January 24, 2025 • 27 mins
Craig T. Nelson, is an actor, writer, director, and producer, and plays Buck in the upcoming movie Green and Gold.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I let it skin A simple man that can only
mean one thing on this radio program. That means all
things self proclaimed simple man. That means all things Bill O'Reilly,
all things bell O'reillybilloreilly dot com, mister O'Reilly, there's no
shortage of news. I for the first time, I'm gulping
water every hour of every day just to keep up
with the news. However, when Donald Trump yesterday signed an
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order to declassify the files on JFK, RFK and the
MLK assassinations, I kind of thought of you. I mean,
because you're working on a book now killing Hannity, and
you have your whole Killing series, which is the best
selling in history. But I've got to imagine that this
is right up your ally, and I'm sure you're pretty
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excited about it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, we're looking forward to seeing what they have, particularly
in the James Lray MLK junior assassination. How he got
from Memphis to London. This guy's a drifter, youn't have
any access to money, and all of a sudden he's
on a worldwide man hunt, goes to Canada, that goes
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to Angle and how to get there?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So I had no no, I think a lot of
questions are going to be answered. I think one of
the things the American people want to know is whether
or not there was any involvement with anybody within our
own government. I believe you know, that's been a theory.
It's been many have called it a conspiracy theory. I
have no knowledge of any of that, but I think
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the American people do have a right to know, and
I think the time is coming. I'm glad the president
is going to be transparent.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I agree one hundred percent there is involvement in the
jfk assassination. And if you read my book Killing Kennedy,
which was the second book after Killing Lincoln, you'll see
there was a man named George de Moor and Shield,
who real shadowy figure, who was a close friend of
Lee Harvey Oswald. Irnshield did work for the CIA. That's
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not a theory, it's not a conspiracy. It's a fact
and I established that way back in the nineteen seventies
when I was a local reporter in Dallas, and to
this day that has been able to find. I do
not expect it to be part of what is released
by the government because the CIA will hold back stuff.
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They always do.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't know if they're going to be able to
Donald Trump. Bassetti's releasing all of it. Let's see if
that happens. But you're right about the process. The process
is that the CIA. Yeah, we'll try and redact certain information.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Keep in mind one name, George de moorin Shield. If
that game is not in the papers that is released
that the president has ordered released, then you're not getting
the full story.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So I've been to the Grassy Knoll, I have been
to the bank Depository. I've read all about the magic bullet.
I don't believe it's it's I don't believe it's scientifically possible.
What say you, mister O'Reilly in terms of what you
think really.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Happened, Well, we've debunked all of that in killing Kennedy
by getting the actual documents that the FBI put together
on the week after the assassination. What happened was JFK
was killed taking a Parkland hospital in Dallas, pronounced dead.
The local jurisdiction had power, not the FEDS, and the
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locals were not up to it, and so as president
the new president LBJ ordered the FBI to go in
and they immediately did took the investigation over and they
kept voluminous notes. We had them all the first publication
ever get them. So there's no doubt in my mind.
Lee Harvey Oswell pull the trigger, killed JFK from the
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book depository. He ordered the gun, was found prints on
the gun. He fled, He killed the police officer. You
wouldn't do that if you were some patsy okay.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And why was he Why was he killed? Is it
who he knew or who might have been involved in
a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
No, Jack Ruby had terminal cancer, He loved JFK.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
He went in and.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He shot Lee Corbioswoll And he had access because all
the cops in Dallas worked with Jack Ruby. They were
all involved with his strip club and all that. So
when I lay it out, you'll see how it makes perfect. Say,
we also got the ballistics report, and we got the
autopsy report, all of that.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But I will be looking at the By the way,
if the autopsy photos of JFK are online and available,
I don't think they ever should have been made available
that they are. They're so gruesome and it's so sad,
and you see all his brain matter hanging out. I mean,
it's terrible to look at I had a conversation off
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the record. Well it wasn't off the record, it was
a conversation, a private conversation, and he's already made a
public I'm not disclosing anything new, but RFK actually has
taken the time to really study the assassination of his father,
and that's RFK Jr. And an RFK was the one assassinated.
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What's so interesting is he went to the prison to
see the so called assassin, Sir hands. Sir Hand, he
is convinced that was not the assassin after meeting with
him and all the other evidence he's accumulated over the years.
What's your reaction to that?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's bull There were seven eye witnesses to shooting. Sir
Anserin admitted to it. Prince on a gun. You know, look,
people believe what they want to believe. And I feel
terrible for the Kennedy family. You and I both know
members of that family, and I have not made it
a crusade to go against Bobby Kennedy Junior's theory. I
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actually noted it in one of my books, but it's
both Sir Hanshar did it. He is still in prison.
He'll be in prison forever and he should be.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
All right, let's move on to some other issues here,
Donald Trump. You know, forget about that first hundred days.
Let's look at the first hundred hours. I don't think
in our lifetime we've ever seen anybody move at the
speed of light that he's moving at on a variety
of issues successfully. And when I spend time with him,
and we both have known him thirty plus years, when
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I spend time with him, it is very obvious. And
I asked him about this. I he is the most
relaxed I've ever seen him. Number one, He's the most
dialed in I've ever seen him. Number two, And he's
the most committed I've ever seen him. And the commitment
is to the agenda, the promises that he made to
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the American people, and a desire to accomplish all of
it and more and exceed expectations. That's what I walked
away from after that interview with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I saw the interview. I use the word ferocity, so
you're absolutely right, not in the modern times, but in
any times. It's never been a president walks in the
White House and operates at warp speed the way mister
Trump is doing. Never and it's not even close. There's
no close second to it. Usually it's deliberations, it's meetings,
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it's sorting out, it's deliberating, it's ruminating. There's none of that.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Two mistakes he made this week.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
One going to that prayer service because that woman's a nut.
