April 14, 2025 • 28 mins
Gordon Chang, author of The Coming Collapse of China and The Great U.S.-China Tech War and Former United States Trade Representative joins us to talk about tariffs and the reaction of China.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Showing up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload hour.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
News Roundup and Information Overload Hour toll free. Our number
is eight hundred and nine to four one sean if
you want to be a part of the program, as
we have been going in a great specificity in detail.
Now we have one hundred and thirty countries that are
seeking either free and fair trade deals. I would imagine
most of them want that, or they'll be reciprocal tariffs.
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We see the Trump effect with Navidia announcing that they
will produce AI supercomputers entirely in the US for the
first time and produce five hundred billion of AI infrastructure
in the US over the next four years, which is
a big deal, much to the surprise of many. America's
largest retailer, biggest box store if you will, Walmart, says
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it does not expect that Trump tariffs will negatively impact
their sales growth and are there going to be some
complications difficulty, Yeah, absolutely, And while I do believe these
one hundred and thirty countries, I think I would expect
and anticipate at some point there's going to be deal
after deal after deal that is going to be signed
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by the President and I think that's going to be
good for Americans. We have been ripped off taking advantage
of frankly abused, and have allowed ourselves to be such
for all of these years. As I mentioned earlier in
the program, Victor Davis Hansen had a lot of good
points in his column today. And you know, you know,
let's ignore the fact that, well, you know, why is
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Wall Street panicking? Their latest jobs report went through the
roof that they didn't expect, or the inflation rate dropped
to its lowest level in four years. They worried about
Trump's impending tax cuts, deregulation, greater budget cuts, which even
a novice on Wall Street would know is good for
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the economy. But if the US is running a sixty
three billion dollar trade surplus with Kenada, you've got to
ask some serious, significant, real questions. You know, I brought
up the issue earlier today. You know, why are US
cars pretty much frozen out of the European market? Why
does the EU have car sales in the US totaling
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forty three point nine billion dollars versus sales of American
cars of only eight point nine billion. Well we've gone
into that in detail. A ten percent terriff versus our
two and a half percent tariff, and of course they're
twenty percent vattax. That's thirty percent increase to the sticker
price of any automobile we're selling there. Now we have
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over seven trillion I guess now seven and a half
trillion with Navidio today. That is being committed. But this
is separate and apart from what President She is going
to do in China. Clearly, Donald Trump has gotten his attention,
and President She apparently is going on an Asia trade blitz,
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according to reports visiting Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia seeking to stabilize
China's trade ties, and their commerce minister arguing this week
that Trump tariffs and flicks serious harm on developing nations. Meanwhile,
most of those countries are already at the point of
wanting to deal with President Trump and negotiate trade deals
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with US. And so anyway we're going to we'll see
what happens. And with China, I still believe that they
will need access to our markets and if they can
continue to ratchet up a trade war, Donald Trump's not
going to back down on China. Is he more open
and willing to negotiate with our allies and partner shore.
But again, the choice is going to be free and
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fair trade versus reciprocal trade. But the choice will be yours.
Here's the President sounding the alarm about how during the
Biden years we lost trillions of dollars because they allowed
China to take advantage of us, rip us off, and
abuse us. Here's what he said, with.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
The greatest economic power in the world, if we're smart,
if we're not smart, we're going to hurt our country
very badly. We lost with China over the Biden years
trillions of dollars on trade, trillions of dollars, and he
let them fleece us. And we can't do that anymore.
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And you know what, I don't blame China at all.
I don't blame President She I like him, he likes me.
I mean, you know, they trunos. Who the hell cares you.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Know.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Let me just tell you this. I don't blame China.
I don't blame Vietnam.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I see the meeting today and that wonderful.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That's a lovely meeting.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Meeting like trying to figure out how do we screw
the United States of Americas Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Now the question is what happens now with China and
is President She able to Is he able to find
access to enough other markets and work out trade deals,
because if you look at the list, and I've scrolled
it on television and I've mentioned it on radio, I
just it would take me the rest of the show
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to list every single item that China puts a tariff
on on the US. Are they going to be open
to free and fair trade or just will it be
reciprocal tarifsts. That's going to be up to President She,
But I think at the end of the day that
he's going to need access to our markets anyway. Gordon Chang,
author of The Coming Collapse of China and the Great
US China Tech War, and he actually put up on
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x what President She will do when the sun rises
in Beijing is a question mark. He has no good
options because the more he retaliates, the more he undermines
his faltering economy. And by the way, the Chinese currency's
never been worse than where it is now. Their economy
is struggling. The only thing they've really invested in that
should concern Americans is in their military might. Anyway. Gordon Chang.
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Welcome back to the program.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Thank you so much. Sean.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
All right, let's get your assessment on this. Knowing and
having studied President she as you have, well.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
The Chinese are in a very difficult place. First of all,
their economy is spiraling down. We see this from the
price data for March, which shows deflation. They're having their
two thousand and eight crisis now, Sean. In two thousand
and eight, they didn't want a recession, so they overstimulated
their economy, took on too much debt. Now they've got
to deal with all of that debt, and you have
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the plunging property market and failing local governments, and then
all of a sudden, President Trump says, I'm dealing with
the terriff issue. So I don't know what means that
they have. I mean, you mentioned that they're going to
try to sell more to other countries, but that's going
to be really difficult because our market is the most
important to them. They got the world's biggest consumer market
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can't be replaced. The only thing that Cijmping can do,
and which is what he's trying to do right now,
is to mobilize political opinion in the United States to
put pressure on President Trump. And I don't think Trump
is going to back down, as you say, because Trump
really believes what he's doing. He knows it's important, he
knows that this is it, and so I think he's
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going to stand.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Firm one hundred and thirty countries that want to do deals.
