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October 24, 2025 • 16 mins

Buck reacts to the design of the Obama Presidential Library, calling it one of the ugliest public buildings in recent memory and comparing it to the Obama presidency itself—grand, expensive, and underwhelming. He contrasts the outrage over Trump’s planned White House ballroom renovation with the long history of presidents making updates to the White House. Buck also highlights Trump’s plans for the addition, the media’s reaction, and a quick dive into historical White House renovations.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, let make
sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app
or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is the Obama
Presidential Library and Museum the ugliest building any of us
have seen in a very long time? Why does the

(00:32):
Obama Presidential Library already look like a cross between the
Death Star and a KGB interrogation center from the nineteen seventies.
What the heck is going on? And also why is
it so expensive? These are all fair questions. You would

(00:54):
think that Obama, because he's supposed to be the most
amazing president of all presidents of all time. You might
think to yourself, Hold on a second, isn't he supposed
to have the best of the best working on this project.
Isn't he supposed to be Well, here is what President
Trump has to say about Obama's library, the pictures of

(01:15):
the architecture, and yeah, I did.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
It's not too pretty, you know, but it's it's slums.
It's stopped. They read. Out of money means building a
library slash museum. You know, you call some museums and
usually they call they call it library and museum.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Let's the official name and.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
This stuck, and he wanted only women in DEEI to
build it. You know, that's what they got.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Now. Of course, there is a lot of pushback on
this because people are saying, well, hold on a second,
look what Trump is doing with the White House. We'll
get to that first of all, the Obama Presidential Library,
I think is very fitting because it is both grandiose,

(02:07):
wildly overpriced, and and depressing all at the same time.
So in a sense, it's a bit like the Obama presidency.
In fact, yes, that is the Obama presidency really full
of itself, way too much money spent, and at the
end of the day we're all left being sad. So

(02:28):
maybe I should just think of this as it's the
perfect way. It's a perfect way to depict his presidency.
But you would think it would not be so awful.
It's going to cost seven hundred million dollars. Seven hundred
million dollars. That's oh, I'm sorry, eight hundred and fifty

(02:50):
million dollars. Total cost eight hundred and fifty million dollars construction alone,
seven hundred million dollars. Initially it was supposed to be
three hundred million dollars. This is perfect it's like the Cleindra.
Remember that. It's like the cylinder of presidential libraries. Just
a very big, expensive disaster with a terrible final And

(03:12):
what are they even what are they even saying about this?
I'm wondering. Here we go the Barack Obama Presidential Center.
This is on Wikipedia, so you know, communist propaganda. It's
in Chicago, commemorates Barack Obama, YadA YadA Center includes the
Presidential Library, National Archives and Records Administration. The Obama board

(03:32):
includes all these different people. Okay, director of the museum.
Who is the I'm trying to find. The planning is
on University of Chicago proposal Barack Obama Foundation, mayor men
mayor Rama manual announced foundation blah blah. I'm going through
this design committee. Members of the committee included Don Gummer,

(03:58):
the husband of actress Mery Meryl streep Ed Schlossberg, husband
of Caroline Kennedy, Chicago radio station owner and Democrat financier,
architectural Digest magazine editor. And yeah, it's horrible. Bottom line,
it's the ugliest thing I've ever seen that's supposed to

(04:20):
be beautiful and timeless. So for a building at least,
I mean this thing makes the jed or Hoover building
in DC look inspirational, makes it look like a Gothic
cathedral in like central France, or in like Toulouse or
Provence or something. So yeah, I guess this is what
we should expect. Obama a lot of a lot of

(04:45):
people talking about how great everything is, and then the
actual product, the end result, is very lackluster. And Trump
knows that this is the case, and also is just
trying too hard think about this, like why can't you
make a building that people would look at and say,
oh wow, that's really really beautiful or even just really

(05:05):
innovative or interesting. Instead they try to just do something
that's so different that it just looks really ugly. And
I think that it's important to have some kind of
esthetics that we appeal to, aspire to in society. It's
not a total, a total nothing, right, it's actually meaningful.

(05:26):
I believe it's meaningful that we have buildings that are beautiful. Look,
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renot project. Oh my gosh, Trump is trying to make
White House ballrooms great again. You know what, what is
the big deal? Why do they have to freak out
so much about everything? That's a That's a very good question,

(06:54):
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Like?

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Why can't they just because they hate Trump so much?
That's really it. There's nothing beyond in many of these cases,
nothing beyond. Some people are saying nothing beyond the fact
that they hate Trump, so they have to oppose Trump.
And even if that makes them look silly, even if
that makes them look foolish, they don't care. But look

(07:16):
the White House Ballroom edition. I've seen. I've seen what
it looks like or what it's going to look like.
I think it's gonna be quite nice.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
An interior shot of the ballroom. I think there'll be
nothing like it. And it's being paid for one hundred
percent by me and some friends of mine donors to it.
The government's paying absolutely nothing. We're also working with the
military unit because they want to make sure everything's perfect,
and the military is very much involved in this. They
want to make sure everything is absolutely beautiful. You can

(07:47):
see the kind of interiors that we're talking about. That's
an interior of the ballroom, and it's the highest level,
and you see it goes beautifully with the White House.
I mean, the mix is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
It's gona be quite nice. But the reporters are all
over Trump, and eventually what you see is Trump has
just had enough of this crap. You know, he's just
sick of it. The ballroom is going to be really cool.
I think it'll be a great think about it. The
White House will have for high level events in a

