May 19, 2025 • 29 mins
Rep. Dr, Greg Murphy of North Carolina’s 3rd District, is a practicing urologist and joins us to talk about the announcement regarding Joe Biden’s cancer diagnosis.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks Scott chan An Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight
hundred and nine to four one, Sean, if you want
to be a part of the program, there are so
many questions every doctor I've spoken to and every man
listening to this program. If you get regular checkups, you
get what is known as a PSA test, and over
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the years you get a baseline what your PSA is.
For example, some people, some friends of mine, are a
little bit higher than I am. I happen to be
like zero point nine to one point one is my baseline,
and one year it had doubled, and almost immediately I
had a biopsy because my doctor is one of my
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best friends, is like, we're not taking any chances with this.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And so.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
When you get to this late stage and the fact
that prostate cancer has metastasized, it is raising an awful
lot of questions. And every doctor that I know of,
and I've spoken to many over the weekend, I say
that Biden was likely diagnosed with this cancer long before,
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you know, probably before twenty twenty. And every medical expert
that I've talked to, you know, points to the you know,
a possible cover up here. Let's go to his doctor
Zeke Emmanuel saying that he probably had prostate cancer at
the start of his presidency in twenty twenty one, among
other things.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Doesn't it take some time for prostate cancer to develop
to point where it would spread to the bones?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Oh, he's had this for many years, maybe even a decade,
growing there and spreading.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
It's a little surprising. I look back at the records,
and there's no evidence that when he got his health
status and the medical records were released, that he had
a prostate specific anigen. Now, it is true that a
lot of people recommend not doing a prostate specific admagen
after seventy but President Biden's been.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
In public life for a very long time.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
He was vice president and had a lot of exams
under seventy and it is a little surprising to many
of us oncologists that he wasn't diagnosed earlier.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
You believe it is likely, if this prostate cancer has
spread to the bone, that he could have had it
for up to a decade, But certainly it's likely. Would
it be fair to say it's likely to have had
this for at least several years, oh.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
More than several years.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
He did not develop it in the last one hundred
two hundred days he had it while he was president.
He probably had it at the start of his presidency
in twenty one. Yes, I don't think there's any agreement
about that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And almost without exception, every doctor that's being quoted in
the media, quote doctor Howard Foreman is saying in a
post on X, it's inconceivable this was not being followed
before he left the presidency. Glease in grade nine would
have had an elevated PSA level for some time before
the diagnosis. Doctor Stephen Quhi flagged similar concern saying Biden's
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type of cancer is the easiest to diagnose when it
first starts. The PSA blood tests shows that the rate
of cancer cell growth for even the most aggressive form
it is, you know, five to seven And it shows
that the PSA blood test shows the rate of cancer
cell growth, and it's a five to seven year journey
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without treatment before it metastasizes, meaning it would be malpracticed
for this patient to show up and be first diagnosed
with metastatic disease. In May of twenty twenty five, he continued,
it's highly likely he was carrying a diagnosis of prostate
cancer throughout his White House tenure, and the American people
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were not informed. And I can go on quoting doctor
after doctor after doctor, and you know which raises questions
of a possible cover up to his own detriment here
and you know, most doctors that I've spoken to say
most men will die with prostate cancer, but they won't
die from prostate cancer anyway. Here to weigh in his
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doctor and well, Congressmen and doctor Greg Murphy of North
Carolina's third district congressman, great to have you on the program.
You are a urologist or an expert in this field.
Am I wrong or are they wrong in anything they're saying?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, I think there's some nuances that people are not mentioning.
Cancer does not appear overnight. It's actually a normal function
of the body that we develop cancer cells. You have
them floating in your body right now. I have them
floating in our body. In my body. Our body as
them and takes care of them. It does take years
for cancers to develop certain ones. Sometimes the particular cancer,
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for example, grows very very quickly pasta cancer. Kidney cancer
grows very very slowly. The real question is when was
this diagnosed, because yes, he probably had it in his prostate,
he had cancer cells in his past, probably at least
for the last five years, but that doesn't mean it
was diagnosed. That doesn't necessarily mean there was any cover up.
I just want to be I want to try to
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be really truly objective here, Sean, because it matters, really
when was the first biops he done? That really tells everything.
Was it something that he either got a PSA test,
or that the doctor didn't order it, or the doctor
didn't do a rectal examination or Biden refused it. We
have some doctors across this country now, and it's sad
who are not doing both the PSA and the rectal
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examination if they're doing the PSA at all, and.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
So they are really a lot more variables.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's not quite as cut and dry as I think
some people are saying, Biden, could you know the doctor
could have said, hey.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Are you saying that they would not have been any
indication or the possibility they would not have been an
indication with a PSA score, you know, rising somewhat precipitously,
especially considering the number of years it takes to metastasize.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, but Sean here's the one thing. Most most prostate
cancers make a lot of PSA, and that's really the
point of detection. You have somebody with a PSA of
thirty with what they have a lot of cancer. But
I have seen patients die of prostate cancer because it
is so aggressive that they basically die with the PSA
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of zero. And explain that a little bit. These high
gleas and score cancers, the cells are very very distorted.
