December 29, 2025 • 32 mins
Jeffrey Lord speaks with U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations for Management and Reform Jeff Bartos about sweeping efforts to overhaul the UN bureaucracy and restore accountability to international institutions. Bartos details historic budget cuts, workforce reductions, and why President Trump’s leadership has created a rare opportunity for meaningful reform. The discussion also covers Middle East peace efforts, Israel, global security challenges, and why the United States remains the indispensable nation despite persistent international opposition. A candid look at diplomacy, reform, and what real leadership looks like on the world stage.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, This is Jeffrey, Lord of the American Spectator
in Newsmax, sitting in for our friend Sean Hannity. You
can reach us in here at eight hundred ninety four
one seven three two six or eight hundred nine four
to one, Sean. And we have a great guest coming
up right now is Jeff Bardos, who happens this is
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a Pennsylvania kind of today. I guess he's also a
Pennsylvanian like myself. He is an American real estate developer,
a lawyer, and a diplomat, and he's currently serving, by
the appointment of President Trump as the United States Ambassador
to the United Nations for Management and Reform since this
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past year of twenty twenty five. So Jeff, good to
talk to you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My friend, Jeffrey. It's always great to speak with you.
And I think we have a nice tradition at the
end of calendar years where we get on the phone
two Pennsylvanians. At this point though, two Pennsylvanians sitting in Manhattan,
and I don't know, there's something wrong with that we
gotta do something about. But greeting greetings from the East
Side in Turtle Bay, and I hope you and your
family are well and all your listeners had a wonderful Christmas.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Exactly, Well, thank you very much. You know, I was
really intrigued. I didn't realize you were over there at
the UN doing this and Jeff's background in business and
politics and all of that sort of thing, and now
he is adding diplomacy to the resume and tell us
a little bit about what your UN job and tails.
I'm sort of intrigued.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, it's the honor of a lifetime to serve President
Trump and the American people as the representative of the
United States to the UN for management and reform. And
in my hearing before the United States Senate Chairman Rich said,
that's a little oxymoronic management reform and the UN. How
how are you going to how are you going to
tackle this? Which is a great question. So we I
lead a terrific team of very skilled experts who comb
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through the gigantic breocracy and budget that is the United Nations.
And with President Trump's leadership, and the way I answered
the question during my set of hearing is that President
Trump his leadership provided a unique window of opportunity, maybe
a once in a generation or once in fifty year,
eighty year opportunity to bring real, meaningful, durable, consequential reform
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to this gigantic bureaucracy that is the United Nations. And
since we hit the ground running, I mean, we have
a great team, many of whom I think you know.
Ambassador Mike Waltz, Ambassador Tammy Bruce, Ambassador Jennifer Lisetta, Ambassador
Dan de Greya, and myself. We all have different portfolios.
Mike's our chief of mission, Tammy is our deputy chief
of Mission. Jennifer handles the Security Council, Dan has the
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Economic and Social Council, and I have management and reform.
And we've been sent up here by the President, by
the Secretary and by our peers to come up here
and make sure this place runs better. And so I
spend my day and my night and many nights with
my team getting this place fit for purpose, get it
back to basics. I'm tomorrow we will gavel in. We've
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only been here one hundred days. We all got up
here in mid September. Tomorrow we will gabble through the
largest cut to the UN's regular budget in history. Maybe
in the time that nobody can remember a bigger cut
to the budget. And we also so a fifteen percent
cuts to the budget and a elimination of twenty six
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hundred UN bureaucratic posts, which is unprecedented and only happens
because of President Trump's leadership, his vision. He when he
spoke at the UN in September, he said, the UN
has great potential. It's not living up to that potential.
And we are executing the President's vision. And like I said,
it's the honor of a lifetime to serve the President
and the American people in this in this work.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, I think that is really really great. I'd be
curious to know. I means, as we speak, we are
I'm seeing that President Trump is going to receive the
Israel Prize for Peace and things are just not doing
so well over there. How does that affect what you
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do and what the UN does, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, the President's incredible leadership, his visionary leadership also allowed
that the Charmel shake deal and the twenty point peace
Plan that immediately saw the release of the twenty living hostages.
And at this point there is one hostage remains. When
the remains of one hostage right that have not been
released by Hamas and bipalaestis pulcinating Islamic jihad. So we
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have to get one. One family is still without their
son and that is unacceptable. But the President's twenty point
peace Plan was put into a Security Council resolution, again
a first of its kind, with the Board of Peace
and with the International Stabilization Force. And again it's the
President's leadership, his vision that allowed all of this to
come together. It would there just wouldn't be peace. He
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is the president of piece. We see it every day
and it's it's so much. I have to say, it's
fun to serve in this administration because every day we're
achieving goals and objectives that really before the president was
sworn in just people said it was impossible. And as
he said in as inaugural address, the impossible is what
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we do. And because of that leadership, we're able to
achieve a lot of things here at the UN that
previously people thought was just were just unattainable.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, I really do think that the fact that he
was not a career politician. If he spent any time
in Washington, it was to see somebody and get out,
And so I do think that that gives him a
particular perspective on dealing with government, in this case the
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United Nations that other presidents wouldn't have because they are
so used to the you know, the being involved from
the governmental and political aspect of things. And in particular,
I think the UN is an interesting place because you've
got all these countries from all over the place, and
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you know, history is filled with all these episodes of
American ambassadors to the UN getting into clashes with the
Soviet Union or others, and you know, just just sort
of amazing thing. And I think, you know, you really
are there at a very interesting time. And jeff I
would also ask, as someone who writes, I hope you're
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taking notes.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
We're working really hard. The you know, the every day
is a new challenge. And as I mentioned, you know
there's this is the unique window of opportunity in this
time to and there's hunt Jeffrey. There's one hundred and
ninety three countries in the United Nations. It's a staggering number.
And the way the budget works, if you can believe this,
whether you whether you contribute thirty seven thousand dollars or
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twelve billion dollars, you get the same boat in the
General Assembly, and of course we have the Security Council.
