December 5, 2025 • 21 mins
From May of 2025 - The Best Of The Buck Brief. Is Michelle Obama the most overrated person of our time? Author and commentator Peachy Keenan joins the show to weigh in. From Michelle’s floundering podcast to the performative nature of progressive book collections, we break down the media machine propping up the Obamas, and why fewer people are tuning in. Peachy, author of Domestic Extremist, offers insights into the culture war, elite institutions, and the illusion of influence. They also take a detour into the Ivy League and why Trump going after Harvard is just the beginning.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Is Michelle Obama the most overrated person of our lifetime?
To answer this question that the masters are clamoring for
answers too, we are joined for the first time by
Peachey Canaan. She is an author and a commentator and
author of the book Domestic Extremist, which I would highly
recommend to all of you and is in the background
for those of you watching us on Twitter. Peachee, I'll
(00:41):
hand this question off to you. I'm sure you've seen
some of Michelle's podcast entries so far, and wow, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
A that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But I would say she's probably second to her illustrious husband.
It must run in the run in their family. But yeah,
her her podcast is really funny. I think there was.
It's very obviously. I think what happened there after the
November election, all the like you know, Pods of America
bros were like, we need podcasts, we need a better
we need better messengers Trump one because of Rogan and
(01:15):
all these bro podcasts. What can we do to reclaim
podcasting for the Democrats, and like, who was the first
person they called Michelle Obama because America is dying to
hear from her, and uh yeah, her and her weird
brother who looks like a looks like a drag queen
out of his makeup, doesn't he Like, they're just so
(01:37):
very weird pair.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I don't know, no one's watching this right, Like, are
you watching this? Like?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Does anyone wanting I see some of the clips. I
will tell you. As I was talking with this on radio,
my wife, who is always up on the latest media
eyed stuff because she used to work at Fox News,
she sent me that Michelle Obama's podcast on you know YouTube.
You can see the views it has in three or
four episodes. The audience has gone from I think a
couple hundred thousand down to it's cut in half, which
(02:03):
is not what you would expect for a former First lady,
with the entire media not only rooting for her but
telling you that she is simultaneously a saint genius and
the greatest person I know. I don't want to fight
with you, Peach, but I'll say this with Barack Obama,
if you criticized him, you were racist. With uh. With
Michelle Obama, if you criticized her, you were you were
(02:26):
actually hitler, and that's that's I think those were the rules,
right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I think it's incredible hubris of these first ladies. I
think Hillary Clinton is another example of this, who think
that because their husbands won, because they had some political
flare or whatever, that they also won something like they
also were awarded best Personality of the Year or whatever
it is, and they go on to have these media
(02:52):
careers and I'm not really sure what and they're just
completely propped up by I don't know. I mean, she
did sell a lot of books, Okay, she did have
these big book tours and sell million millions of books supposedly,
although I would go to Costco and there'd be a
huge stack of Michelle Obama books, you know, discounted for
like four ninety nine inah.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So this is so funny to me because I've thought
about this many times because I've been in people's homes
and one of the things that you can tell about somebody, right, well, rather,
all you really need to do to know a lot
about a person is first of all, do they have
any books in their home? And then second of all,
when you look at the books they have, are these
books that are for reading or books that are for showing?
(03:30):
And I think Michelle Obama books are books that people have,
even if it's not a coffee table book, they haven't
like on or near the coffee table or like prominent
on the shelf because it's a you know, hey, look
at me. I think I would guess, And there's no
way of ever knowing because people people all lie about how.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Much they read.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
They certainly lie about what books they've read, what books
they read, what books they've read. Sorry, but the truth
to me is that Michelle Obama books, of the people
who bought them, I would guess less than ten percent
actually read the book in any meaning.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Right, it's right.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But if you have the book and someone sees it
in your house, they know you're not racists. Yeah, it's
it's right next to white fragility, you know, and maybe
like an Ebram X Candy children's book or whatever, and
you know whatever those little he was making, like anti
anti racist baby board books.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You remember, it's all this whole.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm not a racist because I have the correct media,
the correct media diet, so I'm allowed.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
To be white My favorite coffee shop when I lived
in New York that was near me was a place
called Ground Central, and it was exactly I mean it was.
You could look at the entire this was in Manhattan.