They're not very much like regular prostate tissue cells. So
they oftentimes not all the time and are actually the
minority of the time. They don't make enough PSA. So
you can have somebody with a diagnosis of past cancer
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with a PSA of two, but you stick your you
do a rectal examination, and they have a nodule. I've
even seen two patients over my career, and again this
is rare who have died from metashatic prostate cancer who
have undetectable PSAs. So it is not without question that
Biden had a PSA of two two and a half
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and his doctor did not do a rectal examination and
all of a sudden it showed up with disease and
his pelvis or in his bone somewhere. So it's just
it's not quite as black and white as some people
are painting it. We don't know the facts. We don't
know exactly what his PSAs were. We don't know if
he refused to do something, or the doctor was negligent
in pushing an intervention or a diagnosis or along the way.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, would you would it be fair to say that?
And it's kind of hard to imagine, knowing that the
care that is given to a president. I was with
President Trump all last week on a trip to the
Middle East, and I can tell tell you there are
doctors around him at all hours of the day and night.
They're on Air Force One, they are wherever the president goes.
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There there's an ability to have an operating room right
where he is and on any location. And I would
imagine for a president in particular, that they're getting the
best medical care possible. For you to say that one
test that would be critical to ascertaining the truth about
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prostate cancer not given to almost part of his overall,
you know, medical checkups seems inconceivable to me, Am I wrong, No.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But you know, there's some people that don't recommend PSA
screenings over age seventy five or especially over eighty, and
if somebody has an elevated PSA when they're eighty of
maybe eight or nine, I generally don't do anything with
it because we just watch it, we follow it. In
the vast majority of those individuals.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
As you pointed out earlier, it's part.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Of a treatment, as you know, what is a careful
watching and waiting or if you have the exact terminology
that you use.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
But you don't mean I don't necessarily have to do
a biopsy to diagnose something.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
But here's the one.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Here's another crux of the matter is that, yeah, while
you may not do a PSA surveillance or on a
seventy five or eighty year old, you sure as hell
should be doing it on an eighty two year old
who's going to be a running for the most powerful
position in the world. And so there are a lot
of questions here that are not answered. Did I think again,
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going to the crux of the matter is when was
the biopsy done? It could have been done as late
as five weeks ago, because you said, all of a sudden,
now it's quote hormone sensitive, and the only way you
can determine if a cancer, a prostate cancer is hormone sensitive,
is to give them a medication and then after a
month or so, see if the PSA falls, because if
the PSA doesn't fall, it doesn't mean it's sensitive to
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the hormone. And that could literally have been just done
five weeks ago, or could it have been done couple
of years ago.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
It's possible.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I just don't think we have anything that can prove
that without looking at the records themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
All right, quick break, we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We'll continue more with congressmen and medical doctor Greg Murphy
of North Carolina's third District on the other side, and
then your calls coming up eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean,
if you want to join us. All right, we continue
now with medical doctor also congressman, doctor Greg Murphy of
North Carolina's third district. Let's talk about his prognosis now
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that it's metastasized, we know to the bones, and it's
a very aggressive prostate cancer and a very dangerous one
based on what you can read obviously not examined the
former president, what would you say, You know, the prognosis
is for him, you know, it just.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Depends on a lot of different factors how well he
responds to hormone therapy.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Sean.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I've operated on a patient he's probably now it's twenty
years and he presented with the bony disease in his
peller us, and I did a hormonal intervention on him
where he actually removed the testicles because that removes the testosterone,
and he's still alive today some twenty years later. But
that's not the norm. I've also seen patients who present
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with this pass away in six, eight weeks, three months.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
The norm, though, is you'll do hormonal.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Treatment and they'll respond to that for a year and
a half, sometimes two years, maybe even longer. But then
literally in the last fifteen years, there have been so
many new interventions and new medications. I tell this story
a lot that I used to have to go in
and tell some patients that it is time to get
their affairs in order. But now I don't have to
do that nearly as much with prostate cancer, that we
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have other drugs and other levels of drug that if
this one fails, we tried this next one. If this
one fails, we tried this next one. So he very
well again, depending upon how he responds to the hormone
treatment or how long this has been going on. There's
some new treatments now with radio nuclear things that go
in and they tag this PSA and they just go
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straight to the cancer cell and kill it directly. It's
a radio nuclei.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
And well, I guess there's a reason for a lot
of the suspicion. And I'll even quote Van Jones, who
work with the Obama administration. You know, he literally called
the cover up of Joe's cognitive decline, which was transparent
to me and anybody with eyes to see even before
the twenty twenty election. It was not the same Joe Biden.
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And if they had they loved him enough, they would
never have allowed this to continue.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, I think this will go down as the greatest
lie ever told to the American people, and it will
show as his sailed presidency is also everybody saw it.
