July 18, 2024 • 32 mins
Donald Trump Jr. joins us to discuss the convention thus far and has been very outspoken about the assassination attempt on his father, President Trump’s life, his speech last night and Kim Cheatle’s appearance at the RNC.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, we have come in to your.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Donna, lay I get to saying you a confidence.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Sound will be highland.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
And if you want a little bang yin, I come along.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Pursuing to rule forty d of the rules of the
Republican Party, I formally declare President Donald J.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Trump and JD.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Vance is the Republican nominees for President and Vice President
of the United States.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
You won't answer the question, but why did the press
talk about the all lies it tool.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
That we have. We have reported many of the issues
that now you're trying to intbate. No, you will provide
you with them.
Speaker 7 (00:40):
God love you, Okay, Team minus one hundred and nine
days until America vote.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Come in to your city.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Do I get saying you a conscious?
Speaker 8 (01:02):
From coast to coast, from border to border, from c
to Shining Sea. Sean Kennedy is on.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Thanks Scott Chawn an Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight
hundred and ninety four one.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Shawn is on number.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
If you want to be a part of the program,
we welcome back to the program. Donald Trump Junior off
what was a phenomenal speech last night introducing now the
vice presidential candidate JD.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Vance.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
But Donald, you know, I've known you for nearly thirty years.
I don't know who gave a better speech, you or
your daughter. I mean, it's a it's a pretty close
toss up for a very competitive family.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It is. In a normal instance, i'd be disavowing I
have never met her that I don't want her competing
with me. But no, it was I've had, I guess
a lot of proud moments this week. First off, the
reaction with my father over the weekend and him coming
back up strong. But no, as a father, to watch
my daughter do that, and it was interesting. You know,
(02:09):
people are like, oh, it was a good political move.
I was like, it wasn't a political move at all.
I'd never even think about putting my daughter up on
that stage for her first speech ever. She called me
Sean on Monday morning early and she's she was the
one who was with me when I found out about
my father having been shot. And she's the golfer, so
she's always with him and plays. Probably sees him more
than any of the Trumps, frankly, and she.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Goes and mother. I heard.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
She's a phenomenal golfer, a top college recruit. I had
two kids that would do one athletes. I mean, I'm
sure as a dad, there's nothing that makes you prouder.
And after last night, I guess that made you prouder, oh.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
One hundred percent. And so she calls me on the Monday,
She's like, I feel very strongly about this that I
want to speak at the RNC. I'm like, oh, well,
really like your first speech ever? Want you want to
be like a forty thousand person live audience or whatever
it is.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Well, there's only a couple of you know, tens and
tens of millions watching at home. But no big deal,
no pressure, honey, not.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Not at all. And so I called my dad and hey,
can I give her some of my time? He goes,
she's a winner, one hundred percent, she'll crush that, and
and she did. It was it was just really amazing
to see. I was just my only goal, Shan, was
to not sit there and start crying because the memes
they would make about me crying.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
But look, I know you and your dad a long time.
And when on Monday when he entered the arena here
at Milwaukee, and I saw him a little choked up,
and then they plan to you, and I've known you
a long time, and I, you know, I don't think
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i'd have any different reaction myself. I mean, you came
within a millimeter or two of losing your father, who
you love dearly. I know you love dearly, and I
know he loves you dearly. You are a very close family.
And you said, you know you happen to be fishing.
You told me the other night on TV. But it
tell us the story.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, it was strange. So the daughter that spoke last night,
she uncharacteristic for seventeen year old. You know, you get
this call once every once a year. And she was
just like, hey, give me and a couple of friends
you take ahead, no fishing on the boat. And I
was like one hundred percent, like if I get that call,
it's very rare, is what I do. It's like we're
going to just cancel everything and do. Then we go
out there and we're having a a you know, a
(04:27):
great afternoon on the water and catching fish and uh,
and I just get a call from Kimberly. It was like, Uh,
your dad's been shot. And I just said wait and
and I like that that means a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Did she not know?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Because when I first saw Don honestly, and you know,
your dad's a friend of mine, and you know that
I thought, I said to the person, I said.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They just killed him, They just killed them. Yeah, that's
what I thought.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
That was in my head when he went down, and
then when he stood up, I thought the bullet was in.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
His head, yeah, or somewhere else. So, I mean, you
can get shot in the chest and it takes a
while to bleed out.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I just didn't know, you well, I saw his face bleeding.
I thought they shot him in the head, and I
thought he was going to drop again.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes, I didn't know. You know, I saw him come
up to find and I was like, man, that's a badass.
And then but I didn't you know, this is afterwards
we got in and it took about ninety minutes so
I could even get through to any of the people
that were near him to find out if he was
actually a live or did that a long hour and
a half of unknown. So we got in, obviously, got
all my kids together, and you know, trying to explain
(05:30):
to my my other kids ten year old you know, daughter,
like your grandpa's been shot in the face. It's uh,
it was. It was rough and then you finally got
through to him, and uh, he was okay, And I
just said, man, you are the biggest bad ass I know.
I mean everyone everyone thinks they're gonna everyone. Every man
in America wants to react that way after having been shot.
(05:50):
Every man thinks they'll do that. I'd say, you know,
one in a hundred, one in a thousand, take a
bullet to the face and get back up to fiance.
It was just it was an incredible thing. I just said,
you know, it could not have been more proud. Uh,
and then you know, just do It was a very
it was a very heavy phone call. I mean, it's
all positive, but I had to break the ice a
(06:11):
little bit because it was almost getting too much. I
just said, so most importantly, how is the hair done?
Speaker 9 (06:18):
The hair is fine?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Did you really say that too? What did he say?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah? I mean I just totally inappropriate. But I was like,
you know what, I was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Like, oh, that's breaking, that's breaking the ice.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You have a little bit a lot of blood in
the hair. But other than that, hair is good.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I think, I mean we can laugh now, but I
mean it was it was it was tense. I don't
know about you, but I have anger and fury in
me at the head of the Secret Service, and I've
been hitting this hard and I'm going to get into
more details. But the idea that oh, I take full responsibility.
It was a slope roof it was. It was hardly
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a slope for roof number one.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
John, these guys and I'm a shooter, right, I had
to see the detail. I've trained with the counter sniper
guys like Buddy the Fine like they're not worried about
a four degree pitture like this is not like they
would They'd be embarrassed if, you know, if they had
to say that, oh, we were worried. It's an ocera requirement,
like these guys are, you know, it's it's nonsense. And
it was even worse yesterday before I did my Trigger
(07:16):
podcast on Rubble Marshall Blackburn was walking by and she's
a good friend and she goes, don I gotta tell you,
I just got off the phone call with the Secret
Service or the head of the Secret Service, and she goes,
you know, at five fifty one or at five o'clock,
they knew there was a suspicious guy. At five fifty
one they saw him with a rangefinder and this is
what seemed like a rifle. At five fifty three, they
saw him on a roof set up. My father got
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on the stage at six pm, like ten minutes later.
They knew, and they still let him get on the stage.