Tire staff clearly came in from like transitioning parts of Brooklyn, right.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
They were all white.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
They're all coming in from like you know, their bedsty,
you know share uh and you know they they've stopped
like pickling their own beats or whatever for a minute
to come here. Now, I will say the coffee, the
coffee was amazing. But but and that's why I had
to keep going there reading shelf that they had. I
used to take photos of this because I was it
was so immaculately curated to show everybody what the people
(05:16):
who worked in this store wanted people to believe they're about.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It was all that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It was Ibra Mix, Kendy, Michelle Obama, Tana Hesse Coates.
It was like like not a they never I never once,
with the exception of Robin DiAngelo. And I mean this,
And I got my coffee there every day. Saw on
their reading shelf, which was like prominently displayed a book
written by a white person. Not allowed, not not Okay, no,
that's so anyway, So you buy a Michelle Obama book
(05:42):
and it's it's like, you get it all done.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You don't even have to have the whole shelf. You
just show everybody who you are.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Actually that I think the Harvard English Literature curriculum probably
matches the Starbucks that that that your coffee shops.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, I'm sure recommended booklets.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I can't even imagine. When I went to AMers twenty
twenty something years ago. Now it was our Yeah, it
was already insane. And I try to tell people stories
and they're like, there's no way it was that crazy.
I'm like, no, no, I promise it was just as crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I was gonna say Trump is Hitler, Bush's Hitler, and
like we're fascist. Flag burning after nine to eleven that
happened on my campus, Like yeah, it was real.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Oh yeah, and that was a real thing. I was there.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean, obviously not burning the flags. They had cops there,
classic lib thing. They had to make sure the cops
were there because they knew that if they just did
this people would punch them, so they had the cops
there to defend them. Burning the American flag after nine
to eleven because they want to stick it to the patriarchy.
I'm like, except for these cops who are dudes with
guns that you're begging to protect you, let's come back
(06:43):
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going after Harvard, which is I love and I'd say
(08:08):
these people do It's not just Harvard. I'd love it
if you did it to AMers too, and I went there.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I think this is fantastic. Why do you think it's fantastic.
I'm guessing you at least feel that way about it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, I love it. I you know, I went to
the Ivy League.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I didn't didn't go to Harvard. But I think they
should all, you know, burn them all down at this.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Point, and not just Cornell, because if you went to Cornell,
I think I have to make fun, okay, because I
love I love the Cornell people who are always like, well,
I went to an Ivy League school, and it's just
like if you say that and not the name, it's
usually Cornell.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm not thinking I don't want to be docs, but
I yeah, I did. I did.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I did not go to Cornell or Harvard. You can
use you know, keep guessing, but I won't tell you.
But anyway, they're all like this, not just Harvard. The
ucs here in California are like this. Also with the numbers.
I just wrote an article about this at tom Clint
Klingenstein dot com called poisoned IVYS, which is about how,
(09:02):
you know, the great replacement or whatever has already been
completed at many of these elite institutions were large numbers
of the student body is no longer American, and not
even like you know, undocumented whatever American like people here,
like you know, the children of illegals, the dreamers, not
even them.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
People who literally arrive in this.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Country for the first day of school can kind of
barely speak English from you know, the Chinese mainland and.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
The Gulf States, and you know, rich, rich people from
around the world are coming into these schools and what
is it a thirty percent including grad school at Harvard,
and I think similarly at UCLA. Okay, and like in
terms of UCLA, like the state schools, these are schools
that we pay for, like Californians pay for these schools.
We fund these state schools UCLA, Berkeley, UC San Diego.
(09:56):
These were schools.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Built your tax dollars from your property taxes, your income
taxes in California, which you're insane, is the reason that
UCLA et cetera exists.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Right, We pay for them to educate California kids. That's
the goal of these schools, just like the University of
Texas is for largely kids in Texas. Right, these state
schools should be educating majority of the kids in California.
