
night that young Scooter UH, the ATL rapper UH that
passed away last weekend on.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
His thirty ninth birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He was running from police and UH towards something or
you know something where he like bled out. There was
an artery or something that was affected. He was running
from police and that happened and he died because of that.
After there was a phone call made to police. So
now we have more information. So the nine one one
call was about a four minute, eight second audio. There
(02:10):
was a woman who called in from the neighborhood. She
was the neighbor of the whatever the house. This was
that young scooter and you know these alleged seven other
men or six other men were at so in the
nine one one call, it opens and it starts with
her saying, hey, I'm neighborhood watch. There are about seven
men in a house. This house has a lot of activity.
(02:31):
I don't know if they're selling drugs out of the house.
I don't know if it's you know, prostitution or trafficking.
Like she alleged a ton of different things, but what
she was saying is like, look, it's something going on
over there. As she's talking police through what she's seeing,
she's saying different things like the woman was fighting with
a man. She mentioned that, you know, within this fight
with this man, the man was not holding back on
(02:54):
this woman. The woman got to a point where whatever
the injuries were that she sustained, she was bleeding insanely.
She says that the woman called someone to the house,
called other men to the house, and there were gunshots
that went off.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
After those gunshots.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Went off, is when the physical altercation between that woman
at this neighborhood watch person is seeing and whoever this
man is and she doesn't identify the man, so we
don't know who the man was. And she kept saying
I think she said at about two or three times
that there there was a child involved because that there
the woman just had a baby, that there was a
baby somewhere or a child somewhere in this house or
(03:29):
somewhere in the situation. But this phone call, which Atlanta
Police have released, now, the craziest part about this is
that the woman right who called in, who says, Hey,
I'm neighborhood watch. This is what I'm seeing. Police don't
even know that they haven't located her. They're trying to
locate her. That's that was the point in them putting
a call out. So I reached out to law enforcement sources.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
My name is Lauren. I want to go to area.
So I was reaching out. I saw the want order
on the guys release for the the young the young
scooter death. I had a question for you. So I
know when you guys at the press conference uh over
the weekend, you would said that you never located a
woman or spoke to a woman or anything like that.
The call is pretty detailed and in what the Neighborhood
(04:15):
Watched persman has describe it have you got since talk
to a woman or anybody additional that points to a
woman or like does anything is there anything additional from
that press conference that we heard before gotcha?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
After speaking to lawenforcement sources, I now understand that they
put the nine one one call out because they're actually
trying to locate this woman. This is like a huge
development to have a witness like that, even though they
don't know who she is yet, but to have someone
out there who saw and describe things of that nature.
The case is saw up at this point, if you
asks me, they just gotta get to her.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think by the end of the week.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Uh, police in Atlanta should have a lot more of
a zone than air too. What actually led up to
the death of young Scooter? Now second, uh, we gonna
go to the church. So Marvin Sap for some background
for you guys who first of all, do not know
who he is. Marvin Sap is uh never could have
(05:08):
made it, never would have made it. That song is probably,
like I would say, one of the the the biggest,
Like it's like a calling card to the black church
at this point, black church, black funeral, all those things.
But he is also a preacher as well. So he
was in a church conference. He instructed ushers to close
doors and uh, he instructed people on the live stream
(05:31):
and people in the church, including you know, everybody on
a pool pit to give twenty dollars. People on a
pool pick had to give a hundred dollars. So he
put a door tab on the Hallelujah. And people are
not okay with that at all, n like, not at all.
And now he's coming out and he's talking about some
of the things that he's experiencing because of that. So
(05:52):
Marvin Sap sat down with the Ricky Smiley s Show
and he basically he's trying to clear it up. Like
I feel like when marvels sat first came out with
his statement. Once this video went ReViral because again this
video is from July of twenty twenty four, so this
is not a new video.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It went viral again.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I don't know what why, but when things are on
the internet, that's what it does. But he posted something
on Facebook basically saying like, look, he was at a convention.
