July 28, 2025 • 28 mins
Sean continues the conversation with Jason Chaffetz on the deepening investigation into the Russia collusion narrative. As Tulsi Gabbard and John Ratcliffe release previously unseen documents, the implications for Brennan, Comey, and even Obama himself grow more severe. Chaffetz argues the Statute of Limitations may not shield key figures and insists the case could soon land on a prosecutor’s desk. Sean also responds to disturbing social media Holocaust denialism and reflects on the dangerous rise of historical revisionism on college campuses and online.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Dan Mangino this weekend, I will never be the same
after learning what I have learned, I can confirm it
has everything to do with what Tulsea Gabbard has been
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releasing and declassifying, and everything to do with the Grand
conspiracy that is now beginning to take shape and to unfold.
We have a lot of news on this, and we
have Jason Chafitz, who was actively involved on the Oversight
Committee at the time and was a very integral part
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of getting out a lot of the information in real time.
What's interesting and kind of fascinating to watch unfold here
is you got the Obama team now quietly trying to
stop you the American people, from actually hearing about these revelations,
or they're just flat out lying in missing them, which
is predictable. We have the CIA Director John Ratcliffe suggesting
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that Clinton Brennan won't have the Statute of Limitations protection
in the Russia gay case. The CIA director also confirming
this deep state plot and how it lives on and
more declassification is coming. Tulsey Gabbard at the dni unleashing
a fury at Obama over his failure to squash what
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she's calling treasonous a Russian conspiracy, and Senator Lindsey Graham
saying new evidence requires a special counsel probe in the case.
And so there's just a lot of moving pieces that
are happening really, really quickly here. Victor Davis Hansen had
a great point in this, and that is damning. Data
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dump exposes Obama's complicity, and that really gets to the
heart of it is they got intelligence from senior intelligence
officials going, you know, six weeks after the election in
twenty sixteen, that said no, there was no Russian interference.
They didn't like the intelligence community assessment, so they just
decided to change it in spite of a lot of
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protesting from those people that put it together and warned
them that what they were doing was false and that
they shouldn't do it. And now the Obama allies are
hoping the American public will never learn the details. I
don't think they can stop this freight train. This freight
train moving is at the speed of light light at
this point, and it's including Tulsea Gabbard, CIA Director John Ratcliffe,
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FBI Director Cash Battel, Deputy Director Dan Bongino, the Attorney
General Pam Bondi, all investigating the origins of what has
been one of the biggest lies. And Bongino's not wrong
in saying that for this republic to continue, you cannot
have deep state operatives. And I've been using my same analogy.
(02:56):
I think it's applicable people that want to roy a
duly elected president with lies and using the power that
they are entrusted with to do so, or in the
case of twenty twenty, you know, putting cinder blocks on
the scale of an election after they verify the authenticity
of a very real laptop, that being that of Hunter Biden. Anyway,
(03:19):
Jason chaffis author of kind of Appropriate They're coming for you,
How deep state spies, NGOs and woke corporations plan to
push you out of the economy anyway. Former Oversight Committee
Chair Jason Chaffits, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh thanks, Sean.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
All right, let's let's talk about what we hear, what
we see, and where is this going.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Hopefully all the way to a prosecutor's desk and somebody
who actually gets prosecuted because I think the fraud that
was perpetuated and pushed on the American people, it just
doesn't This is why I think a guy like Don
Dan Bongino, who's seen a lot, said, look it, this
shakes me to my core. And part of that what
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I would add, because you're one hundred percent right on
all of this, Sean, are these spies of warrants because
they use the police powers, then they use this bogus
document to apply to the court to be able to
spy on people. And when you do so, the document
that you actually use says that the very top verified
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and so if you can further prove that they knew
it was false or should have known that it was
false and they fraudulently go before the court and make
that representation. You know, you can't do that in this country.
And there is going to be accountability, and hopefully that
accountability starts out. That is but just one of the things.
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But you have John Ratcliffe, who remember was on the
Intel Committee. Prior to Congress, he was a US attorney
for terrorism cases. He was the director of National Intelligence
in Trump's first administration. Now he's the director of the CIA.
He's been able to unearth documents we've never previously seen.
(05:07):
That's why I think he foreshadowed that in the next
few days we should be seeing information that has never
been seen before.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, well, based on what Tulci Gabbert is declassified, what
is your take on all of this? To me, it
is as damning as it can get. Is that they
purposefully went out there and changed senior career intelligence that
officials analysis of twenty sixteen, and they did it on purpose.
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They did it to sabotage Trump. They did it based
on a document they knew to be phony and fraudulent,
that is the Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian
disinformation dossier. And Colly has a different issue because Comy
signed three of the four PHISA warrants, and he used
as the basis for those warrants. The bulk of information
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was from that dirty, unverified and unverifiable and now and
totally debunked by December of twenty sixteen. Dossier is the
bulk of information. He signed two more BYZA warrants even
after he knew it was debunked.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, and that again there if this conspiracy comes together
the way John Radcliffe is foreshadowing, you know, those are
issues that can be prosecuted. I think the other thing
that was I've never heard somebody, you know, go to
the White House podium and say out loud, which was
Tulcy Gabbert talking about President Barack Obama him personally be
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involved and this that is a stunning revelation. Now remember
during the Obama administration. Yeah, yeah, Barack Obama going around saying, oh,
I have scandal free administration. I mean everything from Fast
and Furious and the use of the IRS. But how
about all the spying on James Rosen, spying on the
Associated Press and tapping into what they're doing. So it's
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not a real leap to think that maybe they did
go out and spy on Trump or Trump's administration. That's
an open question. I think it's an allegation, but at
this point, but that foreshadows and portends that, you know,
there's a lot more to this at that time. And
remember it's mid December twenty sixteen when Donald Trump as
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the president elect is going to start getting the presidential briefings.
