June 20, 2025 • 32 mins
Dr. Oz joins Sean to talk about the savings for "the every man" and why it's critical for the Senate to move on the big, beautiful bill!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right hour two Sean Hannity Show, toll free. It is
eight hundred and nine to four one Sean if you
want to be a part of the program. Well, predictably,
Democrats are out there doing the usual, you know, medicaid, menacecare,
and trying to scare old people into believe in it's
going to be massive cuts to Medicare, social security, poor people,
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elderly people will only eat dog food and cat food
until somebody that looks like Donald Trump comes by takes
them in their wheelchair and throws them over a cliff.
I mean, we have heard this now, these these phony
false arguments, these fear tactics, these outright lies for years.
You go back to New Gingrich and Bill Clinton when
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they reduced the rate of growth for Medicaid. They went
from seven percent a year every year percent they went
to seven percent. They're increasing spending seven percent a year
every year for seven years. But because it wasn't the
twelve thirteen percent that they originally had allocated for that's
a cut of increase because it was twice the rate
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of inflation. But that didn't stop Democrats from going out
there at demagoguing and just outright lying, just like Joe's
not a cognitive mess. Just like the borders are secure,
just like inflation is transitory, et cetera, et cetera. It's
just the same old things. Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic,
is lamophobic. They want dirty air and water, and they
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want to kill Grandma and Rampa. Doctor Oz is leading
point on this entire issue and talking about what is
really in the reconciliation build. There's no cut at all
as it relates to medicaid medicare at all. And here's
what he said.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We are responsible for jud keating about one point seven
trillion dollars the CMS. That's twice the size of the
defense budget. It's massive, puts a big target on our back.
There are massive efforts by foreign governments and you know,
domestic thieves to steal money from the programs. We have
got to clean up the fraud, waste, and abuse. The
changes that the House bill has, and they're very wise.
Ones are the ones are going to allow us to
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use these programs to protect our vulnerable, because when they
steal money from these programs, they're stealing for our most vulnerable.
This is the most ambitious health reform bill ever in
American history. It's imperative that it passes so people like
me can actually keep seeing mesh running smoothly.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Anyway, Doctor Oz also putting out here that changes to
the one Big Beautiful Bill are the ones that are
going to allow us to use these programs to protect
our vulnerable, because when they steal money from these programs,
they are stealing from our most vulnerable. It is imperative
that it passes. Now what does all that mean when
you break it down. We had John thun On earlier
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in the week. We got his take on all of this.
Doctor Oz is heading up this effort, and I want
to eliminate any fear ambiguity. I want to counter the
lies that are being told on this. Doctor melmot Oz
is with us. He is the administrator for the Centers
for Medicare Medicaid Services. Doctor Oz, welcome back, sir her
are you?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Thank you, Sean, and you articulated it so beautifully. We
love these programs. The President has said that explicitly he
loves and cherishes Medicare and Medicaid, not touching Medicare at all.
By the way, those rumors are already out there. Senators
are being approached in the supermarket aisles saying don't cut
my medicare, that no one's touching medicare. This is an
effort to clean up medicaid, take care of the waste,
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to fraud, the abuse that's in the system, so that
we have enough money to take care of the people
who are in the program. The people who we're charged
with managing, those at the dawn of their life, the children,
those are the the twilight of their life. Is the
elderly and those in the shadows sean who aren't going
to get better necessarily, and they're having difficult times, and
they've got illnesses that sometimes they're chronic. We want these
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folks managed. For sixty years, this country has been doing
it to medicaid. Every great society is judged by how
they take care of folks who are having trouble. We
are great people, we do it. But the fact that
we've allowed the system to get perverted over the last
three years to make it easy for frousters take advantage
of it, to facilitate putting people on these programs who
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don't need to be on the programs iss you're getting
their insurance elsewhere, to let people who should be trying
to get a job, not feel some pressure to do
just that it's good for them, by the way, anyway,
for many reasons. They'll make more money with a job.
But the fact we haven't urged those folks together their
house and try to participate in communities or get an
education or just volunteer is wrong and it hurts the program.
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And we're seeing this in more and more blue states
when governors can't manage their budgets anymore because they haven't
been facing these challenges head on. And in every state, sean,
in every state, the fastest growing health item is Medicaid.
