July 5, 2023 • 20 mins
Best of Hannity: Tim Ballard, Founder of Operation Underground Railroad and Jim Caviezel, Actor in the Sound of Freedom discuss their new film out on July 4th covering the uncomfortable, but very real international threat to children - human trafficking. Plus, Lynda helps Sean with funeral arrangements.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm always looking for good shows, series, movies to watch,
and I happened upon I'm sure somebody recommended it to
me and I finally did a deep dive and I
really got into it. Angel Studios's I believe it's Angel
dot com. Is what the website is. I'll find out
(00:21):
in a second for sure. And they did a whole
series called The Chosen and it was about his life,
Jesus's life on Earth, and they did three seasons of it.
I just I can't wait for the next season. And
it was to me, I could not stop watching it.
And it was one of those those binge series. And
especially if you're a person of faith and you believe
(00:43):
in Jesus, and by the way, regardless of what faith
you're from, you get a lot if you want to
know about the story of Jesus. They did something that
I thought was impossible to do, and that is they
they were able to show the human side of the
Son of Man on Earth, obviously leading up to his resurrection.
Now we all remember the Passion of the Christ. I
(01:05):
can't watch that movie to this day without crying. And
they now came out with a new movie. Its stars
interestingly enough, somebody I happened to like a lot. He
played Jesus in the Passion of the Christ, Jim cavesl
And it's called the Sound of Freedom. And this is
a little bit different. This is based on a true
(01:27):
story of freedom fighter that embarks on a dangerous mission
to literally rescue dozens of children from human trafficking and
sex trafficking and slavery. It is beyond emotionally riveting start
to finish. It will be in theaters the weekend of
July fourth. But I want to tell you about a
(01:48):
unique program that they've instituted that you can get your
tickets now and guarantee that you can see it and
even pay for people that maybe can't afford to see it.
That's coming up in a second. But here's the trailer.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Is growing international crime network that the world has ever seen.
It has already passed the illegal arm straight and soon
it's going to pass the drug trade. Because you can
sell a bag of cocaine one time as a child
five to ten times a day. God's children enough, so
(02:23):
I don't even do this all years now? How many
pedophiles you come tight? Eight many kids you found.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
For homeland security? You know we can't go off rescuing
hon during kids in Colombia.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
She'll disappear.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
For good God.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You're walking into her run right now, saying everything, bed Olla, do.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You quit your job and you go and rescue those kids.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Joining us now is Tim Ballard. This story was about
him and his life. He's the guy that actually was
involved in rescuing children from human trafficking. And Jim Cavizo,
who plays Tim in the movie, is with us. Great
to have you both. You know, Tim, Before I get
to your personal story, I want to go to Jim.
(03:18):
At the end of this movie, you did a passionate
description and up on the screen at the end of
the movie how human trafficking is one hundred and fifty
dollars a year business. These are the facts you put up.
In the last frame of the movie. You said, the
United States of America, our country is one of the
top destinations for human trafficking and among the largest consumers
(03:40):
of child sex. And then you put up that there
are more humans trapped in slavery today than at any
other time in history, including when slavery was legal, and
millions of these slaves are children. Now, I mean that
took me back.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I did.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Now, I've known over the years, interviewing guys that have
worked in various law enforcement that have told me how
real this is and how dangerous this is and how
widespread this is. But I those statistics startled me.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Well, lit'st okay. Two things here. One, I want to
tell you how incredible this film is. But you need
not look far if you want to go to Ms.
Rojas testimony April twenty six, and from this one given
her sworn testimony when she whistled blowed that eight hundred
and fifty thousand children went missing, and the next day
(04:36):
in the media, there was nothing in the news. Now
the public is well aware that a lot of this
stuff comes out and then the next day it's gone.
And when you go into this film, when you watch
this film, let me just say this, ladies and gentlemen,
this is not a woke movie like the Maverick movie
last year. Top Gun great adventure. This also has a
(04:57):
great adventure that real rise when you watch what My
hero Tim Ballard, who I got to play and thankfully
he came to me and asked me to play this part.
But I'm gonna explain something like the Passion of Christ,
the movie you just mentioned earlier. People don't leave the theater.
