May 12, 2025 • 31 mins
Rose Tennent fills in for the traveling Sean and sits down with author and former trade representative Gordon Chang to discuss the recent deal that China struck with the Trump Administration. China finally decided to make a deal!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name
is Rose. Sean is traveling with the President on his
Middle East tour. You can hear all about it as
he weighs in every night on his TV show Live
from the Middle East in the meantime. My name is Rose,
as I said, and joining me today, is the author
of several books, some of which are planned read China's
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Going to War and also The Coming Collapse of China
and the Great US China Tech War. And I have
read some of these books. I've always had to listen
to what he's had to say about China. He's an
expert in my opinion. His name is Gordon Chang. He's
a former United States Trade representative. He's joining us today
to talk about what happened with the talks between the
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US and China this weekend in Switzerland. Please welcome to
the show, Gordon Chang.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm fine, Rose, and thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
If anyone wants to keep up with what's going on,
particularly where China is Concer learned, you can check Gordon
out at Gordon g Chang on x SO. Mister Chang,
there's a lot going on right now. Everybody's telling us
that the talks in Switzerland over the weekend were substantial
in terms of progress. The Chinese Vice Premier said it
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was an important first step toward resolving differences. China is
America's third largest trading partner. But what we are looking
at right now is hopefully setting a path for future
discussions on open market access for American exports, because in
my opinion, that's one of the most important things. But
there were a lot of things that they were hoping
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for in this meeting. They were hoping that they could
achieve to de escalate tensions with China. They wanted to
create a level playing field. They wanted to rebuild their
strategic industries that have been actually hollowed out in the past.
Retrade not fair trade. There a whole bunch of things
that they wanted to accomplish. What, in fact, in your opinion,
did they achieve and how realistic were those goals in
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the first place, so great questions.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
What happened was a temporary concession by the United States
ninety day pause on tariffs, and at the end of
that we will see if China is as good as
its word. President Trump today said the Chinese agreed to
open their economy to American products. This is something that
Americans have wanted for centuries, actually, and it's something we
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thought we'd get with China's accession to the World Trade
Organization in two thousand and one. But China's continued the
theft of US intellectual property and increasingly we see China's
trade policy is becoming more and more predatory. So we're
going to see if the Treasury Secretary can negotiate a
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larger trade deal. So at the moment, US tariffs have
been dropped and the Chinese have dropped tariffs as well,
and it's sort of like a temporary truce.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, you know, and you touched.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
On something too, because we've had a massive trade deficit
where China is concerned, and it concerns me too for
our manufacturing sector because there's been a decline and all
they do is really fuel the offshoring of American jobs.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So my hope, and I'm not sure why do I
feel a little like.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Cautious going forward with this because I'm not sure I
trust them. I mean, isn't it in their best interest
as well? I'm talking about China. The Communist Party isn't
it in their best interest to follow through on some
of these things that were discussed over the.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Weekend, Well, yes, it is. The reason is the Chinese
economy is fundamentally unbalanced. Consumption accounts for something like thirty
eight thirty nine percent of China's gross domestic product. That
is low by global standards, perhaps maybe even the lowest contribution. Now,
Sijan Pain is developing a wartime economy. He wants to
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export his way out of problems. Of fact, that's his
only solution, which means he needs the US. Now, the
problem is that cijmping is building up a war machine
which is configured to kill Americans, and so we might
have an interest in not trading with him in order
to make sure he doesn't have the resources to go
build those ships and train the tanks and everything else
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that he wants to use against us and our friends.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, and that concerns me very much because when we
talk about, first of all, their economy, it isn't it's
not doing well. And in fact, how does the worker's
protest play into it? Because it takes a lot of
hutzpot if you asked me to protest in China, right, So,
how surprised was the CCP buy that, and did the
protest actually persuade the party one way or another.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Particularly where all of this is concerned.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I imagine that the worker protests across China and also
the bank protests because I think depositors are not being
able to get their mon out of some of the
smaller financial institutions. This must have had a factor in
the decisions of the Communist Party to talk to treasure
Secretary Bessant and US Trade representative Career right now. These protests, actually,
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these protests have been occurring even before Trump took the
oath of office for a second term, but they've gotten
worse because the tariffs have slammed China's exports sector, which
has been particularly hard hit for our last year and
a half. Maybe we're seeing that a lot of these
factories don't have orders, but these tariffs have pushed some
of these factories to the point of closure, and there
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are closures across China, and they're more and more worker protests.
As you point out, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
When you think about it, I mean, yeah, we're talking
about the Communist Chinese Party, but we're also talking about
real people who are also being affected by it, not
because of anything we've done, obviously, but because of the
way their government is run.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And that breaks my heart for them.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It does because the biggest victims of the Communist Party,
matter of fact, and most immediate victims are of course
the Chinese people, but there are a lot of other
victims of the Communist Party, including American workers, because through
these predatory practices, through ip theft, China has robbed the
future of many Americans. You drive through the Rust Belt,
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you drive through the South, there are a lot of
towns that have been devastated by the loss of factories
to China, and that means when there's a loss of hope,
you see fentanyl. When you see fentanyl, there is death.
China is responsible for the fentanyl gangs. And that's also
a factor that President Trump is taken into account when
he set the trade policy. Because twenty percent of our
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thirty percent terriffs are were imposed this year because of fentanyl.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That's right, and one of the things and they have,
but they didn't make anything. There's nothing conclusive that came
out of these talks where fentanyl is concerned. They said
that they're going to take that the US and China
will take aggressive actions to stem the flow of fentanyl
and other precursors from China to ilictit drug producers in
North America. So but there's nothing substantial here just yet
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in terms of what actions they are going to take
and with those aggressive, aggressive accent actions might actually produce yes.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
And let's remember this is cagym Ping who promised in
twenty twenty three to President Biden to stop the flow
of precursors across the Pacific. This is the Segimping in
twenty eighteen that made the same essentially the same promise
through President Trump. And it's the same seagem thing who
made the same promise to President Obama in twenty sixteen.