It's the health budget, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Can you break down and make the distinction for people
that may not know between Medicaid and Medicare. Can you
also explain how for the same services, Medicaid pays x
Medicare pays hy three times as much. Can you explain
that so people that have an understanding of how insane
this whole system is and the urgent need for reform.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So when you get your paycheck, there's two point nine
percent taken out for the government to pay for Medicare.
Medicare is the insurance program for older Americans once you
get past age sixty five. There's some other exceptions for
chronic illness, but that's basically Medicare. Medicaid was the program
designed for folks who didn't have any money, who didn't
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meet the federal poverty level of income. So this is
typically children. You know, half the children in the country
are born into Medicaid or CHIP, the children's health insurance system.
So the kids don't have money because they're not working,
so if their parents don't have resources, they've become financially challenged.
We want to help those kids to make sure they're
given appropriate preventive care and grew up healthy and strong.
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Their moms are protected. Folks who are living a life
where they've had difficulties getting a job or holding a job,
don't have income, are also given health insurance through Medicaid.
This is a a social obligation I feel, and I
think it's the nation we have decided and for sixty
years we have provided insurance to these Medicaid books. It
was all going fine, and then over the last fifteen
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years there's been an effort by primarily a Democratic party
to re engineer it, to expand Medicaid to allow it
to cover people who were not part of the original deal.
When you do that, you create some risks. And I'm
not saying it was that on purpose, but there's no
question what happened. There was a dramatic increase in the
amount of money that was being spent to give people
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insurance through Medicaid. Even people who should be working in
jobs were now given Medicaid insurance coverage. And it has
allowed those programs, Medicaid to grow fifty persons.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Well, how did they allow for this eligibility. I'm not
trying to interrupt you.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Here, Sean. It never crossed anyone's mind sixty years ago
that you would ever give free health insurance to able
by the individuals. And they didn't put it in the
law because it never dawned at anybody. You di even
try to do that. But with the Obama cut care,
because they didn't think they could afford to do it
to the other tactics that were offered, they decided, you
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don't what, We'll just expand Medicaid. We'll give Medicaid insurance
not just to the kids and to the poor folks
and the elderly. We'll actually give it to able bodied
individuals or who don't have a job. And so by
doing that, you introduced a whole different dynamic. And then
here's the part that really gets me pure initial question.
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When Obama wrote this law in place, he said that
you could not pay more for an able bodied person
than someone on Medicare. I'll see it again. A Medicaid patient,
enabled bodied person without a job and therefore living in
poverty and given free insurance by the government was not
allowed to pay a doctor more than a senior who
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worked their whole life and put money into the system
retired on Medicare. And the reason for that is because
you don't want doctors deciding to take care of Medicaid
patients over Medicare patients, right, they're all equal. This changed
under the Biden administration. They changed to say you could
pay Medicaid patients, these able body individuals up to three
times more than Medicare. That of course, completely destroyed the
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system because now you have doctors thinking, my goodness, you know,
I get paid more for taking care of an able bodied,
healthy person on Medicaid that I do an older person
who's on Medicare. So it begins to cause huge instability
in the system. This one big, beautiful bill is a
bold and appropriate effort to fix this injustice. It's the
right thing to do. I know that we're making up
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stories around it, but I want to plaud the Republican
senators who are crafted some improvements to a build that
was already really well done by the House. Because Johnson
got did a congressional leaders together and crafted a very
very effective bill. It's exactly what we need within government
to make sure that Medicaid is going to be around
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for the next generation.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well and set it towards insolveigncy. Based on every estimate
that I've seen over the years, my question is, all right,
so you have able bodied people. Now, we do have
millions of jobs open in the country right now, we
have the latest job numbers come out. It's very clear
there's millions of them. And so you have able bodied
people that are on these Medicaid roles and they're paying
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all those that we are paying for their health care,
which ostensibly correct me if I'm wrong. Is that not
nationalized healthcare?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
This is. You know, we're edging perilously close to that.
And we have a system that would work if we
kept the incentives in place the way they were originally designed.
