October 27, 2025 • 32 mins
Major news unfolded as Congressman Jim Jordan, House Judiciary Committee chair, publicly announced a criminal referral against former CIA Director John Brennan for allegedly lying to Congress. Jordan specifically accuses Brennan of making knowingly false statements under oath about the Steele dossiers role in intelligence community assessments linked to the 2016 Trump-Russia probe. In his exclusive discussion with Sean Hannity, Jordan details how newly declassified reports contradict Brennan's testimony, revealing an intent to damage President Trump and suggesting a broader political conspiracy. The episode features Jordans firsthand insights and highlights potential legal actions that could impact top Democratic figures, illustrating why integrity in government testimony matters for public trust.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred and ninety four
one shawns on number if you want to be a
part of the program Big News last week. John Brennan,
This is an ex post by Congressman Jim Jordan, the
House Judiciary Committee Chair. John Brennan lied to Congress today.
We referred him to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution,
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and then he linked a letter that he sent to
the Attorney General, Pam Bondy. We write to refer significant
evidence that the former Director of the CIA, John Brennan,
knowingly made false statements during his transcribed interview before the
Committee of the Judiciary on May eleven, twenty twenty three.
While testifying, Brennan made numerous willfully and intentionally false statements
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of material fact contradicted by the record established by the
House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the CIA. Under
eight USC. One thousand and one, A witness commits a
crime if he knowingly willfully makes a materially false statement
of representation with respect to any investigation or review conducted
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pursuing to the authority of any Committee of Congress. And
he goes on to explain a lot of the details.
For example, let me go back in time. We'll start
in twenty seventeen. Now, if you recall, in twenty sixteen,
the dirty Russian disinformation dossier was used as the basis
of the first visa application warrant. It was unverified and
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we all know unverify a bull and completely debunked by
December of that year, twenty sixteen. Here's Brennan in twenty
seventeen saying that the dossier wasn't used as the basis
for any intelligence community assessment.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Here's what he said in a house hearing that took place.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Do you know if the Bureau who ever, relied on
the Steel dossier any as part of any court filings, applications, petitions, pleadings.
I have no awareness did the CIA rely on it?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Because we didn't. It wasn't part of the corpus of
intelligence information that we had. It was not in any
way used as a basis for the intel. It's community
assessment that was done. It was it was not.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, let's move forward to twenty eighteen. This is a
clip of John Brennan saying he was concerned about the
veracity of the Steele dossier, but the FBI had an
obligation to seek out the truth on it. Here's what
he said on Meet the Press with then hosts since departed,
Chucky Todd, how.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
Was the steel Dosia treated it? How did you treat it?
You said you looked at it in December. I assume
it's been looked at by It was obviously looked at
by the FBI. We've now learned they've tried to confirm
some of it and have had some success.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Not yet.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
They don't say it's they don't say it's unconfirmed.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But that's about it.
Speaker 8 (03:06):
Well, there were things in that Dosier that made me
wonder whether or not they would they were in fact
accurate and true, and I do think it was up
to the FBI to see whether or not they could
verify any of it. I think Jim Comi has said
that it was contained salacious and unverified information.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Just because it was unverified didn't mean it wasn't true.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
And if the Russians were involved in something like that
directed against individuals who are aspiring to the highest office
in this land, there was an obligational part of the
FBI to seek out the truth on it.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Then one more clip again twenty eighteen. This is Brennan
saying the Steele dossier didn't play any role in intelligence
assessments to Obama or Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Here listen to this clip.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
When did you first learn of the so called Steele
dosier and what Christopher Steele was doing?
Speaker 8 (03:55):
Well, it was a not a very well kept secret
among press circles for several months before it came out,
and it was in late summer of twenty sixteen when
there were some individuals from the various US news outlets
who asked me about my familiarity with it, and I
had heard just snippets about it. I did not know
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what was in there. I did not see it until
later in that year, I think it was in December,
but I was unaware of the providence of it as
well as what was in it. And it did not
play any role whatsoever in the intelli's community assessments that
was done that was presented to then President Obama and
then President elect Trump.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
If you recall, we now know, thanks to Tulsi Gabberd's
declassifications that in fact, that we had career senior intel
officials look into the whole question of any Trump Russia
collusion and senior career intelligence officials assessed there was none,
and that was presented, and according to the declassification, it
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was Obama himself, working with Clapper and Brennan and other people,
that demanded a new intelligence assessment that ended up concluding
the exact opposite, and that part of that conclusion was
based on the dossier. Jim Jordan, House Judiciary Committee Chair,
True or false?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
No?
Speaker 9 (05:17):
True. As I said last week, Sean, you're not supposed
to lie, but you're definitely not supposed to lie when
you're under oath and you're talking to Congress. And that's
exactly what it looks like mister Brendon did, because he
repeated those statements that you played when he was in
front of us last Congress. He said the dossier played
no part in the intelligence community assessment, and I pushed
to not have it in the intelligence community assessment. The
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only problem is, as you pointed out, is when Director
National Intelligence Tulsey Gabbert declassified the House Intelligence Committee report
from a few years ago, it said just the opposite.
In fact, it related a story in there Sean where
another CI official actually confronted mister Brennan and said, this
dossier doesn't hold up. There's no underlying intelligence to support it,
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shouldn't put it in the intelligence community assessment that we
take to President Trump and brief well, then President Electromp
shouldn't do that. But Brennan response responded by saying, yeah,
but doesn't it ring true? And I think just showing
his entire motive his mindset, which was to go get
President Trump. And then that's exactly what they did. Is
we've talked about many times. They then went up to
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Trump Tower on January sixth, twenty seventeen, when it was
President Electromp gave him is what he thinks his defensive briefing,
his intelligence briefing that you get before you become president.
And in fact, what they were trying to do is
set him up and create the predicate for the whole
Muller investigation and how they were going to try to
sabotage his entire first term.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
But the reality too is is a true or false
that in August of twenty sixteen that Bruce or had
warned everybody that the dossier's political in nature and nobody
should trust it.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Wasn't Brennan aware of it then?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And number two didn't Brennan himself how to have a
meeting in the White House informing Obama that Hillary Clinton's
campaign was building up a narrative about Donald Trump and
Russia as part of a political scheme.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
Yes, exactly right. And they had this meeting also in
December of sixteen, again between election day and Inauguration Day,
where they decided to do the new IC assessment, the
new Intelligence Community Assessment, the new report. And that's the
one that they put the dossier in. For goodness sake,
because they go up to Temp Tower and briefing about it.
