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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, this is Jeffrey Lord filling in for our
friend Sean Hannity. And our phone number here is eight
hundred ninety four one seven three two six or eight
hundred ninety four to one Sean. So let's, uh, let's
spend a little time on the phones here. And what
I see up here is our friend Claire from Florida.
(00:23):
And Claire, why don't you tell us a little bit
about why you called?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Okay, Well, I'm a lifetime Republican and I could rattle
off all the names to prove that, but so I
am a Republican.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I think that Biden pardoning Hunter was the right thing
to do as a father. That's his responsibility. If Biden
had not pardoned Hunter, he would be castigated about it
for the rest of his life. Now. I hope people
will call in and discuss that with you. But that's
my opinion. I'm not improving. I don't approve of Biden,
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but I approve of pardoning his son because he is
the father.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, you know, you might it might surprise you, Claire,
but I tend to agree with you on that. I
just think that I think there's so much more and
I think we will find out as we move away
from the Biden era that memoirs will come out and
investigative reports will come out. I think we will learn
a lot that is not very favorable to the Biden family,
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or as they've been mimicked, to the Biden crime family.
I think that is important to get to. But I
think in this situation and remembering in terms of family history,
I was not to date myself, but I was in
college when Joe Biden was elected to the United States Senator.
He was twenty nine years old, soon to turn the
required age of thirty, and this to be elected a
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United States Senator was a big deal. And within a
matter of weeks after that, there was a car accident
that killed his wife and little girl, and I think
injured Hunter and brother bo and I suspect. And then then,
of course, a number of years later, Bo draw passes
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away from cancer. I think, if you're the father in
that situation, that's enough, and you wanted Hunter has I
think unquestionably made a mess of things. That's his problem.
He'll have to He'll have the rest of his life
to get his acting gear. But I do think that
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I don't think that Joe Biden could have done or
would have done anything else, and so you know, on
we go and I and I think just in terms
of the bidens in general, I think now the time
is here to move on, to move forward. And having
studied presidents enough from you know, George Washington on and
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having worked for a president, I worked for President Reagan,
what happens is the men their successor is elected. It's
kind of it sounds kind of harsh, but wow, people
just turn their attention from that person who had been
president and turn it to who the new guy is.
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So I think that process has already started. I think
you saw it at the international level, as I was
saying earlier when President Trump President elect Trump went to
France to celebrate the Notre Dame source. So okay, Claire, well, Claire,
thank you very much. I think that was a good
thing to get cleared up here. I need to turn now,
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want to turn now to my old friend mattch Slap
of the American Conservative Union. Hello there, Matthew, how are
you hey?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Jeffrey, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Hanukkah and all the rest. Yeah,
I think it's great, Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It is.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Indeed, it is indeed, and I was sort of wondering,
what's your take now that you know twenty twenty four
is behind us, twenty twenty five is beginning to take shape. Matt,
for those who are unaware, is also the head along
with wife Mercy. And by the way, Matt, something some
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little bird told me there was something going on with
missus Schlapp today. I don't know what that might be.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
She got a little bit older today, just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Uh oh, that means she's finally eighteen. Well, that's that's good.
That's good. Well, I think that you know, Sea Pack
and the Conservative Union and all this, we have our
work cut out for us, and it's going to be
very interesting to see as we move into twenty twenty
five and presumably the next four years. What's your take
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on what lies ahead for us?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Well, first of all, I have to say DETI thinks
and gratitude to you, Jeffrey, because you saw what was
going on in the country. You were a Reagan guy.
I was a push guy, and you saw what was
going on with Donald Trump and you were with him
early and you stuck by him. I'm very proud of
SEAPAC no matter what happened. We stuck by Trump. We
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put him on our stage in Orlando, Florida when they
closed this down in Washington, DC. Yes, and we put
Donald Trump on the stage about fifty days after January sixth,
and you know, caused the controversy at the board. Some
of our people said, you can't invite Donald Trump after
j six and I said, no way, He's going to
be on our stage. He's our president. And you guys
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have J six all wrong. And so now we're to
today after all of that, and all I can say is,
I don't know if there's a more important year than
twenty twenty five, and probably I don't know the last
eighty years. This is a big one.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yes, I think that's absolutely right. I think it's absolutely right.
There's all kinds of things that can gonna happen here.
And I'm led to believe that Mercedes is on the line.
Is that true?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Do we have mercy?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I hope they're telling me that she just vanished. Don't
you love twenty first century technology?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Man, end the phone over to her when you're ready
for her. Here's my take on this year.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
We've got this first year of her presidency is awfully important.
It's critical we have these small majorities in the House
and Senate, and and for those of us who are
insiders and know too much, it's easy to get discouraged.
But for everyone else who's just rooting Trump on, I
think the key is is we got to keep these
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congressional Republicans, the Senate Republicans on the Trump train. They
got to get a plan on this budget. I read
lots of theories and talk to a lot of people
that have different theories about what they can do on
the budget. But I'd just want them to get on
the same page on the budget, between Speaker Johnson and
John Food and the President and his team. And my
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advice to them would be keep it simple stupid. Not
that any of them are stupid, but you know, Republicans
have a hard time sticking together, and in this case,
I think if they try for one budget resolution, get
the taxes in there, get all the border stuff you
need in there, at a few other policies that we
all are on board, get one done, and don't be
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too worried about how fast you do it, and then
let's see how much time we have left on the
clock to do a second one.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
One of the things that I remember vividly when I
was starting out my career in Washington, I was working
for Congressman Budd Schuster from Pennsylvania. Oh yeah, legendary, legendary indeed.