And then there's out of state kids too who go like, yes,
from another state, you should be Yes, you're allowed in
to U.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
See you pay high way harder tuition.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Fine, you want to put a few international kids who
are like some kind of spectacular nerds or whatever, you know,
super nerds, you know, into MIT whatever. Great, But in
these huge numbers, what it's done is made these schools
just honestly so difficult to get into. On top of
just the regular American you know, DEI, affirmative action filters,
(10:53):
like you have all of this. So if you're just like,
let's say, a very high achieving, you know, straight white
kid who isn't gay or trans or queer or whatever
and has a very high GPA and does great on
the SATs and stuff, he's literally got no shot unless
he's a superstar varsity athlete or has some other extraordinary
(11:14):
you know, capability in him. There's just no shot. Ucla
was my safety school, Okay. When I went to college,
Ucla was like beneath me, Like I was like I
would never have been caught dead.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Like, let's just like now it.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Had because it had like a fifty sixty seventy percent acceptance, right,
you know, I wanted to go to like a fancy
private school in the East Coast. Now UCLA is eight
percent acceptance, Okay, eight percent. That's insane to me. Yeah,
and then all the spots, So how many spots are
actually in each freshman class for kids like kids like
(11:49):
my son California, you know, can't check any diversity boxes
high achieving, Like, how many spots in that class go
to kids like that?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Like one hundred spots? Like very small, They're just.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Being taken up by so many of these foreign students
who are paying yes, full price, and so seeing it
happen at Harvard is thrilling. And they meanwhile, half of
them are what Chinese CCP spies.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well, this is the other.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
So there's I break this down peach into there's the
America first component of this, which I think that is
very apt for this aspect of it in California couldn't
be any more clear. I mean state schools. You're you're
educating foreign kids in our state schools in huge numbers, right,
you know, you want to talk about like diversity. I'm
a little bit okay with the idea of a small
(12:35):
percentage of the student body comes from other countries, because
that is kind of interesting. But I want it to
be I want it to be five percent, maybe ten percent,
max max mit thirty percent. You Penn thirty percent, Harvard
thirty foreign kids. I think Colombia is more like fifty percent.
(12:56):
I mean these schools.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Columbia is really weird.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, Columbia is super high. These schools are just full
of kids from all over the world. And by the way,
this whole notion of like oh well, like we're taking
the best of the best, full crap. They can't based
on what and this this idea that we shouldn't advantage.
So there's the America first components you would agree on.
But what you touched on about this as well is
(13:19):
is the the CCP. I mean, you look at MIT,
you look at where the government funding is in some
of these schools. Critically the schools you actually have to
be able to do something to go, which is kind
of to their to their credit, right, Like, you don't
go to cal Tech because Daddy donated the you know,
the the lounge room for the crew team, right, Like,
if you go to cal Tech, my chances are you
can do some math. I would assume, uh, same thing
(13:40):
with mi T Like if you go to these places,
there's a there's a skill set that but they also
do things like figure out how to do missile technology
and they also work on drones. And the university technology
centers are infiltrated by the CCP and other places all
the time. We're supposed to think that they're really good
(14:01):
at keeping the stuff out of the hands of foreign students.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
But why is the CCP so obsessed with sending their
kids here? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I think it's obvious. What's happening there exploiting all these.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Loopholes and their children are these you know rich the
rich children of you know, the Chinese elite. But when
they come here, they're just another diversity quota box that
they've been able to check off. Oh, a student of
Asian descent, a foreign student, and so that makes the
school feel good, look good. Look at our numbers they
(14:31):
love to put in the brochure, over fifty percent you know,
minority whatever students. These children are not minorities in China.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
No Chinese person is a minority, like in the world,
like chin Chinese are like what a third of the world, Like,
they're not minorities.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Okay, yeah, they're Chinese are the least minority people on
a global scale, right in existence?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Right, they don't need our schools like, they do not
need our schools. They have plenty of schools. Why are
they so interested in sending it here? Is it for
the prestige of Harvard? Okay, they can go and brag
if their kid is at the American university? Is it
so their children can then have anchor babies and they
can all then now the whole family gets a passport.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
This is what I tell access to the United States.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Okay, well you see this in California. And I've been
using this argument for years because of people it's always
like what about the dreamers, and like you know, uh,
you know, a little so and so just came across
the border. He's going to start the next school. I'm like, okay,
this is on the birthright citizenship issue a whole. On
a second, in California, they have hotels. I know you
know this, but for the audience, they have hotels. We're Chinese,
(15:35):
and it's overwhelmingly Chinese who do this. Chinese show up,
give birth, go back to China, and then come back
when they're eighteen with a US passport in hand, go
to UCLA or USC or whatever with their with their
American citizenship, even though they are fully Chinese, and then
they sponsor their whole family to come over here and we're.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
H and they pay and then they pay in state tuition.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, yeah, fourteen thousand a year versus like forty out
of state or foreign.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So it's a complete scam. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
In the in Orange, they have these houses and they're
just Chinese anchor baby mills, and they'll be a home
filled with like fifteen or twenty Chinese women and they
come here pregnant, they deliver and then go back and
they even have like a there's even a surrogacy industry