This was the Emperor's new clothes if there ever was
a great example.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
And Joe Biden, more than anyone, being her.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Education status and loving to go by the term quote doctor,
should be the one most culpable in this entire scheme
because she knew Joe, so she knew the depths that
he was falling to and the fact that they lied,
they lied, they lied, and then they would fuss at
people who brought it up. I got attacked many times
when I brought it up. And I take care of
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a lot of older patients. I still see patients sean,
and so I've seen them decline and it doesn't take
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see
some of this stuff. But this will go down, I
believe is the greatest lie ever told to the American people.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I was excoriated when I brought this up. And then
night after night on television and day after day on radio,
I would just play him in his own words, and
it was obvious, and there was obvious that they were
hiding him from public view and that he wasn't able
to do normal events like a president. On the other hand,
I watched Donald Trump work, you know, seventeen straight hours
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without taking a break on the flight back after a
pretty arduous trip in the Middle East. He worked the
entire time home. He never stopped. He was working the phones,
he was doing paperwork, he was you know, writing truth
social the ki didn't stop except maybe to get a
bite to eat. Then you go right back to work,
you know, if somebody's up up for a job or
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not Bernie, I would say, Bernie Sanders is cognitively very
strong and it was obviously obvious.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Joe wasn't. But sad for him.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I mean, I think that he was not served well
by the medical doctors around him, and that's a shame.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
I would agree.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
And you know, somebody's questions whether any type of treatment,
if there has been treatment for this, to the lead
to his cognitive clin if he's been getting treatment quietly
for the last two or three years, there are some
medications that can lead to cognitive declin It's just really
when was the diagnosis made? And you know, again he's
had prostate cancer for years, there's no debating about that.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
But until you proved it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Rather than just say it was in his body rather
than detected, it is really the real question here, based.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
On their history of covering up. I have my real suspicions,
I really do. But we do appreciate your time, Congressman
and medical doctor Greg Murphy, North Carolina's third district. We
appreciate you being with us, Sir one Shawn our number.
If you want to be a part of the program.
We'll get to your calls coming up here. Let me
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just just follow up a little bit on this issue
of Joe Biden and it's it's it's now his critical mass.
I mean, when when you have the likes of Van
Jones saying Democrats will be paying for Biden's cover up
for a long time. And I'm not being critical of
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Van because I think he saw it, but I think
he was somewhat quiet about it. I think people like
him and David Axelrod were two of the people that
were maybe kind of, you know, hinting around the edges.
This guy's not up to this job. But with that said,
you know now that this book came out of, ironically,
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of all people, fake Jake Tapper. I mean, you know,
you're making fun of his stutter. Nobody's ever talked about
Joe Biden having a stutter, not that I can recall,
not one prominent conservative that I can think of. Maybe
somebody did, if they did, I don't know about it.
And it was obvious cognitive decline. And when we first
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started talking about it, we got the crap kicked out
of us, which is part for the course, and in
my business, that's fine. And even in the end for
some people they say, oh, they didn't know until the debate,
and you know what, they're all lying. They all saw it,
they all knew it, they all covered it up, they
all didn't care because they all hated Trump more.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Here's what Van Jones said.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
This is the Emperor's new clothes playing itself out in
real time. Everybody knew, but everyone was afraid to say,
except what Dave David ancelroid for two years that something
was wrong here. So you know, yeah, I was shocked.
I love Joe Biden. I don't like him, I love him.
I got a chance to work with him when I
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was the part of the Obama administration and loved him
more every day. I was shocked to see his condition
when he came out, and so was the world. And
that wasn't the first time he was in that condition.
The book makes it very very clear there are people
who knew and said nothing, and that is a crime
against this republic. And I think the Democrats are going
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to pay for a long time for being a part
of what is now being revealed to be a massive
cover up.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But there were so many massive cover ups, and yes,
it's a national security threat. When a president is in
cognitive decline, and we survived it, but barely. In my view,
here is James Clyburn. You know, so I never saw
anything unusual of Biden's either, I think he could have
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continued to perform as president is delusional and just not truthful.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
You know. The fact of the matter is I saw
Biden often, but not as often as people seem to
think I saw him. I talked to him on the
telephone very often, and I never saw anything that I
thought was outside of the ordinary. So I never saw
anything I thought it was unusual.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
Do you think that Joe Biden really would have been
able to perform as president all the way through January
twenty twenty nine when he would have been when he
would be eighty six.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
Yes, I thought that back then. I still think that,
but I don't know that when people ask me, did
I know this or did I know the other? And
the fact of the matter is no, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Now we're finally getting some of the Robert hurt tapes.
Remember Robert Hurr had ascertained that Joe Biden was not
be prosecuted because he would be come off as a
forgetful old man who was quote came off as very
nice but very forgetful and didn't know much of anything.
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And they covered up that tape too. This should have
been released before the election. But again all part of
a state run legacy media mob cover up, a deep
state cover up. And it was, you know, like everything
else involving Donald Trump, that the hating Trump was their
number one priority. And here's part of that. This is
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Robert her asking Biden when he kept documents at where
he kept them, and he can't answer, and then says
it's around twenty seventeen or in eighteen when bow was
deployed or is dying, and he forgets when his son
Bo died, and he forgets the year that he left office.
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Now I am sorry, but it gets to a point
this is just not believable. Both Biden died in May
of twenty fifteen. He was forty six years old. And
listen to this as you hear Biden in these tapes, so.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Dreams side rely Chambers Road and or dying to the head.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
Biden Center or Bio Love, Where.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Did you keep tapers that related to those things that
you were actively working?
Speaker 11 (20:35):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
This is what.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
Twenty seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That are.
Speaker 11 (20:49):
Remember in this time frame, my son is h about
deployed or is dying. And what's happening though, when when doom.
Speaker 10 (21:06):
Dieba May thirtish tween twenty fifteen and died fifteen?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Was twenty fifteen or after the months or yeah, that's
why yesterday.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
And what's happened in the meantime is that as and.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
Chump gets elected in November twenty seventeen, sixteen sixteen, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
All right, so.