The bishop, that episcopal and everybody knew it. Why why
that'd be like going over well, but you.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Could not have anticipated she would go down that road.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Though, come on, if I disagree one hundred percent, she
is an absolute left wing loon. That would be like
going to a service by al Sharpnon.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean it's time after time, the time at this woman,
and she's not subtle about it anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
By the way, you took a lot of heat years
ago for having lunch with ol Sharfton. I took a
lot of heat for debating ow Sharton.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I tried to forge day tent with that guy, but
he's a grifter. I gave him twenty five thousand dollars
because he ran out of money on Thanksgiving to feed
his folks up in Harlem. I never made that public,
but we gave him twenty five so he could buy
turkeys and food and distributed under the banner of his
National Action Committee, and I did it out of charity,
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and that guy turned around and knifed me in the back.
He's an awful, disgusting human being. And that would be
like Trump walking inverse service with him. Because this bishop,
this episcopal bishop, is absolute disgrace what she did, the
disrespect she showed, and the absolute lives the way she
presented the merciful thing when both you and I know
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that hundreds of thousands of Americans so I did because
of the open border. Did she mention that? Nope, she did.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You know what, Bill, I think I'm the only one
on TV, and I don't know if you've done it.
On Bill O'Reilly dot com. I would scroll the names
of every American murdered, and it's not just Lake and
Riley and Rachel Morin and Joscelyn and Hungary, but there
are hundreds of them, and the Americans raped, including children
and victims of other violent crimes. And we have terrorists,
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cartel members, and gang members in our country. And for
her to make that lecture in front of the President
was beyond despicable and repulsive.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Where's the mercy there? But I'm glad it happened so
Americans can see it, and I was mistake number one minor,
And then I would have done the judge.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Reviewing the violence against the cops at JAY six. That's
the way I would have handled that, because there's some
bad people there that got part and so you and
know what, I know what. Everybody knows it now. I
understand why the President did it, and I don't think
it's going to haunt them politically. I think people will
forget about it mostly. But you know, both you and
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I have something in common. Hey, I hate to admit it,
but we want public servants to do the right thing.
Would that be an accurate statement?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Very accurate? Of course. I want them to serve the
people of this country, the people that make the country great.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Sometimes you don't you and I don't see the right thing.
You know, we disagree on it, but we both want
to do the right thing, and we want our public
servants to do it as well. I don't think letting
some really bad people out of jail at cop Tac
cops the right thing. Simple. I'm a simple man.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
The argument and the answer that the President gave because
I did ask him that question was actually pretty interesting
and profound. And if you look at it through the
prism of how much time they spent in jail, how
much time they were sentenced to jail compared to other people.
For example, go back to the summer of twenty twenty
five hundred and seventy four Riot's Bill, and they were
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all riots. They were labeled as riots. You had dozens
of dead Americans, thousands of cops pelted with bricks, rocks, bottles,
molotov cocktails, and you had billions of property damage. We
had all of the evidence in the world, videotaped evidence
of the people that were responsible. How many bill how
many people do you think Bill were held accountable? And
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what about the vice president at the time or running
for vice president, Kamala Harris saying the rioters won't stop,
the rioters shouldn't stop, and we're not going to stop.
And nobody ever investigated any of that bill. You do
need equal justice and equal application of our laws. They
did pay a price, a very dear price for their
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actions that day. Those people that were violent, there were
a whole bunch of other people that did absolutely nothing.
Maybe the worst thing they did was walk into the
Capitol and took videos, and those people did not deserve
to be treated the way they were treated. And by
the way, a lot of the information on J six
was not told the American people. We know for a
fact that five people testified and our witnesses that Donald
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Trump called up and was willing to call up ten
thousand Guard troops. We know in writing Muriel Bowser, who
had the authority, denied in writing those troops. We know
that the Capitol Police Chief Son was begging for troops.
We know that Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, the Sergeant of Arms,
they didn't do a darn thing. So if Donald Trump
really wanted an insurrection, I doubt he would have approved
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ten thousand National Guard troops.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
No sane person or fair on a person believes that
President Trump wanted that to happen. But again, you come
back to the right thing. And I think, you know,
when I talked and I talked to a lot of
police officers about this, and I see, who did you
think about it that because they're on the front line,
and about eighty percent of them said no. I think
we would have liked to have more definition on those
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people before they get to part And and I think that
would have been the right thing to do. But again, look,
it's emotional. Donald Trump made a promise, and what I'd
like to see him follow up on is there was
prosecutorial misconduct directed at some people who got into this
fracas and got punished far beyond their crime. I'd like
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to see some of that uncovered, because we, as you said,
we don't know that. I had a guy on last
night on the No Spin News who said, look, I
was just a photographer. I was just taking pictures and
I was in the group. I never stepped foot in
the Capitol. I was on a property and they made me,
you know, under threat of felony, sign a flea for
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a misdemeanor and now I have this on my jacket
and it was ridiculous. That's the kind of stuff that
we should go back and look at because the prosecutors
who did that should be hell accountable.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think you agree with him, right, I totally agree
with that, and I think getting to the bottom of
it was smart. I'd like the fact that they're going
to now both Comer and Jim Jor are committed to
going into the Biden family on finding out whether Joe
Biden got monies from these foreign business deals. We know
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he lied when he said he never talked to his
son and his brother or anybody for that matter. We
know that money, according to Hunter's laptop, went to Joe.
