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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, welcome to the
Buck Brief. On this episode, our friend Orrin McIntyre is
back to talk about everything going on in the GOP
primary and the looming general election, plus you know, America,
the border, whatever else we get into with the time
(00:32):
we have. He's the host of the orn McIntyre show
at the Blaze or in is it let me start
with some of the high level or you know, thirty
thousand foot stuff. Is this primary already over or do
you still think that we could see some things change.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It does feel like it's already over. I mean, in
some ways these debates feel like we're just listening in
on the kids table. Trump's ahead by such a wide
margin in pretty much every area in most states, it's
really going to be some kind of catastrophe needs to
occur for any of these people to kind of be relevant.
Of course, the fact that the president is under indictment
(01:11):
and does have or the former president rather does have
all of these possible legal complications against him. That's kind
of the reason it seems like this continues to go on.
But I don't think that anyone's gonna win in the
primary over him unless he's in some way restricted running
a full campaign.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Now, what do you think about the others who are
at least still in the mix year after the most
recent debate in Tuscaloosa, Haley, Christie and DeSantis? Have they
been helping themselves recently? Do you think that they're building
out their brands? Like? What what do you think? How
would you assess each one of the next Oh, I'm
(01:50):
sorry and Ramaswami of the next tier of canad Well,
you know what, we can forget Christie's not, He's probably not.
We're good forget Christy Fine, Hailey, Ramaswamy, de Santis. What's
your take on where they are in this whole situation?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, obviously DeSantis was kind of the front runner for
non Trump candidates, and the big storyor of this whole
campaign has really been the failure of him to catch
any traction, the fact that he was tied with Ramaswami
at one point now he's more or less tied with Haley,
losing to both those candidates at different times. I mean,
he should have far and away been the clear front
(02:25):
runner besides Trump throughout this whole thing, and instead he
seems to have kind of flailed in all of these situations.
I think he still looks good in a decent number
of answers. I think he's still the most put together
guy in the best second option after Trump, but it
does feel like that's just he never really caught fire,
(02:45):
and this could end up damaging his ambitions if he
ends up not taking this particular campaign. With Haley, obviously,
she's in this weird scenario where it feels like she's
running for the establishment or the neo conservative vote. She's
very unlikable with most of the base, but she still
has a lot of the institutional support, even when it
(03:07):
comes to some Democrats. She's every New York Times columnist
favorite goop candidate at this point. And then Ramaswami, he
feels like he's just doing his best Trump impression, which
is pretty good on the stage. It gets him a
lot of kind of fiery debate moments, but he's also
he doesn't have the ability to kind of play it
off and be as playful when he's doing the insults
(03:28):
and going hard after people the way that Trump did,
so he doesn't have that endearing quality, and I think
that does hurt him a little bit, even though he's
saying a lot of the right thing. Now.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
If if you had to pick one idea, policy idea
that has emerged from the honestly any of the recent debates,
but you know, the most recent one, I think is
the only when you or I can probably remember in
any detail. But was there anything that came up where
you said, we need that on the national stage to
(03:58):
be you know, the way forward, whether it's Trump or
anybody else who's carrying that mantle, like, whether it's on
the border or crime or the economy. Was there anything
you heard you said that needs to be something that
we all get behind going forward other than the obvious, right,
I mean, something that's new, something that was kind of
a breakthrough idea.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I don't think there's anything that completely shook the stage,
but I do think there were a couple of highlights. First,
it was nice to hear DeSantis talk about forcing the
colleges to back their loans, their student loans. I think
that's a good message. A lot of people want to
just say, well, force all these kids to pay their
student loans. No matter what, and yeah, I get it,
I understand kind of that approach. I don't want to
(04:39):
be paying student loans for these people either, but we
need to hold the university's accountable. These are people who
have built the students for millions and millions of dollars
and they really should be the ones that end up
paying for this if anybody does. So that was a
really nice thing to hear from him. It was nice
also to hear both him and Ramaswami talking about the
importance of internet anonymity against Hayley. They both went after
(05:03):
her during the debate on that issue. That was very
nice to see. And then it was very nice to
see the VEK being willing to talk about replacement level
migration and the role it plays in the Democrats plan.
