American Playbook - August 7th, Hour 2

Clay Travis, Radio and TV Host, and author of the new book, "American Playbook,
A Guide to Winning Back the Country from the Democrats" out tomorrow.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, hour too, Sean Hannity Show.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Glad you with us toll free our number eight hundred
and nine to four one Sean if you want to
be a part of the program. He's the creator the
founder of OutKick. He is also the co host of
the very successful Clay and Buck Show. Uh and a
fellow iHeart employee. As I am on radio, our friend

(00:24):
Klay Travis is with us. His new book is out today.
It's called A Guide to Winning Back the Country from Democrats,
Amazon dot com, Hannity dot Com, bookstores all across the country,
and he's also become a friend along with Buck. What's
going on, sir, her are you?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
I'm about to head out to the first book signing
for American Playbook that I hope is going to go well.
You well know, I don't know how many different book
signings you've done in your career, but oh a lot.
Hey christ Man, you show up, you don't really know
what to expect. So I'll be out at bookends in Ridgewood,
New Jersey, outside of New York City, and then I'll
be in Cleveland Wednesday, Atlanta on Thursday, and then on

(01:00):
beyond there.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
So I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I'm gonna be on your show tonight, which I'm looking
forward to as well. So I'll come straight back from
the book signing and hopefully this first event will go well.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
My last book I didn't. It was virtual because of COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh, it was just a totally different experience. I ended
up signing over eighty thousand books at home.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
That's incredible. I've signed six thousand and that took a
long time. I can't imagine how well ever, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I mean, but what you do is you get the
sheets and then you sign the sheet, and then they
insert it as a page into the book, so it's
part of the book. It's not like a book plate
as they call it. But all right, before we get
to it, and this is an important topic, a guide
to winning back the country from democrats, and by the way,
not an easy feat in my view, man, you will

(01:45):
really I hate soccer. I just can't stand it. I
was forced to play soccer. I went to a small
high school and I was a good athlete. I was
a pitcher, you know, on varsity I think in ninth grade,
tenth grade the latest, and I played on a basketball
team and they made me play soccer. Not only did
they make me play, they made me play center half back,

(02:06):
which is the worst position in the world because you
got to run the whole field back, you know, play
offense and defense.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I hated it, but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
No, I was really gonna say, they could have used
you on the US women's team.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Then, yeah, the idea they could have used me on
the women's team. You were really really angry about this
this weekend, and I saw what you were saying about
it was cracking me up.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Look, and by the way, the reason I made the
joke about they could use you is because Meghan Rapino said, Hey,
if a guy wants to be on the women's soccer team,
more power to them, I mean, or to her, however
you want to classify these ridiculous gender rules we have
right now. But look, Sean, I was in the stadium
in twenty fifteen when the US women beat Japan in Vancouver, candidate.

(02:52):
It was an incredible experience. I had my kids with me.
We all loved it. It was a very pro America
experience and everybody he loved that US women's team in
twenty fifteen. You probably remember that right because it was
taking place in North America. You could follow them as
they were playing in Canada. They won, and they were
one of the most beloved teams I can remember in

(03:13):
modern history. And then what happened. They went to France
in twenty nineteen. They won again, but Megan Rapino led
a woke rebellion. This team that everybody loved in twenty
fifteen suddenly turned and said, hey, we don't need you America.
We're not going to go and celebrate being the Women's
World Cup champions. We refuse to go to the White House.

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We will in no way acknowledge Donald Trump, even though
he had an offer conveyed to them to celebrate as
the president always does.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
And by twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Three, I think at least half of the country, maybe
more because I think the general sports audience that roots
for America in the World Cup, where the Olympics tends
to I think vote Republican more than not because they
want to celebrate America. They think America is a good play.
A lot of people were thrilled when the US choked

(04:04):
against against Sweden, and Megan choked in particular, and her
penalty kick missed the whole goal.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean the penalty kick I mean that should be honestly,
that that should be a ninety nine percent kick that
you get a goal. I mean, especially at that level,
but it was. Look, I am not interested in any
sport getting involved in politics. Yep, she knelt during the
national anthem. She supports biological men playing women's sports, but