So it's a it's a governance structure that we set up,
you know, back in nineteen forty five, nineteen forty six, right,
but it really is it needs major reforms, and we're
executing against that every day. I mean we, like I said,
we're going to gabble through the budget tomorrow and then
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that sets up a huge reform opportunities in twenty twenty six,
which we're already starting to execute upon and starting to
work with. And everybody wants to see the United States
and everybody is listening to President Trump and it's again
it's an honor to have the opportunity to serve him
and the American people for us looking ahead, the President
said this in his remarks. The UN has great potential,
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and it is the world needs a place where everybody
can talk. And Ambassador Waltz talks about this all the
time that we'd much rather that place be in the
United States than in Moscow or Beijing or some other place.
And so it has a real role. It has gone,
like so many big organizations, the UN has become bloated.
It tries to do everything and you know this from
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your busines this world. If you try to do everything,
it's impossible to do everything well and so you end
up doing mediocre or worse and a lot of things.
And we are just guiding with our business experience and
with the President's direction, where we are bringing this place.
We're bringing these reforms which will hopefully get it fit
the purpose back to basics, promote international peace and security.
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And you got right now the President is settling conflicts
around the world basically himself and the small team. It'd
be great if the UN could could be right there
helping and be a force for good. So that's also
something we're focused on.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Who do you work with in the course of I mean,
what particular countries are there? Some that you are more
obvious allies than others, and others that you just you
can't really get near in a sense.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, we're the largest contributor Americans have since the founding
of the UN. We're the largest contributor to the system,
and we're the most generous nation on earth, and we
tend to work with the other large donor countries. But
of course, in the scope of our work, we work
with almost every country. I mean, of one hundred and
ninety three. I haven't met every country, but you know,
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it's pretty close in one hundred days, and so we
work with everybody. But again, we have been laser focused
on delivering this reform agenda since mid September. And so
when we will take a little breather here, maybe maybe
a couple of days between now and New Year's and
then get right back at it. I guess a week
from today we'll get right back at it. So yeah,
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but we I mean, Jeffrey, it's come visit any time.
It's a fascinating place.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, yeah, I'd like to do that. That might go
on my bucket list. Well. I spent some time courtesy
of my friends at Newsmax in Israel this summer. I
think it was in August for a week and wow,
truly an amazing place to see. And you know, I
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have first of all that, and I was saying to people,
you know, as Americans, you talk about, say the Pilgrims
in sixteen twenty, I think that's a long time ago.
Then you're walking around Jerusalem and they're telling you that
something was three thousand years old and that streets were
put in by the Romans and all of this kind
of thing. It really is an amazing thing, but it
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also gives you the impression of how hyper sensitive relations are.
And they pointed out to me in one part of
our tour, there was a hillside that was just on
the other side of the Israeli border, and below it,
on the Israeli side was a soccer field where kids
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had been playing soccer, and all of a sudden, gunfire
comes from the hill in Lebanon and killed some kids.
You know, it just takes your breath away at the
kind of brutality that can be found over there and
how much work needs to be done, which you know
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President Trump was doing just today.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yes, with all of this, was that your first trip?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
That was my first trip?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Wow. So when we're not on the radio though, you
could certainly tell me about it now, but I would
love to hear more about it. We just marked the
fiftieth anniversary of Embassador Daniel Patrick Mooyne, then Senator Daniel
Patrick Jinian's remarkable explanation of vote when the United States
cast its vote and then vote and then explained why
against the outrageous and shameful Zionism as Racism resolution from
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nineteen seventy five. And those remarks that the Ambassador in
Mestered Morny hand delivered back in nineteen seventy five ring
true today. The level of anti West, anti American, anti Israel, right,
it's all kind of wrapped up into one that still
exists here and it's something that we fight every day.
We're committed to stamping out this anti West, anti American,
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anti Israel bias that courses through too many parts of
the United Nations. And it's a this is not something
that's going to happen overnight, but we are again focused,
and we have the resources and the support to get
it done, and it just has to happen. But you're
when we took our first trip to Israel back in
twenty thirteen, my goal for our girls was to see
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that Israel was a tiny country in a tough neighborhood
and in spite of, or maybe because of, those dynamics,
the Israeli people lived their lives with great joy and
great focus and great purpose. And so you have national service,
which is a unique aspect, not singular, but very unique
amongst countries. And so it's a special place and they're
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a very special important ally of the United States. So yeah,
We work very close you mentioned before, We work very
closely with our allies, not only in the Middle East,
but across Europe and really across the globe.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Right. Well, that's good to know, you know. I sometimes
wonder if the United Nations did not exist and there
was a move to set it up, now, would this
be anywhere near the same? Would would we still? Would
we be having worse problems now? Would would there even
be a United Nations headquarters in New York? Would there
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be too many people out there that say, no, no, no,
not with the Americans, uh, et cetera. But it's, uh,
it's very interesting because I think that our enemies so
called out there. It isn't just Israel, it's the West,
It's it's America in particular. I mean, I think we
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have a you know, a target on us all the time,
and you know, too bad in one sense. But boy,
you have to be wary. And I would imagine as
you as you walk around the UN you're you're sensitive
to anything that you can see that that seems like
it's sending a message that things are not very good here.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, if anything gets frustrating during the day, whether it's
across the street, or back here at the Mission. I
I and I've done this a number of times throughout
the last hundred days. I will go down into our
lobby and I get to walk past the American flag
and then portraits of the President, the Vice President, Secretary
of Rubio, and Ambassador Waltz. And then there's most weeks,
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not every week, but most weeks, I have the genuine
privilege and honor to sit behind the placard that says
the United States. And Jeffrey, you and I've known each
other a long time. I can't really describe the feeling
of what it feels like to sit behind the placard
that says the United States, but it is. It will
never get old. It is just a tremendous honor. And
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as much as people may want to pick at us
and do damage to us or try to hurt the
United States, we are the indispensable nation where the indispensable
ally for many many countries, and we try to do it.