They're stunned. Slack Job. The mouse are wide open, just
looking at each other because they just went on this
(05:19):
massive thrill ride. But something that hits you so hard
to your core. And I think that it would beat
the right time now that the public would on the
fourth of July, they give these children, they're independent, to
go and sit and watch this tremendous film. It's one
of the best films I've done since the Passion of
the Christ.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, I can tell you I agree with you. It's
called The Sound of Freedom. It's going to be in
theaters nationwide. It was shot on location in Colombia, and
it's based on the very true story and the true
bravery and the incredible heroism of this other guest we have,
Tim Ballard. Well, first of all, you're a hero to
(05:59):
me already. I don't know you, but this will resonate
with Americans, and I think Americans need to understand how
widespread this is. You know, how real is the movie
to what exactly you did.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, thanks, Sam. Honored to be on your show and
appreciate the opportunity. So the film really is, it's very accurate.
Every kid is real, every bad guy is real, and
the story is based on a truth that is coming.
Is a documentary that's coming out that's going to actually
show you in some ways the underreported in the film
what actually happened and in terms of the number of
(06:37):
rescues on that particular operation. So it's it's it's it
was our first operation, and I'm just grateful that we
have amazing partners in the media and Chow and the
Angels Feels to get this word out because we think
it can help us through a lot more kids. You know.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
The amazing thing is as they're asking people, they want
to get two million people in week one in the
theaters and they have a unique way to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You can go to their website right now and buy
it for the fourth of July weekend, it's release weekend,
and that's at angel dot com. Or they have another website,
sound offreedommovie dot com. And if you're there and you
want to buy tickets for you and your family, you
might want to pay for one or two other people
to go, because they want anybody that wants to see
(07:21):
this film. They'll have the ability to say it. They
call paying it forward. So in this particular case, what
amazed me is when you went in to rescue well,
first of all, the human evil that exists in the
world today. Tim, it's you know, it's hard for good people,
I think, to really wrap themselves around that, the fact
that evil exists. And you have this one woman appealing
(07:43):
to a father. Oh, let me bring your two kids.
I think they can be stars. Let me bring them
to the audition it's going to take place tomorrow. The
woman knows full well that she's going to kidnap those children,
sell them into slavery, most often the case sex slavery.
And you were able to save both a brother and
a sister in this instance, and my understanding as you
(08:05):
saved other children as well. I mean, tell people a
little bit about that story.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah. So I had been sent down by the US government.
I was a special agent with US government, this time
with Homeland Security, and I was sent down to do
a training consult on this case. And I kind of
over committed and went further than I was supposed to
and ultimately had to make a choice either come home
and not do the case or quit my job.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
In look, by the way, and quit your job. Ten
months before you invested in your pension.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I walked away. I didn't get anything. And I'll be honest,
I was more cowardice than the film shows. I had
six kids at the time, and as my wife says,
you were not coming home. You were going to stay there,
and she said, I will not let you jeopardize my
salvation by not doing this. So really, you know, Mary
Stavino plays my wife, and her role is actually a
(08:58):
lot more powerful in real life and influencing this operation.
And so I mean in her knowing that I may
never come home. It was that kind of an operation.
I lost my badge, I lost my top cover, you know,
the protection of the US government. And we went in
and we infiltrated this organization, like like you mentioned, run
by a woman I just testified in her trial actually
(09:19):
just a few months ago. That's still ongoing. They're all
to to be convicted. But and she had her and
her cohorts and they were recruiting children just like you said.
They were recruiting children by pretending that they were going
to make them famous, famous models, famous actors. Because woman
was famous, she was Miss Karktahema. In twenty twelve. She
shows that the music videos off through Columbia. So she
(09:40):
was very convincing and she was able to round up
quite a few children. In the end, it was fifty
four in total on that particular operation, and we were
able to get them all in the same place, all
the traffickers in the same place. And you know, Jim,
Jim can tell you he depicted something that was really real.
And I was on the set crying. I was crying
as I want them you know, that raid and up
(10:01):
brisk cor operation on the island, because it was so
so incredibly real, and it was just it was like
a mile from the actual location where it had happened.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So and by the way, just so people know, this
is it right in the middle of Cartel Central. There
was no help ever coming. You either got in and
out on your own, or you weren't getting out you'd
be dead.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Sean, he's not even hardly telling you anything. They were
doing operations while we were doing the shooting. They were
doing operations, so I had a first hand account of
what that is like. In fact one, at one point,
I you know, Tim was straining me to you know,
(10:41):
taking me in and showing me okay, when I'm asking
questions and what are you looking for here? And because
it's really important for the audience to understand this is
actually adventure. But you learn, you learn how it works.