The first shots then went off at you at six eleven.
So for twenty minutes they knew and nothing, nothing happened,
And then.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
They lost They knew he had the rangefinder, then they
lost track of him. And then the slopes. But the
let's say, you're gonna buy the slope roof nonsense. Okay,
let's let's just give them that for a second. Then
why didn't she said, And then we decided to put
them inside the building? Well, why didn't you put them
on the perimeter outside the building? Why didn't you have
(08:15):
sniper eyes on the roof of that building?
Speaker 9 (08:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Why didn't you have a drone flying above that building?
This is basic one on one don Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I mean again, I don't want to be the guy
to get conspiratorial, but you almost it's sort of like
Wuhan lab league theory, Like of course, it's like there's
no other there's no other plausible of course, there's something.
And you know again that doesn't take away from some
of the guys that are greaty. I probably know you
know Sean Curran, who is the head of my dad's detail.
That guy's a great guy of patriot.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
The guys that jumped on your dad for crying out loud,
how great were they?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
There areas uh, you pick up teams from other areas
that they do different stuff. So I mean, whatever happened, man, Like,
I am a very very pissed off son, and I
know these guys because I've had a detail. I've been
around my father's detail for eight years, like, and that
doesn't happen. It doesn't happen, and it certainly doesn't happen
to a presumptive nominee where they step up the footprint.
(09:06):
Even more so, so something something you know, dastardly had
to be going on, because there's there's almost no other
explanation for that kind of lapse, that kind of breach. Again,
I thought, perhaps, you know, hey, this happened in the
middle of his speech and he's been talking for an hour,
and so you know, maybe, Yeah, a lot of the
almost all cops are super maga. I mean, the amount
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of selfies I've taken here in Milwaukee with the cops,
you know, walking by every time. It's it's incredible. But
you know, maybe hey, if he's speaking, maybe they got
into it, maybe they're watching the speech, maybe they're not
paying as much attention for some reason. You know. No, no, no,
they knew before he ever got on the stage, and
so it wasn't like their attention was withdrawn during that.
That's insane, it's just not acceptable.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Well, I'm also told from pretty good sources that in
the days and weeks ahead, we're gonna learn that they
have been multiple requests by your father and his team
for extra secure and each request had been denied.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We'll find out more about that.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Let me just let me transition for just for a second,
because I know you don't have a lot of time.
All we keep reading today is that it looks like
the Democratic elite establishment, you know, the Washington establishment, the
Hollywood establishment, the money people within the Democratic ranks, you know,
don't really seem to care if they disenfranchise all of
(10:26):
the Democratic primary voters, and they're doing everything and anything
they possibly can do to push Joe out. That likelihood
seems greater today. So that means, you know, we are
just a mere what sixty days until early voting begins
in Pennsylvania and one hundred and nine days until election day,
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and you're telling me that we don't know who your
father's running against.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
If you've watched the Democrats over the last few years
shown you should realize that they don't care about democracy.
It's all sound bites for them, right they say these things.
You know, the same people they call off fascists are
the ones trying to lock up and jail their political opponents.
They're trying to bankrupt my father, they're trying to use lawfare.
They're the ones that are acting like actual fascists. So
you know, them doing anything possible to win, even if
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it breaks all the norms and rules, and to you
it doesn't matter. They'll do all of that. They're not
just gonna concede this thing. But you know, I do
think they'd have to go to a Kamala Harris. I
don't think they can bypass, you know, sort of their
checkbox candidate, given given how much emphasis they've put on
those things over the last few years. So I don't
know that I feel any I don't feel worse running
(11:36):
against Kamala Harris. I think that's probably, you know, still
a pretty good good thing for us.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
They have harassed you, They've harassed your brother, they have
harassed your family, they have harassed your father. I've never
been this worried about our country or the state of
the world.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
To be honest, I'm not Sean.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, obviously, it's not like they can just change
every policy that they've ever had for the last few
years by switching in are candidate. The reality is that
these are Democrat Party policies. They've they've given us open borders,
They've brought on the fanal crisis, They've destroyed our economy.
They keep doing it. It doesn't matter if they plug in
another candidate that's is simply going to do the same
garbage that they've been doing. It's all it's all the same.
(12:16):
This is all Democrat Party policy. So I don't care
if it's good about it. I don't care if it's
Kamalin Harris, I don't care if it's again Vin Newsome.
It's all the same. These policies have sailed America over
and over again.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I agree, and I keep making the same point. All right,
quick break bore with Donald Trump Junior on the other side,
of eight hundred and nine to four. One Shawn is
a number. As we continue where in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Day four,
Donald Trump speaks tonight nine Eastern Hannity on Fox. As
we continue from Milwaukee, right, we continue now with Donald
Trump Junior. He introduced JD Vans last night. His daughter
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also spoke at the R and C convention. It's day four.
His father will speak tonight. Let me let me ask
you one question. Last night was a pretty special night.
I don't I've been to a lot of conventions, and
I think this is probably the smoothest one I've been to.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And you know, I.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Keep reading and that you had known and been friends
with JD for a long time when I interviewed him.
I'd interviewed him before, and I supported him in his candidacy,
but I didn't really get to know him that well.
And you know, I read a book basically every day,
just preparing for this radio program and the TV show,
So I'm busy every day, and I'd never had time
(13:25):
to read He'llbilly Elogy. And then when his name surfaced
repeatedly as a potential VP candidate, I decided to watch
the movie because that's all I really had time for
and I was blown away, and I called you and
I wanted to have a conversation with you about it
because you are that close to him and maybe played
an influential role.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I mean, I don't know what happened behind the scenes,
to be very honest, but I keep reading that you did.
But you saw something in him that I really didn't
know or see because I didn't know him as well
as you. But when I did an interview with him
on Monday night when he was picked, he just blew
me away. Beyond impressive. He starts in Appalachia, ends up.
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You know, a marine, goes and fights for our country,
comes back, goes to Ohio State, top of his class
at Yale, very successful businessman, Ohio senator, and now vice
presidential candidate for your father. I mean, what a life story.
Most people don't survive growing up that way with a
drug addict mother and alcoholic mother.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, And I mean it's such a pervasive thing in
our country right now that that happens. So, you know,
I think he's a great guy for that. He understands
those forgotten men and women that we were talking about.
I mean, he came from that he's living the quintessential
American dream story, but he still remembers that. So, yeah,
I've gotten to know him a lot over the last
few years. When he was running for senate, we'd already
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known each other pretty well by then, and you know,
I sort of went all in with my father, sort
of cashing in whatever political chips I may have with
him and to be like, trust me, this guy's going
to be a rock star and state senate. He's going
to fight for us. And you know, it started off differently.
Even even JD sort of admits he's like, hey, I
bought it into the narrative about Trump back back in sixteen,
and I'd read Hill Billy LG back then, and I
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was like, this guy'd be a great, you know politician.
One day he against it. And when he was sort
of against Trump and initially or sort of just buying
into those sound boys, I was like, oh, that sucks.