That's a taboo subject, is something a lot of people
won't touch, and the VEK went right at it during
the debate. So I think that all of those were promising.
(05:24):
None of those are ground shaking policy, you know, prescriptions
right away, but it was nice to see them come up,
even though this isn't maybe the most important debate, given
you know the fact that Trump is leading as far
out as he is.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Do you think Trump is even going to debate once
between now and the general election day, meeting against the
Republican or a Democrat. Do you think that he's just
going to let people, you know, vote for him and
he's going to run the campaigns as he sees fit
without showing up to any actual debates, whether against the Republican,
a Republican, or a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I think he's certainly not going to show up to
any Republican debates, and really tactically there's no reason for
him too. He's so far ahead that the only thing
he can do is grant legitimacy to the other people
running by showing up. He's just lapping the competition without
having to even be in the room. So there's really
no reason tactically again for him to do that. People
might want him to do so on principle, might say
(06:20):
he owes it to the voters, but from a strategy viewpoint,
there's just no reason for him to do so. Once
it comes to the general election. Yeah, I think he
will do that if for no other reason that he shines,
especially if he's gonna if he could get on a
stage with Biden. I think in Biden's current state. It
would be pretty easy to look good in that situation.
(06:40):
So should that moment come, I think that he will.
But when it comes to the primary, no, there's no
reason for him to be in the room with anyone else.
At this point.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Let's dive into immigration, which came up during the debate.
But you know, I think most importantly well, I would
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All right, urn the number that we're seeing these days,
(08:13):
it's going to be close to eight million illegals entering
the country under Biden in his first term, if it's
not already eight million, which it might be if you
add up the godaways eight million people. That is more
than the population of many states, and it's more than
the Dakota is it's more than a lot of states
and states in New England, and I mean a lot
(08:34):
of states. When is the GOP you think, going to
approach this issue with real urgency?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Never? And that's a huge problem. That tells you something
about the GOP that there's a really serious issue happening
on the American border, of course, with security and everything else.
But what the Democratic Party knows is that it's permanently
changing the demographic makeup of the United States in a
way that it secures its electoral majority. They are importing,
(09:03):
like you said, basically a blue state just by itself
during the Biden presidency, and that's going to shift things.
They know that, yes, you know, maybe not all of
these immigrants will vote monolithically forever. We have seen Hispanics
move towards the GOP in places like Florida over time,
which is a good thing. But they know that for
generations they're going to have an electoral advantage by opening
(09:26):
the borders up the way that they are. That should
be an existential crisis for an opposing political party. If
the GOP was a serious opposition party, it would recognize
this as a complete devastating issue when it comes to
their ability to win elections. But they're not addressing it seriously,
and I don't know that they ever will. But we
desperately need someone too, because, like you said, this is
(09:48):
the issue. If you can't seal this border, if you
can't stop this invasion, then you can't win elections, and
that means that you simply have no voice inside what
is supposed to be a democratic republic.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And I just wonder, you know how long we're going
to continue to hear that we're going to secure the border,
whether you know, just Santis talks about it, talks about it.
Now people point out Trump was certainly much better than
Biden on the border, but it wasn't an entirely secure border.
There was more wall, more things to be done. Now
for the Trump voters that I know, they say, right exactly,
that's why he needs four more You're okay, well, we
(10:23):
can discuss that further. But it's more than just any
one thing, right, I mean, and I would argue the
biggest thing is that you need to change the incentive
structure for people coming here illegally, meaning that they don't
think they're going to get to stay if they come illegally,
which means you turn them back or you deport them.
(10:43):
Does anyone in the GOP, I mean, Trump says he's
going to be mass deportations to DeSantis, I think is there.
But what about the members of Congress. You know, it
strikes me that they're all going to just get Chamber
of Commerce money and you know, decide the donor class
likes the cheap labor. I worry that the GOP is
going to betray the base on this. I mean, not
like that would be the first time.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, yeah, no, pretty common occurrence there. I think you're right. Unfortunately, look,
people talking a good game, like you said, Vivek was
talking about deputizing or allowing the different state law enforcement
agencies to enforce border law, immigration law, which would be great.