And they've given up their Fifth Amendment rights. They can't
plead the Fifth and they'll have to testify. And similarly,
all the JA six committee members and doctor Fauci, they
all need to come up and testify as well, and
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they don't have the Fifth Amendment right that they had
having gotten and accepted a pardon. Mister Riley, it's great
to have you. Hope you are having a great new year.
We wish you the very best, and thank you for
being with us.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You know, I'm not the biggest fan of everybody in Hollywood.
There are a lot of people that I know, and
a lot of people I respect, and a lot of
people that I like. And there are even people that
have different political views than me. They're very talented, gifted people,
and I just like talented people. I don't really care
what your politics are, but anyway, so one such person
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is going to join us in a minute, Craig T. Nelson,
and he's got a new movie. We want to tell
you about whenever I see a good movie, Whenever I
know there's a good movie out there, I want to
support it. Because there's so few good movies that we
can all see, that your family can see, that you
want to see, that you want to spend your limited
time watching. I mean, it just doesn't exist. But anyway,
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I happen to be a fan of his, and I
think he's done a great job. I mean, when you
look at his resume, it's pretty amazing. He's worked with
Diane Keaton, Jane Fonda, Candice Bergen, He's worked with Matthew McConaughey,
Will Ferrell, Kevin Hart, Let's see, Tommy Lee Jones, Ben Affleck,
Kevin Costner. I mean, and Ryan Reynolds is hardly anybody
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hasn't worked with Sarah Jessica Parker and I can go
on and on, and he just has had an amazing career.
And anyway, he has a he's an actor, writer, director,
and he's got a new movie out. He plays Buck
in the upcoming movie called Greening Gold. And anyway, we
welcome to the program. Craig T. Nelson, Sir, how are
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you what a career you've had and it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Actually, well it's pretty amazing. Yeah, it is. Seana been variclessed.
And I just want to tell you, by the way,
great job on the interview in the Oval office. And
also I wanted to tell you a remember electure night
and you came on with that kind of out of
the blue prediction and I was watching and I was stunned.
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I mean because at the time it didn't reveal any
of the information that you were sharing, and yet here
you go. It hit right, the nail was right on
the head.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know, you want me to tell you the secret,
I'm going to tell I can tell you the secret.
The secret was is every day there's early voting, and
every day I got those numbers, and every night after
the TV show, I would study those numbers. And I
actually went on with Dana Perino and Bill Hammer at
nine am on election day morning and I said, starting
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out today, Kamala has a math problem because she was
down about seven hundred thousand votes from where Joe Biden
was in twenty twenty in Pennsylvania, she was down forty
five percent in Wisconsin. She was down so low in
Georgia and North Carolina that there was no way, even
with record turnout that I thought she could come back.
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So I felt really good about it, but I did
not want to communicate that to this audience, because you know,
at the end of the day turnout on election day
that's still going to be you know, sixty percent of
the votes, so you can't take anything for granted. But
I felt pretty confident going into that day, and that
by that time at night, I'd been checking in all
day with Democratic strongholds and they were not seeing the
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record turnout that they would have needed to win. I
appreciate you noticing that. It's amazing actually how many people
told me they saw it. But I want to talk
about you. You've had such an amazing career, and I
want to talk about this new movie because I love
the Premisol whole thing. You star as Buck, a fourth
generation dairy farmer, and I love dairy farmer. I love farmers,
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I love truckers, I love ranchers. And we don't think
a lot about it, but they feed us and they
make sure that our refrigerators are full every day, and
we don't. We don't give them enough credit. But this
is an independent film, Green and Gold, and anyway, it's
you're facing foreclosure, which is not an uncommon situation for
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people that own farms. You wager everything you have on
the Green Bay Packers and a Hail Mary to save
this little chunk of dirt, this farm, and anyway, it's
an amazing story, but it's really rooted in real life
for far too many small farmers in this country.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It's you know, my family farm goes back to eighteen sixty.
They're still in South Dakota, the Nelson farm, and they
went from sixty acres to two hundred, you know, twenty
two hundred acres, but twenty two hundred, not all of it,
but it is there, some of us rented. But the
beauty of that is to me, Sean, the beauty of
who the these people are is in there is in
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their heart, their tenacity and their hope, if you will,
resiliency and their optimism. I mean, they are truly. I
was just talking to the man that runs a farm
last night, Bob Nelson, and we were talking, and the
gift that I get when I'm speaking to him or
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other family members that are farming, is this kind of
heartfelt truthfulness. There's a there's a beauty about them. There's
no facade, there's none of this dancing around an issue.
There right in the middle of it, there's seven days
a week. They work hard there. The mark are very
very small, as you know, but there are people of
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the Lion, and they're Americans, and it's just a wonderful
glimpse into I think what the referendum was in our
political year this year. America does have a resiliency and
a hope and an expectation. That is why this country
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is so great.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
One of the things that really really frustrated me, disappointed
me is after Hurricane Helene, and it was a very
underreported story. We spent a lot of time talking about
it on this show, a lot of time talking about
it on TV, especially in areas in South Carolina Tennessee,
but more specifically in the northwestern part of North Carolina.