I mean, we're the most generous nation on earth. And
the President, yeah, the President has said that, the Secretary
has said that, and we proudly do that. I'll just
give you a quick story of how zany the un
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can get. There was a week, it was a couple
of months ago where the Cubans were running their resolution
that they run every year condemning the United States for
blockading and they call it a blockading and Cuba, which
of course is fundamentally untrue. We send something like six
hundred million dollars of key important humanitarian goods, food, medicine,
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other things to Cuba every year, so that's just fundamentally
untrue what they said. But it was the same week,
in the same week, we were fighting about this in
the General Assembly and trying to get countries to vote
with us because it's just offensive what the Cubans were doing.
And that same week is when Hurricane Melissa hit And
without missing a beat, hey, without missing a beat.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Hey, jeff h I hate to say this, but I'm
getting a hard break. Sign here. We can hold you
over if you'd like to do that or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'll just finish the quick story when we come back.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Sure, okay, great, thank you. All right. This is Jeffrey
Lord from the American Spectator, a Newsmax subbing for our
friend Sean Hannity, and we have our friend Jeff Bardos
on the line, who is the US Ambassador to the
United Nations for Management and Reform, and he's held that
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position since this year, so he's got a lot of
interesting times ahead of me. Jeff, and you were telling
a story there and we interrupted you for a break.
Let me get back to that.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, I was making the point, and thank you again
for having me on. I was making the point that
the United States, for you know, the whole of the
World War post World War two era, the entirety of
the history of the Nations, by far the largest contributor
to the system and the most generous nation on Earth
bar Non. There's not even a close second. And that
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I mean, there's many, many examples of what I just said,
but I'll just give you one, which is the same
week that we were on the floor of the General
Assembly going back and forth with Cuba and some of
their allies on this ridiculous resolution that they run every
year accusing us of embargoing or blockading them, which is absurd.
We do almost six hundred million, as I mentioned before,
a six hundred million of of food, medicine, and other
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humanitarian goods to the Cuban people every year. At that
same week, when we were fighting about the resolution. Hurricane
Melissa hit the Caribbean and did terrible damage, not only
to our friends in Jamaica in other countries where we
have dear friends, but also to Cuba. And I'm very
proud right the State Department leapt into action and had
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a twenty four hour day, seven day a week operations
center to help our friends in the region, including the
Cuban people. We're not friends with the Cuban regime, but
we look after our neighbors here in the Western Hemisphere,
and the Cuban people needed our help and we were there.
And that's the United States is the only nation in
the world that would do that. And we don't even
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really talk about it very much. We just do it
because that's who we are.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, I think that's wow, that's a great story, and
it really is true. The United States does so much
around the world, and yet that is what the bad
guys want to target here. And uh, I think that
that's what makes us an exceptionally dangerous world out there,
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because you've got all kinds of people trying to undermine uh,
you know, good decent human relations between nations and all
of this kind of thing. So I think that uh,
you know, setting a setting a model at the United Nations.
And you know, I'm old enough to remember, you know,
some of these incredible moments. I think it was the
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UH Cuban missile crisis where Ambassador Adlei Stevenson was in
a tete a tete with the Soviet ambassador. Do you,
Ambassador Zarn, deny that the Soviet Union is placed and
it is placing you know, nuclear weapons in Cuba and
all this kind of thing. Don't wait for the translator, sir,
give me your answer now. I mean, lots of lots
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of drama. Who would think that when they add the
UN that the American ambassador whomever that might be, would
be getting all kinds of attention from from the world
and world media and all of this kind of thing
because they do play such an important role in front
of the cameras and behind the cameras. I'm sure as
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you can testify.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yes. And of course you know, Ambassador Walt is our
chief of mission and is a remarkable leader, remarkable, remarkable man.
I mean, you know, his books are extraordinary, his life
history is extraordinary. You know, the first Greenbury elected to
Congress three terms, picked by President Trump to go to
serve in the administration. I mean, it's history is remarkable,
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and we all feed off of that. As I mentioned before,
whenever I'm having a bad day, I walk downstairs. And
it's not that often, by the way, but whenever i
am go down, I walk by the flag, I walk
by the portraits of our leaders, and it's just like
I said, it's it's the honorable lifetime to serve the
president and the American people.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, yeah, well, it certainly is. I did it for
President Reagan and it just was amazing. And you know
what these people are like when the cameras are off,
you know, it's it's always it's always amazing that people
have such negative impressions of them, whether it was President
Reagan then or President Trump now. And yet those who
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really know him and have spent time with him, and
I certainly have been privileged to do that. With President Trump. Wow,
you know what a great guy and a kind and
considerate soul and all this kind of thing. When he
found out that he wanted to know why I was
living in Pennsylvania when I'd had all this career in Washington,
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and I told him, you know, I was taking care
of my mother who was in her nineties at the time,
and he said, well, that tells me everything I need
to know about you. And you know, and periodically I
would he would call, or I would get little handwritten notes,
you know, say hi to Mom, that kind of thing.
But you know, the public image out there with people
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is a difficult thing. And I would imagine it's it's
difficult in dealing with the UN because I would imagine
there are people inside the UN that have negative impressions
of President Trump or America written large and are not
above causing problems.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, but you know, we're focused, right, We have a
clear reform agenda. The President's given us direction. We're executing
on that direction. And I said, I said this to
my wife. Often, I feel like I'm the luckiest and
we're here in New York, so I can say I
feel like I'm the luckiest man on the face of
the earth because I get to serve President Trump. We
work for Secretary of Rubio and Ambassador Waltz and the like.
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We just, you know, I'm very blessed to have this opportunity,
and we're not going to let anybody down. We're going
to execute the President's vision. We're going to execute the
agenda and we're going to get it done for the
President and for the American people.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well that's right now. Is the President coming up there
at any point in the near future.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Or oh gosh, I don't know. I know that every
September you've probably been in New York High Level Week
the President crazy. My first day at the office, I
was sworn in the night before. My very first day
at the office was on the floor of the General
Assembly with the President speaking to during High Level Week.
