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March 4, 2025 • 17 mins

As the war in Ukraine continues with no resolution in sight, pressure is mounting on all sides. After meeting with Trump and J.D. Vance, Zelensky reaffirmed that the conflict remains far from over. But with billions in U.S. aid already spent and no clear path to victory, is Ukraine’s strategy backfiring?

 

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
After the fiery meeting in the Oval Office that just
happened on Friday with Trump, Zelenski, and of course JD. Vance,
what the heck is Zelenski doing saying that an end
to the Ukraine War was quote very very far away?

(00:40):
Why would he do that? Donald Trump wants to know.
He called this out on truth social He said, this
is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelenski,
and America will not put up with it for much longer.
It is what I was saying. This guy doesn't want
there to be peace as long as he has America's
backing and Europe. In the meeting they had with Zelenski,

(01:01):
he stated flatly, they cannot do the job of the US.
Probably not a great statement to have been made in
terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are
they thinking? This just goes to show you, I think
how intemperate and ill advised the Zelensky response to Trump,
Vance and really just to the United States was. In

(01:24):
this recent sit down where we are supposed to what
fund the Ukraine War endlessly as a humanitarian gesture. We
are funding, to the tune of hundreds of billions of
dollars a war that does not affect US territorial integrity.
If anything has cost the US massively economically, it's not

(01:44):
under economic interests. The only national security interest that you
could even begin to argue.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
That it serves for us is that it is Well,
there's one, which is that it is meant to stop
Russia from rolling over other European countries militarily, which I
think is as a fantasy, look at the trouble they're
having in Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Then there's one that's really quite cynical and bloody minded,
and that is that we are draining Russia's manpower reserves
without actually losing any Americans. But that only makes sense
if you think that we're trying to prevent or rather
that we're trying to prepare for a war with Russia

(02:29):
in the long term, which we are not, or at
least we shouldn't be, because that would be insane. There's
no reason for US to go to war with Russia.
Russia has what a trillion dollar economy. This is not
a country that we should have to sit around thinking
so much about But the Democrats, as you know, in
mesh us politics with the machinations of the Kremlin, and

(02:53):
Putin very much in twenty sixteen by saying that he
delivered the election to Trump, which was just insane, just
crazy stuff. And they made some massive miscalculations, the Democrats did.
Joe Biden did well, the calculations he made for himself
his family to get millions of dollars from Ukraine. Of
course that worked out for them, but for American interests,

(03:15):
it was a tremendous blunder what was done here in
Ukraine over a series of many years, and making Putin
think that we were going to bring Ukraine into NATO,
a military alliance which, let's be honest, exists to hold
Russia in check. We're going to add and we were
going to add Ukraine into that. And Putin said, absolutely not,

(03:37):
and so he invades and creates this horrible, bloody mess
that we're seeing right now. Why would Zelenski ever say
the end of this war is very very far away.
What does he think is gained? They're just going to
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look at medieval siege warfare, which was really the way

(04:44):
that warfare was conducted for a long time, especially when
you didn't have standing armies. So there was a limited
campaign season, and so if you had a fortified place,
a castle, some kind of a you know, fortified palace
or a walled city, if you had that, a big
strategy was to wait it out. But if the other side,

(05:06):
if the those who were doing the siege had enough
supplies and were able to cut you off. Eventually, they
were just going to starve everybody out. You're all going
to die. And so if you knew that that was
likely to be the case and you weren't gonna get
any reinforcements, better to cut your losses and cut a
deal sooner than to continue on with the siege with
a lot of people dying on both sides that eventually

(05:28):
you might face the total annihilation of your city and
of your manpower as the siege drags on. So there
are huge costs to delay. There are a huge cost
to getting this wrong. And what has really been gained
by Ukraine in the last called the last two years,
the first year of the conflict, you can say they

(05:48):
had to stop Russia. Okay, they stopped Russia from rolling
over them. Heroic was resistance by Ukrainian fighters did far
better than was anticipated, certainly by the Russians. That's into
year one, you're two year three. What has happened just
stalemate with more and more death meat grinder. Let's end
this thing, That's what Trump is saying. Let's end this thing,