But curiously it's just the week before that. Then you
have Barack Obama evidently directing the band there, Hey, we
need to go back and change this assessment. That's where
the scramble with the senior officials are trying to cover
up their tracks because the unthinkable happened. Donald Trump actually
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got elected, and they were afraid that eventually he would
see this. And I think that's coming to play right now.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Why do you believe or do you believe as others
that the statute of limitations are not applicable? And do
you see where cash Bettel he had announced that there's
a grand conspiracy investigation, because I would argue the weaponization
of the Department of Justice in it all from twenty
twenty to twenty twenty four was all designed even to
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bloody up Donald Trump to the point he could not
run for a second term at that point. I do
believe that what they did by nobody had ever seen
the Hunter Biden laptop, the FBI had verified its authenticity
of March to twenty twenty. They did go out and
pre bunk it. Is that not putting cinder blocks on
the scale of an election and having deep state operatives
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manipulate an election. Because had this come out and they
verified its authenticity. No way Joe Biden could have won
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
No, I don't. And you know, Donald Trump said in
real time some of these things that were happening, and
there were a lot of us, even in Congress, like
where is this information? How do we get it? Well,
it ends up we were asking for it, we were subpoenaing,
we were looking for it. It's just the Obama administration
and subsequently the Biden administration they were hiding it. And
so even if we issued a subpoena and asked for
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this information, they just weren't providing it. You have question
about the Statute of Limitations. My understanding, having heard this
from Brett Tolman, a former US attorney, also from John Ratcliffe,
the starting clock on the Statute of the Limitation starts
at the very last act of the perpetuation of that conspiracy.
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But there is testimony, multiple testimonies, that happened in Congress
after twenty twenty that you had Intel Committee, you had
other committees, you had subcommittees asking questions of these players
and these people, and is Trey Goudy and others point
out they were just flat out line to us. And
again Trey GOUDI was also on the Intel Committee. He
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knew he was asking those questions. Brenner, he knew the
answer to those questions, and he just I mean, he
is very adamant that he just lied and lied to Congress.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So tell me what shape this takes for mean, it's
not like to me, the foundation is already there and
now we're putting on top of the foundation. We're beginning
to build out this entire case and with it now
we have smoking gun evidence. As the declassification process moves forward,
it would seem to me that somebody in a fairly
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short order could probably put it all together. Is that
naivete of my part to think it could happen quickly?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I think it is. I think that's the reason why
John Ratcliffe went on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bardi
Romo and said as much. I mean, he made it
sound like this was day's way. Does it take a
week or two? Maybe, But a guy like that, a
real true professional, is not going to go out and
foreshadow it to that degree without something that is pending.
And while he doesn't explicitly say it, my reading of
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the between the lines on Dan Bongino is that he
has also now seen it. And you know, you got
to give time for these prosecutors to put the whole
case stop the bottom because they're going to fight the
national media. They had to fight him every single step
of the way. But they've got to be able to
make the case clearly to the American people and show
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how all of these elements come together. You've been covering
this for years. You know, your friend Greg Jared wrote
a book on this.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
For goodness sake, but he wrote he wrote two books
on this, Let's be Real, and they were both number
one best sellers. It's frustrating to me. There were not
many of us that were digging deep, and we were
right there. We had it. It's the only thing we
didn't have was the declassified information, which offers full, complete
vindication and validation of everything that we did. It was
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three years of work, and Jason, you were on the
program a lot talking about it with us, as was
Trey Goudy, as was John Solomon, Greg Jarrett, Catherine Herridge
at the time, Sarah Carter at the time, and Jim
Jordan and Mark Meadows, Matt Gets. I mean, I'm just
giving the names of the people that were the most helpful.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Well, look, we were talking to whistleblowers, people who had
seen and were aware of this information. But what seems
to be new what the director of the CIA is saying,
is now there handwritten notes and other things that could
be declassified. You get be really careful because we take
in this nation very sensitive information sources and methods making
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sure that we don't expose somebody who is in peril.
And that work sounds like it has been done over
the last six months because John Rackle has got a
running start at this having been been through that. That's
why it's coming to fruition now. That's why I think
it's on the verge of a breaking loose.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
All right, this case getting blown wide open. How far
does it go? Will people be arrested? We'll get an
answer from Jason Chafitz on the other side. Don't forget
his new book. They're coming for you. How deep state spies, NGOs,
woke corporations plan to push you out of the economy.
Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores around the country.
More with Jason than your calls eight hundred nine four
(12:53):
one Sean. If you want to be a part of
the program this Monday, Jason Chafit's his new book, By
the Way, is out there coming for you you Hannity
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I don't like over promising and under delivering, and Epstein
would be a case where I think people thought something
was going to be coming, and by the way, there
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might be things coming. I'm still withholding judgment more than
other people are, and still confident. I have confidence in Pambondi,
Cash Bettel, Tambongino and others to get to the bottom
of this. I just wanted to play out a little
more before I make a definitive statement on it. But
that's kind of been my moo. When it's not a
lot of other people's mos, they just kind of rush
to judgment. But do you really believe we can tell
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people with the high degree of confidence that they'll be
held accountable.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, look, I believe I've known Tulsa Gabbard for twelve years.