That was my day one. That was quite a quite
a first day. And uh, we have not slowed down since,
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but that was. Yeah. So High Level Week is usually
the week where all the world leaders come together. And again,
as I mentioned before, we need one place where everybody
in the world can speak to each other, and we
have it here in the United States, right here in
New York. With all the bad sports teams that New
York has.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Oh man, Well, you know, I grew up in Massachusetts,
so I'm a Red Sox fan in perpetuity.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Here and I probably wear my Eagles gear. I go
to Eagles bar as I wear my Philly stuff. So no,
no Flyers, Sixers, you know, there's no uh, there's no,
no hesitancy. You know we're Philly.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well that is great, Jeff, it was.
It was good to talk to you, and I think,
you know, it was a great opportunity for people to
learn of not just what you're doing, but what the
UN is about and all that, because you know, frankly,
it doesn't get the kind of intense coverage that I
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think it it might be better off with, except sometimes
when there was a negative out there and people want
to want to criticize it for you know, this that
or the other thing. But it's it's a it's a
great place. It's a fabulous place. I think the creation
of the United Nations was very, very amazing, and when
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you think back in history of World War One and
then that didn't end well in terms of a permanent peace,
and then World War Two, and finally the message was
received that you had to have some sort of an
institution out there that that could help keep the world
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a peaceful place to live. And I think you know
when they finally got the message with that. I mean
I remember as a kid, as I say, watching Henry
Cabot Lodge and it's interesting and of course Daniel Patrick
moynihan in later years. But boy, they really they really
had some first class US ambassadors there and your team,
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and I think continues that tradition. So that is a
that is a great thing. Well, in the meantime, Jeff,
there's stuff going on in a state known as Pennsylvania.
And I don't know whether you're familiar with Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I think my Twitter it says husband, father or father,
husband and Pennsylvanian. So yes, very familiar with our beloved commonwealth.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Well, they are having we taught on on this show.
Earlier we spoke with day Security, who is going to
be our nominee for governor, And I think it's going
to be a very very interesting race here. Josh Shapiro
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is I think, going to be a tough guy to beat.
But I think he also and this may be an
Achilles heel, I think he also has his eyes set
on twenty twenty eight, so that getting through twenty twenty
six is really to get to twenty twenty eight with him.
I don't know if you have any thoughts on the
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politics of our commonwealth and all that sort of thing, But.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Having run twice, it is a strange for me to
answer this but you know, we don't do electoral politics
right now. We're serving in the executive branch and there
are lots of rules around that. So you know, obviously
I think and Jeff.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Bhil with that, what that really says is you're a diplomat.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yes, I'm proud registered in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania resident, have been
my whole life, and certainly follow things. But you know,
it's it's do you remember we've had some senators in
Pennsylvania over the years, not now, but in the past
who when penn State would play Pitt or the Eagles
would play the Steelers. The ones who were maybe less
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courageous in their expressing their views would say, I'm just
rooting for a good game or I'm reading for Pennsylvania,
and I would always shake my head and say, come on,
just take a side. But when it comes to this stuff,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna demur, and you know,
just simply say that I love our commonwealth. And gosh,
you know, with Pence, he's always been at the forefront.
So it's gonna be an interesting It'll be an interesting
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twenty twenty six. But you know, here, we're just working
every day. And you said something before about about the
UN being a special place, and it is. It needs
massive reform and we're executing on those reforms. And I
think that's the number one message you share with you
and your listeners, that the American taxpayers have not been
regarded as much as they should have been over the years,
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and we are squarely thinking about the taxpayers. We're thinking
about the farmers and the mechanics and the I mean
small business owners, teachers, firefighters, first responders all over Pennsylvania,
all over the nation who pay their hard earned tax dollars.
So some of that can go to international organizations and
they have the absolute right and they should demand of us,
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and we think about it every day that we're here
to make sure every dollar the American taxpayers spend to
the UN sent to the UN is fit for purpose,
well spent and you know, no waste for round abuse.
So that's what that's really you know, you asked me
before what we do. That's that's what me and our team,
that's what we spend a lot of our time on.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Well. I think that's I think that's great and hopefully
and having you here on Sean's show gives a little
more attention to what you guys are involved with in
working at the United Nations and dealing with all the
you know, the problems that I mean, this is not
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going to be a world without problems ever, you know,
you finally get to the point where you realize that.
And so I'm glad you're there. And as I say,
I hope you're taking notes and that there's a book
down the road when you're done, because I do think
that history needs to be told so that people down
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the road who are who are not involved with all
of this or too young or what have you eventually
begin to understand what it is that being at the
UN means and how it is and how you had
to deal with it and all of that kind of thing.
So so thank you very much, mister Jeff Bardos. It
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was great to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Wishing you and your family and your listeners a very
healthy and happy new year, and just thankfully thank you
for having me on and please come over love to
show you around.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
All right, I may, I may. I'll put that on
my bucket list. Okay, thank Jeff, Bye, buye, We'll be
right back. The interviews you won't hear anywhere else every day,
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every day.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
That's what we do. You're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
All right, well, this is Jeffrey Lord sitting in for
our friend Sean Hannity. I want to thank Sean for
the opportunity and our friend Linda of course, and on
we go to twenty twenty six. We are going to
have I think a very interesting year. It's an election year.
President Trump is not on the ballot, but in the
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peculiar way of American off your elections, he will be
on the ballot in the sense that he will be
around the country campaigning for Republican candidates, which is something
that he is very very good at. I'm sure some
of you have been at Trump rallies. I've been in
my fair share. There are quite an amazing experience to see.
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So that will be very interesting these elections. Just by
a little history background, you know me as the history buff.
Two years after a president gets elected, these elections can
tend to go south for the president, whomever that might be.
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It's very bipartisan and president President Reagan won a landslide
in nineteen eighty and two years later got clobbered in
the congressional elections. Then he won again big time, even
bigger in nineteen eighty four, and got smacked a bit
in nineteen eighty six two years after, so that kind
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of thing can, in fact happen. And one of the
good things about President Trump is he is the team
leader for Republicans and conservatives and he will be out
there making the case. So buckle in for twenty twenty six.