(06:10):
and that requires pressure on both sides. If Zelenski doesn't
think that there's pressure on him to end it, well,
then maybe he can just continue to bleed out Russia
and think he'll get better terms from Russia in a
year than he gets right now. No, Dick, bring this
to an end. Now. You need pressure on both sides.
You know. It's the guy in what's that show called
Billions who plays as he says, nobody ever leaves negotiation happy,

(06:34):
and he's being glib, but there's some truth in that.
It's not a negotiation if you get everything you want.
Putin's not going to get everything that he wants, which
is all probably all of Ukraine, and Ukraine is not
going to get. Zelenski's not going to get everything that
he wants. And Trump is there to tell them this
and all this stuff too. I got to tell you
it really ticks Trump off. And I can understand why

(06:54):
that there's this sort of widespread narrative that Donald Trump
is some big advocate for Putin, some Putin puppet. This
is just insane. This is some hangover from the Democrats
and Hillary in twenty sixteen. This is not rooted any
actual reality. You know, he speaks respectfully about Putin because
he's the leader of a major country with thousands of

(07:17):
nuclear missiles and a lot of oil and energy assets
that the global economy is affected by. So yeah, he's
not going to just sit around and talk tough. Jd.
Vance pointed this out, the talk tough, talk tough stuff
that Biden did when he wasn't muttering and forgetting where
he was. What did that get us? That gets us nowhere?
That's nothing. There's so many people for whom the Ukraine

(07:39):
issue has just become either stop Trump at all, you know,
just oppose Trump at all costs. So they don't even
care who's done what and what they now, It doesn't
even matter to them. They just they hate Trump. They
know what side of this he's on. He's trying to
stop it. And then there's also so that's on the
that's on the one side of the issue. And then
I think there are a lot of people for whom

(08:00):
this is just a big virtue signaling exercise. I know
that sounds crazy, but it's true. They put the Ukraine
flag up and they say, the brave Ukrainian resistance, we
have to stop them. They have this very childlike, simplistic
view of what's going on over there. As as you know,
Churchill versus Hitler, and it's not Churchill versus Hitler. Russia

(08:20):
is not Nazi Germany. This this stuff needs to stop.
But unfortunately that has infected a lot of people's minds
because the media has been has been propping that up too,
as though that's in any way a reasonable analogy to
what's going on. So, yeah, Trump is pressuring Zelenski here,
he said, and we're helping you, but we got to

(08:42):
get some kind of a deal done. Let's hear what
the deal points are. Let's see if it's reasonable. You
do have to say, it feels like Zelensky almost wants
to blow the whole thing up because he wants it
to continue, because he thinks that that will be better
for him in his country in the long run, which
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there's so much unhinged nonsense from the commentariat about what
has gone on here. I mean here there's Democrat Chris

(10:11):
Murphy of the Senate saying that the White House is
an arm of the Kremlin.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
What's your reaction to what you just heard from the
President's National security advisor. Do you think there's hope of
salvaging this relationship with you screen. So it is absolutely
shameful what is happening right now. The White House has
become an arm of the Kremlin. Every single day you
hear from the National Security Advisor, from the President of
United States, from his entire national security team, Kremlin talking points.

(10:37):
For the last week, the White House has been pretending
as if Ukraine started this war. That's essentially saying that
Poland invaded Germany at the beginning of World War Two.
There are still facts in this world, and the fact
is this, Vladimir Putin is a brutal dictator, Russia started
this war. And the entire pretext for that meeting yesterday

(10:59):
was an attempt to rewrite history in order to sign
a deal with Putin that hands putin Ukraine. That is
disastrous for US national security.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
This is nuts, this is embarrassing. I'm sorry that they
haven't figured out yet that the Russia Russia stuff is
not going to become less insane in time. These accusations
against Trump. I've dealt with this so many times. Trump
gave the Russians in his first term weapons that Obama