And while he was particularly famous for serving as later
as Chair of the House Public Works and Transportation Committee
as was then called, he also served on the House
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Budget Committee and as his legislative director. And I was
assigned to, you know, do the staff work and go
to all these budget committee meetings and read the federal budget, which,
as you know, was thousands of pages and all of
this kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, but you could do it back then. I don't
think you could today.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, I think that's I think that's about right.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
One of the things that I learned which sort of
took me aback, and I have remembered this, oh is
is it wasn't just liberal Democrats on the committee who
were putting stuff in this budget. It was Republicans. And
I thought, oh, my goodness, what you know, what what
is going on here? And you know, all these years later,
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I can see why so many Americans who sort of
caught on to how this works, are making complaints about
the so called uniparty and that kind of thing. What
are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, I will tell you the birthday girl has joined us.
Ah Mercy is here, and I'll give you a quick
answer because I know you're gonna want to talk to her.
But my view is this, which is it's a pox
on both their houses. They are both parties, both major
parties are responsible for outrageous decision making around the budget.
Most Republican presidents haven't helped the matter.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Problem is when Reagan was president and we actually had
budget fights closed down the government or the government was closed,
as you'd say, and then Nuke Ingridge tried to do
the same thing. When we got the majority in the
House for the first time in foury or whatever years,
it was the the and the Republicans over corrected. They thought,
oh my god, we lost the shutdown fight with Bill Clinton,
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We'll never win a budget fight again. We might as
well just join them on the spending front, with our
Republican pork joining the Democratic pork. And it's resulted in
a very precarious financial situation for America, which means the
free world is in a very precarious position, and I
really applaud those Republicans who were saying, look, enough is enough.
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We've got to kind of rein in the spending. And
it's not just the CRS. This is like a little
fraction of the budget. You know, when you were working
on the Hill, that was a big part of the budget.
Now it's a tiny little part because we've put almost
all the government on autopilot with the mandatory spending, which
is kind of a made up title, and we've got
to get into all that spending. You know, I don't
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know if President Trump wants this to be a focus
of his but the fact is we don't have much
time left, and Republicans better starting like the Reagan Republicans.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, Marcy, what are your thoughts on where on where
President Trump goes with all of this that we're coming
along with.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yeah, no, Look, I think it's very important for President
Trump to remain the top. How can I say, spokesperson
leader of talking about these budget fights. I think that
you know, of course Elon and they have an important role.
They're leading the DOGE efforts, but you know, they really
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have never worked in Washington the day and I think
it's important for them to understand that they will have
to work closely with the Office of Management and Budget
and uh and figure out, you know, yes, strip out,
take out all these DEI initiatives throughout all of the government,
figure out where this all this misspending is happening. I mean,
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you're talking about that the Pentagon couldn't even you know,
they failed their audits seven times. You know, there there
needs to be major fixes in the government. With that
being said, Uh, you know, I do think that the
that the American people are expecting tax cuts, they're expecting
tax cuts quickly, and I think that has to be
the top priority in addition to securing the border and
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making sure that if they move forward with this sort
of deportation plan, that it's not going to be come
into a you know, public relations fiasco, but really hone
in on these criminal aliens. So I think that there
that is where the top priority has to be. I
do think that, you know, I've been watching uh, you
know X yesterday and today, and I see the Veke
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commenting about you know, the immigration visas and and and
elon as well, and I'm like, dude, guys, stay out
of immigration, stay in your lane. Focus on cutting the government.
Don't get off message because at the end of the day,
it is President Trump, it is President Trump's agenda, and
we all just have we have to support him to
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make sure that his agenda gets accomplished. And he's going
to have a very short window because as you know this, Jeffrey,
that your political capital, you start losing it after a
year or two, right. Uh, And and he's got to
move quickly.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Just as a matter of curiosity, are Elon and k
are they coming? Have they especially any interest in coming
to Sea pac.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
We have and Eve has been uh, you know, he's
come very regularly last couple of seapacks.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
So when we've actually worked really closely with and uh,
I don't have a relationship with Elon musk As then
Mercy and I had a wonderful conversation with him in
marrow Ago a few weeks ago when we had the
event down there. And we've talked with some of these
people and they say he wants to come, and we
of course love to have him. But you know, our
focus is two things. Number one, what's the best way
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to use ce Pack to push the Trump agenda? And
we'll be right in the middle of the first one
hundred days when SEPAC starts in February and Washington DC,
so like it's almost like the midterms, right, Like, how
are we doing so far? How many cabin secretaries have
been confirmed? Where are we on this agenda? How many
of these day one executive orders are being fought out
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in courtrooms, which I think one hundred percent will sadly, so,
I think we have to use spack to leverage all
the people around the country who are so excited that
Trump won. But the second thing CEPAC has to do, Jeffrey,
is what it's done really well in the last few years.
We've broad in this effort. People say, big ten, I
don't really love that analogy, but we've expanded this coalition.