Speaker 10 (21:47):
Twenty seventeen year, that's when you left the office in
January joh okay, but that's when Cheum has sworn in.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
That's what I didn't even about. Cordon kim.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
And in seventeen.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Go ahead past.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
This this person, I mean, he was president of the
United States of America. This is a clear and present
danger to our country. They all knew, they all covered up.
They knew the dirty dossier was bogus. They used it anyway,
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no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute, but they'll raid more lago.
They knew we had top secret classified documents and four
different locations. That's not equal justice, equal application of our laws.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It is.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It is one lie, one cover up, one deep state
maneuver after another against Trump. This very very scary, this
has happened to our country and cleaning it up. I
don't know if we can clean it all up in
four years. I know that a lot of issues came
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up involving you know, for example, James Comy and everybody else.
Do you really believe that this eighty six forty seven
was an accident?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Do you really believe that? Because I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
All right, quick break as we continue, eight hundred and
nine four one sean, if you want to be a
part of the program, Greg Jared. At the top of
the hour, we'll talk about James Comy eighty six quote
forty seven just a mirror accident. Well it's not his
first accident. We'll explain and what should happen on the
other side, And then later moriar calls coming up as well.
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Eight hundred and nine four one sean. If you want
to be a part of the program, we'll say one thing.
It's great to be home, it really is. I don't
think the Middle East is for me. I don't want
to live there, all right. As we continue along, Don
Lake Roan Kankama, Don, how are you welcome aboard?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Sir glad you.
Speaker 12 (24:07):
Hey, Sean, welcome back home. There's no rest for the
weary as far as news is concerned. Since you touched down,
everything's gone on that crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I've been working.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I've been working all weekend, even though the working and
sleeping because I didn't get much sleep when I was overseas.
Speaker 12 (24:25):
I bet the jet leg is tough to get over. Listen, Sean,
I have a question for you Dot that historic trip
you to the Middle East with the President Trump, there
were so many special events, the receptions that Trump received,
the deals with the Saudi government and the Syrian government,
and the surprise visitor for our groups at the Guitar
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Air Base, and then and then.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
By the way I was at that, the President mentioned
me I was backstage at the time, and he thought
I was in the crowd. But I went to all
of it, and that was the thing was kind of
I get up and because it's we were seven hours
ahead all the day's events, I went to and then
it was late at night. Then I would you were
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in the White House bubble when you're traveling with Air
Force one. And then I would leave to go do
radio and TV, and then then then my work day
began even though it was a full on workday leading
up to that, which I was honored to be a
part of and cover and be able to, you know,
share with all of you and you know, and try
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and get on the air as as often as I could.
The only reason I wasn't on Thursday is the equipment
didn't arrive in time because there was a press plane
and that plane follows the President got there too late
for us to set up and do the show on Thursday,
and then Friday was a travel day back and you know,
we landed around nine thirty. I would just say all
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of it, and and what's emerging is a Trump doctrine
that is far different than I I think people fully
completely understand. It was a big deal when the President
said at all three stops that he wants these countries
to join the Abraham Accords. People kept saying, I noticed
writing back here, well, why isn't Israel included in the trip? Well,
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the one world leader that President Trump has talked to
and met with the most is Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu.
But it's bigger and it's deeper than just I mean,
the amount of money that we're talking about and commitments
is in the trillions of dollars when all is said
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and done, and that's going to be good for the
American economy. But also I do believe that they are
getting to the point where they all of these countries
and this happened in Trump's first term, are aligned against
Iranian hegemony.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
That is a fact.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And I think that they view that the person that
will keep a ram and line is Donald J.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Trump.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And they have put all their chips in the middle
of the table and said they want to be in
business with the US. And I think with that now
you have to trust, but verify. They've got to reject
and they're committing to reject their their radicalism or turning
a blind eye towards radicalism.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
That will be that will be shown over time.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And and they want to build out their economies and
diversify beyond oil. There's no doubt that that's all true.
I got to say thank you to my crew on radio,
my crew on TV. Everybody worked so hard to make
all of this happen. It's not easy to do these
long trips. We've done them before, we've done we'll do
them again. But it's a heavy lift for my team.
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And and they have the best attitude about it. Even
Linda had a good attitude about it, right, Linda, Yeah,
sure that was not the most well you you kind
of had a good attitude about it.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
I was nice.
Speaker 13 (28:00):
There were a lot of things behind the scenes that
were really frustrating, but.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It's always frustrating. Singapore, Vietnam, hell Sinki. I mean, you've
done all these trips, none of them are easy, but
certainly worthwhile. And then you're like, why don't you just
take the week off and go on vacation? But that's
not the point the point.
Speaker 13 (28:19):
Yeah, I never said that, that's just what you heard.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
No, but you kind of said, don't you want to?
Speaker 13 (28:25):
I said, go do this trip. It's it's magnanimous. You know,
it's a once in a lifetime You're on Air Force
one with the President. It's something that you know no
one is ever gonna It's not a regular thing. You know,
regular people don't do this.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, but what good is it if I can't share
with my audience. That's the only reason I'm there is
because of them, So of the whole idea is to
share it with them. Eight hundred and nine four one
Shawn is a number if you want to be a
part of the program. We'll still get to more of
your calls.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Coming up.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Greg Jarrett will join us as well, and we're going
to talk about this eighty six forty seven and what
should happen with James call Me. By the way, it's
not the first time call Me has this little game
that he plays with shells, which has not really been
widely reported
Thanks Scott chan An Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight
hundred and nine to four one, Sean, if you want
to be a part of the program, there are so
many questions every doctor I've spoken to and every man
listening to this program. If you get regular checkups, you
get what is known as a PSA test, and over
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the years you get a baseline what your PSA is.