He certainly's gotten the world the world's attention. The only
thing I might have a slight warrior concern about is
I think everybody understands we've been ripped off and taken
advantage of, and it's gone on for fifty sixty years,
and I think that's one of the reasons why these
countries are so amenable to dealing with them. But back
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to China, I believe it, and at the end of
the day, President she will be practical, and the practical
answer is going to be okay. Donald Trump's going to
be in office four years. The impact on the Chinese
economy is incalculable in terms of the amount of money
and the amount of product that they send into this country.
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So I would expect and anticipate a deal at some point,
probably a summit down the road. Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I hope you're right. The problem is that Cjping has
considered the Chinese political system so that only the most
hostile answers are considered acceptable, which means and at least
in the short and intermediate term, he's not going to
pick up the phone. Now, picking up the phone to
talk to President Trump would be the rational thing to do,
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but I think he's boxed himself in. So yes, I
think long term the Chinese will have to talk to
the United States, but it is going to be a
lot longer than most people want. But by the way,
let's remember that when we did have a trade deal
with President with President Trump and General Secretary of Signping,
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it was a loser for us. That was the Phase
one trade deal of January twenty twenty. The Chinese immediately
violated it. So you know, we've got a long way
to go before we can get a trade deal which
actually means something.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
What do you mean by they violated? How did they
violate it?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
They had purchase commitments which were very specific on various
items agricultural and manufactured goods, and they just didn't meet
those commitments. It was very clear that there was no
way that they had actually honored the promises they made
to President Trump.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, well, I just think that, you know, the question
is a matter of pride. Now, the Chinese economy has
been faltering. How bad is it it is?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I think contracting it could be a little bit better
than that, But we know that it's not growing at
the five point zero percent pace that they claimed for
last year. Last year when they claimed five zero, it
was probably one point zero or one point five. Now
there's been very clear deterioration, so they're probably about zero.
And as I mentioned, they're in deflation, both consumer deflation
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and factory deflation, and that means that the economy is
going down very hard to get out of deflation. So
I don't know what they're going to do short of
going to war, as you suggested.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Okay, so let's talk about this. They obviously have a
massive population. They have built up the military. Do you
believe they have surpassed America's military capabilities? They have hypersonics,
we don't. For example, however, we have more nuclear weapons
with more delivery systems than they do, which would be
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mutually assured destruction. Is President Chief suicidal? I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, I don't think so, though. I think he is
a much lower threshold of risk because right now he's
being blamed for all of China's problems, which means that
he is more willing to take risk than we think
he is, so he can take us by surprise. And
your first question, overall, the US military is more capable
than China's. And yes, they've got some weapons and some
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really important weapons that we don't have, the hypersonic cruise
missiles that you mentioned. But remember it's a communist military,
which means that it is not well configured for fighting
a long term more because when you get two reporting lines,
one political one military, where the political one is more
important in the military line, that's no way to run
a war.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Let me ask you a practical question, because there are
so many businesses that rely on cheap goods from China,
whether they're goods to build things here in America or
whether or not you know, for example, the toy industry.
I don't think Americans have an appetite to pay fifty
bucks for a barbie, assuming that toys like that are
made in China. I don't know for sure, but I'm
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just trying to come up with an example. And how
is it going to impact those businesses and jobs here
in America. Now. I love the seven trillion dollars that
seven and a half trillion now that have been committed
in new investment manufacturing, automobile industry, I paying career jobs
for Americans as a result of even the threat of
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President Trump's tariffs. But for the companies that have been
reliant and making money, and there's one, there's one prominent
business guy, I'm not going to mention him now, but
his comments this weekend I found pretty repulse have been disgusting,
you know, predicting an economic doom and gloom for America.
And I just happen to know for a fact that
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a lot of the profit margin of his well big
Wall Street firm has to do with the fact that
they do never ending business in China. So it's a
little bit selfish and self serving on his part as
far as I'm concerned. But we'll get into that maybe
at the right time. Well what do you do? What
do you say to the companies smaller American companies reliant
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on either materials or outright products that they're importing from China.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
They're going to have to move their supply chains to
countries that have better trade environments, and certainly we have
better relations with This has been, you know, clear for
some time that there was going to be increasing trade
friction between China and the United States. So these companies
should have moved their supply chains earlier, and if they didn't,
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they made a grievous mistake because everybody could see this
was coming. So I think that they will do that,
and that means that prices won't spike, or at least
they're not going to stay up for very long because
companies will move factories to countries where the tariff rates
are lower, and that'll be good for US.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Sean Well, I agree, and I think it's going to
be good for American markers as well. And I think,
you know, we already see massive amounts of money being
invested in the country. What do you predict Europe is
going to do.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Europe needs to come to the table with President Trump
and enter into a major trade agreement. This is something
that Biden and his predecessors couldn't do because they were
playing too nice and the Europeans play very, very tough
on trade, as President Trump has said. So I think
that there will be a deal. And the other thing
is I don't think they'll have much of a deal
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with China because China is trying to also enter into
a trade relationship with the twenty seven member nation European Union.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But EU and with the European Union, well, they've been
stupid and in terms of getting their energy resources from Russia.
Would they be stupid enough to move away from the
United States and move towards China.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I don't think so, because they've had a lot of
trade friction with China, and they know how bad China
is and the things that make China a predatory and
criminal trader are not going to be settled by a
trade agreement between the EU and China. Now, as for energy,
President Trump is willing to sell them energy, and if
when we get our export terminals in Louisiana up to speed,
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I think that the Europeans are going to see that
they should be buying American energy rather than Russian energy.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Now it's going to be interesting to watch Gordon Chang.