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So we've had a lot of promises from China about fentanyl.
We've only seen the fentanyl trade increase and there's only
been a stop where there's been a reduction in the
flow of fentanyl, not because of what the Chinese have
been doing, but because President Trump closed down the southern
border and he went after a candidate where there was
a lot of fentanyl coming in from as well.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath on that one,
but it'll be interesting to see. I mean, we are
talking about different leadership here, so that should help us
and these efforts for sure. And also I just want
to comment to you mentioned how we want to encourage
our you know, domestic production here and strengthen our supply chains.
And I suppose that when they talk about retaining that
ten percent tariff during the period of pause, that that
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will help us. So instead of undercutting American workers, it
would instead support them.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, well, it's a thirty percent general tariff rate, but
also we have additional tariffs on top of that road
so for instance, well.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yes, thirty four pot yeah, you're right, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
We have the Section two thirty two tariffs, and those
uncertain goods raised that general thirty percent tariff rate to
quite a high rate.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know, there's something that you mentioned on X and
by the way, we're talking to Gordon Chang and you
can find him on Exit's Gordon g Chang on X.
But I think I saw this on AX. You said
that while and Career are making soothing statements about the
results of the trade talks, China's officials are issuing strident
and defiant words on Chinese language media.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
That doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
No, this was yesterday, right after the announcement that there
was going to be an announcement today, and we saw,
you know, we saw our officials make conservatory statements, but
Chinese officials are making very defiant ones to the Chinese.
And I haven't seen anything since President Trump's conference today,
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but I'm sure we're going to see a whole group
of a whole flew of new pronouncements from Beijing which
are probably as strident as the ones twenty four hours ago.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, that begs the question, why, mister Chang, why the
defiant words? I mean, they have a enemy that's that's
taken a fall, they have workers that have been protesting,
and yet they will, they will get on Chinese language
media and have this defiant conversation for the good. I mean,
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like the only reason they're doing this is to somehow
what for their own people, for the Chinese people? What
is the goal here? What's the plan? I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah. For about a half decade, C. Jimping has been trying,
has been saying to the Chinese people that China has
already surpassed the US, that the US is in terminal decline,
that China doesn't need the US except in very limited areas.
So when China goes to a third party location such
as Switzerland and negotiates with the US, they got to
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come up with some sort of explanation, and their explanation
has been, well, yeah, we're not going to bow down
to the Americans, which is a phrase that they often use,
and they're probably going to say that they got the
better of the deal, which they did in a sense,
and they are going to make that case. That basically
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underlines Sijian Thing's authority and legitimacy, because if China can't
appear to need the US, it can't appear to be
getting into pressure from President Trump, which is what the
Chinese in a sense did, So they've got to be
defiant in their propaganda.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Well, you know, in China, I mean, let's face it.
I mean the truth is, nothing really has changed their
goals and their mindset. I mean, they would like to
dominate as much as possible. And don't forget too that
we've seen over recent years how they've been forming those
unholy alliances with countries like Russia and Iran.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Is that going to change just because we're entering into
this agreement where tariffs are concerned.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
No, it's not going to change. Sijian Thing has been
pushing the notion that China not only should control the world,
should not only dominate the world, should not only exert
hegemony over the world, but it should rule the world.
He's been pushing this notion that Chinese rulers have the
mandate of Heaven to rule what they call t Andcu.
We're all under heaven, and if we think it's just
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limited to planet Earth. Since twenty seventeen, Chinese officials have
been making the case in public that the Moon and
Mars should be considered sovereign Chinese territory, in other words,
part of the People's republic. So yeah, it's ludicrous, but
we can't ignore what these guys are saying because this
is not normal competition. As the Bid administration said, this
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is an attempt to revolutionize the world by imposing worldwide
Chinese rule. And of course, we do not consider ourselves
to be a colony of China, but China that they
consider us to be subservient and a colony to the
greater Celestial Court in Beiji.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You know, I think this is just my opinion, because
what do I know I'm not at on this, but
it seems to me that they're like, yeah, okay, we're
gonna we'll go ahead with this, We're gonna work with you,
while behind the scenes they're still kind of preparing, as
you say in your book, for war and also to
sanction proof itself. So I think while both of these
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things are true, for the time being, they may appear
to be working with us, and we only have like
two minutes here for you to answer that, but really
they're still working some other things out that fallow more
in line with their agenda that you just spoke of.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah. Absolutely, they believe that they're in an existential struggle
with the United States, and for us, it's not because
of anything we say or do, but because of who
we are and insecure regime in Beijing is worried about
the inspirational impact of America's values in form of governance
on the Chinese people, which means we will never have
amicable relations with China as long as the Communist Party
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rules it.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
That's all right, thank you, and I have to let
you go right now. I'm still sorry. But Gordon Chang,
author of the Coming Collapse of China, also check him out.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Gordon G.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Chang on X. Thank you mister Change for joining me today.
Very important subject.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Thank you well, thank you Roch.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
My name is Rose.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I'm going to say thank you to WJAS here in
Pittsburgh for allowing me to use their studios, and to
Greg and Darryl here who have just done a great
job getting me set up. And of course there's always Lynda,
Ethan and Katie. So thanks to all of you. It's
my pleasure to be sitting in for Sean today. I'll
be doing it again on Friday, looking forward to that
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
And your phone calls.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
The phone number here is eight hundred ninety four to
one Sean eight hundred ninety four one seven three two six.