(11:25):
You had DeSantis talking about taxing remittances to places like Mexico,
which I think what'll be great. This should be an
all of the above type strategy move here right, everything
should be a full court press. But the question is
would Congressional Republicans actually doing any of this? And the
answer seems to be no, which is why I think
it's very critical for GOP governors actually to take the
(11:46):
lead on this. Guys like DeSantis should be taking the
lead in their own states to do as much as possible.
That's why I think that governorships are so critical right now,
even probably more than control of things like the national legislature,
because let's just be honest, the national GOP is so
corrupt they're not going to take action. We need action
(12:07):
directly from executives at state levels. A lot of people
are uncomfortable with that, I understand, but I think that's
what it's going to take to get this kind of
thing done.
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freedoms and liberties. All right, Uren, we've already seen so
that the head of the University of Pennsylvanian Ivy League
school says it's not a violation of the school's terms
of service or you know, sorry, not terms of service,
code of conduct, terms of service like an internet thing,
a code of conduct to call for the genocide of
the Jews, which I think a lot of people just
(14:03):
jaws hit the ground, is said, really, really, Now she's
walked that back. So no, of course, of course it would.
What has happened here, I mean, in terms of the
anti semitism on campuses, it seems like the left has
been almost caught surprised by how anti Semitics some parts
of the left are.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You know what I mean, I mean, they shouldn't be.
This is a natural progression of what's been happening on
campuses for a very long time. These decolonization type rhetoric
that's been going through, this neo Marxist rhetoric that's been
going through, has been targeting Western people, especially people of
European descent. They have been talking about the danger of whiteness,
(14:41):
how whites are going to destroy things, how the things
need to become less white for a very long time.
This kind of rhetoric has been engaged on college campuses
by professors, by activists for many years, and they just
happen to finally include Jewish people in this categorization. It's terrible.
(15:02):
Obviously they should not be allowed to speak about any
group this way, be it whites or Jewish people or
anyone else. But this is simply an extent the logic
they already had. And of course, when you're importing a
large number of people from areas of the world that
have been in conflict with Jewish people for a very
long time, you can't be surprised when this kind of
(15:22):
ideology shows up enforce at your universities. It's gross, but
I don't think anyone should really be surprised of them
and paying any attention to the way the logic has
been moving.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Do you think that anything's going to change. I mean,
one part of this is it feels to me like
they're doing public relations clean up for these presidents and
their universities. But I don't think they're really going to
crack down on this right. So if anything, maybe it
dies down on its own in time, depending on what happens,
you know, in the war with the Hamas that Israel
is waging. But I don't think that there's going to
(15:53):
be some big change in the mentality in these campuses,
or do you think the administrations are going to be
worried enough about losing donor dollars and just support from
a whole lot of folks, including very prominent members of
the Jewish American community, that they will do something, you
know what I mean, think that they clean up this
madness or they're just going to let it go.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
No, I think they're going to knuckle under to this.
I mean, I think that the the woke vanguard of
the left is beating the institutional mainstream left right now.
The main stream institutional left was the part that supported
Israel or had deference for Jewish people. That is not
the case with the new crop of the left. I
(16:34):
don't think that the same sympathies exist. I think that again,
the makeup, the demographic makeup of the more radical part
of the left is decidedly against the state of Israel,
and I think that they are the ones who have
won kind of the internacine conflicts inside the left over
and over again. I think being against the vanguard of
the left is a terrible place to be because the
(16:56):
revolution is ongoing, and I don't think that the university
presence they're going to stand up against it. They haven't
stood up against any other part of the revolution. I
don't think this is going to be different.
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Thanks for having me man.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Thank you
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, welcome to the
Buck Brief. On this episode, our friend Orrin McIntyre is
back to talk about everything going on in the GOP
primary and the looming general election, plus you know, America,
the border, whatever else we get into with the time
(00:32):
we have. He's the host of the orn McIntyre show
at the Blaze or in is it let me start
with some of the high level or you know, thirty
thousand foot stuff. Is this primary already over or do
you still think that we could see some things change.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It does feel like it's already over. I mean, in
some ways these debates feel like we're just listening in
on the kids table. Trump's ahead by such a wide
margin in pretty much every area in most states, it's
really going to be some kind of catastrophe needs to
occur for any of these people to kind of be relevant.