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We are the first people to invite Tulfa Gabbert, We
were the first people to invite Donald Trump. We were
the first people to invite Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Like
when these new voices popped up on one issue area,
we didn't say, oh, you can't join our club because
you don't agree with us on everything. We said, hey,
why don't you come over to our club. We'd like
to hear your thoughts. And it's a great ride. As
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we expand this coalition, it's less about parties. Now.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, I think that's right, and I think alas we're
running out of time here, but I do think that
the parties have switch positions, if you will. I think
the Republican Party is the party of working class Americans,
working Americans, and I think that's a good thing. That's
a good thing. I think this started with President Reagan,
and President Trump has taken it to the max. So well,
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Matt Mercy, thank you very much. I will make plans
to see you at sea pack and happy birthday.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
There to the missus Mary Christmas.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Merry Christmas, and happy New Year. Right, okay, thank you
very much, and we'll be back. This is Jeffrey Lord
in for Sean Hannity, and if you want to call in,
our number is eight hundred and nine four one seven
three two six. All right, welcome back. This is Jeffrey
Lord filling in for our friend Sean Hannity. Our number
(15:16):
here is eight hundred and nine four one seven three
two six, And let's take a call from John in
North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Hey, Jeffrey, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I'm doing great, and you happy New Year.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
You know, and all the rest, Yes, sir, I'm enjoying
the time off. My comment is I've been following politics
and you know, listen to talk radio for many, many,
many years, and about fifteen years ago I started. I'm
an independent voter. I'm not a member of any party,
but I do vote. I use common sense. I back Trump.
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And what I don't understand is about fifteen years ago
I looked at everything and I said, you know what,
the behavior of these Democrats, they're just like organized crime.
And I felt and it's not meant to be an attack.
It's not meant to, you know, be name calling, except
it it aptly identifies what we're up against. And if
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you if you look at the traits of organized crime
such as tax evasion, which Hunter Biden does, uh or
and you're on people are on the take. We're always
finding and I'm not saying Republicans or you know that
avoid any of this. But the con men, you know,
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the term con men comes from confidence men the people
that can go out and right.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
We fool you.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
So I what I'm saying here is I think the
media commentators that are trying to be as truthfuls as
they can really It's like when Trump got that got
the term fake news to stick. I think we should
try to get the term organized crime to stick whenever
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we're talking about either deep state.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Well, i'll tell you, you know, I don't know whether
the organized crime thing will fit or not, but I
think you're onto something. And I was thinking about this,
and I'm of an age that I remember vividly as
a child. My parents were very active in Republican politics
and Massachusetts, so they were always very interested in what
was going on, and together we watched in January of
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nineteen sixty one, I was in the fourth grade, Hello
President Kennedy being sworn in and giving us inaugural address,
which was very memorable. The phrase that's stuck asked, not
what you can do what your country can do for you,
ask what you can do for your country. And I know,
without question, and I was one of them. It inspired
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young people to get into politics. Now that said, I
think that the problem eventually became that young people who
were doing this, that's all they were going to do,
and it was a limited experience. Looking back, they didn't say, well,
I'm going to go build a business, or I'm going
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to do this or I'm going to do that that
has nothing to do with politics. They just stuck with
politics all the time, and this is what encouraged I
think a lot of you know, or fair share of
elected officials. It's just, you know, that's all they do
all the time. And I think over time that that
is not a good situation here for them or for
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the country. I think that they get so wrapped up
in this. I think Joe Biden, frankly, is a perfect
example of this. He was twenty nine years old when
he was elected to the United States Senate and makes
what I don't know whether it's one hundred and fifty
or two hundred thousand dollars something as a United States senator.
How in the world to afford multimillion dollar houses and
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all of this kind of thing. Well, he affords it
because he so go the allegations he was the big
guy peddling you know, political influence in return for money
in Ukraine and these other places. I don't think that
Joe Biden is alone. He may be a standalone in
terms of the size and the amount and the offices
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he held, but I'm willing to bet you could find
people in public office alas unfortunately at much lower levels
of government, a local or state, who were doing some
version of the same thing. And that's where I think
this has gotten off the rails here.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Yeah, you have to be you know what that said.
You have to come from an honest foundation. I've worked
for major corporations, I've lived overseas in the Middle East,
I've worked with high I was not in a military,
but I worked on big dollar Middle Eastern in the
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private corporations and I saw I would I dealt directly
with corporate officers that were less than honest. They were lying,
and I knew it. I couldn't say anything at the
time because I didn't have the power. But the corruption
and people's people are too dishonest. Everybody's got to look
into the soul mirror and you know, make sure that
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you're doing.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
The right thing.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, you have to be raised by parents who are
raising you with a sense of integrity. I think that's
that's number one, and sometimes I think that that sort
of falls down and that is definitely not a good thing.
So well, John, thank you very much for calling. Let
let me see do we have some time here. I
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think we're going to move on to Josh in Minnesota.
Welcome to Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Thanks taking the call.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Absolutely absolutely, So what do you want to talk about, Josh?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Well, first, I was going to talk about Biden, but
they need to start talking about this shift in the
in the political parties. And you know, I grew up
in northwest Minnesota. My grandmother was a DFL delicate but
was also a strong believer in pro life wow. And
my grand my grandfather was a brick layer president of
the brick Layers Union. And I grew up in this area.
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You know, we were strong Democrats, and our state representative
was a Democrat, and and we had Colin Peterson from
this area going to Washington, and it all shifted about
I don't remember exactly what time, but about you know,
the Obama administration. You know, those representatives kind of retired
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and since then, this whole area has voted Republican. And
you know, we said shell fishbock to Washington and we've
got a Republican local rep. And it's just, you know,
we grew up with those values that you know, I'm
a veteran and you grew up with loving your country
and just kind of you know, middle moderate conservative type
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values and what was once. You know, what my grandmother
would have sported as a DFL delegate would have been
more Republican views. Now yeah, no, And as a fifty
year old white male, I almost feel like a minority now.
And I'm really scared for my kids the way, you know,
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the state of the political parties in the country have
taken over.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You know, well, I noticed it says here that you
were you were appalled that Biden was making false comments
on his way out of office, And.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, saying that, you know, he wholeheartedly believes he left
the country in a better states right he took over,
is just absurd.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Well, I'll tell you something about President Biden. I personally
have long since come to the belief that he's just
kind of sloppy about what he does and boasting when
he does that. And I had a personal experience in
the longe ago. When I was a kid, a teenager,
I was a big Bobby Kennedy fan. This would be
the father of the current RFK junior And when he
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died it was tragedy. They put out these long playing records.