On the phone is Jay from Delaware. Hey Jay, how
are you doing?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Good?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Afternoon? Doing well? A lot of things in the on
the headlines today that you know, hopefully we got some
good deals coming with China, and you know there's this,
you know, if everybody just let the man do his work,
I think we're all going to be happy with the result.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
We were the last time he did it, you know, yeah, right, yeah,
So you know, for days.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
It's just incredible.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I know he comes across a little bit krass.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
If you will, But if if the if people just
let him do his work and let his cabin do
his work, I think they're gonna be really satisfy. You
got the prescription drugs coming down, you got a possible
blockbuster deal with China that's going to steamroll into all
kinds of positive things for economy, border security. I mean,
this is I've never seen anything like it. I hope
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you know your network's uh cover positive tonight on this.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Don't hold your don't hold your breath, Jay, come on,
you know you just reminded me of something though, And
there was something I didn't meant. I was talking about
the Federalist papers early on, and one of the things
I didn't mention was what was written in the papers
about strong leadership and as it relates to a president.
One of the things that Alexander Hamilton said in those
papers is that energy in the executive is a leading
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character in the definition of good government. It's essential to
the protection of the community against foreign attacks. But he
also said this, and I think this is so telling.
He said, a feeble executive feeble. Remind you of anyone
four years four years? A feeble executive implies a feeble
execution of the government. A feeble execution is but another
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phrase for bad execution. And the government ill executed. Whatever
it may be in theory, must be in practice a
bad government. Can anyone say the Biden administration when we
say feeble? Truer words, mister Hamilton, truer words. Jay, Thanks
for that reminder. I wanted to bring that up. And
thanks for your call today too. I appreciate it. Alan
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is calling from North Carolina. Hey, Alan, how are you?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (16:51):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Rose good?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Can you can you hear me?
Speaker 9 (16:55):
Good?
Speaker 8 (16:55):
You're doing a great job. I just wanted to bring
up the point that here lately, with all of Trump's deportations,
they're wanting to cry out that these people are have
the right to do process. And I think Obama was
called the deporter in chief, and I'm not sure of
the number, but Bill Clinton also deported millions of people.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
And did they.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Either of those presidents, did they have due process for
any of the or hearings for any of the people
that they deported.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well, you bring up a good point because I saw
your name up there and description of what you wanted
to talk about. I did a quick search and in
one year alone, twenty thirteen, that's all the further I
had time for. They're under Obama. There were four hundred
and thirty eight, four hundred and twenty one Depoor did so. Yeah,
I mean, you're absolutely right, no one. I mean I
think that he did actually get some criticism at the time,
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not from anyone on the right, but I think there
were some that were concerned about that. But no, he
absolutely was doing that without the same criticisms that we're
getting or we hear, well, they're always going to find
something wrong with Donald Trump. It's never going to end.
And you know, the thing that blows my mind, Alan
is that we see such great success when when we
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see what Doge is uncovered that alone, and taking that
back to what I said in my monologue about overreach
of the government and just you would think people would say, bravo,
bravo Donald Trump. I hate you, but bravo, that was
great because it's their money that's being misspent. And you know,
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I have actually an interview that's up on my rumble
page under Rose Unplugged that I did with a woman
who gave us some examples of the us AID misspending.
It was atrocious. It's absolutely atrocious. You might want to
check that out. But anyway, Alan, thank you for the call.
You're absolutely right about all of that. Don't hold your breath, though.
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I don't think anyone's going to tell me did a
good job, even though they may secretly think they are
happy about some of the results of the good work
that he's done. John calling from Mississippi. Hey, John, Hello, Rose, Hello,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I'm fine. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
But you said someone to kind of pop you up
and a news was too true, but you said it.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
The way you said it really really made a difference
for me, and that was that what makes the United
States great and unique was that these guys two hundred
years ago sat down and said, you know, the government
doesn't own us. That was a breakthrough in thinking, because
up until that point throughout human history, the government owned
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the people, or at least that's what they wanted them
to believe. But these guys had the moxie to say, no,
that isn't true, and we're going to put our lives
on the line for that. And I mean I've heard
all that before, but it's never occurred to me quite
so clearly that that is what other nations hate about us,
and it's what makes us great, thank.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You, John.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And it's what scares them too, the leaders of other nations,
particularly when you talk about communists or socialist nations, that
scares them because the power in the hands of the
people man, that is that is something to be reckoned with.
And they know that. But so do the progressives too.
They don't want that. And the thing that I love
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about our founding fathers is they believe because they came, John,
from a country, from a land that dictated to them
who they could be, what they could do, how they
needed to worship. But see these men, because I believe
of their faith, because of their faith definitely that they
understood that there was greatness in every one of us,
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greatness because that is how God made us. And the
only thing that would unleash them greatness would be freedom.
And that's what everybody's afraid of, and they shouldn't be,
because when you allow that freedom, and you allow that greatness,
and you allow us to work out that American dream,
that is powerful, that is success and and tyrants all
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throughout history, as you just mentioned, have wanted to squelch that.
They wanted to hold that back because then they would
not have the control that they've had. Our funding fathers
believed that God was the author of our freedom, not man,
because if it were man, John, then man can take
it away. And they so much believed in this experiment,
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this America, and they were they were It was perfect.
I mean it really was in so many ways. Did
it have some flaws, yes, But I mean there is
no other government. Do you know anyone else that has
a constitution like ours? And you know why they don't, John,
because then it would be handing the power to the people,
and like you said, they can't have it.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They can't.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
God bless our founders. I just pray that there are
enough of us that continue to preserve this republic and
understand because John, nobody is teaching our children this.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
No one. I learned it, but they're not learning it.
Thank you, You're welcome. Sorry I went off on tangent,
but thank you for your call. Tom.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You're calling from Texas. You want to talk about China?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yes, maam, thanks for taking my call. Rose. I wanted
to say that you know this ninety. First of all,
I really love what Trump is doing with these tariffs.