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They got devastated by Hurricane Helene and parts of my
home state of Florida as well, and then they that
got followed up by Hurricane Milton and a lot of
property damage. My understanding is, I think you live out
in California, you've been watching these wildfires. It is inexplicable
to me that the science of forestry is not practiced
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out there. It's inexplicable and unexcusable that hydrants don't have
water in them, that reservoirs are empty. The finger pointing
has been on a magnitude that I can't even believe.
And it seems that anybody that says, Okay, we're going
to help the people of California, but they've they've got
to prevent this from happening again is somehow an evil person.
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It's not. We're trying to prevent future tragedies that are predictable.
Santa Ana winds are predictable, and wildfires in California are predictable,
aren't they.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well yeah, I mean we've did through quite a few.
They're probably more recent and more frequent than ever because
of the climate. But also the as you mentioned, I mean,
the management, the budget cuts and forest management and what
needs to be done to protect you. And also you
know you've got the devastation, Sean, when you see it
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is absolutely incomprehensible. I mean, it's just on a scale
you wouldn't believe I think it. But is it The
reclamation that rebuild is up to two hundred and fifty
billion somehow, I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
It's an insane amount of money. And for the people
in North Carolina. I mean FEMA was going to kick
them out two Fridays ago, out of their temporary housing
if they didn't fill out the proper paperwork. I mean,
it's freezing coals in that area of North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, it's easier issues that need to be addressed, and
they haven't been. They've been left on the back burner
and they've been you know, we've voted in twenty fourteen
for adequate reservoirs, that there's been a water shortage proclamation
given in California, and yet at the same time you're
dealing with in the Woolsy fire which hit Malibu, we
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didn't have water and we didn't have water drops and
we didn't have so it was less to burn for
the most part, if you will. So you know there's
a fight going on. But again, you know, there is
a really resiliency among the people here and the desire
to rebuild in some form, and I would like to
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see that not only enabled, but somehow that they're given
a pathway that's a lot quicker than the bureaucracy that
we've had to deal with for so long.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But this kind of fits into your movie in this sense.
I really, I really do feel that the people that
make this country great are not people that are in
the public eye. And I'm sure people ask you for
a selfie. They asked me for a selfie, and I'm
always I'm grateful to do grateful to people that give
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me this microphone every day, in that camera every night,
and give me an opportunity to express my views and
and basically follow my dream in life. But the people
that really make this country great, the unsung heroes, are
the people that grow our food, that the ranchers that
put meat on our table, the truckers that deliver it
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and fill those store shelves for us, and the entire
supply chain line. And you're talking about a very real
situation in this movie Green and Gold, where there are
small farmers have been squeezed out. They've been pressured to
sell their land for development, but they want to keep
in the farming business. And here you're in a situation
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in this movie where you're going to lay it all
on the line on the Green Bay Packers, which, by
the way, is not necessarily always the best bet. I'm
just saying Greenmad Packers are fine. I bet you're probably
a part owner. However, you put it all on the line.
And I know people that have done things like that
and have succeeded, and I know people in life that
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have done things like that and have failed. And I'm
not going to give I'm not going to let people
know the outcome of the movie because I don't think
it's fair. I don't want to be you know, a
spoiler alert here, I'm not giving it to you.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Well, yeah, no, it's so true, isn't it. I mean,
they are they unsung, They're not heard their voice, although
they did speak up, didn't they. I think we've heard
from them louder and clear, and I think there's cautious optimism,
and I love the fact that they're so generous and
so giving, and the community aspect of it is something
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that we've lost because we were given twenty four to seven,
the fact that we're not that great, and that we've
done this and we're that there's a whole range of
people out there that are servicing our needs and our
wants and demands. Not to mention the fact that they're
faith based. They have a belief in not only America,
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but a belief in a god that they trust them
and want to pass on to the family. And I
think as.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Had Hollywood lost a lot of their connection to the
men and women in this country that are great. I
mean I find so many movies. I have more selections
than ever before, and I find myself more often than
not saying this is crap. I'd rather just turn the
TV off and go to bed. I mean, it frustrates
me because I'd love to watch a good movie.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Well, you know, Sean, it's like anything else, it's where
the money is, and they think, and of course the
box office is down right now quite a bit, but
at the same time, it's individually. As an actor in
this business, you choose those projects that you think people
would want to see, and I try to stay away
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from anything dark and I think, and I think any
promotion of anything that I don't believe in. So you
pick and choose.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
It's so funny you're saying that because I won't watch
dark anything anymore. Like these series that get very dark,
I don't watch them anymore. I love this series that choose.
Did you ever watch that?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh? I know Dallas very well and Dallas Jenkins, the director, producer,
creator of the show, and you know, it's fantastic and
I love what's being done on there and who they're
bringing that message to. And I would just hope that
he can devote, you know, a person can devote what
they believe in and their belief system and then find
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an outlet for it.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, and you know what, people people are finding it
and they're watching it. And Droves, I've been a fan
of yours for a long time. We've never had the
opportunity to talk. I wish you all the best. His
new movie, Craig ten Nelson, is coming out. It's called
Green and Gold, and he plays Buck, a farmer about
to lose his farm and he bets everything on the
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packers and you'll have to watch the movie to get
the outcome. Craig, we appreciate it, man, Thank you, come
back again.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Hannedy, thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
You're a great American. Eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn
our number.
