Are Politicians Safe? - August 2nd, Hour 2

Dr. Rand Paul, Senator from Kentucky and his wife, Kelley Paul, an accomplished author, join to discuss her recent op-ed on the safety of our government officials in this politically charged environment

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our two Sean Hannity's show toll free. It's eight hundred
and nine for one Sean. You want to be a
part of the program. We have spoken at length about
the the the insanity of allowing Supreme Court justices homes
to be docked. And not only are they docking the
Supreme Court justices, but they've given out the locations of
where their kids go to school, where they go to church,

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when they go to church. And you know, of course
we had the the disclosure of an assassination plot against
Justice Kavanaugh, and then of course Lee Zelda and gubernatorial
candidate Congressman he was attacked, and yet the Biden White
House stands by this insanity. Here's Karine Jean Pierre grilled

(00:43):
by Peter Doocey on the issue of protesting Supreme Court
justices outside their home. The protesters can go to a
justice's house, and they can go to a restaurant. Where
is it that you don't think it's appropriate for a protesters?
I just laid out. You asked me about intimidation. We
condemn intimidation, We can damn any violence. And we've been

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very clear that is it is a clear it is
a clear definition of what violence is or what intimidation is.
Peaceful protest people should be allowed to be to be
able to do that in a restaurant, if it's outside
of a restaurant, if it's peaceful, for sure, really peaceful
protests where you were Your per question to me was

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intimidation is become violent? Protesters do not agree with an
opinion that they signed on too. Had no right to
privacy is what you're Sair, Peter. This is this is
people have the right. This is what a democracy is.
People have the right. Of course, people have a right
to privacy, but people also have a right to be

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able to protest peacefully, peacefully. It's the intimidation and the
violence that we conduct. Now, two people that have been
through this enough themselves as Senator Rampaul, doctor Rampaul from
Kentucky and his wife Kelly, joined us by the way,
an accomplished author in her own right, to discuss the
safety of government officials. First of all, why don't you both,

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by the way, Kelly, welcome to the program. I don't
know if you remember we met once before. Yes, it's
great to have you as a Marion. We don't really
need randomness interview but it's good that he came anyway.
Just teasing, but this is very, very real, and these
protests now are continuing around the homes of these justices

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and it's against the law. They're not enforcing the law.
Both of you have experienced this. I remember after the
Republican National Convention, what happened in the streets. You had
this instance, Senator, with this crazy neighbor of yours. Why
don't you talk about what happened in your life, Kelly,
from your perspective, why don't you tell us what you see? Well?

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I think the reason I wrote the op ed a
couple of weeks ago or last week, because I don't
feel like the media is actually fomenting this. I mean,
I've had my husband the attacked by a vocal Trump
hater on the internet, nearly killed, six broken ribs, had

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to have part of his lung removed, and a couple
of weeks ago, our newspaper, The Courier Journal, actually printed
an op ed from a man who was justifying the
attack on Rand, saying somehow he deserved it, that that
people don't like him, that his political opinions make him

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somehow worthy of human pain and suffering. It was the
most disgusting thing I've ever read, but I'm not surprised.
I mean, this is the same newspaper, The Courier Journal,
that after Rand was assaulted and nearly killed, their headline
was Rand Paul a less than perfect neighbor. We had
Casey Hunt on MSNBC that week as I watched my

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husband barely be able to breathe, struggling for breath and
in excruciating pain. Kasey Hunt on MSNBC laughed, read the
story and said it was her favorite story of the week, laughing.
I mean, it really is mind numbing that they think this.
You know, one of my biggest gripes, if you will, Senator,

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and I've been very outspoken in real time on this
radio show. I was condemning what was going on in
January sixth I went out of my way to condemn
what happened that day on my TV show that night,
but I also condemned the five hundred and seventy four
riots that we were told were mostly peaceful that resulted