I was in high school. I bought the records and
memorized his speeches. Now, that's nineteen sixty eight. In nineteen
September of nineteen eighty seven, I was working in the
White House for President Reagan as a political director, and
Joe Biden had just finished chairing the sort of disgraceful
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Robert Bork hearings for the Supreme Court, really not doing
a good job of it. But he was also running
for president, and he got caught by Governor Michael Ducacus,
his Democrat opponent, plagiarizing from the British Labor Party leader.
His name was Neil Kinnick, and the campaign said, oh,
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was misake or whatever, he didn't do this that kind
of thing. Well, I knew differently, and the reason was
that back in February of that year, we'd had a
big snowstorm in Washington, and Washington is terrible in snowstorms.
Everything shuts down. I live relatively nearby, so I walked
to my office in the White House totally alone in there,
nothing going on, the phone isn't ringing, So I thought, well,
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I'll see what's on c SPAN, since you know, I
can't do anything, And there was Joe Biden giving a
speech to the California Democratic Convention, and I thought, well,
that's interesting. He's supposed to be a good speaker. I'll listen.
I listened, and what did I find. I was getting
to the end of his sentences before he was. And
why was that? Because he was plagiarizing from Robert Kennedy,
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and I, you know, had the presence of mind to
pick up. I called a reporter at the New York Times,
Maureen Dowd by name, and brought over my records, lung
playing records to the New York Times, and within a
matter of days there was a front page story about
questions being raised by his speeches and quoted, among others,
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my much younger self and all this kind of thing.
But I just was I was amazed. I thought, how
can anybody think? I mean, Robert F. Kennedy Senior was
one of the most famous people on the planet at
that point, now deceased twenty years by by the time
this incident happened. But still in all, you know, I'm
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here in New York and I go best signs for
the RFK Bridge. The Justice Department in Washington is named
after Bobby Kennedy. So to think that you could sort of,
you know, take something from him and nobody would notice
I thought was just you know, wow, yeah, but typical.
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I think, you know, it just sloppy in terms of
how this how he sort of operates here, and I
think I think we're paying a price Afghanistan, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
So yeah, I grew up listening to Paul Harvey of
the radio.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You know, yeah, you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Eithers don't have shows like that anymore. Anyways, We've got
family members that are far right, and I got family
members that are I just kind of keep my mouth set.
You know. I believe in I believe in Trump's policies,
but sometimes I wish you'd just stay off Twitter.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, you know, that's a modern thing, and I don't
think that's ever going to go away, whether it's Trump
or anybody else. I think that, uh great, you know,
this is this is ingrained. You know, I remember reading
historically that I think it was nineteen twenty that there
was the first radio broadcast of a national political convention,
because radio was itself brand new, and you know, over
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time this the technology changes, and then we got to
television and you had that famous nineteen sixty television debate
with Kennedy and Nixon, and the question became how to
use makeup and all this kind of thing because Kennedy
took the makeup Nixon didn't, and people thought that those
who watched on television thought Nixon lost, and those who
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listened to it on the radio thirty one. But my
point is the technology changes, and we are in the
twenty first century, so buckle in. It's more or less
what we've got to do here.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Long for the old bees.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So yeah, yeah, things were much simpler in those days now,
and I always am sort of, you know, simultaneously horrified
and amused. You see somebody who commits a crime and
they have no recognition that there are cameras all over
the place like this knit with who killed the healthcare executives.
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So well, Josh, thank you very much for calling. And
this is Jeffrey Lord filling in for Sean Hannity. And
give us a call at eight hundred nine for one
seven three two six and we'll be back. All right.
This is Jeffrey Lord in for our friend Sean Hannity,
and uh we are going to uh be reached here
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at eight hundred and nine four one seven three two six.
And let's go to Greg in Iowa, who wants to
talk a little bit more about Hunter.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Good afternoon, sir, Good afternoon. So my point is with Hunter,
and I know it's a terrible deal, you know, especially
for his dad, even though it's you know, it's Joe Biden.
But if you love your child, discipline him.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
If you your child.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Don't, and you know now that he's been given a
free pass, you know what, what's what's it going to
be like for the next ten years. I think we
all know what the outcome is going to be. You know,
he's gonna he's gonna end up in the in the
gutter again, and they'll probably you know, an unfortunate outcome
that comes along with that. But all that being said,
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Biden had to pardon him to take all the legal
troubles off the plate, because if Hunter went to court,
Biden was going to end up in court.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Well, I think that's I think that's a considerable situation there.
I think you're you're absolutely right that I mean the
infamous reference to the big guy ten percent for the
big guy who might that be? And I do think
that they were as long as Hunter was out there,
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that they were in a position to find themselves very
much in trouble here. And so I think he's done
what he's done to you know, in part because it's Hunter.
I don't have any doubt about this. And you're you're right,
he's he's walked away with excuses his whole life. And
you know the question is now, what is he fifty
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years old something like that? Is he going to fifty eight?
You know, get his actica there and change his uh
his operation here and and get us act together to
be decided. We will see. So, uh well, thank you
very much, great for calling. We are going to go
into another break here. This is Jeffrey Lord filling in
(30:16):
for Sean Hannity at eight hundred and ninety four one seven, three,
two six
All right, this is Jeffrey Lord filling in for our
friend Sean Hannity. And our phone number here is eight
hundred ninety four one seven three two six or eight
hundred ninety four to one Sean. So let's, uh, let's
spend a little time on the phones here. And what
I see up here is our friend Claire from Florida.
