November 13, 2023 • 35 mins
In this episode, Tudor discusses the recent antisemitic incidents and the perceived media bias towards them. She criticizes the media for downplaying these incidents and compares it to the extensive coverage of the George Floyd case. Dixon shares her personal faith journey and the importance of prayer in her life. She also discusses the challenges of expressing faith in a society that sometimes views it negatively. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday, Wednesday, & Friday. For more information visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We like to get
into some great debates on this program about where the
world is heading, and generally that means politically, but what
about faith. We see the anti Semitism, the attacks on Jews.
A Jewish man was just killed at a Palestinian rally
in California and it barely made the news. Some media
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outlets had headlines like Jewish man fell and died at
pro Palestine rally, fell and died. The man was struck
with a bullhorn, not to the ground, and succumbed to
his injuries. That's murder, folks, But it's not the narrative
the news likes doesn't help the Democrats, like the George
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Floyd story. No headlines then that said man dies of
fentanyl poisoning after George Floyd died, No outrage over drugs,
no real investigation into why this is happening. George Floyd murdered.
But the Jewish man attacked at the rally, fell and died.
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There's no one to pay groups to march for the
Jewish Jewish people, no one to riot and loot after
the death of a Jew or a Christian. But a
lot of people have been paid and transported to anti
Semitic rallies. In fact, these people can be busted into
the Capitol, they can go up to the White House
and they can try to push through the White House
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gates and vandalize the pillars with red paint and the
media will remain silent. But not if you dare say
you're a Christian, if you read the Bible, if you
share the good word of the Lord, then you should
expect a spiritual battle to begin. And in America, folks,
it's here, that's right. There's a strong push to mock
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and embarrass and destroy Christians. We know this because we
have a new Speaker of the House, Speaker Mike Johnson.
And guess what he dared to say. His worldview comes
from the Bible. Listen to him here it is.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Someone asked me today in the media. They said, it's curious.
People are curious, what does Mike Johnson think about any
issue under the sun. I said, well, go pick up
a Bible off your shelf and read it. That's my worldview.
That's what I believe.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's funny because it didn't even phaze me. And there
are different responses to this, but people went completely nuts.
So if you're a person of faith, you just get this.
I mean, regardless of your faith, you just get it.
If you are a believer, you let you lead your
life by what you've learned through faith, and you understand
what the speaker is saying here, you get it. For Christians,
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that's the Gospel, and that's where most Christians base their worldview.
It's normal. It's not radical, it's not crazy, not dangerous,
it's normal. And I say most Christians because there are
Christians who do not spend that much time in the Word.
They don't study the Word, they don't apply the Word
of God to their lives, but they believe in Jesus.
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I've been there and that's why I wanted to start
this podcast by sharing my own faith journey with you.
So you know, I get it. But I also see
how the mainstream media desperately wants to erase God and
how vulnerable we are to those attacks. They're actually moving
forward with that. But don't be deceived, folks. God is
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letting them. Yeah, He's got this, there's nothing out of
his control. But see, here's the thing. He sees that
we are actually allowing the hands and feet of hands
and feet of God to be bound here in the world,
and I'm going to explain what that means. But first
so you understand where I'm coming from with this, So
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it's not just like you're hearing me say the media
is doing this and you don't really believe it. I
want you to listen to Jensaki, and let's remember when
you listen to this. This is the former White House
Press secretary to a president who is supposedly a Catholic.
And she was even out there talking talking about him
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being a Catholic. Oh yes, cathol, Yes, yes, yes, he's
a Catholic. Watch her mock the speaker's faith and to
be honest, just Christians in general. Here it is you
heard that right.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
The Bible doesn't just inform his worldview, it is his worldview.
In fact, during his first speech in his new job,
Johnson suggested that his election as Speaker was an act
of God. Talk about a bit of a humble brag there.
So what exactly has God apparently called on Mike Johnson
to do well? His views on policy are essentially what
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you'd expect from a religious fundamentalist. They're more divisive than
there divine.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Listen She's not saying this because she's afraid of Speaker Johnson.
She's afraid of the Christian voice, and she wants you
to be embarrassed. She believes that she can use her
bully pulpit to make Christians feel ashamed of who they are.
Every good leftist journalist wants to destroy something they view
as being on the right. She wants to take credit
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for this one. She wants to take credit for making
Christians hide their faith, make them deny Jesus, make it
so that no one knows they worshiped the Lord, or worse,
make them stop believing themselves. And she thinks she has
that power. You may be asking what true Christian would
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allow that, Well, every Christian's on a journey. So that's
why I want to share a little bit of mine.
I obviously, when I was running, openly told people that
I lead my life by my Christian faith. But when
I was a kid, I was what some might call
a Christor. I don't know if you guys have ever
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heard this term. It's people who go to church on
Christmas and Easter. I was a christ I don't know why.
I don't know why. My parents just decided that we
would go to church on Christmas and Easter, and maybe
we went a couple of other times, but that was
the majority of my faith. In my uppers. My grandparents
on both sides were incredibly involved in the church, especially
on my dad's side, but we just weren't regular church goers.
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When I went to my grandparents' house, I was always
taken to church, and I remember my grandmother being very
involved in the church, and there was just something inside
of me that felt this overwhelming piece there, like I
liked it. I wanted to be there. And even so,
even though I wasn't in the church at home, it
was like Christ was present in me. I just knew it.
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I didn't have the backstory though, I didn't know why
he was there. I remember when I was like eleven
years old, my parents took me to church and I
was baptized in front of the whole church, and like, remember,
I'm only there on Christmas and Easter. So this is
not like what you're if you grew up in the church.
It's not like what you know. So imagine not knowing
anybody there, standing up in front of the whole church
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and getting baptized and you're like eleven, right, so I
had no idea what the whole christ backstory was. I
didn't really know what I was doing. I didn't have
a full understand of the connection to God, being saved,
fully dedicating my life to Christ. And that's where they
get you. When you're right on the edge, you feel
God in your soul, but you don't have the backstory.
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That's where the naysayers can tear someone's interest in faith down.
And if the media can make Christianity bad, if Christian
groups can be listed as hate groups, then those folks
that are just on that edge, those folks that are
interested in faith, well, they think they can get you
to walk away. And without faith, where are people. They're
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left searching for a cause and an identity, and let's
face it, they're vulnerable. We weren't a praying family growing up.