For example, some people, some friends of mine, are a
little bit higher than I am. I happen to be
like zero point nine to one point one is my baseline,
and one year it had doubled, and almost immediately I
had a biopsy because my doctor is one of my
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best friends, is like, we're not taking any chances with this.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And so.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
When you get to this late stage and the fact
that prostate cancer has metastasized, it is raising an awful
lot of questions. And every doctor that I know of,
and I've spoken to many over the weekend, I say
that Biden was likely diagnosed with this cancer long before,
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you know, probably before twenty twenty. And every medical expert
that I've talked to, you know, points to the you know,
a possible cover up here. Let's go to his doctor
Zeke Emmanuel saying that he probably had prostate cancer at
the start of his presidency in twenty twenty one, among
other things.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Doesn't it take some time for prostate cancer to develop
to point where it would spread to the bones?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Oh, he's had this for many years, maybe even a decade,
growing there and spreading.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
It's a little surprising. I look back at the records,
and there's no evidence that when he got his health
status and the medical records were released, that he had
a prostate specific anigen. Now, it is true that a
lot of people recommend not doing a prostate specific admagen
after seventy but President Biden's been.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
In public life for a very long time.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
He was vice president and had a lot of exams
under seventy and it is a little surprising to many
of us oncologists that he wasn't diagnosed earlier.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
You believe it is likely, if this prostate cancer has
spread to the bone, that he could have had it
for up to a decade, But certainly it's likely. Would
it be fair to say it's likely to have had
this for at least several years, oh.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
More than several years.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
He did not develop it in the last one hundred
two hundred days he had it while he was president.
He probably had it at the start of his presidency
in twenty one. Yes, I don't think there's any agreement
about that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And almost without exception, every doctor that's being quoted in
the media, quote doctor Howard Foreman is saying in a
post on X, it's inconceivable this was not being followed
before he left the presidency. Glease in grade nine would
have had an elevated PSA level for some time before
the diagnosis. Doctor Stephen Quhi flagged similar concern saying Biden's
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type of cancer is the easiest to diagnose when it
first starts. The PSA blood tests shows that the rate
of cancer cell growth for even the most aggressive form
it is, you know, five to seven And it shows
that the PSA blood test shows the rate of cancer
cell growth, and it's a five to seven year journey
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without treatment before it metastasizes, meaning it would be malpracticed
for this patient to show up and be first diagnosed
with metastatic disease. In May of twenty twenty five, he continued,
it's highly likely he was carrying a diagnosis of prostate
cancer throughout his White House tenure, and the American people
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were not informed. And I can go on quoting doctor
after doctor after doctor, and you know which raises questions
of a possible cover up to his own detriment here
and you know, most doctors that I've spoken to say
most men will die with prostate cancer, but they won't
die from prostate cancer anyway. Here to weigh in his
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doctor and well, Congressmen and doctor Greg Murphy of North
Carolina's third district congressman, great to have you on the program.
You are a urologist or an expert in this field.
Am I wrong or are they wrong in anything they're saying?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, I think there's some nuances that people are not mentioning.
Cancer does not appear overnight. It's actually a normal function
of the body that we develop cancer cells. You have
them floating in your body right now. I have them
floating in our body. In my body. Our body as
them and takes care of them. It does take years
for cancers to develop certain ones. Sometimes the particular cancer,
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for example, grows very very quickly pasta cancer. Kidney cancer
grows very very slowly. The real question is when was
this diagnosed, because yes, he probably had it in his prostate,
he had cancer cells in his past, probably at least
for the last five years, but that doesn't mean it
was diagnosed. That doesn't necessarily mean there was any cover up.
I just want to be I want to try to
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be really truly objective here, Sean, because it matters, really
when was the first biops he done? That really tells everything.
Was it something that he either got a PSA test,
or that the doctor didn't order it, or the doctor
didn't do a rectal examination or Biden refused it. We
have some doctors across this country now, and it's sad
who are not doing both the PSA and the rectal
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examination if they're doing the PSA at all, and.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
So they are really a lot more variables.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's not quite as cut and dry as I think
some people are saying, Biden, could you know the doctor
could have said, hey.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Are you saying that they would not have been any
indication or the possibility they would not have been an
indication with a PSA score, you know, rising somewhat precipitously,
especially considering the number of years it takes to metastasize.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, but Sean here's the one thing. Most most prostate
cancers make a lot of PSA, and that's really the
point of detection. You have somebody with a PSA of
thirty with what they have a lot of cancer. But
I have seen patients die of prostate cancer because it
is so aggressive that they basically die with the PSA
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of zero. And explain that a little bit. These high
gleas and score cancers, the cells are very very distorted.