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As I say, I'm Jeffrey Lord from Newsmax and the
American Spectator. Have a great time and we will see
you in the new year. Bye bye,
All right, This is Jeffrey, Lord of the American Spectator
in Newsmax, sitting in for our friend Sean Hannity. You
can reach us in here at eight hundred ninety four
one seven three two six or eight hundred nine four
to one, Sean. And we have a great guest coming
up right now is Jeff Bardos, who happens this is
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a Pennsylvania kind of today. I guess he's also a
Pennsylvanian like myself. He is an American real estate developer,
a lawyer, and a diplomat, and he's currently serving, by
the appointment of President Trump as the United States Ambassador
to the United Nations for Management and Reform since this
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past year of twenty twenty five. So Jeff, good to
talk to you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My friend, Jeffrey. It's always great to speak with you.
And I think we have a nice tradition at the
end of calendar years where we get on the phone
two Pennsylvanians. At this point though, two Pennsylvanians sitting in Manhattan,
and I don't know, there's something wrong with that we
gotta do something about. But greeting greetings from the East
Side in Turtle Bay, and I hope you and your
family are well and all your listeners had a wonderful Christmas.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Exactly, Well, thank you very much. You know, I was
really intrigued. I didn't realize you were over there at
the UN doing this and Jeff's background in business and
politics and all of that sort of thing, and now
he is adding diplomacy to the resume and tell us
a little bit about what your UN job and tails.
I'm sort of intrigued.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, it's the honor of a lifetime to serve President
Trump and the American people as the representative of the
United States to the UN for management and reform. And
in my hearing before the United States Senate Chairman Rich said,
that's a little oxymoronic management reform and the UN. How
how are you going to how are you going to
tackle this? Which is a great question. So we I
lead a terrific team of very skilled experts who comb
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through the gigantic breocracy and budget that is the United Nations.
And with President Trump's leadership, and the way I answered
the question during my set of hearing is that President
Trump his leadership provided a unique window of opportunity, maybe
a once in a generation or once in fifty year,
eighty year opportunity to bring real, meaningful, durable, consequential reform
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to this gigantic bureaucracy that is the United Nations. And
since we hit the ground running, I mean, we have
a great team, many of whom I think you know.
Ambassador Mike Waltz, Ambassador Tammy Bruce, Ambassador Jennifer Lisetta, Ambassador
Dan de Greya, and myself. We all have different portfolios.
Mike's our chief of mission, Tammy is our deputy chief
of Mission. Jennifer handles the Security Council, Dan has the
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Economic and Social Council, and I have management and reform.
And we've been sent up here by the President, by
the Secretary and by our peers to come up here
and make sure this place runs better. And so I
spend my day and my night and many nights with
my team getting this place fit for purpose, get it
back to basics. I'm tomorrow we will gavel in. We've
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only been here one hundred days. We all got up
here in mid September. Tomorrow we will gabble through the
largest cut to the UN's regular budget in history. Maybe
in the time that nobody can remember a bigger cut
to the budget. And we also so a fifteen percent
cuts to the budget and a elimination of twenty six
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hundred UN bureaucratic posts, which is unprecedented and only happens
because of President Trump's leadership, his vision. He when he
spoke at the UN in September, he said, the UN
has great potential. It's not living up to that potential.
And we are executing the President's vision. And like I said,
it's the honor of a lifetime to serve the President
and the American people in this in this work.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, I think that is really really great. I'd be
curious to know. I means, as we speak, we are
I'm seeing that President Trump is going to receive the
Israel Prize for Peace and things are just not doing
so well over there. How does that affect what you
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do and what the UN does, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, the President's incredible leadership, his visionary leadership also allowed
that the Charmel shake deal and the twenty point peace
Plan that immediately saw the release of the twenty living hostages.
And at this point there is one hostage remains. When
the remains of one hostage right that have not been
released by Hamas and bipalaestis pulcinating Islamic jihad. So we
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have to get one. One family is still without their
son and that is unacceptable. But the President's twenty point
peace Plan was put into a Security Council resolution, again
a first of its kind, with the Board of Peace
and with the International Stabilization Force. And again it's the
President's leadership, his vision that allowed all of this to
come together. It would there just wouldn't be peace. He
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is the president of piece. We see it every day
and it's it's so much. I have to say, it's
fun to serve in this administration because every day we're
achieving goals and objectives that really before the president was
sworn in just people said it was impossible. And as
he said in as inaugural address, the impossible is what
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we do. And because of that leadership, we're able to
achieve a lot of things here at the UN that
previously people thought was just were just unattainable.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, I really do think that the fact that he
was not a career politician. If he spent any time
in Washington, it was to see somebody and get out,
And so I do think that that gives him a
particular perspective on dealing with government, in this case the
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United Nations that other presidents wouldn't have because they are
so used to the you know, the being involved from
the governmental and political aspect of things. And in particular,
I think the UN is an interesting place because you've
got all these countries from all over the place, and
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you know, history is filled with all these episodes of
American ambassadors to the UN getting into clashes with the
Soviet Union or others, and you know, just just sort
of amazing thing. And I think, you know, you really
are there at a very interesting time. And jeff I
would also ask, as someone who writes, I hope you're
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taking notes.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
We're working really hard. The you know, the every day
is a new challenge. And as I mentioned, you know
there's this is the unique window of opportunity in this
time to and there's hunt Jeffrey. There's one hundred and
ninety three countries in the United Nations. It's a staggering number.
And the way the budget works, if you can believe this,
whether you whether you contribute thirty seven thousand dollars or
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twelve billion dollars, you get the same boat in the
General Assembly, and of course we have the Security Council.
So it's a it's a governance structure that we set up,
you know, back in nineteen forty five, nineteen forty six, right,
but it really is it needs major reforms, and we're
executing against that every day. I mean we, like I said,
we're going to gabble through the budget tomorrow and then
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that sets up a huge reform opportunities in twenty twenty six,
which we're already starting to execute upon and starting to
work with. And everybody wants to see the United States
and everybody is listening to President Trump and it's again
it's an honor to have the opportunity to serve him
and the American people for us looking ahead, the President
said this in his remarks. The UN has great potential,
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and it is the world needs a place where everybody
can talk. And Ambassador Waltz talks about this all the
time that we'd much rather that place be in the
United States than in Moscow or Beijing or some other place.