We appreciate you, Thank you, sir for being with US
eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn, if you want
to be a part of the program, I'm sure most
of you by now have heard Bill Maher's comments. I
actually watched it and it was interesting, but I had
already known what happened. We had Kid Rock on the
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next night. He told us he was there. Dana White
was there, so I didn't think Bill. I don't think
Bill Mar's a liar. I just think. You know, one
interesting thing I think Kid Rock said to Bill Maher is,
you know you donate all this money to Democrats. Did
they ever invite you?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
At one point he even said one of the things
that he really liked about Donald Trump that he and
this was to me was amazing. I wouldn't feel comfortable
talking to Obama or Clinton like I did Trump. I
was able to criticize him and he was fine with it.
And by the way, that's one hundred percent true. And
you know, they found areas of agreement, like on wokeism
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and immigration, and he went into great specificity in details,
not changing who he is, and he was clear about that. Anyway,
here's what Mar had to say Friday night.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
So, Maga fans, don't worry. Your boy gave me nothing,
just hats hats in a very generous amount of time
and a willingness to listen and accept me as a
possible friend. Even though I'm not maga, which was the
point of the dinner. And he said, you know, I've
heard from a lot of people who really liked that
we're having this dinner. Not all, but a lot, And
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I said same. A lot of people told me they
loved it, but not all. And we agreed. The people
who don't even want us to talk, we don't like
you don't talk as opposed to what writing the same
editorial for the millionth time and making twenty five hour
speeches into the wind. Really, that's what liberals have. He
takes the piss out of everybody else and we can
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hold ours. Okay, that's my report. You can hate me
for it, but I'm not a liar. Trump was gracious
and measured. And why he isn't that in other settings
I don't know, and I can't answer, and it's not
my place to answer. I'm just telling you what I saw,
and I wasn't high.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I gotta admit that's pretty funny, Linda. Imagine would there
ever be a moment where Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama or
any of these people whatever. I doubt it. I don't
think that would ever happen.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Definitely not. Maybe you should start, you know, getting high
on all of your shows and trash talking them excessively.
I guess that's what they like. They're massacres.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, he said he didn't go HI. Apparently he wanted
to drink immediately. According to one of my sources, can
I have a drink? It was a little number.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
Sure, it was.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Super stressful for him. I mean it's like you know,
I mean they were just kept breaking his stones. It
was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, I mean, Keith Overmany somewhat has no impact at all.
Just oh my god, it's a constant. Yeah, he lives
in a constant state of rage. By the way, Uh,
don't over analyze mar prostituting himself to Trump. Mar works
for the same pascist at Warner who took over and
corrupted CNN. He goes on and then he's I've known
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Bill since nineteen seventy eight. Is a shameless opportunist with
no real principle. Then and he remained so this is
so he can keep his HBO show. Oh like everybody
at MSDNC Washington Post similar criticism. You don't have to
patronize me, Marsh snapping at this idiot. Washington Post commos
to us he was almost unwatchable. At that point, I
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couldn't even watch it anymore. Gretchen Whitmer. Now this is
a little different situation. Gretchen Whitmer knows that the state
of Michigan is devastated because of the sixty year policy
as it relates to tariffs, and she wants to get
on the right side of the issue because her state
has been decimated. Anyway, eight hundred and ninety four to one, Seawan,
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If you want to be a part of the program.
Guy is a Maryland guy. How are you glad you called?
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Hey, son, thank you so much for taking my call.
I've been listening to you for years. Hey, I got
the best story man. You're gonna love this story. So
I'm a retired teacher and I'm a house painter. Now,
so I bought I bought a sign and I put
on my paint truck. It says my truck identifies as
a Tesla. So I went to this Tesla protest set
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because within on these mills where I live. So I
pull in and first they're smiling at me because I
don't know if they think I may be making front
of tesselas. So I parked in the lot. I get
over and Sean, it's all these old people, mostly white,
all these old guys like me, and there's a few
young guys mixed in. And I said, look, why are
you guys protesting? I mean, you guys have the American dream.
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Maybe you got everything, you don't do without. You've never
had to, like live in a bad neighborhood. What is
going on? Well, they started cursing at me, using all
kinds of foul language. They were calling me a racist.
I said, look, man, I was a coach and a
teacher for forty years. Man, I'm not a racist. I
coached every type of kid you know, a lot of
state champions. I said, what are you guys talking about?
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And they were just cursing and they were blowing the
whistle and one of the one of the young guys
goes up and he says, go ahead, buddy, throw a
punch at me and then I'll kick your butt. I said, man,
I'm not going to hit you. And then they were
really man. They were cursed and swearing. I'll tell you, Sean,
I have never seen such rudeness. And the signs that
they were holding are the same exact signs I saw Apaghettysburg.
So I mean, I think they're being paid to be
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I really do.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Listen, I welcome to my world. I've dealt with this
a lot. I dealt with a lot more when I
was in New York. Unfortunately, it's a major reason why
I left, because I don't want to put myself in
people I love in that situation. Frankly, I don't care.
I don't mind confrontation, never have my entire life. However,
it's not fair to friends, family, co workers, people that
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I care about. I don't want to put them in
this situation. But I deal with these idiots all the time.
And you see how vicious and violent and horrific the
left has become. You know, they praised Luigi Mangioni. I
can't explain that obsession. You heard Taylor Lorenz earlier or
over the weekend. I saw it online somewhere and justifying
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this is the guy that murdered the United Healthcare CEO.
We see what they've been doing at Tesla dealerships, firing
bullets into those dealerships and fire bombs cars and charging stations,
and calls for assassination of Elon Musk. We watched this
weekend in horror, even though he's a Democratic governor. This
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is absolute evil and its domestic terrorism and what they
did to Josh Shapiro's house is appalling and sick and evil,
and all of this is related to the Democratic Party
has embraced this radical pro Hamas wing and their party
and are unwilling to speak out against it. And I mean,
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I feel terrible for his family. But at some point
I hope he comes out very publicly and says the
squad members that have been virulently anti Semitic, and the
other Democrats that have remained silent, and those that have
remained silent about the domestic terrorism on Elon Musk, those
that praise Luigi Mangione need to stop. Anyway, my friend,
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appreciate the call. Penny Utah. Next Sean Hannity Show, What's up, Penny?