He had over four thousand people in attendance that evening,
including the virtual viewers, and in the moment he challenged
leadership and the people that were viewing to sew a
(06:31):
different amount of different amounts of money. So he asked
the two thousand people that were viewing virtually and in
person to sew twenty dollars. And when I say so,
for those of you who are not black church big
hat church goers, so accede or sowing the church is
like ties to offering. So that's when you give your
money to the church. So he had asked the viewers
and the people just attending church to give twenty dollars,
(06:53):
and then if you were there and any official capacity
on the pool point, you had to give one hundred dollars.
He made it clear that that evening he personally gave
much more. He broke it down. He said he had
to pay basically like a licensing or something that he
has to do it in order to like be able
to preach, and then some other things.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So he spent well over two thousand dollars that night,
he said.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And then he made it clear this money would have
been for the church's like convention budget. It was not
going directly to him. Uh, this was not even at
his church. I don't know if that even really matters, though,
to be honest with you, because when I saw the
reaction to it, I don't think that people were asking, like, YO,
is this his church?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He gotta pay his light bill? I know I did.
Some people were saying, Yo, what bills does he have
to pay?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But I don't think that it mattered y'all care about
where Like when y'all heard this story, did y'all think
is this his church?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Or no? No, you didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
A lot of people didn't care about the location of
the church. So I thought that that was kind of
odd for him to clear that up. I kN I saw,
I know what he was trying to do by saying that,
but I thought it was odd because to me, it's like,
regardless of where you are, it just doesn't look good
for a church to be doing time as an offering
and receiving money in that manner. And I think the
biggest issue that people had with him and that I
(08:06):
had with him personally not even have an issue, but
the thing that struck me as like, ooh, okay, that
was a little bit, that was.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
A little bit much was his tone when.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He instructed the ushers to lock the doors or to
close the doors, because I think he also said it
never he Smiley interviewed. He never said lock, he said close,
but he said it very assertively. But he did also
try and say too that the reason why he was
as assertive as he was was because during that time,
when people were collecting money in church, it's a very
vulnerable time. It's an emotionally vulnerable time. And I think
(08:36):
he was referring to the fact that, like, you know,
just safety wise, because of money being passed around, the
things of that nature, like people coming in or doing
whatever in the church during that time.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But let me tell y'all, Okay, I go to church.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yes, I take my shots, Yes, I you know, I mean,
I have a good time, but I do go to church.
I've never felt like you needed to lock the doors
of the church like Riker's Island when assigned to tithe.
I've never felt like that most of the time, to
be honest with y'all, in these big megachurches like where
they were, you're tithing and you're offering. Is happening digitally,
(09:09):
So I don't know, if you know, Marvin sat thought
that the digital dirty bandits were gonna come in and
rob everybody of.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Their iPhones and their WiFi.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But I don't understand what security breaches he thought thought
might've happened. And also too, I feel like if if
that's how you felt about that time, I can understand
it being a sacred time only because you're praying.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's like alter call.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Like you know, if you were raised in a church,
you know there are certain times where you don't just
get up and lead church.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And I can understand that.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
But I do think the whole oh, I was trying
to make sure that we were safe while money was
being passed around or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I know he's a preacher. God forgive me.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I'm gonna take a shot after I say this, being
just you know, I think that that was bullshit because
there's no way that like th it just doesn't happen.
That's like me having to go through uh a security
scanner before I walk into a church. There are some
churches that do have that right, but it's to everyday thing.
This is not just a one off thing. And I
don't see any other videos of him, and y'all correct
(10:05):
me if I'm wrong. I've never seen any other videos
of Marvin Sapp and I don't dislike him.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I love his music.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I do think that he's annoying it man by God,
but I think he's human and he made a mistake,
and I would just like for him to own up
to that instead of trying to now play victim like
he's doing and to act oblivious to what he did
in the position that he's in and why people are upset.
There are churches that do have security measures, but I
think if you're doing all of that, prior to the
security measures or whatever, you don't have to get on
(10:32):
a microphone and say close the doors, close the doors,
nobody leave. We need to get this amount of money.
