November 6, 2025 • 29 mins
The lead event is Sean Hannity's special Patriot Awards broadcast, which features bestselling author and Outkick founder Clay Travis. Sean frames their discussion around Clay's new book, "Balls: How Trump, Young Men, and Sports Saved America," highlighting how sports act as a unifying force above politics while also exploring the intersection of culture, masculinity, and politics in America. Guest Clay Travis dives deep into why he believes sports are the last meritocratic institution and how the politicization of athletics parallels broader societal shifts. This matters because, as Sean and Clay explain, issues like identity politics, the erosion of traditional manhood, and the future of political movements are all at stake and the answers may reside in unexpected places like the scoreboard and locker room.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hour two Sean Hannity's Show, eight hundred and nine to
four one.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Shawn is a number if you want to be a
part of the program. So here we are. We have
the Patriot Awards tonight. It is sold out. It is
going to be spectacular. Milania Trump will be here, Erica
Kirk will be here, Jason Alden is here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
He's in the house.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And we have the greatest lineup of American heroes you
could ever want to that you'd ever want to know
in your life. So pleased and honored to have all
of my colleagues, my friends among them. Clay Travis, you
know he founded out kick, the most influential sports media
(00:46):
site on the Internet, and the co host of the
extraordinarily successful Clay Travis buck Sexton Show and the author
of five books. He now has beat Me by One,
Dixie Land, Delight on Rocky Top, Republicans By Sneakers Too, America,
American Playbook, and his new book is just out today.
(01:06):
It's called Balls Out Trump, young Men in Sports Saved America,
which I agree with.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
My friend Klay Travis. So glad to have you on
the show every once in a while our studios. When
I used to be in New York.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
His studio was next to my studio, and I jump
in with you know, him and Buck and we just
start shooting the Adam Schiff and we had a great
time together always, and he's been great on TV. He's
been great on Fox and Non I consider him now
a close front.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Sean.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
That's an incredible introduction. Let me continue the praise a
little bit. I think you are the most successful and
influential person in the history of television. I don't nobody
will brag on this, but it's hard to have. That's
a big state about it in our lives. It's hard
to do it first. People know this, but I don't
think they really think about it that much. It's really
(01:55):
hard to do television well, and it's really hard to
do television well for And I'm not trying to date
you here, Sean, because I think you started when you
were fifteen. But listen, it like thirty five years straight
you've been doing a show now. I mean, it really is.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I don't even think you were born when I started
on radio.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Let me put it that way. I was nineteen eighty seven,
if you can believe it. What year were you born?
Seventy nine. I'm the oldest gen X. You're the oldest
gen X. Well, I'm still part of the great Well,
I don't know what am I baby, I'm a baby boomer.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I'm barely you're sun tanity. I think that goes without it.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So, you and and Buck Well one day talking about
me on the air, and Clay and I just have
a fun relationship and actually came up on TV last night.
And Clay loves sports. He's got an encyclopedic knowledge of sports.
I love it, but not as much as he does.
Him and my son and Steven A.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You put them in a room, they're not coming out
for forty eight straight hours, and they're going to go
back and forth and just be, you know, one up
in each other the whole way. And so but over
the years, I've had a number of bets with Clay
and he's yet to win one. And you were talking
about it in the air.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It was funny. How let me play it, Phoenix kf Y.
I also love the state of Arizona, great place. Yeah
this is true, but listen to her take.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Listen to Hannity the other day, and he said that
he's made several bets with you and you haven't paid
up at all. Comments I owe showing a lot of money.
It's true. I mean rain with this.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
They can play they can play it on Hannity. I
owe Sean hundreds of dollars. I think he's won every
sports bet with me, and it's convin convenient.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I don't carry a lot of cash typically.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
This Sean Hannity is smoking the OutKick guy when it
comes to sports. I've lost a lot of bets with Sean.
I owe him hundreds of dollars, and it is funny
every time I see him, I'm like, sorry, I just
don't have a lot of cash. I do not typically
carry a lot of cash. But he's not He's not
lying when he said that I owe him and that
(04:01):
that so far I haven't paid him.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I got to.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You should have to like join him in their New
York City studio next time you're in New York and
pay up on air Clay, I do make amends. He's
dodging New York City like you are. Though now he's
got his studio down in Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
He's and you're dodging it too. What are you talking
about you're in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
The thing is, I do it for kicks and giggles.
I never really, it was never a real bet to me.
But it's just fun. And you're like, all right, five
hundred bucks. Thousand bucks. By the way, it's not one hundreds,
it's thousands. But you know, not that I'm keeping county,
not that I'm going I love your encyclopedia encyclopedic knowledge
of sports. I love your insight into politics. Where where
(04:45):
did this passion all come from? Because it's really dovetails
into the new book. By the way, we're putting in
up on Hannity dot com. Balls, how Trump Young Men's
Sports saved America? Amazon dot com, Hannity dot Com as
of today, in bookstores now all around the Where did
this passion come from?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, it's a really good question. And I've always been
a huge sports fan. And the thing that I love
about sports is when your team wins or your team
makes a basket, you don't think about the race, the gender,
or the ethnicity, or how someone voted around.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You in the stadium or the arena.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You're all united in a common tribe and you turn
around and you give high fives to everybody. And I
got an idea here for you, Sean, because I think
it's true. Nobody's beat it. The last trusted source that
everybody in America believes in is the scoreboard. And why
is that? Because we try to get it right. If
somebody steps on the line for a three pointer, we
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go review it. Did they get their feet in or not?
For a touchdown, everybody starts at zero. The clock does
not change for anybody. It's the ultimate meritocracy. It's the
best man or woman wins. And when I saw Trump win,
and he did such a great job of adding sports,
you know the Leah Thomas. The book opens with Leah Thomas,
(06:03):
of six foot three man winning an NCAA women's championship
wearing a swimsuit. To me, it was the culmination of
woke identity politics taking over sports. And I've been covering
this because I used to just be a guy who
would talk about sports, and then it really started about
twenty fourteen and Shaun, when I went back and really
thought about it, it was Michael sam if you remember him.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
He was an NFL player, but the.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Only reason people covered him was because he was gay,
and prior to that, you get a lot of attention,
but all of our coverage went to the talented athlete.