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in dozens of dead Americans, thousands of injured cops, pelted
with bricks and rocks and bottles and molotov cocktails, etc.
And billions of property damage and there's no committee looking
into that. Now. Democrats were either a silent b they
just lied to us and said they were mostly peaceful
when obvio they were not, or see they went as

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far as Kamala Harris, you know you shooting out a
tweet with a bell fund link for the people responsible
for the rioting, and she never got held accountable. And
I'm just trying to why does one riot take so
much precedence over five hundred and seventy four other riots.
Off Rioting is wrong, it's wrong. Amazing to see how

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much the left wing media has looked the other way.
So for example, the writer that my wife was describing
who wrote that I deserve to be attacked and have
six risbroken. That writers has been arrested for assault. He
has a rap sheet and has been arrested for assault,
and he's allowed to write in a left wing paper.
They accept him as a real writer to then say

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that I deserve to be assaulted. This is from somebody
who's been convicted of assault, but it's not just him.
Also in the Courier Journal, they employed the young man
who recently tried to assassinate a mayoral candidate. So we
had a young man show up. He shot eight shots
at the mayoral candidate from four feet away and missed. Fortunately,

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he spent two nights in jail. Black Lives Matter bails
him out, But he writes for the Courier General. And
he's an attempted assassin. And now they have a guy
convicted of assault. And this is the left wing that
then says, oh, we need to lock up those people
in January six who went inside the capitol. Meanwhile, they
have an attempted assassin that worked for them and now

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a guy convicted of assault. But I just draw the line,
I won't speak to them anymore. Or if they're going
to employ writers and allow people to use their pages
to say, basically, I deserve to be assaulted because I
aggressively interviewed doctor Faucier, because of the way I speak,
or because I'm tenacious that somehow I deserve to be attacked.
That's not right. It's never been right. And they've they're

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gonna have to pay a penalty by conservatives and decent
people saying this is no longer a viable news outlet. Well,
when you read something like this in the Courier Journal, Kelly,
and you're sitting there and you wrote in great detail
about the care you gave your husband as he was
struggling to breathe and help him recover, and these were serious,

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severe injuries. And then you think about the night of
the Republican National Convention, how you guys got out of
there with your lives as frankly a miracle that night.
I mean, that was a pretty scary video we aired it,
and I just sit here and I wonder, at what
point now does this end? Because you know, I've been
on the radio thirty five six years, whatever it happens

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to be at this point, and TV twenty six and
a half years, and I'm thinking, I would never give
out the address of any Democratic politician. I would never
talk about the schools their kids go to or the
churches that they go to. I'd never give out the
address of a liberal Supreme Court justice because it would
lend itself, you know, to invite crazy people that might

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be prone to any type of behavior, and I wouldn't
want that all my conscience to be very blund with you. Absolutely,
it doesn't seem like the Democrats and the left really
agree with that, though I think they honestly believe that
they are righteous, that somehow we are because we disagree
with them, we are deserving of assaults of violence. I'll

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tell you it's it's not just the media. The National
Teacher of the Year, a man named Rodney Robinson, actually
tweeted out a couple of years ago Ran Paul's neighbor
was a hero. I'm calling on Mitch McConnell's neighbors to
do the right thing and step up, literally fomenting violence,

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further violence against Mitch McConnell. And guess what happened to him?
Sean nothing. Nothing. Jason Camerons, the superintendent of the schools
in Virginia employing Rodney Robinson, did nothing. When I raised
a ruckus on Twitter, he gave of a bogus apology. Ohaha,
I was this kidding? Didn't mean it? And what did

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Camers do? He fell all over himself, thanking him for
deigning to apologize. This is the left. We've had fake
anthrax sent to our home, terrifying me. I had to have,
you know, people come out here with the FBI. I
had to take showers, you know, immediately, trying to rinse
everything off, Terrified that somehow I've been exposed to anthrax.