I've known John Ratcliffe for longer than that. These are
people that I associated with on a daily basis, and
I find them to be reasonable, not hyperbolic. I don't
think they would go before the world with cameras rolling
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and foreshadow to degree that they did with unless they
have something real. So yeah, I mean temper expectations, I guess,
but I didn't expect them to come out with this
in such a bold statement. But they've I'm repeating what
they've said, and that gives me great hope.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
We appreciate your time as always in the great work
that you've done. I have a funny feeling we will
be talking to you a lot in the days and
weeks and probably months ahead anyway. Jason Chafitz, thank you
so much. Congratulations by the way, on your book. They're
coming for you. How deep state spies, NGOs, woke corporations
plan to push you out of the economy. Hannity dot com,
(14:42):
Amazon dot com, and bookstores around the country. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Thanks Sean.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
There is something a disturbing trend that I see out
there that needs to be addressed. I'm not sure where
can why it's why it's getting this bad, why people
are buying into this the you know, I brought this
up on Patrick but David's podcast a little bit it
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came up, and that is there is Holocaust denialism out
there at a level. I've never seen before. Now we
know the squad. We know that anti Semitism has been
on the rise in the halls of Congress, we know
that it's been on the rise worldwide. We know that
it's been on the rise on college campuses. Now it's
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on the rise in terms of new media and young
social media influencers. I mean, even going as far is
to blame Jewish people for Hitler targeting them in the Holocaust,
and this denialism that Winston Churchill was not one of
the greatest heroes of all time, because long before anybody
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else saw it, he saw what Hitler was capable of.
And you know at Neville Chamberlain, Oh, he meets some
Munich with Hitler, and he comes back to Great Britain
and declares there will be peace at our time. No,
there's not. And well, but Western civilization has deteriorated. Well,
that's the responsibility of every generation thereafter, because Iss Reagan
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admonished us all freedom is but one generation away from extinction.
And so the idea that Winston Churchill didn't rally a
world against you know, the evils of Nazism and fascism
and imperial Japan and Stalin and Russia and all these
(16:39):
different You know, if you look at the last century,
over one hundred million human souls plus were murdered in
the name of some ism. I didn't think we'd have
to go back and relitigate World War Two. My dad
fought in the Pacific for four long years. But this
is just a sampling of theanity and history revisionism that's
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going on now.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Listen, what if the Jewish did something to the Germans
that made them at a certain way, but nobody wants
to talk about it, Like the Jews don't want to
take accountability.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, okay, that's why.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
That's why, Like that was up to something, so the
Germans wanted to take them out, like there had to
be something, Like Germans wanted to take them out.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
All of that myself, they started it. It's like it's
somebody that talking about the.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Holocaust was the only way he can take out a
huge population, like a huge amount of Jews all in
one setting. But I already know what's going on, Like
I'm not dumb, Like I know, like the Jews did something,
that's why they sent up here. They're trying to take back,
like they're trying to take back and get repercussions, especially
from America, like from Americans. So they're taking over the
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government and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'm telling you, how do we take them down? How
do we take them down? Yeah? I mean to.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Say Hitler, he had the plan, but his plan was
just too like very like cruesome.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
To do, but saved the world. I mean, Jews.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Jews are the reason why this the healthcare system and
everything around us and the government is collapsing because they're
seeing up here stilling away from American people.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
The Jews are responsible for the healthcare system in this country.
You know, what, what did the Jews do to cause
Adolf Hitler to want to annihilate them? You know, one
of the one of the things that we do have
going back even as early as you know, the nineteen forties,
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we do have videotape of what actually happened in these
death camps. And you're looking at men, women and children
that were slaughtered for no reason at all except for
the fact that they were Jewish, or they were gay,
or they were Catholic, and that they didn't fit into
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this this you know, aryan mentality, this sick, twisted, disgustingly repulsive,
evil mindset of Hitler. Over six million Jews were slaughtered,
and I'm listening to this and they're justifying it is
the Holocaust was the only way that and that what
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Hitler do and he you know, he had to do
what he had to do, and somehow rationalizing away mash
death and murder. What has happened to people that could
be that sick, ugly, evil and twisted and justify what
was the only description of this is evil and not
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recognizing the heroism of all of those people that fought
back to defeat these forces of evil in a time,
because I don't know what the world would look like
had we lost World War Two. Pretty nauseating. Let's get
to our busy phones. Eight hundred and ninety four one,
Shawn is our number. If you want to be a
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part of the program. Uh Ron in Oklahoma, Ron High.
How are you glad you called? What'd you think of
that tape?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah? Right, Well, you don't have to throw a rock
very far down, you know, and not hit an idiot.