How are you?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
I'm great, Sean, and I just want to tell you
that I am grateful for you and for your shows
and thank you. You Just stay in there. I was
calling also now. I told you how great I thought you.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Were, but when you were oh boy, whatever the butt comes,
here comes the criticism. Go ahead and have at it.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Criticism.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
You got it, brother. Okay, Linda names her cars. She
is not the only one. I have always named my car.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
What's the name? What's the name of your car? You
give your car a name? I think that is the
most strange, weird, bizarre thing I've ever heard of my life.
What am I supposed to name my new Tesla? Charlie?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Mollie?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
No, Molly the Mercedes, Molly your Mercedes. So your car
is Molly. Linda, what's the name of your your That
the piece of crap that you're driving, Susie.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
The jeep?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
The jeep? You name it? Sean's the jeep? What do
you name it after me?
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Well, listen when I pound that beeping, you know, and
I smashed that steer.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Forget it. That's true road rage. Sean. Here we go.
No thanks, I don't want to be associated with it exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Oh, it's great, it's great.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Okay, you're both. Don't take this personally. This is not
meant to be an insult, although it's gonna sound like it.
You two are weirdos.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
You screen the lines. I'm telling you screen the lines
for a couple of days, and you're gonna see how
many people I had something We're.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Gonna come right back to you. Stay right there. I
just have a quick question. Travis and Nebraska. Travis, do
you have a name? Do you name your car?
Speaker 7 (23:30):
I was just gonna say, yes, I got five names.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
What's the name of your car.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Anyone? My saying is little red fifties cruiser. We got
Betty White as the.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Miniv all right, I got it? All right, Travis, stay there,
although I feel like hanging up on you. Dave and Florida, Dave,
do you name your car?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I do not, thank you, a normal person, Robert in Oklahoma,
do you name your car?
Speaker 8 (23:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
But I do have a handle because I'm a truck driver.
But I do not name my cars.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
All right, thank you. You're a truck driver. And and
he has a handle means you know, break or breaker.
This is so and so that's normal. All right? I win?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What's your handle? Robert, that's a good question. What's your handle?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It's called cover Chaser.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
That's just as bad as Susie.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
No, it's not. He's not naming his rig. He's not
naming his cars. I would say, based on our little
unscientific poll, I think I win.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
He definitely don't win.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's it's five.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
It is definitely unscientific.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I agree, definitely. Well, I can't really disagree with that truth,
all right, Penny good Luck. Tell Susie. We said hello,
Tell Molly. We said hello Molly, Susie. Whatever, I mean,
what do you do? You do? You go and and
and give Molly and Susie, you know, a nice night
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on it. You're gonna coco coco.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I give her what she wants.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Get under the covers. We have some hot cocoa. Gross.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And I had a guy.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Beautiful hit me on the whole world should be You're.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
So crazy, and he sent me a picture of his
tractor and he said, don't worry, Linda, we don't just
name our His name is Rick Klim. And he says,
what about the farmers that name their tractors. We call
this one big whitey and it's a ginormous tractor. And
he sent me a picture. It's a stagal.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Okay, I can't handle this. Travis at Nebraska, Travis, you're
on the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Thanks for having me on Sean. It's a privileged and
and honor I just wanted to talk about. I'm just
really grateful having President Trump be back in with Pete
hass As the sex Faire defense. I was part of
that whole covid Jab. They tried to get me kicked out.
I bought it to the very end, which was a
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very very stressful situation goes I'll lose my whole time
position out of the Air Guards. And it happened right
after I got back to my deployment in Afghanistan in
twenty twenty. I was over there in Kandahar time to
help close that base. Nowt because they closed the Kandahar
and oh well, I can't remember the other name of
that air base that they closed over on the other
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side of Afghanistan, but it was our two last bases.
And then got back and then all the letters came
out that you guys got to take this experimental I
guess they want to call it vaccine. I don't necessarily
sure that's what we could call it. But and then
I just had convictions about it, and the Lord convicted
me about it, and so I fought it out to
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the end, but a lot of people didn't, and then
a lot of people ended up getting out because of it.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, I'm gonna you're going to go back in how
many how much time did you have in because you
need twenty I guess to get your pension. Right.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Well, so I'm in the Guard, so at this point
I have eighteen years of total service. I got ten
years of active service. So I ended up getting my
job back, but it wasn't because of of what happened
there is because my position came back open, so I
reapplied for it because I actually left for a year
because I was worried about losing my job and not
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having a job. So what is it.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm on, I'm kind of short on time, but can
I please offer unsolicited advice? Honestly, you earned this. Please
get the other two years in in your Guard service.
Get the pension that you you worked hard, so hard
for after all those years of service. We want everybody
in those audience wants you to have it. You you
deserve it, okay, and you'll be glad you did later
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in life. That'll be, you know, money coming into your
family that I'm sure you're gonna want.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
Indeed, Yep, yep, that's the plan. I'm still in the
Guard still they did, so that was good.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
All right. Get your pension. You were you you earned
every Penny of that my friend, and I'm sorry you
had to go through that. That's ridiculous what all these
people have had to go through. We lost so many
good people as a result. Anyway, how undred nine four
one Shaw on our number if you want to be
a part of the program.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
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News Roundup and Information Overload Hour toll free. Our number
is eight hundred and nine to four one sean if
you want to be a part of the program, as
we have been going in a great specificity in detail.