And Sean I can't emphasize this enough. The original program,
created sixty years ago next month worked well. I mean,
it took care of the groups that I mentioned who
otherwise would have been left behind, and as a great nation,
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we will continue to do that. The Republican Party just
wants these programs that survived. You look around the country
at states at California and Illinois, in Minnesota, which just
today I'm reading in the paper that they are starting
to pull back from some of their programs to fund
illegal immigrants on Medicaid. I mean, first of all, it's
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not the right thing to do, because people in other
states should not be forced to pay for decisions you
make in your state. But more importantly, they can't have
been afforded in their own states. So we need to
make the bold and correct decisions today to save these
vitally important programs for tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
What do we do with these states that are paying
massive amounts of money to illegal immigrants, for example, like California,
about two thirds of the healthcare payments for the poor
indigen or people that are not working. Is that not
coming from the federal government, meaning every taxpayer, not just Californians.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yes, yes, Yet I don't think people know this sewn,
and your listeners, as smart as they are, may not
have kept up with this. I'll just put the numbers
out there. Ninety percent of the money that a state
might pay to a medicaid patient who's able bodied is
going to come from the federal government ninety percent. So
they make the decision of who they want to cover,
and we're stuck with the bill. So we have said
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already in this administration, we are not going to compensate
you for undocumented individuals. If they're illegal immigrants and you
want to give them medicaid on your dollar, then it's
up to you to do that. We're not going to
do it. And that's why you now see all of
a sudden, California, Illinois, Minnesota, states that had made the
decisions and were boldly standing tall because they're going to
do the right thing, now they're saying, well, it's not
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that right because we can't afford it. All of a sudden,
instead of being in a surplus for our state budget,
we're in a big deficit. And they're not starting to
get upset that we're not compensating them. But it's not
right to ask someone living in Florida or Texas to
pay for an illegal immigrants on medicating California. They didn't
vote for it, they don't want it. It's not their responsibility.
And I'm not doing my job. I'm not representing the president.
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Well if I'm allowing that to happen. So this administration
isn't very clear. We are going to take care of
the American people. The President always has you always will.
This battle, although it's politically bruising, is the right thing
to do for those Americans who will need medicating the future.
We will preserve it, we will protect it, we will
love and cherish it.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
All right, quick, freak more with doctor Oz on the
other side, and your calls coming up. Eight hundred and
nine to four one sean, as we continue this Friday.
All right, we continue now with doctor Oz. He is
the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
Let's talk about the advancement and the future of medicine.
For example, I've brought this up the last time you
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were on the program. We have a guide, doctor Josh Umber.
He's out of Wichita, Kansas, and he had a concierge
service fifty dollars a month per adult ten dollars per child,
and it was twenty four hour concierge care. They would
take care of almost all of your medical needs, you know,
short of cancer, heart attack, stroke, and really severe circumstances.
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But if you took that fifty dollars a month and
you coupled it with a catastrophic plan with the lowest
deductible you can afford, it would fully cover individuals. It
included telemedicine as part of it, It included healthcare cooperatives
like this as part of it. I mean, we've got
to re examine, in my view of the paradigm, how
we do medicine.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, I think we need to bring in digital solutions,
and you just hinted at those programs like the one
you outline make a lot of sense because there's a
lot of alignment of incentives. This is again what the
President is so good at. You align what the federal
government wants. We've got the state governments wants with what
the doctors want, with what the patients want. So if
a doctor is getting that kind of care at those
transparent prices, and then you can you can scale it,
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you can grow it by allowing there to be some
crutching on digital solutions. I'll give you a good example.
Doctors spend most of their time charting. You don't want
your doctor and nurse writing in the chart all the time.
You want them looking at you in the eye, taking
care of you. We have technology now that would allow
us to gather while the doctors in their workflow, while
they're taking care of you. Gather the data electronically, you know,
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and table it and make it accessible and understandable with
artificial intelligence, so the patient can have a copy when
they go home to share with their family. That's something
we should be making easy to do, not hard to do.
You mentioned telemedicine another good example where especially in rural areas,
and I want to just focus on this. We have
got to help rural medicine. Members of the audience who
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are living in rural areas, the Republican Party, this bill
is going to help you and may people are making
up stories about how it's designed to hurt some of
the poor hospitals. As the opposite, the hospitals that have
lobbyists and are located in affluent urban areas, they're able
to get all the contacts they need to take money
out of the system. The folks who are left behind
need to have transparent tactics to help them. What you
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just brought up as an example of that we have
the technology to do it. We should be investing in
rural health here to make sure all Americans may be
equal access to high quality care.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Doctor Oz. I hope people are hearing you loud and clear,
because this is going to the result in improved healthcare
on a level that we've never seen before, institutionalized modernization
in the medical care system, and Americans will be healthier
as a result, Doctor Oz. Appreciate your time as always,
Thank you so for being with us. When we get
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have a great time. That much I can tell you.