Not to say there might not be drama or extenuating
circumstances off the field, but it was the best quarterbacks
or the best hitters, or the best pitchers or whoever
it was in field of play that we would cover.
(06:52):
And that was when for me, they started trying to
take over sports. And I think it was all about
winning culture and recognizing that a lot of young men,
you find them in sports. It's harder to get people
to come to where you are, You have to go
to where they are. And I saw what they were
trying to do. They were trying to take over sports,
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and it turned to me sports into another form of politics,
and I just couldn't shut up about it. And obviously
then we led into Colin Kaepernick and then the Trump
era and COVID and everything else, and they became inextricably intertwined,
which is a big part of this book. And obviously
the other thing is you've got a son, I've got
three boys. Manhood's under attack in a way that we've
(07:35):
never seen, and I think we have to make being
a man good again in the culture and that's a
huge part of this book too, getting men to recognize
that masculinity is not toxic at all, and that we
need more of it, not less of it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I can't disagree with you in any way.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And by the way, the best part of Al Kick
I have come to really like and admire Riley game.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
She's amazing, and like Charlie Kirk and like Turning Point USA.
They go into these hostile environments and she's been through
a lot. They put her through a lot, and what happened.
I mean, she tied Lee Thomas. She tied her in
that race, and then they said, oh, We're just going
to give it to this person.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And I'm like, no, that's not how it works.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You just don't pick the one you like and make
the politically correct choice. I do believe that all of
this combined led to the backlash in twenty four and
the election of Trump. I also believe that they overreached
by so much. And you go into this in your
book and you explain how Democrats are alienating men and
(08:44):
why Trump really won.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That is a big part of the equation.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It is It is the equation I think, and the
question that the book also grapples with is how do
we grow it going forward?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You know this book really idea came out, Sean.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I went to talk at the University of Chicago and
it was about gender in the twenty twenty four election,
and you should have seen it. I'm sure you've talked
at some of these places, but you have to go
sometimes to audiences where you're the bad guy. And I
said on stage, I said, there are no masculine Democrats.
And men were super impressed with Trump, especially after Butler Pennsylvania.
(09:23):
It was impossible not to think that guy is a
badass when he stood up like that and screamed fight, fight, fight,
And I think he won the election on that day.
I think that moment is going to resonate for long
after the life of anybody listening right now. But I said,
who's the most masculine Democrat, Chuck Schumer?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Is it? Mayor Pete?
Speaker 5 (09:42):
And the.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Moderator there cut me off, Sean, and she said, but
Trump's like a grandpa And I said, yeah, Grandpa took
a bullet to the year. But a lot of kids
reached out to me after that and they said she
saw that as an insult, and all these kids emailed
me after that went viral, Sean and they said, no, no, no, no,
I look up to my grandpa more than anyone in
(10:06):
the world. And that's what we need. We need strong
male figures that are role models. What she saw as
an insult, Oh, Trump's like a grandpa. All these young
men they look at Trump and they see him as
an aspirational avatar of masculinity. Not that he's perfect, but
a strong male figure who has taken care of his family,
(10:29):
and honestly, he's trying to take care of as much
as he can with the country.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And so it's funny.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
When I finished that, by the way, you'll like this,
my wife said, how did it go? And I said,
the crowd at the end, it was like I had
just ripped the head off a kitten, Like they were
just sitting there and done silence. And I didn't know
how it was going to play, but it went viral
on the internet. They did not love what I said
in that room. All right, quick break right back. We'll
continue one with my friend Klay. Travis's brand new book
(10:56):
is out today. It's called Balls, How Trump, Young Men
and Sports Saved America. We've got a link on Hannity
dot Com. It's on Amazon dot com and of course
bookstores all around the country. And don't forget the Patriot
Awards tonight. Just watch on Foxnation dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We've got such a great show anyway, more worth Clay
Travis on the other side than your call's coming up.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Eight hundred and nine to four one, Shawn, as we continue.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
The one radio show you don't want to miss. Sean
Hannity is on right now.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
All right, we continue now with our friend Klay Travis,
who's with us. By the way, is brand new book
is out today. It's on Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com,
bookstores around the country. Balls, how Trump young men and
sports saved America. You know, one of the things after
the assassination of Charlie I went back and I watched
videos of him and Erica and then you can count
(12:25):
people like Riley Gains and all the young people that
are participants now in the you know, growing exponentially turning point.
And what they do is so remarkable because they enter
that hostile environment where you would think that kids maybe
learn about comparative religions or God, and they go in
there they would challenge conventional beliefs maybe shocking to kids
(12:48):
that never heard hookup culture may not be the choice
you want to make in your life.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Look, I think all you just did on is a
huge part of what we're talking about in the book,
because there's a sense for young men and young women
that things aren't working and how do we get back
to a society where men respect women and women respect men.
But men don't want to be effeminate men and women
(13:14):
don't want to be masculine women because what that does
is actually divide us. You can be equal and different,
and that's what makes unions between men and women work.
We can be equal, but we don't have to be
the same. And I think when you talk about Riley
Gaines and so many people out there that are going
and speaking on these campuses, and I try to do
(13:35):
it as much as I can too. Through the prism
often of sports, Sean is finding those students there. The
man of sphere is out there. They're going to find
someone to emulate, someone to follow. If you're wondering about
the world that your kids are in. You've got two kids, Sean,
I've got three seventeen, fifteen and eleven, all three of
minor boys. This book is about trying to see the
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world through their eyes, project what the world can be
like if we deliver correctly as men and women, and
if we can build on the win that Trump had
in twenty four because as good as any president is,
they're only as good as the number of wins that
they can string together after their term, as well in
terms of other elections, and so I think people are
(14:20):
really going to like this book, Sean. I want to
get it on the New York Times list because I
want it in the front of bookstores.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We have one on the New York Times list. And
by the way, I now have my copy. I had
somebody on my team go to the local bookstore and
buy it, and I'm reading it now as we speak.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I urge everyone to get it.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's called Balls, How Trump Young Men in Sports Saved America.