And so it has a real role. It has gone,
like so many big organizations, the UN has become bloated.
It tries to do everything and you know this from
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your busines this world. If you try to do everything,
it's impossible to do everything well and so you end
up doing mediocre or worse and a lot of things.
And we are just guiding with our business experience and
with the President's direction, where we are bringing this place.
We're bringing these reforms which will hopefully get it fit
the purpose back to basics, promote international peace and security.
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And you got right now the President is settling conflicts
around the world basically himself and the small team. It'd
be great if the UN could could be right there
helping and be a force for good. So that's also
something we're focused on.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Who do you work with in the course of I mean,
what particular countries are there? Some that you are more
obvious allies than others, and others that you just you
can't really get near in a sense.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, we're the largest contributor Americans have since the founding
of the UN. We're the largest contributor to the system,
and we're the most generous nation on earth, and we
tend to work with the other large donor countries. But
of course, in the scope of our work, we work
with almost every country. I mean, of one hundred and
ninety three. I haven't met every country, but you know,
(09:10):
it's pretty close in one hundred days, and so we
work with everybody. But again, we have been laser focused
on delivering this reform agenda since mid September. And so
when we will take a little breather here, maybe maybe
a couple of days between now and New Year's and
then get right back at it. I guess a week
from today we'll get right back at it. So yeah,
(09:32):
but we I mean, Jeffrey, it's come visit any time.
It's a fascinating place.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, yeah, I'd like to do that. That might go
on my bucket list. Well. I spent some time courtesy
of my friends at Newsmax in Israel this summer. I
think it was in August for a week and wow,
truly an amazing place to see. And you know, I
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have first of all that, and I was saying to people,
you know, as Americans, you talk about, say the Pilgrims
in sixteen twenty, I think that's a long time ago.
Then you're walking around Jerusalem and they're telling you that
something was three thousand years old and that streets were
put in by the Romans and all of this kind
of thing. It really is an amazing thing, but it
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also gives you the impression of how hyper sensitive relations are.
And they pointed out to me in one part of
our tour, there was a hillside that was just on
the other side of the Israeli border, and below it,
on the Israeli side was a soccer field where kids
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had been playing soccer, and all of a sudden, gunfire
comes from the hill in Lebanon and killed some kids.
You know, it just takes your breath away at the
kind of brutality that can be found over there and
how much work needs to be done, which you know
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President Trump was doing just today.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yes, with all of this, was that your first trip?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
That was my first trip?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Wow. So when we're not on the radio though, you
could certainly tell me about it now, but I would
love to hear more about it. We just marked the
fiftieth anniversary of Embassador Daniel Patrick Mooyne, then Senator Daniel
Patrick Jinian's remarkable explanation of vote when the United States
cast its vote and then vote and then explained why
against the outrageous and shameful Zionism as Racism resolution from
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nineteen seventy five. And those remarks that the Ambassador in
Mestered Morny hand delivered back in nineteen seventy five ring
true today. The level of anti West, anti American, anti Israel, right,
it's all kind of wrapped up into one that still
exists here and it's something that we fight every day.
We're committed to stamping out this anti West, anti American,
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anti Israel bias that courses through too many parts of
the United Nations. And it's a this is not something
that's going to happen overnight, but we are again focused,
and we have the resources and the support to get
it done, and it just has to happen. But you're
when we took our first trip to Israel back in
twenty thirteen, my goal for our girls was to see
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that Israel was a tiny country in a tough neighborhood
and in spite of, or maybe because of, those dynamics,
the Israeli people lived their lives with great joy and
great focus and great purpose. And so you have national service,
which is a unique aspect, not singular, but very unique
amongst countries. And so it's a special place and they're
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a very special important ally of the United States. So yeah,
We work very close you mentioned before, We work very
closely with our allies, not only in the Middle East,
but across Europe and really across the globe.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Right. Well, that's good to know, you know. I sometimes
wonder if the United Nations did not exist and there
was a move to set it up, now, would this
be anywhere near the same? Would would we still? Would
we be having worse problems now? Would would there even
be a United Nations headquarters in New York? Would there
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be too many people out there that say, no, no, no,
not with the Americans, uh, et cetera. But it's, uh,
it's very interesting because I think that our enemies so
called out there. It isn't just Israel, it's the West,
It's it's America in particular. I mean, I think we
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have a you know, a target on us all the time,
and you know, too bad in one sense. But boy,
you have to be wary. And I would imagine as
you as you walk around the UN you're you're sensitive
to anything that you can see that that seems like
it's sending a message that things are not very good here.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, if anything gets frustrating during the day, whether it's
across the street, or back here at the Mission. I
I and I've done this a number of times throughout
the last hundred days. I will go down into our
lobby and I get to walk past the American flag
and then portraits of the President, the Vice President, Secretary
of Rubio, and Ambassador Waltz. And then there's most weeks,
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not every week, but most weeks, I have the genuine
privilege and honor to sit behind the placard that says
the United States. And Jeffrey, you and I've known each
other a long time. I can't really describe the feeling
of what it feels like to sit behind the placard
that says the United States, but it is. It will
never get old. It is just a tremendous honor. And
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as much as people may want to pick at us
and do damage to us or try to hurt the
United States, we are the indispensable nation where the indispensable
ally for many many countries, and we try to do it.
I mean, we're the most generous nation on earth. And
the President, yeah, the President has said that, the Secretary
has said that, and we proudly do that. I'll just
give you a quick story of how zany the un
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can get. There was a week, it was a couple
of months ago where the Cubans were running their resolution
that they run every year condemning the United States for
blockading and they call it a blockading and Cuba, which
of course is fundamentally untrue. We send something like six
hundred million dollars of key important humanitarian goods, food, medicine,
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other things to Cuba every year, so that's just fundamentally
untrue what they said. But it was the same week,
in the same week, we were fighting about this in
the General Assembly and trying to get countries to vote
with us because it's just offensive what the Cubans were doing.