They're not very much like regular prostate tissue cells. So
they oftentimes not all the time and are actually the
minority of the time. They don't make enough PSA. So
you can have somebody with a diagnosis of past cancer
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with a PSA of two, but you stick your you
do a rectal examination, and they have a nodule. I've
even seen two patients over my career, and again this
is rare who have died from metashatic prostate cancer who
have undetectable PSAs. So it is not without question that
Biden had a PSA of two two and a half
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and his doctor did not do a rectal examination and
all of a sudden it showed up with disease and
his pelvis or in his bone somewhere. So it's just
it's not quite as black and white as some people
are painting it. We don't know the facts. We don't
know exactly what his PSAs were. We don't know if
he refused to do something, or the doctor was negligent
in pushing an intervention or a diagnosis or along the way.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, would you would it be fair to say that?
And it's kind of hard to imagine, knowing that the
care that is given to a president. I was with
President Trump all last week on a trip to the
Middle East, and I can tell tell you there are
doctors around him at all hours of the day and night.
They're on Air Force One, they are wherever the president goes.
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There there's an ability to have an operating room right
where he is and on any location. And I would
imagine for a president in particular, that they're getting the
best medical care possible. For you to say that one
test that would be critical to ascertaining the truth about
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prostate cancer not given to almost part of his overall,
you know, medical checkups seems inconceivable to me, Am I wrong, No.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But you know, there's some people that don't recommend PSA
screenings over age seventy five or especially over eighty, and
if somebody has an elevated PSA when they're eighty of
maybe eight or nine, I generally don't do anything with
it because we just watch it, we follow it. In
the vast majority of those individuals.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
As you pointed out earlier, it's part.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Of a treatment, as you know, what is a careful
watching and waiting or if you have the exact terminology
that you use.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
But you don't mean I don't necessarily have to do
a biopsy to diagnose something.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
But here's the one.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Here's another crux of the matter is that, yeah, while
you may not do a PSA surveillance or on a
seventy five or eighty year old, you sure as hell
should be doing it on an eighty two year old
who's going to be a running for the most powerful
position in the world. And so there are a lot
of questions here that are not answered. Did I think again,
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going to the crux of the matter is when was
the biopsy done? It could have been done as late
as five weeks ago, because you said, all of a sudden,
now it's quote hormone sensitive, and the only way you
can determine if a cancer, a prostate cancer is hormone sensitive,
is to give them a medication and then after a
month or so, see if the PSA falls, because if
the PSA doesn't fall, it doesn't mean it's sensitive to
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the hormone. And that could literally have been just done
five weeks ago, or could it have been done couple
of years ago.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
It's possible.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I just don't think we have anything that can prove
that without looking at the records themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
All right, quick break, we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We'll continue more with congressmen and medical doctor Greg Murphy
of North Carolina's third District on the other side, and
then your calls coming up eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean,
if you want to join us. All right, we continue
now with medical doctor also congressman, doctor Greg Murphy of
North Carolina's third district. Let's talk about his prognosis now
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that it's metastasized, we know to the bones, and it's
a very aggressive prostate cancer and a very dangerous one
based on what you can read obviously not examined the
former president, what would you say, You know, the prognosis
is for him, you know, it just.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Depends on a lot of different factors how well he
responds to hormone therapy.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Sean.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I've operated on a patient he's probably now it's twenty
years and he presented with the bony disease in his
peller us, and I did a hormonal intervention on him
where he actually removed the testicles because that removes the testosterone,
and he's still alive today some twenty years later. But
that's not the norm. I've also seen patients who present
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with this pass away in six, eight weeks, three months.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
The norm, though, is you'll do hormonal.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Treatment and they'll respond to that for a year and
a half, sometimes two years, maybe even longer. But then
literally in the last fifteen years, there have been so
many new interventions and new medications. I tell this story
a lot that I used to have to go in
and tell some patients that it is time to get
their affairs in order. But now I don't have to
do that nearly as much with prostate cancer, that we
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have other drugs and other levels of drug that if
this one fails, we tried this next one. If this
one fails, we tried this next one. So he very
well again, depending upon how he responds to the hormone
treatment or how long this has been going on. There's
some new treatments now with radio nuclear things that go
in and they tag this PSA and they just go
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straight to the cancer cell and kill it directly. It's
a radio nuclei.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
And well, I guess there's a reason for a lot
of the suspicion. And I'll even quote Van Jones, who
work with the Obama administration. You know, he literally called
the cover up of Joe's cognitive decline, which was transparent
to me and anybody with eyes to see even before
the twenty twenty election. It was not the same Joe Biden.
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And if they had they loved him enough, they would
never have allowed this to continue.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, I think this will go down as the greatest
lie ever told to the American people, and it will
show as his sailed presidency is also everybody saw it.