It will make you think you're going to learn a lot.
It breaks through conventional politically correct thinking. It's on Hannity
dot com if you want to order a copy. It's
on Amazon dot com if you want to order a copy.
It's some bookstores now around the country. And I have
the pleasure of seeing Clay tonight. I'm looking for forward
(15:00):
to seeing you hanging with you and my best Also
the Buck Sexton is a great guy, and congrats on
all of your success.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I hope people get the book today. Yeah, just one downside.
That's all amazing. You know, I forgot my wallet again, Sean.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'm not looking for the month. I never really mean,
I just.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I don't know how it happened to get like, you know,
always win sports fantasy leagues.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
My son, Yeah, he's great. He like wins, you know,
he's in like fively.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
He doesn't bet, by the way, he's not a gambler,
but he just does sports fantasy and he's.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So good at it.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's unreal. Now, your your son is awesome. Uh and uh,
I just wish I had the money. It's I really
feel bad about it. But yeah, go get the book.
Maybe eventually I'll have money to pay Sean.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Off autographed the book and we'll call it even.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, that's definitely not a good deal for you. But
in all seriousness, you're killing it. I'm glad to call
you a friend. Then I'll see you tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Same here, brother, All right, Stephen Colbert, not funny.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
You know what why I got fire?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I have no no conservative that I know ever came
out and said fire Steven Gobert. Nobody watches him, and
he actually goes I guess on a podcast summer. I
have no idea where he was. I showed it on
TV last night. I am more conservative than people think.
Clay Travis made a good point follow up question, tell
me where you're conservative. But here's where I would argue.
(16:23):
I call complete bs on this. When Joe Biden didn't
know what day of the week it was, hullo could
an utter two sentences together? Was a complete, incoherent cognitive mess.
I don't remember Colbert doing what we did pretty much
every day and every night, and that is play Joe Biden,
(16:44):
in his own words, showing his significant radical cognitive decline,
but he says he's more conservative than people think.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Well, that was what you'd call free material. And I
hate to say this.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
You know, I'm sorry New York City, that commie Marxist
mum Donnie one.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
But I'm gonna be blunt.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You know what that's called free material for me on
a daily basis. Every time Jasmine Crockett speaks, every time
Bernie Grandpa Bernie speaks, every time the squad speaks. That's
called ah show prep. And so anyway, here's him trying
to make this case.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
You'd think, you know, old, you know, people perceive me
as this sort of lefty figure. I think I'm more
conservative than people think. I just happen to be talking
about a government in extremes. And so what I'm giving
you is my reaction video to the day. And my
reaction video is like, you know, as like the screen.
(17:49):
I'm not sure what other reaction would be, an honest one,
it's hard to have a balanced reaction to the idea
of troops on street of a city that actually is
not an undergoing invasion.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
No, but it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
It's it's not something you want to react to a
president even before he was elected in twenty twenty. We Oh,
there's just eleven that they're all men and women that
created by you know, the the you know thing, the.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Thing, Joe God, the creator of everything. That guy.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Anyway, eight hundred nine one Shaw is a number you
want to be a part of the program. Wow, still
a lot of people want to react to this New York,
New York song. I can't believe it. Joe Pegs now
I wrote it. He sang it. He's got such great pipes.
I'm very I'm very fond of Joe, have been for
a long time friend of this program. Gary and Arizona. Gary,
how are you glad you called? Thanks for checking in,
(18:43):
And we are on Long Island in New York and
we're doing talk radio today.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (18:51):
That parody was fantastic. I believe somebody called in and
said that it was being disgraceful to Frank Sinatra, which
it wasn't. His song was when New York was a
wonderful place to be, and the parody is showing what
happened to it, especially now that this mundombie got in.
(19:14):
That's the difference between the two. I don't know how
they voted for this communist. I hope it doesn't turn
out as bad as I think it's going to do.
But there's something's wrong with these people the way they voted.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I sat on the air for the sake of my
friends that I left behind over two years ago. Now,
I wanted the best for them. I didn't want this
for them.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Now. I can't tell you where we are right now.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
The county that I'm born in was born in, was
Nashaull County Long Island, and it went hardcore, solidly read
Bruce Blakeman as the county executive.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I like him a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I saw him earlier today and he welcomed me back,
asked if I was coming back. I said, you did
a great job, but the states sucks. Your county's great,
but the state sucks. And he goes, well, we're going
to fix that too, and he's very optimistic. I do
admire the people that want to stay in the fight,
like I really came to like Jack Chittarelli. You know,
(20:15):
I didn't go up to New Jersey because I felt like,
you know, getting a pork roll. Even though Mikey Cheryl
didn't know what OM was, I thought he had a
real shot. We ignored it, you know, three years ago,
four years ago. And the sad thing is nearly a
quarter of a million people left migrated out of New
Jersey in a three year.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Period of time, and that you know, the voting pool.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I would I would argue the majority of those people
would have voted for Jack Chitdarelli and it would have
been a very different night.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But they've been chased away.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
You know, these states are losing, that are losing this
massive population, this mass migration. They are pushing people away
and and a lot of people. You know, it's a
hard to say vision for a lot of people. Wasn't
that hard for me? Because you know, I was a
radio nomad forever, and you know I lived in Rhode
Island five years, California five years, Alabama two years, Georgia
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four years, number two decades in New York and then
now I'm in the free state of Flora. I can
live in a box if you really want to know
the truth. Not everybody in my life can live in
a box. So I have to have a property to
live in. But putting it out a side, I mean,
it's so much nicer, and the people are nicer, and
it's much safer, and the taxes are lower, and the
(21:33):
quality of life is outstanding. I like to just listen
to the ocean. I'm based sounds silly. I find peace
and God and serenity there. So anyway, my friend, I
appreciate you call. Thanks for your input on this. Jason
in Texas. God bless Texas. Jason, how are you? Thanks
for checking in?