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We've had threats, death threats. You know, the AP says
when we were mobbed in DC, oh, they said, there's
no evidence of that, Sean. As you know, there's nine
minutes of live stream video of us being spit on,
screamed in our faces. They continue to justify violence against
Conservatives for Rand's crime. They say Rand's attack bouty, what

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a joke. Rand tries to seek the truth and ask
respectful questions in a forum and a US Senate, and
yet the media will describe it as somehow he is
attacking someone. It's disgraceful. Actually, that's called doing his job. Look,
I've had a lot of experiences myself over the years,

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even examples with me being with my kids. It's never pleasant.
I had an assistant one time you mentioned the anthrax scare.
She opens up my mail and outcomes a whole bunch
of white powder, and you know, for the next eight
hours of her life, she's isolated alone. I can't even
wear her own clothes, and literally scared to death that

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she might be dying and calling her parents and tears
by myself. When it happened to me, I had actually
carried a bunch of mail up against my chest, and
so when I called, you know, our office, and they
had the f behind the phone. They had to take
off all your clothes, throw them in the backyard. You know,
you're just living in fear. People are absolutely terrorizing us.

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Nothing has ever happened. Rand has had someone call repeatedly
and do death threats against his office. They know who
these people are and they don't do anything to him,
and that I have had the similar experience. Quick break,
We'll come back. One would Senator Rampaul his wife Kelly Paul,
talking about the violence and the double standard in terms

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of safety for our elected officials in this politically charged
environment we live in, all right, One would Senator Rampaul

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and his wife Kelly Paul. She wrote an op ed
She's an accomplished author in her own right on the
safety of government officials in this politically charged environment we
live in. Senator, in the case of Supreme Court justices,
we have a law that says you cannot harass or
intimidate justices or jurists or court officers at their residences

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or their places of work. Why isn't that law being
enforced by the attorney general. Well, the attorney general that
thinks anybody involved which January six needs to be arrested
and put away for a long period of time. Why
isn't he enforcing this law. Well, I think the attorney
general is a political creature and he's not going to
enforce the law. But why isn't the local sheriff enforcing
the law? And I would go one step further. Let's

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say you're just an ordinary citizen and you have some
idiots outside of your house with a bullhorn at two
in the morning. You know, when I was a kid
and we were apving a party at two in the morning,
the police came. It's called disorderly conduct and we were
told to quit it or we were going to go
to jail, and we would quit, you know, making so
much noise. And so the thing is is we should
enforce even the traditional laws for everybody. But the justices

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do have a special law, yes, enforce it. But even
if you don't have a special law, any politician of
the country, Republican or Democrat, you should not be allowed
to stand outside their house at two in the morning.
That is not free speech, that is not peaceful protest.
That's disorderly conduct. Send the patty wagon, stick him in
the back, arrest them overnight. They come back the next day.
Put them away longer, and every day to come back.

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Put them away longer. No, I mean ask you this,
why don't we investigate the five hundred and seventy four
riots in the summer of twenty twenty when you know
thousands of injured cops, dozens of dead Americans, billions property
damage that we don't hear a peep about those. Now
we have videotape evidence of people involved in real crimes.
This seems to be zero interest at the Department of

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Justice on those crimes that were committed. Why is that, Well,
it's it's a double standard. I mean, look at the
two attorneys that were making and throwing molotov cocktails at
the police in New York City. What did the Department
of Justice do? What did brick Garland do? He downgraded
their crimes to take away most of the penalty. And
yet there are people I know of a twenty six

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year old young man who wandered into the Capitol, never
said a word to anybody, walked by the police, Nobody
told him to leave. He was in the capitol for
a minute. They arrested him at an airport or put
him to the ground and put him in a goff
like he was a terrorist. And he spent one minute
in fifteen seconds inside, never spoke to anyone, didn't touch anything,
didn't fight with anybody. And arguably, yes, he did the