I love, you know, everything in general that he's doing
with it. But the ninety day pause with China is
totally lopsided in China's favor because there's got to be
a million containers cargo ships sitting on containers waiting me
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checked into port that have been avoiding the tariffs for
who knows how long, and as soon as we reset
this ninety pause or sup sinety pause, it's all going
to get checked in. They're going to avoid the teriffs. Meanwhile,
we probably have nothing on the water waiting to be
checked into China, and there's not enough time to manufacture
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something schedule shipping, get it over to China unloaded in
ninety days. So it's totally totally imbalanced in China's favor
for this, for this ninety day pause. And if Ji
Jinping honors his word, then everything's fine. We can give
him this pass. But if he doesn't, Trump has to
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be punitive and hurt him even more than you, and
he already has the ability to do.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I think you make a really good point. I do
trust Trump to know what to do next. I do
I didn't see any other president doing as much as
he did where this is concerned before him. But I
do have to believe that he's aware because he's a
pretty smart guy and he's a pretty strategic guy. So
I'm with you, though there's a part of me that
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just doesn't trust China and if what Gordon Chang is true,
and I have every reason to believe that it is,
that they're already telling their people a different story, which
doesn't surprise me at all of China's concerned.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But Tom, thank you for your call. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yes, man, thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
We'll be getting to more of your phone calls coming up.
It's eight hundred ninety four one Sean, that's eight hundred
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It's now the Golf of America. Did you know that
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So now Mexico's suing Google. Trump, it just cracks me up.
He really does. I mean, there's no end to just
me just saying Wow, didn't see that one coming. Wow,
that was that was pretty good. He's amazing. So anyway,
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I'll be with you for another hour yet, so you know,
I hope that's okay with you, but if it isn't,
too bad, I'm here. And I wanted to bring Linda
in because first of all, I thought Linda was Italian
by marriage, but now she tells me. She had this
like Italian what I ant or grandmother or what?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
She was my grandma Evelyn Jana.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
She was your Nona, she was, but.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
We called her grandma. Yes, I had a mama, had
a grandma. She was my grandma.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
But she you know, she.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Loved me, but she kicked the crap out everybody else.
She didn't take any prisoners. I think she was afraid
of you. That's why she didn't. She definitely was not
afraid of meid Man, she told me everything, I know,
as far as that goes.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I mean, she was man.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I can see the Italian in you. I really can't.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Oh, anyway, Linda, I watched on Netflix just last night
that movie called Nona's Oh my God.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
It is based on a true story, right, and it's
that it is this Maria, this restaurant that's in Stanton
Island or on Stanton Island. But they had all nonahs
cooking for them. So it's based on this true story.
But Lynn, I was watching and crying, So I don't know,
can you really say that you loved something if you
cried through the whole thing?
Speaker 10 (27:07):
I mean, yeah, you know, I lived through four years
of Joe Biden I love America, but I cried every day.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
So I love America, but I cried. I got through it.
It was fine. You know, it was painful to watch.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
That was painful, but you know, Nona's looks amazing. Obviously,
Staten Island. My husband's from Stanton Island. I lived on
Staten Island in Sunnyside and my we still have family
in Staten Island. And he literally said to me the
other day, he was like, oh, we got to watch
this movie, and I said, what is it?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
He goes, It's a.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Lot of town on Netflix, and Vince One's in it.
We love Vince One. I saw Susan Sarandon's in it.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I hate her. She's a liberal lunatic, so she can
take it, you know. And then where the Sun Don't Shine.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
But I love it. She was fabulous.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Though.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
They love Loreene Brocco.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah she's a doll.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But you know, if they were talking about it made
me think of Sunday dinners with my grandmother. And it
was just such a production because you know, we didn't
just have like meat and potatoes and maybe a v
no no no where she's all the pizza, then the
pots that all homemade then there was chicken katcha torri.
Then there were the cheese is always wine, lots of cookies,
the nots, the pizzales. And I just cried because I
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missed those days, Linda, I missed those days.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I really do. Did you know those things?
Speaker 5 (28:18):
We?
Speaker 10 (28:18):
You know, true true Italians make big Sunday dinners. You know,
like Lauren who you know who married my brother. Her
family still does Sunday dinners and we try to do
it with our family. I think the difference between the
families of Yester and the families of today is we
just don't make that time for family. That's the biggest problem,
right which a lot of times we live in different places,
(28:39):
different states, you know, what have you, and it's very
very difficult. I personally feel like, you know, like with
our kids, you know, when we're at the table, we're
having dinner, whatever it is, there's no phones, the TV's
are off. We'll play music, but that's about it. But
we're you know, we're definitely engaged in the dinner, in
hearing about each other's days. That's what's missing in today's families.
They just don't have that. And that's why you're right,
(29:01):
this crap happens with their kids. They're like, oh, I
had no idea this was going on. I'm like, yeah,
because you were asleep at the switch. You were watching
what was going on on X or Instagram or the
parents are as bad as the kids, you know it
really are to get off the devices and back into reality.
It's very interesting when you're engaged. Get off your devices.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I love that. But there, I don't know how much
time we have, bet real quick.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
There was a story about butter that Anthony and you've
disagreed on, and I actually, did.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
You remember do you keep does Anthony like his butter
on the counter or in the refrigera.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
They like their butter and the refrigerator, And I keep
my butter on the counter where it belongs because nobody
old butter.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't know why I just thought of that right now.
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I like, we want to hear what you think.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
So you got to call in eight hundred nine four seawan,
that's eight hundred and ninety four one seven three two six.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Let us know where what you think?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Where do you keep your butter?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
You keep it on the counter, keep it in the fridge,
inquiring mine pass it?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
And that butter can stay on the counter for ages. Seriously,
that's in my house anyway.