I can't help it. There's certain Democrats that just stand
out that I really really love, and one of them
we don't talk enough about them, and that's Congressman Hank Johnson.
You might recall his warning that Guam make capsize.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I don't know how many square miles that is. Do
you happen to know?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I don't have that figure with me, sir.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I can certainly supply it to you.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
If you'd like.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, my fear is that the whole island will become
so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.
We don't anticipate that.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I mean, you really can't make it up. And that's
why there's like Jasmine Crockett, AOC the Squad there's just
certain Democrats I like more than others. Grandpa Bernie, I
think they're all crazy and they make representatives. Anyway, here's
Hag Johnson and his bizarre rant on Trump and the
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administration's deportations. Now, remember with deporting, let's see murderers, child molesters,
gang members, drug dealers.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
First, they came for the Latinos outside of the home depots,
and I didn't say anything about it because I'm not
a Latino at the home depot. Then they came for
the Hispanic looking folks wearing hats backward with tattoos, and
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I didn't say anything about that because I don't wear
my hair backward and I don't have any tattoos, and
I don't look like a Latino. And then they came
and arrested a white female judge, a state court judge,
And I didn't say anything then because I'm not a
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judge with a white female judge state could.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I mean again, the guy's a real genius. And then
remember when Joe Biden's classified documents, you know they were
in his garage next to the corvette. They were in
four separate locations going back to his years in the
Senate in some cases go to the library at whatever
college they were stored at. He thinks that Biden's classified
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documents could have been planted. Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Listen, things can be planted, Things can be planted in
places and then discovered conveniently.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
That may be what has occurred here. I'm not ruling
that out.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
And people on the local level, at affected school board meetings,
they won't forget the Magda Republicans descending on their school
board meetings after January six, like January six, disrupting meetings.
It was a coordinated attack happening across the country. Americans
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won't forget about it. School Board members, teachers, administrators subjected
to violence, threats of violence, harassment, intimidation, and in response
to that, the National School Board's Association sent a letter
to the Biden administration seeking federal help.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Things had gotten so far out of hand. Well, Hank Johnson,
the reason I bring all this up. The man that
thinks that Guam can capsize back in the news today
because he has an anti Trump song inspired by Jimmy
Hendrix member, Hey Joe, that's an oldie anyway.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Here's his version, compelled with a new guitar and with
some thoughts about that old song. Hey Joe, you know,
to give some commentary on where we are now.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
Hey Trump, where you're going with that gun in your hand?
Hey Trump, where you're going with that gun in your hand.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
I'm going down the street shoot down democracy. You know,
I want to be a king some day. I'm going
down and shoot democracy down. You know, I want to
be the king some day. Hey Donald Trump, we won't
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let you take out democracy down. Take it down to
the ground. Trump, We won't let you take out democracy down.
Burn it down to the ground.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Linda, you love that, but you used to be the
musician and art.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
I gotta tell you. If he tuned the guitar and
actually could sing, then it would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
But it's as you know, if he tuned the guitar
and could sing and then it would be amazing, then
it would be amazing.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
And if he you know, I don't know, maybe asked
somebody else to perform it. But if he was on
the island of Guam and it did capsize, we could
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come in useful for Hank. In fact, I think Hank
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Speaker 11 (24:21):
I am just leaving Ruth Eckert Hall right now. I
got my tickets for Saturday.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Oh really? Oh so you got your take. I'm so.
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Speaker 11 (24:31):
Yeah, there's not many left, not many. There's a couple
of seats, you know, up in front of me that
were a little pricey. But it's going to be a
big seal and it's gonna be awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I was told that there's less than like one hundred
tickets left. And but you know, I hope everyone comes,
has a great time, and we're really working on a
great show. It's one week from tomorrow. Can you believe it?
It's here. I'm excited.