Now we have one hundred and thirty countries that are
seeking either free and fair trade deals. I would imagine
most of them want that, or they'll be reciprocal tariffs.
(00:28):
We see the Trump effect with Navidia announcing that they
will produce AI supercomputers entirely in the US for the
first time and produce five hundred billion of AI infrastructure
in the US over the next four years, which is
a big deal, much to the surprise of many. America's
largest retailer, biggest box store if you will, Walmart, says
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it does not expect that Trump tariffs will negatively impact
their sales growth and are there going to be some
complications difficulty, Yeah, absolutely, And while I do believe these
one hundred and thirty countries, I think I would expect
and anticipate at some point there's going to be deal
after deal after deal that is going to be signed
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by the President and I think that's going to be
good for Americans. We have been ripped off taking advantage
of frankly abused, and have allowed ourselves to be such
for all of these years. As I mentioned earlier in
the program, Victor Davis Hansen had a lot of good
points in his column today. And you know, you know,
let's ignore the fact that, well, you know, why is
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Wall Street panicking? Their latest jobs report went through the
roof that they didn't expect, or the inflation rate dropped
to its lowest level in four years. They worried about
Trump's impending tax cuts, deregulation, greater budget cuts, which even
a novice on Wall Street would know is good for
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the economy. But if the US is running a sixty
three billion dollar trade surplus with Kenada, you've got to
ask some serious, significant, real questions. You know, I brought
up the issue earlier today. You know, why are US
cars pretty much frozen out of the European market? Why
does the EU have car sales in the US totaling
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forty three point nine billion dollars versus sales of American
cars of only eight point nine billion. Well we've gone
into that in detail. A ten percent terriff versus our
two and a half percent tariff, and of course they're
twenty percent vattax. That's thirty percent increase to the sticker
price of any automobile we're selling there. Now we have
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over seven trillion I guess now seven and a half
trillion with Navidio today. That is being committed. But this
is separate and apart from what President She is going
to do in China. Clearly, Donald Trump has gotten his attention,
and President She apparently is going on an Asia trade blitz,
(02:59):
according to reports visiting Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia seeking to stabilize
China's trade ties, and their commerce minister arguing this week
that Trump tariffs and flicks serious harm on developing nations. Meanwhile,
most of those countries are already at the point of
wanting to deal with President Trump and negotiate trade deals
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with US. And so anyway we're going to we'll see
what happens. And with China, I still believe that they
will need access to our markets and if they can
continue to ratchet up a trade war, Donald Trump's not
going to back down on China. Is he more open
and willing to negotiate with our allies and partner shore.
But again, the choice is going to be free and
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fair trade versus reciprocal trade. But the choice will be yours.
Here's the President sounding the alarm about how during the
Biden years we lost trillions of dollars because they allowed
China to take advantage of us, rip us off, and
abuse us. Here's what he said, with.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
The greatest economic power in the world, if we're smart,
if we're not smart, we're going to hurt our country
very badly. We lost with China over the Biden years
trillions of dollars on trade, trillions of dollars, and he
let them fleece us. And we can't do that anymore.
(04:19):
And you know what, I don't blame China at all.
I don't blame President She I like him, he likes me.
I mean, you know, they trunos. Who the hell cares you.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Know.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Let me just tell you this. I don't blame China.
I don't blame Vietnam.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I see the meeting today and that wonderful.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That's a lovely meeting.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Meeting like trying to figure out how do we screw
the United States of Americas Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Now the question is what happens now with China and
is President She able to Is he able to find
access to enough other markets and work out trade deals,
because if you look at the list, and I've scrolled
it on television and I've mentioned it on radio, I
just it would take me the rest of the show
(05:04):
to list every single item that China puts a tariff
on on the US. Are they going to be open
to free and fair trade or just will it be
reciprocal tarifsts. That's going to be up to President She,
But I think at the end of the day that
he's going to need access to our markets anyway. Gordon Chang,
author of The Coming Collapse of China and the Great
US China Tech War, and he actually put up on
(05:28):
x what President She will do when the sun rises
in Beijing is a question mark. He has no good
options because the more he retaliates, the more he undermines
his faltering economy. And by the way, the Chinese currency's
never been worse than where it is now. Their economy
is struggling. The only thing they've really invested in that
should concern Americans is in their military might. Anyway. Gordon Chang.
(05:52):
Welcome back to the program.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Thank you so much. Sean.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
All right, let's get your assessment on this. Knowing and
having studied President she as you have, well.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
The Chinese are in a very difficult place. First of all,
their economy is spiraling down. We see this from the
price data for March, which shows deflation. They're having their
two thousand and eight crisis now, Sean. In two thousand
and eight, they didn't want a recession, so they overstimulated
their economy, took on too much debt. Now they've got
to deal with all of that debt, and you have
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the plunging property market and failing local governments, and then
all of a sudden, President Trump says, I'm dealing with
the terriff issue. So I don't know what means that
they have. I mean, you mentioned that they're going to
try to sell more to other countries, but that's going
to be really difficult because our market is the most
important to them. They got the world's biggest consumer market
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can't be replaced. The only thing that Cijmping can do,
and which is what he's trying to do right now,
is to mobilize political opinion in the United States to
put pressure on President Trump. And I don't think Trump
is going to back down, as you say, because Trump
really believes what he's doing. He knows it's important, he
knows that this is it, and so I think he's
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going to stand.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Firm one hundred and thirty countries that want to do deals.
He certainly's gotten the world the world's attention. The only
thing I might have a slight warrior concern about is
I think everybody understands we've been ripped off and taken
advantage of, and it's gone on for fifty sixty years,
and I think that's one of the reasons why these
countries are so amenable to dealing with them. But back
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to China, I believe it, and at the end of
the day, President she will be practical, and the practical
answer is going to be okay. Donald Trump's going to
be in office four years. The impact on the Chinese
economy is incalculable in terms of the amount of money
and the amount of product that they send into this country.