Of course, the fact that the president is under indictment
(01:11):
and does have or the former president rather does have
all of these possible legal complications against him. That's kind
of the reason it seems like this continues to go on.
But I don't think that anyone's gonna win in the
primary over him unless he's in some way restricted running
a full campaign.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Now, what do you think about the others who are
at least still in the mix year after the most
recent debate in Tuscaloosa, Haley, Christie and DeSantis? Have they
been helping themselves recently? Do you think that they're building
out their brands? Like? What what do you think? How
would you assess each one of the next Oh, I'm
(01:50):
sorry and Ramaswami of the next tier of canad Well,
you know what, we can forget Christie's not, He's probably not.
We're good forget Christy Fine, Hailey, Ramaswamy, de Santis. What's
your take on where they are in this whole situation?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, obviously DeSantis was kind of the front runner for
non Trump candidates, and the big storyor of this whole
campaign has really been the failure of him to catch
any traction, the fact that he was tied with Ramaswami
at one point now he's more or less tied with Haley,
losing to both those candidates at different times. I mean,
he should have far and away been the clear front
(02:25):
runner besides Trump throughout this whole thing, and instead he
seems to have kind of flailed in all of these situations.
I think he still looks good in a decent number
of answers. I think he's still the most put together
guy in the best second option after Trump, but it
does feel like that's just he never really caught fire,
(02:45):
and this could end up damaging his ambitions if he
ends up not taking this particular campaign. With Haley, obviously,
she's in this weird scenario where it feels like she's
running for the establishment or the neo conservative vote. She's
very unlikable with most of the base, but she still
has a lot of the institutional support, even when it
(03:07):
comes to some Democrats. She's every New York Times columnist
favorite goop candidate at this point. And then Ramaswami, he
feels like he's just doing his best Trump impression, which
is pretty good on the stage. It gets him a
lot of kind of fiery debate moments, but he's also
he doesn't have the ability to kind of play it
off and be as playful when he's doing the insults
(03:28):
and going hard after people the way that Trump did,
so he doesn't have that endearing quality, and I think
that does hurt him a little bit, even though he's
saying a lot of the right thing. Now.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
If if you had to pick one idea, policy idea
that has emerged from the honestly any of the recent debates,
but you know, the most recent one, I think is
the only when you or I can probably remember in
any detail. But was there anything that came up where
you said, we need that on the national stage to
(03:58):
be you know, the way forward, whether it's Trump or
anybody else who's carrying that mantle, like, whether it's on
the border or crime or the economy. Was there anything
you heard you said that needs to be something that
we all get behind going forward other than the obvious, right,
I mean, something that's new, something that was kind of
a breakthrough idea.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I don't think there's anything that completely shook the stage,
but I do think there were a couple of highlights. First,
it was nice to hear DeSantis talk about forcing the
colleges to back their loans, their student loans. I think
that's a good message. A lot of people want to
just say, well, force all these kids to pay their
student loans. No matter what, and yeah, I get it,
I understand kind of that approach. I don't want to
(04:39):
be paying student loans for these people either, but we
need to hold the university's accountable. These are people who
have built the students for millions and millions of dollars
and they really should be the ones that end up
paying for this if anybody does. So that was a
really nice thing to hear from him. It was nice
also to hear both him and Ramaswami talking about the
importance of internet anonymity against Hayley. They both went after
(05:03):
her during the debate on that issue. That was very
nice to see. And then it was very nice to
see the VEK being willing to talk about replacement level
migration and the role it plays in the Democrats plan.
That's a taboo subject, is something a lot of people
won't touch, and the VEK went right at it during
the debate. So I think that all of those were promising.