I know some of you that's shocking and for others
that's where you are right now. I get it. Growing up,
we just didn't turn to prayer. It was just not
part of my family. And I remember when I started
going to church and people are like, oh, pray pray
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for this, pray for that. I'm like, Wow, it doesn't
strike me because that's not how I was raised at
that time. That was shocking to me. Like, for example,
if someone was sick or something, or like I needed
help solving a problem, I didn't think I could go
to God. I just felt like I was alone. And
that's the worst place to be for so many people,
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thinking that you're doing this all in your own by yourself,
in your own power, you have no one else to
go to. And I'm telling you this because if faith
is second nature to you and it's just always been
a part of your life, you may not realize how
precarious of a face situation we're in in this country.
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When I was in middle school, my parents would occasionally
have to go out of town for a conference or something,
and we had this babysitter that would come and she
was this older lady and you know, now she's probably
my age, but in my mind she was like in
her seventies. You know, who knows, But when you're little,
everybody seems really old. So she was really old and
very faithful. And I didn't remember. I didn't grow up
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in this type of household where he just prayed over everything.
And her name was Levn, and I remember I came
home from school one day and I had this terrible headache.
And this is going to seem so normal to so
many of you, but just so you can understand what
it's like when it's not normal to you, she put
her hand on my head and she was like, I,
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Lord Jesus, I pray over this child that the pain
would go away. And I was like, what is happening?
So I'm in this vulnerable spot where pretty much I
know in my heart at that time, somebody could have
gone to me and said, this is nuts. Get away
from these Christians. They're crazy, and it would have implanted
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a seed in me that could have taken. They could
have sprouted, but I already had a seed inside of me.
It was a tiny seed. It was a tiny seed
of faith. It was a mustard seed, and it just
had to grow. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll
continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So my first
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experience kind of thinking about that and exploring faith really
was at my grandmother's funeral. My grandmother's funeral. This was
my dad's mom. Like I said, they were very involved
in their church, and at that point they were out
in Arizona and they were at one of those really
big churches where they had It was funny because my
parents grew up in a church where you only sang
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like traditional hymns from the hymnal. And then my grandmother
went to this church where, you know, now they have
like modern Christian music, and it was horrifying to my
mother and she's like, oh, my goodness, how are we
going to go to this funeral where this church is
going to play this rock music. And we went and
it was a huge church. And my dad, who was
this phenomenal public speaker, he was just like, I really
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looked up to my dad and my aunt. So my
dad and his sister were both these incredible influencers in
their own space. She was in sales, he was in steel.
They had risen up and given speeches everywhere. And they
both turned to me, and I was in college. They
both turned to me and they said, yeah, there's no
way we're not speaking at this funeral. We can't do it.
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You're going to give the eulogy. And I was like, what,
I'm twenty, you know, and so but I knew, I
knew that I saw the pain in both of their eyes.
They just couldn't do it. And so it was like
a calling for me. Right at that moment, I said, Okay,
I'm going to do this, and I sat down and
I went through with my sister all of our memories
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and I gave the speech about my grandmother. And as
we were walking out, the pastor stopped me and he said,
can I convince you to go to seminary? And it
was like this moment where I thought, please do not
let my mom have heard that, because she will just
laugh about the thought of me going to seminary. And I,
you know, I said, no, I've never thought about that.
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I was in college as it was. And I walked away,
but it started something in me like I just want
to know more about this. I couldn't. I couldn't even
comprehend going to seminary because I hadn't even opened a
Bible and really read through it. And when I did
open a Bible, it was so intimidating, like how do
you know what this Bible actually means? How can I
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put these words into a context that I understand? So
I kind of put that off, put off faith again.
That was another opportunity, but I put it off again.
And then when I was gosh thirty two, I just
had my oldest daughter. She was six months old at
the time, and a girlfriend came to me and she said, hey,
have you ever heard of this thing. It's called Bible
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Study Fellowship And I said no, and she said, well,
they just started a kid's program and they're taking kids
six months old, and since Lark's six months old, I
think you should start going. And I'm kind of one
of those obedient friends, and so, without really putting a
lot of thought into this, I was like, yeah, why not,
I'll go, of course. So I go to the first
Bible Study fellowship and it's like intense. This woman takes
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me aside and you like, get the introduction. Okay, you've
entered this I will study fellowship. And it was like
you're going to have an hour of homework every night
of the week. And I have this baby, and I'm like,
really out of school and I'm thirty two. I haven't
been in school in a long time. I haven't had
homework in a long time. And I'm intimidated. And I
come home and I said to my husband, she said, well,
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what was the Bible study like? And I'm like it
sounds horrible. I mean, we have to do all this homework,
we have to learn about the Bible, and then we
have to go in every week and talk about the
homework that we did, like have an open discussion on it.
And I don't know the Bible, so the thought of
going in there and reading this and then trying to
talk about it makes me feel like an idiot. And
he was like, so are you just not going to
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do it? And every part of me wanted to say, yeah, no,
I'm out, but that mustard seed said no, you're not.
You're going. You're going to do this. And so as
I went into this and I started to explore the
Bible and I started listen to what the other people said.
They said, you know, as you get deeper into faith,
your life will change. You're going to your friends will change,
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the things that you do will change. Tragedy will strike
you and you'll look at it differently. And at the time,
I remember thinking like, I don't want tragedy to strike me.
I'm going to bow out of this. But what I
realized in that is that tragedy is going to strike
all of us. We're all going to have something hard
and without faith, I just don't know how you get
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through that. So I started hearing about these miracles, not
in the Bible. You're hearing about miracles in the Bible
at the same time. The Bible is like this book
that says, these things happened while Jesus was here, when
God was talking to Moses, when God was speaking into
the prophets, these things were happening. But they are happening still.
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And I want to remind you when I said, my
first inclination didn't used to be to pray when something happened.
And I will never forget one of the stories that
one of the women told. She said, we were at
the beach, and so we live on the west side
of Michigan, right at Lake Michigan, and everybody goes to
the beach in the summer, and the lake is a
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very scary place because it pulls people under, and we
have a lot of drownings every year. And she said
her son was just a child like four, playing in
the water, and all of a sudden he was gone.
And she said, no matter where we looked, we couldn't
see him. And they were there with her sister and
so cousins and dads, they all were looking out in
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the water, and she said, we all immediately fell to
our knees on the beach and we prayed. And I
remember thinking that would not be my first reaction, that
would not be where I would go with that, because
I would be so desperate to find my child. And
the rescuers were out in the lake, and within fifteen
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minutes they found the boy on the top of the water,
face down, and they pulled him out and they dragged
him to the beach and they started to do CPR.