You get to see how they hunt. And in this
particular case, Tim had me coming in there, back and forth.
I was going back to Salt Lake, back and forth,
(11:03):
and I was going to do a mission with them.
Would they end up doing a mission? But it was
while we were filming, and he said, you can't do it.
It's too dangerous. We were shooting right in the cartel territory.
I'm going from set, just walking from you know, I
forgot something down to the set. My security came running
after me, surrounded me and said, do you have any
(11:24):
idea where you're at? They would take your head off.
Don't ever do that again. Okay, you know, but I'm
sitting thinking of learning, remembering my lines and trying to
change things and where I'm going to pull my gun
out and everything, and but this is all going on,
and he's trying to arrest Ms Carthagenia while this is
(11:44):
all going on when we're down there, and I'll just
tell you, just Sean, we had fifteen hundred people in
the theater in Vegas, and not one of them got
up and left. And at one particular part they were
talking back and forth like up. So I asked him
at the end of the movie, why were you doing that?
Why were you talking like that? And they kept saying
(12:04):
Ebstein Island, Ebstein Island. Well, I want to say that
Epstein Island isn't the only sex island for kids.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, that's such a powerful point. I mean when
you look at these actual numbers and the fact that
this was your real life, Tim, and I guess still
remains your real life. Every time you're involved in one
of these operations, you know you may not be coming home.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, these operations are pretty dangerous. We infiltrate pretty deep.
And you know what's maybe the thing I'm most proud
of is the fact that when I see that movie,
our teams, I have one hundred and forty plus employees.
Now after that operation, we're all through the world. Our
foundation is called Operation Underground Railroad, and I also run
the Nazarene Sun which was founded by Glenn Beck, which
(12:48):
does similar work for pursuted Christians. But we're doing these
operations that you see in that film every week, every month.
So it's great to be part of a solution, but
we've got to wake everybody up. You know, the United States,
as you mentioned earlier, Sean, we're in the top destination.
We're number two or three. I spent ten years of
my career on the border, on the southern border, and
(13:08):
you've taught you've been more vocal than anyone, and thank
god you have been, because we are facilitating human trafficking.
As you know. You know, eighty five thousand uncompanied minors
under this current administration have disappeared into the belly of
the United States. We are the number one demand in
the world for child six So it doesn't take an
economist to really conclude what's happening here, why it's happening.
(13:30):
It makes me sick to my stomach to think that,
you know, when we don't enforce those laws on the border,
children get great and they get rated by the thousands
in our own country. So thank you for being vulcal
on that and Ted Cruz and those who have really
come out with the truth here. But we are our
own country. We are complistent in one of the worst
human trafficking schemes that the world's ever seen.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, I'm going to tell you what that plan is.
Movie is going to be released. You have to see it,
and you can buy tickets early. You can go to
angel dot com looking for two million people the weekend
of the fourth of July. This will have a for
an impact that will last forever, I promise you and
Angel dot com slash Hannity and you can even buy tickets,
(14:12):
maybe for people that can't afford them. If you want
to go but can't afford it, somebody will pay it
for you. We'll take care of it. And if you
want to see just go to Sound of freedommovie dot
com as well. This will be this. This will shock
your conscience and soul because you're witnessing real evil and
real time people without heart, souls or conscience. And guys,
(14:35):
all I can say is really well done. We're going
to talk more about it before it's debut. Jim Cavizo,
we haven't talked in a long time. Good good to
hear your voice, my friend. Great job in this movie,
Tim Ballard, what an incredible and inspiring life you've led.
And just remember this name. Sound of Freedom weekend fourth
of July. Sound of freedommovie dot com or just go
(14:57):
to angel dot com and you'll be able to get
your tickets there as well. Guys will have you back
before the fourth and your launch. This movie blew me away,
absolutely blew me away in the work at Angels Studios,
this phenomenon as well. Thank you both, Thank you Sean.