where Chinese couple in China will ship their frozen embryos
(16:31):
to a surrogate in one of these homes to have
their child, and then the child has flown back to
China for them, like they never even have to come here.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I hadn't even heard about it.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And that is that is yeah, and that's that is
Orange County.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
These and I mean in the area around like Irvine, California,
which is like heavily Asian, and in fact.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You see Irvine, I mean I have friends there.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's they their reports are like this is just a
completely one percent basically Chinese neat nationalists national school. It's
like the University of China in Irvine. I mean, you know,
you'd think, okay, we're here. Really, if it's going to
be any their country, it should be Mexico, like make
it the University of Mexico. But the Chinese have gained
(17:15):
the system. They're very smart, like we left these giant
holes and they're just coming through in in trucks loaded
with with their kids and we're letting and we're paying
for it, like we're paying to educate their children.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
My son did not get into u C. L A.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, I mean, look at what happened to Aunt Becky
from Full House, you know, ended up doing prison time
because I'm a huge am Becky fan. As a kid,
just trying to get you know, little Skylar Taylor or
whatever her daughter's name is.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Into us C. So USC, I think it was us C.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, yeah, USC, and like pretended she can row crew,
which that girl, I mean maybe she could have been
a Coxon, but like she was not.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know, that's so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I know I dated a crew girl. I know crew girls.
Let me tell you that girl is not a crew girl.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Like they yeah, they'll yeah, they'll bench you.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
It will bench you. Yeah, you gotta be into that
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So the funny thing about sorry, but the funniest thing
about USC is that, again you have this hyper competitive
environment around the University of Southern California, which is like
UCLA now has an acceptance rate of literally like eight
or seven percent, which you know, when I was going
(18:33):
to school, those were like unheard of numbers that was
like Caltech numbers like eight percent. But when I was
but when I was applying, USC had like forty percent acceptance,
like UCLA. These were not super competitive schools to get
into these schools.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
What I've had to tell to all the my dad's generation,
my dad was a Wall Street guy. Uh, my dad's
generation of finance bros. Because they're just like, oh, like
when I came out, you know, my dad went to
Harvard Busins School. He's like, when I came out of school,
I had offers for every bank on the street, and
like we were having two Martini lunchers and like everything
was great because you weren't competing against Mumbai and Shanghai.
(19:08):
My man, Like I said, different world out there.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Now, that's right. We're we're made to compete.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Our kids are made to compete with kids from other countries.
Like before they've even got out of high school, they're
competing with the children of the ritually, yes, in India
and China and all around the world. And then they're
competing with those kids again for jobs and those kids
throughout their lives.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And diversity system is is it's a national resource. And
you'll notice that with very few exceptions, like yeah, Oxford.
You know, some people if they want to be like
really kind of euro fancy, you'll be like I'm going
through like Seance po or whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Right, they'll go. Very few Americans go to overseas universities.
I mean it's a it's like a less than one
percent number. People just don't do this.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But yet in our country, it's the biggest countries in
the world, and countries from all over the world are
just I'm so glad Trump is on this, and i
think it's a big deal. I don't think it's a
small thing. I think it goes to US competitiveness and
everything else. Kind of just one more thought for you.
Did you see that the Harvard is the school professor
who was paid a million dollars a year was an
(20:15):
expert in honesty and was fired by Harvard for dishonesty.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
That just happened.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That's so perfect.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
It's like my favorite Harvard story ever.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I'm like, this overpaid phony whose expertise is dishonesty or
honesty or whatever, and she's fired for faking results in
the studies that prove her expertise. And this is this
is all Claudine Gay who was the former Harvard president.
This person she's the president of Harvard, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I mean she's yeah, she was fired, but she wasn't
actually fired. She was like just he just switched John
get close to a million a year.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
They basically in the CIA, we call it getting sent
to the archives, Like they don't want to fire you,
but they send you somewhere where you can't do any damage,
you know, and you keep getting your right back.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
She got sent to the archives.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yes, so Harvard's off the list, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, Harvard's off the list. PEG. Great to have you.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I hope come back soon. We got to get you
on Clay and Buck radio sometime. When you want loveash
the Chinese communists and how they're infiltrating and destroying our country.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
I think that would be a good one. So what
do you say?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
All Right, I love Chinese food. Okay, I'm not all bad?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Look good is great?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
A lot of great A lot of some people are
saying a lot of a lot of you know, a
lot of great people. But yeah, totally I'm with you
on that. So go buy Domestic. When did domestic extreamists
come out?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It came out let's see. June twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh okay, recent so Go buy Domestic Extreamist, everybody and
Peachee thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Thanks so much,
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Is Michelle Obama the most overrated person of our lifetime?