I let it skin A simple man that can only
mean one thing on this radio program. That means all
things self proclaimed simple man. That means all things Bill O'Reilly,
all things bell O'reillybilloreilly dot com, mister O'Reilly, there's no
shortage of news. I for the first time, I'm gulping
water every hour of every day just to keep up
with the news. However, when Donald Trump yesterday signed an
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order to declassify the files on JFK, RFK and the
MLK assassinations, I kind of thought of you. I mean,
because you're working on a book now killing Hannity, and
you have your whole Killing series, which is the best
selling in history. But I've got to imagine that this
is right up your ally, and I'm sure you're pretty
(00:47):
excited about it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, we're looking forward to seeing what they have, particularly
in the James Lray MLK junior assassination. How he got
from Memphis to London. This guy's a drifter, youn't have
any access to money, and all of a sudden he's
on a worldwide man hunt, goes to Canada, that goes
(01:10):
to Angle and how to get there?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So I had no no, I think a lot of
questions are going to be answered. I think one of
the things the American people want to know is whether
or not there was any involvement with anybody within our
own government. I believe you know, that's been a theory.
It's been many have called it a conspiracy theory. I
have no knowledge of any of that, but I think
(01:32):
the American people do have a right to know, and
I think the time is coming. I'm glad the president
is going to be transparent.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I agree one hundred percent there is involvement in the
jfk assassination. And if you read my book Killing Kennedy,
which was the second book after Killing Lincoln, you'll see
there was a man named George de Moor and Shield,
who real shadowy figure, who was a close friend of
Lee Harvey Oswald. Irnshield did work for the CIA. That's
(02:03):
not a theory, it's not a conspiracy. It's a fact
and I established that way back in the nineteen seventies
when I was a local reporter in Dallas, and to
this day that has been able to find. I do
not expect it to be part of what is released
by the government because the CIA will hold back stuff.
(02:23):
They always do.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't know if they're going to be able to
Donald Trump. Bassetti's releasing all of it. Let's see if
that happens. But you're right about the process. The process
is that the CIA. Yeah, we'll try and redact certain information.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Keep in mind one name, George de moorin Shield. If
that game is not in the papers that is released
that the president has ordered released, then you're not getting
the full story.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So I've been to the Grassy Knoll, I have been
to the bank Depository. I've read all about the magic bullet.
I don't believe it's it's I don't believe it's scientifically possible.
What say you, mister O'Reilly in terms of what you
think really.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Happened, Well, we've debunked all of that in killing Kennedy
by getting the actual documents that the FBI put together
on the week after the assassination. What happened was JFK
was killed taking a Parkland hospital in Dallas, pronounced dead.
The local jurisdiction had power, not the FEDS, and the
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locals were not up to it, and so as president
the new president LBJ ordered the FBI to go in
and they immediately did took the investigation over and they
kept voluminous notes. We had them all the first publication
ever get them. So there's no doubt in my mind.
Lee Harvey Oswell pull the trigger, killed JFK from the
(03:52):
book depository. He ordered the gun, was found prints on
the gun. He fled, He killed the police officer. You
wouldn't do that if you were some patsy okay.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And why was he Why was he killed? Is it
who he knew or who might have been involved in
a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
No, Jack Ruby had terminal cancer, He loved JFK.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
He went in and.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He shot Lee Corbioswoll And he had access because all
the cops in Dallas worked with Jack Ruby. They were
all involved with his strip club and all that. So
when I lay it out, you'll see how it makes perfect. Say,
we also got the ballistics report, and we got the
autopsy report, all of that.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But I will be looking at the By the way,
if the autopsy photos of JFK are online and available,
I don't think they ever should have been made available
that they are. They're so gruesome and it's so sad,
and you see all his brain matter hanging out. I mean,
it's terrible to look at I had a conversation off
(04:57):
the record. Well it wasn't off the record, it was
a conversation, a private conversation, and he's already made a
public I'm not disclosing anything new, but RFK actually has
taken the time to really study the assassination of his father,
and that's RFK Jr. And an RFK was the one assassinated.
(05:19):
What's so interesting is he went to the prison to
see the so called assassin, Sir hands. Sir Hand, he
is convinced that was not the assassin after meeting with
him and all the other evidence he's accumulated over the years.
What's your reaction to that?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's bull There were seven eye witnesses to shooting. Sir
Anserin admitted to it. Prince on a gun. You know, look,
people believe what they want to believe. And I feel
terrible for the Kennedy family. You and I both know
members of that family, and I have not made it
a crusade to go against Bobby Kennedy Junior's theory. I
(05:58):
actually noted it in one of my books, but it's
both Sir Hanshar did it. He is still in prison.
He'll be in prison forever and he should be.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
All right, let's move on to some other issues here,
Donald Trump. You know, forget about that first hundred days.
Let's look at the first hundred hours. I don't think
in our lifetime we've ever seen anybody move at the
speed of light that he's moving at on a variety
of issues successfully. And when I spend time with him,
and we both have known him thirty plus years, when
(06:32):
I spend time with him, it is very obvious. And
I asked him about this. I he is the most
relaxed I've ever seen him. Number one, He's the most
dialed in I've ever seen him. Number two, And he's
the most committed I've ever seen him. And the commitment
is to the agenda, the promises that he made to
(06:54):
the American people, and a desire to accomplish all of
it and more and exceed expectations. That's what I walked
away from after that interview with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I saw the interview. I use the word ferocity, so
you're absolutely right, not in the modern times, but in
any times. It's never been a president walks in the
White House and operates at warp speed the way mister
Trump is doing. Never and it's not even close. There's
no close second to it. Usually it's deliberations, it's meetings,
(07:29):
it's sorting out, it's deliberating, it's ruminating. There's none of that.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Two mistakes he made this week.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
One going to that prayer service because that woman's a nut.