All Right, Linda wants to be in charge of all
(15:18):
my funeral requests and arrangements, but she's not willing to
enforce any of the rules that I've laid down. I
have a rule that and I expect you to be
the enforcer of it. No crying at my funeral, absolutely
not I and I want it to be a celebration
of an undeserved life as that's really.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I'm going to hire John Rich. He's going to come
and play, you know what I mean. Can he can
say like you know, we're coming to your city, and
it can be like you know you're going home to God,
like yeah, baby Jesus, I'm coming to your city.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Get it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, it's working.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
He can sing amazing grace. Absolutely he does great Gospel
of me.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
By the way, he made funny You really really bad
at six eleven, died laughing.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
He sent me the video.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Anybody who hasn't seen it, it's online. It's John Rich
drinking the oceanity with pinkies up. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's very funny actually.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
But yes, I'm happy to enforce it, and I will
make sure that no one cries, and if they cries,
I will give them something to cry about. What do
you make sure? What are you going to do to
my daughter if she's gonna hug her and console her
and say so.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You really got to give her something to cry about?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Well, no, she doesn't count like a regular your daughter.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What about my sisters?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
She's allowed to cry, Any immediate family's allowed to cry.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
No, that's not what my will says.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Not like Humpty Dumpty can't come and cry, Humpty.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Dumpty dump invited.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
First of all, when you're a you're a celebrity, people
show up.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
What are you go away? Yes? Oh my gosh, are
you serious?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Think about like Princess Die. I mean they surrounded the castle,
you know what I mean? Like they meant it. Man,
they wanted to see her, people who never knew her.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You know, one of one of my rules is I
don't want anyone to see in my dead corpse.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Oh no, see, that's the other thing I'm gonna do
for you. I'm going to get the best picture that
you ever had, like one you really like. Like you
know how we take like eighty nine pictures of you
and you don't like any of them, and then you
pick one from like ten years ago because it's the
only one you liked.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, I'm gonna put that one on top of your caskets.
We don't open the casket. It's just this nice.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Picture on my casket. How about how about I live
in the minds and hearts of people, and then whatever
they remember.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
That very forgetful. We need to remind them. We need
a nice picture. We're going to put it up. It's
gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
They want to remember it was all my dead relatives
and landing in that stupid box with the makeup on.
And it's the only good thing is is that people
in my family, especially my friends, they used to see
me makeup, so it's not you'll actually look pretty normal.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
My dad was a funeral in Bomber and I used
to used to bring the dead bodies home on lunch break,
and I have to say it's made me very calm.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
He brought the dead bodies home lunch break, and you
would when he bring him in to sit in a
chair like joke.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
And my dad picked up an extra swingshift at a
funeral parlor in Philly, and uh, the one time he
came home with the you know, the what do they
call those cars? The horses and he parks it and
I go, what's that? And he goes, it's where the
people that have gone home. We put them in the
back there. I'm like, he goes, no, No, I don't know.
He goes, no, we take them. We got to embalm them.
(18:05):
I said, what's that? He goes, We put from maldehyde
and other chemicals in their body so that they look
at him.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Like, who cares?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
They go on underground? I mean, this was like a
foreign concept.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So there was this nun that they I guess exhumed
her body and it was she died four years ago
and she was in a perfectly preserved state. And I
wonder they're looking in the.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Part callers or obsessed with this story. Katie got like
you talked about this for like a second last week, right,
forget about it all?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Right, So what's interesting, and then you know people are
making fun of the fact that people think this is miraculous.
What I didn't know is how fast the body starts
its decomposition process.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
I mean it is.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
You know, they have to embomb just to keep the
body alive for the week, you know, while you're going
through the wake and the funeral and sit and shiver
whatever you're having to be doing. I mean, some people,
you know, buried the day or the next day, which
I think is a lot smarter. I don't want to
sit there and stare at a dead body. How awful
is that?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I have to be honest, It was very idea, but
there's a lot of conversation that goes on about who
gets to do what, and who's hosting, and who's coming
and where's the lunch and all. It's a bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, I put the details in and I'm paying for
my own funeral, and uh, I just wanted to be
a celebration of an undeserved life. I think that is.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I assure you that if you make me the conceigliary
of your death, I will make sure to facilitate all
the things you do.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You say all of this, and I don't believe you.
I think I think anybody that starts crying, what are
you going to walk over and say, say, excuse me, there's.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
A buying room. It's to the right. Please don't.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
There's nothing in my will about a crying room that
I can.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
See people crying. So if I can't see you, you
go in. You close the blinds.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I say no crying at my funeral period, and I
want that SHO.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
There's only one person that controls free will, and that's
the baby Jesus, and I can't do it. I'm sorry,
but I can't put them in a closed room with
blinds and.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Tell them the shut up. You're welcome, stop complaining.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I'm here to facilitate.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Eat the food, drink the beer, whatever, whatever we drink.