(04:32):
I can't think of a time. Maybe you can correct
me if I'm wrong that she ever had to play
against biological men in soccer, in women's soccer. Maybe it happened,
maybe it didn't, I don't know. But so she takes
all these positions. I don't want politics in sports. The
worst years for the NFL were because of Kaepernick.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yep, you're one hundred percent right.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
And actually that's my last book, Republicans by Sneakers Too,
which is a famous quote that Michael Jordan admitted that
he said when they asked him, hey, why didn't you
get involved in politics during your career, he said, Republicans
by sneakers too? And you know what, seawan Michael Jordan's
sneakers still to this day, the air Jordan it out

(05:14):
sells every single current NBA player with a.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Shoe deal combined.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Because Jordan is beloved in the same way before he
had his off the golf course Shenanigans. That Tiger Woods
was that idea of trying Kobe Bryant, to a large
extent to that idea of trying to appeal to everyone
used to be the public mantra. And then I think
sports lost its way in a social media era and

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everybody started trying to speak to a niche and I
think it's failed. And by the way, you mentioned Meghan Rapino,
she ever played against men. Actually, this is evidence of
what it would be like if biological men who identify
as women were allowed to play. The US women's soccer
team in twenty nine team as a preliminary they played

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against the under fifteen year old All Stars boys from Dallas, Texas.
This is just one city. They lost. They got wrecked
five to two. Fifteen year old boys dominated Sean. If
we had the US men soccer team play against the
US women's soccer team, they could beat them fifty to
nothing if they needed to. That's how bad of a

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beating it would be. Men are just better athletes. They're bigger, stronger,
and faster than women. So the idea of allowing a
man to play is ludicrous.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
So you're basically saying that men are better than women.
I just heard that. Hey, you're gonna give me in
trouble at the house. I'm not trying to get you
in trouble at the house. You know, or that men
are smarter than women, Go ahead and make that comment.
Good luck to you.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Bigger, stronger, faster.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Is the reason I say it's Sean, my wife is
way smarter than me.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
He trust me.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
All right, let me get to the serious topic of
your book, and look, i' vacillate back and forth. I
think it's possible for Republicans to get back the White
House in twenty twenty four. I think it's very hard.
When you look at the electoral map. Republicans to win
the White House, they have to run the table now
used to mean Ohio and Florida. I'm not that worried

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about Ohio and Florida. But now it does mean Georgia,
and Georgia is in play. I think it's more purple
than it's been in a long time. North Carolina. You
got to pay close attention to North Carolina. Then you've
got to pick off states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, New Hampshire, Arizona, Nevada.

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None of those states are easy for any Republican to
win on a national level, and unfortunately, Democrats are better
at taking advantage of the new voting system implemented, especially
in twenty twenty over COVID, and that's voting by mail,
voting early, and legal ballot harvesting, which takes place in
many many states, and Republicans only now are beginning to

(07:58):
try and catch up courage people to have what bank
your vote with the Republican Party. I see no efforts
to expand out ballot harvesting, legal ballot harvesting on their part.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
That's issue number one. How do you feel about their odds?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Look, I think the right.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
So let me take talk big picture here for a minute, Sean,
because you're right Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan. The election
is going to be decided by what happens in those states.
But I think big picture, I think we are trending
towards and I'm a history nerd. I think that Joe
Biden is an accidental president, like Jimmy Carter was an
accidental president. And I think if Trump or whomever the

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nominee ends up being runs a America is awesome campaign,
as Trump has done before, and as I think many
Republicans could do if they were the nominee instead of him.
I think there's a desperate craving in America for a return.
I'm curious if you would buy into this. I think
most people who were raised in the seventies, eighties, nineties,

(08:57):
and early two thousands, which is a long period of time,
we all remember an era of America where you might
have different political opinions than your opponent, but you got
along with everybody. You could sit down and have a beer,
and you could disagree on political issues, but you actually
would find things that you agree with. I think there's
a desperate demand for that to return to America. And