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Well, welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name
is Rose. Sean is traveling with the President on his
Middle East tour. You can hear all about it as
he weighs in every night on his TV show Live
from the Middle East in the meantime. My name is Rose,
as I said, and joining me today, is the author
of several books, some of which are planned read China's
(00:22):
Going to War and also The Coming Collapse of China
and the Great US China Tech War. And I have
read some of these books. I've always had to listen
to what he's had to say about China. He's an
expert in my opinion. His name is Gordon Chang. He's
a former United States Trade representative. He's joining us today
to talk about what happened with the talks between the
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US and China this weekend in Switzerland. Please welcome to
the show, Gordon Chang.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm fine, Rose, and thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
If anyone wants to keep up with what's going on,
particularly where China is Concer learned, you can check Gordon
out at Gordon g Chang on x SO. Mister Chang,
there's a lot going on right now. Everybody's telling us
that the talks in Switzerland over the weekend were substantial
in terms of progress. The Chinese Vice Premier said it
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was an important first step toward resolving differences. China is
America's third largest trading partner. But what we are looking
at right now is hopefully setting a path for future
discussions on open market access for American exports, because in
my opinion, that's one of the most important things. But
there were a lot of things that they were hoping
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for in this meeting. They were hoping that they could
achieve to de escalate tensions with China. They wanted to
create a level playing field. They wanted to rebuild their
strategic industries that have been actually hollowed out in the past.
Retrade not fair trade. There a whole bunch of things
that they wanted to accomplish. What, in fact, in your opinion,
did they achieve and how realistic were those goals in
(02:01):
the first place, so great questions.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
What happened was a temporary concession by the United States
ninety day pause on tariffs, and at the end of
that we will see if China is as good as
its word. President Trump today said the Chinese agreed to
open their economy to American products. This is something that
Americans have wanted for centuries, actually, and it's something we
(02:26):
thought we'd get with China's accession to the World Trade
Organization in two thousand and one. But China's continued the
theft of US intellectual property and increasingly we see China's
trade policy is becoming more and more predatory. So we're
going to see if the Treasury Secretary can negotiate a
(02:48):
larger trade deal. So at the moment, US tariffs have
been dropped and the Chinese have dropped tariffs as well,
and it's sort of like a temporary truce.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, you know, and you touched.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
On something too, because we've had a massive trade deficit
where China is concerned, and it concerns me too for
our manufacturing sector because there's been a decline and all
they do is really fuel the offshoring of American jobs.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So my hope, and I'm not sure why do I
feel a little like.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Cautious going forward with this because I'm not sure I
trust them. I mean, isn't it in their best interest
as well? I'm talking about China. The Communist Party isn't
it in their best interest to follow through on some
of these things that were discussed over the.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Weekend, Well, yes, it is. The reason is the Chinese
economy is fundamentally unbalanced. Consumption accounts for something like thirty
eight thirty nine percent of China's gross domestic product. That
is low by global standards, perhaps maybe even the lowest contribution. Now,
Sijan Pain is developing a wartime economy. He wants to
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export his way out of problems. Of fact, that's his
only solution, which means he needs the US. Now, the
problem is that cijmping is building up a war machine
which is configured to kill Americans, and so we might
have an interest in not trading with him in order
to make sure he doesn't have the resources to go
build those ships and train the tanks and everything else
(04:20):
that he wants to use against us and our friends.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, and that concerns me very much because when we
talk about, first of all, their economy, it isn't it's
not doing well. And in fact, how does the worker's
protest play into it? Because it takes a lot of
hutzpot if you asked me to protest in China, right, So,
how surprised was the CCP buy that, and did the
protest actually persuade the party one way or another.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Particularly where all of this is concerned.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I imagine that the worker protests across China and also
the bank protests because I think depositors are not being
able to get their mon out of some of the
smaller financial institutions. This must have had a factor in
the decisions of the Communist Party to talk to treasure
Secretary Bessant and US Trade representative Career right now. These protests, actually,
(05:15):
these protests have been occurring even before Trump took the
oath of office for a second term, but they've gotten
worse because the tariffs have slammed China's exports sector, which
has been particularly hard hit for our last year and
a half. Maybe we're seeing that a lot of these
factories don't have orders, but these tariffs have pushed some
of these factories to the point of closure, and there
(05:37):
are closures across China, and they're more and more worker protests.
As you point out, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
When you think about it, I mean, yeah, we're talking
about the Communist Chinese Party, but we're also talking about
real people who are also being affected by it, not
because of anything we've done, obviously, but because of the
way their government is run.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And that breaks my heart for them.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It does because the biggest victims of the Communist Party,
matter of fact, and most immediate victims are of course
the Chinese people, but there are a lot of other
victims of the Communist Party, including American workers, because through
these predatory practices, through ip theft, China has robbed the
future of many Americans. You drive through the Rust Belt,
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you drive through the South, there are a lot of
towns that have been devastated by the loss of factories
to China, and that means when there's a loss of hope,
you see fentanyl. When you see fentanyl, there is death.
China is responsible for the fentanyl gangs. And that's also
a factor that President Trump is taken into account when
he set the trade policy. Because twenty percent of our
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thirty percent terriffs are were imposed this year because of fentanyl.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That's right, and one of the things and they have,
but they didn't make anything. There's nothing conclusive that came
out of these talks where fentanyl is concerned. They said
that they're going to take that the US and China
will take aggressive actions to stem the flow of fentanyl
and other precursors from China to ilictit drug producers in
North America. So but there's nothing substantial here just yet
(07:13):
in terms of what actions they are going to take
and with those aggressive, aggressive accent actions might actually produce yes.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
And let's remember this is cagym Ping who promised in
twenty twenty three to President Biden to stop the flow
of precursors across the Pacific. This is the Segimping in
twenty eighteen that made the same essentially the same promise
through President Trump. And it's the same seagem thing who
made the same promise to President Obama in twenty sixteen.
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So we've had a lot of promises from China about fentanyl.