This guy seems like the perfect guy. We got to
know each other and he was the first to admit
he's like, hey, man, I was wrong about these things.
As Trump started pushing these qualities like he's getting it done,
and so it wasn't one of these Republicans that was
(15:31):
against Trump, which was all of them, frankly right initially
he was. He was the first guy to be like,
I was wrong, Trump is right. I'm fighting for these
same things. We're going to do it. I mean, I
think it was a big part of why he then
chose to get the political arena myself. So I pushed
very hard for that. I think he articulates so much
of our message so well, he goes into CNN and
hostile media territory and he does a better job explaining
(15:55):
America first, explaining trump Ism there then most of our
guys one, you know, let's call it more more friendly media.
So he's an amazing guy. I think he's gonna be
an incredible candidate, he's gonna be an incredible vice president.
And he's also young enough to carry sort of that
America First mantle, you know further, you know, down the road,
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and that's such a that's such a critical thing. But
of you, I don't want to go back to the
old ways of the Republican Party, never ending wars, never
ending debt, all of its nonsense. We got to keep
the America First movement going forward.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Well said Don Junior. I'm glad your dad's okay. I
hope we get to the bottom of this. And election
day is a mere one hundred and nine days away,
sixty days to literally voting. I urge people, this is
an inflection point for our country. Appreciate it. Don thank you,
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Great to be with you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
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All right, Dave four, it is the night that Donald
Trump takes to the stage in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, or as
Linda says, Milwaukee and anyway, it's going to be a
pretty interesting night. You know, we just talked to Don
Junior about a lot of issues, but I can tell
you one issue that is in the forefront of my
(18:28):
mind is what has happened with this case? And how
is it possible in this day and age for an
assassin to get one hundred and thirty feet away from
the leading presidential candidate and former president. There is no
excuse at all for this, and I don't believe the
government is going to be capable of fairly investigating itself.
(18:51):
We need outside investigators. Let me play you Congressman Corey
Mills's comments on this issue.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
My point is that this was it's too easy of
a solution, and when I think about one hundred.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And SEUs so uncomfortable with even having I've.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Uncomfortable with having to say it.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Trust me.
Speaker 10 (19:06):
My whole point is is that I would like to
look at this and say, where's the mistake made, how
can we correct it in the future.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Why was this actually done?
Speaker 10 (19:12):
But I think that this does warrant a J thirteen
type commission where we can actually look at it and say,
let's investigate and find out why this happens so it
doesn't happen to anyone. This is not about a political thing.
This is about we had an attempt to assassinate a president.
We really need to understand what a serious matter this is.
And this was a milliseconds or millimeter difference between this
being an attempt and this being an assassination.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Do you believe in divine intervention?
Speaker 9 (19:35):
So I am a.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
Person of faith, I can't explain one I hope that
it was a corrugated roof and maybe he slipped off
on one of the edges of the corrugated roof, for
he was rushed. But this the whole thing, I think,
just needs to have a better explanation to the American
people and everyone can feel comfortable.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
I agree completely. There is no excuse. Now it gets
even worse in my mind. The head of the Secret Service,
Kim Cheadle, should be fired, should have been and fired immediately.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Joe did say that he did meet with him.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
The only problem is him as a her and he
didn't apparently remember that. But he hasn't had a cabinet
meeting in eleven ten eleven months anyway, And here is
the head of the Secret Service, Kim cheat Ole, explaining, oh, yeah,
the buck stops with me, but I'm not. I'm going
to stay on as director. And we didn't put people
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on the roof because it was a slope roof.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Should that roof have been secure? Period?
Speaker 11 (20:31):
That building in particular has a sloped roof at its
highest point, and so you know there's a safety factor
that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to
put somebody up on a slope roof, and so you
know the decision was made to secure the building from inside.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Who is most responsible for this happening?
Speaker 11 (20:48):
What I would say is that the Secret Service is
responsible for the protection of the former president.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
So the buck stops with you, the buck stops with me.
Speaker 11 (20:55):
I am the director of the Secret Service.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
You plan to stay on absolutely? I do plan to stay.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
And what about the fact that she says the slow proof.
Really that is an insane argument anyway. Joining us now
to discuss this is Congressman Corey Mills of Florida, decorated
Army combat veteran who serves on the House Armed Services
and Foreign Affairs Committee, and also Sean Parnell, retired Army
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Infantry captain. He served in Afghanistan and was in the
front row of Butler PA when this was all unfolding
before his very eyes. I'm sure the shock and horror
of all of it will remain with him for the
rest of his life. And he was a former US
Army airborne ranger who served in the legendary tenth Mountain
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Division for six years. Retired as a captain, had two
Bronze Stars, one for valor and a purple Heart. Gentlemen,
welcome both of you to the program. Sean, I'll start
with you. You were there, you were in the front row.
I can only imagine, you know, from my understanding, and
maybe you can give us your perspective on this is
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multiple shots were targeting, you know, the area where.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Donald Trump was. It wasn't just the one shot that
hit him.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, that's right, Sean, and thank you for having me.
There were six shots, I think, right off the bat
and I was I could hear the rounds crack right
over my head, so they were super sonic. I could
tell that they were that the sniper was likely not
far away. I knew it was sniper fire instantly. But
the succession was here the shots. I see President Trump
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grab his ear and go down instantly. Secret Service was
on him a second later, and then I just started.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
And by the way, those guys were amazing. They did
their job. You know, they were willing to take a
bullet for other president. The shooting was continuing while they
did that. Uh, and that's when the one gentleman got killed.
Two others were injured.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, and like, so what happened? People who got hit
leave behind me? And you know, so when seconds having
been in many of these situations before. In Afghanistan, I'm
trying to ascertain the position of the shooter and Sean
within seconds it was building or water power those And
I'm telling you this, if I knew that in the moment,
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if I knew that, in the chaos of the moment,
surrounded by thirty thousand people who didn't know what was
going on, we had casualties right behind us there, it
is simply incomprehensible to me that the United States Secret
Service did not know that in some sort of advanced prep.
It's it's just absolutely inconceivable.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The question that was put towards Kim Cheatle.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
And again I will remind Joey that Kim Cheadle happens
to be a woman, and he said I spoke to him.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
No, it's not a hymn.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
So I'm doubtful that conversation even took place, or if
he even remembers it. But the idea that they're making
excuses for this, the perimeter has to be defined as
any area that can be a threat towards a prime mary,
as you call it, that you're trying to protect, the
primary in this case being Donald Trump. That's the perimeter well,
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this was outside the perimeter. One hundred and thirty yards
is like a two foot putt, if you want to
use a golf analogy, or the equivalent of a layup
in basketball. You don't miss a layup in basketball, although
I occasionally missed one when I played varsity ball, depending
on you know, how focused I wasn't any given day.