I'll tell you what I was. Linda really got me
excited the other day whenever she was talking about becoming
the vice president, and I thought.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Oh Jesus, we're going back to this. We we this
has got to stop. Nobody is asking me to run
for president, and I said if I did, it would
only be if Trump, except if Trump would be my
vice president. And Linda was offended.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, I've got a better position for ag. She seems
like she has a fire in her belly, and we
need one. We've been putting up with this three or
four tiered system of justice for fifteen or twenty years now,
and people are sick of it.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
She's not a lawyer. She has a lot of master's degrees,
but one of them is not a doctorate of law.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Henry Ford was not a brilliant man, either, but he
knew how to hire people.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
It was. I didn't say she's not brilliant. I just
said she doesn't have a doctorate of law. I would
think that would be a prerequisite if you're going to
be the Attorney General of the United States.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well, apparently you're against her.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'm not against her. I said I would make her
communications director and White House Press Secretary for as long
as she could hold the job. But I fear she
might break Anthony Scaramucci's record.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah. Well, my point is, I'm like millions of other
Americans that want to see somebody go to jail, and
I don't see it happening, and I haven't seen it
happening for years and years because of buzzwords like we're
going to try to, you know, in things of this nature,
nobody tries to.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I reported all this, all of this information on the
Russia hoax, everything about Hunter Biden's laptop. I spent years
on this program, years on Hannity, no expectation at all
that I could that I could get this over the
finish line. This is the first time I have some
real hope that there might be some accountability, and so
(22:41):
I'm just I do trust this group of people a
lot more than any other group than we've ever had,
and I have more hope that we'll get there. But
I think you hear where I'm coming from.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
We don't trust them at all.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Sean so Well, I do trust me. I trust President Trump,
I trust Pam BONDI cash for Tell, Dan Bongino. I've
known all of them for decades.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I remember when Hillary was debating Trump there at one
of the primaries. She said, I can't picture in the
United States under this man's authority, and he looked at
her and said, well, for one thing, you'd be in jail.
That's been a long time ago. And everybody laughed and
thought it was funny and it boy, it was a
great comeback. But he told the truth and nothing's happening.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
What this man has been through and what we're discovering,
it was all designed to destroy him and sabotage his presidency.
It was all designed to prevent him from winning in
twenty twenty. All the lawfair was designed to bloody him
up to such a degree that he could never be
a viable candidate in twenty four. This is all stuff
that we reported, the fact that this man was able
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to not only withstand it, but fight back against it
day in and day. Could you imagine the four years
for Donald Trump from twenty to twenty four and what
that was like. I know what it was like because
I was in touch with him regularly. And if you
think those were four good years of his life, I
can promise you they were not. And I can tell
you that it was. He was willing to put it
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all on the line for God and country and for
the American people, and he rolled the dice. It was
he put everything on the line. It was either the
White House or was going to be the Big House.
There was no in between, and nobody will ever convince
me otherwise, which makes me like him and admire him
even more. Anyway, my friend, I appreciate it. Thank you
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so much for being out there right quick break, right back.
We'll get to your calls. Eight hundred and nine four one,
Shawn our number this Monday, as we continue on.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
The final hour, roundup is next.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
You do not want to miss it, and stay tuned
for the final hour free for all on the Sean
Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
All right, back to our busy phones, eight hundred and
nine four one show, And if you want to be
a part of the program, let's say hi to Brad.
He's in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Brad, how are you
glad you called?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Thank you for taking my call showing you're a great American.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What's going on? So you are a great American?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Before thank you? Before I get to my point, you
and Levin knocked it out last night.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
That was a terrific show.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You liked that. It was fun to do. I enjoyed it.
I really did. The great Ones. New book on power
is I must read for everybody. He's going to be
on the show tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, he's terrific too.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So the reason I called, as you said, I'm in Pennsylvania,
so I'm not voting in New York City, but.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
If I were, I wouldn't think about voting for this
mom Dammi guy until he stops being such a hypocrite
and practice what he preaches.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
By that I'm talking about, he wants to defund the
police and replace some of social workers. He needs to
dismantle his security detail or really same with social workers.
Wouldn't even think about voting for him until he did.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm going to tell you this guy is he's just
bad news. I mean, there's no other way to put it.
You know, there's a reason why the Democratic parties disapproval
rating now is at a thirty five year low, and
I don't see them recovering from this. By the way,
mister man of the people is Zoron Mamdani throwing a
multi million dollar wedding bash for you know, as he
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got married against this weekend in When do you get married? Uganda?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You know, is this scene right out of the twenty
eight teen, you know, like a movie. It was just insane. Anyway,
this this weddingness. Past weekend, Socialist New York City mayoral
front runner Zoron Mamdani, you know, celebrates his recent nuptials
with a lavish three day affair at the family's richie
He secluded ugandhan compound. Im like, wow, really a man
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of the people. But by the way, isn't that how socialism, statism,
communism really works. And that is that the I and
Mighty they live one way, and we little peons, we
live a different way. You know, a system for the
for them, and then a whole other system for us.
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It's just like we get stuck with Obamacare and meanwhile
Congress you know, renders that they are not subject to
the same law. I mean, it's it's such hypocrisy. Man
of the people, good grief.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
It's do as I say, not as I do.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, really well said, really well, said Brad. A lot
of good things coming to Pennsylvania. You saw the President's
press conference a couple of weeks ago. I'm excited for Pennsylvania.
I'm really happy for you. I think you're going to
have real economic growth. There, huge job opportunities for the
great people in your commonwealth. And I'm really excited for you.
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I want everybody to have a shot at the American dream.
I've had a shot at the American dream, as unpredictable
as my life has been, and I never thought I'd
be successful at anything. To be honest, I just knew
I liked radio when I got behind a radio mic.
And the idea, high paying career jobs for people that
really do make this country great. That makes me so happy.
(28:17):
For those families, nice house saved, neighborhood, good schools, You
know a car or a truck that you want, vacation,
going out to dinner on a weekend, not having to
worry about paying for it, saving for your retirement, just
the basics. Everybody should have it.