And it had been fifteen minutes. They didn't think that
there was a chance. This family never faltered. They never
sat there and said, what's happening, what's happening. They prayed,
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they held hands together, they sat on their knees, they
knelt down, They prayed to God save this boy. The
boy came to he never had any long term problems
from this. As they were walking from the hospital that day,
one of the rescuers stopped her and he said, we've
never seen that happen before. Drowning victims don't float, they
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don't sit on the top of the water. Usually we
don't find a child, we find a body. And that
was a moment where I was like, these miracles happen
every day, and we see them and we feel them,
and we don't talk about them in a biblical way,
but they are happening and they are amazing. And that
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mustard seed that began to grow into so a faith
that I needed so badly and didn't know. And within
a few years of this so I ended up staying
in Bible study fellowship for seven years. And through that
time I did have tragedy. We lost a baby. I
lost a baby at eighteen weeks and I remember coming
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home from the hospital. You know, we went through we
went through labor, we said goodbye? How did the baby
said goodbye? Coming home? And I'm just gonna be really
honest with you, guys. I know that for men this
is hard, but I think that for a woman, there's
so many feelings. There's this feeling that you failed somehow,
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this baby you were growing inside of you, You messed
it up. That baby didn't make it. What did I
do wrong? Why did this happen? And as I was
sitting there and I'm on my knees and I'm saying,
why did this happen? What did I do wrong? God?
I felt this just presence around my shoulders, like you
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know what You're gonna be fine. I've got you. I
can't explain it anyway other than that, And this amazing
piece came over me and I thought, how do people
do it without faith? And then a few years later,
so then we had another baby, and actually three more babies.
So I have my oldest, my middle and twins. And
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at the time the twins are too and I'm thirty eight,
and I go in for my regular checkup and the
doctor says, we're all worried about this lump here, and
the next thing I know is cancer, And again tragedy struck.
And I remember leaving the doctor's office and sitting in
the car and crying on the way home, and this
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sense of do not cry. We've got this. I'm with you.
We are on a journey, and we are on that
journey together. And never again did I have fear through
that entire journey, and never again did I cry through
that entire journey, through surgery, through everything. He was there
with me. Prayer works for those who believe God is able,
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and that was something I learned in Bible study too.
One of these women, she said to me, you got
to understand that prayer is powerful, but prayer is only
powerful if you believe God can do what you're asking.
And it makes me think of Luke eight forty three
through forty eight. You remember the woman who was bleeding.
Let me read this to you. Now, there was a
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woman who had been suffering from hemorrhages for twelve years,
and though she has spent all she had on physicians,
no one could cure her. She came up behind Jesus
and touched the fringe of his clothes, and immediately her
hemorrhage stopped. And then Jesus asked, who touched me? When
all didn't Peter said, Master, the crowd surrounds you and
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press in on you. The crowd surrounds you and press
in on you. But Jesus said, someone touched me. For
I noticed the power gone out from me. Then the
woman saw that she could not remain hidden. She came
trembling and falling down before him, and she declared in
the presence of the people why she had touched him
and how she had been immediately healed. And he said
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to her, daughter, your faith has made you well. Go
in peace. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue
next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Prayer is not magic,
It's not a wishless it is a personal relationship with
our creator, who is greater than all and loves us
more than we can ever understand. It wasn't the fact
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that he had to turn and heal her. She didn't
have to ask God. His power went out to her
because she believed that if she just touched him, that
power was there. And I started to engage in this
and understand this and realize this, and my girls were
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realizing this, And I can tell you from my own
experience some of the things that we went through and
why faith is so important to me and why faith
is something that I hold onto and that I can
tell you is bigger than me little things. My oldest
was a thumbsucker. Really struggled with it. And if you're
a parent, and I mean, I know that can sound silly,
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but if you're a parent and you have a child
that is sucking their thumb, you're at your wits end.
How do you get them to stop? And so we
talked about it. We talked about it. She said, I
want to stop, but I just can't. And I said, well,
why don't we pray about it? And you know what
this is a really big moment for me because I
really hadn't done this. I had never openly talked about prayer.
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I had never talked about prayer for something specific to
see God working in that way. I had asked for comfort,
I had asked for healing in a way. But I
had never had a bold like this has to change,
help us do this prayer. And it wasn't me. It
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was Larkin, my oldest, at like four years old. She
sat down and she prayed, and she took her blanket
that night because her blanket was the kind of the reason.
If she could have that blank in her hand, she
was going to suck her thumb. She on her own
after this prayer, took that blanket. It was like she
knew God told her put the blanket away. That was
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the last night she ever sucked her thumb. That was it.
It was over two days later the blanket came back out.
She never sucked her thumb again. My middle daughter, she
used to have not night terror. She used to have
fever hallucinations, which I had no idea that was a thing.
So parents, if you have a baby and you don't
know that night or fever hallucinations are a thing. She
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would be eighteen months old and you could see her
looking around the room, screaming in terror. And until she
could actually verbalize, I didn't know what was happening. So
she would say, I see the scary faces everywhere, which
a side that was terrifying. But she would go through
this and like screaming, and it would be a nightmare.
And so we said, okay, we're going to pray to
Jesus that he release you from this, that he is there,
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and she would say, Jesus is here, you leave me alone.
And that was the last time she ever that one
time when we held hands and we said, in the
name of Jesus, let these these fever hallucinations leave. They
never returned. So what's harder? Is it harder if you're
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in the situation where you've always known, if you have
always known that Jesus was there? Is it harder right
now in America if you're someone who was saved as
an older person? I mean, I know what it is
to live on two different sides of the faith spectrum,
So I want all the time, is it harder to
be my girls who've grown up reading scripture and talking
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to Jesus every day and seeing his miracles and his
love and being told that their faith makes them bad?
Is that hard to suddenly see someone say your faith
makes you bad. Wait, I've seen these miracles, I've seen
this love. How can you tell me that my faith
makes me bad? They hear these comments, they hear these comments.
It's about speaker Johnson and them calling him a Christian nationalist.
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They know people say he hates rather than he loves.
The Christianity they know is filled with love. But what
will have been when they are told that their beliefs
are not socially acceptable? Will they be strong or will
they be Peter and deny their faith? Remember that moment
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when Judas had just betrayed Jesus. Jesus had actually just
told Peter he would deny him, and Peter was like,
ooh what No, there's no way, it's impossible. So then
they go out and they about this. The disciples have
no idea what's about to happen. They're with their leader.
They believe he's going to be king. They're with the
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guy who's going to lead the world. Okay, so they're safe.
They are on the Mount of Olives. They don't know
Judas is a jerk. You know that he's gone to
the other guys and said, hey, let's take him. I've
got I need some silver, let's do this thing. So
they feel good about this. Peter's on the top of
the world. He's with the king of kings. He's not
going to deny him. All of a sudden, the priests come,
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Judas comes, he betrays him, They take Jesus. They're questioning him.