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wrong thing. He shouldn't have gone inside. It's trespassing. But
they want to throw the book at these people and
put them in jail. Meanwhile, too, hoodlum attorneys throw molotov
cocktails and get theirs downgraded. There their penalty is downgraded. Unbelievable. Well,
I mean, I'm glad both of you are safe. I
thought it was very boldly you, Kelly, to speak out
the way you did in that OpEd. It was a

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powerful OpEd, and I hope people pay attention, and I
hope they pay attention before something horrible happens. I have
this very bad feeling if this continues, it's not going
to end well, and somebody is going to get hurt
or worse. And I think if we don't take the
actions that are necessary and hold these people accountable, you
know that that will be a contributing factor. Because we

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didn't nip it in the Bud when we had an
opportunity too. Anyway, Thank you, Kelly Paul, Thank you Senator Rampaul,
Thank you as always, and keep on doctor Fauci. I
don't care what the Courier Journal says. I think it's
important that public officials answer hard questions and you hopefully
we'll get to the bottom of it eventually. Eight hundred

(15:12):
nine four one, Sean, if you want to be a
part of the program, James Gomy, you have the right

(15:46):
to remain silent, and you might want to use it.
This is the Sean Hannity Show, all right, twenty five
till the top of the hour. Eight hundred nine f one, Sean,
you want to be a part of the program. Nate
Silver's five eight now saying that the odds are in
a slight advantage for the Democrats to hold on to

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power in the Senate. Is that true? Now? I've been
arguing that the Senate is going to be much much
harder for Republicans to take over, and there's going to
be a lot of close phrases. You've got to hope
that this really becomes a wave election year. What impact
the Dabb's decision might have on this election year? This
midterm election year. I don't know. I thought people would

(16:28):
understand a lot more quickly that abortion is not outlawed
in America. Every state will decide what their laws are
going to be. They will have very liberal states that
will allow abortion up to the moment of birth, and
you'll have states that have perhaps that are very restrictive
and they'll maybe not allow abortion. And you'll have states
that will allow abortion with restrictions, maybe at a period

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of time like Mississippi up to fifteen weeks. But abortion
will be legal and anybody that wants one, they'll be
able to get one. But it's still being politicized by
so many. All right, let's go to the great state
of West Virginia. Brian is standing by Brian, You're on
the Sean Hannity Show. How are you. I'm doing well,
Thank you. One of the things from the buzz on
the ground in this region here. And then I'm involved

(17:10):
in oil and gas and also that have been involved
in medical field too. What is motiving centat to Mansion
here is the fact that there's a big look to
be able to create this center to be the new
oil and gas mecca of the Northeast and cutting off
all the oil going down to the south to Texas
and Oklahoma. Then also you have Heather Brush, who's the

(17:30):
president of the Mailon who then produces the EpiPen. She
is centator to Mansion's daughter. During the Obama era, you
had five hundred dollars EpiPens. Trump clamped the pens. Then
o'biden got in and raised the price again. So there's
a deal going on somewhere in the background to be
able to get to push at this new these new refineries,

(17:52):
cracker plants, and pipelines in this region. And also I
think it's the Democrats only hope in twenty twenty four
to get sentiment Cinema and Mansion in running for president
vice president there. So I think he held out until president.
I don't think he had to go along. Listen. First
of all, it's not the Inflation Reduction Act. That's just

(18:13):
a lie. It increases inflation. We cited congressional studies, we
cited the Wharton School study. So it's not doing any
of the things that they say that it's going to do.
It's not an inflation reduction act. It's a massive tax increase.
In an election year, it will bring tax hikes to
most Americans. It breaks Joe Biden's promise that I'll never

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We're not going to raise taxes on anybody that makes
under four hundred thousand dollars a year. That's not true.
It's going to be sixteen point seven billion dollars for
people making under two hundred thousand dollars a year. And
that's on top of the added cost of every worker
and every family that they're paying because of Biden's inflation.