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Dan Mangino this weekend, I will never be the same
after learning what I have learned, I can confirm it
has everything to do with what Tulsea Gabbard has been
(00:22):
releasing and declassifying, and everything to do with the Grand
conspiracy that is now beginning to take shape and to unfold.
We have a lot of news on this, and we
have Jason Chafitz, who was actively involved on the Oversight
Committee at the time and was a very integral part
(00:43):
of getting out a lot of the information in real time.
What's interesting and kind of fascinating to watch unfold here
is you got the Obama team now quietly trying to
stop you the American people, from actually hearing about these revelations,
or they're just flat out lying in missing them, which
is predictable. We have the CIA Director John Ratcliffe suggesting
(01:05):
that Clinton Brennan won't have the Statute of Limitations protection
in the Russia gay case. The CIA director also confirming
this deep state plot and how it lives on and
more declassification is coming. Tulsey Gabbard at the dni unleashing
a fury at Obama over his failure to squash what
(01:27):
she's calling treasonous a Russian conspiracy, and Senator Lindsey Graham
saying new evidence requires a special counsel probe in the case.
And so there's just a lot of moving pieces that
are happening really, really quickly here. Victor Davis Hansen had
a great point in this, and that is damning. Data
(01:48):
dump exposes Obama's complicity, and that really gets to the
heart of it is they got intelligence from senior intelligence
officials going, you know, six weeks after the election in
twenty sixteen, that said no, there was no Russian interference.
They didn't like the intelligence community assessment, so they just
decided to change it in spite of a lot of
(02:10):
protesting from those people that put it together and warned
them that what they were doing was false and that
they shouldn't do it. And now the Obama allies are
hoping the American public will never learn the details. I
don't think they can stop this freight train. This freight
train moving is at the speed of light light at
this point, and it's including Tulsea Gabbard, CIA Director John Ratcliffe,
(02:34):
FBI Director Cash Battel, Deputy Director Dan Bongino, the Attorney
General Pam Bondi, all investigating the origins of what has
been one of the biggest lies. And Bongino's not wrong
in saying that for this republic to continue, you cannot
have deep state operatives. And I've been using my same analogy.
(02:56):
I think it's applicable people that want to roy a
duly elected president with lies and using the power that
they are entrusted with to do so, or in the
case of twenty twenty, you know, putting cinder blocks on
the scale of an election after they verify the authenticity
of a very real laptop, that being that of Hunter Biden. Anyway,
(03:19):
Jason chaffis author of kind of Appropriate They're coming for you,
How deep state spies, NGOs and woke corporations plan to
push you out of the economy anyway. Former Oversight Committee
Chair Jason Chaffits, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh thanks, Sean.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
All right, let's let's talk about what we hear, what
we see, and where is this going.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Hopefully all the way to a prosecutor's desk and somebody
who actually gets prosecuted because I think the fraud that
was perpetuated and pushed on the American people, it just
doesn't This is why I think a guy like Don
Dan Bongino, who's seen a lot, said, look it, this
shakes me to my core. And part of that what
(04:05):
I would add, because you're one hundred percent right on
all of this, Sean, are these spies of warrants because
they use the police powers, then they use this bogus
document to apply to the court to be able to
spy on people. And when you do so, the document
that you actually use says that the very top verified
(04:26):
and so if you can further prove that they knew
it was false or should have known that it was
false and they fraudulently go before the court and make
that representation. You know, you can't do that in this country.
And there is going to be accountability, and hopefully that
accountability starts out. That is but just one of the things.
(04:46):
But you have John Ratcliffe, who remember was on the
Intel Committee. Prior to Congress, he was a US attorney
for terrorism cases. He was the director of National Intelligence
in Trump's first administration. Now he's the director of the CIA.
He's been able to unearth documents we've never previously seen.
(05:07):
That's why I think he foreshadowed that in the next
few days we should be seeing information that has never
been seen before.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, well, based on what Tulci Gabbert is declassified, what
is your take on all of this? To me, it
is as damning as it can get. Is that they
purposefully went out there and changed senior career intelligence that
officials analysis of twenty sixteen, and they did it on purpose.
(05:36):
They did it to sabotage Trump. They did it based
on a document they knew to be phony and fraudulent,
that is the Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian
disinformation dossier. And Colly has a different issue because Comy
signed three of the four PHISA warrants, and he used
as the basis for those warrants. The bulk of information
(05:56):
was from that dirty, unverified and unverifiable and now and
totally debunked by December of twenty sixteen. Dossier is the
bulk of information. He signed two more BYZA warrants even
after he knew it was debunked.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, and that again there if this conspiracy comes together
the way John Radcliffe is foreshadowing, you know, those are
issues that can be prosecuted. I think the other thing
that was I've never heard somebody, you know, go to
the White House podium and say out loud, which was
Tulcy Gabbert talking about President Barack Obama him personally be
(06:32):
involved and this that is a stunning revelation. Now remember
during the Obama administration. Yeah, yeah, Barack Obama going around saying, oh,
I have scandal free administration. I mean everything from Fast
and Furious and the use of the IRS. But how
about all the spying on James Rosen, spying on the
Associated Press and tapping into what they're doing. So it's
(06:53):
not a real leap to think that maybe they did
go out and spy on Trump or Trump's administration. That's
an open question. I think it's an allegation, but at
this point, but that foreshadows and portends that, you know,
there's a lot more to this at that time. And
remember it's mid December twenty sixteen when Donald Trump as
(07:16):
the president elect is going to start getting the presidential briefings.