I just don't see how to correlate. I think that
there was a way to make people feel safe without
making them feel trapped.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And that's my point.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And I think that the interview that Marvin Sapp just
did with Ricky Smiley, to me, it was annoying to
see it because it's like, Okay, I get that you
might not have meant any harm by it, and you
thought you were doing a good thing because you're trying
to raise his budget for this church convention. There are
people who solely come to church, and don't get me wrong,
churches are businesses. Churches are places that you come you
(11:05):
use their electric, use their water, you eat their snacks,
you use their oil, you eat them crackers that don't
taste like nothing, but they cost money. All of that
stuff tech costs money. And I don't know how y'all
were raised, but you don't go on nobody house eating
their food and don't asks can you buy something?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
But at the same time, there are people who come
to church without anything who are looking to be put
back together so they can get to a point where
they can even tie. And all of us have been there,
So I think that it was just it was just
distasteful and instead of you know, to me both of
the times that I've heard him speak about this, instead
of him just coming out and saying, hey, I understand
why y'all are upset.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I understand why.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
This may be deemed by some as distasteful, even though
that was not my intention. But I apologize. And here's
what you know. Here, here's what the conversation around tithing
and offering should be. Here's why it matters in the church.
Here is you know, the biblical texts around it about
you know, the gifts that were given way like this
is not new tithe, tithing, and offering the it's not new,
(12:01):
giving gifts, offering up, it's not new, But I think
that we're getting away from such a major conversation. I
think that that's one of the biggest issues when it
comes to the Black Church. It's like we focus on
things that are like not important to bring us back
to a realm, bring to bring us back around to what.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
People's issue is with the church.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's the humans in the church and their issues and
if you're going to have a human moment, and if
you're going to mess up in a human moment, it's fine,
but be human to know that that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
We'll say though that Marvin Sap has said that now
he's receiving death threats because of this. That's too much.
Y'all don't even go to church that much to even care. Okay,
like that is just too much. Receiving death threats is
crazy over this. It's it's not that big big of
a deal, but he said that he's receiving death threats.
He said that now his children are afraid because he's
a widower. His wife passed away, so his children are
(12:52):
seeing those different threats online and in the comments, and
they're scared, uh for their dad. And because of that,
he's had to beef up security at you know, where
ever he's going his churches. He's had to you know,
do different things at his home. I think that that's unfair.
People make mistakes. It happens. Let's all learn from it,
let's all grow from it. But I do think that
a little bit more of like a empathy, Hey, I
(13:13):
messed up, probably would change your tone around us a lot.
And now I don't think that that's where the focus
is right now. And I just don't understand why the
focus is not there whatsoever. All of this is because
of a big misunderstanding. Is Yeah, the n P pulling up.
He even said people are pulling up to the churches
and to his like, to his church and the churches
where he's at with issues. Y'all crazy as hell to
(13:36):
pull up on a pastor. I think his wording was wrong.
I think his and his assertiveness was wrong. But I
don't think that he has ill intent. I don't know personally,
but that's just not what I gather from it. And
also too, I've seen videos now of other preachers who
have done the same thing almost like a telethon, where
like you're trying to raise money, tryna raise money, tryna
raise money.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I just hopefully he sits down and has the conversation
with somebody that's gonna like challenge him, baby, because love
Ricky Smiley. Hey Ricky, I know you probably listening, Love
you to death. But I didn't feel like he was
challenging enough in this conversation either cause there were some
things that I feel like were simple conversation or simple
questions that should have been asks in response to what
he said. So I would say, we we gonna stay
locked to this, but baby, hopefully ain't no more, cause
(14:16):
hopefully the church God what they needed, and the conference
will happen again next year and he gonna save all
the Saints or something. Now, this has been the latest
with Lorna Rose. I appreciate you guys for tuning on in.
Don't forget we are here daily. So every morning at
six am, I'm your daily dose of what's going down
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(14:39):
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Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'll see you guys in my next episod.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Oh
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
came in.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello guys, and welcome back. This is episode two of
the Latest with Lauren the Rosa. So you know, since
y'all don't pop my cherry already, you know it's feeling
like home. I'm excited to hear all the feedback. Thank
you for everybody that joined the live that I did
when I went live with the Black Effect Podcast Network.
If you as locked into me as I need y'all
to be, I need you guys to subscribe to the
(00:31):
audio wherever you get your podcasts, the iHeart app, the
you know, the podcast app through Apple, Spotify, all that
good stuff. Subscribe to the audio because that's where everything
will always go first, first, fast, efficient, factual.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That is what we're giving over here. Okay, I'm Laura
l Rosa.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm the homegrowd that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody. And let's get on into this episode, episode two.