And what happens. What happens in this moment where society's like,
this guy is bad, Jesus is bad, You're bad for
being around him. Does Peter hold strong? No, Peter falters.
And that's an interesting part of the Bible because it's
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a moment where we can all go, oh my gosh,
I've been a Peter. I know exactly what it's So, Matthew,
this is Matthew twenty six sixty nine through seventy five.
Now Peter sat outside the courtyard and a servant girl
came to him, saying, you also were with Jesus of Galilee.
But that's not what Peter says. Peter denies it before
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them all, saying I do not know what you were saying.
And when he had gone out to the gateway. Another
girl saw him and said to those who were with
who were there, this fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth.
But he denied with an oath, saying I do not
know the man. And there's an exclamation point there, so
we know he was adamant he did not know Jesus.
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And a little bit later those who stood up and
came by and said to Peter, surely you are one
of them, for your speech betrays you. Then he gets
like ticked right. He begins to curse and swear, and
he's like, I do not know this guy. I do
not know the man again with an exclamation point. Then
what do we hear? A rooster crow? Peter remembers the
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words of Jesus, who said, before the rooster crows, you
will deny me three times. And Peter goes out and
he weeps. He's just so upset about it. How could
this happen? But that is such a perfect example of
how this happens. And if you have a strong foundation,
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you come back to faith. Maybe this will happen to
my girls, and I hope they have a strong foundation
that will bring them back like it did Peter Jesus
called Peter the Rock. Peter's considered the founder of the
Roman Catholic Church, which means his foundation in faith won out,
which means as humans, we can falter and we can
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still return. And I want my girls to return to
their foundation rather than be drawn to a passing cause
by a media who wants to tell them that Christians
are bad. I was asked to deny my faith on
the campaign trail. This was a common thing. This is
a common thing with politicians. What's the balance? How do
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you thread the needle? You might say denying. You know,
we can be strong, we can deny a maybe deny
is a too strong overword. Should we deny? I don't know. No,
this is denying. If you cannot stand firmly in your faith,
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it's denying. And you can deny and you can come
back to faith with your strong foundation, but you have
to understand that you're being asked to deny. I was asked.
I was sometimes told by Christians and not Christians. When
I first started campaigning. This is like really early on. Okay,
so I don't even know what I'm doing it. I'm
just sitting down and talking to people and telling them
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why I think that we can make great changes in Michigan.
And the woman says, tell me your story. And I
tell this long story about what led me here, and
I said, and my husband and I sat down and
pray to the decision. And then I go on to
talk and she stops me at the end of it,
and she said, don't ever do that. And I couldn't
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even remember what she was talking about. I said, what,
don't ever say? You prayed? And I was kind of
taken aback and said, what do you mean, don't ever
do that? People will be so turned off, you won't
get the young people. You cannot tell people you're a Christian.
I'm a Christian. This is her, I'm a Christian. But
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I would never tell anyone. Wow. I just immediately had
the sense like, no, I'm not okay with that. I'm
not going to do that. But I wonder how often
I didn't say what I wanted to say because that
woman was in my head. How often did I have
a Peter moment, even though my foundation was strong. How
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often did I let it make me question whether I
could say in this country that I'm a Christian, a
country that was founded on Christian values. I was afraid.
I was told when I went to the east side
of the state there was a high population of Muslims
and Jews, take your cross off. I didn't. I'm not
going to I had one donor one supporter. We met often.
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He was a Muslim and he was very open about
his Muslim faith. He would have prayer beads in his
hand every time we talked. He was very much open
about the importance of his faith. But he didn't hesitate
to sit me down. After I was at an event
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where some of the people with me said, we're talking
about their Christian values, and he said, don't ever talk
about your Christian values. It is such a turn off
to us. And I've thought about that so many times
since then, because what if I were to go to
someone in the Muslim community that was running for office
and I said, in this country, we don't want to
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know your Muslim outrageous? That would be outrageous. I would
be I would just be toasted. Everybody in the media,
everybody in the political world would say, how could you
do that? But for some reason, it's okay to do
that to Christians. So let me ask you something, What
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does that mean for Christians? In this country. If Christians
can be so persecuted, if they can be told not
to speak about their faith, what does that mean for Christians? Well,
I'm going to tell you it means nothing. And you
might go, what are you talking about. You just did
this whole podcast. Now you're telling me it means nothing.
It means nothing because God is bigger than the people
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who want you to hide, to feel shame, to apologize
for your faith or your reliance on God's word to
guide you. It means nothing. God is bigger than that.
But the spiritual battle is strong on us soil today.
It's stronger than it has been in the past. And
those people who are young in faith, those people that
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I talk to you about the mes, the people who
are exploring faith, they could be driven away without the
hands and feet of God speaking boldly the truth. If
that's you, then do it. Share the good word, stand
up to the bullies. That's why I tell you the
hands and feet, the hands and feet of God are bound.
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We are allowing them to be bound because we are
allowing Yahoo's like Jensaki to go out there and mock
Christianity and not say, hey, you can say whatever you
want in the United States. But we're gonna stop listening
to you because you don't get to bully us.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Do that.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Stop listening to those people talk about your faith and
make it look Make those people who are young in
faith look at Jensaki and go, man, you're gross, You're disgusting.
I don't want anything to do with you, because she
doesn't deserve to have that platform. If she's going to
mock our Lord, she doesn't. And it's not just her.
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Listen to Bill Maher and this. Once you listen to him,
you will know what you are facing in faith. But
listen to this mockery from Bill Maher.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
So the Republicans have really found their sweet spot. Loves Jesus,
hates democracy, and I gotta say, this guy owns it.
I guess we're we're just getting to know him. So
he's on the shows and they're asking him about him.
He said today or maybe yesterday, said pick up a
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Bible off the shelf. I didn't have one, but I
get that and read it. That's my worldview. That's what
he's saying. Talk to the hand, the one with the
nail in it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I'm proud of my Christian worldview. He just mocked the crucifixion.
He's mocking the resurrection. Look, folks, mockery and jokes, that's
how it begins. It's the speck of rust that bubbles
under the paint. So don't let it get out of hand.
Do what I said. Talk about your faith. Make people
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look at that and go wow. Off limits. Kind of
gross doesn't belong on TV. God isn't calling you to passivity.
Faith is a team effort. If you falter, think of
Peter and return stronger. Be the rock. I'm telling you,
our faith is what will bring us together. It will
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heal this country. Good things will happen. God knows he's watching.
He's not going to let us fall away. He's going
to look for the one. He'll leave the ninety nine
and he'll find the one. Make sure you are not
blocking God. Let the mustard seed grow. I know it,
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I've lived it, and it's a beautiful experience and I
appreciate you letting me share it with you today. So
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Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have a blessing,
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We like to get
into some great debates on this program about where the
world is heading, and generally that means politically, but what
about faith. We see the anti Semitism, the attacks on Jews.