This was the Emperor's new clothes if there ever was
a great example.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
And Joe Biden, more than anyone, being her.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Education status and loving to go by the term quote doctor,
should be the one most culpable in this entire scheme
because she knew Joe, so she knew the depths that
he was falling to and the fact that they lied,
they lied, they lied, and then they would fuss at
people who brought it up. I got attacked many times
when I brought it up. And I take care of
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a lot of older patients. I still see patients sean,
and so I've seen them decline and it doesn't take
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see
some of this stuff. But this will go down, I
believe is the greatest lie ever told to the American people.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I was excoriated when I brought this up. And then
night after night on television and day after day on radio,
I would just play him in his own words, and
it was obvious, and there was obvious that they were
hiding him from public view and that he wasn't able
to do normal events like a president. On the other hand,
I watched Donald Trump work, you know, seventeen straight hours
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without taking a break on the flight back after a
pretty arduous trip in the Middle East. He worked the
entire time home. He never stopped. He was working the phones,
he was doing paperwork, he was you know, writing truth
social the ki didn't stop except maybe to get a
bite to eat. Then you go right back to work,
you know, if somebody's up up for a job or
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not Bernie, I would say, Bernie Sanders is cognitively very
strong and it was obviously obvious.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Joe wasn't. But sad for him.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I mean, I think that he was not served well
by the medical doctors around him, and that's a shame.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
I would agree.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
And you know, somebody's questions whether any type of treatment,
if there has been treatment for this, to the lead
to his cognitive clin if he's been getting treatment quietly
for the last two or three years, there are some
medications that can lead to cognitive declin It's just really
when was the diagnosis made? And you know, again he's
had prostate cancer for years, there's no debating about that.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
But until you proved it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Rather than just say it was in his body rather
than detected, it is really the real question here, based.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
On their history of covering up. I have my real suspicions,
I really do. But we do appreciate your time, Congressman
and medical doctor Greg Murphy, North Carolina's third district. We
appreciate you being with us, Sir one Shawn our number.
If you want to be a part of the program.
We'll get to your calls coming up here. Let me
(15:18):
just just follow up a little bit on this issue
of Joe Biden and it's it's it's now his critical mass.
I mean, when when you have the likes of Van
Jones saying Democrats will be paying for Biden's cover up
for a long time. And I'm not being critical of
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Van because I think he saw it, but I think
he was somewhat quiet about it. I think people like
him and David Axelrod were two of the people that
were maybe kind of, you know, hinting around the edges.
This guy's not up to this job. But with that said,
you know now that this book came out of, ironically,
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of all people, fake Jake Tapper. I mean, you know,
you're making fun of his stutter. Nobody's ever talked about
Joe Biden having a stutter, not that I can recall,
not one prominent conservative that I can think of. Maybe
somebody did, if they did, I don't know about it.
And it was obvious cognitive decline. And when we first
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started talking about it, we got the crap kicked out
of us, which is part for the course, and in
my business, that's fine. And even in the end for
some people they say, oh, they didn't know until the debate,
and you know what, they're all lying. They all saw it,
they all knew it, they all covered it up, they
all didn't care because they all hated Trump more.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Here's what Van Jones said.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
This is the Emperor's new clothes playing itself out in
real time. Everybody knew, but everyone was afraid to say,
except what Dave David ancelroid for two years that something
was wrong here. So you know, yeah, I was shocked.
I love Joe Biden. I don't like him, I love him.
I got a chance to work with him when I
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was the part of the Obama administration and loved him
more every day. I was shocked to see his condition
when he came out, and so was the world. And
that wasn't the first time he was in that condition.
The book makes it very very clear there are people
who knew and said nothing, and that is a crime
against this republic. And I think the Democrats are going
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to pay for a long time for being a part
of what is now being revealed to be a massive
cover up.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But there were so many massive cover ups, and yes,
it's a national security threat. When a president is in
cognitive decline, and we survived it, but barely. In my view,
here is James Clyburn. You know, so I never saw
anything unusual of Biden's either, I think he could have
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continued to perform as president is delusional and just not truthful.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
You know. The fact of the matter is I saw
Biden often, but not as often as people seem to
think I saw him. I talked to him on the
telephone very often, and I never saw anything that I
thought was outside of the ordinary. So I never saw
anything I thought it was unusual.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
Do you think that Joe Biden really would have been
able to perform as president all the way through January
twenty twenty nine when he would have been when he
would be eighty six.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
Yes, I thought that back then. I still think that,
but I don't know that when people ask me, did
I know this or did I know the other? And
the fact of the matter is no, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Now we're finally getting some of the Robert hurt tapes.
Remember Robert Hurr had ascertained that Joe Biden was not
be prosecuted because he would be come off as a
forgetful old man who was quote came off as very
nice but very forgetful and didn't know much of anything.
(19:10):
And they covered up that tape too. This should have
been released before the election. But again all part of
a state run legacy media mob cover up, a deep
state cover up. And it was, you know, like everything
else involving Donald Trump, that the hating Trump was their
number one priority. And here's part of that. This is
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Robert her asking Biden when he kept documents at where
he kept them, and he can't answer, and then says
it's around twenty seventeen or in eighteen when bow was
deployed or is dying, and he forgets when his son
Bo died, and he forgets the year that he left office.
(19:54):
Now I am sorry, but it gets to a point
this is just not believable. Both Biden died in May
of twenty fifteen. He was forty six years old. And
listen to this as you hear Biden in these tapes, so.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Dreams side rely Chambers Road and or dying to the head.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
Biden Center or Bio Love, Where.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Did you keep tapers that related to those things that
you were actively working?
Speaker 11 (20:35):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
This is what.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
Twenty seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That are.
Speaker 11 (20:49):
Remember in this time frame, my son is h about
deployed or is dying. And what's happening though, when when doom.
Speaker 10 (21:06):
Dieba May thirtish tween twenty fifteen and died fifteen?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Was twenty fifteen or after the months or yeah, that's
why yesterday.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
And what's happened in the meantime is that as and.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
Chump gets elected in November twenty seventeen, sixteen sixteen, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
All right, so.