(07:47):
So I would expect and anticipate a deal at some point,
probably a summit down the road. Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I hope you're right. The problem is that Cjping has
considered the Chinese political system so that only the most
hostile answers are considered acceptable, which means and at least
in the short and intermediate term, he's not going to
pick up the phone. Now, picking up the phone to
talk to President Trump would be the rational thing to do,
(08:13):
but I think he's boxed himself in. So yes, I
think long term the Chinese will have to talk to
the United States, but it is going to be a
lot longer than most people want. But by the way,
let's remember that when we did have a trade deal
with President with President Trump and General Secretary of Signping,
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it was a loser for us. That was the Phase
one trade deal of January twenty twenty. The Chinese immediately
violated it. So you know, we've got a long way
to go before we can get a trade deal which
actually means something.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
What do you mean by they violated? How did they
violate it?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
They had purchase commitments which were very specific on various
items agricultural and manufactured goods, and they just didn't meet
those commitments. It was very clear that there was no
way that they had actually honored the promises they made
to President Trump.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, well, I just think that, you know, the question
is a matter of pride. Now, the Chinese economy has
been faltering. How bad is it it is?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I think contracting it could be a little bit better
than that, But we know that it's not growing at
the five point zero percent pace that they claimed for
last year. Last year when they claimed five zero, it
was probably one point zero or one point five. Now
there's been very clear deterioration, so they're probably about zero.
And as I mentioned, they're in deflation, both consumer deflation
(09:43):
and factory deflation, and that means that the economy is
going down very hard to get out of deflation. So
I don't know what they're going to do short of
going to war, as you suggested.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Okay, so let's talk about this. They obviously have a
massive population. They have built up the military. Do you
believe they have surpassed America's military capabilities? They have hypersonics,
we don't. For example, however, we have more nuclear weapons
with more delivery systems than they do, which would be
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mutually assured destruction. Is President Chief suicidal? I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, I don't think so, though. I think he is
a much lower threshold of risk because right now he's
being blamed for all of China's problems, which means that
he is more willing to take risk than we think
he is, so he can take us by surprise. And
your first question, overall, the US military is more capable
than China's. And yes, they've got some weapons and some
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really important weapons that we don't have, the hypersonic cruise
missiles that you mentioned. But remember it's a communist military,
which means that it is not well configured for fighting
a long term more because when you get two reporting lines,
one political one military, where the political one is more
important in the military line, that's no way to run
a war.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Let me ask you a practical question, because there are
so many businesses that rely on cheap goods from China,
whether they're goods to build things here in America or
whether or not you know, for example, the toy industry.
I don't think Americans have an appetite to pay fifty
bucks for a barbie, assuming that toys like that are
made in China. I don't know for sure, but I'm
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just trying to come up with an example. And how
is it going to impact those businesses and jobs here
in America. Now. I love the seven trillion dollars that
seven and a half trillion now that have been committed
in new investment manufacturing, automobile industry, I paying career jobs
for Americans as a result of even the threat of
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President Trump's tariffs. But for the companies that have been
reliant and making money, and there's one, there's one prominent
business guy, I'm not going to mention him now, but
his comments this weekend I found pretty repulse have been disgusting,
you know, predicting an economic doom and gloom for America.
And I just happen to know for a fact that
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a lot of the profit margin of his well big
Wall Street firm has to do with the fact that
they do never ending business in China. So it's a
little bit selfish and self serving on his part as
far as I'm concerned. But we'll get into that maybe
at the right time. Well what do you do? What
do you say to the companies smaller American companies reliant
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on either materials or outright products that they're importing from China.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
They're going to have to move their supply chains to
countries that have better trade environments, and certainly we have
better relations with This has been, you know, clear for
some time that there was going to be increasing trade
friction between China and the United States. So these companies
should have moved their supply chains earlier, and if they didn't,
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they made a grievous mistake because everybody could see this
was coming. So I think that they will do that,
and that means that prices won't spike, or at least
they're not going to stay up for very long because
companies will move factories to countries where the tariff rates
are lower, and that'll be good for US.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Sean Well, I agree, and I think it's going to
be good for American markers as well. And I think,
you know, we already see massive amounts of money being
invested in the country. What do you predict Europe is
going to do.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Europe needs to come to the table with President Trump
and enter into a major trade agreement. This is something
that Biden and his predecessors couldn't do because they were
playing too nice and the Europeans play very, very tough
on trade, as President Trump has said. So I think
that there will be a deal. And the other thing
is I don't think they'll have much of a deal
(13:46):
with China because China is trying to also enter into
a trade relationship with the twenty seven member nation European Union.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But EU and with the European Union, well, they've been
stupid and in terms of getting their energy resources from Russia.
Would they be stupid enough to move away from the
United States and move towards China.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I don't think so, because they've had a lot of
trade friction with China, and they know how bad China
is and the things that make China a predatory and
criminal trader are not going to be settled by a
trade agreement between the EU and China. Now, as for energy,
President Trump is willing to sell them energy, and if
when we get our export terminals in Louisiana up to speed,
(14:30):
I think that the Europeans are going to see that
they should be buying American energy rather than Russian energy.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Now it's going to be interesting to watch Gordon Chang.
We appreciate you, Thank you, sir for being with US
eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn, if you want
to be a part of the program, I'm sure most
of you by now have heard Bill Maher's comments. I
actually watched it and it was interesting, but I had
already known what happened. We had Kid Rock on the
(14:57):
next night. He told us he was there. Dana White
was there, so I didn't think Bill. I don't think
Bill Mar's a liar. I just think. You know, one
interesting thing I think Kid Rock said to Bill Maher is,
you know you donate all this money to Democrats. Did
they ever invite you?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
At one point he even said one of the things
that he really liked about Donald Trump that he and
this was to me was amazing. I wouldn't feel comfortable
talking to Obama or Clinton like I did Trump. I
was able to criticize him and he was fine with it.