The bishop, that episcopal and everybody knew it. Why why
that'd be like going over well, but you.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Could not have anticipated she would go down that road.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Though, come on, if I disagree one hundred percent, she
is an absolute left wing loon. That would be like
going to a service by al Sharpnon.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean it's time after time, the time at this woman,
and she's not subtle about it anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
By the way, you took a lot of heat years
ago for having lunch with ol Sharfton. I took a
lot of heat for debating ow Sharton.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I tried to forge day tent with that guy, but
he's a grifter. I gave him twenty five thousand dollars
because he ran out of money on Thanksgiving to feed
his folks up in Harlem. I never made that public,
but we gave him twenty five so he could buy
turkeys and food and distributed under the banner of his
National Action Committee, and I did it out of charity,
(08:32):
and that guy turned around and knifed me in the back.
He's an awful, disgusting human being. And that would be
like Trump walking inverse service with him. Because this bishop,
this episcopal bishop, is absolute disgrace what she did, the
disrespect she showed, and the absolute lives the way she
presented the merciful thing when both you and I know
(08:53):
that hundreds of thousands of Americans so I did because
of the open border. Did she mention that? Nope, she did.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You know what, Bill, I think I'm the only one
on TV, and I don't know if you've done it.
On Bill O'Reilly dot com. I would scroll the names
of every American murdered, and it's not just Lake and
Riley and Rachel Morin and Joscelyn and Hungary, but there
are hundreds of them, and the Americans raped, including children
and victims of other violent crimes. And we have terrorists,
(09:21):
cartel members, and gang members in our country. And for
her to make that lecture in front of the President
was beyond despicable and repulsive.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Where's the mercy there? But I'm glad it happened so
Americans can see it, and I was mistake number one minor,
And then I would have done the judge.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Reviewing the violence against the cops at JAY six. That's
the way I would have handled that, because there's some
bad people there that got part and so you and
know what, I know what. Everybody knows it now. I
understand why the President did it, and I don't think
it's going to haunt them politically. I think people will
forget about it mostly. But you know, both you and
(10:06):
I have something in common. Hey, I hate to admit it,
but we want public servants to do the right thing.
Would that be an accurate statement?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Very accurate? Of course. I want them to serve the
people of this country, the people that make the country great.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Sometimes you don't you and I don't see the right thing.
You know, we disagree on it, but we both want
to do the right thing, and we want our public
servants to do it as well. I don't think letting
some really bad people out of jail at cop Tac
cops the right thing. Simple. I'm a simple man.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
The argument and the answer that the President gave because
I did ask him that question was actually pretty interesting
and profound. And if you look at it through the
prism of how much time they spent in jail, how
much time they were sentenced to jail compared to other people.
For example, go back to the summer of twenty twenty
five hundred and seventy four Riot's Bill, and they were
(11:01):
all riots. They were labeled as riots. You had dozens
of dead Americans, thousands of cops pelted with bricks, rocks, bottles,
molotov cocktails, and you had billions of property damage. We
had all of the evidence in the world, videotaped evidence
of the people that were responsible. How many bill how
many people do you think Bill were held accountable? And
(11:22):
what about the vice president at the time or running
for vice president, Kamala Harris saying the rioters won't stop,
the rioters shouldn't stop, and we're not going to stop.
And nobody ever investigated any of that bill. You do
need equal justice and equal application of our laws. They
did pay a price, a very dear price for their
(11:42):
actions that day. Those people that were violent, there were
a whole bunch of other people that did absolutely nothing.
Maybe the worst thing they did was walk into the
Capitol and took videos, and those people did not deserve
to be treated the way they were treated. And by
the way, a lot of the information on J six
was not told the American people. We know for a
fact that five people testified and our witnesses that Donald
(12:05):
Trump called up and was willing to call up ten
thousand Guard troops. We know in writing Muriel Bowser, who
had the authority, denied in writing those troops. We know
that the Capitol Police Chief Son was begging for troops.
We know that Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, the Sergeant of Arms,
they didn't do a darn thing. So if Donald Trump
really wanted an insurrection, I doubt he would have approved
(12:27):
ten thousand National Guard troops.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
No sane person or fair on a person believes that
President Trump wanted that to happen. But again, you come
back to the right thing. And I think, you know,
when I talked and I talked to a lot of
police officers about this, and I see, who did you
think about it that because they're on the front line,
and about eighty percent of them said no. I think
we would have liked to have more definition on those
(12:51):
people before they get to part And and I think that
would have been the right thing to do. But again, look,
it's emotional. Donald Trump made a promise, and what I'd
like to see him follow up on is there was
prosecutorial misconduct directed at some people who got into this
fracas and got punished far beyond their crime. I'd like
(13:14):
to see some of that uncovered, because we, as you said,
we don't know that. I had a guy on last
night on the No Spin News who said, look, I
was just a photographer. I was just taking pictures and
I was in the group. I never stepped foot in
the Capitol. I was on a property and they made me,
you know, under threat of felony, sign a flea for
(13:37):
a misdemeanor and now I have this on my jacket
and it was ridiculous. That's the kind of stuff that
we should go back and look at because the prosecutors
who did that should be hell accountable.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think you agree with him, right, I totally agree
with that, and I think getting to the bottom of
it was smart. I'd like the fact that they're going
to now both Comer and Jim Jor are committed to
going into the Biden family on finding out whether Joe
Biden got monies from these foreign business deals. We know
(14:09):
he lied when he said he never talked to his
son and his brother or anybody for that matter. We
know that money, according to Hunter's laptop, went to Joe.