A Jewish man was just killed at a Palestinian rally
in California and it barely made the news. Some media
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outlets had headlines like Jewish man fell and died at
pro Palestine rally, fell and died. The man was struck
with a bullhorn, not to the ground, and succumbed to
his injuries. That's murder, folks, But it's not the narrative
the news likes doesn't help the Democrats, like the George
(00:44):
Floyd story. No headlines then that said man dies of
fentanyl poisoning after George Floyd died, No outrage over drugs,
no real investigation into why this is happening. George Floyd murdered.
But the Jewish man attacked at the rally, fell and died.
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There's no one to pay groups to march for the
Jewish Jewish people, no one to riot and loot after
the death of a Jew or a Christian. But a
lot of people have been paid and transported to anti
Semitic rallies. In fact, these people can be busted into
the Capitol, they can go up to the White House
and they can try to push through the White House
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gates and vandalize the pillars with red paint and the
media will remain silent. But not if you dare say
you're a Christian, if you read the Bible, if you
share the good word of the Lord, then you should
expect a spiritual battle to begin. And in America, folks,
it's here, that's right. There's a strong push to mock
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and embarrass and destroy Christians. We know this because we
have a new Speaker of the House, Speaker Mike Johnson.
And guess what he dared to say. His worldview comes
from the Bible. Listen to him here it is.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Someone asked me today in the media. They said, it's curious.
People are curious, what does Mike Johnson think about any
issue under the sun. I said, well, go pick up
a Bible off your shelf and read it. That's my worldview.
That's what I believe.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's funny because it didn't even phaze me. And there
are different responses to this, but people went completely nuts.
So if you're a person of faith, you just get this.
I mean, regardless of your faith, you just get it.
If you are a believer, you let you lead your
life by what you've learned through faith, and you understand
what the speaker is saying here, you get it. For Christians,
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that's the Gospel, and that's where most Christians base their worldview.
It's normal. It's not radical, it's not crazy, not dangerous,
it's normal. And I say most Christians because there are
Christians who do not spend that much time in the Word.
They don't study the Word, they don't apply the Word
of God to their lives, but they believe in Jesus.
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I've been there and that's why I wanted to start
this podcast by sharing my own faith journey with you.
So you know, I get it. But I also see
how the mainstream media desperately wants to erase God and
how vulnerable we are to those attacks. They're actually moving
forward with that. But don't be deceived, folks. God is
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letting them. Yeah, He's got this, there's nothing out of
his control. But see, here's the thing. He sees that
we are actually allowing the hands and feet of hands
and feet of God to be bound here in the world,
and I'm going to explain what that means. But first
so you understand where I'm coming from with this, So
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it's not just like you're hearing me say the media
is doing this and you don't really believe it. I
want you to listen to Jensaki, and let's remember when
you listen to this. This is the former White House
Press secretary to a president who is supposedly a Catholic.
And she was even out there talking talking about him
(04:01):
being a Catholic. Oh yes, cathol, Yes, yes, yes, he's
a Catholic. Watch her mock the speaker's faith and to
be honest, just Christians in general. Here it is you
heard that right.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
The Bible doesn't just inform his worldview, it is his worldview.
In fact, during his first speech in his new job,
Johnson suggested that his election as Speaker was an act
of God. Talk about a bit of a humble brag there.
So what exactly has God apparently called on Mike Johnson
to do well? His views on policy are essentially what
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you'd expect from a religious fundamentalist. They're more divisive than
there divine.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Listen She's not saying this because she's afraid of Speaker Johnson.
She's afraid of the Christian voice, and she wants you
to be embarrassed. She believes that she can use her
bully pulpit to make Christians feel ashamed of who they are.
Every good leftist journalist wants to destroy something they view
as being on the right. She wants to take credit
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for this one. She wants to take credit for making
Christians hide their faith, make them deny Jesus, make it
so that no one knows they worshiped the Lord, or worse,
make them stop believing themselves. And she thinks she has
that power. You may be asking what true Christian would
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allow that, Well, every Christian's on a journey. So that's
why I want to share a little bit of mine.
I obviously, when I was running, openly told people that
I lead my life by my Christian faith. But when
I was a kid, I was what some might call
a Christor. I don't know if you guys have ever
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heard this term. It's people who go to church on
Christmas and Easter. I was a christ I don't know why.
I don't know why. My parents just decided that we
would go to church on Christmas and Easter, and maybe
we went a couple of other times, but that was
the majority of my faith. In my uppers. My grandparents
on both sides were incredibly involved in the church, especially
on my dad's side, but we just weren't regular church goers.
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When I went to my grandparents' house, I was always
taken to church, and I remember my grandmother being very
involved in the church, and there was just something inside
of me that felt this overwhelming piece there, like I
liked it. I wanted to be there. And even so,
even though I wasn't in the church at home, it
was like Christ was present in me. I just knew it.
(06:30):
I didn't have the backstory though, I didn't know why
he was there. I remember when I was like eleven
years old, my parents took me to church and I
was baptized in front of the whole church, and like, remember,
I'm only there on Christmas and Easter. So this is
not like what you're if you grew up in the church.
It's not like what you know. So imagine not knowing
anybody there, standing up in front of the whole church
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and getting baptized and you're like eleven, right, so I
had no idea what the whole christ backstory was. I
didn't really know what I was doing. I didn't have
a full understand of the connection to God, being saved,
fully dedicating my life to Christ. And that's where they
get you. When you're right on the edge, you feel
God in your soul, but you don't have the backstory.
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That's where the naysayers can tear someone's interest in faith down.
And if the media can make Christianity bad, if Christian
groups can be listed as hate groups, then those folks
that are just on that edge, those folks that are
interested in faith, well, they think they can get you
to walk away. And without faith, where are people. They're
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left searching for a cause and an identity, and let's
face it, they're vulnerable. We weren't a praying family growing up.
I know some of you that's shocking and for others
that's where you are right now. I get it. Growing up,
we just didn't turn to prayer. It was just not
part of my family. And I remember when I started
going to church and people are like, oh, pray pray
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for this, pray for that. I'm like, Wow, it doesn't
strike me because that's not how I was raised at
that time. That was shocking to me. Like, for example,
if someone was sick or something, or like I needed
help solving a problem, I didn't think I could go
to God. I just felt like I was alone. And
that's the worst place to be for so many people,
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thinking that you're doing this all in your own by yourself,
in your own power, you have no one else to
go to. And I'm telling you this because if faith
is second nature to you and it's just always been
a part of your life, you may not realize how
precarious of a face situation we're in in this country.