But curiously it's just the week before that. Then you
have Barack Obama evidently directing the band there, Hey, we
need to go back and change this assessment. That's where
the scramble with the senior officials are trying to cover
up their tracks because the unthinkable happened. Donald Trump actually
(07:36):
got elected, and they were afraid that eventually he would
see this. And I think that's coming to play right now.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Why do you believe or do you believe as others
that the statute of limitations are not applicable? And do
you see where cash Bettel he had announced that there's
a grand conspiracy investigation, because I would argue the weaponization
of the Department of Justice in it all from twenty
twenty to twenty twenty four was all designed even to
(08:05):
bloody up Donald Trump to the point he could not
run for a second term at that point. I do
believe that what they did by nobody had ever seen
the Hunter Biden laptop, the FBI had verified its authenticity
of March to twenty twenty. They did go out and
pre bunk it. Is that not putting cinder blocks on
the scale of an election and having deep state operatives
(08:27):
manipulate an election. Because had this come out and they
verified its authenticity. No way Joe Biden could have won
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
No, I don't. And you know, Donald Trump said in
real time some of these things that were happening, and
there were a lot of us, even in Congress, like
where is this information? How do we get it? Well,
it ends up we were asking for it, we were subpoenaing,
we were looking for it. It's just the Obama administration
and subsequently the Biden administration they were hiding it. And
so even if we issued a subpoena and asked for
(08:56):
this information, they just weren't providing it. You have question
about the Statute of Limitations. My understanding, having heard this
from Brett Tolman, a former US attorney, also from John Ratcliffe,
the starting clock on the Statute of the Limitation starts
at the very last act of the perpetuation of that conspiracy.
(09:16):
But there is testimony, multiple testimonies, that happened in Congress
after twenty twenty that you had Intel Committee, you had
other committees, you had subcommittees asking questions of these players
and these people, and is Trey Goudy and others point
out they were just flat out line to us. And
again Trey GOUDI was also on the Intel Committee. He
(09:37):
knew he was asking those questions. Brenner, he knew the
answer to those questions, and he just I mean, he
is very adamant that he just lied and lied to Congress.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So tell me what shape this takes for mean, it's
not like to me, the foundation is already there and
now we're putting on top of the foundation. We're beginning
to build out this entire case and with it now
we have smoking gun evidence. As the declassification process moves forward,
it would seem to me that somebody in a fairly
(10:10):
short order could probably put it all together. Is that
naivete of my part to think it could happen quickly?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I think it is. I think that's the reason why
John Ratcliffe went on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bardi
Romo and said as much. I mean, he made it
sound like this was day's way. Does it take a
week or two? Maybe, But a guy like that, a
real true professional, is not going to go out and
foreshadow it to that degree without something that is pending.
And while he doesn't explicitly say it, my reading of
(10:39):
the between the lines on Dan Bongino is that he
has also now seen it. And you know, you got
to give time for these prosecutors to put the whole
case stop the bottom because they're going to fight the
national media. They had to fight him every single step
of the way. But they've got to be able to
make the case clearly to the American people and show
(11:00):
how all of these elements come together. You've been covering
this for years. You know, your friend Greg Jared wrote
a book on this.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
For goodness sake, but he wrote he wrote two books
on this, Let's be Real, and they were both number
one best sellers. It's frustrating to me. There were not
many of us that were digging deep, and we were
right there. We had it. It's the only thing we
didn't have was the declassified information, which offers full, complete
vindication and validation of everything that we did. It was
(11:30):
three years of work, and Jason, you were on the
program a lot talking about it with us, as was
Trey Goudy, as was John Solomon, Greg Jarrett, Catherine Herridge
at the time, Sarah Carter at the time, and Jim
Jordan and Mark Meadows, Matt Gets. I mean, I'm just
giving the names of the people that were the most helpful.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Well, look, we were talking to whistleblowers, people who had
seen and were aware of this information. But what seems
to be new what the director of the CIA is saying,
is now there handwritten notes and other things that could
be declassified. You get be really careful because we take
in this nation very sensitive information sources and methods making
(12:11):
sure that we don't expose somebody who is in peril.
And that work sounds like it has been done over
the last six months because John Rackle has got a
running start at this having been been through that. That's
why it's coming to fruition now. That's why I think
it's on the verge of a breaking loose.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
All right, this case getting blown wide open. How far
does it go? Will people be arrested? We'll get an
answer from Jason Chafitz on the other side. Don't forget
his new book. They're coming for you. How deep state spies, NGOs,
woke corporations plan to push you out of the economy.
Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores around the country.
More with Jason than your calls eight hundred nine four
(12:53):
one Sean. If you want to be a part of
the program this Monday, Jason Chafit's his new book, By
the Way, is out there coming for you you Hannity
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I don't like over promising and under delivering, and Epstein
would be a case where I think people thought something
was going to be coming, and by the way, there
(13:15):
might be things coming. I'm still withholding judgment more than
other people are, and still confident. I have confidence in Pambondi,
Cash Bettel, Tambongino and others to get to the bottom
of this. I just wanted to play out a little
more before I make a definitive statement on it. But
that's kind of been my moo. When it's not a
lot of other people's mos, they just kind of rush
to judgment. But do you really believe we can tell
(13:38):
people with the high degree of confidence that they'll be
held accountable.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, look, I believe I've known Tulsa Gabbard for twelve years.