To answer this question that the masters are clamoring for
answers too, we are joined for the first time by
Peachey Canaan. She is an author and a commentator and
author of the book Domestic Extremist, which I would highly
recommend to all of you and is in the background
for those of you watching us on Twitter. Peachee, I'll
(00:41):
hand this question off to you. I'm sure you've seen
some of Michelle's podcast entries so far, and wow, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
A that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But I would say she's probably second to her illustrious husband.
It must run in the run in their family. But yeah,
her her podcast is really funny. I think there was.
It's very obviously. I think what happened there after the
November election, all the like you know, Pods of America
bros were like, we need podcasts, we need a better
we need better messengers Trump one because of Rogan and
(01:15):
all these bro podcasts. What can we do to reclaim
podcasting for the Democrats, and like, who was the first
person they called Michelle Obama because America is dying to
hear from her, and uh yeah, her and her weird
brother who looks like a looks like a drag queen
out of his makeup, doesn't he Like, they're just so
(01:37):
very weird pair.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I don't know, no one's watching this right, Like, are
you watching this? Like?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Does anyone wanting I see some of the clips. I
will tell you. As I was talking with this on radio,
my wife, who is always up on the latest media
eyed stuff because she used to work at Fox News,
she sent me that Michelle Obama's podcast on you know YouTube.
You can see the views it has in three or
four episodes. The audience has gone from I think a
couple hundred thousand down to it's cut in half, which
(02:03):
is not what you would expect for a former First lady,
with the entire media not only rooting for her but
telling you that she is simultaneously a saint genius and
the greatest person I know. I don't want to fight
with you, Peach, but I'll say this with Barack Obama,
if you criticized him, you were racist. With uh. With
Michelle Obama, if you criticized her, you were you were
(02:26):
actually hitler, and that's that's I think those were the rules,
right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I think it's incredible hubris of these first ladies. I
think Hillary Clinton is another example of this, who think
that because their husbands won, because they had some political
flare or whatever, that they also won something like they
also were awarded best Personality of the Year or whatever
it is, and they go on to have these media
(02:52):
careers and I'm not really sure what and they're just
completely propped up by I don't know. I mean, she
did sell a lot of books, Okay, she did have
these big book tours and sell million millions of books supposedly,
although I would go to Costco and there'd be a
huge stack of Michelle Obama books, you know, discounted for
like four ninety nine inah.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So this is so funny to me because I've thought
about this many times because I've been in people's homes
and one of the things that you can tell about somebody, right, well, rather,
all you really need to do to know a lot
about a person is first of all, do they have
any books in their home? And then second of all,
when you look at the books they have, are these
books that are for reading or books that are for showing?
(03:30):
And I think Michelle Obama books are books that people have,
even if it's not a coffee table book, they haven't
like on or near the coffee table or like prominent
on the shelf because it's a you know, hey, look
at me. I think I would guess, And there's no
way of ever knowing because people people all lie about how.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Much they read.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
They certainly lie about what books they've read, what books
they read, what books they've read. Sorry, but the truth
to me is that Michelle Obama books, of the people
who bought them, I would guess less than ten percent
actually read the book in any meaning.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Right, it's right.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But if you have the book and someone sees it
in your house, they know you're not racists. Yeah, it's
it's right next to white fragility, you know, and maybe
like an Ebram X Candy children's book or whatever, and
you know whatever those little he was making, like anti
anti racist baby board books.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You remember, it's all this whole.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm not a racist because I have the correct media,
the correct media diet, so I'm allowed.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
To be white My favorite coffee shop when I lived
in New York that was near me was a place
called Ground Central, and it was exactly I mean it was.
You could look at the entire this was in Manhattan.
Tire staff clearly came in from like transitioning parts of Brooklyn, right.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
They were all white.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
They're all coming in from like you know, their bedsty,
you know share uh and you know they they've stopped
like pickling their own beats or whatever for a minute
to come here. Now, I will say the coffee, the
coffee was amazing. But but and that's why I had
to keep going there reading shelf that they had. I
used to take photos of this because I was it
was so immaculately curated to show everybody what the people
(05:16):
who worked in this store wanted people to believe they're about.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It was all that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It was Ibra Mix, Kendy, Michelle Obama, Tana Hesse Coates.