Speaker 11 (24:54):
It's gonna be great. We've got one problem though, there's
a big sign. I'm standing looking at it say's no
weapons allowed on prem So I guess you're going to
be the only one that's armed.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Uh, that would be a good thing for me. But
if there's no weapons allowed on premises, that probably means
me there there will be plenty of security there. You
have to assume where I show up that there's going
to be somebody that hates my guts.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Right.
Speaker 11 (25:17):
Oh yeah, there's many liberals floating around this campus right now.
I see as I get in my car.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, you know, did they make it fun? They'll make
it entertaining.
Speaker 11 (25:28):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun. I just I really admire
the way that you can dance on the razorblade when
you're talking about, I know, your friendship with the president
and the things that you can and can't talk about.
I'm a retired Navy chief did time and a carrier
in the Gulf War, and then one of them in
the streets of bad Dad fifteen years later when the
see it and assumes were thought it was more fun
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to kill us than each other. But I really admire
what you do, and I think that, Uh, I don't
think the President is going to pass this on to
anybody else. So, I mean, Reagan had his Russians, and
Trump knows what he's got to do, and I think
he's handling it well and trying to get him a surrender.
But I don't think he's going to pass this along.
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This has to be done, now, do you agree.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well, he's been very clear, and I take him at
his word, and frankly, he has a history of keeping
his word on these issues. The Caliphate is an example.
Bagdaddy and associates is an example. So Lemani is an example.
He dropped the mother of all bombs of your recall.
So he's not against using military force. I know that
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there are you know some people that kind of pervertedly
have interpreted not forever war to mean no military use ever.
But you know, people are entitled to their opinion. I
don't really care what they think or what they say.
I have my opinion, and I just believe that evil
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has to be confronted and otherwise it would be a big,
big mistake if you allow them to get these weapons.
Speaker 12 (27:01):
That's my opinion, absolutely, So listen, good seeing good talking
in I'll see you next week.
Speaker 11 (27:07):
Hopefully I get a chance to shake your hand.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
All right, my friend. I'm looking forward to it and
thank you. We'll have a great time. We're gonna put
our heart and soul onto it. I can promise you that.
All right, quick, Frank, we'll come right back. More of
your phone calls coming up straight ahead. Eight hundred nine
four one sewn. If you want to be a part
of the program, that's eight hundred nine four one Seawan
as we continue straight ahead. All right, let's get back
to our busy phones this Friday. Eight hundred ninety four one,
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Shawn our number, David in Texas. God bless Texas, David.
Happy Friday to you, sir. What's going on?
Speaker 12 (27:37):
How are you, Sean? I'm calling you from the heather
free state in our country, the state of Texas, as
a veteran. I just wanted to thank you for the
support that you give us. I love your show. You
are the reincarnator Rush Limbaugh. You are the voice of
this move.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
There's no Rush Limba. You can't Danna. You know he's
Babe Ruth. There's only one Babe Ruth.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
Well, I even love the products on your show. I'm
hoping that taxes, no tax on overtime happens, so I
can get a burner. But listen, the reason I called
is to ask you, I got to assume that Iran
is somewhat a little bit intelligent about They know that
nobody can reach that deep except us. What do you
(28:27):
think the chances are that the material in that bunker
is being moved? Is it possible that those Chinese military
planes are moving the enriched uranium out so that it's
not destroyed.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't like any of it. I think that I'm
very suspicious either that or they're providing some military equipment
of some kind. So I really don't know, and I just, honestly,
I just hope that this issue was resolved safely. I
(29:06):
agree with the president's proposition that he keeps repeating that
they can't have nuclear weapons and unconditional surrender, And you know,
I'm not really moved by the fact at all that
he is giving them an additional two weeks. I assume
he has more information than I do, and that's the
best I can say. I mean, I think he has
(29:26):
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in his ear that would, you know, rather we turn
a blind eye, and I think that would put the
world on the precipice of a potential, you know, holocaust
in our lifetime, and that's pretty scary just based on
their previous actions, right right.
Speaker 12 (29:44):
And the other thing that concerns me is I don't
think the retaliation I RAN's going to do is going
to be anything against our military, because that's too obvious
and we're preparing for that. I agree with you about
the that came in illegally. I think it's going to
be something a sell that gets woken up here in
(30:05):
our country. I pray that doesn't happen, but I think
that that's already in place, and I just pray to
God that that's not.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Well.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
You know, the argument that people are making not to
get involved because there might be an attack on the homeland,
those people are already here. I've been saying now for
years that it's not when, it's if, it's not if
it's when it's gonna happen. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris May archist.