I've known John Ratcliffe for longer than that. These are
people that I associated with on a daily basis, and
I find them to be reasonable, not hyperbolic. I don't
think they would go before the world with cameras rolling
(14:02):
and foreshadow to degree that they did with unless they
have something real. So yeah, I mean temper expectations, I guess,
but I didn't expect them to come out with this
in such a bold statement. But they've I'm repeating what
they've said, and that gives me great hope.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
We appreciate your time as always in the great work
that you've done. I have a funny feeling we will
be talking to you a lot in the days and
weeks and probably months ahead anyway. Jason Chafitz, thank you
so much. Congratulations by the way, on your book. They're
coming for you. How deep state spies, NGOs, woke corporations
plan to push you out of the economy. Hannity dot com,
(14:42):
Amazon dot com, and bookstores around the country. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Thanks Sean.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
There is something a disturbing trend that I see out
there that needs to be addressed. I'm not sure where
can why it's why it's getting this bad, why people
are buying into this the you know, I brought this
up on Patrick but David's podcast a little bit it
(15:09):
came up, and that is there is Holocaust denialism out
there at a level. I've never seen before. Now we
know the squad. We know that anti Semitism has been
on the rise in the halls of Congress, we know
that it's been on the rise worldwide. We know that
it's been on the rise on college campuses. Now it's
(15:31):
on the rise in terms of new media and young
social media influencers. I mean, even going as far is
to blame Jewish people for Hitler targeting them in the Holocaust,
and this denialism that Winston Churchill was not one of
the greatest heroes of all time, because long before anybody
(15:56):
else saw it, he saw what Hitler was capable of.
And you know at Neville Chamberlain, Oh, he meets some
Munich with Hitler, and he comes back to Great Britain
and declares there will be peace at our time. No,
there's not. And well, but Western civilization has deteriorated. Well,
that's the responsibility of every generation thereafter, because Iss Reagan
(16:19):
admonished us all freedom is but one generation away from extinction.
And so the idea that Winston Churchill didn't rally a
world against you know, the evils of Nazism and fascism
and imperial Japan and Stalin and Russia and all these
(16:39):
different You know, if you look at the last century,
over one hundred million human souls plus were murdered in
the name of some ism. I didn't think we'd have
to go back and relitigate World War Two. My dad
fought in the Pacific for four long years. But this
is just a sampling of theanity and history revisionism that's
(17:03):
going on now.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Listen, what if the Jewish did something to the Germans
that made them at a certain way, but nobody wants
to talk about it, Like the Jews don't want to
take accountability.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, okay, that's why.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
That's why, Like that was up to something, so the
Germans wanted to take them out, like there had to
be something, Like Germans wanted to take them out.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
All of that myself, they started it. It's like it's
somebody that talking about the.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Holocaust was the only way he can take out a
huge population, like a huge amount of Jews all in
one setting. But I already know what's going on, Like
I'm not dumb, Like I know, like the Jews did something,
that's why they sent up here. They're trying to take back,
like they're trying to take back and get repercussions, especially
from America, like from Americans. So they're taking over the
(18:01):
government and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'm telling you, how do we take them down? How
do we take them down? Yeah? I mean to.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Say Hitler, he had the plan, but his plan was
just too like very like cruesome.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
To do, but saved the world. I mean, Jews.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Jews are the reason why this the healthcare system and
everything around us and the government is collapsing because they're
seeing up here stilling away from American people.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
The Jews are responsible for the healthcare system in this country.
You know, what, what did the Jews do to cause
Adolf Hitler to want to annihilate them? You know, one
of the one of the things that we do have
going back even as early as you know, the nineteen forties,
(19:00):
we do have videotape of what actually happened in these
death camps. And you're looking at men, women and children
that were slaughtered for no reason at all except for
the fact that they were Jewish, or they were gay,
or they were Catholic, and that they didn't fit into
(19:21):
this this you know, aryan mentality, this sick, twisted, disgustingly repulsive,
evil mindset of Hitler. Over six million Jews were slaughtered,
and I'm listening to this and they're justifying it is
the Holocaust was the only way that and that what
(19:46):
Hitler do and he you know, he had to do
what he had to do, and somehow rationalizing away mash
death and murder. What has happened to people that could
be that sick, ugly, evil and twisted and justify what
was the only description of this is evil and not
(20:07):
recognizing the heroism of all of those people that fought
back to defeat these forces of evil in a time,
because I don't know what the world would look like
had we lost World War Two. Pretty nauseating. Let's get
to our busy phones. Eight hundred and ninety four one,
Shawn is our number. If you want to be a
(20:28):
part of the program. Uh Ron in Oklahoma, Ron High.
How are you glad you called? What'd you think of
that tape?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah? Right, Well, you don't have to throw a rock
very far down, you know, and not hit an idiot.