Sanity the O shanity with the pinky
I'm always looking for good shows, series, movies to watch,
and I happened upon I'm sure somebody recommended it to
me and I finally did a deep dive and I
really got into it. Angel Studios's I believe it's Angel
dot com. Is what the website is. I'll find out
(00:21):
in a second for sure. And they did a whole
series called The Chosen and it was about his life,
Jesus's life on Earth, and they did three seasons of it.
I just I can't wait for the next season. And
it was to me, I could not stop watching it.
And it was one of those those binge series. And
especially if you're a person of faith and you believe
(00:43):
in Jesus, and by the way, regardless of what faith
you're from, you get a lot if you want to
know about the story of Jesus. They did something that
I thought was impossible to do, and that is they
they were able to show the human side of the
Son of Man on Earth, obviously leading up to his resurrection.
Now we all remember the Passion of the Christ. I
(01:05):
can't watch that movie to this day without crying. And
they now came out with a new movie. Its stars
interestingly enough, somebody I happened to like a lot. He
played Jesus in the Passion of the Christ, Jim cavesl
And it's called the Sound of Freedom. And this is
a little bit different. This is based on a true
(01:27):
story of freedom fighter that embarks on a dangerous mission
to literally rescue dozens of children from human trafficking and
sex trafficking and slavery. It is beyond emotionally riveting start
to finish. It will be in theaters the weekend of
July fourth. But I want to tell you about a
(01:48):
unique program that they've instituted that you can get your
tickets now and guarantee that you can see it and
even pay for people that maybe can't afford to see it.
That's coming up in a second. But here's the trailer.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Is growing international crime network that the world has ever seen.
It has already passed the illegal arm straight and soon
it's going to pass the drug trade. Because you can
sell a bag of cocaine one time as a child
five to ten times a day. God's children enough, so
(02:23):
I don't even do this all years now? How many
pedophiles you come tight? Eight many kids you found.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
For homeland security? You know we can't go off rescuing
hon during kids in Colombia.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
She'll disappear.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
For good God.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You're walking into her run right now, saying everything, bed Olla, do.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You quit your job and you go and rescue those kids.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Joining us now is Tim Ballard. This story was about
him and his life. He's the guy that actually was
involved in rescuing children from human trafficking. And Jim Cavizo,
who plays Tim in the movie, is with us. Great
to have you both. You know, Tim, Before I get
to your personal story, I want to go to Jim.
(03:18):
At the end of this movie, you did a passionate
description and up on the screen at the end of
the movie how human trafficking is one hundred and fifty
dollars a year business. These are the facts you put up.
In the last frame of the movie. You said, the
United States of America, our country is one of the
top destinations for human trafficking and among the largest consumers
(03:40):
of child sex. And then you put up that there
are more humans trapped in slavery today than at any
other time in history, including when slavery was legal, and
millions of these slaves are children. Now, I mean that
took me back.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I did.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Now, I've known over the years, interviewing guys that have
worked in various law enforcement that have told me how
real this is and how dangerous this is and how
widespread this is. But I those statistics startled me.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Well, lit'st okay. Two things here. One, I want to
tell you how incredible this film is. But you need
not look far if you want to go to Ms.
Rojas testimony April twenty six, and from this one given
her sworn testimony when she whistled blowed that eight hundred
and fifty thousand children went missing, and the next day
(04:36):
in the media, there was nothing in the news. Now
the public is well aware that a lot of this
stuff comes out and then the next day it's gone.
And when you go into this film, when you watch
this film, let me just say this, ladies and gentlemen,
this is not a woke movie like the Maverick movie
last year. Top Gun great adventure. This also has a
(04:57):
great adventure that real rise when you watch what My
hero Tim Ballard, who I got to play and thankfully
he came to me and asked me to play this part.
But I'm gonna explain something like the Passion of Christ,
the movie you just mentioned earlier. People don't leave the theater.