So today I'm actually here. I have family in my
apartment as we are recording this. I have friends, My
mom is here, y m y'all see my makeup is done.
My makeup always be done. I was, my makeup is done.
(01:09):
My makeup is always done. Okay, the girl is always giving.
But today this is like special beat, special hair because
we are actually getting ready to.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Head to the launch party for the podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But as all of this was happening, so as my
makeup was getting done, as my hair was getting done,
I got an alert. I'm still subscribed to all of
TMZ's alerts. I also get breaking news via Twitter from
MSNBC N like all these different place uh places, My
phone like never stops with the notifications. And they released
the audio a nine to one one call from the
(01:41):
night that young Scooter UH, the ATL rapper UH that
passed away last weekend on.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
His thirty ninth birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He was running from police and UH towards something or
you know something where he like bled out. There was
an artery or something that was affected. He was running
from police and that happened and he died because of that.
After there was a phone call made to police. So
now we have more information. So the nine one one
call was about a four minute, eight second audio. There
(02:10):
was a woman who called in from the neighborhood. She
was the neighbor of the whatever the house. This was
that young scooter and you know these alleged seven other
men or six other men were at so in the
nine one one call, it opens and it starts with
her saying, hey, I'm neighborhood watch. There are about seven
men in a house. This house has a lot of activity.
(02:31):
I don't know if they're selling drugs out of the house.
I don't know if it's you know, prostitution or trafficking.
Like she alleged a ton of different things, but what
she was saying is like, look, it's something going on
over there. As she's talking police through what she's seeing,
she's saying different things like the woman was fighting with
a man. She mentioned that, you know, within this fight
with this man, the man was not holding back on
(02:54):
this woman. The woman got to a point where whatever
the injuries were that she sustained, she was bleeding insanely.
She says that the woman called someone to the house,
called other men to the house, and there were gunshots
that went off.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
After those gunshots.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Went off, is when the physical altercation between that woman
at this neighborhood watch person is seeing and whoever this
man is and she doesn't identify the man, so we
don't know who the man was. And she kept saying
I think she said at about two or three times
that there there was a child involved because that there
the woman just had a baby, that there was a
baby somewhere or a child somewhere in this house or
(03:29):
somewhere in the situation. But this phone call, which Atlanta
Police have released, now, the craziest part about this is
that the woman right who called in, who says, Hey,
I'm neighborhood watch. This is what I'm seeing. Police don't
even know that they haven't located her. They're trying to
locate her. That's that was the point in them putting
a call out. So I reached out to law enforcement sources.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
My name is Lauren. I want to go to area.
So I was reaching out. I saw the want order
on the guys release for the the young the young
scooter death. I had a question for you. So I
know when you guys at the press conference uh over
the weekend, you would said that you never located a
woman or spoke to a woman or anything like that.
The call is pretty detailed and in what the Neighborhood
(04:15):
Watched persman has describe it have you got since talk
to a woman or anybody additional that points to a
woman or like does anything is there anything additional from
that press conference that we heard before gotcha?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
After speaking to lawenforcement sources, I now understand that they
put the nine one one call out because they're actually
trying to locate this woman. This is like a huge
development to have a witness like that, even though they
don't know who she is yet, but to have someone
out there who saw and describe things of that nature.
The case is saw up at this point, if you
asks me, they just gotta get to her.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think by the end of the week.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Uh, police in Atlanta should have a lot more of
a zone than air too. What actually led up to
the death of young Scooter? Now second, uh, we gonna
go to the church. So Marvin Sap for some background
for you guys who first of all, do not know
who he is. Marvin Sap is uh never could have
(05:08):
made it, never would have made it. That song is probably,
like I would say, one of the the the biggest,
Like it's like a calling card to the black church
at this point, black church, black funeral, all those things.
But he is also a preacher as well. So he
was in a church conference. He instructed ushers to close
doors and uh, he instructed people on the live stream
(05:31):
and people in the church, including you know, everybody on
a pool pit to give twenty dollars. People on a
pool pick had to give a hundred dollars. So he
put a door tab on the Hallelujah. And people are
not okay with that at all, n like, not at all.