(09:19):
so I'm not sure if it's going to one hundred
percent coalesce in twenty twenty four, but I think there.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Is not sure.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Let me tell you where I am on this, because
I've never seen a greater divide. How do you reconcile
those of us that believe in border security and those
that want open borders and sanctuary states and cities. How
do you reconcile those of us that believe in funding
the police to keep law and order so everybody's safe

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and secure, versus defund the police. How do you reconcile
those of us that believe in energy and dependence, and
we have more natural resources than we could use in
hundreds of years, and we could be energy and dependent
and dominant and rich, smart enough to have stayed with
those policies we've abandoned them. Versus those people that want
electric vehicles shoved down on a throat, even though Ford

(10:08):
lost four point five billion on their electric vehicle line.
How do you reconcile all of these issues? And I
can keep going for an hour.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Well, this is this is where that's a great question, Sean,
and this is where my faith in history comes. We
managed to get through the Civil War and as much
difference as we might have in immigration policy or in
defund the police, I think defund the police a perfect example.
Let me explain. There's almost no one who will say
that they ever supported defunding the police. Now, I mean

(10:37):
Corey Bush and a few of the radical left wing
idiologues will. But I think we won that argument. I
think the data reflects that defunding the police leads to
a rise in crime, leads to mostly minorities being victims,
oftentimes in inner cities because police are not able to
protect them. In fact, I'm sure you saw the Oakland
in Double ACP basically making the same argument that you

(10:59):
and I I have been making for years now. They
are on our side. I think they lost. I think
Democrats are on the wrong side of a lot of
these issues. And if we can get a true marketplace
of ideas and someone who makes the arguments in a
cogent and compelling way, I think we win on the
battle of ideas. And I think that's why social media

(11:20):
has had to rig things for the Democrats. And I
think Elon Bying Twitter is going to create more of
a marketplace of ideas. And here's the deal, Sean, I
tend to be a super optimist. I believe that we
are going to win. I make these arguments all throughout
American Playbook. By the way, if you're out there and
you're listening, and I know a lot of people do
for your show and my show, it's sometimes very frustrating.

(11:42):
And I know that feeling because I see people and
they say, man, I just feel like so little optimism.
I made an optimistic case that I believe is going
to be reflected in the future that we are going
to just like we did after the accidental presidency of
Jimmy Carter. We're going to have a repudiation of Joe Biden,
who only won in my opinion, because of COVID, And

(12:02):
we are going to see a repudiation of these left wing, woke,
failing Democrat policies all over the country, and we're going
to return to sanity. I really do believe it.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Let me ask you about the Trump part of this equation.
I mean, he is by far and away the leading
candidate for the Republicans right now. Nobody's really coming close
to him. The next closest would be Governor DeSantis. But
I mean it's thirty five to forty point difference at
this moment. How do you factor in if Trump is
the nominee and all of these indictments. There'll be one more,

(12:34):
maybe even as early as this week in Fulton County, Georgia.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Look, I think the indictments are trying to take him out.
I think they believe also that it makes him more
likely to be the nominee. And I think the essence
is they want to run against Donald Trump. But I
think Trump has to be smart, and I think Trump
has to be smart. And this is what I've spent
a lot of time thinking about John and I write
about this a great deal in the book. Trump needs
to understand that he can't win an election in twenty

(12:58):
twenty four by just foocusing on the people who already
support him.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
He needs to.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Run in a campaign, Sean, when I'm out with my
wife and her friends, all these suburban moms out there
that should be natural Republican voters, they have decided they
don't like Donald Trump. He needs to run a campaign
directly addressing their concerns so that in the Philadelphia area suburbs,
in the Atlanta, Georgia suburbs, and the suburbs surrounding Phoenix,

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all of these places where there are swing voters, educated women,
moms in particular, he has to convince them that he's
a better option than Joe Biden. That's the entire campaign.
He's got to win a higher percentage of women. If
I were advising Donald Trump, I would say, do whatever
you can to make the case to them because the

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male vote. Look, a lot of men listening to us
right now, Black, white, Asian, Hispanic, a lot of men
are voting Republican. It's not going to be particularly close.
This election is going to be one I think by
moms in the suburbs.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I think it's a pretty student analysis. And but I
will tell you there are way too many Americans that
you know. I just went over an Insider Advantage poll.
How little people know about Joe Biden borders. How frustrating, Oh,
how little they know about the Biden bribery scandal allegations.
It's they know everything about Trump, but the media doesn't
cover it because they're corrupt anyway. The book is called