And by the way, that's one hundred percent true. And
you know, they found areas of agreement, like on wokeism
(15:37):
and immigration, and he went into great specificity in details,
not changing who he is, and he was clear about that. Anyway,
here's what Mar had to say Friday night.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
So, Maga fans, don't worry. Your boy gave me nothing,
just hats hats in a very generous amount of time
and a willingness to listen and accept me as a
possible friend. Even though I'm not maga, which was the
point of the dinner. And he said, you know, I've
heard from a lot of people who really liked that
we're having this dinner. Not all, but a lot, And
(16:07):
I said same. A lot of people told me they
loved it, but not all. And we agreed. The people
who don't even want us to talk, we don't like
you don't talk as opposed to what writing the same
editorial for the millionth time and making twenty five hour
speeches into the wind. Really, that's what liberals have. He
takes the piss out of everybody else and we can
(16:29):
hold ours. Okay, that's my report. You can hate me
for it, but I'm not a liar. Trump was gracious
and measured. And why he isn't that in other settings
I don't know, and I can't answer, and it's not
my place to answer. I'm just telling you what I saw,
and I wasn't high.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I gotta admit that's pretty funny, Linda. Imagine would there
ever be a moment where Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama or
any of these people whatever. I doubt it. I don't
think that would ever happen.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Definitely not. Maybe you should start, you know, getting high
on all of your shows and trash talking them excessively.
I guess that's what they like. They're massacres.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, he said he didn't go HI. Apparently he wanted
to drink immediately. According to one of my sources, can
I have a drink? It was a little number.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
Sure, it was.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Super stressful for him. I mean it's like you know,
I mean they were just kept breaking his stones. It
was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, I mean, Keith Overmany somewhat has no impact at all.
Just oh my god, it's a constant. Yeah, he lives
in a constant state of rage. By the way, Uh,
don't over analyze mar prostituting himself to Trump. Mar works
for the same pascist at Warner who took over and
corrupted CNN. He goes on and then he's I've known
(17:49):
Bill since nineteen seventy eight. Is a shameless opportunist with
no real principle. Then and he remained so this is
so he can keep his HBO show. Oh like everybody
at MSDNC Washington Post similar criticism. You don't have to
patronize me, Marsh snapping at this idiot. Washington Post commos
to us he was almost unwatchable. At that point, I
(18:10):
couldn't even watch it anymore. Gretchen Whitmer. Now this is
a little different situation. Gretchen Whitmer knows that the state
of Michigan is devastated because of the sixty year policy
as it relates to tariffs, and she wants to get
on the right side of the issue because her state
has been decimated. Anyway, eight hundred and ninety four to one, Seawan,
(18:33):
If you want to be a part of the program.
Guy is a Maryland guy. How are you glad you called?
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Hey, son, thank you so much for taking my call.
I've been listening to you for years. Hey, I got
the best story man. You're gonna love this story. So
I'm a retired teacher and I'm a house painter. Now,
so I bought I bought a sign and I put
on my paint truck. It says my truck identifies as
a Tesla. So I went to this Tesla protest set
(19:00):
because within on these mills where I live. So I
pull in and first they're smiling at me because I
don't know if they think I may be making front
of tesselas. So I parked in the lot. I get
over and Sean, it's all these old people, mostly white,
all these old guys like me, and there's a few
young guys mixed in. And I said, look, why are
you guys protesting? I mean, you guys have the American dream.
(19:21):
Maybe you got everything, you don't do without. You've never
had to, like live in a bad neighborhood. What is
going on? Well, they started cursing at me, using all
kinds of foul language. They were calling me a racist.
I said, look, man, I was a coach and a
teacher for forty years. Man, I'm not a racist. I
coached every type of kid you know, a lot of
state champions. I said, what are you guys talking about?
(19:43):
And they were just cursing and they were blowing the
whistle and one of the one of the young guys
goes up and he says, go ahead, buddy, throw a
punch at me and then I'll kick your butt. I said, man,
I'm not going to hit you. And then they were
really man. They were cursed and swearing. I'll tell you, Sean,
I have never seen such rudeness. And the signs that
they were holding are the same exact signs I saw Apaghettysburg.
So I mean, I think they're being paid to be
(20:04):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Listen, I welcome to my world. I've dealt with this
a lot. I dealt with a lot more when I
was in New York. Unfortunately, it's a major reason why
I left, because I don't want to put myself in
people I love in that situation. Frankly, I don't care.
I don't mind confrontation, never have my entire life. However,
it's not fair to friends, family, co workers, people that
(20:27):
I care about. I don't want to put them in
this situation. But I deal with these idiots all the time.
And you see how vicious and violent and horrific the
left has become. You know, they praised Luigi Mangioni. I
can't explain that obsession. You heard Taylor Lorenz earlier or
over the weekend. I saw it online somewhere and justifying
(20:49):
this is the guy that murdered the United Healthcare CEO.
We see what they've been doing at Tesla dealerships, firing
bullets into those dealerships and fire bombs cars and charging stations,
and calls for assassination of Elon Musk. We watched this
weekend in horror, even though he's a Democratic governor. This
(21:10):
is absolute evil and its domestic terrorism and what they
did to Josh Shapiro's house is appalling and sick and evil,
and all of this is related to the Democratic Party
has embraced this radical pro Hamas wing and their party
and are unwilling to speak out against it. And I mean,
(21:33):
I feel terrible for his family. But at some point
I hope he comes out very publicly and says the
squad members that have been virulently anti Semitic, and the
other Democrats that have remained silent, and those that have
remained silent about the domestic terrorism on Elon Musk, those
that praise Luigi Mangione need to stop. Anyway, my friend,
(21:53):
appreciate the call. Penny Utah. Next Sean Hannity Show, What's up, Penny?