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When I was in middle school, my parents would occasionally
have to go out of town for a conference or something,
and we had this babysitter that would come and she
was this older lady and you know, now she's probably
my age, but in my mind she was like in
her seventies. You know, who knows, But when you're little,
everybody seems really old. So she was really old and
very faithful. And I didn't remember. I didn't grow up
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in this type of household where he just prayed over everything.
And her name was Levn, and I remember I came
home from school one day and I had this terrible headache.
And this is going to seem so normal to so
many of you, but just so you can understand what
it's like when it's not normal to you, she put
her hand on my head and she was like, I,
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Lord Jesus, I pray over this child that the pain
would go away. And I was like, what is happening?
So I'm in this vulnerable spot where pretty much I
know in my heart at that time, somebody could have
gone to me and said, this is nuts. Get away
from these Christians. They're crazy, and it would have implanted
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a seed in me that could have taken. They could
have sprouted, but I already had a seed inside of me.
It was a tiny seed. It was a tiny seed
of faith. It was a mustard seed, and it just
had to grow. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll
continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So my first
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experience kind of thinking about that and exploring faith really
was at my grandmother's funeral. My grandmother's funeral. This was
my dad's mom. Like I said, they were very involved
in their church, and at that point they were out
in Arizona and they were at one of those really
big churches where they had It was funny because my
parents grew up in a church where you only sang
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like traditional hymns from the hymnal. And then my grandmother
went to this church where, you know, now they have
like modern Christian music, and it was horrifying to my
mother and she's like, oh, my goodness, how are we
going to go to this funeral where this church is
going to play this rock music. And we went and
it was a huge church. And my dad, who was
this phenomenal public speaker, he was just like, I really
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looked up to my dad and my aunt. So my
dad and his sister were both these incredible influencers in
their own space. She was in sales, he was in steel.
They had risen up and given speeches everywhere. And they
both turned to me, and I was in college. They
both turned to me and they said, yeah, there's no
way we're not speaking at this funeral. We can't do it.
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You're going to give the eulogy. And I was like, what,
I'm twenty, you know, and so but I knew, I
knew that I saw the pain in both of their eyes.
They just couldn't do it. And so it was like
a calling for me. Right at that moment, I said, Okay,
I'm going to do this, and I sat down and
I went through with my sister all of our memories
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and I gave the speech about my grandmother. And as
we were walking out, the pastor stopped me and he said,
can I convince you to go to seminary? And it
was like this moment where I thought, please do not
let my mom have heard that, because she will just
laugh about the thought of me going to seminary. And I,
you know, I said, no, I've never thought about that.
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I was in college as it was. And I walked away,
but it started something in me like I just want
to know more about this. I couldn't. I couldn't even
comprehend going to seminary because I hadn't even opened a
Bible and really read through it. And when I did
open a Bible, it was so intimidating, like how do
you know what this Bible actually means? How can I
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put these words into a context that I understand? So
I kind of put that off, put off faith again.
That was another opportunity, but I put it off again.
And then when I was gosh thirty two, I just
had my oldest daughter. She was six months old at
the time, and a girlfriend came to me and she said, hey,
have you ever heard of this thing. It's called Bible
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Study Fellowship And I said no, and she said, well,
they just started a kid's program and they're taking kids
six months old, and since Lark's six months old, I
think you should start going. And I'm kind of one
of those obedient friends, and so, without really putting a
lot of thought into this, I was like, yeah, why not,
I'll go, of course. So I go to the first
Bible Study fellowship and it's like intense. This woman takes
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me aside and you like, get the introduction. Okay, you've
entered this I will study fellowship. And it was like
you're going to have an hour of homework every night
of the week. And I have this baby, and I'm like,
really out of school and I'm thirty two. I haven't
been in school in a long time. I haven't had
homework in a long time. And I'm intimidated. And I
come home and I said to my husband, she said, well,
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what was the Bible study like? And I'm like it
sounds horrible. I mean, we have to do all this homework,
we have to learn about the Bible, and then we
have to go in every week and talk about the
homework that we did, like have an open discussion on it.
And I don't know the Bible, so the thought of
going in there and reading this and then trying to
talk about it makes me feel like an idiot. And
he was like, so are you just not going to
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do it? And every part of me wanted to say, yeah, no,
I'm out, but that mustard seed said no, you're not.
You're going. You're going to do this. And so as
I went into this and I started to explore the
Bible and I started listen to what the other people said.
They said, you know, as you get deeper into faith,
your life will change. You're going to your friends will change,
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the things that you do will change. Tragedy will strike
you and you'll look at it differently. And at the time,
I remember thinking like, I don't want tragedy to strike me.
I'm going to bow out of this. But what I
realized in that is that tragedy is going to strike
all of us. We're all going to have something hard
and without faith, I just don't know how you get
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through that. So I started hearing about these miracles, not
in the Bible. You're hearing about miracles in the Bible
at the same time. The Bible is like this book
that says, these things happened while Jesus was here, when
God was talking to Moses, when God was speaking into
the prophets, these things were happening. But they are happening still.
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And I want to remind you when I said, my
first inclination didn't used to be to pray when something happened.
And I will never forget one of the stories that
one of the women told. She said, we were at
the beach, and so we live on the west side
of Michigan, right at Lake Michigan, and everybody goes to
the beach in the summer, and the lake is a
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very scary place because it pulls people under, and we
have a lot of drownings every year. And she said
her son was just a child like four, playing in
the water, and all of a sudden he was gone.
And she said, no matter where we looked, we couldn't
see him. And they were there with her sister and
so cousins and dads, they all were looking out in
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the water, and she said, we all immediately fell to
our knees on the beach and we prayed. And I
remember thinking that would not be my first reaction, that
would not be where I would go with that, because
I would be so desperate to find my child. And
the rescuers were out in the lake, and within fifteen
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minutes they found the boy on the top of the water,
face down, and they pulled him out and they dragged
him to the beach and they started to do CPR.