(14:22):
a Guide to Winning Back the Country from Democrats. Clay Travis,
our friend, has written it. Great job. Bookstores everywhere, Amazon
dot com if you want a first print edition, and
Hannity dot com as well, and bookstores all across the country.
And what's your website for if people want to go
see while you're out on the road.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, you can go check it out.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
You at Clay Travis on Twitter and OutKick Obviously we'll
have all the updates for people to be able to
find us all over the country if you go to
OutKick dot com.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
All right, Clay, always great to have you. Thank you,
my friend. Eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn our number.
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All right, let's get to our busy phones here, shall we. Brian, Ohio?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
What's going on? Brian? Where in Ohio are you from?

Speaker 6 (16:37):
Where am I from? Originally?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well, where do you live in Ohio?

Speaker 6 (16:41):
Oh I apologize. I live along the river here near Wheeling,
West Virginia, just on the Ohio side.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I know the area. Well, beautiful, beautiful country. My friend,
Glad you called the nice rolling hills.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Yes, thank you. Yeah. I was just kind of reaching out,
you know, speaking about all the indictments and what's going
on in the future, and what's going on and what
that does for President Trump, which I see it allows
him to now start doing discoveries into the state elections
that are involved the FBI's involvement, their records, the CIA records,

(17:14):
pelosis communications. This discovery could take up to ten years
and you know, or more before you get to the trial.
So I didn't know. I was kind of curious.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well yeah, yes, and no.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I mean you look at the venue, which in this
case is what Washington, DC.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
You look at the judge.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's an Obama appointed judge that has been you know,
that doesn't even want comparisons between January sixth and the
rioting in the summer of twenty twenty that killed a
couple of dozen Americans and resulted in billions of property
damage and we had thousands of injured cops.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
You know, a riot to me is a riot.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Regardless of what the cause is or the reason of
the rationale. But nobody was really prosecutor or held accountable
for the summer of twenty twenty riots. It's you know,
it's just wrong. Rioting is wrong, period, end of sentence.
That's not that's not law and order exactly.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
And this but this gives the Trump legal team now
to start cracking open the files that weren't they haven't
been able to get to before and see who else's
involvement on the on the Democratic side is involved.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
And well, we know a lot already though.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Think about this, We know from the Capitol Police chiefs Son,
who's been on this program and been on television, that
that he was requesting based on intelligence he received. He
was requesting guard troops in the in the weeks, in
the days leading up to January sixth, and multiple times
on that day, and he got no help. What about

(18:51):
the four people we have on tape a couple of
days before January sixth, you know, telling me that that
they heard Donald Trump and Donald Trump himself acknowledging that
he asked for guard troops. Do we need guard troops?
If we do, let's make them available. You know, you
put all of this together, and then Lester Holt's bombshell

(19:12):
report from NBC saying they had actionable intelligence and they
didn't act on it. That's that, then, is a law
enforcement failure and we can't have that in the future.
But you know, when you got a political agenda. But
you know, going into this case, that's not what they're
charging Donald Trump with. I mean, we've gone over this

(19:33):
chapter and verse. That's not where they're going with this
because you know what they'd have a hard time getting.
You know, what exactly did Donald Trump say that cause
people to go what he said? You know, peacefully, patriotically
march to the Capitol so your voices will be heard.
I think that's why they didn't charge him with that.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Right Well, I'm still thinking though, that it allowing him
to be able to subpeena the various states election records
and kind of crack that open too.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I don't see this judge going down that road. For
those that think this judge is gonna recuse herself, I
think are dreaming. It's a pipe dream. And those that
think that Donald Trump can get a fair trial in Washington,
d C. I think that's a pipe dream too. I
think it's a fae of complete You know, now, the
Justice Department wants a protective order in terms of the