Speaker 10 (21:47):
Twenty seventeen year, that's when you left the office in
January joh okay, but that's when Cheum has sworn in.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
That's what I didn't even about. Cordon kim.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
And in seventeen.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Go ahead past.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
This this person, I mean, he was president of the
United States of America. This is a clear and present
danger to our country. They all knew, they all covered up.
They knew the dirty dossier was bogus. They used it anyway,
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no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute, but they'll raid more lago.
They knew we had top secret classified documents and four
different locations. That's not equal justice, equal application of our laws.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It is.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It is one lie, one cover up, one deep state
maneuver after another against Trump. This very very scary, this
has happened to our country and cleaning it up. I
don't know if we can clean it all up in
four years. I know that a lot of issues came
(23:12):
up involving you know, for example, James Comy and everybody else.
Do you really believe that this eighty six forty seven
was an accident?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Do you really believe that? Because I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
All right, quick break as we continue, eight hundred and
nine four one sean, if you want to be a
part of the program, Greg Jared. At the top of
the hour, we'll talk about James Comy eighty six quote
forty seven just a mirror accident. Well it's not his
first accident. We'll explain and what should happen on the
other side, And then later moriar calls coming up as well.
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Eight hundred and nine four one sean. If you want
to be a part of the program, we'll say one thing.
It's great to be home, it really is. I don't
think the Middle East is for me. I don't want
to live there, all right. As we continue along, Don
Lake Roan Kankama, Don, how are you welcome aboard?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Sir glad you.
Speaker 12 (24:07):
Hey, Sean, welcome back home. There's no rest for the
weary as far as news is concerned. Since you touched down,
everything's gone on that crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I've been working.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I've been working all weekend, even though the working and
sleeping because I didn't get much sleep when I was overseas.
Speaker 12 (24:25):
I bet the jet leg is tough to get over. Listen, Sean,
I have a question for you Dot that historic trip
you to the Middle East with the President Trump, there
were so many special events, the receptions that Trump received,
the deals with the Saudi government and the Syrian government,
and the surprise visitor for our groups at the Guitar
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Air Base, and then and then.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
By the way I was at that, the President mentioned
me I was backstage at the time, and he thought
I was in the crowd. But I went to all
of it, and that was the thing was kind of
I get up and because it's we were seven hours
ahead all the day's events, I went to and then
it was late at night. Then I would you were
(25:11):
in the White House bubble when you're traveling with Air
Force one. And then I would leave to go do
radio and TV, and then then then my work day
began even though it was a full on workday leading
up to that, which I was honored to be a
part of and cover and be able to, you know,
share with all of you and you know, and try
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and get on the air as as often as I could.
The only reason I wasn't on Thursday is the equipment
didn't arrive in time because there was a press plane
and that plane follows the President got there too late
for us to set up and do the show on Thursday,
and then Friday was a travel day back and you know,
we landed around nine thirty. I would just say all
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of it, and and what's emerging is a Trump doctrine
that is far different than I I think people fully
completely understand. It was a big deal when the President
said at all three stops that he wants these countries
to join the Abraham Accords. People kept saying, I noticed
writing back here, well, why isn't Israel included in the trip? Well,
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the one world leader that President Trump has talked to
and met with the most is Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu.
But it's bigger and it's deeper than just I mean,
the amount of money that we're talking about and commitments
is in the trillions of dollars when all is said
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and done, and that's going to be good for the
American economy. But also I do believe that they are
getting to the point where they all of these countries
and this happened in Trump's first term, are aligned against
Iranian hegemony.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
That is a fact.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And I think that they view that the person that
will keep a ram and line is Donald J.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Trump.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And they have put all their chips in the middle
of the table and said they want to be in
business with the US. And I think with that now
you have to trust, but verify. They've got to reject
and they're committing to reject their their radicalism or turning
a blind eye towards radicalism.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
That will be that will be shown over time.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And and they want to build out their economies and
diversify beyond oil. There's no doubt that that's all true.
I got to say thank you to my crew on radio,
my crew on TV. Everybody worked so hard to make
all of this happen. It's not easy to do these
long trips. We've done them before, we've done we'll do
them again. But it's a heavy lift for my team.
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And and they have the best attitude about it. Even
Linda had a good attitude about it, right, Linda, Yeah,
sure that was not the most well you you kind
of had a good attitude about it.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
I was nice.
Speaker 13 (28:00):
There were a lot of things behind the scenes that
were really frustrating, but.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It's always frustrating. Singapore, Vietnam, hell Sinki. I mean, you've
done all these trips, none of them are easy, but
certainly worthwhile. And then you're like, why don't you just
take the week off and go on vacation? But that's
not the point the point.
Speaker 13 (28:19):
Yeah, I never said that, that's just what you heard.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
No, but you kind of said, don't you want to?
Speaker 13 (28:25):
I said, go do this trip. It's it's magnanimous. You know,
it's a once in a lifetime You're on Air Force
one with the President. It's something that you know no
one is ever gonna It's not a regular thing. You know,
regular people don't do this.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, but what good is it if I can't share
with my audience. That's the only reason I'm there is
because of them, So of the whole idea is to
share it with them. Eight hundred and nine four one
Shawn is a number if you want to be a
part of the program. We'll still get to more of
your calls.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Coming up.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Greg Jarrett will join us as well, and we're going
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