How are you?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
I'm great, Sean, and I just want to tell you
that I am grateful for you and for your shows
and thank you. You Just stay in there. I was
calling also now. I told you how great I thought you.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Were, but when you were oh boy, whatever the butt comes,
here comes the criticism. Go ahead and have at it.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Criticism.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
You got it, brother. Okay, Linda names her cars. She
is not the only one. I have always named my car.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
What's the name? What's the name of your car? You
give your car a name? I think that is the
most strange, weird, bizarre thing I've ever heard of my life.
What am I supposed to name my new Tesla? Charlie?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Mollie?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
No, Molly the Mercedes, Molly your Mercedes. So your car
is Molly. Linda, what's the name of your your That
the piece of crap that you're driving, Susie.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
The jeep?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
The jeep? You name it? Sean's the jeep? What do
you name it after me?
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Well, listen when I pound that beeping, you know, and
I smashed that steer.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Forget it. That's true road rage. Sean. Here we go.
No thanks, I don't want to be associated with it exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Oh, it's great, it's great.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Okay, you're both. Don't take this personally. This is not
meant to be an insult, although it's gonna sound like it.
You two are weirdos.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
You screen the lines. I'm telling you screen the lines
for a couple of days, and you're gonna see how
many people I had something We're.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Gonna come right back to you. Stay right there. I
just have a quick question. Travis and Nebraska. Travis, do
you have a name? Do you name your car?
Speaker 7 (23:30):
I was just gonna say, yes, I got five names.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
What's the name of your car.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Anyone? My saying is little red fifties cruiser. We got
Betty White as the.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Miniv all right, I got it? All right, Travis, stay there,
although I feel like hanging up on you. Dave and Florida, Dave,
do you name your car?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I do not, thank you, a normal person, Robert in Oklahoma,
do you name your car?
Speaker 8 (23:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
But I do have a handle because I'm a truck driver.
But I do not name my cars.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
All right, thank you. You're a truck driver. And and
he has a handle means you know, break or breaker.
This is so and so that's normal. All right? I win?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What's your handle? Robert, that's a good question. What's your handle?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It's called cover Chaser.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
That's just as bad as Susie.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
No, it's not. He's not naming his rig. He's not
naming his cars. I would say, based on our little
unscientific poll, I think I win.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
He definitely don't win.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's it's five.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
It is definitely unscientific.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I agree, definitely. Well, I can't really disagree with that truth,
all right, Penny good Luck. Tell Susie. We said hello,
Tell Molly. We said hello Molly, Susie. Whatever, I mean,
what do you do? You do? You go and and
and give Molly and Susie, you know, a nice night
(24:56):
on it. You're gonna coco coco.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I give her what she wants.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Get under the covers. We have some hot cocoa. Gross.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And I had a guy.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Beautiful hit me on the whole world should be You're.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
So crazy, and he sent me a picture of his
tractor and he said, don't worry, Linda, we don't just
name our His name is Rick Klim. And he says,
what about the farmers that name their tractors. We call
this one big whitey and it's a ginormous tractor. And
he sent me a picture. It's a stagal.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Okay, I can't handle this. Travis at Nebraska, Travis, you're
on the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Thanks for having me on Sean. It's a privileged and
and honor I just wanted to talk about. I'm just
really grateful having President Trump be back in with Pete
hass As the sex Faire defense. I was part of
that whole covid Jab. They tried to get me kicked out.
I bought it to the very end, which was a
(25:56):
very very stressful situation goes I'll lose my whole time
position out of the Air Guards. And it happened right
after I got back to my deployment in Afghanistan in
twenty twenty. I was over there in Kandahar time to
help close that base. Nowt because they closed the Kandahar
and oh well, I can't remember the other name of
that air base that they closed over on the other
(26:17):
side of Afghanistan, but it was our two last bases.
And then got back and then all the letters came
out that you guys got to take this experimental I
guess they want to call it vaccine. I don't necessarily
sure that's what we could call it. But and then
I just had convictions about it, and the Lord convicted
me about it, and so I fought it out to
(26:38):
the end, but a lot of people didn't, and then
a lot of people ended up getting out because of it.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, I'm gonna you're going to go back in how
many how much time did you have in because you
need twenty I guess to get your pension. Right.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Well, so I'm in the Guard, so at this point
I have eighteen years of total service. I got ten
years of active service. So I ended up getting my
job back, but it wasn't because of of what happened
there is because my position came back open, so I
reapplied for it because I actually left for a year
because I was worried about losing my job and not
(27:11):
having a job. So what is it.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm on, I'm kind of short on time, but can
I please offer unsolicited advice? Honestly, you earned this. Please
get the other two years in in your Guard service.
Get the pension that you you worked hard, so hard
for after all those years of service. We want everybody
in those audience wants you to have it. You you
deserve it, okay, and you'll be glad you did later
(27:35):
in life. That'll be, you know, money coming into your
family that I'm sure you're gonna want.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
Indeed, Yep, yep, that's the plan. I'm still in the
Guard still they did, so that was good.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
All right. Get your pension. You were you you earned
every Penny of that my friend, and I'm sorry you
had to go through that. That's ridiculous what all these
people have had to go through. We lost so many
good people as a result. Anyway, how undred nine four
one Shaw on our number if you want to be
a part of the program.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
That's going to wrap things up for today, Hannity Tonight,
nine eastern on the Fox News Channel. News you won't
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(28:26):
Claude Carmichael clinical psychologists and Harvard announcing they will defy
the Trump order to cut DEI programs and expel pro
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