(20:24):
ability of the president to speak out and defend himself
and give information to the public. That's a freedom of
speech issue to me.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
But they did it.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
For example, Roger Stone wasn't allowed to use Twitter or else.
They told him they're going to throw his ass in jail,
so they stifled him. They stifled Matafort, and those voices
were silence. They couldn't even speak out on their own
behalf and their own defense publicly, just to counter the
narrative that was going on that we know this false

(20:55):
narrative about Trump Russia collusion, so I mean.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
Leads us to the series of us losing actually our
rights across the board again, like you've been talking about
a two tier judicial system that we've got going on.
But I mean, every individual that is an Americans should
be outraged, no matter which political party you're affiliated to,
right now, because we are losing our constitutional rights period.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
I don't want Republicans getting in power in a Republican
attorney general and them, you know, having a weaponized justice system.
I want equal justice, equal application of our laws. You know,
we used to have something that you know, we talked
about was called prosecutorial discretion. And you know, I think
what we have here is just an overly politicized and

(21:42):
weaponized Department of Justice, and it's going to play out
the way it's going to play out. I just don't
think in venues like New York or DC or Bolton County, Georgia,
not saying there aren't great people that live in all
those places. However, only five percent of the electorate and
DA voted for Trump, only twelve percent in New York

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and only twenty four percent in Fulton County not exactly
a jury pool favorable for a fair and impartial jury.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Well, I agree with you one hundred percent. And again
we are on a on a peculiar fense here which
way this is going to roll? Unfortunately? You know, I
think our voting rights.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Let me jump to the conclusion.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I think it's a fad of complete I think the
deck is stacked against Donald Trump. I think he will
be convicted Fulton County. I could see the Georgia Supreme
Court absolutely overturning any conviction in that case, because I've
read that transcript numerous times and the one line that
they keep going to is so out of context that
any good lawyer, I think, could could just point out,

(22:49):
excuse me, he's saying that there was a lot more
than the number of votes here. And it was a
long phone call, and nobody during the course of that
phone call once said I think you're cross sing a
line here, mister President. You know, I want to be clear,
you're not asking us to do this, this or this,
And I think had they felt that at the time,
they should have said that. Anyway, good call, my friend,

(23:11):
Thank you, uh eight hundred and nine four one Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program.
Dana also in the great state of Ohio. Where and
ohiore you from Dana.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
What's happening? How are you?

Speaker 7 (23:24):
That's fine?

Speaker 6 (23:25):
Well?

Speaker 7 (23:25):
I will continue to wonder is when Obama was proud
of that and he had VP Biden in there, didn't
he know what the name of God and bought Biden
was doing?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (23:35):
Did he know? What type of evidence does he have?
Could he use it against him that the Democratic Party
decides we don't want you to run and they bring
it out and they, you know, say here's what we
got against Jijoe. You get out or we're going to
bring to the American public. And for as far as
him wanting to bring in Natural Guard troops to Washington

(23:59):
and Dane could know and the mayors are to know
what couldn't he have stared him and brought them in?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Anyways, Listen, I think you're raising a lot of good
points here.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Did Joe know?

Speaker 6 (24:12):
Well?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Why did Joe lie when when questioned repeatedly as a
candidate and as president if he ever had discussions with
his son about his foreign business dealings?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Why why would he lie about that?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
If he didn't think he did anything wrong or there
would be anything.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
But now we know he took specific actions as vice
president that resulted in the enrichment of his family. Now
the media can ignore this as much as they want.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
One little shift.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Is slowly now emerging is the media is beginning to
realize that this is a much bigger deal than they
originally maybe thought, or they thought they could just ignore
it or cover it up whatever, because then now set
and now asking questions about Hunter Biden's culpability, they're willing

(25:01):
to sacrifice Hunter at this point in order to protect Joe.
The problem is it's the vice president that used and
abused his power, and these if you read the statutes
involving you know, influence, peddling, and bribery that you don't
have to benefit yourself financially, it could be for the