I'll tell you what I was. Linda really got me
excited the other day whenever she was talking about becoming
the vice president, and I thought.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Oh Jesus, we're going back to this. We we this
has got to stop. Nobody is asking me to run
for president, and I said if I did, it would
only be if Trump, except if Trump would be my
vice president. And Linda was offended.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, I've got a better position for ag. She seems
like she has a fire in her belly, and we
need one. We've been putting up with this three or
four tiered system of justice for fifteen or twenty years now,
and people are sick of it.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
She's not a lawyer. She has a lot of master's degrees,
but one of them is not a doctorate of law.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Henry Ford was not a brilliant man, either, but he
knew how to hire people.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
It was. I didn't say she's not brilliant. I just
said she doesn't have a doctorate of law. I would
think that would be a prerequisite if you're going to
be the Attorney General of the United States.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well, apparently you're against her.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'm not against her. I said I would make her
communications director and White House Press Secretary for as long
as she could hold the job. But I fear she
might break Anthony Scaramucci's record.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah. Well, my point is, I'm like millions of other
Americans that want to see somebody go to jail, and
I don't see it happening, and I haven't seen it
happening for years and years because of buzzwords like we're
going to try to, you know, in things of this nature,
nobody tries to.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I reported all this, all of this information on the
Russia hoax, everything about Hunter Biden's laptop. I spent years
on this program, years on Hannity, no expectation at all
that I could that I could get this over the
finish line. This is the first time I have some
real hope that there might be some accountability, and so
(22:41):
I'm just I do trust this group of people a
lot more than any other group than we've ever had,
and I have more hope that we'll get there. But
I think you hear where I'm coming from.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
We don't trust them at all.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Sean so Well, I do trust me. I trust President Trump,
I trust Pam BONDI cash for Tell, Dan Bongino. I've
known all of them for decades.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I remember when Hillary was debating Trump there at one
of the primaries. She said, I can't picture in the
United States under this man's authority, and he looked at
her and said, well, for one thing, you'd be in jail.
That's been a long time ago. And everybody laughed and
thought it was funny and it boy, it was a
great comeback. But he told the truth and nothing's happening.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
What this man has been through and what we're discovering,
it was all designed to destroy him and sabotage his presidency.
It was all designed to prevent him from winning in
twenty twenty. All the lawfair was designed to bloody him
up to such a degree that he could never be
a viable candidate in twenty four. This is all stuff
that we reported, the fact that this man was able
(23:49):
to not only withstand it, but fight back against it
day in and day. Could you imagine the four years
for Donald Trump from twenty to twenty four and what
that was like. I know what it was like because
I was in touch with him regularly. And if you
think those were four good years of his life, I
can promise you they were not. And I can tell
you that it was. He was willing to put it
(24:09):
all on the line for God and country and for
the American people, and he rolled the dice. It was
he put everything on the line. It was either the
White House or was going to be the Big House.
There was no in between, and nobody will ever convince
me otherwise, which makes me like him and admire him
even more. Anyway, my friend, I appreciate it. Thank you
(24:31):
so much for being out there right quick break, right back.
We'll get to your calls. Eight hundred and nine four one,
Shawn our number this Monday, as we continue on.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
The final hour, roundup is next.
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You do not want to miss it, and stay tuned
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Speaker 1 (24:57):
All right, back to our busy phones, eight hundred and
nine four one show, And if you want to be
a part of the program, let's say hi to Brad.
He's in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Brad, how are you
glad you called?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Thank you for taking my call showing you're a great American.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What's going on? So you are a great American?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Before thank you? Before I get to my point, you
and Levin knocked it out last night.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
That was a terrific show.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You liked that. It was fun to do. I enjoyed it.
I really did. The great Ones. New book on power
is I must read for everybody. He's going to be
on the show tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, he's terrific too.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So the reason I called, as you said, I'm in Pennsylvania,
so I'm not voting in New York City, but.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
If I were, I wouldn't think about voting for this
mom Dammi guy until he stops being such a hypocrite
and practice what he preaches.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
By that I'm talking about, he wants to defund the
police and replace some of social workers. He needs to
dismantle his security detail or really same with social workers.
Wouldn't even think about voting for him until he did.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm going to tell you this guy is he's just
bad news. I mean, there's no other way to put it.
You know, there's a reason why the Democratic parties disapproval
rating now is at a thirty five year low, and
I don't see them recovering from this. By the way,
mister man of the people is Zoron Mamdani throwing a
multi million dollar wedding bash for you know, as he
(26:26):
got married against this weekend in When do you get married? Uganda?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You know, is this scene right out of the twenty
eight teen, you know, like a movie. It was just insane. Anyway,
this this weddingness. Past weekend, Socialist New York City mayoral
front runner Zoron Mamdani, you know, celebrates his recent nuptials
with a lavish three day affair at the family's richie
He secluded ugandhan compound. Im like, wow, really a man
(26:57):
of the people. But by the way, isn't that how socialism, statism,
communism really works. And that is that the I and
Mighty they live one way, and we little peons, we
live a different way. You know, a system for the
for them, and then a whole other system for us.
(27:19):
It's just like we get stuck with Obamacare and meanwhile
Congress you know, renders that they are not subject to
the same law. I mean, it's it's such hypocrisy. Man
of the people, good grief.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
It's do as I say, not as I do.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, really well said, really well, said Brad. A lot
of good things coming to Pennsylvania. You saw the President's
press conference a couple of weeks ago. I'm excited for Pennsylvania.
I'm really happy for you. I think you're going to
have real economic growth. There, huge job opportunities for the
great people in your commonwealth. And I'm really excited for you.
(27:55):
I want everybody to have a shot at the American dream.
I've had a shot at the American dream, as unpredictable
as my life has been, and I never thought I'd
be successful at anything. To be honest, I just knew
I liked radio when I got behind a radio mic.
And the idea, high paying career jobs for people that
really do make this country great. That makes me so happy.
(28:17):
For those families, nice house saved, neighborhood, good schools, You
know a car or a truck that you want, vacation,
going out to dinner on a weekend, not having to
worry about paying for it, saving for your retirement, just
the basics. Everybody should have it.
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