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Doing great so I'm glad to take the call. In
response to your colleague yesterday the profess to atheist, and
we always need to get the question of why good,
why bad things happen to good people. It comes from
even people that have good faith. They asked that question,
(22:13):
and my family members have asked that, and the best
answer I.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Could give you is that us as humans, as mortals,
we need that perception. If every day was a sunny
day and people didn't get cancer, you know, and died
at an early age, and you know, plane from offness guy,
all the bad things that happened in this world, we
(22:37):
would have no perception or appreciation of the sun, the
sunshine days, you know, the happiness, the joy and the
love that people feel. You wouldn't be able to appreciate
that without the context. And that's the hardest part to
get across.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think, you know, if if, if what I said yesterday,
when God, when Moses saw the burning bush and was
speaking to God, and who should I say?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Sent me?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And he said, I am, there's a lot I interpret
from that. This is my interpretation. It's other biblical scholars interpretation,
and I've read a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Of them and C. S.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Lewis is one of them, and great, you know, let's
call apologetics and I've read David Limbaugh is one of
the best and he's one of my best friends, and
we've talked at length about a lot of these issues.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And that's Russia's brother.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And he you know, you just that that's predicated un
a belief always was, is present, and always will be.
And it's hard for us to wrap our minds around it.
If God wanted us to know that, he would have
told us. But you cannot convince me. You know, the
guy started talking about well quantum particles. I'm like, well,
(23:52):
where did the quantum particles come from? If not from
a God, all powerful, almighty creator that envision this. Now,
I don't have the answer why good things happen about people.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The Bible does tell us.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Though, that we will all go through challenges in our
life and to prepare for them, and that God puts
us in seasons in our life, some that are much
harder than others. Why did Donald Trump I have to
go through, you know, four years of absolute hell and
his family and then get to the side of it,
and then, you know, I think he's you know, the
greatest president we've had by far in decades and decades
(24:31):
and decades.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
In this country.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But I do believe in the promise that you know,
the Bible says the eye had not seen, nor had
the ear heard, nor has it entered into the hearts
of man. What God has stored in stored for those
that love the truth. And in my Father's house are
many mansions. And I go, let not your heart be troubled.
I go to prepare a place for you, so that
where I am, you shall also be. I believe that
(24:56):
with my heart. Now, I'm never going to talk an
atheist into it. But he seems to want to judge God,
but yeah, can't. He but believes that something can come
from nothing, because to be an atheist you have to
that's what you have to believe.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Well, and that's where the perception comes in.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
They have to wrap their mind around the fact that
without certain things we will not be able to discern
the opposite. The counterpart to that, without some sort of sadness,
you can never experience true joy. You know, if every
day was sunny, you wouldn't have you would never appreciate
the sunshine without a rainy day, there is no upside.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Let's put it this way.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Everyone in their life has an opportunity where they're afraid.
You know, you get on the high dive for the
first time as a kid and you look down. Most kids,
I think the natural inclination would be to be scared.
And you cannot be courageous unless you're confronted with fear
and a moment that you have to you have to
(25:59):
trans send the fear and do it anyway. And you
know that that does just describe a lot of things
in life. I could tell you that if I'd be
lying to you, if I didn't tell you. The first
time I did a radio show, I was sweating and
probably having a mini panic attack. But you know, then
after I finished, I wanted to do it again and
(26:20):
again and again. The first time I spoke in front
of an audience, same thing. Number one fear most people
have is public speaking. I've given zero thought except writing
my monologue for tonight's Box News Patriot Awards.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm like excited, I want to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's fun, so but it you know that that accumulates
over time. That's called confidence. But I want and that
I just want people, especially young people listening to the show,
don't be don't let fear stop you, intimidate you prevent
you from living life to the fullest. You can feel
that fear feeling it isn't a bad thing, but don't
(26:56):
let it stop you, paralyze you, or impede you from
moving forward. At that point when you dive off that board,
jump off that board, you will be that much more
courageous for the next challenge in life. And you know
there are seasons in the Bible that they describe where
God will pull back from us and so that we
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eventually cry out to Him to come back.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Please.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I can't do this feeling empty like this, and I've
experienced that where mind, body, and spirit. I believe all
of it, and I don't really care. You know the
biggest misperception, And tell me if you agree with this.
Everyone has this added to all Christians. They're holier than now. Ah,
these self righteous Ah. I'm sick and tired of them
forcing their values down our throat and proselytize.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I don't proselytize. Believe whatever you want. We live in
a free country. We believe in freedom of religion. But
I can tell you this, to me, the first step
to becoming a Christian is acknowledging that you can't do
it on your own and that you failed and that
you want help and that you want to be better.
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Doesn't mean you're instantaneously perfect, just the opposite. It's a process.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 8 (28:11):
I do wholeheartedly so, and I'll experiencing those things same
things myself.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I think it's part of the you know, human experience.
I think it's universal. We all experience that. That's part
of our humanity. You know, you got to nurture your body.
You know you've got to stimulate your mind. And you also,
you know that quiet time I was talking about earlier.
You know, I like to get quiet. I like to
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just turn off the TV and put down my phone,
which I don't do very often. And I like to
see the majesty of God's creation and really look at it.
In if I'm out of beach, I'll look at the beach.