(05:24):
None of those are ground shaking policy, you know, prescriptions
right away, but it was nice to see them come up,
even though this isn't maybe the most important debate, given
you know the fact that Trump is leading as far
out as he is.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Do you think Trump is even going to debate once
between now and the general election day, meeting against the
Republican or a Democrat. Do you think that he's just
going to let people, you know, vote for him and
he's going to run the campaigns as he sees fit
without showing up to any actual debates, whether against the Republican,
a Republican, or a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I think he's certainly not going to show up to
any Republican debates, and really tactically there's no reason for
him too. He's so far ahead that the only thing
he can do is grant legitimacy to the other people
running by showing up. He's just lapping the competition without
having to even be in the room. So there's really
no reason tactically again for him to do that. People
might want him to do so on principle, might say
(06:20):
he owes it to the voters, but from a strategy viewpoint,
there's just no reason for him to do so. Once
it comes to the general election. Yeah, I think he
will do that if for no other reason that he shines,
especially if he's gonna if he could get on a
stage with Biden. I think in Biden's current state. It
would be pretty easy to look good in that situation.
(06:40):
So should that moment come, I think that he will.
But when it comes to the primary, no, there's no
reason for him to be in the room with anyone else.
At this point.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Let's dive into immigration, which came up during the debate.
But you know, I think most importantly well, I would
argue it's probably the biggest issue in the country right
now in terms of the long term impact and the
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(08:13):
it's going to be close to eight million illegals entering
the country under Biden in his first term, if it's
not already eight million, which it might be if you
add up the godaways eight million people. That is more
than the population of many states, and it's more than
the Dakota is it's more than a lot of states
and states in New England, and I mean a lot
(08:34):
of states. When is the GOP you think, going to
approach this issue with real urgency?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Never? And that's a huge problem. That tells you something
about the GOP that there's a really serious issue happening
on the American border, of course, with security and everything else.
But what the Democratic Party knows is that it's permanently
changing the demographic makeup of the United States in a
way that it secures its electoral majority. They are importing,
(09:03):
like you said, basically a blue state just by itself
during the Biden presidency, and that's going to shift things.
They know that, yes, you know, maybe not all of
these immigrants will vote monolithically forever. We have seen Hispanics
move towards the GOP in places like Florida over time,
which is a good thing. But they know that for
generations they're going to have an electoral advantage by opening
(09:26):
the borders up the way that they are. That should
be an existential crisis for an opposing political party. If
the GOP was a serious opposition party, it would recognize
this as a complete devastating issue when it comes to
their ability to win elections. But they're not addressing it seriously,
and I don't know that they ever will. But we
desperately need someone too, because, like you said, this is
(09:48):
the issue. If you can't seal this border, if you
can't stop this invasion, then you can't win elections, and
that means that you simply have no voice inside what
is supposed to be a democratic republic.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And I just wonder, you know how long we're going
to continue to hear that we're going to secure the border,
whether you know, just Santis talks about it, talks about it.
Now people point out Trump was certainly much better than
Biden on the border, but it wasn't an entirely secure border.
There was more wall, more things to be done. Now
for the Trump voters that I know, they say, right exactly,
that's why he needs four more You're okay, well, we
(10:23):
can discuss that further. But it's more than just any
one thing, right, I mean, and I would argue the
biggest thing is that you need to change the incentive
structure for people coming here illegally, meaning that they don't
think they're going to get to stay if they come illegally,
which means you turn them back or you deport them.
(10:43):
Does anyone in the GOP, I mean, Trump says he's
going to be mass deportations to DeSantis, I think is there.
But what about the members of Congress. You know, it
strikes me that they're all going to just get Chamber
of Commerce money and you know, decide the donor class
likes the cheap labor. I worry that the GOP is
going to betray the base on this. I mean, not
like that would be the first time.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, yeah, no, pretty common occurrence there. I think you're right. Unfortunately, look,
people talking a good game, like you said, Vivek was
talking about deputizing or allowing the different state law enforcement
agencies to enforce border law, immigration law, which would be great.
(11:25):
You had DeSantis talking about taxing remittances to places like Mexico,
which I think what'll be great. This should be an
all of the above type strategy move here right, everything
should be a full court press. But the question is
would Congressional Republicans actually doing any of this? And the
answer seems to be no, which is why I think
it's very critical for GOP governors actually to take the
(11:46):
lead on this. Guys like DeSantis should be taking the
lead in their own states to do as much as possible.