They're stunned. Slack Job. The mouse are wide open, just
looking at each other because they just went on this
(05:19):
massive thrill ride. But something that hits you so hard
to your core. And I think that it would beat
the right time now that the public would on the
fourth of July, they give these children, they're independent, to
go and sit and watch this tremendous film. It's one
of the best films I've done since the Passion of
the Christ.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, I can tell you I agree with you. It's
called The Sound of Freedom. It's going to be in
theaters nationwide. It was shot on location in Colombia, and
it's based on the very true story and the true
bravery and the incredible heroism of this other guest we have,
Tim Ballard. Well, first of all, you're a hero to
(05:59):
me already. I don't know you, but this will resonate
with Americans, and I think Americans need to understand how
widespread this is. You know, how real is the movie
to what exactly you did.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, thanks, Sam. Honored to be on your show and
appreciate the opportunity. So the film really is, it's very accurate.
Every kid is real, every bad guy is real, and
the story is based on a truth that is coming.
Is a documentary that's coming out that's going to actually
show you in some ways the underreported in the film
what actually happened and in terms of the number of
(06:37):
rescues on that particular operation. So it's it's it's it
was our first operation, and I'm just grateful that we
have amazing partners in the media and Chow and the
Angels Feels to get this word out because we think
it can help us through a lot more kids. You know.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
The amazing thing is as they're asking people, they want
to get two million people in week one in the
theaters and they have a unique way to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You can go to their website right now and buy
it for the fourth of July weekend, it's release weekend,
and that's at angel dot com. Or they have another website,
sound offreedommovie dot com. And if you're there and you
want to buy tickets for you and your family, you
might want to pay for one or two other people
to go, because they want anybody that wants to see
(07:21):
this film. They'll have the ability to say it. They
call paying it forward. So in this particular case, what
amazed me is when you went in to rescue well,
first of all, the human evil that exists in the
world today. Tim, it's you know, it's hard for good people,
I think, to really wrap themselves around that, the fact
that evil exists. And you have this one woman appealing
(07:43):
to a father. Oh, let me bring your two kids.
I think they can be stars. Let me bring them
to the audition it's going to take place tomorrow. The
woman knows full well that she's going to kidnap those children,
sell them into slavery, most often the case sex slavery.
And you were able to save both a brother and
a sister in this instance, and my understanding as you
(08:05):
saved other children as well. I mean, tell people a
little bit about that story.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah. So I had been sent down by the US government.
I was a special agent with US government, this time
with Homeland Security, and I was sent down to do
a training consult on this case. And I kind of
over committed and went further than I was supposed to
and ultimately had to make a choice either come home
and not do the case or quit my job.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
In look, by the way, and quit your job. Ten
months before you invested in your pension.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I walked away. I didn't get anything. And I'll be honest,
I was more cowardice than the film shows. I had
six kids at the time, and as my wife says,
you were not coming home. You were going to stay there,
and she said, I will not let you jeopardize my
salvation by not doing this. So really, you know, Mary
Stavino plays my wife, and her role is actually a
(08:58):
lot more powerful in real life and influencing this operation.
And so I mean in her knowing that I may
never come home. It was that kind of an operation.
I lost my badge, I lost my top cover, you know,
the protection of the US government. And we went in
and we infiltrated this organization, like like you mentioned, run
by a woman I just testified in her trial actually
(09:19):
just a few months ago. That's still ongoing. They're all
to to be convicted. But and she had her and
her cohorts and they were recruiting children just like you said.
They were recruiting children by pretending that they were going
to make them famous, famous models, famous actors. Because woman
was famous, she was Miss Karktahema. In twenty twelve. She
shows that the music videos off through Columbia. So she
(09:40):
was very convincing and she was able to round up
quite a few children. In the end, it was fifty
four in total on that particular operation, and we were
able to get them all in the same place, all
the traffickers in the same place. And you know, Jim,
Jim can tell you he depicted something that was really real.
And I was on the set crying. I was crying
as I want them you know, that raid and up
(10:01):
brisk cor operation on the island, because it was so
so incredibly real, and it was just it was like
a mile from the actual location where it had happened.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So and by the way, just so people know, this
is it right in the middle of Cartel Central. There
was no help ever coming. You either got in and
out on your own, or you weren't getting out you'd
be dead.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Sean, he's not even hardly telling you anything. They were
doing operations while we were doing the shooting. They were
doing operations, so I had a first hand account of
what that is like. In fact one, at one point,
I you know, Tim was straining me to you know,
(10:41):
taking me in and showing me okay, when I'm asking
questions and what are you looking for here? And because
it's really important for the audience to understand this is
actually adventure. But you learn, you learn how it works.