(25:24):
enrichment financial enrichment of your family if you take a
specific action. Now, I would argue it's very transparent. The
quid pro quo, Joe leveraged the billion to get a
prosecutor fired.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
In six hours.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
They did it, Ukraine got their billion in loan guarantees
and Hunter continued to get paid. That's what we know
that would seem to fit the statute to me. Otherwise,
why would a vice president of the United States of
America ever be interested in firing a prosecutor in Ukraine?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Don't think it would happen.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
So and then you can, you know, go to the
WhatsApp message and I'm sitting here with my father and
within days five million dollars from a Chinese government connected
energy company makes it into the Biden family cofferce. So
there's a lot here, you know, three and a half
million from the Russian oligarch.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
He met it.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
You know, this famous restaurant, Joe Biden's at the meeting.
It's not that he didn't just talk to these people,
he met them actively. You know, he was the brand.
It wasn't Hunter the crack addict as the brand. It
was Joe Biden. And remember mauris Ma also said we
need help from DC. That they weren't asking for help

(26:41):
from Hunter. They were pressuring Hunter to get his father involved,
to get this prosecutor off their back so they can
stay in business. As Devin Archer said that otherwise they
would have gone out of business.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
What do you think Obama knows anything? I knew about it?
What'd he be cull bable if he knew it was
something about as private and didn't do anything about it.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
The only the only time that I have seen in
all of this, uh Barack Obama mentioned was when Joe
Biden bragged that he had done all this at the
during a talk of the Council of Farm Relations, when
he said, you know, well, you're not the president, you
can't control the billion dollars. He said, call Obama, call

(27:23):
the president. He'll back me up. So Joe kind of
implicates him there. I've not heard of any other implication.
Do I think that that Barack Obama knew Joe did that?
There's no evidence to prove that. I doubt they made
the phone call to Barack Obama and said, hey, your
vice president is leveraging this billion and insisting we fire

(27:45):
a prosecutor. Uh, do you support this? And and god
only knows whether or not Barack Obama even knew about
Hunter's farm business dealings. There's no indication that he did.
So I'm you know, that's a good question. I think
it's certainly one worth asking Barack Obama. Do I think
he knew that Joe leveraged a billion when he was

(28:06):
over in Ukraine. Eh, not necessarily. You know, presidents are busy.
They got a lot on their plate. It's the hardest
job in the world. And I'm not making an excuse.
I just haven't seen any evidence that would indicate that.
If I do, I'll tell you I promise anyway, appreciate it.
Quick break right back to our phones told for you
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Back to our busy Phones, Bob Long Island, New York.
Next Sean Hannity Show, The All New Am seven to
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Speaker 5 (30:17):
Hey, Sean, I want to ask you about two things,
Get your thoughts. Number one is your thoughts on the
Russian and Chinese warships off the coast of Alaska. Pilots
told to essentially stand down in the Mideast, drones harassed.
I'd like to get your thoughts on that, and as
part of that, maybe one of your Hannity specials can

(30:37):
have You've got so many knowledgeable Fox military analysts like
General Keane, Katie McFarland, Jennifer Griffin, maybe you could do
a forum one night and just address all the different
issues from a military perspective, which I think is getting
lost with all the Trump and Biden news that's out there.
So that's number one and number two must watch TV

(31:01):
if you could pull it off, would be Professor Dershowitz
debating Bill Barr.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
I might be able to pull that off, but I
don't even know if I really want to to be honest,
it'd probably be very contentious, but I might be able
to pull that off.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I'm not opposed to that.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
I mean, Ron DeSantis has accepted and Gavin Newsom has accepted,
and you know, we'll work it out the details behind
the scenes. But they're going to debate on my show,
and I'm going to be the moderator. I think that'll
be a pretty interesting debate, considering they've been sniping at
each other now going on for months and months and months,
so you know it's going to be blue versus red,

(31:42):
state versus state, what policies work, what don't work, what's
best for the future of the country. I think that
that might be interesting. I know Bill Barr is a
smart guy. I Knowdlan Dershowitz is a smart guy. I
tend to agree with Dershwitz more on this than Bill Barr.
But you know, people are gonna have honest differences on
these issues. But anyway, appreciate the call eight hundred and

(32:04):
ninety four one Sean if you want to be a
part of the program. Why is the media now Why
are they ignoring the Joe component, the Devin Archer component
of this? This what is a bribery scandal allegation against
the president of the United States. We'll check in with
David Shoon and Greg Jarrett