They allowed known terrorists in the country. We have Iranian
(30:36):
assassination squads in the country, so you know, whether this
could be a trigger. It was a trigger that was
going to be pulled at some point anyway, and I
hope to God that our FBI and that our intelligence
community is able to track these people down. I really
do with all my heart.
Speaker 12 (30:56):
Well, I appreciate your time, and I love what you do,
and thank you for the bottom of my heart as
a veteran.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Well, thank you for serving your country. You're a good man.
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eight hundred and nine to four one Sean if you
want to be a part of the program. Well, predictably,
Democrats are out there doing the usual, you know, medicaid, menacecare,
and trying to scare old people into believe in it's
going to be massive cuts to Medicare, social security, poor people,
(00:21):
elderly people will only eat dog food and cat food
until somebody that looks like Donald Trump comes by takes
them in their wheelchair and throws them over a cliff.
I mean, we have heard this now, these these phony
false arguments, these fear tactics, these outright lies for years.
You go back to New Gingrich and Bill Clinton when
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they reduced the rate of growth for Medicaid. They went
from seven percent a year every year percent they went
to seven percent. They're increasing spending seven percent a year
every year for seven years. But because it wasn't the
twelve thirteen percent that they originally had allocated for that's
a cut of increase because it was twice the rate
(01:01):
of inflation. But that didn't stop Democrats from going out
there at demagoguing and just outright lying, just like Joe's
not a cognitive mess. Just like the borders are secure,
just like inflation is transitory, et cetera, et cetera. It's
just the same old things. Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic,
is lamophobic. They want dirty air and water, and they
(01:23):
want to kill Grandma and Rampa. Doctor Oz is leading
point on this entire issue and talking about what is
really in the reconciliation build. There's no cut at all
as it relates to medicaid medicare at all. And here's
what he said.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We are responsible for jud keating about one point seven
trillion dollars the CMS. That's twice the size of the
defense budget. It's massive, puts a big target on our back.
There are massive efforts by foreign governments and you know,
domestic thieves to steal money from the programs. We have
got to clean up the fraud, waste, and abuse. The
changes that the House bill has, and they're very wise.
Ones are the ones are going to allow us to
(02:00):
use these programs to protect our vulnerable, because when they
steal money from these programs, they're stealing for our most vulnerable.
This is the most ambitious health reform bill ever in
American history. It's imperative that it passes so people like
me can actually keep seeing mesh running smoothly.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Anyway, Doctor Oz also putting out here that changes to
the one Big Beautiful Bill are the ones that are
going to allow us to use these programs to protect
our vulnerable, because when they steal money from these programs,
they are stealing from our most vulnerable. It is imperative
that it passes. Now what does all that mean when
you break it down. We had John thun On earlier
(02:36):
in the week. We got his take on all of this.
Doctor Oz is heading up this effort, and I want
to eliminate any fear ambiguity. I want to counter the
lies that are being told on this. Doctor melmot Oz
is with us. He is the administrator for the Centers
for Medicare Medicaid Services. Doctor Oz, welcome back, sir her
are you?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Thank you, Sean, and you articulated it so beautifully. We
love these programs. The President has said that explicitly he
loves and cherishes Medicare and Medicaid, not touching Medicare at all.
By the way, those rumors are already out there. Senators
are being approached in the supermarket aisles saying don't cut
my medicare, that no one's touching medicare. This is an
effort to clean up medicaid, take care of the waste,
(03:18):
to fraud, the abuse that's in the system, so that
we have enough money to take care of the people
who are in the program. The people who we're charged
with managing, those at the dawn of their life, the children,
those are the the twilight of their life. Is the
elderly and those in the shadows sean who aren't going
to get better necessarily, and they're having difficult times, and
they've got illnesses that sometimes they're chronic. We want these
(03:40):
folks managed. For sixty years, this country has been doing
it to medicaid. Every great society is judged by how
they take care of folks who are having trouble. We
are great people, we do it. But the fact that
we've allowed the system to get perverted over the last
three years to make it easy for frousters take advantage
of it, to facilitate putting people on these programs who
(04:01):
don't need to be on the programs iss you're getting
their insurance elsewhere, to let people who should be trying
to get a job, not feel some pressure to do
just that it's good for them, by the way, anyway,
for many reasons. They'll make more money with a job.