You get to see how they hunt. And in this
particular case, Tim had me coming in there, back and forth.
I was going back to Salt Lake, back and forth,
(11:03):
and I was going to do a mission with them.
Would they end up doing a mission? But it was
while we were filming, and he said, you can't do it.
It's too dangerous. We were shooting right in the cartel territory.
I'm going from set, just walking from you know, I
forgot something down to the set. My security came running
after me, surrounded me and said, do you have any
(11:24):
idea where you're at? They would take your head off.
Don't ever do that again. Okay, you know, but I'm
sitting thinking of learning, remembering my lines and trying to
change things and where I'm going to pull my gun
out and everything, and but this is all going on,
and he's trying to arrest Ms Carthagenia while this is
(11:44):
all going on when we're down there, and I'll just
tell you, just Sean, we had fifteen hundred people in
the theater in Vegas, and not one of them got
up and left. And at one particular part they were
talking back and forth like up. So I asked him
at the end of the movie, why were you doing that?
Why were you talking like that? And they kept saying
(12:04):
Ebstein Island, Ebstein Island. Well, I want to say that
Epstein Island isn't the only sex island for kids.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, that's such a powerful point. I mean when
you look at these actual numbers and the fact that
this was your real life, Tim, and I guess still
remains your real life. Every time you're involved in one
of these operations, you know you may not be coming home.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, these operations are pretty dangerous. We infiltrate pretty deep.
And you know what's maybe the thing I'm most proud
of is the fact that when I see that movie,
our teams, I have one hundred and forty plus employees.
Now after that operation, we're all through the world. Our
foundation is called Operation Underground Railroad, and I also run
the Nazarene Sun which was founded by Glenn Beck, which
(12:48):
does similar work for pursuted Christians. But we're doing these
operations that you see in that film every week, every month.
So it's great to be part of a solution, but
we've got to wake everybody up. You know, the United States,
as you mentioned earlier, Sean, we're in the top destination.
We're number two or three. I spent ten years of
my career on the border, on the southern border, and
(13:08):
you've taught you've been more vocal than anyone, and thank
god you have been, because we are facilitating human trafficking.
As you know. You know, eighty five thousand uncompanied minors
under this current administration have disappeared into the belly of
the United States. We are the number one demand in
the world for child six So it doesn't take an
economist to really conclude what's happening here, why it's happening.
(13:30):
It makes me sick to my stomach to think that,
you know, when we don't enforce those laws on the border,
children get great and they get rated by the thousands
in our own country. So thank you for being vulcal
on that and Ted Cruz and those who have really
come out with the truth here. But we are our
own country. We are complistent in one of the worst
human trafficking schemes that the world's ever seen.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, I'm going to tell you what that plan is.
Movie is going to be released. You have to see it,
and you can buy tickets early. You can go to
angel dot com looking for two million people the weekend
of the fourth of July. This will have a for
an impact that will last forever, I promise you and
Angel dot com slash Hannity and you can even buy tickets,
(14:12):
maybe for people that can't afford them. If you want
to go but can't afford it, somebody will pay it
for you. We'll take care of it. And if you
want to see just go to Sound of freedommovie dot
com as well. This will be this. This will shock
your conscience and soul because you're witnessing real evil and
real time people without heart, souls or conscience. And guys,
(14:35):
all I can say is really well done. We're going
to talk more about it before it's debut. Jim Cavizo,
we haven't talked in a long time. Good good to
hear your voice, my friend. Great job in this movie,
Tim Ballard, what an incredible and inspiring life you've led.
And just remember this name. Sound of Freedom weekend fourth
of July. Sound of freedommovie dot com or just go
(14:57):
to angel dot com and you'll be able to get
your tickets there as well. Guys will have you back
before the fourth and your launch. This movie blew me away,
absolutely blew me away in the work at Angels Studios,
this phenomenon as well. Thank you both, Thank you Sean.