And it had been fifteen minutes. They didn't think that
there was a chance. This family never faltered. They never
sat there and said, what's happening, what's happening. They prayed,
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they held hands together, they sat on their knees, they
knelt down, They prayed to God save this boy. The
boy came to he never had any long term problems
from this. As they were walking from the hospital that day,
one of the rescuers stopped her and he said, we've
never seen that happen before. Drowning victims don't float, they
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don't sit on the top of the water. Usually we
don't find a child, we find a body. And that
was a moment where I was like, these miracles happen
every day, and we see them and we feel them,
and we don't talk about them in a biblical way,
but they are happening and they are amazing. And that
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mustard seed that began to grow into so a faith
that I needed so badly and didn't know. And within
a few years of this so I ended up staying
in Bible study fellowship for seven years. And through that
time I did have tragedy. We lost a baby. I
lost a baby at eighteen weeks and I remember coming
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home from the hospital. You know, we went through we
went through labor, we said goodbye? How did the baby
said goodbye? Coming home? And I'm just gonna be really
honest with you, guys. I know that for men this
is hard, but I think that for a woman, there's
so many feelings. There's this feeling that you failed somehow,
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this baby you were growing inside of you, You messed
it up. That baby didn't make it. What did I
do wrong? Why did this happen? And as I was
sitting there and I'm on my knees and I'm saying,
why did this happen? What did I do wrong? God?
I felt this just presence around my shoulders, like you
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know what You're gonna be fine. I've got you. I
can't explain it anyway other than that, And this amazing
piece came over me and I thought, how do people
do it without faith? And then a few years later,
so then we had another baby, and actually three more babies.
So I have my oldest, my middle and twins. And
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at the time the twins are too and I'm thirty eight,
and I go in for my regular checkup and the
doctor says, we're all worried about this lump here, and
the next thing I know is cancer, And again tragedy struck.
And I remember leaving the doctor's office and sitting in
the car and crying on the way home, and this
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sense of do not cry. We've got this. I'm with you.
We are on a journey, and we are on that
journey together. And never again did I have fear through
that entire journey, and never again did I cry through
that entire journey, through surgery, through everything. He was there
with me. Prayer works for those who believe God is able,
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and that was something I learned in Bible study too.
One of these women, she said to me, you got
to understand that prayer is powerful, but prayer is only
powerful if you believe God can do what you're asking.
And it makes me think of Luke eight forty three
through forty eight. You remember the woman who was bleeding.
Let me read this to you. Now, there was a
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woman who had been suffering from hemorrhages for twelve years,
and though she has spent all she had on physicians,
no one could cure her. She came up behind Jesus
and touched the fringe of his clothes, and immediately her
hemorrhage stopped. And then Jesus asked, who touched me? When
all didn't Peter said, Master, the crowd surrounds you and
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press in on you. The crowd surrounds you and press
in on you. But Jesus said, someone touched me. For
I noticed the power gone out from me. Then the
woman saw that she could not remain hidden. She came
trembling and falling down before him, and she declared in
the presence of the people why she had touched him
and how she had been immediately healed. And he said
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to her, daughter, your faith has made you well. Go
in peace. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue
next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Prayer is not magic,
It's not a wishless it is a personal relationship with
our creator, who is greater than all and loves us
more than we can ever understand. It wasn't the fact
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that he had to turn and heal her. She didn't
have to ask God. His power went out to her
because she believed that if she just touched him, that
power was there. And I started to engage in this
and understand this and realize this, and my girls were
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realizing this, And I can tell you from my own
experience some of the things that we went through and
why faith is so important to me and why faith
is something that I hold onto and that I can
tell you is bigger than me little things. My oldest
was a thumbsucker. Really struggled with it. And if you're
a parent, and I mean, I know that can sound silly,
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but if you're a parent and you have a child
that is sucking their thumb, you're at your wits end.
How do you get them to stop? And so we
talked about it. We talked about it. She said, I
want to stop, but I just can't. And I said, well,
why don't we pray about it? And you know what
this is a really big moment for me because I
really hadn't done this. I had never openly talked about prayer.
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I had never talked about prayer for something specific to
see God working in that way. I had asked for comfort,
I had asked for healing in a way. But I
had never had a bold like this has to change,
help us do this prayer. And it wasn't me. It
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was Larkin, my oldest, at like four years old. She
sat down and she prayed, and she took her blanket
that night because her blanket was the kind of the reason.
If she could have that blank in her hand, she
was going to suck her thumb. She on her own
after this prayer, took that blanket. It was like she
knew God told her put the blanket away. That was
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the last night she ever sucked her thumb. That was it.
It was over two days later the blanket came back out.
She never sucked her thumb again. My middle daughter, she
used to have not night terror. She used to have
fever hallucinations, which I had no idea that was a thing.
So parents, if you have a baby and you don't
know that night or fever hallucinations are a thing. She
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would be eighteen months old and you could see her
looking around the room, screaming in terror. And until she
could actually verbalize, I didn't know what was happening. So
she would say, I see the scary faces everywhere, which
a side that was terrifying. But she would go through
this and like screaming, and it would be a nightmare.
And so we said, okay, we're going to pray to
Jesus that he release you from this, that he is there,
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and she would say, Jesus is here, you leave me alone.
And that was the last time she ever that one
time when we held hands and we said, in the
name of Jesus, let these these fever hallucinations leave. They
never returned. So what's harder? Is it harder if you're
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in the situation where you've always known, if you have
always known that Jesus was there? Is it harder right
now in America if you're someone who was saved as
an older person? I mean, I know what it is
to live on two different sides of the faith spectrum,
So I want all the time, is it harder to
be my girls who've grown up reading scripture and talking
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to Jesus every day and seeing his miracles and his
love and being told that their faith makes them bad?
Is that hard to suddenly see someone say your faith
makes you bad. Wait, I've seen these miracles, I've seen
this love. How can you tell me that my faith
makes me bad? They hear these comments, they hear these comments.
It's about speaker Johnson and them calling him a Christian nationalist.
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They know people say he hates rather than he loves.
The Christianity they know is filled with love. But what
will have been when they are told that their beliefs
are not socially acceptable? Will they be strong or will
they be Peter and deny their faith? Remember that moment
(24:46):
when Judas had just betrayed Jesus. Jesus had actually just
told Peter he would deny him, and Peter was like,
ooh what No, there's no way, it's impossible. So then
they go out and they about this. The disciples have
no idea what's about to happen. They're with their leader.
They believe he's going to be king. They're with the
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guy who's going to lead the world. Okay, so they're safe.
They are on the Mount of Olives. They don't know
Judas is a jerk. You know that he's gone to
the other guys and said, hey, let's take him. I've
got I need some silver, let's do this thing. So
they feel good about this. Peter's on the top of
the world. He's with the king of kings. He's not
going to deny him. All of a sudden, the priests come,
(25:30):
Judas comes, he betrays him, They take Jesus. They're questioning him.
And what happens. What happens in this moment where society's like,
this guy is bad, Jesus is bad, You're bad for
being around him. Does Peter hold strong? No, Peter falters.
And that's an interesting part of the Bible because it's
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a moment where we can all go, oh my gosh,
I've been a Peter. I know exactly what it's So, Matthew,
this is Matthew twenty six sixty nine through seventy five.