But in all reality this, you know, the guy went
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to the range we now know earlier in the day
bought the rounds that day. They knew that this guy
apparently had a range finder with him, and they did.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
They let him go.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
They identified him as a suspicious individual, then lost sight
of him, and rather than wait to secure him, they
let the president go out there.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And he was a sitting duck. It's a miracle that
this guy's alive today, it is.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It is a miracle, Sean. I mean, I'm telling you, So,
the President is up there on the stage. I was
with him thirty minutes prior, and he's up there on
the stage.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
He's doing his thing.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He's like, you know, I hate these teleprompters. I'm gonna
go off script. I tell my people, these teleprompters are boring.
He cranes his head once to look at the screens.
Got these big screens on his left and on his right.
He looks to his right points he's like, ah, you
see them immigration graphic. That's my favorite graphic. And he
turns around. He says, you see that favorite You see
that arrow, that's my favorite arrow. That's the lowest point
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of immigration in this country. And then he turns back
to the screen, Sean, And in that second, that's when
that's when the rounds are fired. That's when he grabs
his ear, and that's when he goes down Secret Services.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
So that means between the time that the shot was
about to be taken and then taken, that's the exact
second is to his head turned, which probably threw off
the shot because it's kind of hard to miss from
one hundred and thirty yards with it, with any rifle
of that caliber exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
And Sewn, I'm telling you, and I've been thinking about
this since the rally happened, trying to unpack how something
like this could possibly happen. But it was the president's
tendency to go off script that ultimately saved his life.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
And we talk about this all the time, because you know,
I'd leave six or seven minutes every night of my
monologue to go off script. I don't. I don't stick
to a script. I write out a monologue, but then
I and it becomes extemporaneous. My whole radio shows extemporaneous.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
And and that's in that moment that saved President Trump's life,
and then it just amazing. And then it just became
about from there, you know, because the Secret Service had
their mission and that they shunting President Trump often protecting him.
Local police were treating casualties, and so it was we
had thirty thousand people in that rally who had just
trying to wrap their head around the fact that they'd
been shot at for the first time. And when you
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do that, like everybody kind of has this realization and
it's like this, holy cow, somebody just tried to kill me.
Tried to wipe out everything that I want, everything that
I am, everything that I ever will be. And as
you grapple with the realities of that, it can be
kind of shocking. And people forget Sean. There was ninety
five degrees out, I mean, it was oppressively hot. So
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in the panic of the moment, we had ellery folks
that were passing out. We of course had the casualties
that were shot that we were trying to triage. We
had to evacuate people that were heat casualties, to carry people,
and it was overwhelming, and then we had to lead
the evacuation. Me and a couple other combat bets that
were there lead the evacuation of the people out to
get people up safely. And then there were wheelchairs on
the ground, people who were not They weren't like no
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Man John, they weren't left behind, but they were elderly
folks and wheelchairs being pushed by elderly people.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
I mean, it was just I was surprised to let
anybody out without checking everybody's phone. I really was. I
thought that was something that should have happened right quick.
Pery will come right back. We'll continue more with Congressman
Corey Mills, more with Sean Parnell on the other side.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I would continue now.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
With Congressman Corey Mills with Florida and on Parnell is
with US retired Army Infantry captain who was part of
the legendary tenth Mountain Division for six years. Let me
bring in Congressman Corey Mills of Florida Congressman. You see
what the Secret Service leadership, not rank and file, and
there's a difference. What they're trying to do is say, well, no,
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we handed that off to local law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Excuse me.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
That's not their job. This is the job of the
United States Secret Service. Now we're learning that there have
been multiple requests by the Trump team for more reinforcements
for these rallies. And there's going to be a paper
trail I am told for my sources that comes out
in the days and weeks ahead that's going to approve
all of this.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And there's got to be accountability here.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I mean, they came within a millimeter of assassinating the
number one candidate for president and a former president, and
it is the biggest security failure I can think of
in our lifetime.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Exactly right, Sean. And you know, look, I conducted thousands
of advances and counter sniper I ran a counter sniper
team for the State Department for a while after I'd
left the military. I had served in the eighty secondary
one Division. I had served with attachments of Joints Special
Operations Command with Iraq. And you know, when you look
at this one, the thing that I'm calling for with
the J thirteen Commission is to essentially go forward and
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launch an investigation because I do not trust the FBI
to do this investigation. I do not trust the Secret Service,
and I don't think that we'll ever get the transparency.
They're trying to overclassify things, so it's not transparent to
the American people. This needs to be in its entirety
transparent to the American people so we can have confidence
that this was not anything which was ill intended or nefarious,
and that it was the gross negligence that was going on.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Where that can be corrected.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
I think that we can't take anything off the table
at the moment. And I'll tell you Joe Biden couldn't
tell the difference between cheetah and cheetohs.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
This individual is so lost.
Speaker 9 (29:54):
And the fact that she isn't taking you know, responsibility
and accountability are two very different things. We're not looking
for a mea culpa. Heret had the foreign president assassinated,
and it was by the fine intervention that that millisecond
or millimeter didn't cost him his life at one hundred
and sixty yards. I can tell you right now, as
someone who's run counter sniper operations. I can take your
standard off the shelf rifle that has a TWOA, a
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three MOA and at one point six inch grouping is
a MOA at one one hundred and sixty yards. That's
essentially one hundred yards for every inch grouping at threema,
I'm still only looking at four or five inches. In
my grouping capabilities. The average head is six x eight,
the average shoulder is twenty inches across. The average head
to waist is forty inches.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Detwe I know marksmen from that distance.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I can literally, you know, shoot at a shoot a
bullet through a wedding ring perfectly, or actually.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Picked up a rifle.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
I can take something out of Walmart, hand it to
you that's a five, five, six, two twenty three or
a three oh eight or thirty twel and I can
tell you right now, within ten minutes of you picking
up that rifle, I can get you to hit a
pie plate at one hundred and sixty to two hundred
yards without even all basic compmanship. So the fact is
is that I want to request the subpoena, the actual
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advanced plan. I want to see exactly what their green
yellow route was. I want to see exactly what the
counter sniper's data log books shows with regards to its
range fan and its range sketches. When you get up
on a counter sniper team, the first thing you do
when you hit the ground is you start doing a
counter sniper or a sniper data book log where we
actually go ahead and do arrange. Stan say, here's the
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things that one hundreds, here's the thing two, here's the
things that three that we perceive as an unmitigated threat
this building, Sean, is perfectly adjacent with a direct, unobstructed
line of sight to the stage that is beyond negligence.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
This is why.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
And I'm not trying to be the ten foil hat conspiracist,
but I'll tell you the difference between a conspiracy and
the fact of about six weeks in this day and age.
But the reality is is that there is no plausible
reason that you would leave this roof without someone either
on the roof or at a minimum of resources.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Of the business issue. You put a patrol.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
Car that's locked in the parking lot with the lights
on as a deterrent, as Sean can tell.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
You, how about you just surround the damn perimeter and
stop blaming local police that were. You know, pretty much
the duty for the day was traffic control. I mean,
it's ridiculous. It's their job. It's not the job of
local law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I just have to run.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
But listen, guys, please congressmen, don't give up on this investigation.
It's only begun. We've got to hold these people accountable.
