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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Brief. On this episode,
Matthew Tierman is with us investigative journalist, a man who
knows many things about many people in places all over
the world. He was just in Ramala, place I haven't
been to in a while, but I have been, and
I'm sure it is every bit as lovely as what
I was there. Tell me about your trip into the
West Bank, mister Tierman, and what you learned, what you saw,
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what's going on.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, you know, Ramala is just the money laundering capital
of the world. I know how long ago you were there,
but you got to say it's kind of nice. Maserati's
not Rickshaw's range Rovers, Mercedes, BMW's jeeps with American flags
on him, believe it or not. I mean lots of
Western goods and accoutreman. I mean that place is loaded.
It was a little bit shocking to the degree that
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it was.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I could tell you I was there almost twenty years
ago and it was not like that. So yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
That tells you a lot. I mean I know that,
you know, I was there during these hostilities. I went
in on a Polish passport, since you know, American relations
are not so good. I did not, you know, telegraph
that I'm an American Jew from New York, even though
I don't know look at me, they might have figured
that out. I ended up talking to some guys from
Chicago and New York. But I mean that place is
loaded now twenty years of money laundering since you were
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last there, between US taxpayers, EU taxpayers, the United Nations
being the the vehicle through which those laundered funds enter Ramala,
American school uners, schools. The place was over the top.
People were pretty friendly. It's not Gaza. The hostilities were not,
you know, of the of the same sort. They certainly
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referred to Israel as an occupying force and they do
hate Israel and even going to Yasir Arafats too. They
said that it's removable so that when they take back Jerusalem,
they can remove Arafats too from Mamala and put it
in Jerusalem, as per his dying wish. Uh So, it's
the place is very very odd. It's a it's a
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study in contrast the contrast of what the mainstream media
conception of the West Bank is versus what it's like
on the ground, gleaming new malls, Palestinian development bank with
top quality building materials for its you know, fifteen story skyscrapers.
Food was quite good, it was It was interesting. I
was there with Visagrad twenty four group I do work
with based in Europe, who's been covering the ongoing conflict
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in the Middle East quite tightly on social media. So
we were interviewing people over there and it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
What do they think the Ramalin's, I don't know what
you call Ramalins and the people of the West Bank.
Are they basically of the mind that Israel's going to
do what it does in Gaza and business is going
to continue over here. What are they saying?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, pretty much. I don't think they think that Israel's
going to be coming in anytime soon and leveling it
the way they are with Gaza. And even though they
are supportive of these terrorist cells, whether it's in the
North that has Blah or Hamas and Gaza, they don't
seem as proactively involved. They like their gravy train of
un money laundering and under schools, and you know, it
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was funny. We're walking, We're going to the main mosque,
the abdel Nasser Mosque, and we're at this, you know,
the equivment of what you have in New York, a bodega,
a little shop with you know, low level food and Sundrys.
And you had Logan or Jake Paul's new drink Prime
selling there, which you can't even get in some cities
in the US because it's so sold out. And so
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there's a weird level of westernization there, the brand and
licensed logoing copying that goes on. There are American food
operators there like Pizza Hut KFC, one of our guides
suggesting KFC stands for Kentucky Fried Camel, but that was
a licensed, actual American enterprise there. Popeye's Louisiana Kid was
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there a lot and I was there.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
There was a Starbucks ripoff that wasn't spelled Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Is that Stars and Bucks?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Stars and Bucks?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yes, literally the main landmark of Ramala that everybody in
the Middle East knows. Hey, you go to Vermala, have
you been to Stars and Bucks? So the story there
is the guy lifted Starbucks' logo just straight off about
twenty five thirty years ago, and Starbucks came after him
for license and trademark infringement, and so he just kind
of tweaked it a little, so it still looks like
the Green Circle, but it's now entitled Stars and Bucks
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and it's a coffee shop and a shisha lounge. So
he smoked some shisha and Stars and Bucks and that's
overlooking the main square. There are two little squares that
are connected by one of the main thoroughfares that looks
like the old prototypical, stereotypical Middle East, very thin road
congested small shops, and there's you know, the main square
that Stars and Bucks is over, and then the square
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block away which where there's the monument to the martyrs.
So you know, old habits do die hard. They love
the money laundering. But the rhetoric can invect is still
quite aligned with the Jihattist mentality that West Bank and
Palestinian affairs were built on.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Do you have any sense as to what the belief
over there is not so much in the West Bank,
more on the Israel side of things, but the future
of net Yahoo in all of this, people have been
asking me, and I always tell them like, if you
think you if you think American politics are opaque and
overly complicated, go check out what's going on over in
Israel with the Kanesset and all the rest of it.
(05:38):
What do you do you have any take on that?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, as you know, parliamentary systems are
by their nature much sloppier because you need coalitions. You're
very fragmented, many many parties across the entire spectrum of
far right to far left with everything in between. And
so net Yahoo I think it was like four or
five elections they had to hold with fractured coalitions to
rebuild a government that had some level stability. After October seventh,
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his popularity is way down. That being said, as long
as they're at war, there will not be a snap election.