And they've given up their Fifth Amendment rights. They can't
plead the Fifth and they'll have to testify. And similarly,
all the JA six committee members and doctor Fauci, they
all need to come up and testify as well, and
(14:30):
they don't have the Fifth Amendment right that they had
having gotten and accepted a pardon. Mister Riley, it's great
to have you. Hope you are having a great new year.
We wish you the very best, and thank you for
being with us.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You know, I'm not the biggest fan of everybody in Hollywood.
There are a lot of people that I know, and
a lot of people I respect, and a lot of
people that I like. And there are even people that
have different political views than me. They're very talented, gifted people,
and I just like talented people. I don't really care
what your politics are, but anyway, so one such person
(15:07):
is going to join us in a minute, Craig T. Nelson,
and he's got a new movie. We want to tell
you about whenever I see a good movie, Whenever I
know there's a good movie out there, I want to
support it. Because there's so few good movies that we
can all see, that your family can see, that you
want to see, that you want to spend your limited
time watching. I mean, it just doesn't exist. But anyway,
(15:30):
I happen to be a fan of his, and I
think he's done a great job. I mean, when you
look at his resume, it's pretty amazing. He's worked with
Diane Keaton, Jane Fonda, Candice Bergen, He's worked with Matthew McConaughey,
Will Ferrell, Kevin Hart, Let's see, Tommy Lee Jones, Ben Affleck,
Kevin Costner. I mean, and Ryan Reynolds is hardly anybody
(15:54):
hasn't worked with Sarah Jessica Parker and I can go
on and on, and he just has had an amazing career.
And anyway, he has a he's an actor, writer, director,
and he's got a new movie out. He plays Buck
in the upcoming movie called Greening Gold. And anyway, we
welcome to the program. Craig T. Nelson, Sir, how are
(16:16):
you what a career you've had and it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Actually, well it's pretty amazing. Yeah, it is. Seana been variclessed.
And I just want to tell you, by the way,
great job on the interview in the Oval office. And
also I wanted to tell you a remember electure night
and you came on with that kind of out of
the blue prediction and I was watching and I was stunned.
(16:40):
I mean because at the time it didn't reveal any
of the information that you were sharing, and yet here
you go. It hit right, the nail was right on
the head.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know, you want me to tell you the secret,
I'm going to tell I can tell you the secret.
The secret was is every day there's early voting, and
every day I got those numbers, and every night after
the TV show, I would study those numbers. And I
actually went on with Dana Perino and Bill Hammer at
nine am on election day morning and I said, starting
(17:11):
out today, Kamala has a math problem because she was
down about seven hundred thousand votes from where Joe Biden
was in twenty twenty in Pennsylvania, she was down forty
five percent in Wisconsin. She was down so low in
Georgia and North Carolina that there was no way, even
with record turnout that I thought she could come back.
(17:34):
So I felt really good about it, but I did
not want to communicate that to this audience, because you know,
at the end of the day turnout on election day
that's still going to be you know, sixty percent of
the votes, so you can't take anything for granted. But
I felt pretty confident going into that day, and that
by that time at night, I'd been checking in all
day with Democratic strongholds and they were not seeing the
(17:55):
record turnout that they would have needed to win. I
appreciate you noticing that. It's amazing actually how many people
told me they saw it. But I want to talk
about you. You've had such an amazing career, and I
want to talk about this new movie because I love
the Premisol whole thing. You star as Buck, a fourth
generation dairy farmer, and I love dairy farmer. I love farmers,
(18:18):
I love truckers, I love ranchers. And we don't think
a lot about it, but they feed us and they
make sure that our refrigerators are full every day, and
we don't. We don't give them enough credit. But this
is an independent film, Green and Gold, and anyway, it's
you're facing foreclosure, which is not an uncommon situation for
(18:40):
people that own farms. You wager everything you have on
the Green Bay Packers and a Hail Mary to save
this little chunk of dirt, this farm, and anyway, it's
an amazing story, but it's really rooted in real life
for far too many small farmers in this country.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It's you know, my family farm goes back to eighteen sixty.
They're still in South Dakota, the Nelson farm, and they
went from sixty acres to two hundred, you know, twenty
two hundred acres, but twenty two hundred, not all of it,
but it is there, some of us rented. But the
beauty of that is to me, Sean, the beauty of
who the these people are is in there is in
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their heart, their tenacity and their hope, if you will,
resiliency and their optimism. I mean, they are truly. I
was just talking to the man that runs a farm
last night, Bob Nelson, and we were talking, and the
gift that I get when I'm speaking to him or
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other family members that are farming, is this kind of
heartfelt truthfulness. There's a there's a beauty about them. There's
no facade, there's none of this dancing around an issue.
There right in the middle of it, there's seven days
a week. They work hard there. The mark are very
very small, as you know, but there are people of
(20:04):
the Lion, and they're Americans, and it's just a wonderful
glimpse into I think what the referendum was in our
political year this year. America does have a resiliency and
a hope and an expectation. That is why this country
(20:26):
is so great.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
One of the things that really really frustrated me, disappointed
me is after Hurricane Helene, and it was a very
underreported story. We spent a lot of time talking about
it on this show, a lot of time talking about
it on TV, especially in areas in South Carolina Tennessee,
but more specifically in the northwestern part of North Carolina.