And now he's coming out and he's talking about some
of the things that he's experiencing because of that. So
(05:52):
Marvin Sap sat down with the Ricky Smiley s Show
and he basically he's trying to clear it up. Like
I feel like when marvels sat first came out with
his statement. Once this video went ReViral because again this
video is from July of twenty twenty four, so this
is not a new video.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It went viral again.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I don't know what why, but when things are on
the internet, that's what it does. But he posted something
on Facebook basically saying like, look, he was at a convention.
He had over four thousand people in attendance that evening,
including the virtual viewers, and in the moment he challenged
leadership and the people that were viewing to sew a
(06:31):
different amount of different amounts of money. So he asked
the two thousand people that were viewing virtually and in
person to sew twenty dollars. And when I say so,
for those of you who are not black church big
hat church goers, so accede or sowing the church is
like ties to offering. So that's when you give your
money to the church. So he had asked the viewers
and the people just attending church to give twenty dollars,
(06:53):
and then if you were there and any official capacity
on the pool point, you had to give one hundred dollars.
He made it clear that that evening he personally gave
much more. He broke it down. He said he had
to pay basically like a licensing or something that he
has to do it in order to like be able
to preach, and then some other things.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So he spent well over two thousand dollars that night,
he said.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And then he made it clear this money would have
been for the church's like convention budget. It was not
going directly to him. Uh, this was not even at
his church. I don't know if that even really matters, though,
to be honest with you, because when I saw the
reaction to it, I don't think that people were asking, like, YO,
is this his church?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He gotta pay his light bill? I know I did.
Some people were saying, Yo, what bills does he have
to pay?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But I don't think that it mattered y'all care about
where Like when y'all heard this story, did y'all think
is this his church?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Or no? No, you didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
A lot of people didn't care about the location of
the church. So I thought that that was kind of
odd for him to clear that up. I kN I saw,
I know what he was trying to do by saying that,
but I thought it was odd because to me, it's like,
regardless of where you are, it just doesn't look good
for a church to be doing time as an offering
and receiving money in that manner. And I think the
biggest issue that people had with him and that I
(08:06):
had with him personally not even have an issue, but
the thing that struck me as like, ooh, okay, that
was a little bit, that was.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
A little bit much was his tone when.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He instructed the ushers to lock the doors or to
close the doors, because I think he also said it
never he Smiley interviewed. He never said lock, he said close,
but he said it very assertively. But he did also
try and say too that the reason why he was
as assertive as he was was because during that time,
when people were collecting money in church, it's a very
vulnerable time. It's an emotionally vulnerable time. And I think
(08:36):
he was referring to the fact that, like, you know,
just safety wise, because of money being passed around, the
things of that nature, like people coming in or doing
whatever in the church during that time.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But let me tell y'all, Okay, I go to church.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yes, I take my shots, Yes, I you know, I mean,
I have a good time, but I do go to church.
I've never felt like you needed to lock the doors
of the church like Riker's Island when assigned to tithe.
I've never felt like that most of the time, to
be honest with y'all, in these big megachurches like where
they were, you're tithing and you're offering. Is happening digitally,
(09:09):
So I don't know, if you know, Marvin sat thought
that the digital dirty bandits were gonna come in and
rob everybody of.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Their iPhones and their WiFi.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But I don't understand what security breaches he thought thought
might've happened. And also too, I feel like if if
that's how you felt about that time, I can understand
it being a sacred time only because you're praying.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's like alter call.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Like you know, if you were raised in a church,
you know there are certain times where you don't just
get up and lead church.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And I can understand that.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
But I do think the whole oh, I was trying
to make sure that we were safe while money was
being passed around or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I know he's a preacher. God forgive me.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I'm gonna take a shot after I say this, being
just you know, I think that that was bullshit because
there's no way that like th it just doesn't happen.
That's like me having to go through uh a security
scanner before I walk into a church. There are some
churches that do have that right, but it's to everyday thing.
This is not just a one off thing. And I
don't see any other videos of him, and y'all correct
(10:05):
me if I'm wrong. I've never seen any other videos
of Marvin Sapp and I don't dislike him.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I love his music.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I do think that he's annoying it man by God,
but I think he's human and he made a mistake,
and I would just like for him to own up
to that instead of trying to now play victim like
he's doing and to act oblivious to what he did
in the position that he's in and why people are upset.