(11:33):
refused to give to the I'm sorry. Trump gave the
Ukrainians weapons to use against the Russians in his first
term that Obama, after the initial Russian invasion of ukrain
which happened on Obama's watch, refused to give because he
thought it would be too much of a provocation because
of Trump giving them javelin missiles. And he pointed this

(11:53):
out in the Oval Office. There was a real resistance
possibility or capability for the Ukrainian forces against Russian mechanized infantry, tanks,
armored personnel carriers. So it's a big deal. Would you
do that if you were Putin's puppet? Of course, would
you expel dozens and dozens more diplomats than ever before
expelled in the post Soviet era from the United States, No,

(12:16):
you wouldn't do that. So many things that Trump is,
that Trump did in the past that showed he's not
Putin's puppet. He's just reacting in the interests of America
and the American people and calling balls and strikes and
using carrots and sticks. And this is how this is
how adults do this stuff. I know that there's a
language of diplomacy that people want to talk about and oh,

(12:37):
it's all about gentility and sitting around at cocktail parties.
But ultimately what matters is results, and I think Trump
is getting us in a place where we could see
a result that is far better than anything we would
have seen, certainly if Kamala Harris had been president, and
anything that Joe Biden, to the degree that he was
even the president, is able to bring about. So let's

(12:58):
see where he takes this. The mineral rights deal idea
is a way of getting a benefit for the US,
benefits for the Ukrainian who wouldn't be able to get
this stuff. I don't have the resources and the ability
to get this stuff resourced on their own or mined
on their own, and would create a real interest. You know,
if we have a monitor, if the United States has

(13:19):
a monetary interest in Ukrainian rare earth minerals, well, then
putin just deciding to roll over with tanks does become
our problem pretty quickly, doesn't it. We really care about that.
It's interesting to me that Democrats only want to use
the US military when it is not an America's interest.
This isn't almost an ironclad rule Democrats want to deploy

(13:40):
the military when it makes them feel good because they've
created a feel good narrative of we are the nice,
humanitarian people and we're fighting against evil. In this way,
this is why Clinton sent to the peacekeepers into Somalia.
It's led the Blackhawk down incident. This is why Clinton
was involved in the Balkans. And this is you know,
Obama and Hillary Clinton involving US in Libya. I mean,

(14:03):
you look at all these times they want to when
Democrats wanted the military, there's no US, no US interest
that's other than people wanted to feel good about themselves,
the flexing of muscle and the military industrial complex stock
going up. So yeah, I think there's something to be
looked at here with maybe there should be an actual
American interest in Ukraine, which would be good for us

(14:24):
and good for the Ukrainians. So makes makes total sense
to me. But anyway you had to You had Chris
Murphy there, he's a maniac. And then the Washington Post
David Ignatius here he is David ignation. Your response to
this meeting European reaction and whether or not this was
just a complete and total gift to Kutin So Nika.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Lindsey Graham had it right when he said it was
a complete and utter disaster. It was a kind of
piece of television that I don't think any of us
have ever watched or imagined we would from the Oval Office.
The question for me now is whether it's possible to
pick up the pieces, and if so, how it's really
striking to look at the reactions. Three days later, the

(15:11):
Kremlin is delighted. The Preblement spokesman to meet you, Peskov
said that US policy is now largely aligned with that
of Russia. Can you imagine that that? That's that's the
description from the Kremlin of where things stand.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, oh gosh, complete an utter disaster. The Kremlin is delighted.
It's it always comes back to Trump Russia stuff for them,
doesn't it? Because ultimately Democrats don't. They don't think we
have any foreign enemies. The only enemies Democrats care about
are Republicans in this country, because we're an impediment to
their power. Foreigners they can always cut a deal with,

(15:48):
they can always sell out their country. They don't really care.
The only enemies that exist for Democrats are domestic enemies,
which means their political opposition which means Trump and the
Republican Party, and you just see it over and over again.
So that's what I have for you on the with
the update on Ukraine and Zelenski. More tomorrow, shield Hime.
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