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And we haven't even factored in yet the high cost
of gas and what that is costing people. But so
I'm not sure why he gave in. And there's there's
some talk that there might be a side deal with
Mansion that would speed up projects at West Virginia. Gash
to me, the price is too high, and Mansion had
it right in the past when he said you don't

(19:18):
raise taxes in the middle of a recession. So I'm disappointed.
I think that he capitulated. I'm not sure what the
rationale the reason is. I didn't think that he did
a particularly good job on five Sunday shows this weekend
explaining what the reason for this was. But I do
know that it's it's not going to end well for
the economy or for the people of West Virginia, because

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one industry that's hit the hardest here happens to be
the coal industry. They're being hit, they're getting hammered in this,
and that's such a big part of the economy of
West Virginia. I'm I'm rather shocked that he went along
with it. Yeah, or like he just needed to get
what he what the original deal was. Evidently President Biden
had backed out of the deal a little bit, so

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he's held off his vote until he was able to
get what he's looking for. Able to get what and
at what price? That what the raise taxes on the
people of West Virginia. And you hurt the coal industry, well,
the google industry's already down here. You've got nearly fifty
percent of West Virginia out of work because of this
coal industry collapse. Okay, so more to my point, you're
making my point for me. There's no upside here. If

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he really wanted to get a good deal for West Virginia,
maybe I could understand. Okay, if you allow if you
lift restrictions and regulation on the coal industry and the
natural gas industry in West Virginia and you allow us
to build this mystery pipeline that they keep saying might
be a side deal. Then I might understand how he'd say,

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I'll let you go along with your stupid green energy
ideas that are not going to be online for the
next two decades. I might understand that. But that but
on top of all of that, he's taxing the people
of West Virginia on top of it. So if he
was looking for a deal up up till now, I
had said and was saying that, I gave him a

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lot of credit because he was standing with the people
of West Virginia. This deal is not standing with the
people of West Virginia. This is this is him standing
with Chuck Schumer and the Washington Sewer and the swamp.
To me, yes, yes, And he could very well have
gotten a thumbs up from the DNC now to push
him forward in twenty twenty four two. Yeah, you know,

(21:28):
you can't get in the mind to some people. I
have no idea anyway, I appreciate the call, Brian all
my best Ross is in North Carolina. Ross. Where in
North Carolina are you? I'm in Swansboro, shown how are
you doing? Thanks? For getting my call. Good. You know
where I've been. Um, I have friends that live in
Mountain Top. You know what that is? Mountain Top? No,
I don't. Okay, no, no, I don't. I'm not sorry. No,

(21:48):
Rocky Mountain, No, but not Mountain Top. But anyway, what's
going on? I'm a transplant from the Long Island, so
you could probably tell by the accent. Yeah. Well, I
hope you didn't bring New York politics with you. Absolutely not.
That's why I'm talking to you. Uh. My concern, um,
is what happened yesterday without this al Qaida leader being
taken out of which is a good thing. It was

(22:09):
finally something good. When are you? Yeah? Yeah, finally good
on his watch. But my concern is that now did
we stir up the old bees nest? And I'll be
going to head to the southern border where it's wide
open and million pluses or have already passed, and h
we know we opened the door for all these you know,
for another two point zero nine to eleven. Oh, we

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already know that people on the terrorist watch list have
have been confronted and caught at the border. I think
we're over fifty now that we know of how many
actually got through without US CAP knowing about them. We
don't know that number. Are there terror cells in America?
Have I bet my last dollar there are numerous ones

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ready to be activated. I don't think terrorism has ended
or gone away. Um. I applaud that they took out
that al Zoari. I'm happy about it. But with all
that said, it also reinforces the point that I was
making is the way that Joe Biden pulled out. I mean,
it was so hasty, and it was it was so disorganized,

(23:13):
and it was such a mess, abandoning Americans at people
with green cards are Afghan allies, leaving billions of military equipment,
just an unmitigated disaster that they said was a great success.
But the worst part of it is now that the
old Taliban's the new Taliban the same thing, and so
now it's a safe haven country for terrorists like al Zoari.