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Colemy does it himself. So yeah, this all played out
as part of this effort. And again I think the
motive is clearly displayed in this the facts that Tulci
brought forward when she declassified this report, where you have
this person saying to Brennan, we shouldn't use this dossi
at all. But his response is, yeah, but doesn't it
ring true. They wanted to believe it. They wanted to
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believe this garbage document was true. And you're right, Schehn.
Remember it was the Clinton campaign, through the law firm,
who then hired the public relationship.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The law firms Perkins Cooey.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Perkins Cooey then funnels the money to an OP research firm,
Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS then hires Christopher Steele, former MI
six agent.
Speaker 9 (08:11):
Correct exactly, a foreigner who writes down all this garbage
that they used in the ICA. And maybe more importantly,
when Trey Gowdy the first clip you played was asking
mister Brinnan the questions he said, did you ever rely
on this in the court filings? Treys? I think getting
at this idea. They used the doc date to help
get defy the warrants, this file and president Toomp's campaign.
Speaker 10 (08:33):
So this is what we put.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Well, we know that first PIZE application went in and
the bulk of information was before the election in October
of twenty sixteen, and James call me signed not only
that one, but the two succeeding ones and there were
four total.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
Yep, exactly right. So there's a pattern here. We think
he lied to when he was under oath, when in
an open hearing, when Trey was asking questions. We think
he also wasn't square with us when we deposed him
last Congress. And then, of course here's the big irony.
We were asking these questions last Congress. The context was
we had brought mister Brennan in to talk to him
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about another lie, which was the fifty one former Intel
officials who told us in that letter before the twenty
twenty election that the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian
information operation, when the FBI had to stink in laptop
and they knew that was garbage. So it's this pattern
we see from Brennan where he doesn't seem to be
square with us in Congress or with the American people.
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And that's why we sent the referral, and I put
it out last week on your show, Sean that I
don't do this very often. The facts have to be there.
I mean, it has to be clear to me and
to our committee that this guy wasn't square with us,
that this guy was lying to us, and he was
under open an obligation to tell the truth. Then and
only then do we send these referrals to the Justice Department.
But we think it's certainly worth to hear, and that's
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why we sent it. It all began in twenty sixteen
with the Dottier and this whole Russia collusion issue was
designed to help Clinton win the election. And then, of
course when they do the fifty one former intels and
tell the country that piece of garbage lie that was
designed to help help Biden win the election. So and then,
as you say, the lawfair was the course to try
to keep President Trump from getting back in office. So
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it was always political. But then what happened back in
sixteen between again election day and inauguration day is they said, Wow,
we didn't stop him. He won the race. Now let's
use the dossier. Now let's lose the use the Russian
hoax as a way to undermine President Trump. The question
that you ask, I think is the central question. This
is a call for the Justice Department. Was there a conspiracy?
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Can they prove there was a conspiracy to stop him
from winning and then undermine his first term and then
prevent him from winning re election? Can you can you
just prove all that? That's the question for Attorney General
bond the Deputy Attorney General Blanche and the team at
the Justice Department. What we know is what we've referred
John Brennan.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Well were a conservative attorney Mike Davis an informal advisor.
According to reports of the Attorney General, Pam Bondi is
claiming now that this grand jury will consider whether to
bring criminal charges against top Democratic figures that he claims
have colluded over the last decade to impede Trump, starting
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with this dirty Russian disinformation dossier, and he is taking
it all the way through the pre bunking of the
very real Hunter Biden laptop. They knew it was going
to be dropped because they knew that Rudy Giuliani's then attorney,
Bob Costello, had a copy of it. They had verified
its authenticity. In March of twenty twenty, they were meeting
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weekly with big tech court companies, warning them that maybe
victims of a Russian disinformation campaign in twenty twenty, knowing
that the laptop was real, and then when it finally
came out in the New York Post, they wouldn't tell
those companies is this true or not true, ultimately resulting
in the suppression of that information prior to an election
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that I think would have had a great impact on it,
and then lawf air and weaponization from twenty twenty to
twenty twenty four to make Trump unelectable, you know, in
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (12:07):
Yeah, no, Look, I think I think you've described it
exactly what it is. I saw Mike Davis's report from
what he had said. I think over the weekend, we'll
just have to see that this is again, this is
a call for the Attorney General if they think the
facts are there and there are a lot of good
facts that you just pointed out, and the facts that
we've discovered in our committee and we've begain referred to
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refer them to the Justice Department. We'll just have to see.
But I think it's a compelling case. They were certainly
out to get President Trump for the last nine years.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
All right, quick break right back more with Congressman Jim Jordan,
chairman of the powerful House Judiciary Committee in Congress. Will continue.
We'll get to your calls on the other side today.
Give us a call eight hundred and nine to one,
Sean if you want to be a part of this
program as we continue.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Entered daining Americans, Go, didn go.
Speaker 11 (13:01):
Sean Hannity is on it down.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
How do we continue now?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Jim Jordan, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Let me
ask this question, how did Camy get off the hook?
I guess the statute of limitations have run out unless
there's a grand conspiracy charge.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But call mey.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know signed three of the four PISA warrants. That's
a nine month period of time. My understanding is Christopher
Steele was kind of booted in December of twenty sixteen
because they realized that the dossier was was garbed badge
and bar talk, and so he was out, but call
me kept still kept using it for two more PISO
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applications and then a third one side by Rob Rosenstein
at the time. The fourth one and are they not
by law supposed to go to the court and say
that the information provided to them to acquire the the
PISA app PISO warrant, uh, that false information was given
to the court and then give the court a chance
to you know, rescind that.
Speaker 9 (14:28):
Yeah, they are, they're they're supposed to sign and sign on,
sign on and say this is accurate information. The only
one who got in trouble was the guy who actually
changed information. He changed the contents of an email. Is
Kevin's clientsmith. But he basically got a slap on the wrist.