There are churches that do have security measures, but I
think if you're doing all of that, prior to the
security measures or whatever, you don't have to get on
(10:32):
a microphone and say close the doors, close the doors,
nobody leave. We need to get this amount of money.
I just don't see how to correlate. I think that
there was a way to make people feel safe without
making them feel trapped.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And that's my point.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And I think that the interview that Marvin Sapp just
did with Ricky Smiley, to me, it was annoying to
see it because it's like, Okay, I get that you
might not have meant any harm by it, and you
thought you were doing a good thing because you're trying
to raise his budget for this church convention. There are
people who solely come to church, and don't get me wrong,
churches are businesses. Churches are places that you come you
(11:05):
use their electric, use their water, you eat their snacks,
you use their oil, you eat them crackers that don't
taste like nothing, but they cost money. All of that
stuff tech costs money. And I don't know how y'all
were raised, but you don't go on nobody house eating
their food and don't asks can you buy something?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
But at the same time, there are people who come
to church without anything who are looking to be put
back together so they can get to a point where
they can even tie. And all of us have been there,
So I think that it was just it was just
distasteful and instead of you know, to me both of
the times that I've heard him speak about this, instead
of him just coming out and saying, hey, I understand
why y'all are upset.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I understand why.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
This may be deemed by some as distasteful, even though
that was not my intention. But I apologize. And here's
what you know. Here, here's what the conversation around tithing
and offering should be. Here's why it matters in the church.
Here is you know, the biblical texts around it about
you know, the gifts that were given way like this
is not new tithe, tithing, and offering the it's not new,
(12:01):
giving gifts, offering up, it's not new, But I think
that we're getting away from such a major conversation. I
think that that's one of the biggest issues when it
comes to the Black Church. It's like we focus on
things that are like not important to bring us back
to a realm, bring to bring us back around to what.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
People's issue is with the church.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's the humans in the church and their issues and
if you're going to have a human moment, and if
you're going to mess up in a human moment, it's fine,
but be human to know that that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
We'll say though that Marvin Sap has said that now
he's receiving death threats because of this. That's too much.
Y'all don't even go to church that much to even care. Okay,
like that is just too much. Receiving death threats is
crazy over this. It's it's not that big big of
a deal, but he said that he's receiving death threats.
He said that now his children are afraid because he's
a widower. His wife passed away, so his children are
(12:52):
seeing those different threats online and in the comments, and
they're scared, uh for their dad. And because of that,
he's had to beef up security at you know, where
ever he's going his churches. He's had to you know,
do different things at his home. I think that that's unfair.
People make mistakes. It happens. Let's all learn from it,
let's all grow from it. But I do think that
a little bit more of like a empathy, Hey, I
(13:13):
messed up, probably would change your tone around us a lot.
And now I don't think that that's where the focus
is right now. And I just don't understand why the
focus is not there whatsoever. All of this is because
of a big misunderstanding. Is Yeah, the n P pulling up.
He even said people are pulling up to the churches
and to his like, to his church and the churches
where he's at with issues. Y'all crazy as hell to
(13:36):
pull up on a pastor. I think his wording was wrong.
I think his and his assertiveness was wrong. But I
don't think that he has ill intent. I don't know personally,
but that's just not what I gather from it. And
also too, I've seen videos now of other preachers who
have done the same thing almost like a telethon, where
like you're trying to raise money, tryna raise money, tryna
raise money.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I just hopefully he sits down and has the conversation
with somebody that's gonna like challenge him, baby, because love
Ricky Smiley. Hey Ricky, I know you probably listening, Love
you to death. But I didn't feel like he was
challenging enough in this conversation either cause there were some
things that I feel like were simple conversation or simple
questions that should have been asks in response to what
he said. So I would say, we we gonna stay
locked to this, but baby, hopefully ain't no more, cause
(14:16):
hopefully the church God what they needed, and the conference
will happen again next year and he gonna save all
the Saints or something. Now, this has been the latest
with Lorna Rose. I appreciate you guys for tuning on in.
Don't forget we are here daily. So every morning at
six am, I'm your daily dose of what's going down
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(14:39):
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Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'll see you guys in my next episod.
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