End of sentence.
Well, we have come in to your.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Donna, lay I get to saying you a confidence.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Sound will be highland.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
And if you want a little bang yin, I come along.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Pursuing to rule forty d of the rules of the
Republican Party, I formally declare President Donald J.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Trump and JD.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Vance is the Republican nominees for President and Vice President
of the United States.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
You won't answer the question, but why did the press
talk about the all lies it tool.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
That we have. We have reported many of the issues
that now you're trying to intbate. No, you will provide
you with them.
Speaker 7 (00:40):
God love you, Okay, Team minus one hundred and nine
days until America vote.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Come in to your city.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Do I get saying you a conscious?
Speaker 8 (01:02):
From coast to coast, from border to border, from c
to Shining Sea. Sean Kennedy is on.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Thanks Scott Chawn an Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight
hundred and ninety four one.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Shawn is on number.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
If you want to be a part of the program,
we welcome back to the program. Donald Trump Junior off
what was a phenomenal speech last night introducing now the
vice presidential candidate JD.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Vance.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
But Donald, you know, I've known you for nearly thirty years.
I don't know who gave a better speech, you or
your daughter. I mean, it's a it's a pretty close
toss up for a very competitive family.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It is. In a normal instance, i'd be disavowing I
have never met her that I don't want her competing
with me. But no, it was I've had, I guess
a lot of proud moments this week. First off, the
reaction with my father over the weekend and him coming
back up strong. But no, as a father, to watch
my daughter do that, and it was interesting. You know,
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people are like, oh, it was a good political move.
I was like, it wasn't a political move at all.
I'd never even think about putting my daughter up on
that stage for her first speech ever. She called me
Sean on Monday morning early and she's she was the
one who was with me when I found out about
my father having been shot. And she's the golfer, so
she's always with him and plays. Probably sees him more
than any of the Trumps, frankly, and she.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Goes and mother. I heard.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
She's a phenomenal golfer, a top college recruit. I had
two kids that would do one athletes. I mean, I'm
sure as a dad, there's nothing that makes you prouder.
And after last night, I guess that made you prouder, oh.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
One hundred percent. And so she calls me on the Monday,
She's like, I feel very strongly about this that I
want to speak at the RNC. I'm like, oh, well,
really like your first speech ever? Want you want to
be like a forty thousand person live audience or whatever
it is.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Well, there's only a couple of you know, tens and
tens of millions watching at home. But no big deal,
no pressure, honey, not.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Not at all. And so I called my dad and hey,
can I give her some of my time? He goes,
she's a winner, one hundred percent, she'll crush that, and
and she did. It was it was just really amazing
to see. I was just my only goal, Shan, was
to not sit there and start crying because the memes
they would make about me crying.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
But look, I know you and your dad a long time.
And when on Monday when he entered the arena here
at Milwaukee, and I saw him a little choked up,
and then they plan to you, and I've known you
a long time, and I, you know, I don't think
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i'd have any different reaction myself. I mean, you came
within a millimeter or two of losing your father, who
you love dearly. I know you love dearly, and I
know he loves you dearly. You are a very close family.
And you said, you know you happen to be fishing.
You told me the other night on TV. But it
tell us the story.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, it was strange. So the daughter that spoke last night,
she uncharacteristic for seventeen year old. You know, you get
this call once every once a year. And she was
just like, hey, give me and a couple of friends
you take ahead, no fishing on the boat. And I
was like one hundred percent, like if I get that call,
it's very rare, is what I do. It's like we're
going to just cancel everything and do. Then we go
out there and we're having a a you know, a
(04:27):
great afternoon on the water and catching fish and uh,
and I just get a call from Kimberly. It was like, Uh,
your dad's been shot. And I just said wait and
and I like that that means a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Did she not know?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Because when I first saw Don honestly, and you know,
your dad's a friend of mine, and you know that
I thought, I said to the person, I said.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They just killed him, They just killed them. Yeah, that's
what I thought.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
That was in my head when he went down, and
then when he stood up, I thought the bullet was in.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
His head, yeah, or somewhere else. So, I mean, you
can get shot in the chest and it takes a
while to bleed out.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I just didn't know, you well, I saw his face bleeding.
I thought they shot him in the head, and I
thought he was going to drop again.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes, I didn't know. You know, I saw him come
up to find and I was like, man, that's a badass.
And then but I didn't you know, this is afterwards
we got in and it took about ninety minutes so
I could even get through to any of the people
that were near him to find out if he was
actually a live or did that a long hour and
a half of unknown. So we got in, obviously, got
all my kids together, and you know, trying to explain
(05:30):
to my my other kids ten year old you know, daughter,
like your grandpa's been shot in the face. It's uh,
it was. It was rough and then you finally got
through to him, and uh, he was okay, And I
just said, man, you are the biggest bad ass I know.
I mean everyone everyone thinks they're gonna everyone. Every man
in America wants to react that way after having been shot.
(05:50):
Every man thinks they'll do that. I'd say, you know,
one in a hundred, one in a thousand, take a
bullet to the face and get back up to fiance.
It was just it was an incredible thing. I just said,
you know, it could not have been more proud. Uh,
and then you know, just do It was a very
it was a very heavy phone call. I mean, it's
all positive, but I had to break the ice a
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little bit because it was almost getting too much. I
just said, so most importantly, how is the hair done?
Speaker 9 (06:18):
The hair is fine?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Did you really say that too? What did he say?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah? I mean I just totally inappropriate. But I was like,
you know what, I was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Like, oh, that's breaking, that's breaking the ice.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You have a little bit a lot of blood in
the hair. But other than that, hair is good.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I think, I mean we can laugh now, but I
mean it was it was it was tense. I don't
know about you, but I have anger and fury in
me at the head of the Secret Service, and I've
been hitting this hard and I'm going to get into
more details. But the idea that oh, I take full responsibility.
It was a slope roof it was. It was hardly
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a slope for roof number one.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
John, these guys and I'm a shooter, right, I had
to see the detail. I've trained with the counter sniper
guys like Buddy the Fine like they're not worried about
a four degree pitture like this is not like they
would They'd be embarrassed if, you know, if they had
to say that, oh, we were worried. It's an ocera requirement,
like these guys are, you know, it's it's nonsense. And
it was even worse yesterday before I did my Trigger
(07:16):
podcast on Rubble Marshall Blackburn was walking by and she's
a good friend and she goes, don I gotta tell you,
I just got off the phone call with the Secret
Service or the head of the Secret Service, and she goes,
you know, at five fifty one or at five o'clock,
they knew there was a suspicious guy. At five fifty
one they saw him with a rangefinder and this is
what seemed like a rifle. At five fifty three, they
saw him on a roof set up. My father got
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on the stage at six pm, like ten minutes later.
They knew, and they still let him get on the stage.
The first shots then went off at you at six eleven.