Remember during the when this when we all start to
figure this out, and it was you and it was
some of us in Congress and a handful of people
started to dig into this. It took us a while
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to get all the facts and get get everything figured out,
and by the time we did, then you then you
you get into the Biden administration because of you know,
the if you want to Intel letter and everything else
and what happened in that campaign, and of course the
Garland Justice Department and the Biden administration aren't going to
prosecute anyone. And so now here we are eight years later,
and we have an attorney general, we have an administration
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who's saying we're going to hold people accountable who did
things wrong. Now the left says we're engaging in the
very law fair they engaged, and that's it's not true.
We're trying to hold people accountable. So this kind of
garbage doesn't happen in the future. So we will just
have to see. But the reason Komi wasn't held accountable
center is it because of the Garland ray. The Garland
Justice Department.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
In the ray at Heugh was protected and the statute
of limitations ran out unless there's a grand conspiracy charge
exactly exactly.
Speaker 9 (15:38):
Now with Brennan, there's the statute of limitations on him
lying eighteen USC.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
One thousand and one.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
Lying to Congress has not run out because he just
testified in front of us two years ago, so that's
a five year statute of limitation. So there's certainly that charge.
But will that be part of a bigger, broader conspiracy charge.
That's up to the Attorney General.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
All right, he is the chairman of the very important
House Judiciary Committee. Chairman Jim Jordan is with us. We'll
stay focused.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And dialed in.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I spent too many years of my life unpeeling every
layer of that onion with a small ensemble cast you included.
Thank you, We appreciate your time. Jim Jordan, Thank you, sir,
Thank you.
Speaker 12 (16:15):
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up in the off year elections, and we'll have an
announcement tonight about these off year elections on Hannity on
the Fox News channel that you're going to want to
tune into.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Let's put it this way.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We will be on the road this week and hopefully
many of you might be able to join us. I'll
tell you and announce it tonight. Kamala Harris suggesting this
weekend she be running for president again.
Speaker 13 (18:02):
When are they going to see a woman in charge
in the White House in their lifetime for sure?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Could it be you?
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Possibly?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Have you made a decision yet?
Speaker 11 (18:12):
No, I have not.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
But you say in your book I'm not done. That
is correct.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
I am not done.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I have lived my entire career a.
Speaker 13 (18:21):
Life of service, and it's in my bones, and there
are many ways to serve. I've not decided yet what
I will do in the future beyond what I am
doing right now.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
That should scare every Democrat. I don't think she's electable
my own opinion, no surprise. Gavin Newsom United Socialists Utopia
of California. He was on the All the Smoke podcasts.
We heard of All the Smoke podcasts. I didn't hear
that one, but anyway, said, Republicans are putting America to
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a pre nineteen sixties world that anti woke, is anti black.
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
They're literally putting American reverse, I mean quite literally to
a pre nineteen sixties world. You got the Supreme Court
talking about getting rid of the Voting Rights Act, and
that's very real. That may likely happen in just a
matter of months. I mean, they're rewriting history, censory historical facts,
it's a unbelievable moment. All this anti woke stuff is
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just anti black period, full stop. All the crtesg DEI stuff,
that's all this is. It's this great purge and it's
happening in real time. And I'm just I'm sitting here
and I feel like, you know, luckily i'm governor, but
like we're not doing enough. We're not calling this out,
We're not drawing a line here.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And he goes on to describe raising himself and hustling
to pay bills when he had a very privileged upbringing,
which is kind of laughable. He blasts trump ice raids
and says it calls it terror on the streets of America,
and then he admitted the it's not exactly a secret
(20:09):
that he himself has presidential ambitions and admits finally for
the first time, here's what he said.
Speaker 14 (20:17):
ELMREI say after the twenty twenty six midterms, you're going
to give it serious thought.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, I'd be lying.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Otherwise I'd just be lying, and I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Governor.
Speaker 14 (20:29):
You have long said that if you ever run for
the White House, you need a compelling why a reason
are you moving closer to figuring out your own why
and your own decision.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Yeah, and he's just said to you compelling why you
can endure anyhow, And so I don't think. I think
the biggest challenge for anyone who runs for any office
is people see right through you. If you don't have that,
why you're doing it for the wrong reasons. And so look, well,
will that face will determine.
Speaker 14 (20:58):
That you certainly seem to like on the ground in
South Carolina? I have to say that, Senior Uplos, you
were having a good time.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I happen to and thank god, I'm in the right business.
I love people, actually love people.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh love people. That's why he's running. All right.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
This will be the question America will need to answer.
Do you want the United States to be California? Do
you want the highest income taxes in the country, Because
that's what he's instituted, and that's what the current state
of California is. Poverty rate highest in the nation, schools
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mostly the worst in the entire country, highest sales taxes,
highest gas taxes, more money for illegals than any other
single state, sanctuary state, and city policies galore. Does he
think that that will help him win a general election.
May help him in a primary, but will it help
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him win a general election. We'll start getting serious about
this when the time matters, but right now is not
the right time. All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Andrew is in the great state of Tennessee. Andrew, how
are you glad you called Happy Monday? If there is
such a thing.
Speaker 12 (22:13):
Hey, quick, idea for your listeners out there. Regarding the
ice trackers that the Democrats are trying to put together,
a really easy way to defeat that is, we need
to just fill it with garbage reports. So across the
country the ice tracker happens, just start reporting stuff. It'll
make it unusable. Another way that that could be done
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faster if someone out there has the skills to code
it up. You know, you could have it automated and
just have it filent reports all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Oh, I actually think that's something probably ICE should be
doing itself if they have to the fact that this
is even allowed, I mean, think of what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
What Democrats are supporting.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
They are supporting removing the element of surprise, which then
does what what happened in that moment? That means they
they're basically putting a target on the backs and the
foreheads of ICE agents and making their job more dangerous
and more difficult. And anybody that supports this, as far
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as I'm concerned, if and when something happens to these
ICE agents, and I pray to God it doesn't, but
they're they're exponentially, in my opinion, they are increasing the
odds that somebody is going to get either seriously hurt
or killed. And this is a very dangerous practice. And
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if that's not aiding and a betting law breaking, I
don't know what is. And they're institutionalizing it. Yeah, you know,
so we'll see what happens. Andrew, good call, appreciate it.
Let's go to Wisconsin. Mike next on the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
What's up, Mike, Hey, Shah, pleasure to get to talk
to you today. I've got a question. I wish I
could have gotten it to you before Jim Jordan got away.