If if I see a beautiful full moon, I'll try
to pause and stop and reflect on it. If I
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see a clear night and I can see Mars and Venus,
believe it or not, you can, and I have a
great telescope, you know it's majestic. Then to understand their
universes within universes within universes within universes, and we keep
discovering even more.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
To me, that's so deep and profound.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I'm never going to convince an atheist, but for them,
if there's no God, you have to believe something comes
from nothing or else, and I don't believe with the
perfection of creation that that's even possible. Anyway, appreciate the call,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
The final hour roundup is next.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
You do not want to miss it, and stay tuned
for the final hour free for All on the Sean
Hannity Show.
Hour two Sean Hannity's Show, eight hundred and nine to
four one.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Shawn is a number if you want to be a
part of the program. So here we are. We have
the Patriot Awards tonight. It is sold out. It is
going to be spectacular. Milania Trump will be here, Erica
Kirk will be here, Jason Alden is here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
He's in the house.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And we have the greatest lineup of American heroes you
could ever want to that you'd ever want to know
in your life. So pleased and honored to have all
of my colleagues, my friends among them. Clay Travis, you
know he founded out kick, the most influential sports media
(00:46):
site on the Internet, and the co host of the
extraordinarily successful Clay Travis buck Sexton Show and the author
of five books. He now has beat Me by One,
Dixie Land, Delight on Rocky Top, Republicans By Sneakers Too, America,
American Playbook, and his new book is just out today.
(01:06):
It's called Balls Out Trump, young Men in Sports Saved America,
which I agree with.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
My friend Klay Travis. So glad to have you on
the show every once in a while our studios. When
I used to be in New York.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
His studio was next to my studio, and I jump
in with you know, him and Buck and we just
start shooting the Adam Schiff and we had a great
time together always, and he's been great on TV. He's
been great on Fox and Non I consider him now
a close front.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Sean.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
That's an incredible introduction. Let me continue the praise a
little bit. I think you are the most successful and
influential person in the history of television. I don't nobody
will brag on this, but it's hard to have. That's
a big state about it in our lives. It's hard
to do it first. People know this, but I don't
think they really think about it that much. It's really
(01:55):
hard to do television well, and it's really hard to
do television well for And I'm not trying to date
you here, Sean, because I think you started when you
were fifteen. But listen, it like thirty five years straight
you've been doing a show now. I mean, it really is.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I don't even think you were born when I started
on radio.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Let me put it that way. I was nineteen eighty seven,
if you can believe it. What year were you born?
Seventy nine. I'm the oldest gen X. You're the oldest
gen X. Well, I'm still part of the great Well,
I don't know what am I baby, I'm a baby boomer.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I'm barely you're sun tanity. I think that goes without it.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So, you and and Buck Well one day talking about
me on the air, and Clay and I just have
a fun relationship and actually came up on TV last night.
And Clay loves sports. He's got an encyclopedic knowledge of sports.
I love it, but not as much as he does.
Him and my son and Steven A.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You put them in a room, they're not coming out
for forty eight straight hours, and they're going to go
back and forth and just be, you know, one up
in each other the whole way. And so but over
the years, I've had a number of bets with Clay
and he's yet to win one. And you were talking
about it in the air.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It was funny. How let me play it, Phoenix kf Y.
I also love the state of Arizona, great place. Yeah
this is true, but listen to her take.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Listen to Hannity the other day, and he said that
he's made several bets with you and you haven't paid
up at all. Comments I owe showing a lot of money.
It's true. I mean rain with this.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
They can play they can play it on Hannity. I
owe Sean hundreds of dollars. I think he's won every
sports bet with me, and it's convin convenient.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I don't carry a lot of cash typically.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
This Sean Hannity is smoking the OutKick guy when it
comes to sports. I've lost a lot of bets with Sean.
I owe him hundreds of dollars, and it is funny
every time I see him, I'm like, sorry, I just
don't have a lot of cash. I do not typically
carry a lot of cash. But he's not He's not
lying when he said that I owe him and that
(04:01):
that so far I haven't paid him.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I got to.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You should have to like join him in their New
York City studio next time you're in New York and
pay up on air Clay, I do make amends. He's
dodging New York City like you are. Though now he's
got his studio down in Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
He's and you're dodging it too. What are you talking
about you're in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
The thing is, I do it for kicks and giggles.
I never really, it was never a real bet to me.
But it's just fun. And you're like, all right, five
hundred bucks. Thousand bucks. By the way, it's not one hundreds,
it's thousands. But you know, not that I'm keeping county,
not that I'm going I love your encyclopedia encyclopedic knowledge
of sports. I love your insight into politics. Where where
(04:45):
did this passion all come from? Because it's really dovetails
into the new book. By the way, we're putting in
up on Hannity dot com. Balls, how Trump Young Men's
Sports saved America? Amazon dot com, Hannity dot Com as
of today, in bookstores now all around the Where did
this passion come from?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, it's a really good question. And I've always been
a huge sports fan. And the thing that I love
about sports is when your team wins or your team
makes a basket, you don't think about the race, the gender,
or the ethnicity, or how someone voted around.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You in the stadium or the arena.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You're all united in a common tribe and you turn
around and you give high fives to everybody. And I
got an idea here for you, Sean, because I think
it's true. Nobody's beat it. The last trusted source that
everybody in America believes in is the scoreboard. And why
is that? Because we try to get it right. If
somebody steps on the line for a three pointer, we
(05:41):
go review it. Did they get their feet in or not?
For a touchdown, everybody starts at zero. The clock does
not change for anybody. It's the ultimate meritocracy. It's the
best man or woman wins. And when I saw Trump win,
and he did such a great job of adding sports,
you know the Leah Thomas. The book opens with Leah Thomas,
(06:03):
of six foot three man winning an NCAA women's championship
wearing a swimsuit. To me, it was the culmination of
woke identity politics taking over sports. And I've been covering
this because I used to just be a guy who
would talk about sports, and then it really started about
twenty fourteen and Shaun, when I went back and really
thought about it, it was Michael sam if you remember him.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
He was an NFL player, but the.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Only reason people covered him was because he was gay,
and prior to that, you get a lot of attention,
but all of our coverage went to the talented athlete.