And that same week is when Hurricane Melissa hit And
without missing a beat, hey, without missing a beat.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Hey, jeff h I hate to say this, but I'm
getting a hard break. Sign here. We can hold you
over if you'd like to do that or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'll just finish the quick story when we come back.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Sure, okay, great, thank you. All right. This is Jeffrey
Lord from the American Spectator, a Newsmax subbing for our
friend Sean Hannity, and we have our friend Jeff Bardos
on the line, who is the US Ambassador to the
United Nations for Management and Reform, and he's held that
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position since this year, so he's got a lot of
interesting times ahead of me. Jeff, and you were telling
a story there and we interrupted you for a break.
Let me get back to that.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, I was making the point, and thank you again
for having me on. I was making the point that
the United States, for you know, the whole of the
World War post World War two era, the entirety of
the history of the Nations, by far the largest contributor
to the system and the most generous nation on Earth
bar Non. There's not even a close second. And that
(16:39):
I mean, there's many, many examples of what I just said,
but I'll just give you one, which is the same
week that we were on the floor of the General
Assembly going back and forth with Cuba and some of
their allies on this ridiculous resolution that they run every
year accusing us of embargoing or blockading them, which is absurd.
We do almost six hundred million, as I mentioned before,
a six hundred million of of food, medicine, and other
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humanitarian goods to the Cuban people every year. At that
same week, when we were fighting about the resolution. Hurricane
Melissa hit the Caribbean and did terrible damage, not only
to our friends in Jamaica in other countries where we
have dear friends, but also to Cuba. And I'm very
proud right the State Department leapt into action and had
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a twenty four hour day, seven day a week operations
center to help our friends in the region, including the
Cuban people. We're not friends with the Cuban regime, but
we look after our neighbors here in the Western Hemisphere,
and the Cuban people needed our help and we were there.
And that's the United States is the only nation in
the world that would do that. And we don't even
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really talk about it very much. We just do it
because that's who we are.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, I think that's wow, that's a great story, and
it really is true. The United States does so much
around the world, and yet that is what the bad
guys want to target here. And uh, I think that
that's what makes us an exceptionally dangerous world out there,
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because you've got all kinds of people trying to undermine uh,
you know, good decent human relations between nations and all
of this kind of thing. So I think that uh,
you know, setting a setting a model at the United Nations.
And you know, I'm old enough to remember, you know,
some of these incredible moments. I think it was the
(18:32):
UH Cuban missile crisis where Ambassador Adlei Stevenson was in
a tete a tete with the Soviet ambassador. Do you,
Ambassador Zarn, deny that the Soviet Union is placed and
it is placing you know, nuclear weapons in Cuba and
all this kind of thing. Don't wait for the translator, sir,
give me your answer now. I mean, lots of lots
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of drama. Who would think that when they add the
UN that the American ambassador whomever that might be, would
be getting all kinds of attention from from the world
and world media and all of this kind of thing
because they do play such an important role in front
of the cameras and behind the cameras. I'm sure as
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you can testify.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yes. And of course you know, Ambassador Walt is our
chief of mission and is a remarkable leader, remarkable, remarkable man.
I mean, you know, his books are extraordinary, his life
history is extraordinary. You know, the first Greenbury elected to
Congress three terms, picked by President Trump to go to
serve in the administration. I mean, it's history is remarkable,
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and we all feed off of that. As I mentioned before,
whenever I'm having a bad day, I walk downstairs. And
it's not that often, by the way, but whenever i
am go down, I walk by the flag, I walk
by the portraits of our leaders, and it's just like
I said, it's it's the honorable lifetime to serve the
president and the American people.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, yeah, well, it certainly is. I did it for
President Reagan and it just was amazing. And you know
what these people are like when the cameras are off,
you know, it's it's always it's always amazing that people
have such negative impressions of them, whether it was President
Reagan then or President Trump now. And yet those who
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really know him and have spent time with him, and
I certainly have been privileged to do that. With President Trump. Wow,
you know what a great guy and a kind and
considerate soul and all this kind of thing. When he
found out that he wanted to know why I was
living in Pennsylvania when I'd had all this career in Washington,
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and I told him, you know, I was taking care
of my mother who was in her nineties at the time,
and he said, well, that tells me everything I need
to know about you. And you know, and periodically I
would he would call, or I would get little handwritten notes,
you know, say hi to Mom, that kind of thing.
But you know, the public image out there with people
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is a difficult thing. And I would imagine it's it's
difficult in dealing with the UN because I would imagine
there are people inside the UN that have negative impressions
of President Trump or America written large and are not
above causing problems.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, but you know, we're focused, right, We have a
clear reform agenda. The President's given us direction. We're executing
on that direction. And I said, I said this to
my wife. Often, I feel like I'm the luckiest and
we're here in New York, so I can say I
feel like I'm the luckiest man on the face of
the earth because I get to serve President Trump. We
work for Secretary of Rubio and Ambassador Waltz and the like.
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We just, you know, I'm very blessed to have this opportunity,
and we're not going to let anybody down. We're going
to execute the President's vision. We're going to execute the
agenda and we're going to get it done for the
President and for the American people.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well that's right now. Is the President coming up there
at any point in the near future.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Or oh gosh, I don't know. I know that every
September you've probably been in New York High Level Week
the President crazy. My first day at the office, I
was sworn in the night before. My very first day
at the office was on the floor of the General
Assembly with the President speaking to during High Level Week.
That was my day one. That was quite a quite
a first day. And uh, we have not slowed down since,
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but that was. Yeah. So High Level Week is usually
the week where all the world leaders come together. And again,
as I mentioned before, we need one place where everybody
in the world can speak to each other, and we
have it here in the United States, right here in
New York. With all the bad sports teams that New
York has.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Oh man, Well, you know, I grew up in Massachusetts,
so I'm a Red Sox fan in perpetuity.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Here and I probably wear my Eagles gear. I go
to Eagles bar as I wear my Philly stuff. So no,
no Flyers, Sixers, you know, there's no uh, there's no,
no hesitancy. You know we're Philly.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well that is great, Jeff, it was.