Speaker 10 (23:58):
But what's up.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I've got a complain. Both Republicans and the Democrats have
blown it with this shutdown because they have not passed
a budget. If they would have passed the budget, we
would be in the twenty seventh day of our new
fiscal year. But they have not passed the budget since
one budget since nineteen sixty seven. That was in nineteen
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ninety six under Bill Clinton, and they blew that one
up by one hundred and two billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay, Explain to me how again, unless you nuke the filibuster,
Explain to me how Republicans they do have a majority,
but they don't have that magic number sixty. How do
Republicans get to that number. They would need democratic they
would need democratic support. They're not going to get it
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in this part hyper partisan environment we live in.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
So I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I'd prefer to return to regular order, but it's under
the current rules it's impossible.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
The budgeting process should where if they don't come up
with a budget as they are required constitutionally required to do,
they stay in Congress until they get a budget done.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Okay, but you could stay there till the cows come home.
Do you really think that, under Chucky Schumer and these
radical Democrats, that the Senate is going to ultimately approve
any budget Republicans put forward.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I doubt it.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, Well, I'm picking on Congress as a holes for
the last sixty years.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Okay, I'm granted the system's atrocious. Granted they should they
should return to regular order. Granted they should be passing
their budgets on time, and they're not. And the systems
designed that they can't get it done, especially in the.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Environment we're living in. I wish I want the same
thing you do.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, I wish we could get the media. I think
yourself and everybody else in the media needs to hold
them accountable and put their feet to the fire about.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
There's nothing I can do or say that's going to
convince a single Democrat besides John.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Betterman to do the right thing correct.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Nothing, There's no, there's no there's no rational discussion with
these people. They've lost their their minds, yes they have.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
But if all the voters, if we put the subject
out there enough where both sides get a hold of it,
where Democrats start holding their own leaders accountable, then maybe
something will get done.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, then why wouldn't they go along with a clean
cr which Chuck Schumer has supported his entire you know,
political career, but now was giving into the radical left
in his party.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Again, he's trying to blame it on the Republicans, and
the Republicans are pointing their fingers chuck as they should be.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
But yeah, I mean, look, I get it now. Look
we have a lot of news on this, and I
went through it earlier, and I can just tell you
the Schumer shut down. You know, I don't see there's
going to be an end in sight, and I don't.
I'll tell you why. For a lot of different reasons.
Democrats have said that it's there. They know, they know
it's going to impact and hurt poor people, but they're
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doing it anyway because they hate Trump and they don't
want to give up their quote leverage. And the Democratic
Party is in this doom, a spiral and loop if
you will, and they're on the losing side.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Even for example, their argument about healthcare, it's based on lies.
If you strip away the lies about Obamacare subsidies that
are going to expire this year, Democrats' main excuse for
shutting down the government. What they're not telling you is
that the Obamacare subsidies are already sending premium soaring and
expected to rise one six hundred and sixty five dollars,
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or twenty percent on average, according to a Paragon Health
Institute study. If you have the subsidies that only amounts
for four percent of that money. That's it, and Democrats
are lying when they say that. But Democrats, you know,
they're now demanding the subsidy. They're demanding one point five
(27:56):
trillion dollars the only you know, right now you have
two Democrats that Fetterman and one other one that have said,
you know, they're losing, you know, Jake Tapper, fake Jake
even asking Chris Murphy if he's willing to let Americans
go hungry. Why they're using you know, we played it
last week. Theres one congresswoman saying, well, that's our only
(28:17):
leverage point Hakeem Jefferies dismissing leverage. Talk is food security.
You know, SNAP programs and SNAP benefits may be halted
because of this, and the Agriculture Department posted a stunning
notice that these these subsidies are ending. The world's largest
federal workers union just demanded Chuck Schumer and Democrats reopen
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the government. They're the ones keeping it closed. The American
Federation of Government Employees President, it's time to pass the
clean cr and end the shutdown.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
But they're not doing it anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
We'll see what happens appreciate the call, my friend, quick
break right back. We'll get two more of your calls
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All right, back to our busy phones. Eight hundred and
ninety four one, Shawn is our number. Mike in Canada, I.
Speaker 10 (29:52):
Wanted to discuss the Ontario provincial ad that's been run
on USTv that I know that you've seen relating to
you Ronald reagae in his stance on trade, and.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I did, and President Trump got a little pissed off
about it because it's out of context with where we
are today.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
But what's your point, okay?
Speaker 10 (30:09):
Well, the issue that he described when he went online
late at night to tireraide and say that the ad
was fake, there's nothing sake to that ad. The Ronald
Reagan speech in nineteen eighty seven, Ran, I don't know
between five and six minutes. I watched it on YouTube
and the gist of what Reagan was trying to teut
at that time had nothing to do with protectionism. He
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was embracing free trade, he was embracing capitalism. He was
embracing the idea that everybody wins. You can increase the
amount of you know, commerce, said you conduct as opposed
to putting limits on it. Protectionism kills jobs.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
He raised me, I hate to tell.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You, with all due respect to our friends in Canada,
and I think we should be best friends. I like
our friends in Canada. I'm glad you got rid of
little Justin, but you could still do a little better.
We're putting all that aside. Canada put massive tariffs on
American farmers, American dairy products, on a lot of American
meat and poultry and cheese and dairy and milk. You
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guys put that on us, and it's been on us
for a long time. So if we were going to
be honest about it, you started this fight. Now somebody
is in office that's fighting back, and you guys don't
like it. Get your own government to embrace what you're
demanding that we embrace, and that's free and fair trade,
and you'll have a much better time insist.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
That obviously that the people conduct themselves a little bit
of dignity here to go.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, but you're not acknowledging your country started this trade war.
Canada started it, not the US.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
Nineteen eighty seven, we approached the United States at the time,
Brian wrote, mulroney approached Ronald Reagan about the concept debate.
Can we find a way to.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The last fifteen or twenty years? Ryan Moroney was great,
maybe one of your best prime ministers ever. I loved him,
I knew him. Okay, God rest his soul. He was
a great guy. But you know what, take a look
at Canada's policies towards the US over these years and
how much how much you put on us.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I got a roll though. Thank you for being with us.