We've only seen the fentanyl trade increase and there's only
been a stop where there's been a reduction in the
flow of fentanyl, not because of what the Chinese have
been doing, but because President Trump closed down the southern
border and he went after a candidate where there was
a lot of fentanyl coming in from as well.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath on that one,
but it'll be interesting to see. I mean, we are
talking about different leadership here, so that should help us
and these efforts for sure. And also I just want
to comment to you mentioned how we want to encourage
our you know, domestic production here and strengthen our supply chains.
And I suppose that when they talk about retaining that
ten percent tariff during the period of pause, that that
(08:25):
will help us. So instead of undercutting American workers, it
would instead support them.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, well, it's a thirty percent general tariff rate, but
also we have additional tariffs on top of that road
so for instance, well.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yes, thirty four pot yeah, you're right, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
We have the Section two thirty two tariffs, and those
uncertain goods raised that general thirty percent tariff rate to
quite a high rate.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know, there's something that you mentioned on X and
by the way, we're talking to Gordon Chang and you
can find him on Exit's Gordon g Chang on X.
But I think I saw this on AX. You said
that while and Career are making soothing statements about the
results of the trade talks, China's officials are issuing strident
and defiant words on Chinese language media.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
That doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
No, this was yesterday, right after the announcement that there
was going to be an announcement today, and we saw,
you know, we saw our officials make conservatory statements, but
Chinese officials are making very defiant ones to the Chinese.
And I haven't seen anything since President Trump's conference today,
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but I'm sure we're going to see a whole group
of a whole flew of new pronouncements from Beijing which
are probably as strident as the ones twenty four hours ago.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, that begs the question, why, mister Chang, why the
defiant words? I mean, they have a enemy that's that's
taken a fall, they have workers that have been protesting,
and yet they will, they will get on Chinese language
media and have this defiant conversation for the good. I mean,
(10:13):
like the only reason they're doing this is to somehow
what for their own people, for the Chinese people? What
is the goal here? What's the plan? I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah. For about a half decade, C. Jimping has been trying,
has been saying to the Chinese people that China has
already surpassed the US, that the US is in terminal decline,
that China doesn't need the US except in very limited areas.
So when China goes to a third party location such
as Switzerland and negotiates with the US, they got to
(10:46):
come up with some sort of explanation, and their explanation
has been, well, yeah, we're not going to bow down
to the Americans, which is a phrase that they often use,
and they're probably going to say that they got the
better of the deal, which they did in a sense,
and they are going to make that case. That basically
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underlines Sijian Thing's authority and legitimacy, because if China can't
appear to need the US, it can't appear to be
getting into pressure from President Trump, which is what the
Chinese in a sense did, So they've got to be
defiant in their propaganda.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Well, you know, in China, I mean, let's face it.
I mean the truth is, nothing really has changed their
goals and their mindset. I mean, they would like to
dominate as much as possible. And don't forget too that
we've seen over recent years how they've been forming those
unholy alliances with countries like Russia and Iran.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Is that going to change just because we're entering into
this agreement where tariffs are concerned.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
No, it's not going to change. Sijian Thing has been
pushing the notion that China not only should control the world,
should not only dominate the world, should not only exert
hegemony over the world, but it should rule the world.
He's been pushing this notion that Chinese rulers have the
mandate of Heaven to rule what they call t Andcu.
We're all under heaven, and if we think it's just
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limited to planet Earth. Since twenty seventeen, Chinese officials have
been making the case in public that the Moon and
Mars should be considered sovereign Chinese territory, in other words,
part of the People's republic. So yeah, it's ludicrous, but
we can't ignore what these guys are saying because this
is not normal competition. As the Bid administration said, this
(12:37):
is an attempt to revolutionize the world by imposing worldwide
Chinese rule. And of course, we do not consider ourselves
to be a colony of China, but China that they
consider us to be subservient and a colony to the
greater Celestial Court in Beiji.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You know, I think this is just my opinion, because
what do I know I'm not at on this, but
it seems to me that they're like, yeah, okay, we're
gonna we'll go ahead with this, We're gonna work with you,
while behind the scenes they're still kind of preparing, as
you say in your book, for war and also to
sanction proof itself. So I think while both of these
(13:16):
things are true, for the time being, they may appear
to be working with us, and we only have like
two minutes here for you to answer that, but really
they're still working some other things out that fallow more
in line with their agenda that you just spoke of.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah. Absolutely, they believe that they're in an existential struggle
with the United States, and for us, it's not because
of anything we say or do, but because of who
we are and insecure regime in Beijing is worried about
the inspirational impact of America's values in form of governance
on the Chinese people, which means we will never have
amicable relations with China as long as the Communist Party
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rules it.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
That's all right, thank you, and I have to let
you go right now. I'm still sorry. But Gordon Chang,
author of the Coming Collapse of China, also check him out.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Gordon G.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Chang on X. Thank you mister Change for joining me today.
Very important subject.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Thank you well, thank you Roch.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
My name is Rose.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I'm going to say thank you to WJAS here in
Pittsburgh for allowing me to use their studios, and to
Greg and Darryl here who have just done a great
job getting me set up. And of course there's always Lynda,
Ethan and Katie. So thanks to all of you. It's
my pleasure to be sitting in for Sean today. I'll
be doing it again on Friday, looking forward to that
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
And your phone calls.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
The phone number here is eight hundred ninety four to
one Sean eight hundred ninety four one seven three two six.
On the phone is Jay from Delaware. Hey Jay, how
are you doing?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Good?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Afternoon? Doing well? A lot of things in the on
the headlines today that you know, hopefully we got some
good deals coming with China, and you know there's this,
you know, if everybody just let the man do his work,
I think we're all going to be happy with the result.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
We were the last time he did it, you know, yeah, right, yeah,
So you know, for days.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
It's just incredible.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I know he comes across a little bit krass.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
If you will, But if if the if people just
let him do his work and let his cabin do
his work, I think they're gonna be really satisfy. You
got the prescription drugs coming down, you got a possible
blockbuster deal with China that's going to steamroll into all
kinds of positive things for economy, border security. I mean,
this is I've never seen anything like it. I hope
(15:36):
you know your network's uh cover positive tonight on this.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Don't hold your don't hold your breath, Jay, come on,
you know you just reminded me of something though, And
there was something I didn't meant. I was talking about
the Federalist papers early on, and one of the things
I didn't mention was what was written in the papers
about strong leadership and as it relates to a president.