Not to say there might not be drama or extenuating
circumstances off the field, but it was the best quarterbacks
or the best hitters, or the best pitchers or whoever
it was in field of play that we would cover.
(06:52):
And that was when for me, they started trying to
take over sports. And I think it was all about
winning culture and recognizing that a lot of young men,
you find them in sports. It's harder to get people
to come to where you are, You have to go
to where they are. And I saw what they were
trying to do. They were trying to take over sports,
(07:13):
and it turned to me sports into another form of politics,
and I just couldn't shut up about it. And obviously
then we led into Colin Kaepernick and then the Trump
era and COVID and everything else, and they became inextricably intertwined,
which is a big part of this book. And obviously
the other thing is you've got a son, I've got
three boys. Manhood's under attack in a way that we've
(07:35):
never seen, and I think we have to make being
a man good again in the culture and that's a
huge part of this book too, getting men to recognize
that masculinity is not toxic at all, and that we
need more of it, not less of it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I can't disagree with you in any way.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And by the way, the best part of Al Kick
I have come to really like and admire Riley game.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
She's amazing, and like Charlie Kirk and like Turning Point USA.
They go into these hostile environments and she's been through
a lot. They put her through a lot, and what happened.
I mean, she tied Lee Thomas. She tied her in
that race, and then they said, oh, We're just going
to give it to this person.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And I'm like, no, that's not how it works.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You just don't pick the one you like and make
the politically correct choice. I do believe that all of
this combined led to the backlash in twenty four and
the election of Trump. I also believe that they overreached
by so much. And you go into this in your
book and you explain how Democrats are alienating men and
(08:44):
why Trump really won.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That is a big part of the equation.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It is It is the equation I think, and the
question that the book also grapples with is how do
we grow it going forward?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You know this book really idea came out, Sean.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I went to talk at the University of Chicago and
it was about gender in the twenty twenty four election,
and you should have seen it. I'm sure you've talked
at some of these places, but you have to go
sometimes to audiences where you're the bad guy. And I
said on stage, I said, there are no masculine Democrats.
And men were super impressed with Trump, especially after Butler Pennsylvania.
(09:23):
It was impossible not to think that guy is a
badass when he stood up like that and screamed fight, fight, fight,
And I think he won the election on that day.
I think that moment is going to resonate for long
after the life of anybody listening right now. But I said,
who's the most masculine Democrat, Chuck Schumer?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Is it? Mayor Pete?
Speaker 5 (09:42):
And the.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Moderator there cut me off, Sean, and she said, but
Trump's like a grandpa And I said, yeah, Grandpa took
a bullet to the year. But a lot of kids
reached out to me after that and they said she
saw that as an insult, and all these kids emailed
me after that went viral, Sean and they said, no, no, no, no,
I look up to my grandpa more than anyone in
(10:06):
the world. And that's what we need. We need strong
male figures that are role models. What she saw as
an insult, Oh, Trump's like a grandpa. All these young
men they look at Trump and they see him as
an aspirational avatar of masculinity. Not that he's perfect, but
a strong male figure who has taken care of his family,
(10:29):
and honestly, he's trying to take care of as much
as he can with the country.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And so it's funny.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
When I finished that, by the way, you'll like this,
my wife said, how did it go? And I said,
the crowd at the end, it was like I had
just ripped the head off a kitten, Like they were
just sitting there and done silence. And I didn't know
how it was going to play, but it went viral
on the internet. They did not love what I said
in that room. All right, quick break right back. We'll
continue one with my friend Klay. Travis's brand new book
(10:56):
is out today. It's called Balls, How Trump, Young Men
and Sports Saved America. We've got a link on Hannity
dot Com. It's on Amazon dot com and of course
bookstores all around the country. And don't forget the Patriot
Awards tonight. Just watch on Foxnation dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We've got such a great show anyway, more worth Clay
Travis on the other side than your call's coming up.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Eight hundred and nine to four one, Shawn, as we continue.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
The one radio show you don't want to miss. Sean
Hannity is on right now.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
All right, we continue now with our friend Klay Travis,
who's with us. By the way, is brand new book
is out today. It's on Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com,
bookstores around the country. Balls, how Trump young men and
sports saved America. You know, one of the things after
the assassination of Charlie I went back and I watched
videos of him and Erica and then you can count
(12:25):
people like Riley Gains and all the young people that
are participants now in the you know, growing exponentially turning point.
And what they do is so remarkable because they enter
that hostile environment where you would think that kids maybe
learn about comparative religions or God, and they go in
there they would challenge conventional beliefs maybe shocking to kids
(12:48):
that never heard hookup culture may not be the choice
you want to make in your life.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Look, I think all you just did on is a
huge part of what we're talking about in the book,
because there's a sense for young men and young women
that things aren't working and how do we get back
to a society where men respect women and women respect men.
But men don't want to be effeminate men and women
(13:14):
don't want to be masculine women because what that does
is actually divide us. You can be equal and different,
and that's what makes unions between men and women work.
We can be equal, but we don't have to be
the same. And I think when you talk about Riley
Gaines and so many people out there that are going
and speaking on these campuses, and I try to do
(13:35):
it as much as I can too. Through the prism
often of sports, Sean is finding those students there. The
man of sphere is out there. They're going to find
someone to emulate, someone to follow. If you're wondering about
the world that your kids are in. You've got two kids, Sean,
I've got three seventeen, fifteen and eleven, all three of
minor boys. This book is about trying to see the
(13:58):
world through their eyes, project what the world can be
like if we deliver correctly as men and women, and
if we can build on the win that Trump had
in twenty four because as good as any president is,
they're only as good as the number of wins that
they can string together after their term, as well in
terms of other elections, and so I think people are
(14:20):
really going to like this book, Sean. I want to
get it on the New York Times list because I
want it in the front of bookstores.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We have one on the New York Times list. And
by the way, I now have my copy. I had
somebody on my team go to the local bookstore and
buy it, and I'm reading it now as we speak.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I urge everyone to get it.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's called Balls, How Trump Young Men in Sports Saved America.