It was like like not a they never I never once,
with the exception of Robin DiAngelo. And I mean this,
And I got my coffee there every day. Saw on
their reading shelf, which was like prominently displayed a book
written by a white person. Not allowed, not not Okay, no,
that's so anyway, So you buy a Michelle Obama book
(05:42):
and it's it's like, you get it all done.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You don't even have to have the whole shelf. You
just show everybody who you are.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Actually that I think the Harvard English Literature curriculum probably
matches the Starbucks that that that your coffee shops.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, I'm sure recommended booklets.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I can't even imagine. When I went to AMers twenty
twenty something years ago. Now it was our Yeah, it
was already insane. And I try to tell people stories
and they're like, there's no way it was that crazy.
I'm like, no, no, I promise it was just as crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I was gonna say Trump is Hitler, Bush's Hitler, and
like we're fascist. Flag burning after nine to eleven that
happened on my campus, Like yeah, it was real.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Oh yeah, and that was a real thing. I was there.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean, obviously not burning the flags. They had cops there,
classic lib thing. They had to make sure the cops
were there because they knew that if they just did
this people would punch them, so they had the cops
there to defend them. Burning the American flag after nine
to eleven because they want to stick it to the patriarchy.
I'm like, except for these cops who are dudes with
guns that you're begging to protect you, let's come back
(06:43):
you mentioned Harvard. I actually want to dive into this
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going after Harvard, which is I love and I'd say
(08:08):
these people do It's not just Harvard. I'd love it
if you did it to AMers too, and I went there.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I think this is fantastic. Why do you think it's fantastic.
I'm guessing you at least feel that way about it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, I love it. I you know, I went to
the Ivy League.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I didn't didn't go to Harvard. But I think they
should all, you know, burn them all down at this.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Point, and not just Cornell, because if you went to Cornell,
I think I have to make fun, okay, because I
love I love the Cornell people who are always like, well,
I went to an Ivy League school, and it's just
like if you say that and not the name, it's
usually Cornell.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm not thinking I don't want to be docs, but
I yeah, I did. I did.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I did not go to Cornell or Harvard. You can
use you know, keep guessing, but I won't tell you.
But anyway, they're all like this, not just Harvard. The
ucs here in California are like this. Also with the numbers.
I just wrote an article about this at tom Clint
Klingenstein dot com called poisoned IVYS, which is about how,
(09:02):
you know, the great replacement or whatever has already been
completed at many of these elite institutions were large numbers
of the student body is no longer American, and not
even like you know, undocumented whatever American like people here,
like you know, the children of illegals, the dreamers, not
even them.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
People who literally arrive in this.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Country for the first day of school can kind of
barely speak English from you know, the Chinese mainland and.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
The Gulf States, and you know, rich, rich people from
around the world are coming into these schools and what
is it a thirty percent including grad school at Harvard,
and I think similarly at UCLA. Okay, and like in
terms of UCLA, like the state schools, these are schools
that we pay for, like Californians pay for these schools.
We fund these state schools UCLA, Berkeley, UC San Diego.
(09:56):
These were schools.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Built your tax dollars from your property taxes, your income
taxes in California, which you're insane, is the reason that
UCLA et cetera exists.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Right, We pay for them to educate California kids. That's
the goal of these schools, just like the University of
Texas is for largely kids in Texas. Right, these state
schools should be educating majority of the kids in California.