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It's not an accident that he was out in broad
daylight right in the middle of Afghanistan because he knew
he had a safe harbor there and a sleepy Uncle
Joe going to take time to put his sippy cup
down and face this the way somebody like Trump would
nor listen Trump had a brilliant plan to get out.
Remember the last eighteen months that Donald Trump was president.

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At the Taliban, they didn't lift a finger and kill
a single American. And I know the conversation because I've
interviewed him about those conversations. And when they were talking
about a draw down, an eventual pullout withdrawal from Afghanistan,
which he had promised as a candidate. He didn't want
to be involved in these quagmires for decades and decades,
he told the head of the Taliban, and no uncertain

(24:17):
terms before we even discuss a deal. If you don't
follow every dottat I cross tea, every comma in any
agreement we make, I will destroy you. And you've seen
what you saw what I did with the Caliphate. You
saw what I did with Solomany, You saw what I
did with Baghdaddy and associates. You saw what I did
with the al Qaida leader in Yemen. So that message
was sent and not a single American, and they, by

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the way, they didn't move. The interesting part of that conversation,
the rest of the story is, as Paul Harvey used
to always say, was that he in that conversation pinpointed
the exact location of the Taliban leader that he was
talking to. In other words, you were saying, I could
take your ass out right now, right, so don't mess

(24:59):
with these Yeah, that was great. By the way, that
was that was brilliant to me. I think it was
absolutely brilliant. So you know the fact that okay, they
got al Zawari. Okay, I'll give our military or intelligence
Joe Biden made the call. I'll even say, finally, there's
one thing that he did that was right. However, on
the downside of that, now we know all of our

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greatest fears have been realized that Afghanistan now is a
safe harbor for terrorist organizations. That's what we also discovered. Anyway,
Ross appreciate it. Uh. Sharon is in Texas. Next, All right,

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let's get back to our busy phones. Eight hundred ninety one, Shawn,
our number, Pennsylvania. Nancy. I'm sorry, Lynn is next? How
are you? Lynn? Glad you called? I'm fine, Thank you
for taking my call. I just had a little comment
about Nancy Pelosi. The fact that she went to Taiwan
is the why are we broadcasting where she's going? Why

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does the whole world need to notice. If we wouldn't
have done that, do you think that China would have
been up in arms that she was going to be
in Taiwan? Yeah? Probably, I mean I think I think
China's definitely feel on their oats. New Ingrich laid it
out perfectly. I mean, if the world united, and this
is what General Millie was. He was in the region,

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and he was meeting with his counterparts from twenty six
other countries, and I give him a lot of credit.
And the purpose of that was how to isolate China
if we need to, And if all trading with China stopped,
and if we stopped sending them our farm products and
food products, etcetera, etce, they'd eventually go broke because their

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entire economy, sort of like Putin's economy, is based on
energy and energy alone, and China's economy is based on exports.
And the minute the world unites against importing any Chinese products,
they're screwed, and eventually they would then have a revolution
in their own country. The way I would defeat Vladimir

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Putin is I would be energy dominant, and I'd be
providing all the energy needs of Western Europe. That's what
I would do. And if I was going to deal
with China and a hostile regime there, the single best
thing I would do is form an alliance. And when
you see Chinese aggression, you instantly put into place practices
to stop importing Chinese goods. And if you do that,

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that's going to impact both their economies. And the way
to defeat them is defeat them financially, because when people
can't eat and there's no money, at that point, their
very regime is under threat. And yet nobody seems to
think of the simple solutions that those are the two
big things I would do to take on Russia and China,

(27:57):
two hostile regimes. And I appreciate the call eight hundred
and nine for one Shawn, if you want to be
a part of the program,