So for twenty minutes they knew and nothing, nothing happened,
And then.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
They lost They knew he had the rangefinder, then they
lost track of him. And then the slopes. But the
let's say, you're gonna buy the slope roof nonsense. Okay,
let's let's just give them that for a second. Then
why didn't she said, And then we decided to put
them inside the building? Well, why didn't you put them
on the perimeter outside the building? Why didn't you have
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sniper eyes on the roof of that building?
Speaker 9 (08:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Why didn't you have a drone flying above that building?
This is basic one on one don Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I mean again, I don't want to be the guy
to get conspiratorial, but you almost it's sort of like
Wuhan lab league theory, Like of course, it's like there's
no other there's no other plausible of course, there's something.
And you know again that doesn't take away from some
of the guys that are greaty. I probably know you
know Sean Curran, who is the head of my dad's detail.
That guy's a great guy of patriot.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
The guys that jumped on your dad for crying out loud,
how great were they?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
There areas uh, you pick up teams from other areas
that they do different stuff. So I mean, whatever happened, man, Like,
I am a very very pissed off son, and I
know these guys because I've had a detail. I've been
around my father's detail for eight years, like, and that
doesn't happen. It doesn't happen, and it certainly doesn't happen
to a presumptive nominee where they step up the footprint.
(09:06):
Even more so, so something something you know, dastardly had
to be going on, because there's there's almost no other
explanation for that kind of lapse, that kind of breach. Again,
I thought, perhaps, you know, hey, this happened in the
middle of his speech and he's been talking for an hour,
and so you know, maybe, Yeah, a lot of the
almost all cops are super maga. I mean, the amount
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of selfies I've taken here in Milwaukee with the cops,
you know, walking by every time. It's it's incredible. But
you know, maybe hey, if he's speaking, maybe they got
into it, maybe they're watching the speech, maybe they're not
paying as much attention for some reason. You know. No, no, no,
they knew before he ever got on the stage, and
so it wasn't like their attention was withdrawn during that.
That's insane, it's just not acceptable.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Well, I'm also told from pretty good sources that in
the days and weeks ahead, we're gonna learn that they
have been multiple requests by your father and his team
for extra secure and each request had been denied.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We'll find out more about that.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Let me just let me transition for just for a second,
because I know you don't have a lot of time.
All we keep reading today is that it looks like
the Democratic elite establishment, you know, the Washington establishment, the
Hollywood establishment, the money people within the Democratic ranks, you know,
don't really seem to care if they disenfranchise all of
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the Democratic primary voters, and they're doing everything and anything
they possibly can do to push Joe out. That likelihood
seems greater today. So that means, you know, we are
just a mere what sixty days until early voting begins
in Pennsylvania and one hundred and nine days until election day,
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and you're telling me that we don't know who your
father's running against.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
If you've watched the Democrats over the last few years
shown you should realize that they don't care about democracy.
It's all sound bites for them, right they say these things.
You know, the same people they call off fascists are
the ones trying to lock up and jail their political opponents.
They're trying to bankrupt my father, they're trying to use lawfare.
They're the ones that are acting like actual fascists. So
you know, them doing anything possible to win, even if
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it breaks all the norms and rules, and to you
it doesn't matter. They'll do all of that. They're not
just gonna concede this thing. But you know, I do
think they'd have to go to a Kamala Harris. I
don't think they can bypass, you know, sort of their
checkbox candidate, given given how much emphasis they've put on
those things over the last few years. So I don't
know that I feel any I don't feel worse running
(11:36):
against Kamala Harris. I think that's probably, you know, still
a pretty good good thing for us.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
They have harassed you, They've harassed your brother, they have
harassed your family, they have harassed your father. I've never
been this worried about our country or the state of
the world.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
To be honest, I'm not Sean.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, obviously, it's not like they can just change
every policy that they've ever had for the last few
years by switching in are candidate. The reality is that
these are Democrat Party policies. They've they've given us open borders,
They've brought on the fanal crisis, They've destroyed our economy.
They keep doing it. It doesn't matter if they plug in
another candidate that's is simply going to do the same
garbage that they've been doing. It's all it's all the same.
(12:16):
This is all Democrat Party policy. So I don't care
if it's good about it. I don't care if it's
Kamalin Harris, I don't care if it's again Vin Newsome.
It's all the same. These policies have sailed America over
and over again.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I agree, and I keep making the same point. All right,
quick break bore with Donald Trump Junior on the other side,
of eight hundred and nine to four. One Shawn is
a number. As we continue where in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Day four,
Donald Trump speaks tonight nine Eastern Hannity on Fox. As
we continue from Milwaukee, right, we continue now with Donald
Trump Junior. He introduced JD Vans last night. His daughter
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also spoke at the R and C convention. It's day four.
His father will speak tonight. Let me let me ask
you one question. Last night was a pretty special night.
I don't I've been to a lot of conventions, and
I think this is probably the smoothest one I've been to.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And you know, I.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Keep reading and that you had known and been friends
with JD for a long time when I interviewed him.
I'd interviewed him before, and I supported him in his candidacy,
but I didn't really get to know him that well.
And you know, I read a book basically every day,
just preparing for this radio program and the TV show,
So I'm busy every day, and I'd never had time
(13:25):
to read He'llbilly Elogy. And then when his name surfaced
repeatedly as a potential VP candidate, I decided to watch
the movie because that's all I really had time for
and I was blown away, and I called you and
I wanted to have a conversation with you about it
because you are that close to him and maybe played
an influential role.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I mean, I don't know what happened behind the scenes,
to be very honest, but I keep reading that you did.
But you saw something in him that I really didn't
know or see because I didn't know him as well
as you. But when I did an interview with him
on Monday night when he was picked, he just blew
me away. Beyond impressive. He starts in Appalachia, ends up.
(14:07):
You know, a marine, goes and fights for our country,
comes back, goes to Ohio State, top of his class
at Yale, very successful businessman, Ohio senator, and now vice
presidential candidate for your father. I mean, what a life story.
Most people don't survive growing up that way with a
drug addict mother and alcoholic mother.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, And I mean it's such a pervasive thing in
our country right now that that happens. So, you know,
I think he's a great guy for that. He understands
those forgotten men and women that we were talking about.
I mean, he came from that he's living the quintessential
American dream story, but he still remembers that. So, yeah,
I've gotten to know him a lot over the last
few years. When he was running for senate, we'd already
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known each other pretty well by then, and you know,
I sort of went all in with my father, sort
of cashing in whatever political chips I may have with
him and to be like, trust me, this guy's going
to be a rock star and state senate. He's going
to fight for us. And you know, it started off differently.
Even even JD sort of admits he's like, hey, I
bought it into the narrative about Trump back back in sixteen,
and I'd read Hill Billy LG back then, and I
(15:09):
was like, this guy'd be a great, you know politician.
One day he against it. And when he was sort
of against Trump and initially or sort of just buying
into those sound boys, I was like, oh, that sucks.
This guy seems like the perfect guy. We got to
know each other and he was the first to admit
he's like, hey, man, I was wrong about these things.