It was good to talk to you, and I think,
you know, it was a great opportunity for people to
learn of not just what you're doing, but what the
UN is about and all that, because you know, frankly,
it doesn't get the kind of intense coverage that I
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think it it might be better off with, except sometimes
when there was a negative out there and people want
to want to criticize it for you know, this that
or the other thing. But it's it's a it's a
great place. It's a fabulous place. I think the creation
of the United Nations was very, very amazing, and when
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you think back in history of World War One and
then that didn't end well in terms of a permanent peace,
and then World War Two, and finally the message was
received that you had to have some sort of an
institution out there that that could help keep the world
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a peaceful place to live. And I think you know
when they finally got the message with that. I mean
I remember as a kid, as I say, watching Henry
Cabot Lodge and it's interesting and of course Daniel Patrick
moynihan in later years. But boy, they really they really
had some first class US ambassadors there and your team,
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and I think continues that tradition. So that is a
that is a great thing. Well, in the meantime, Jeff,
there's stuff going on in a state known as Pennsylvania.
And I don't know whether you're familiar with Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I think my Twitter it says husband, father or father,
husband and Pennsylvanian. So yes, very familiar with our beloved commonwealth.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Well, they are having we taught on on this show.
Earlier we spoke with day Security, who is going to
be our nominee for governor, And I think it's going
to be a very very interesting race here. Josh Shapiro
(25:13):
is I think, going to be a tough guy to beat.
But I think he also and this may be an
Achilles heel, I think he also has his eyes set
on twenty twenty eight, so that getting through twenty twenty
six is really to get to twenty twenty eight with him.
I don't know if you have any thoughts on the
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politics of our commonwealth and all that sort of thing, But.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Having run twice, it is a strange for me to
answer this but you know, we don't do electoral politics
right now. We're serving in the executive branch and there
are lots of rules around that. So you know, obviously
I think and Jeff.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Bhil with that, what that really says is you're a diplomat.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yes, I'm proud registered in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania resident, have been
my whole life, and certainly follow things. But you know,
it's it's do you remember we've had some senators in
Pennsylvania over the years, not now, but in the past
who when penn State would play Pitt or the Eagles
would play the Steelers. The ones who were maybe less
(26:18):
courageous in their expressing their views would say, I'm just
rooting for a good game or I'm reading for Pennsylvania,
and I would always shake my head and say, come on,
just take a side. But when it comes to this stuff,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna demur, and you know,
just simply say that I love our commonwealth. And gosh,
you know, with Pence, he's always been at the forefront.
So it's gonna be an interesting It'll be an interesting
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twenty twenty six. But you know, here, we're just working
every day. And you said something before about about the
UN being a special place, and it is. It needs
massive reform and we're executing on those reforms. And I
think that's the number one message you share with you
and your listeners, that the American taxpayers have not been
regarded as much as they should have been over the years,
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and we are squarely thinking about the taxpayers. We're thinking
about the farmers and the mechanics and the I mean
small business owners, teachers, firefighters, first responders all over Pennsylvania,
all over the nation who pay their hard earned tax dollars.
So some of that can go to international organizations and
they have the absolute right and they should demand of us,
(27:23):
and we think about it every day that we're here
to make sure every dollar the American taxpayers spend to
the UN sent to the UN is fit for purpose,
well spent and you know, no waste for round abuse.
So that's what that's really you know, you asked me
before what we do. That's that's what me and our team,
that's what we spend a lot of our time on.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Well. I think that's I think that's great and hopefully
and having you here on Sean's show gives a little
more attention to what you guys are involved with in
working at the United Nations and dealing with all the
you know, the problems that I mean, this is not
(28:02):
going to be a world without problems ever, you know,
you finally get to the point where you realize that.
And so I'm glad you're there. And as I say,
I hope you're taking notes and that there's a book
down the road when you're done, because I do think
that history needs to be told so that people down
(28:26):
the road who are who are not involved with all
of this or too young or what have you eventually
begin to understand what it is that being at the
UN means and how it is and how you had
to deal with it and all of that kind of thing.
So so thank you very much, mister Jeff Bardos. It
(28:49):
was great to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Wishing you and your family and your listeners a very
healthy and happy new year, and just thankfully thank you
for having me on and please come over love to
show you around.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
All right, I may, I may. I'll put that on
my bucket list. Okay, thank Jeff, Bye, buye, We'll be
right back. The interviews you won't hear anywhere else every day,
(29:25):
every day.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
That's what we do. You're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
All right, well, this is Jeffrey Lord sitting in for
our friend Sean Hannity. I want to thank Sean for
the opportunity and our friend Linda of course, and on
we go to twenty twenty six. We are going to
have I think a very interesting year. It's an election year.
President Trump is not on the ballot, but in the
(30:16):
peculiar way of American off your elections, he will be
on the ballot in the sense that he will be
around the country campaigning for Republican candidates, which is something
that he is very very good at. I'm sure some
of you have been at Trump rallies. I've been in
my fair share. There are quite an amazing experience to see.
(30:37):
So that will be very interesting these elections. Just by
a little history background, you know me as the history buff.
Two years after a president gets elected, these elections can
tend to go south for the president, whomever that might be.
(30:58):
It's very bipartisan and president President Reagan won a landslide
in nineteen eighty and two years later got clobbered in
the congressional elections. Then he won again big time, even
bigger in nineteen eighty four, and got smacked a bit
in nineteen eighty six two years after, so that kind
(31:19):
of thing can, in fact happen. And one of the
good things about President Trump is he is the team
leader for Republicans and conservatives and he will be out
there making the case. So buckle in for twenty twenty six.
(31:40):
As I say, I'm Jeffrey Lord from Newsmax and the
American Spectator. Have a great time and we will see
you in the new year. Bye bye,
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