They are unified behind essentially the military force and the
military management as it stands, which has many political appointees,
so they will not be you know, the political strife
we saw last year with judicial reform rearing its head
again and creating catalyzing snap elections. Netanyahu has probably done.
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His career is probably done, and we've said that many
times in the past, but here there is a lot
of antipathy after what happened October seventh, and certainly there
are a lot of people who feel that he had
some blame in terms of being asleep at the wheel
because they were so distracted with domestic politics they forgot
that their number one predicate, as you know, leaders of
this country more than any other, is security and stabilizing
the security, the defensive capabilities, and there was a failure
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that being said, as long as they're at war and
it's hot and kinetic and in the north and in
the south with Gaza, probably open any snap elections. So
some are arguing and rumor mongering that he has an
incentive to keep the war going because as a result,
he will stay in power. I think that's a little
overly cynical, and I'm quite cynical, but I think that's
a little overly cynical. Well, everyone in Israel is shaken
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up by what happened and wants to end Hamas and
restabilize the north where Husbala is continuing to be a
kinetic threat.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Let's talk about what just happened with the election in
Al Salvador, a country that people in the West really
know about because it used to be the murder capital
of the world per capital, at least close to it.
Number one numbers, well, it was Al Salvador was right there.
I think it was number two. Yeah, but number two yeah, okay.
As I said number one, number two was one of
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the highest murder places in the entire.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Honduras was like I remember friends from Honduras, from San
Pedro Sula, which is the second city in Honduras, and
that place like laps everywhere else. It's like, you know,
in Detroit, it's like, what like four out of one
hundred thousand get murdered, and San Pedro Sue it's like
three hundred out of one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The numbers are staggering. But in Al Salvador that has
completely turned around and there's probably a lesson for it.
So we're going to we're gonna talk about that election
and Bukeali the president once again. Here. But first a
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Investigative journalist bou Keley wins bigly in El Salvador. What happened?
Why does it matter?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Apparently? You know, much like we'll talk about Argentina with inflation,
but you know, when you have a massive crime problem,
the guy who actually says and then does deliver on
cleaning up crime gets a big mandate. I think this's
got to be the biggest mandate in any democratic systemic
election ever. Eighty five percent or something of the popular vote,
fifty eight out of sixty seats in the National Assembly,
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which is what that's what like ninety eight ninety six,
ninety six percent or so of the seats in Parliament
are now you know Buukelly's party, which has been built
around him. Of course, you have to worry about cultive personality,
you have to worry about dictatorial power creeping in. But
so far all of the Western media sphere lies or
smears that, you know, he's a dictator, the cool dictator
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they call him. Well is he Are you a dictator
if the people vote for you overwhelmingly. We've had the
debate about Victor orbon as well. You know, he keeps
winning these mandates and the West says, oh, he's a dictator,
or he's an autocrat or a fascist. Weill, Bukelly has
done something really pretty revolutionary in this hemisphere, especially south
of that border and looking southwards, these are very dangerous
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areas as we're talking about massive massive cartel activity, kidnapping
and ransoming, mass murder over the slightest trifling things. But again,
the drug trade is the main reason human migration as
well human trafficking, and he has cleaned up that area.
I mean, you know, we have this gangs in New
York like MS thirteen that hearken from these regions in
Central America, and we can't clean up Long Island from
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these drug gangs. But he's cleaned up his country very
quickly within one term, and so he's gotten a second term,
and so they'll, you know, say he's a dictator. But again,
largest mandate popular mandate maybe in history by percentage of
any country in the world. What he's doing, you're right,
is instructive. Apparently when you have high crime, tough on
crime does pay. Just like Malay getting elected Argentina over
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economic issues.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I want to ask you about you were down
there right in Argentina. We'll get into that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And was there for the inaugeration? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, what is Latin America? Why can't they figure this out?
Honestly on crime and on economics, specifically inflation. What do
they not get? I mean, the regimes that run these
countries and just across the board. Almost a few exceptions.
El salvad we're talking about one and the new leadership
in Argentina. But Latin America is poorly, poorly led right now,
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right whether you're talking about Mexico or Venezuela or Brazil
or what's going on. What do they have to figure
out Communists?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And we've talked about this in the past, and I
did a lot on this. During the Brazilian election, there
was a group, an entity called the Forum sell Palo
that was charted around nineteen ninety one by Fidel Castro
and Lula da Silva, the current again president of Brazil,
led out of prison to run election was brazenly stolen.
There's more than enough evidence out there. And the Forum
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sell Palo was created to fill the gap when the
Soviet Union went bust, because that was all the money
that was coming into the hemisphere of these third world nations,
just like in Africa, just like in the Middle East,
in uh In uh In incubating the p l O
and other of the Jahada separist movements. Uh in South America,
it was a Forum South Palo and they filled the
gap from the Soviet Union with with Castro and Chavez
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running it out of Cuba, and that's how they took
over Venezuela. That's how they took over in Nicaragua, That's
how they took over uh, Bolivia, Brazil, more recently Colombia
and Chile. Colombia and Chile, we we're kind of writy
conservative nations. Columbia was was run for many years by
you know what we would call Republicans if you had
to break it down to that dichotomy that we understand.