(08:19):
true event space makes a lot of sense, doesn't it.
And they'll be able to control security and everything for
that space. So it's I think it's a very good idea.
Trump has been talking about it for a long time.
And also we can get into some of this, but
and I will get into this, there have been plenty

(08:40):
of adjustments made to White House's past, major adjustments in fact,
over the course of time. So this isn't some entirely
new thing. And the White House, of course, is going
to evolve. It's certainly evolved after eighteen twelve when the
British came along. We're very mean to our White House.
We had to make a new one. We haven't forgotten

(09:01):
about that Britain. You know, we told King George to
stuff it, and then the British showed up and were
bitter and they burned down our White House. Was not nice.
Not nice, some people are saying not nice. But yeah,
I think that the Trump addition is going to be great.
And it's also something that, yeah, we know future it's

(09:21):
privately funded, as He's already talked to this many times,
but we know that future White Houses will all include
Democrat administrations will be able to use this as well.
This is clearly not just for Trump's use. I think
that part of their hysteria around this relates to the
fact that they have truly convinced themselves that Trump with
their no Kings protest, Trump is trying to be in charge.

(09:44):
He's trying to be the big boss forever. That's not true. Look,
Trump is going to be eighty years old soon. Trump
is in his second term. He's going to want to
play golf and spend time with his grandchildren starting in
twenty twenty eight or twenty twenty nine rather, So that's
where this is all heading, and they just need to
calm down. But they can't calm down. I think part

(10:05):
of it is also that if they were to calm down,
if the anti Trump Libs were to calm down, they
might have to reckon with the fact that this is
a very successful Trump administration, that he's doing a great job,
that the country's doing really well, far better than it
was under Biden, and all of their rage and fear
and anger about Trump and trump Ism is misplaced. I'm

(10:28):
really delusional. It's more than misplaced. It's like they're in
some other alternate reality. But let's talk a little bit
here about White House renovation. I think little interesting history,
deep dive, we can do white house renovations past. I
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House renovations. Because they're so upset about the Trump White
House renovation. They're so angry about this. Well, hold on

(11:58):
a second. Let's take a look at what's going on
in the past. Teddy Roosevelt built the West Wing. Yes, indeed,
Teddy Roosevelt. In nineteen oh two, he commissioned architect Charles
McKim to renovate the White House, replace Victorian era conservatory

(12:18):
conservatories with the West Wing to separate family and staff areas.
The cost was sixty five thousand dollars which is apparent,
which is about two point five million dollars when adjusted
for inflation. So that's one. That's one big thing. Teddy
Roosevelt built the West Wing. Look at that a couple

(12:39):
million bucks. Taft h Well. Taft expanded the West Wing
in nineteen oh nine, and this included the creation of
the first Oval office. The current Oval office location and design,
though were established under Franklin Roosevelt in nineteen thirty four.
So there's a little bit of a two things coming

(13:01):
together there. Then we have in nineteen oh two, Theodore
Roosevelt began, like I said, east Wing construction East Terrace,
but it was expanded a lot in nineteen forty two
under Franklin D. Roosevelt to house wartime offices and conceal
an underground bunker. So there you go, a wartime thing.

(13:27):
And the indoor pool was added by FDR in nineteen
thirty three, funded by private donations for his polio therapy.
But it was a separate project from the East Wing expansion.
So there's that. And then President Harry Truman from nineteen
forty eight to nineteen fifty two saw a major renovation.

(13:47):
People are saying that this was a gut of the
White House. This was true. Actually he did do this.
Five point seven million dollars sixty million dollars today spent
by Congress because the building had become unsaved. So a major,
major reno necessary, but sixty million dollars of your tax
dollars not privately funded. In nineteen sixty nine, President Richard

(14:12):
Nixon had a one lane bowling alley installed. Private donations
funded that, which replaced a two lane alley that was
put in the Truman era. Then everyone's talking about the
Obama the Obama basketball court. That's a little bit of
a They just added lines on the tennis court and

(14:33):
a hoop, so it wasn't really there was already a
tennis court there, so it wasn't really a you know,
like a full basketball court edition. But I do remember
reading some I think it was a vanity fair piece
and was trying to make Obama seem like he was
so good at basketball. It's pretty funny how competitive he
was with everybody who would show up, like I don't
think anyone's going to try to dunk on the president,

(14:53):
you know, dunk on the president's head, but stuff like
that would happen. And now Trump is building this ballroom.
There are these claims about Obama spending, Obama having a
project that was like three one hundred million dollars or
something of the White House, apparently C reported on that.
I've seen that report, but then I tried to look
for an actual record of it, try to fact check it,

(15:16):
and there doesn't seem to be a record of that spending.
There was some Obama expenditures for the White House, you know,
I think it was like twelve million dollars a year
to run it, but nothing in the three hundred million
dollar range for the White House renovation under Obama, at
least that I could find. By the way, if I'm wrong,
the send me the data on how that is incorrect,

(15:36):
because I definitely want to know. But yeah, so there
you go a history of White House renova. And like
I said, in the sense, the biggest renovation was free
from the British burning down that people's house was very
mean of them. We did we did not appreciate that
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