It will make you think you're going to learn a lot.
It breaks through conventional politically correct thinking. It's on Hannity
dot com if you want to order a copy. It's
on Amazon dot com if you want to order a copy.
It's some bookstores now around the country. And I have
the pleasure of seeing Clay tonight. I'm looking for forward
(15:00):
to seeing you hanging with you and my best Also
the Buck Sexton is a great guy, and congrats on
all of your success.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I hope people get the book today. Yeah, just one downside.
That's all amazing. You know, I forgot my wallet again, Sean.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'm not looking for the month. I never really mean,
I just.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I don't know how it happened to get like, you know,
always win sports fantasy leagues.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
My son, Yeah, he's great. He like wins, you know,
he's in like fively.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
He doesn't bet, by the way, he's not a gambler,
but he just does sports fantasy and he's.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So good at it.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's unreal. Now, your your son is awesome. Uh and uh,
I just wish I had the money. It's I really
feel bad about it. But yeah, go get the book.
Maybe eventually I'll have money to pay Sean.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Off autographed the book and we'll call it even.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, that's definitely not a good deal for you. But
in all seriousness, you're killing it. I'm glad to call
you a friend. Then I'll see you tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Same here, brother, All right, Stephen Colbert, not funny.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
You know what why I got fire?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I have no no conservative that I know ever came
out and said fire Steven Gobert. Nobody watches him, and
he actually goes I guess on a podcast summer. I
have no idea where he was. I showed it on
TV last night. I am more conservative than people think.
Clay Travis made a good point follow up question, tell
me where you're conservative. But here's where I would argue.
(16:23):
I call complete bs on this. When Joe Biden didn't
know what day of the week it was, hullo could
an utter two sentences together? Was a complete, incoherent cognitive mess.
I don't remember Colbert doing what we did pretty much
every day and every night, and that is play Joe Biden,
(16:44):
in his own words, showing his significant radical cognitive decline,
but he says he's more conservative than people think.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Well, that was what you'd call free material. And I
hate to say this.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
You know, I'm sorry New York City, that commie Marxist
mum Donnie one.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
But I'm gonna be blunt.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You know what that's called free material for me on
a daily basis. Every time Jasmine Crockett speaks, every time
Bernie Grandpa Bernie speaks, every time the squad speaks. That's
called ah show prep. And so anyway, here's him trying
to make this case.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
You'd think, you know, old, you know, people perceive me
as this sort of lefty figure. I think I'm more
conservative than people think. I just happen to be talking
about a government in extremes. And so what I'm giving
you is my reaction video to the day. And my
reaction video is like, you know, as like the screen.
(17:49):
I'm not sure what other reaction would be, an honest one,
it's hard to have a balanced reaction to the idea
of troops on street of a city that actually is
not an undergoing invasion.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
No, but it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
It's it's not something you want to react to a
president even before he was elected in twenty twenty. We Oh,
there's just eleven that they're all men and women that
created by you know, the the you know thing, the.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Thing, Joe God, the creator of everything. That guy.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Anyway, eight hundred nine one Shaw is a number you
want to be a part of the program. Wow, still
a lot of people want to react to this New York,
New York song. I can't believe it. Joe Pegs now
I wrote it. He sang it. He's got such great pipes.
I'm very I'm very fond of Joe, have been for
a long time friend of this program. Gary and Arizona. Gary,
how are you glad you called? Thanks for checking in,
(18:43):
And we are on Long Island in New York and
we're doing talk radio today.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (18:51):
That parody was fantastic. I believe somebody called in and
said that it was being disgraceful to Frank Sinatra, which
it wasn't. His song was when New York was a
wonderful place to be, and the parody is showing what
happened to it, especially now that this mundombie got in.
(19:14):
That's the difference between the two. I don't know how
they voted for this communist. I hope it doesn't turn
out as bad as I think it's going to do.
But there's something's wrong with these people the way they voted.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I sat on the air for the sake of my
friends that I left behind over two years ago. Now,
I wanted the best for them. I didn't want this
for them.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Now. I can't tell you where we are right now.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
The county that I'm born in was born in, was
Nashaull County Long Island, and it went hardcore, solidly read
Bruce Blakeman as the county executive.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I like him a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I saw him earlier today and he welcomed me back,
asked if I was coming back. I said, you did
a great job, but the states sucks. Your county's great,
but the state sucks. And he goes, well, we're going
to fix that too, and he's very optimistic. I do
admire the people that want to stay in the fight,
like I really came to like Jack Chittarelli. You know,
(20:15):
I didn't go up to New Jersey because I felt like,
you know, getting a pork roll. Even though Mikey Cheryl
didn't know what OM was, I thought he had a
real shot. We ignored it, you know, three years ago,
four years ago. And the sad thing is nearly a
quarter of a million people left migrated out of New
Jersey in a three year.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Period of time, and that you know, the voting pool.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I would I would argue the majority of those people
would have voted for Jack Chitdarelli and it would have
been a very different night.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But they've been chased away.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
You know, these states are losing, that are losing this
massive population, this mass migration. They are pushing people away
and and a lot of people. You know, it's a
hard to say vision for a lot of people. Wasn't
that hard for me? Because you know, I was a
radio nomad forever, and you know I lived in Rhode
Island five years, California five years, Alabama two years, Georgia
(21:10):
four years, number two decades in New York and then
now I'm in the free state of Flora. I can
live in a box if you really want to know
the truth. Not everybody in my life can live in
a box. So I have to have a property to
live in. But putting it out a side, I mean,
it's so much nicer, and the people are nicer, and
it's much safer, and the taxes are lower, and the
(21:33):
quality of life is outstanding. I like to just listen
to the ocean. I'm based sounds silly. I find peace
and God and serenity there. So anyway, my friend, I
appreciate you call. Thanks for your input on this. Jason
in Texas. God bless Texas. Jason, how are you? Thanks
for checking in?