That's why I think that governorships are so critical right now,
even probably more than control of things like the national legislature,
because let's just be honest, the national GOP is so
corrupt they're not going to take action. We need action
(12:07):
directly from executives at state levels. A lot of people
are uncomfortable with that, I understand, but I think that's
what it's going to take to get this kind of
thing done.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
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to walk back what they said before Congress on the
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(13:42):
freedoms and liberties. All right, Uren, we've already seen so
that the head of the University of Pennsylvanian Ivy League
school says it's not a violation of the school's terms
of service or you know, sorry, not terms of service,
code of conduct, terms of service like an internet thing,
a code of conduct to call for the genocide of
the Jews, which I think a lot of people just
(14:03):
jaws hit the ground, is said, really, really, Now she's
walked that back. So no, of course, of course it would.
What has happened here, I mean, in terms of the
anti semitism on campuses, it seems like the left has
been almost caught surprised by how anti Semitics some parts
of the left are.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You know what I mean, I mean, they shouldn't be.
This is a natural progression of what's been happening on
campuses for a very long time. These decolonization type rhetoric
that's been going through, this neo Marxist rhetoric that's been
going through, has been targeting Western people, especially people of
European descent. They have been talking about the danger of whiteness,
(14:41):
how whites are going to destroy things, how the things
need to become less white for a very long time.
This kind of rhetoric has been engaged on college campuses
by professors, by activists for many years, and they just
happen to finally include Jewish people in this categorization. It's terrible.
(15:02):
Obviously they should not be allowed to speak about any
group this way, be it whites or Jewish people or
anyone else. But this is simply an extent the logic
they already had. And of course, when you're importing a
large number of people from areas of the world that
have been in conflict with Jewish people for a very
long time, you can't be surprised when this kind of
(15:22):
ideology shows up enforce at your universities. It's gross, but
I don't think anyone should really be surprised of them
and paying any attention to the way the logic has
been moving.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Do you think that anything's going to change. I mean,
one part of this is it feels to me like
they're doing public relations clean up for these presidents and
their universities. But I don't think they're really going to
crack down on this right. So if anything, maybe it
dies down on its own in time, depending on what happens,
you know, in the war with the Hamas that Israel
is waging. But I don't think that there's going to
(15:53):
be some big change in the mentality in these campuses,
or do you think the administrations are going to be
worried enough about losing donor dollars and just support from
a whole lot of folks, including very prominent members of
the Jewish American community, that they will do something, you
know what I mean, think that they clean up this
madness or they're just going to let it go.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
No, I think they're going to knuckle under to this.
I mean, I think that the the woke vanguard of
the left is beating the institutional mainstream left right now.
The main stream institutional left was the part that supported
Israel or had deference for Jewish people. That is not
the case with the new crop of the left. I
(16:34):
don't think that the same sympathies exist. I think that again,
the makeup, the demographic makeup of the more radical part
of the left is decidedly against the state of Israel,
and I think that they are the ones who have
won kind of the internacine conflicts inside the left over
and over again. I think being against the vanguard of
the left is a terrible place to be because the
(16:56):
revolution is ongoing, and I don't think that the university
presence they're going to stand up against it. They haven't
stood up against any other part of the revolution. I
don't think this is going to be different.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
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Is that website? All right? Or I need you to
weigh First of all, where can people go to uh
(18:31):
watch and hear your various student analysis? Just at the
Blaze dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, of course I'm on Blaze TV over there. You
can read my pieces at the Blaze dot com. And
of course you can subscribe to our McIntyre show. It's
on all your favorite podcast platforms, YouTube, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
All right, Before I let you go, I just need
to know I need you to settle a debate that
I'm having with my esteemed co host, mister Clay Travis.
You only get one for life, sir, Salsa or Keso.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Okay, so that's not even close one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I wasn't even a good way one hundred percent. I'm
gonna tell Clay I'm gonna play this one on the
air for him too. One hundred you, you, Me, Jesse Kelly,
we're all saying on this one plays a crazy man. Alurin,
thanks so much for making the time. Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Thanks for having me man.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Thank you
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