And then there's out of state kids too who go like, yes,
from another state, you should be Yes, you're allowed in
to U.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
See you pay high way harder tuition.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Fine, you want to put a few international kids who
are like some kind of spectacular nerds or whatever, you know,
super nerds, you know, into MIT whatever. Great, But in
these huge numbers, what it's done is made these schools
just honestly so difficult to get into. On top of
just the regular American you know, DEI, affirmative action filters,
(10:53):
like you have all of this. So if you're just like,
let's say, a very high achieving, you know, straight white
kid who isn't gay or trans or queer or whatever
and has a very high GPA and does great on
the SATs and stuff, he's literally got no shot unless
he's a superstar varsity athlete or has some other extraordinary
(11:14):
you know, capability in him. There's just no shot. Ucla
was my safety school, Okay. When I went to college,
Ucla was like beneath me, Like I was like I
would never have been caught dead.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Like, let's just like now it.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Had because it had like a fifty sixty seventy percent acceptance, right,
you know, I wanted to go to like a fancy
private school in the East Coast. Now UCLA is eight
percent acceptance, Okay, eight percent. That's insane to me. Yeah,
and then all the spots, So how many spots are
actually in each freshman class for kids like kids like
(11:49):
my son California, you know, can't check any diversity boxes
high achieving, Like, how many spots in that class go
to kids like that?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Like one hundred spots? Like very small, They're just.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Being taken up by so many of these foreign students
who are paying yes, full price, and so seeing it
happen at Harvard is thrilling. And they meanwhile, half of
them are what Chinese CCP spies.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well, this is the other.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
So there's I break this down peach into there's the
America first component of this, which I think that is
very apt for this aspect of it in California couldn't
be any more clear. I mean state schools. You're you're
educating foreign kids in our state schools in huge numbers, right,
you know, you want to talk about like diversity. I'm
a little bit okay with the idea of a small
(12:35):
percentage of the student body comes from other countries, because
that is kind of interesting. But I want it to
be I want it to be five percent, maybe ten percent,
max max mit thirty percent. You Penn thirty percent, Harvard
thirty foreign kids. I think Colombia is more like fifty percent.
(12:56):
I mean these schools.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Columbia is really weird.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, Columbia is super high. These schools are just full
of kids from all over the world. And by the way,
this whole notion of like oh well, like we're taking
the best of the best, full crap. They can't based
on what and this this idea that we shouldn't advantage.
So there's the America first components you would agree on.
But what you touched on about this as well is
(13:19):
is the the CCP. I mean, you look at MIT,
you look at where the government funding is in some
of these schools. Critically the schools you actually have to
be able to do something to go, which is kind
of to their to their credit, right, Like, you don't
go to cal Tech because Daddy donated the you know,
the the lounge room for the crew team, right, Like,
if you go to cal Tech, my chances are you
can do some math. I would assume, uh, same thing
(13:40):
with mi T Like if you go to these places,
there's a there's a skill set that but they also
do things like figure out how to do missile technology
and they also work on drones. And the university technology
centers are infiltrated by the CCP and other places all
the time. We're supposed to think that they're really good
(14:01):
at keeping the stuff out of the hands of foreign students.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
But why is the CCP so obsessed with sending their
kids here? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I think it's obvious. What's happening there exploiting all these.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Loopholes and their children are these you know rich the
rich children of you know, the Chinese elite. But when
they come here, they're just another diversity quota box that
they've been able to check off. Oh, a student of
Asian descent, a foreign student, and so that makes the
school feel good, look good. Look at our numbers they
(14:31):
love to put in the brochure, over fifty percent you know,
minority whatever students. These children are not minorities in China.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
No Chinese person is a minority, like in the world,
like chin Chinese are like what a third of the world, Like,
they're not minorities.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Okay, yeah, they're Chinese are the least minority people on
a global scale, right in existence?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Right, they don't need our schools like, they do not
need our schools. They have plenty of schools. Why are
they so interested in sending it here? Is it for
the prestige of Harvard? Okay, they can go and brag
if their kid is at the American university? Is it
so their children can then have anchor babies and they
can all then now the whole family gets a passport.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
This is what I tell access to the United States.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Okay, well you see this in California. And I've been
using this argument for years because of people it's always
like what about the dreamers, and like you know, uh,
you know, a little so and so just came across
the border. He's going to start the next school. I'm like, okay,
this is on the birthright citizenship issue a whole. On
a second, in California, they have hotels. I know you
know this, but for the audience, they have hotels. We're Chinese,
(15:35):
and it's overwhelmingly Chinese who do this. Chinese show up,
give birth, go back to China, and then come back
when they're eighteen with a US passport in hand, go
to UCLA or USC or whatever with their with their
American citizenship, even though they are fully Chinese, and then
they sponsor their whole family to come over here and we're.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
H and they pay and then they pay in state tuition.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, yeah, fourteen thousand a year versus like forty out
of state or foreign.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So it's a complete scam. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
In the in Orange, they have these houses and they're
just Chinese anchor baby mills, and they'll be a home
filled with like fifteen or twenty Chinese women and they
come here pregnant, they deliver and then go back and
they even have like a there's even a surrogacy industry
where Chinese couple in China will ship their frozen embryos
(16:31):
to a surrogate in one of these homes to have
their child, and then the child has flown back to
China for them, like they never even have to come here.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I hadn't even heard about it.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And that is that is yeah, and that's that is
Orange County.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
These and I mean in the area around like Irvine, California,
which is like heavily Asian, and in fact.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You see Irvine, I mean I have friends there.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's they their reports are like this is just a
completely one percent basically Chinese neat nationalists national school. It's
like the University of China in Irvine. I mean, you know,
you'd think, okay, we're here. Really, if it's going to
be any their country, it should be Mexico, like make
it the University of Mexico. But the Chinese have gained
(17:15):
the system. They're very smart, like we left these giant
holes and they're just coming through in in trucks loaded
with with their kids and we're letting and we're paying
for it, like we're paying to educate their children.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
My son did not get into u C. L A.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, I mean, look at what happened to Aunt Becky
from Full House, you know, ended up doing prison time
because I'm a huge am Becky fan. As a kid,
just trying to get you know, little Skylar Taylor or
whatever her daughter's name is.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Into us C. So USC, I think it was us C.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, yeah, USC, and like pretended she can row crew,
which that girl, I mean maybe she could have been
a Coxon, but like she was not.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know, that's so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I know I dated a crew girl. I know crew girls.