Our two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred and ninety four
one shawns on number if you want to be a
part of the program Big News last week. John Brennan,
This is an ex post by Congressman Jim Jordan, the
House Judiciary Committee Chair. John Brennan lied to Congress today.
We referred him to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution,
(00:25):
and then he linked a letter that he sent to
the Attorney General, Pam Bondy. We write to refer significant
evidence that the former Director of the CIA, John Brennan,
knowingly made false statements during his transcribed interview before the
Committee of the Judiciary on May eleven, twenty twenty three.
While testifying, Brennan made numerous willfully and intentionally false statements
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of material fact contradicted by the record established by the
House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the CIA. Under
eight USC. One thousand and one, A witness commits a
crime if he knowingly willfully makes a materially false statement
of representation with respect to any investigation or review conducted
(01:14):
pursuing to the authority of any Committee of Congress. And
he goes on to explain a lot of the details.
For example, let me go back in time. We'll start
in twenty seventeen. Now, if you recall, in twenty sixteen,
the dirty Russian disinformation dossier was used as the basis
of the first visa application warrant. It was unverified and
(01:38):
we all know unverify a bull and completely debunked by
December of that year, twenty sixteen. Here's Brennan in twenty
seventeen saying that the dossier wasn't used as the basis
for any intelligence community assessment.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Here's what he said in a house hearing that took place.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Do you know if the Bureau who ever, relied on
the Steel dossier any as part of any court filings, applications, petitions, pleadings.
I have no awareness did the CIA rely on it?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Because we didn't. It wasn't part of the corpus of
intelligence information that we had. It was not in any
way used as a basis for the intel. It's community
assessment that was done. It was it was not.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, let's move forward to twenty eighteen. This is a
clip of John Brennan saying he was concerned about the
veracity of the Steele dossier, but the FBI had an
obligation to seek out the truth on it. Here's what
he said on Meet the Press with then hosts since departed,
Chucky Todd, how.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
Was the steel Dosia treated it? How did you treat it?
You said you looked at it in December. I assume
it's been looked at by It was obviously looked at
by the FBI. We've now learned they've tried to confirm
some of it and have had some success.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Not yet.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
They don't say it's they don't say it's unconfirmed.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But that's about it.
Speaker 8 (03:06):
Well, there were things in that Dosier that made me
wonder whether or not they would they were in fact
accurate and true, and I do think it was up
to the FBI to see whether or not they could
verify any of it. I think Jim Comi has said
that it was contained salacious and unverified information.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Just because it was unverified didn't mean it wasn't true.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
And if the Russians were involved in something like that
directed against individuals who are aspiring to the highest office
in this land, there was an obligational part of the
FBI to seek out the truth on it.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Then one more clip again twenty eighteen. This is Brennan
saying the Steele dossier didn't play any role in intelligence
assessments to Obama or Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Here listen to this clip.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
When did you first learn of the so called Steele
dosier and what Christopher Steele was doing?
Speaker 8 (03:55):
Well, it was a not a very well kept secret
among press circles for several months before it came out,
and it was in late summer of twenty sixteen when
there were some individuals from the various US news outlets
who asked me about my familiarity with it, and I
had heard just snippets about it. I did not know
(04:17):
what was in there. I did not see it until
later in that year, I think it was in December,
but I was unaware of the providence of it as
well as what was in it. And it did not
play any role whatsoever in the intelli's community assessments that
was done that was presented to then President Obama and
then President elect Trump.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
If you recall, we now know, thanks to Tulsi Gabberd's
declassifications that in fact, that we had career senior intel
officials look into the whole question of any Trump Russia
collusion and senior career intelligence officials assessed there was none,
and that was presented, and according to the declassification, it
(04:58):
was Obama himself, working with Clapper and Brennan and other people,
that demanded a new intelligence assessment that ended up concluding
the exact opposite, and that part of that conclusion was
based on the dossier. Jim Jordan, House Judiciary Committee Chair,
True or false?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
No?
Speaker 9 (05:17):
True. As I said last week, Sean, you're not supposed
to lie, but you're definitely not supposed to lie when
you're under oath and you're talking to Congress. And that's
exactly what it looks like mister Brendon did, because he
repeated those statements that you played when he was in
front of us last Congress. He said the dossier played
no part in the intelligence community assessment, and I pushed
to not have it in the intelligence community assessment. The
(05:38):
only problem is, as you pointed out, is when Director
National Intelligence Tulsey Gabbert declassified the House Intelligence Committee report
from a few years ago, it said just the opposite.
In fact, it related a story in there Sean where
another CI official actually confronted mister Brennan and said, this
dossier doesn't hold up. There's no underlying intelligence to support it,
(05:59):
shouldn't put it in the intelligence community assessment that we
take to President Trump and brief well, then President Electromp
shouldn't do that. But Brennan response responded by saying, yeah,
but doesn't it ring true? And I think just showing
his entire motive his mindset, which was to go get
President Trump. And then that's exactly what they did. Is
we've talked about many times. They then went up to
(06:20):
Trump Tower on January sixth, twenty seventeen, when it was
President Electromp gave him is what he thinks his defensive briefing,
his intelligence briefing that you get before you become president.
And in fact, what they were trying to do is
set him up and create the predicate for the whole
Muller investigation and how they were going to try to
sabotage his entire first term.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
But the reality too is is a true or false
that in August of twenty sixteen that Bruce or had
warned everybody that the dossier's political in nature and nobody
should trust it.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Wasn't Brennan aware of it then?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And number two didn't Brennan himself how to have a
meeting in the White House informing Obama that Hillary Clinton's
campaign was building up a narrative about Donald Trump and
Russia as part of a political scheme.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
Yes, exactly right. And they had this meeting also in
December of sixteen, again between election day and Inauguration Day,
where they decided to do the new IC assessment, the
new Intelligence Community Assessment, the new report. And that's the
one that they put the dossier in. For goodness sake,
because they go up to Temp Tower and briefing about it.
(07:29):
Colemy does it himself. So yeah, this all played out
as part of this effort. And again I think the
motive is clearly displayed in this the facts that Tulci
brought forward when she declassified this report, where you have
this person saying to Brennan, we shouldn't use this dossi
at all. But his response is, yeah, but doesn't it
ring true. They wanted to believe it. They wanted to
(07:51):
believe this garbage document was true. And you're right, Schehn.