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Doing great so I'm glad to take the call. In
response to your colleague yesterday the profess to atheist, and
we always need to get the question of why good,
why bad things happen to good people. It comes from
even people that have good faith. They asked that question,
(22:13):
and my family members have asked that, and the best
answer I.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Could give you is that us as humans, as mortals,
we need that perception. If every day was a sunny
day and people didn't get cancer, you know, and died
at an early age, and you know, plane from offness guy,
all the bad things that happened in this world, we
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would have no perception or appreciation of the sun, the
sunshine days, you know, the happiness, the joy and the
love that people feel. You wouldn't be able to appreciate
that without the context. And that's the hardest part to
get across.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think, you know, if if, if what I said yesterday,
when God, when Moses saw the burning bush and was
speaking to God, and who should I say?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Sent me?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And he said, I am, there's a lot I interpret
from that. This is my interpretation. It's other biblical scholars interpretation,
and I've read a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Of them and C. S.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Lewis is one of them, and great, you know, let's
call apologetics and I've read David Limbaugh is one of
the best and he's one of my best friends, and
we've talked at length about a lot of these issues.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And that's Russia's brother.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And he you know, you just that that's predicated un
a belief always was, is present, and always will be.
And it's hard for us to wrap our minds around it.
If God wanted us to know that, he would have
told us. But you cannot convince me. You know, the
guy started talking about well quantum particles. I'm like, well,
(23:52):
where did the quantum particles come from? If not from
a God, all powerful, almighty creator that envision this. Now,
I don't have the answer why good things happen about people.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The Bible does tell us.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Though, that we will all go through challenges in our
life and to prepare for them, and that God puts
us in seasons in our life, some that are much
harder than others. Why did Donald Trump I have to
go through, you know, four years of absolute hell and
his family and then get to the side of it,
and then, you know, I think he's you know, the
greatest president we've had by far in decades and decades
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and decades.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
In this country.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But I do believe in the promise that you know,
the Bible says the eye had not seen, nor had
the ear heard, nor has it entered into the hearts
of man. What God has stored in stored for those
that love the truth. And in my Father's house are
many mansions. And I go, let not your heart be troubled.
I go to prepare a place for you, so that
where I am, you shall also be. I believe that
(24:56):
with my heart. Now, I'm never going to talk an
atheist into it. But he seems to want to judge God,
but yeah, can't. He but believes that something can come
from nothing, because to be an atheist you have to
that's what you have to believe.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Well, and that's where the perception comes in.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
They have to wrap their mind around the fact that
without certain things we will not be able to discern
the opposite. The counterpart to that, without some sort of sadness,
you can never experience true joy. You know, if every
day was sunny, you wouldn't have you would never appreciate
the sunshine without a rainy day, there is no upside.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Let's put it this way.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Everyone in their life has an opportunity where they're afraid.
You know, you get on the high dive for the
first time as a kid and you look down. Most kids,
I think the natural inclination would be to be scared.
And you cannot be courageous unless you're confronted with fear
and a moment that you have to you have to
(25:59):
trans send the fear and do it anyway. And you
know that that does just describe a lot of things
in life. I could tell you that if I'd be
lying to you, if I didn't tell you. The first
time I did a radio show, I was sweating and
probably having a mini panic attack. But you know, then
after I finished, I wanted to do it again and
(26:20):
again and again. The first time I spoke in front
of an audience, same thing. Number one fear most people
have is public speaking. I've given zero thought except writing
my monologue for tonight's Box News Patriot Awards.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm like excited, I want to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's fun, so but it you know that that accumulates
over time. That's called confidence. But I want and that
I just want people, especially young people listening to the show,
don't be don't let fear stop you, intimidate you prevent
you from living life to the fullest. You can feel
that fear feeling it isn't a bad thing, but don't
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let it stop you, paralyze you, or impede you from
moving forward. At that point when you dive off that board,
jump off that board, you will be that much more
courageous for the next challenge in life. And you know
there are seasons in the Bible that they describe where
God will pull back from us and so that we
(27:17):
eventually cry out to Him to come back.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Please.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I can't do this feeling empty like this, and I've
experienced that where mind, body, and spirit. I believe all
of it, and I don't really care. You know the
biggest misperception, And tell me if you agree with this.
Everyone has this added to all Christians. They're holier than now. Ah,
these self righteous Ah. I'm sick and tired of them
forcing their values down our throat and proselytize.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I don't proselytize. Believe whatever you want. We live in
a free country. We believe in freedom of religion. But
I can tell you this, to me, the first step
to becoming a Christian is acknowledging that you can't do
it on your own and that you failed and that
you want help and that you want to be better.
(28:05):
Doesn't mean you're instantaneously perfect, just the opposite. It's a process.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 8 (28:11):
I do wholeheartedly so, and I'll experiencing those things same
things myself.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I think it's part of the you know, human experience.
I think it's universal. We all experience that. That's part
of our humanity. You know, you got to nurture your body.
You know you've got to stimulate your mind. And you also,
you know that quiet time I was talking about earlier.
You know, I like to get quiet. I like to
(28:36):
just turn off the TV and put down my phone,
which I don't do very often. And I like to
see the majesty of God's creation and really look at it.
In if I'm out of beach, I'll look at the beach.
If if I see a beautiful full moon, I'll try
to pause and stop and reflect on it. If I
(28:57):
see a clear night and I can see Mars and Venus,
believe it or not, you can, and I have a
great telescope, you know it's majestic. Then to understand their
universes within universes within universes within universes, and we keep
discovering even more.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
To me, that's so deep and profound.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I'm never going to convince an atheist, but for them,
if there's no God, you have to believe something comes
from nothing or else, and I don't believe with the
perfection of creation that that's even possible. Anyway, appreciate the call,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
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Speaker 3 (29:41):
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