(00:23):
And Claire, why don't you tell us a little bit
about why you called?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Okay, Well, I'm a lifetime Republican and I could rattle
off all the names to prove that, but so I
am a Republican.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I think that Biden pardoning Hunter was the right thing
to do as a father. That's his responsibility. If Biden
had not pardoned Hunter, he would be castigated about it
for the rest of his life. Now. I hope people
will call in and discuss that with you. But that's
my opinion. I'm not improving. I don't approve of Biden,
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but I approve of pardoning his son because he is
the father.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, you know, you might it might surprise you, Claire,
but I tend to agree with you on that. I
just think that I think there's so much more and
I think we will find out as we move away
from the Biden era that memoirs will come out and
investigative reports will come out. I think we will learn
a lot that is not very favorable to the Biden family,
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or as they've been mimicked, to the Biden crime family.
I think that is important to get to. But I
think in this situation and remembering in terms of family history,
I was not to date myself, but I was in
college when Joe Biden was elected to the United States Senator.
He was twenty nine years old, soon to turn the
required age of thirty, and this to be elected a
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United States Senator was a big deal. And within a
matter of weeks after that, there was a car accident
that killed his wife and little girl, and I think
injured Hunter and brother bo and I suspect. And then then,
of course, a number of years later, Bo draw passes
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away from cancer. I think, if you're the father in
that situation, that's enough, and you wanted Hunter has I
think unquestionably made a mess of things. That's his problem.
He'll have to He'll have the rest of his life
to get his acting gear. But I do think that
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I don't think that Joe Biden could have done or
would have done anything else, and so you know, on
we go and I and I think just in terms
of the bidens in general, I think now the time
is here to move on, to move forward. And having
studied presidents enough from you know, George Washington on and
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having worked for a president, I worked for President Reagan,
what happens is the men their successor is elected. It's
kind of it sounds kind of harsh, but wow, people
just turn their attention from that person who had been
president and turn it to who the new guy is.
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So I think that process has already started. I think
you saw it at the international level, as I was
saying earlier when President Trump President elect Trump went to
France to celebrate the Notre Dame source. So okay, Claire, well, Claire,
thank you very much. I think that was a good
thing to get cleared up here. I need to turn now,
(03:37):
want to turn now to my old friend mattch Slap
of the American Conservative Union. Hello there, Matthew, how are
you hey?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Jeffrey, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Hanukkah and all the rest. Yeah,
I think it's great, Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It is.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Indeed, it is indeed, and I was sort of wondering,
what's your take now that you know twenty twenty four
is behind us, twenty twenty five is beginning to take shape. Matt,
for those who are unaware, is also the head along
with wife Mercy. And by the way, Matt, something some
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little bird told me there was something going on with
missus Schlapp today. I don't know what that might be.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
She got a little bit older today, just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Uh oh, that means she's finally eighteen. Well, that's that's good.
That's good. Well, I think that you know, Sea Pack
and the Conservative Union and all this, we have our
work cut out for us, and it's going to be
very interesting to see as we move into twenty twenty
five and presumably the next four years. What's your take
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on what lies ahead for us?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Well, first of all, I have to say DETI thinks
and gratitude to you, Jeffrey, because you saw what was
going on in the country. You were a Reagan guy.
I was a push guy, and you saw what was
going on with Donald Trump and you were with him
early and you stuck by him. I'm very proud of
SEAPAC no matter what happened. We stuck by Trump. We
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put him on our stage in Orlando, Florida when they
closed this down in Washington, DC. Yes, and we put
Donald Trump on the stage about fifty days after January sixth,
and you know, caused the controversy at the board. Some
of our people said, you can't invite Donald Trump after
j six and I said, no way, He's going to
be on our stage. He's our president. And you guys
(05:36):
have J six all wrong. And so now we're to
today after all of that, and all I can say is,
I don't know if there's a more important year than
twenty twenty five, and probably I don't know the last
eighty years. This is a big one.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yes, I think that's absolutely right. I think it's absolutely right.
There's all kinds of things that can gonna happen here.
And I'm led to believe that Mercedes is on the line.
Is that true?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Do we have mercy?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I hope they're telling me that she just vanished. Don't
you love twenty first century technology?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Man, end the phone over to her when you're ready
for her. Here's my take on this year.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
We've got this first year of her presidency is awfully important.
It's critical we have these small majorities in the House
and Senate, and and for those of us who are
insiders and know too much, it's easy to get discouraged.
But for everyone else who's just rooting Trump on, I
think the key is is we got to keep these
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congressional Republicans, the Senate Republicans on the Trump train. They
got to get a plan on this budget. I read
lots of theories and talk to a lot of people
that have different theories about what they can do on
the budget. But I'd just want them to get on
the same page on the budget, between Speaker Johnson and
John Food and the President and his team. And my
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advice to them would be keep it simple stupid. Not
that any of them are stupid, but you know, Republicans
have a hard time sticking together, and in this case,
I think if they try for one budget resolution, get
the taxes in there, get all the border stuff you
need in there, at a few other policies that we
all are on board, get one done, and don't be
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too worried about how fast you do it, and then
let's see how much time we have left on the
clock to do a second one.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
One of the things that I remember vividly when I
was starting out my career in Washington, I was working
for Congressman Budd Schuster from Pennsylvania. Oh yeah, legendary, legendary indeed.