Remember it was the Clinton campaign, through the law firm,
who then hired the public relationship.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The law firms Perkins Cooey.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Perkins Cooey then funnels the money to an OP research firm,
Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS then hires Christopher Steele, former MI
six agent.
Speaker 9 (08:11):
Correct exactly, a foreigner who writes down all this garbage
that they used in the ICA. And maybe more importantly,
when Trey Gowdy the first clip you played was asking
mister Brinnan the questions he said, did you ever rely
on this in the court filings? Treys? I think getting
at this idea. They used the doc date to help
get defy the warrants, this file and president Toomp's campaign.
Speaker 10 (08:33):
So this is what we put.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Well, we know that first PIZE application went in and
the bulk of information was before the election in October
of twenty sixteen, and James call me signed not only
that one, but the two succeeding ones and there were
four total.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
Yep, exactly right. So there's a pattern here. We think
he lied to when he was under oath, when in
an open hearing, when Trey was asking questions. We think
he also wasn't square with us when we deposed him
last Congress. And then, of course here's the big irony.
We were asking these questions last Congress. The context was
we had brought mister Brennan in to talk to him
(09:09):
about another lie, which was the fifty one former Intel
officials who told us in that letter before the twenty
twenty election that the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian
information operation, when the FBI had to stink in laptop
and they knew that was garbage. So it's this pattern
we see from Brennan where he doesn't seem to be
square with us in Congress or with the American people.
(09:31):
And that's why we sent the referral, and I put
it out last week on your show, Sean that I
don't do this very often. The facts have to be there.
I mean, it has to be clear to me and
to our committee that this guy wasn't square with us,
that this guy was lying to us, and he was
under open an obligation to tell the truth. Then and
only then do we send these referrals to the Justice Department.
But we think it's certainly worth to hear, and that's
(09:51):
why we sent it. It all began in twenty sixteen
with the Dottier and this whole Russia collusion issue was
designed to help Clinton win the election. And then, of
course when they do the fifty one former intels and
tell the country that piece of garbage lie that was
designed to help help Biden win the election. So and then,
as you say, the lawfair was the course to try
to keep President Trump from getting back in office. So
(10:13):
it was always political. But then what happened back in
sixteen between again election day and inauguration day is they said, Wow,
we didn't stop him. He won the race. Now let's
use the dossier. Now let's lose the use the Russian
hoax as a way to undermine President Trump. The question
that you ask, I think is the central question. This
is a call for the Justice Department. Was there a conspiracy?
(10:35):
Can they prove there was a conspiracy to stop him
from winning and then undermine his first term and then
prevent him from winning re election? Can you can you
just prove all that? That's the question for Attorney General
bond the Deputy Attorney General Blanche and the team at
the Justice Department. What we know is what we've referred
John Brennan.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Well were a conservative attorney Mike Davis an informal advisor.
According to reports of the Attorney General, Pam Bondi is
claiming now that this grand jury will consider whether to
bring criminal charges against top Democratic figures that he claims
have colluded over the last decade to impede Trump, starting
(11:13):
with this dirty Russian disinformation dossier, and he is taking
it all the way through the pre bunking of the
very real Hunter Biden laptop. They knew it was going
to be dropped because they knew that Rudy Giuliani's then attorney,
Bob Costello, had a copy of it. They had verified
its authenticity. In March of twenty twenty, they were meeting
(11:34):
weekly with big tech court companies, warning them that maybe
victims of a Russian disinformation campaign in twenty twenty, knowing
that the laptop was real, and then when it finally
came out in the New York Post, they wouldn't tell
those companies is this true or not true, ultimately resulting
in the suppression of that information prior to an election
(11:55):
that I think would have had a great impact on it,
and then lawf air and weaponization from twenty twenty to
twenty twenty four to make Trump unelectable, you know, in
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (12:07):
Yeah, no, Look, I think I think you've described it
exactly what it is. I saw Mike Davis's report from
what he had said. I think over the weekend, we'll
just have to see that this is again, this is
a call for the Attorney General if they think the
facts are there and there are a lot of good
facts that you just pointed out, and the facts that
we've discovered in our committee and we've begain referred to
(12:29):
refer them to the Justice Department. We'll just have to see.
But I think it's a compelling case. They were certainly
out to get President Trump for the last nine years.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
All right, quick break right back more with Congressman Jim Jordan,
chairman of the powerful House Judiciary Committee in Congress. Will continue.
We'll get to your calls on the other side today.
Give us a call eight hundred and nine to one,
Sean if you want to be a part of this
program as we continue.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Entered daining Americans, Go, didn go.
Speaker 11 (13:01):
Sean Hannity is on it down.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
How do we continue now?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Jim Jordan, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Let me
ask this question, how did Camy get off the hook?
I guess the statute of limitations have run out unless
there's a grand conspiracy charge.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But call mey.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know signed three of the four PISA warrants. That's
a nine month period of time. My understanding is Christopher
Steele was kind of booted in December of twenty sixteen
because they realized that the dossier was was garbed badge
and bar talk, and so he was out, but call
me kept still kept using it for two more PISO
(14:08):
applications and then a third one side by Rob Rosenstein
at the time. The fourth one and are they not
by law supposed to go to the court and say
that the information provided to them to acquire the the
PISA app PISO warrant, uh, that false information was given
to the court and then give the court a chance
to you know, rescind that.
Speaker 9 (14:28):
Yeah, they are, they're they're supposed to sign and sign on,
sign on and say this is accurate information. The only
one who got in trouble was the guy who actually
changed information. He changed the contents of an email. Is
Kevin's clientsmith. But he basically got a slap on the wrist.
Remember during the when this when we all start to
figure this out, and it was you and it was
some of us in Congress and a handful of people
started to dig into this. It took us a while
(14:51):
to get all the facts and get get everything figured out,
and by the time we did, then you then you
you get into the Biden administration because of you know,
the if you want to Intel letter and everything else
and what happened in that campaign, and of course the
Garland Justice Department and the Biden administration aren't going to
prosecute anyone. And so now here we are eight years later,
and we have an attorney general, we have an administration
(15:13):
who's saying we're going to hold people accountable who did
things wrong. Now the left says we're engaging in the
very law fair they engaged, and that's it's not true.