Now Peter sat outside the courtyard and a servant girl
came to him, saying, you also were with Jesus of Galilee.
But that's not what Peter says. Peter denies it before
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them all, saying I do not know what you were saying.
And when he had gone out to the gateway. Another
girl saw him and said to those who were with
who were there, this fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth.
But he denied with an oath, saying I do not
know the man. And there's an exclamation point there, so
we know he was adamant he did not know Jesus.
(26:38):
And a little bit later those who stood up and
came by and said to Peter, surely you are one
of them, for your speech betrays you. Then he gets
like ticked right. He begins to curse and swear, and
he's like, I do not know this guy. I do
not know the man again with an exclamation point. Then
what do we hear? A rooster crow? Peter remembers the
(27:00):
words of Jesus, who said, before the rooster crows, you
will deny me three times. And Peter goes out and
he weeps. He's just so upset about it. How could
this happen? But that is such a perfect example of
how this happens. And if you have a strong foundation,
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you come back to faith. Maybe this will happen to
my girls, and I hope they have a strong foundation
that will bring them back like it did Peter Jesus
called Peter the Rock. Peter's considered the founder of the
Roman Catholic Church, which means his foundation in faith won out,
which means as humans, we can falter and we can
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still return. And I want my girls to return to
their foundation rather than be drawn to a passing cause
by a media who wants to tell them that Christians
are bad. I was asked to deny my faith on
the campaign trail. This was a common thing. This is
a common thing with politicians. What's the balance? How do
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you thread the needle? You might say denying. You know,
we can be strong, we can deny a maybe deny
is a too strong overword. Should we deny? I don't know. No,
this is denying. If you cannot stand firmly in your faith,
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it's denying. And you can deny and you can come
back to faith with your strong foundation, but you have
to understand that you're being asked to deny. I was asked.
I was sometimes told by Christians and not Christians. When
I first started campaigning. This is like really early on. Okay,
so I don't even know what I'm doing it. I'm
just sitting down and talking to people and telling them
(28:47):
why I think that we can make great changes in Michigan.
And the woman says, tell me your story. And I
tell this long story about what led me here, and
I said, and my husband and I sat down and
pray to the decision. And then I go on to
talk and she stops me at the end of it,
and she said, don't ever do that. And I couldn't
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even remember what she was talking about. I said, what,
don't ever say? You prayed? And I was kind of
taken aback and said, what do you mean, don't ever
do that? People will be so turned off, you won't
get the young people. You cannot tell people you're a Christian.
I'm a Christian. This is her, I'm a Christian. But
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I would never tell anyone. Wow. I just immediately had
the sense like, no, I'm not okay with that. I'm
not going to do that. But I wonder how often
I didn't say what I wanted to say because that
woman was in my head. How often did I have
a Peter moment, even though my foundation was strong. How
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often did I let it make me question whether I
could say in this country that I'm a Christian, a
country that was founded on Christian values. I was afraid.
I was told when I went to the east side
of the state there was a high population of Muslims
and Jews, take your cross off. I didn't. I'm not
going to I had one donor one supporter. We met often.
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He was a Muslim and he was very open about
his Muslim faith. He would have prayer beads in his
hand every time we talked. He was very much open
about the importance of his faith. But he didn't hesitate
to sit me down. After I was at an event
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where some of the people with me said, we're talking
about their Christian values, and he said, don't ever talk
about your Christian values. It is such a turn off
to us. And I've thought about that so many times
since then, because what if I were to go to
someone in the Muslim community that was running for office
and I said, in this country, we don't want to
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know your Muslim outrageous? That would be outrageous. I would
be I would just be toasted. Everybody in the media,
everybody in the political world would say, how could you
do that? But for some reason, it's okay to do
that to Christians. So let me ask you something, What
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does that mean for Christians? In this country. If Christians
can be so persecuted, if they can be told not
to speak about their faith, what does that mean for Christians? Well,
I'm going to tell you it means nothing. And you
might go, what are you talking about. You just did
this whole podcast. Now you're telling me it means nothing.
It means nothing because God is bigger than the people
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who want you to hide, to feel shame, to apologize
for your faith or your reliance on God's word to
guide you. It means nothing. God is bigger than that.
But the spiritual battle is strong on us soil today.
It's stronger than it has been in the past. And
those people who are young in faith, those people that
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I talk to you about the mes, the people who
are exploring faith, they could be driven away without the
hands and feet of God speaking boldly the truth. If
that's you, then do it. Share the good word, stand
up to the bullies. That's why I tell you the
hands and feet, the hands and feet of God are bound.
(32:26):
We are allowing them to be bound because we are
allowing Yahoo's like Jensaki to go out there and mock
Christianity and not say, hey, you can say whatever you
want in the United States. But we're gonna stop listening
to you because you don't get to bully us.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Do that.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Stop listening to those people talk about your faith and
make it look Make those people who are young in
faith look at Jensaki and go, man, you're gross, You're disgusting.
I don't want anything to do with you, because she
doesn't deserve to have that platform. If she's going to
mock our Lord, she doesn't. And it's not just her.
(33:03):
Listen to Bill Maher and this. Once you listen to him,
you will know what you are facing in faith. But
listen to this mockery from Bill Maher.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
So the Republicans have really found their sweet spot. Loves Jesus,
hates democracy, and I gotta say, this guy owns it.
I guess we're we're just getting to know him. So
he's on the shows and they're asking him about him.
He said today or maybe yesterday, said pick up a
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Bible off the shelf. I didn't have one, but I
get that and read it. That's my worldview. That's what
he's saying. Talk to the hand, the one with the
nail in it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I'm proud of my Christian worldview. He just mocked the crucifixion.
He's mocking the resurrection. Look, folks, mockery and jokes, that's
how it begins. It's the speck of rust that bubbles
under the paint. So don't let it get out of hand.
Do what I said. Talk about your faith. Make people
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look at that and go wow. Off limits. Kind of
gross doesn't belong on TV. God isn't calling you to passivity.
Faith is a team effort. If you falter, think of
Peter and return stronger. Be the rock. I'm telling you,
our faith is what will bring us together. It will
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heal this country. Good things will happen. God knows he's watching.
He's not going to let us fall away. He's going
to look for the one. He'll leave the ninety nine
and he'll find the one. Make sure you are not
blocking God. Let the mustard seed grow. I know it,
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I've lived it, and it's a beautiful experience and I
appreciate you letting me share it with you today. So
thank you for sticking with me through this podcast. Remember
we're at the Tutor diixonpodcast dot com. Make sure you
tell your friends Tutordison podcast dot com. Check us out
there or on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get
your podcasts, and join us the next time on the
(35:13):
Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have a blessing,
Host
Buck Sexton
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