(12:52):
And now you have Petro who was a Marxist Naco
narco trafficante, a gorilla in the forests. Uh so he's
an He's a full on communist. Uh uh Borich in
Chile was the head of the Marxist Students League, student activist,
you know, not too different than Brandon uh Brandon Marshall
and uh Branda with brit To Johnson in Chicago the
teachers Union. Hack. I mean, somebody's never run anything, but
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all of a sudden ends up as president of a
nation that again was relatively conservative economically, was very classically liberal.
You had the Chicago Boys deregulating economy in Chile's great success,
Argentina's been run by the Parentists, the you know Juan
prone a Vita, don't cry for me, Argentina, that lady
played by Madonna in nineteen nineties. They have been run
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by the paranist regime and its predecessors also incubated by
the Forum. So Palo Christina Kirschner, her husband Nester Kirchner,
Fernandez and now Argentinians finally said, you know, after this
crippling hyperinflation over the last ten ten years, I mean
really thought the highest level of inflation in the country.
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Every day price is doubling sort of thing. The stuff
that you read about in Zimbabwe, the ymar Republic, and
this was a country that one hundred years ago was
third wealthiest in the world after the US and the UK.
So Malay got an overwhelming mandate. The Marxist got sent packing.
The reason Argentina was able to do it was quite simple.
They maintained paper ballots. Paper ballots are an integral part
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of the electoral process. In Brazil they got rid of
paper ballots. There was no audible ballot scheme was all digital,
and so they cheat in Brazil.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Did the Communist cheat in Brazil?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Oh? Yeah, and you know, you know, and I talked
about it. I covered it in depth a year and
a half ago. It was brazen what they did. Now
they stripped Balls and Hour of his right to run again.
The Supreme Court, this is the Supreme Court that detained
myself and the traveling party that included Jason Miller when
we met with Ballsonaro like three years ago. They detained
this at the airport and wanted to know everyone we
met with. So it was like full Stazi tactics. And
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the Supreme Court has their own law enforcement wing, and
they let Lula out of prison. They overturned all his
multiplicity of convictions and the guy should have been in
jail for the rest of his life. And then some
I mean they let out people in Lula's party that
were sentenced to four hundred years for criminal corruption. So
it's gross what's going on there. Brazil is probably lost
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for the foreseeable future, much like I view Pennsylvania was
constant in Michigan, but Argentina all of a sudden is
like this bulwark now and the shining light. Malay's going
to do a lot of big things. He's got the mandate.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Let me bring it home to because you mentioned that
I'm gonna make you go a little deeper into it, Pennsylvania,
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(16:32):
you say we got big problems there. I have friends
who are tied into politics in Pennsylvania very intimately, and
they tell me similar things, and it has to do
with just the party infrastructure, voter registration advantage, early voting campaigns,
et cetera. Is that part of your concern there? And
tell me about the other states.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, well, I think in those three states in particular,
these were you know, the purple swing states, and then
twenty twenty happened and they were very very successful in
taking control and Democrat like Wisconsin. The last bastion was
the state Supreme Court that went Democrat with Janet Gaevich.
Pennsylvania DEM governor, dam Legislature, DEM State Supreme Court. Uh,
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you know the same way that they approved. Whether you
believe that there was ballot stuffing or is more derivative
effect of voter fraud, whether it's the media obfuscation uh
or the you know, ballots during COVID going to every
household uh. And the the late the late tabulation thereof
that was allowable because the state legislature said, Okay, we're
just gonna do it. The Supreme courts and the states
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said we're just going to allow it, and they they
violated the separation of powers. Well, you know, the Dems
now control those three states in all of their facets politically,
and even if the people want to move to the
populace and conservative right, good luck, good luck. And I
think you know, Arizona and Georgia, which were hard red states,
are now purple. And part of it was, you know,
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the bankruptcy of the rn C and the candidates that
Trump endorsed and brought forward. I mean, these were candidates
that would never ever win. Mastriano ahs Herschel Walker, Carrie Lake.
You need to pick up independence if you're gonna win
these purple swing states. And because these states in the
northern Rust Belt, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan have incredible Union
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union faithful union rank and file. It makes up such
a percentage they're well organized. The Union states organized their
union rank and file real well for elections, Michigan being
the greatest example, with Big Auto there. For one hundred
years now, there has been a peel off of the
Union support because of right to work in other states,
because Trump and Bannon with economic nationalism did drive a
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lot of FDR Union Dems to the right in the
pro Trump camp. They're not the party of Elizabeth Warren
and Gavin Newsom and wokeism. But that being said again,
if the people there, if you have the margin is
five or ten percent, that swings it to the right.
The Union organizing the democratic policy making that will go
on in those states will make them untouchable for the
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next generation. We will not be one of those states.
And now I'm fearful that Arizona and Georgia are getting
more like those three swing states than Ohio and Florida,
which have been made more red.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Matt, Where can people go to follow your work? Twitter?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Instagram, social media? It's very ad hoc. Buck sextay was
the Buck Brief, Yeah, brief your apartment when you're hosting Yeah,
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thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
See as sobu