We're trying to hold people accountable. So this kind of
garbage doesn't happen in the future. So we will just
have to see. But the reason Komi wasn't held accountable
center is it because of the Garland ray. The Garland
Justice Department.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
In the ray at Heugh was protected and the statute
of limitations ran out unless there's a grand conspiracy charge
exactly exactly.
Speaker 9 (15:38):
Now with Brennan, there's the statute of limitations on him
lying eighteen USC.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
One thousand and one.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
Lying to Congress has not run out because he just
testified in front of us two years ago, so that's
a five year statute of limitation. So there's certainly that charge.
But will that be part of a bigger, broader conspiracy charge.
That's up to the Attorney General.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
All right, he is the chairman of the very important
House Judiciary Committee. Chairman Jim Jordan is with us. We'll
stay focused.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And dialed in.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I spent too many years of my life unpeeling every
layer of that onion with a small ensemble cast you included.
Thank you, We appreciate your time. Jim Jordan, Thank you, sir,
Thank you.
Speaker 12 (16:15):
All Right.
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up in the off year elections, and we'll have an
announcement tonight about these off year elections on Hannity on
the Fox News channel that you're going to want to
tune into.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Let's put it this way.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We will be on the road this week and hopefully
many of you might be able to join us. I'll
tell you and announce it tonight. Kamala Harris suggesting this
weekend she be running for president again.
Speaker 13 (18:02):
When are they going to see a woman in charge
in the White House in their lifetime for sure?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Could it be you?
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Possibly?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Have you made a decision yet?
Speaker 11 (18:12):
No, I have not.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
But you say in your book I'm not done. That
is correct.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
I am not done.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I have lived my entire career a.
Speaker 13 (18:21):
Life of service, and it's in my bones, and there
are many ways to serve. I've not decided yet what
I will do in the future beyond what I am
doing right now.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
That should scare every Democrat. I don't think she's electable
my own opinion, no surprise. Gavin Newsom United Socialists Utopia
of California. He was on the All the Smoke podcasts.
We heard of All the Smoke podcasts. I didn't hear
that one, but anyway, said, Republicans are putting America to
(18:56):
a pre nineteen sixties world that anti woke, is anti black.
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
They're literally putting American reverse, I mean quite literally to
a pre nineteen sixties world. You got the Supreme Court
talking about getting rid of the Voting Rights Act, and
that's very real. That may likely happen in just a
matter of months. I mean, they're rewriting history, censory historical facts,
it's a unbelievable moment. All this anti woke stuff is
(19:27):
just anti black period, full stop. All the crtesg DEI stuff,
that's all this is. It's this great purge and it's
happening in real time. And I'm just I'm sitting here
and I feel like, you know, luckily i'm governor, but
like we're not doing enough. We're not calling this out,
We're not drawing a line here.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And he goes on to describe raising himself and hustling
to pay bills when he had a very privileged upbringing,
which is kind of laughable. He blasts trump ice raids
and says it calls it terror on the streets of America,
and then he admitted the it's not exactly a secret
(20:09):
that he himself has presidential ambitions and admits finally for
the first time, here's what he said.
Speaker 14 (20:17):
ELMREI say after the twenty twenty six midterms, you're going
to give it serious thought.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, I'd be lying.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Otherwise I'd just be lying, and I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Governor.
Speaker 14 (20:29):
You have long said that if you ever run for
the White House, you need a compelling why a reason
are you moving closer to figuring out your own why
and your own decision.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Yeah, and he's just said to you compelling why you
can endure anyhow, And so I don't think. I think
the biggest challenge for anyone who runs for any office
is people see right through you. If you don't have that,
why you're doing it for the wrong reasons. And so look, well,
will that face will determine.
Speaker 14 (20:58):
That you certainly seem to like on the ground in
South Carolina? I have to say that, Senior Uplos, you
were having a good time.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I happen to and thank god, I'm in the right business.
I love people, actually love people.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh love people. That's why he's running. All right.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
This will be the question America will need to answer.
Do you want the United States to be California? Do
you want the highest income taxes in the country, Because
that's what he's instituted, and that's what the current state
of California is. Poverty rate highest in the nation, schools
(21:34):
mostly the worst in the entire country, highest sales taxes,
highest gas taxes, more money for illegals than any other
single state, sanctuary state, and city policies galore. Does he
think that that will help him win a general election.
May help him in a primary, but will it help
(21:56):
him win a general election. We'll start getting serious about
this when the time matters, but right now is not
the right time. All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Andrew is in the great state of Tennessee. Andrew, how
are you glad you called Happy Monday? If there is
such a thing.
Speaker 12 (22:13):
Hey, quick, idea for your listeners out there. Regarding the
ice trackers that the Democrats are trying to put together,
a really easy way to defeat that is, we need
to just fill it with garbage reports. So across the
country the ice tracker happens, just start reporting stuff. It'll
make it unusable. Another way that that could be done
(22:33):
faster if someone out there has the skills to code
it up. You know, you could have it automated and
just have it filent reports all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Oh, I actually think that's something probably ICE should be
doing itself if they have to the fact that this
is even allowed, I mean, think of what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
What Democrats are supporting.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
They are supporting removing the element of surprise, which then
does what what happened in that moment? That means they
they're basically putting a target on the backs and the
foreheads of ICE agents and making their job more dangerous
and more difficult. And anybody that supports this, as far
(23:14):
as I'm concerned, if and when something happens to these
ICE agents, and I pray to God it doesn't, but
they're they're exponentially, in my opinion, they are increasing the
odds that somebody is going to get either seriously hurt
or killed. And this is a very dangerous practice. And
(23:34):
if that's not aiding and a betting law breaking, I
don't know what is. And they're institutionalizing it. Yeah, you know,
so we'll see what happens. Andrew, good call, appreciate it.
Let's go to Wisconsin. Mike next on the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
What's up, Mike, Hey, Shah, pleasure to get to talk
to you today. I've got a question. I wish I
could have gotten it to you before Jim Jordan got away.