And while he was particularly famous for serving as later
as Chair of the House Public Works and Transportation Committee
as was then called, he also served on the House
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Budget Committee and as his legislative director. And I was
assigned to, you know, do the staff work and go
to all these budget committee meetings and read the federal budget, which,
as you know, was thousands of pages and all of
this kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, but you could do it back then. I don't
think you could today.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, I think that's I think that's about right.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
One of the things that I learned which sort of
took me aback, and I have remembered this, oh is
is it wasn't just liberal Democrats on the committee who
were putting stuff in this budget. It was Republicans. And
I thought, oh, my goodness, what you know, what what
is going on here? And you know, all these years later,
(08:45):
I can see why so many Americans who sort of
caught on to how this works, are making complaints about
the so called uniparty and that kind of thing. What
are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, I will tell you the birthday girl has joined us.
Ah Mercy is here, and I'll give you a quick
answer because I know you're gonna want to talk to her.
But my view is this, which is it's a pox
on both their houses. They are both parties, both major
parties are responsible for outrageous decision making around the budget.
Most Republican presidents haven't helped the matter.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Problem is when Reagan was president and we actually had
budget fights closed down the government or the government was closed,
as you'd say, and then Nuke Ingridge tried to do
the same thing. When we got the majority in the
House for the first time in foury or whatever years,
it was the the and the Republicans over corrected. They thought,
oh my god, we lost the shutdown fight with Bill Clinton,
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We'll never win a budget fight again. We might as
well just join them on the spending front, with our
Republican pork joining the Democratic pork. And it's resulted in
a very precarious financial situation for America, which means the
free world is in a very precarious position, and I
really applaud those Republicans who were saying, look, enough is enough.
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We've got to kind of rein in the spending. And
it's not just the CRS. This is like a little
fraction of the budget. You know, when you were working
on the Hill, that was a big part of the budget.
Now it's a tiny little part because we've put almost
all the government on autopilot with the mandatory spending, which
is kind of a made up title, and we've got
to get into all that spending. You know, I don't
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know if President Trump wants this to be a focus
of his but the fact is we don't have much
time left, and Republicans better starting like the Reagan Republicans.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, Marcy, what are your thoughts on where on where
President Trump goes with all of this that we're coming
along with.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yeah, no, Look, I think it's very important for President
Trump to remain the top. How can I say, spokesperson
leader of talking about these budget fights. I think that
you know, of course Elon and they have an important role.
They're leading the DOGE efforts, but you know, they really
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have never worked in Washington the day and I think
it's important for them to understand that they will have
to work closely with the Office of Management and Budget
and uh and figure out, you know, yes, strip out,
take out all these DEI initiatives throughout all of the government,
figure out where this all this misspending is happening. I mean,
(11:18):
you're talking about that the Pentagon couldn't even you know,
they failed their audits seven times. You know, there there
needs to be major fixes in the government. With that
being said, Uh, you know, I do think that the
that the American people are expecting tax cuts, they're expecting
tax cuts quickly, and I think that has to be
the top priority in addition to securing the border and
(11:41):
making sure that if they move forward with this sort
of deportation plan, that it's not going to be come
into a you know, public relations fiasco, but really hone
in on these criminal aliens. So I think that there
that is where the top priority has to be. I
do think that, you know, I've been watching uh, you
know X yesterday and today, and I see the Veke
(12:02):
commenting about you know, the immigration visas and and and
elon as well, and I'm like, dude, guys, stay out
of immigration, stay in your lane. Focus on cutting the government.
Don't get off message because at the end of the day,
it is President Trump, it is President Trump's agenda, and
we all just have we have to support him to
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make sure that his agenda gets accomplished. And he's going
to have a very short window because as you know this, Jeffrey,
that your political capital, you start losing it after a
year or two, right. Uh, And and he's got to
move quickly.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Just as a matter of curiosity, are Elon and k
are they coming? Have they especially any interest in coming
to Sea pac.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
We have and Eve has been uh, you know, he's
come very regularly last couple of seapacks.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
So when we've actually worked really closely with and uh,
I don't have a relationship with Elon musk As then
Mercy and I had a wonderful conversation with him in
marrow Ago a few weeks ago when we had the
event down there. And we've talked with some of these
people and they say he wants to come, and we
of course love to have him. But you know, our
focus is two things. Number one, what's the best way
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to use ce Pack to push the Trump agenda? And
we'll be right in the middle of the first one
hundred days when SEPAC starts in February and Washington DC,
so like it's almost like the midterms, right, Like, how
are we doing so far? How many cabin secretaries have
been confirmed? Where are we on this agenda? How many
of these day one executive orders are being fought out
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in courtrooms, which I think one hundred percent will sadly, so,
I think we have to use spack to leverage all
the people around the country who are so excited that
Trump won. But the second thing CEPAC has to do, Jeffrey,
is what it's done really well in the last few years.
We've broad in this effort. People say, big ten, I
don't really love that analogy, but we've expanded this coalition.