Let me tell you that girl is not a crew girl.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Like they yeah, they'll yeah, they'll bench you.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
It will bench you. Yeah, you gotta be into that
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So the funny thing about sorry, but the funniest thing
about USC is that, again you have this hyper competitive
environment around the University of Southern California, which is like
UCLA now has an acceptance rate of literally like eight
or seven percent, which you know, when I was going
(18:33):
to school, those were like unheard of numbers that was
like Caltech numbers like eight percent. But when I was
but when I was applying, USC had like forty percent acceptance,
like UCLA. These were not super competitive schools to get
into these schools.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
What I've had to tell to all the my dad's generation,
my dad was a Wall Street guy. Uh, my dad's
generation of finance bros. Because they're just like, oh, like
when I came out, you know, my dad went to
Harvard Busins School. He's like, when I came out of school,
I had offers for every bank on the street, and
like we were having two Martini lunchers and like everything
was great because you weren't competing against Mumbai and Shanghai.
(19:08):
My man, Like I said, different world out there.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Now, that's right. We're we're made to compete.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Our kids are made to compete with kids from other countries.
Like before they've even got out of high school, they're
competing with the children of the ritually, yes, in India
and China and all around the world. And then they're
competing with those kids again for jobs and those kids
throughout their lives.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And diversity system is is it's a national resource. And
you'll notice that with very few exceptions, like yeah, Oxford.
You know, some people if they want to be like
really kind of euro fancy, you'll be like I'm going
through like Seance po or whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Right, they'll go. Very few Americans go to overseas universities.
I mean it's a it's like a less than one
percent number. People just don't do this.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But yet in our country, it's the biggest countries in
the world, and countries from all over the world are
just I'm so glad Trump is on this, and i
think it's a big deal. I don't think it's a
small thing. I think it goes to US competitiveness and
everything else. Kind of just one more thought for you.
Did you see that the Harvard is the school professor
who was paid a million dollars a year was an
(20:15):
expert in honesty and was fired by Harvard for dishonesty.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
That just happened.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That's so perfect.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
It's like my favorite Harvard story ever.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I'm like, this overpaid phony whose expertise is dishonesty or
honesty or whatever, and she's fired for faking results in
the studies that prove her expertise. And this is this
is all Claudine Gay who was the former Harvard president.
This person she's the president of Harvard, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I mean she's yeah, she was fired, but she wasn't
actually fired. She was like just he just switched John
get close to a million a year.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
They basically in the CIA, we call it getting sent
to the archives, Like they don't want to fire you,
but they send you somewhere where you can't do any damage,
you know, and you keep getting your right back.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
She got sent to the archives.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yes, so Harvard's off the list, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, Harvard's off the list. PEG. Great to have you.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I hope come back soon. We got to get you
on Clay and Buck radio sometime. When you want loveash
the Chinese communists and how they're infiltrating and destroying our country.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
I think that would be a good one. So what
do you say?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
All Right, I love Chinese food. Okay, I'm not all bad?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Look good is great?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
A lot of great A lot of some people are
saying a lot of a lot of you know, a
lot of great people. But yeah, totally I'm with you
on that. So go buy Domestic. When did domestic extreamists
come out?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It came out let's see. June twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh okay, recent so Go buy Domestic Extreamist, everybody and
Peachee thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Thanks so much,
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