Speaker 10 (23:58):
But what's up.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I've got a complain. Both Republicans and the Democrats have
blown it with this shutdown because they have not passed
a budget. If they would have passed the budget, we
would be in the twenty seventh day of our new
fiscal year. But they have not passed the budget since
one budget since nineteen sixty seven. That was in nineteen
(24:21):
ninety six under Bill Clinton, and they blew that one
up by one hundred and two billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay, Explain to me how again, unless you nuke the filibuster,
Explain to me how Republicans they do have a majority,
but they don't have that magic number sixty. How do
Republicans get to that number. They would need democratic they
would need democratic support. They're not going to get it
(24:47):
in this part hyper partisan environment we live in.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
So I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I'd prefer to return to regular order, but it's under
the current rules it's impossible.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
The budgeting process should where if they don't come up
with a budget as they are required constitutionally required to do,
they stay in Congress until they get a budget done.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Okay, but you could stay there till the cows come home.
Do you really think that, under Chucky Schumer and these
radical Democrats, that the Senate is going to ultimately approve
any budget Republicans put forward.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I doubt it.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, Well, I'm picking on Congress as a holes for
the last sixty years.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Okay, I'm granted the system's atrocious. Granted they should they
should return to regular order. Granted they should be passing
their budgets on time, and they're not. And the systems
designed that they can't get it done, especially in the.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Environment we're living in. I wish I want the same
thing you do.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, I wish we could get the media. I think
yourself and everybody else in the media needs to hold
them accountable and put their feet to the fire about.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
There's nothing I can do or say that's going to
convince a single Democrat besides John.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Betterman to do the right thing correct.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Nothing, There's no, there's no there's no rational discussion with
these people. They've lost their their minds, yes they have.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
But if all the voters, if we put the subject
out there enough where both sides get a hold of it,
where Democrats start holding their own leaders accountable, then maybe
something will get done.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, then why wouldn't they go along with a clean
cr which Chuck Schumer has supported his entire you know,
political career, but now was giving into the radical left
in his party.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Again, he's trying to blame it on the Republicans, and
the Republicans are pointing their fingers chuck as they should be.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
But yeah, I mean, look, I get it now. Look
we have a lot of news on this, and I
went through it earlier, and I can just tell you
the Schumer shut down. You know, I don't see there's
going to be an end in sight, and I don't.
I'll tell you why. For a lot of different reasons.
Democrats have said that it's there. They know, they know
it's going to impact and hurt poor people, but they're
(26:58):
doing it anyway because they hate Trump and they don't
want to give up their quote leverage. And the Democratic
Party is in this doom, a spiral and loop if
you will, and they're on the losing side.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Even for example, their argument about healthcare, it's based on lies.
If you strip away the lies about Obamacare subsidies that
are going to expire this year, Democrats' main excuse for
shutting down the government. What they're not telling you is
that the Obamacare subsidies are already sending premium soaring and
expected to rise one six hundred and sixty five dollars,
(27:35):
or twenty percent on average, according to a Paragon Health
Institute study. If you have the subsidies that only amounts
for four percent of that money. That's it, and Democrats
are lying when they say that. But Democrats, you know,
they're now demanding the subsidy. They're demanding one point five
(27:56):
trillion dollars the only you know, right now you have
two Democrats that Fetterman and one other one that have said,
you know, they're losing, you know, Jake Tapper, fake Jake
even asking Chris Murphy if he's willing to let Americans
go hungry. Why they're using you know, we played it
last week. Theres one congresswoman saying, well, that's our only
(28:17):
leverage point Hakeem Jefferies dismissing leverage. Talk is food security.
You know, SNAP programs and SNAP benefits may be halted
because of this, and the Agriculture Department posted a stunning
notice that these these subsidies are ending. The world's largest
federal workers union just demanded Chuck Schumer and Democrats reopen
(28:39):
the government. They're the ones keeping it closed. The American
Federation of Government Employees President, it's time to pass the
clean cr and end the shutdown.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
But they're not doing it anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
We'll see what happens appreciate the call, my friend, quick
break right back. We'll get two more of your calls
coming up here. Eight hundred and nine to four one, Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program
as we roll along this month, day the left wants
to silence Hannity, don't let it happen.
Speaker 11 (29:09):
Make the commitment now.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Three hours every day at three pm.
Speaker 11 (29:15):
This is the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
All right, back to our busy phones. Eight hundred and
ninety four one, Shawn is our number. Mike in Canada, I.
Speaker 10 (29:52):
Wanted to discuss the Ontario provincial ad that's been run
on USTv that I know that you've seen relating to
you Ronald reagae in his stance on trade, and.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I did, and President Trump got a little pissed off
about it because it's out of context with where we
are today.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
But what's your point, okay?
Speaker 10 (30:09):
Well, the issue that he described when he went online
late at night to tireraide and say that the ad
was fake, there's nothing sake to that ad. The Ronald
Reagan speech in nineteen eighty seven, Ran, I don't know
between five and six minutes. I watched it on YouTube
and the gist of what Reagan was trying to teut
at that time had nothing to do with protectionism. He
(30:31):
was embracing free trade, he was embracing capitalism. He was
embracing the idea that everybody wins. You can increase the
amount of you know, commerce, said you conduct as opposed
to putting limits on it. Protectionism kills jobs.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
He raised me, I hate to tell.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You, with all due respect to our friends in Canada,
and I think we should be best friends. I like
our friends in Canada. I'm glad you got rid of
little Justin, but you could still do a little better.
We're putting all that aside. Canada put massive tariffs on
American farmers, American dairy products, on a lot of American
meat and poultry and cheese and dairy and milk. You
(31:13):
guys put that on us, and it's been on us
for a long time. So if we were going to
be honest about it, you started this fight. Now somebody
is in office that's fighting back, and you guys don't
like it. Get your own government to embrace what you're
demanding that we embrace, and that's free and fair trade,
and you'll have a much better time insist.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
That obviously that the people conduct themselves a little bit
of dignity here to go.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, but you're not acknowledging your country started this trade war.
Canada started it, not the US.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
Nineteen eighty seven, we approached the United States at the time,
Brian wrote, mulroney approached Ronald Reagan about the concept debate.
Can we find a way to.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The last fifteen or twenty years? Ryan Moroney was great,
maybe one of your best prime ministers ever. I loved him,
I knew him. Okay, God rest his soul. He was
a great guy. But you know what, take a look
at Canada's policies towards the US over these years and
how much how much you put on us.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I got a roll though. Thank you for being with us.
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