One of the things that Alexander Hamilton said in those
papers is that energy in the executive is a leading
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character in the definition of good government. It's essential to
the protection of the community against foreign attacks. But he
also said this, and I think this is so telling.
He said, a feeble executive feeble. Remind you of anyone
four years four years? A feeble executive implies a feeble
execution of the government. A feeble execution is but another
(16:26):
phrase for bad execution. And the government ill executed. Whatever
it may be in theory, must be in practice a
bad government. Can anyone say the Biden administration when we
say feeble? Truer words, mister Hamilton, truer words. Jay, Thanks
for that reminder. I wanted to bring that up. And
thanks for your call today too. I appreciate it. Alan
(16:46):
is calling from North Carolina. Hey, Alan, how are you?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (16:51):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Rose good?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Can you can you hear me?
Speaker 9 (16:55):
Good?
Speaker 8 (16:55):
You're doing a great job. I just wanted to bring
up the point that here lately, with all of Trump's deportations,
they're wanting to cry out that these people are have
the right to do process. And I think Obama was
called the deporter in chief, and I'm not sure of
the number, but Bill Clinton also deported millions of people.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
And did they.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Either of those presidents, did they have due process for
any of the or hearings for any of the people
that they deported.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well, you bring up a good point because I saw
your name up there and description of what you wanted
to talk about. I did a quick search and in
one year alone, twenty thirteen, that's all the further I
had time for. They're under Obama. There were four hundred
and thirty eight, four hundred and twenty one Depoor did so. Yeah,
I mean, you're absolutely right, no one. I mean I
think that he did actually get some criticism at the time,
(17:50):
not from anyone on the right, but I think there
were some that were concerned about that. But no, he
absolutely was doing that without the same criticisms that we're
getting or we hear, well, they're always going to find
something wrong with Donald Trump. It's never going to end.
And you know, the thing that blows my mind, Alan
is that we see such great success when when we
(18:11):
see what Doge is uncovered that alone, and taking that
back to what I said in my monologue about overreach
of the government and just you would think people would say, bravo,
bravo Donald Trump. I hate you, but bravo, that was
great because it's their money that's being misspent. And you know,
(18:31):
I have actually an interview that's up on my rumble
page under Rose Unplugged that I did with a woman
who gave us some examples of the us AID misspending.
It was atrocious. It's absolutely atrocious. You might want to
check that out. But anyway, Alan, thank you for the call.
You're absolutely right about all of that. Don't hold your breath, though.
(18:52):
I don't think anyone's going to tell me did a
good job, even though they may secretly think they are
happy about some of the results of the good work
that he's done. John calling from Mississippi. Hey, John, Hello, Rose, Hello,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I'm fine. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
But you said someone to kind of pop you up
and a news was too true, but you said it.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
The way you said it really really made a difference
for me, and that was that what makes the United
States great and unique was that these guys two hundred
years ago sat down and said, you know, the government
doesn't own us. That was a breakthrough in thinking, because
up until that point throughout human history, the government owned
(19:48):
the people, or at least that's what they wanted them
to believe. But these guys had the moxie to say, no,
that isn't true, and we're going to put our lives
on the line for that. And I mean I've heard
all that before, but it's never occurred to me quite
so clearly that that is what other nations hate about us,
and it's what makes us great, thank.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You, John.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And it's what scares them too, the leaders of other nations,
particularly when you talk about communists or socialist nations, that
scares them because the power in the hands of the
people man, that is that is something to be reckoned with.
And they know that. But so do the progressives too.
They don't want that. And the thing that I love
(20:33):
about our founding fathers is they believe because they came, John,
from a country, from a land that dictated to them
who they could be, what they could do, how they
needed to worship. But see these men, because I believe
of their faith, because of their faith definitely that they
understood that there was greatness in every one of us,
(20:55):
greatness because that is how God made us. And the
only thing that would unleash them greatness would be freedom.
And that's what everybody's afraid of, and they shouldn't be,
because when you allow that freedom, and you allow that greatness,
and you allow us to work out that American dream,
that is powerful, that is success and and tyrants all
(21:18):
throughout history, as you just mentioned, have wanted to squelch that.
They wanted to hold that back because then they would
not have the control that they've had. Our funding fathers
believed that God was the author of our freedom, not man,
because if it were man, John, then man can take
it away. And they so much believed in this experiment,
(21:41):
this America, and they were they were It was perfect.
I mean it really was in so many ways. Did
it have some flaws, yes, But I mean there is
no other government. Do you know anyone else that has
a constitution like ours? And you know why they don't, John,
because then it would be handing the power to the people,
and like you said, they can't have it.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They can't.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
God bless our founders. I just pray that there are
enough of us that continue to preserve this republic and
understand because John, nobody is teaching our children this.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
No one. I learned it, but they're not learning it.
Thank you, You're welcome. Sorry I went off on tangent,
but thank you for your call. Tom.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You're calling from Texas. You want to talk about China?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yes, maam, thanks for taking my call. Rose. I wanted
to say that you know this ninety. First of all,
I really love what Trump is doing with these tariffs.