All Right, Linda wants to be in charge of all
(15:18):
my funeral requests and arrangements, but she's not willing to
enforce any of the rules that I've laid down. I
have a rule that and I expect you to be
the enforcer of it. No crying at my funeral, absolutely
not I and I want it to be a celebration
of an undeserved life as that's really.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I'm going to hire John Rich. He's going to come
and play, you know what I mean. Can he can
say like you know, we're coming to your city, and
it can be like you know you're going home to God,
like yeah, baby Jesus, I'm coming to your city.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Get it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, it's working.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
He can sing amazing grace. Absolutely he does great Gospel
of me.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
By the way, he made funny You really really bad
at six eleven, died laughing.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
He sent me the video.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Anybody who hasn't seen it, it's online. It's John Rich
drinking the oceanity with pinkies up. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's very funny actually.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
But yes, I'm happy to enforce it, and I will
make sure that no one cries, and if they cries,
I will give them something to cry about. What do
you make sure? What are you going to do to
my daughter if she's gonna hug her and console her
and say so.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You really got to give her something to cry about?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Well, no, she doesn't count like a regular your daughter.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What about my sisters?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
She's allowed to cry, Any immediate family's allowed to cry.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
No, that's not what my will says.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Not like Humpty Dumpty can't come and cry, Humpty.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Dumpty dump invited.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
First of all, when you're a you're a celebrity, people
show up.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
What are you go away? Yes? Oh my gosh, are
you serious?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Think about like Princess Die. I mean they surrounded the castle,
you know what I mean? Like they meant it. Man,
they wanted to see her, people who never knew her.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You know, one of one of my rules is I
don't want anyone to see in my dead corpse.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Oh no, see, that's the other thing I'm gonna do
for you. I'm going to get the best picture that
you ever had, like one you really like. Like you
know how we take like eighty nine pictures of you
and you don't like any of them, and then you
pick one from like ten years ago because it's the
only one you liked.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, I'm gonna put that one on top of your caskets.
We don't open the casket. It's just this nice.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Picture on my casket. How about how about I live
in the minds and hearts of people, and then whatever
they remember.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
That very forgetful. We need to remind them. We need
a nice picture. We're going to put it up. It's
gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
They want to remember it was all my dead relatives
and landing in that stupid box with the makeup on.
And it's the only good thing is is that people
in my family, especially my friends, they used to see
me makeup, so it's not you'll actually look pretty normal.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
My dad was a funeral in Bomber and I used
to used to bring the dead bodies home on lunch break,
and I have to say it's made me very calm.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
He brought the dead bodies home lunch break, and you
would when he bring him in to sit in a
chair like joke.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
And my dad picked up an extra swingshift at a
funeral parlor in Philly, and uh, the one time he
came home with the you know, the what do they
call those cars? The horses and he parks it and
I go, what's that? And he goes, it's where the
people that have gone home. We put them in the
back there. I'm like, he goes, no, No, I don't know.
He goes, no, we take them. We got to embalm them.
(18:05):
I said, what's that? He goes, We put from maldehyde
and other chemicals in their body so that they look
at him.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Like, who cares?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
They go on underground? I mean, this was like a
foreign concept.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So there was this nun that they I guess exhumed
her body and it was she died four years ago
and she was in a perfectly preserved state. And I
wonder they're looking in the.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Part callers or obsessed with this story. Katie got like
you talked about this for like a second last week, right,
forget about it all?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Right, So what's interesting, and then you know people are
making fun of the fact that people think this is miraculous.
What I didn't know is how fast the body starts
its decomposition process.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
I mean it is.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
You know, they have to embomb just to keep the
body alive for the week, you know, while you're going
through the wake and the funeral and sit and shiver
whatever you're having to be doing. I mean, some people,
you know, buried the day or the next day, which
I think is a lot smarter. I don't want to
sit there and stare at a dead body. How awful
is that?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I have to be honest, It was very idea, but
there's a lot of conversation that goes on about who
gets to do what, and who's hosting, and who's coming
and where's the lunch and all. It's a bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, I put the details in and I'm paying for
my own funeral, and uh, I just wanted to be
a celebration of an undeserved life. I think that is.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I assure you that if you make me the conceigliary
of your death, I will make sure to facilitate all
the things you do.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You say all of this, and I don't believe you.
I think I think anybody that starts crying, what are
you going to walk over and say, say, excuse me, there's.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
A buying room. It's to the right. Please don't.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
There's nothing in my will about a crying room that
I can.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
See people crying. So if I can't see you, you
go in. You close the blinds.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I say no crying at my funeral period, and I
want that SHO.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
There's only one person that controls free will, and that's
the baby Jesus, and I can't do it. I'm sorry,
but I can't put them in a closed room with
blinds and.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Tell them the shut up. You're welcome, stop complaining.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I'm here to facilitate.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Eat the food, drink the beer, whatever, whatever we drink.
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