As Trump started pushing these qualities like he's getting it done,
and so it wasn't one of these Republicans that was
(15:31):
against Trump, which was all of them, frankly right initially
he was. He was the first guy to be like,
I was wrong, Trump is right. I'm fighting for these
same things. We're going to do it. I mean, I
think it was a big part of why he then
chose to get the political arena myself. So I pushed
very hard for that. I think he articulates so much
of our message so well, he goes into CNN and
hostile media territory and he does a better job explaining
(15:55):
America first, explaining trump Ism there then most of our
guys one, you know, let's call it more more friendly media.
So he's an amazing guy. I think he's gonna be
an incredible candidate, he's gonna be an incredible vice president.
And he's also young enough to carry sort of that
America First mantle, you know further, you know, down the road,
(16:15):
and that's such a that's such a critical thing. But
of you, I don't want to go back to the
old ways of the Republican Party, never ending wars, never
ending debt, all of its nonsense. We got to keep
the America First movement going forward.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Well said Don Junior. I'm glad your dad's okay. I
hope we get to the bottom of this. And election
day is a mere one hundred and nine days away,
sixty days to literally voting. I urge people, this is
an inflection point for our country. Appreciate it. Don thank you,
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Great to be with you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
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All right, Dave four, it is the night that Donald
Trump takes to the stage in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, or as
Linda says, Milwaukee and anyway, it's going to be a
pretty interesting night. You know, we just talked to Don
Junior about a lot of issues, but I can tell
you one issue that is in the forefront of my
(18:28):
mind is what has happened with this case? And how
is it possible in this day and age for an
assassin to get one hundred and thirty feet away from
the leading presidential candidate and former president. There is no
excuse at all for this, and I don't believe the
government is going to be capable of fairly investigating itself.
(18:51):
We need outside investigators. Let me play you Congressman Corey
Mills's comments on this issue.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
My point is that this was it's too easy of
a solution, and when I think about one hundred.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And SEUs so uncomfortable with even having I've.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Uncomfortable with having to say it.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Trust me.
Speaker 10 (19:06):
My whole point is is that I would like to
look at this and say, where's the mistake made, how
can we correct it in the future.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Why was this actually done?
Speaker 10 (19:12):
But I think that this does warrant a J thirteen
type commission where we can actually look at it and say,
let's investigate and find out why this happens so it
doesn't happen to anyone. This is not about a political thing.
This is about we had an attempt to assassinate a president.
We really need to understand what a serious matter this is.
And this was a milliseconds or millimeter difference between this
being an attempt and this being an assassination.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Do you believe in divine intervention?
Speaker 9 (19:35):
So I am a.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
Person of faith, I can't explain one I hope that
it was a corrugated roof and maybe he slipped off
on one of the edges of the corrugated roof, for
he was rushed. But this the whole thing, I think,
just needs to have a better explanation to the American
people and everyone can feel comfortable.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
I agree completely. There is no excuse. Now it gets
even worse in my mind. The head of the Secret Service,
Kim Cheadle, should be fired, should have been and fired immediately.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Joe did say that he did meet with him.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
The only problem is him as a her and he
didn't apparently remember that. But he hasn't had a cabinet
meeting in eleven ten eleven months anyway, And here is
the head of the Secret Service, Kim cheat Ole, explaining, oh, yeah,
the buck stops with me, but I'm not. I'm going
to stay on as director. And we didn't put people
(20:26):
on the roof because it was a slope roof.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Should that roof have been secure? Period?
Speaker 11 (20:31):
That building in particular has a sloped roof at its
highest point, and so you know there's a safety factor
that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to
put somebody up on a slope roof, and so you
know the decision was made to secure the building from inside.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Who is most responsible for this happening?
Speaker 11 (20:48):
What I would say is that the Secret Service is
responsible for the protection of the former president.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
So the buck stops with you, the buck stops with me.
Speaker 11 (20:55):
I am the director of the Secret Service.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
You plan to stay on absolutely? I do plan to stay.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
And what about the fact that she says the slow proof.
Really that is an insane argument anyway. Joining us now
to discuss this is Congressman Corey Mills of Florida, decorated
Army combat veteran who serves on the House Armed Services
and Foreign Affairs Committee, and also Sean Parnell, retired Army
(21:20):
Infantry captain. He served in Afghanistan and was in the
front row of Butler PA when this was all unfolding
before his very eyes. I'm sure the shock and horror
of all of it will remain with him for the
rest of his life. And he was a former US
Army airborne ranger who served in the legendary tenth Mountain
(21:43):
Division for six years. Retired as a captain, had two
Bronze Stars, one for valor and a purple Heart. Gentlemen,
welcome both of you to the program. Sean, I'll start
with you. You were there, you were in the front row.
I can only imagine, you know, from my understanding, and
maybe you can give us your perspective on this is
(22:04):
multiple shots were targeting, you know, the area where.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Donald Trump was. It wasn't just the one shot that
hit him.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, that's right, Sean, and thank you for having me.
There were six shots, I think, right off the bat
and I was I could hear the rounds crack right
over my head, so they were super sonic. I could
tell that they were that the sniper was likely not
far away. I knew it was sniper fire instantly. But
the succession was here the shots. I see President Trump
(22:32):
grab his ear and go down instantly. Secret Service was
on him a second later, and then I just started.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
And by the way, those guys were amazing. They did
their job. You know, they were willing to take a
bullet for other president. The shooting was continuing while they
did that. Uh, and that's when the one gentleman got killed.
Two others were injured.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, and like, so what happened? People who got hit
leave behind me? And you know, so when seconds having
been in many of these situations before. In Afghanistan, I'm
trying to ascertain the position of the shooter and Sean
within seconds it was building or water power those And
I'm telling you this, if I knew that in the moment,
(23:15):
if I knew that, in the chaos of the moment,
surrounded by thirty thousand people who didn't know what was
going on, we had casualties right behind us there, it
is simply incomprehensible to me that the United States Secret
Service did not know that in some sort of advanced prep.
It's it's just absolutely inconceivable.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The question that was put towards Kim Cheatle.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
And again I will remind Joey that Kim Cheadle happens
to be a woman, and he said I spoke to him.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
No, it's not a hymn.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
So I'm doubtful that conversation even took place, or if
he even remembers it. But the idea that they're making
excuses for this, the perimeter has to be defined as
any area that can be a threat towards a prime mary,
as you call it, that you're trying to protect, the
primary in this case being Donald Trump. That's the perimeter well,
(24:06):
this was outside the perimeter. One hundred and thirty yards
is like a two foot putt, if you want to
use a golf analogy, or the equivalent of a layup
in basketball. You don't miss a layup in basketball, although
I occasionally missed one when I played varsity ball, depending
on you know, how focused I wasn't any given day.
But in all reality this, you know, the guy went
(24:30):
to the range we now know earlier in the day
bought the rounds that day. They knew that this guy
apparently had a range finder with him, and they did.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
They let him go.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
They identified him as a suspicious individual, then lost sight
of him, and rather than wait to secure him, they
let the president go out there.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And he was a sitting duck. It's a miracle that
this guy's alive today, it is.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It is a miracle, Sean. I mean, I'm telling you, So,
the President is up there on the stage. I was
with him thirty minutes prior, and he's up there on
the stage.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
He's doing his thing.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He's like, you know, I hate these teleprompters. I'm gonna
go off script. I tell my people, these teleprompters are boring.