I love, you know, everything in general that he's doing
with it. But the ninety day pause with China is
totally lopsided in China's favor because there's got to be
a million containers cargo ships sitting on containers waiting me
(22:51):
checked into port that have been avoiding the tariffs for
who knows how long, and as soon as we reset
this ninety pause or sup sinety pause, it's all going
to get checked in. They're going to avoid the teriffs. Meanwhile,
we probably have nothing on the water waiting to be
checked into China, and there's not enough time to manufacture
(23:12):
something schedule shipping, get it over to China unloaded in
ninety days. So it's totally totally imbalanced in China's favor
for this, for this ninety day pause. And if Ji
Jinping honors his word, then everything's fine. We can give
him this pass. But if he doesn't, Trump has to
(23:33):
be punitive and hurt him even more than you, and
he already has the ability to do.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I think you make a really good point. I do
trust Trump to know what to do next. I do
I didn't see any other president doing as much as
he did where this is concerned before him. But I
do have to believe that he's aware because he's a
pretty smart guy and he's a pretty strategic guy. So
I'm with you, though there's a part of me that
(23:59):
just doesn't trust China and if what Gordon Chang is true,
and I have every reason to believe that it is,
that they're already telling their people a different story, which
doesn't surprise me at all of China's concerned.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But Tom, thank you for your call. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yes, man, thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
We'll be getting to more of your phone calls coming up.
It's eight hundred ninety four one Sean, that's eight hundred
nine four one seven three two six. You know, we
were talking about Trump, and you know, he just he
amazes me. Well, you know how he wants to call it.
It's now the Golf of America. Did you know that
Mexico is suing the technology company Google for adopting United
(24:38):
States labeling of the Golf of Mexico Because if you
do a search, it does come up as Golf of America.
So now Mexico's suing Google. Trump, it just cracks me up.
He really does. I mean, there's no end to just
me just saying Wow, didn't see that one coming. Wow,
that was that was pretty good. He's amazing. So anyway,
this is a Sean Handedy show.
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Speaker 4 (25:55):
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Speaker 1 (25:56):
I'll be with you for another hour yet, so you know,
I hope that's okay with you, but if it isn't,
too bad, I'm here. And I wanted to bring Linda
in because first of all, I thought Linda was Italian
by marriage, but now she tells me. She had this
like Italian what I ant or grandmother or what?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
She was my grandma Evelyn Jana.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
She was your Nona, she was, but.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
We called her grandma. Yes, I had a mama, had
a grandma. She was my grandma.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
But she you know, she.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Loved me, but she kicked the crap out everybody else.
She didn't take any prisoners. I think she was afraid
of you. That's why she didn't. She definitely was not
afraid of meid Man, she told me everything, I know,
as far as that goes.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I mean, she was man.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I can see the Italian in you. I really can't.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Oh, anyway, Linda, I watched on Netflix just last night
that movie called Nona's Oh my God.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
It is based on a true story, right, and it's
that it is this Maria, this restaurant that's in Stanton
Island or on Stanton Island. But they had all nonahs
cooking for them. So it's based on this true story.
But Lynn, I was watching and crying, So I don't know,
can you really say that you loved something if you
cried through the whole thing?
Speaker 10 (27:07):
I mean, yeah, you know, I lived through four years
of Joe Biden I love America, but I cried every day.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
So I love America, but I cried. I got through it.
It was fine. You know, it was painful to watch.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
That was painful, but you know, Nona's looks amazing. Obviously,
Staten Island. My husband's from Stanton Island. I lived on
Staten Island in Sunnyside and my we still have family
in Staten Island. And he literally said to me the
other day, he was like, oh, we got to watch
this movie, and I said, what is it?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
He goes, It's a.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Lot of town on Netflix, and Vince One's in it.
We love Vince One. I saw Susan Sarandon's in it.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I hate her. She's a liberal lunatic, so she can
take it, you know. And then where the Sun Don't Shine.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
But I love it. She was fabulous.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Though.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
They love Loreene Brocco.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah she's a doll.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But you know, if they were talking about it made
me think of Sunday dinners with my grandmother. And it
was just such a production because you know, we didn't
just have like meat and potatoes and maybe a v
no no no where she's all the pizza, then the
pots that all homemade then there was chicken katcha torri.
Then there were the cheese is always wine, lots of cookies,
the nots, the pizzales. And I just cried because I
(28:13):
missed those days, Linda, I missed those days.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I really do. Did you know those things?
Speaker 5 (28:18):
We?
Speaker 10 (28:18):
You know, true true Italians make big Sunday dinners. You know,
like Lauren who you know who married my brother. Her
family still does Sunday dinners and we try to do
it with our family. I think the difference between the
families of Yester and the families of today is we
just don't make that time for family. That's the biggest problem,
right which a lot of times we live in different places,
(28:39):
different states, you know, what have you, and it's very
very difficult. I personally feel like, you know, like with
our kids, you know, when we're at the table, we're
having dinner, whatever it is, there's no phones, the TV's
are off. We'll play music, but that's about it. But
we're you know, we're definitely engaged in the dinner, in
hearing about each other's days. That's what's missing in today's families.
They just don't have that. And that's why you're right,
(29:01):
this crap happens with their kids. They're like, oh, I
had no idea this was going on. I'm like, yeah,
because you were asleep at the switch. You were watching
what was going on on X or Instagram or the
parents are as bad as the kids, you know it
really are to get off the devices and back into reality.
It's very interesting when you're engaged. Get off your devices.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I love that. But there, I don't know how much
time we have, bet real quick.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
There was a story about butter that Anthony and you've
disagreed on, and I actually, did.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
You remember do you keep does Anthony like his butter
on the counter or in the refrigera.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
They like their butter and the refrigerator, And I keep
my butter on the counter where it belongs because nobody
old butter.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't know why I just thought of that right now.
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I like, we want to hear what you think.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
So you got to call in eight hundred nine four seawan,
that's eight hundred and ninety four one seven three two six.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Let us know where what you think?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Where do you keep your butter?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
You keep it on the counter, keep it in the fridge,
inquiring mine pass it?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
And that butter can stay on the counter for ages. Seriously,
that's in my house anyway.
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