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We are the first people to invite Tulfa Gabbert, We
were the first people to invite Donald Trump. We were
the first people to invite Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Like
when these new voices popped up on one issue area,
we didn't say, oh, you can't join our club because
you don't agree with us on everything. We said, hey,
why don't you come over to our club. We'd like
to hear your thoughts. And it's a great ride. As
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we expand this coalition, it's less about parties. Now.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, I think that's right, and I think alas we're
running out of time here, but I do think that
the parties have switch positions, if you will. I think
the Republican Party is the party of working class Americans,
working Americans, and I think that's a good thing. That's
a good thing. I think this started with President Reagan,
and President Trump has taken it to the max. So well,
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Matt Mercy, thank you very much. I will make plans
to see you at sea pack and happy birthday.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
There to the missus Mary Christmas.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Merry Christmas, and happy New Year. Right, okay, thank you
very much, and we'll be back. This is Jeffrey Lord
in for Sean Hannity, and if you want to call in,
our number is eight hundred and nine four one seven
three two six. All right, welcome back. This is Jeffrey
Lord filling in for our friend Sean Hannity. Our number
(15:16):
here is eight hundred and nine four one seven three
two six, And let's take a call from John in
North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Hey, Jeffrey, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I'm doing great, and you happy New Year.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
You know, and all the rest, Yes, sir, I'm enjoying
the time off. My comment is I've been following politics
and you know, listen to talk radio for many, many,
many years, and about fifteen years ago I started. I'm
an independent voter. I'm not a member of any party,
but I do vote. I use common sense. I back Trump.
(15:53):
And what I don't understand is about fifteen years ago
I looked at everything and I said, you know what,
the behavior of these Democrats, they're just like organized crime.
And I felt and it's not meant to be an attack.
It's not meant to, you know, be name calling, except
it it aptly identifies what we're up against. And if
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you if you look at the traits of organized crime
such as tax evasion, which Hunter Biden does, uh or
and you're on people are on the take. We're always
finding and I'm not saying Republicans or you know that
avoid any of this. But the con men, you know,
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the term con men comes from confidence men the people
that can go out and right.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
We fool you.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
So I what I'm saying here is I think the
media commentators that are trying to be as truthfuls as
they can really It's like when Trump got that got
the term fake news to stick. I think we should
try to get the term organized crime to stick whenever
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we're talking about either deep state.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Well, i'll tell you, you know, I don't know whether
the organized crime thing will fit or not, but I
think you're onto something. And I was thinking about this,
and I'm of an age that I remember vividly as
a child. My parents were very active in Republican politics
and Massachusetts, so they were always very interested in what
was going on, and together we watched in January of
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nineteen sixty one, I was in the fourth grade, Hello
President Kennedy being sworn in and giving us inaugural address,
which was very memorable. The phrase that's stuck asked, not
what you can do what your country can do for you,
ask what you can do for your country. And I know,
without question, and I was one of them. It inspired
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young people to get into politics. Now that said, I
think that the problem eventually became that young people who
were doing this, that's all they were going to do,
and it was a limited experience. Looking back, they didn't say, well,
I'm going to go build a business, or I'm going
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to do this or I'm going to do that that
has nothing to do with politics. They just stuck with
politics all the time, and this is what encouraged I
think a lot of you know, or fair share of
elected officials. It's just, you know, that's all they do
all the time. And I think over time that that
is not a good situation here for them or for
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the country. I think that they get so wrapped up
in this. I think Joe Biden, frankly, is a perfect
example of this. He was twenty nine years old when
he was elected to the United States Senate and makes
what I don't know whether it's one hundred and fifty
or two hundred thousand dollars something as a United States senator.
How in the world to afford multimillion dollar houses and
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all of this kind of thing. Well, he affords it
because he so go the allegations he was the big
guy peddling you know, political influence in return for money
in Ukraine and these other places. I don't think that
Joe Biden is alone. He may be a standalone in
terms of the size and the amount and the offices
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he held, but I'm willing to bet you could find
people in public office alas unfortunately at much lower levels
of government, a local or state, who were doing some
version of the same thing. And that's where I think
this has gotten off the rails here.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Yeah, you have to be you know what that said.
You have to come from an honest foundation. I've worked
for major corporations, I've lived overseas in the Middle East,
I've worked with high I was not in a military,
but I worked on big dollar Middle Eastern in the
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private corporations and I saw I would I dealt directly
with corporate officers that were less than honest. They were lying,
and I knew it. I couldn't say anything at the
time because I didn't have the power. But the corruption
and people's people are too dishonest. Everybody's got to look
into the soul mirror and you know, make sure that
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you're doing.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
The right thing.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, you have to be raised by parents who are
raising you with a sense of integrity. I think that's
that's number one, and sometimes I think that that sort
of falls down and that is definitely not a good thing.
So well, John, thank you very much for calling. Let
let me see do we have some time here. I
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think we're going to move on to Josh in Minnesota.
Welcome to Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Thanks taking the call.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Absolutely absolutely, So what do you want to talk about, Josh?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Well, first, I was going to talk about Biden, but
they need to start talking about this shift in the
in the political parties. And you know, I grew up
in northwest Minnesota. My grandmother was a DFL delicate but
was also a strong believer in pro life wow. And
my grand my grandfather was a brick layer president of
the brick Layers Union. And I grew up in this area.
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You know, we were strong Democrats, and our state representative
was a Democrat, and and we had Colin Peterson from
this area going to Washington, and it all shifted about
I don't remember exactly what time, but about you know,
the Obama administration. You know, those representatives kind of retired
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and since then, this whole area has voted Republican. And
you know, we said shell fishbock to Washington and we've
got a Republican local rep. And it's just, you know,
we grew up with those values that you know, I'm
a veteran and you grew up with loving your country
and just kind of you know, middle moderate conservative type
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values and what was once. You know, what my grandmother
would have sported as a DFL delegate would have been
more Republican views. Now yeah, no, And as a fifty
year old white male, I almost feel like a minority now.