He cranes his head once to look at the screens.
Got these big screens on his left and on his right.
He looks to his right points he's like, ah, you
see them immigration graphic. That's my favorite graphic. And he
turns around. He says, you see that favorite You see
that arrow, that's my favorite arrow. That's the lowest point
(25:25):
of immigration in this country. And then he turns back
to the screen, Sean, And in that second, that's when
that's when the rounds are fired. That's when he grabs
his ear, and that's when he goes down Secret Services.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
So that means between the time that the shot was
about to be taken and then taken, that's the exact
second is to his head turned, which probably threw off
the shot because it's kind of hard to miss from
one hundred and thirty yards with it, with any rifle
of that caliber exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
And Sewn, I'm telling you, and I've been thinking about
this since the rally happened, trying to unpack how something
like this could possibly happen. But it was the president's
tendency to go off script that ultimately saved his life.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
And we talk about this all the time, because you know,
I'd leave six or seven minutes every night of my
monologue to go off script. I don't. I don't stick
to a script. I write out a monologue, but then
I and it becomes extemporaneous. My whole radio shows extemporaneous.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
And and that's in that moment that saved President Trump's life,
and then it just amazing. And then it just became
about from there, you know, because the Secret Service had
their mission and that they shunting President Trump often protecting him.
Local police were treating casualties, and so it was we
had thirty thousand people in that rally who had just
trying to wrap their head around the fact that they'd
been shot at for the first time. And when you
(26:50):
do that, like everybody kind of has this realization and
it's like this, holy cow, somebody just tried to kill me.
Tried to wipe out everything that I want, everything that
I am, everything that I ever will be. And as
you grapple with the realities of that, it can be
kind of shocking. And people forget Sean. There was ninety
five degrees out, I mean, it was oppressively hot. So
(27:13):
in the panic of the moment, we had ellery folks
that were passing out. We of course had the casualties
that were shot that we were trying to triage. We
had to evacuate people that were heat casualties, to carry people,
and it was overwhelming, and then we had to lead
the evacuation. Me and a couple other combat bets that
were there lead the evacuation of the people out to
get people up safely. And then there were wheelchairs on
the ground, people who were not They weren't like no
(27:34):
Man John, they weren't left behind, but they were elderly
folks and wheelchairs being pushed by elderly people.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
I mean, it was just I was surprised to let
anybody out without checking everybody's phone. I really was. I
thought that was something that should have happened right quick.
Pery will come right back. We'll continue more with Congressman
Corey Mills, more with Sean Parnell on the other side.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I would continue now.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
With Congressman Corey Mills with Florida and on Parnell is
with US retired Army Infantry captain who was part of
the legendary tenth Mountain Division for six years. Let me
bring in Congressman Corey Mills of Florida Congressman. You see
what the Secret Service leadership, not rank and file, and
there's a difference. What they're trying to do is say, well, no,
(28:19):
we handed that off to local law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Excuse me.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
That's not their job. This is the job of the
United States Secret Service. Now we're learning that there have
been multiple requests by the Trump team for more reinforcements
for these rallies. And there's going to be a paper
trail I am told for my sources that comes out
in the days and weeks ahead that's going to approve
all of this.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And there's got to be accountability here.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I mean, they came within a millimeter of assassinating the
number one candidate for president and a former president, and
it is the biggest security failure I can think of
in our lifetime.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Exactly right, Sean. And you know, look, I conducted thousands
of advances and counter sniper I ran a counter sniper
team for the State Department for a while after I'd
left the military. I had served in the eighty secondary
one Division. I had served with attachments of Joints Special
Operations Command with Iraq. And you know, when you look
at this one, the thing that I'm calling for with
the J thirteen Commission is to essentially go forward and
(29:22):
launch an investigation because I do not trust the FBI
to do this investigation. I do not trust the Secret Service,
and I don't think that we'll ever get the transparency.
They're trying to overclassify things, so it's not transparent to
the American people. This needs to be in its entirety
transparent to the American people so we can have confidence
that this was not anything which was ill intended or nefarious,
and that it was the gross negligence that was going on.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Where that can be corrected.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
I think that we can't take anything off the table
at the moment. And I'll tell you Joe Biden couldn't
tell the difference between cheetah and cheetohs.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
This individual is so lost.
Speaker 9 (29:54):
And the fact that she isn't taking you know, responsibility
and accountability are two very different things. We're not looking
for a mea culpa. Heret had the foreign president assassinated,
and it was by the fine intervention that that millisecond
or millimeter didn't cost him his life at one hundred
and sixty yards. I can tell you right now, as
someone who's run counter sniper operations. I can take your
standard off the shelf rifle that has a TWOA, a
(30:16):
three MOA and at one point six inch grouping is
a MOA at one one hundred and sixty yards. That's
essentially one hundred yards for every inch grouping at threema,
I'm still only looking at four or five inches. In
my grouping capabilities. The average head is six x eight,
the average shoulder is twenty inches across. The average head
to waist is forty inches.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Detwe I know marksmen from that distance.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I can literally, you know, shoot at a shoot a
bullet through a wedding ring perfectly, or actually.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Picked up a rifle.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
I can take something out of Walmart, hand it to
you that's a five, five, six, two twenty three or
a three oh eight or thirty twel and I can
tell you right now, within ten minutes of you picking
up that rifle, I can get you to hit a
pie plate at one hundred and sixty to two hundred
yards without even all basic compmanship. So the fact is
is that I want to request the subpoena, the actual
(31:07):
advanced plan. I want to see exactly what their green
yellow route was. I want to see exactly what the
counter sniper's data log books shows with regards to its
range fan and its range sketches. When you get up
on a counter sniper team, the first thing you do
when you hit the ground is you start doing a
counter sniper or a sniper data book log where we
actually go ahead and do arrange. Stan say, here's the
(31:27):
things that one hundreds, here's the thing two, here's the
things that three that we perceive as an unmitigated threat
this building, Sean, is perfectly adjacent with a direct, unobstructed
line of sight to the stage that is beyond negligence.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
This is why.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
And I'm not trying to be the ten foil hat conspiracist,
but I'll tell you the difference between a conspiracy and
the fact of about six weeks in this day and age.
But the reality is is that there is no plausible
reason that you would leave this roof without someone either
on the roof or at a minimum of resources.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Of the business issue. You put a patrol.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
Car that's locked in the parking lot with the lights
on as a deterrent, as Sean can tell.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
You, how about you just surround the damn perimeter and
stop blaming local police that were. You know, pretty much
the duty for the day was traffic control. I mean,
it's ridiculous. It's their job. It's not the job of
local law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I just have to run.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
But listen, guys, please congressmen, don't give up on this investigation.
It's only begun. We've got to hold these people accountable.
End of sentence.
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