(20:50):
They got devastated by Hurricane Helene and parts of my
home state of Florida as well, and then they that
got followed up by Hurricane Milton and a lot of
property damage. My understanding is, I think you live out
in California, you've been watching these wildfires. It is inexplicable
to me that the science of forestry is not practiced
(21:10):
out there. It's inexplicable and unexcusable that hydrants don't have
water in them, that reservoirs are empty. The finger pointing
has been on a magnitude that I can't even believe.
And it seems that anybody that says, Okay, we're going
to help the people of California, but they've they've got
to prevent this from happening again is somehow an evil person.
(21:33):
It's not. We're trying to prevent future tragedies that are predictable.
Santa Ana winds are predictable, and wildfires in California are predictable,
aren't they.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well yeah, I mean we've did through quite a few.
They're probably more recent and more frequent than ever because
of the climate. But also the as you mentioned, I mean,
the management, the budget cuts and forest management and what
needs to be done to protect you. And also you
know you've got the devastation, Sean, when you see it
(22:06):
is absolutely incomprehensible. I mean, it's just on a scale
you wouldn't believe I think it. But is it The
reclamation that rebuild is up to two hundred and fifty
billion somehow, I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
It's an insane amount of money. And for the people
in North Carolina. I mean FEMA was going to kick
them out two Fridays ago, out of their temporary housing
if they didn't fill out the proper paperwork. I mean,
it's freezing coals in that area of North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, it's easier issues that need to be addressed, and
they haven't been. They've been left on the back burner
and they've been you know, we've voted in twenty fourteen
for adequate reservoirs, that there's been a water shortage proclamation
given in California, and yet at the same time you're
dealing with in the Woolsy fire which hit Malibu, we
(22:55):
didn't have water and we didn't have water drops and
we didn't have so it was less to burn for
the most part, if you will. So you know there's
a fight going on. But again, you know, there is
a really resiliency among the people here and the desire
to rebuild in some form, and I would like to
(23:16):
see that not only enabled, but somehow that they're given
a pathway that's a lot quicker than the bureaucracy that
we've had to deal with for so long.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But this kind of fits into your movie in this sense.
I really, I really do feel that the people that
make this country great are not people that are in
the public eye. And I'm sure people ask you for
a selfie. They asked me for a selfie, and I'm
always I'm grateful to do grateful to people that give
(23:50):
me this microphone every day, in that camera every night,
and give me an opportunity to express my views and
and basically follow my dream in life. But the people
that really make this country great, the unsung heroes, are
the people that grow our food, that the ranchers that
put meat on our table, the truckers that deliver it
(24:11):
and fill those store shelves for us, and the entire
supply chain line. And you're talking about a very real
situation in this movie Green and Gold, where there are
small farmers have been squeezed out. They've been pressured to
sell their land for development, but they want to keep
in the farming business. And here you're in a situation
(24:33):
in this movie where you're going to lay it all
on the line on the Green Bay Packers, which, by
the way, is not necessarily always the best bet. I'm
just saying Greenmad Packers are fine. I bet you're probably
a part owner. However, you put it all on the line.
And I know people that have done things like that
and have succeeded, and I know people in life that
(24:56):
have done things like that and have failed. And I'm
not going to give I'm not going to let people
know the outcome of the movie because I don't think
it's fair. I don't want to be you know, a
spoiler alert here, I'm not giving it to you.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Well, yeah, no, it's so true, isn't it. I mean,
they are they unsung, They're not heard their voice, although
they did speak up, didn't they. I think we've heard
from them louder and clear, and I think there's cautious optimism,
and I love the fact that they're so generous and
so giving, and the community aspect of it is something
(25:28):
that we've lost because we were given twenty four to seven,
the fact that we're not that great, and that we've
done this and we're that there's a whole range of
people out there that are servicing our needs and our
wants and demands. Not to mention the fact that they're
faith based. They have a belief in not only America,
(25:50):
but a belief in a god that they trust them
and want to pass on to the family. And I
think as.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Had Hollywood lost a lot of their connection to the
men and women in this country that are great. I
mean I find so many movies. I have more selections
than ever before, and I find myself more often than
not saying this is crap. I'd rather just turn the
TV off and go to bed. I mean, it frustrates
me because I'd love to watch a good movie.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Well, you know, Sean, it's like anything else, it's where
the money is, and they think, and of course the
box office is down right now quite a bit, but
at the same time, it's individually. As an actor in
this business, you choose those projects that you think people
would want to see, and I try to stay away
(26:42):
from anything dark and I think, and I think any
promotion of anything that I don't believe in. So you
pick and choose.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
It's so funny you're saying that because I won't watch
dark anything anymore. Like these series that get very dark,
I don't watch them anymore. I love this series that choose.
Did you ever watch that?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh? I know Dallas very well and Dallas Jenkins, the director, producer,
creator of the show, and you know, it's fantastic and
I love what's being done on there and who they're
bringing that message to. And I would just hope that
he can devote, you know, a person can devote what
they believe in and their belief system and then find
(27:23):
an outlet for it.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, and you know what, people people are finding it
and they're watching it. And Droves, I've been a fan
of yours for a long time. We've never had the
opportunity to talk. I wish you all the best. His
new movie, Craig ten Nelson, is coming out. It's called
Green and Gold, and he plays Buck, a farmer about
to lose his farm and he bets everything on the
(27:45):
packers and you'll have to watch the movie to get
the outcome. Craig, we appreciate it, man, Thank you, come
back again.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Hannedy, thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
You're a great American. Eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn
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