And I'm really scared for my kids the way, you know,
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the state of the political parties in the country have
taken over.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You know, well, I noticed it says here that you
were you were appalled that Biden was making false comments
on his way out of office, And.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, saying that, you know, he wholeheartedly believes he left
the country in a better states right he took over,
is just absurd.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Well, I'll tell you something about President Biden. I personally
have long since come to the belief that he's just
kind of sloppy about what he does and boasting when
he does that. And I had a personal experience in
the longe ago. When I was a kid, a teenager,
I was a big Bobby Kennedy fan. This would be
the father of the current RFK junior And when he
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died it was tragedy. They put out these long playing records.
I was in high school. I bought the records and
memorized his speeches. Now, that's nineteen sixty eight. In nineteen
September of nineteen eighty seven, I was working in the
White House for President Reagan as a political director, and
Joe Biden had just finished chairing the sort of disgraceful
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Robert Bork hearings for the Supreme Court, really not doing
a good job of it. But he was also running
for president, and he got caught by Governor Michael Ducacus,
his Democrat opponent, plagiarizing from the British Labor Party leader.
His name was Neil Kinnick, and the campaign said, oh,
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was misake or whatever, he didn't do this that kind
of thing. Well, I knew differently, and the reason was
that back in February of that year, we'd had a
big snowstorm in Washington, and Washington is terrible in snowstorms.
Everything shuts down. I live relatively nearby, so I walked
to my office in the White House totally alone in there,
nothing going on, the phone isn't ringing, So I thought, well,
(24:26):
I'll see what's on c SPAN, since you know, I
can't do anything, And there was Joe Biden giving a
speech to the California Democratic Convention, and I thought, well,
that's interesting. He's supposed to be a good speaker. I'll listen.
I listened, and what did I find. I was getting
to the end of his sentences before he was. And
why was that? Because he was plagiarizing from Robert Kennedy,
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and I, you know, had the presence of mind to
pick up. I called a reporter at the New York Times,
Maureen Dowd by name, and brought over my records, lung
playing records to the New York Times, and within a
matter of days there was a front page story about
questions being raised by his speeches and quoted, among others,
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my much younger self and all this kind of thing.
But I just was I was amazed. I thought, how
can anybody think? I mean, Robert F. Kennedy Senior was
one of the most famous people on the planet at
that point, now deceased twenty years by by the time
this incident happened. But still in all, you know, I'm
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here in New York and I go best signs for
the RFK Bridge. The Justice Department in Washington is named
after Bobby Kennedy. So to think that you could sort of,
you know, take something from him and nobody would notice
I thought was just you know, wow, yeah, but typical.
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I think, you know, it just sloppy in terms of
how this how he sort of operates here, and I
think I think we're paying a price Afghanistan, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
So yeah, I grew up listening to Paul Harvey of
the radio.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You know, yeah, you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Eithers don't have shows like that anymore. Anyways, We've got
family members that are far right, and I got family
members that are I just kind of keep my mouth set.
You know. I believe in I believe in Trump's policies,
but sometimes I wish you'd just stay off Twitter.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, you know, that's a modern thing, and I don't
think that's ever going to go away, whether it's Trump
or anybody else. I think that, uh great, you know,
this is this is ingrained. You know, I remember reading
historically that I think it was nineteen twenty that there
was the first radio broadcast of a national political convention,
because radio was itself brand new, and you know, over
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time this the technology changes, and then we got to
television and you had that famous nineteen sixty television debate
with Kennedy and Nixon, and the question became how to
use makeup and all this kind of thing because Kennedy
took the makeup Nixon didn't, and people thought that those
who watched on television thought Nixon lost, and those who
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listened to it on the radio thirty one. But my
point is the technology changes, and we are in the
twenty first century, so buckle in. It's more or less
what we've got to do here.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Long for the old bees.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So yeah, yeah, things were much simpler in those days now,
and I always am sort of, you know, simultaneously horrified
and amused. You see somebody who commits a crime and
they have no recognition that there are cameras all over
the place like this knit with who killed the healthcare executives.
(27:51):
So well, Josh, thank you very much for calling. And
this is Jeffrey Lord filling in for Sean Hannity. And
give us a call at eight hundred nine for one
seven three two six and we'll be back. All right.
This is Jeffrey Lord in for our friend Sean Hannity,
and uh we are going to uh be reached here
(28:12):
at eight hundred and nine four one seven three two six.
And let's go to Greg in Iowa, who wants to
talk a little bit more about Hunter.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Good afternoon, sir, Good afternoon. So my point is with Hunter,
and I know it's a terrible deal, you know, especially
for his dad, even though it's you know, it's Joe Biden.
But if you love your child, discipline him.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
If you your child.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Don't, and you know now that he's been given a
free pass, you know what, what's what's it going to
be like for the next ten years. I think we
all know what the outcome is going to be. You know,
he's gonna he's gonna end up in the in the
gutter again, and they'll probably you know, an unfortunate outcome
that comes along with that. But all that being said,
(29:03):
Biden had to pardon him to take all the legal
troubles off the plate, because if Hunter went to court,
Biden was going to end up in court.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Well, I think that's I think that's a considerable situation there.
I think you're you're absolutely right that I mean the
infamous reference to the big guy ten percent for the
big guy who might that be? And I do think
that they were as long as Hunter was out there,
(29:34):
that they were in a position to find themselves very
much in trouble here. And so I think he's done
what he's done to you know, in part because it's Hunter.
I don't have any doubt about this. And you're you're right,
he's he's walked away with excuses his whole life. And
you know the question is now, what is he fifty
(29:54):
years old something like that? Is he going to fifty eight?
You know, get his actica there and change his uh
his operation here and and get us act together to
be decided. We will see. So, uh well, thank you
very much, great for calling. We are going to go
into another break here. This is Jeffrey Lord filling in
(30:16):
for Sean Hannity at eight hundred and ninety four one seven, three,
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