But the fact we haven't urged those folks together their
house and try to participate in communities or get an
education or just volunteer is wrong and it hurts the program.
(04:26):
And we're seeing this in more and more blue states
when governors can't manage their budgets anymore because they haven't
been facing these challenges head on. And in every state, sean,
in every state, the fastest growing health item is Medicaid.
It's the health budget, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Can you break down and make the distinction for people
that may not know between Medicaid and Medicare. Can you
also explain how for the same services, Medicaid pays x
Medicare pays hy three times as much. Can you explain
that so people that have an understanding of how insane
this whole system is and the urgent need for reform.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So when you get your paycheck, there's two point nine
percent taken out for the government to pay for Medicare.
Medicare is the insurance program for older Americans once you
get past age sixty five. There's some other exceptions for
chronic illness, but that's basically Medicare. Medicaid was the program
designed for folks who didn't have any money, who didn't
(05:27):
meet the federal poverty level of income. So this is
typically children. You know, half the children in the country
are born into Medicaid or CHIP, the children's health insurance system.
So the kids don't have money because they're not working,
so if their parents don't have resources, they've become financially challenged.
We want to help those kids to make sure they're
given appropriate preventive care and grew up healthy and strong.
(05:49):
Their moms are protected. Folks who are living a life
where they've had difficulties getting a job or holding a job,
don't have income, are also given health insurance through Medicaid.
This is a a social obligation I feel, and I
think it's the nation we have decided and for sixty
years we have provided insurance to these Medicaid books. It
was all going fine, and then over the last fifteen
(06:12):
years there's been an effort by primarily a Democratic party
to re engineer it, to expand Medicaid to allow it
to cover people who were not part of the original deal.
When you do that, you create some risks. And I'm
not saying it was that on purpose, but there's no
question what happened. There was a dramatic increase in the
amount of money that was being spent to give people
(06:32):
insurance through Medicaid. Even people who should be working in
jobs were now given Medicaid insurance coverage. And it has
allowed those programs, Medicaid to grow fifty persons.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Well, how did they allow for this eligibility. I'm not
trying to interrupt you.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Here, Sean. It never crossed anyone's mind sixty years ago
that you would ever give free health insurance to able
by the individuals. And they didn't put it in the
law because it never dawned at anybody. You di even
try to do that. But with the Obama cut care,
because they didn't think they could afford to do it
to the other tactics that were offered, they decided, you
(07:04):
don't what, We'll just expand Medicaid. We'll give Medicaid insurance
not just to the kids and to the poor folks
and the elderly. We'll actually give it to able bodied
individuals or who don't have a job. And so by
doing that, you introduced a whole different dynamic. And then
here's the part that really gets me pure initial question.
(07:24):
When Obama wrote this law in place, he said that
you could not pay more for an able bodied person
than someone on Medicare. I'll see it again. A Medicaid patient,
enabled bodied person without a job and therefore living in
poverty and given free insurance by the government was not
allowed to pay a doctor more than a senior who
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worked their whole life and put money into the system
retired on Medicare. And the reason for that is because
you don't want doctors deciding to take care of Medicaid
patients over Medicare patients, right, they're all equal. This changed
under the Biden administration. They changed to say you could
pay Medicaid patients, these able body individuals up to three
times more than Medicare. That of course, completely destroyed the
(08:09):
system because now you have doctors thinking, my goodness, you know,
I get paid more for taking care of an able bodied,
healthy person on Medicaid that I do an older person
who's on Medicare. So it begins to cause huge instability
in the system. This one big, beautiful bill is a
bold and appropriate effort to fix this injustice. It's the
right thing to do. I know that we're making up
(08:30):
stories around it, but I want to plaud the Republican
senators who are crafted some improvements to a build that
was already really well done by the House. Because Johnson
got did a congressional leaders together and crafted a very
very effective bill. It's exactly what we need within government
to make sure that Medicaid is going to be around
(08:52):
for the next generation.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well and set it towards insolveigncy. Based on every estimate
that I've seen over the years, my question is, all right,
so you have able bodied people. Now, we do have
millions of jobs open in the country right now, we
have the latest job numbers come out. It's very clear
there's millions of them. And so you have able bodied
people that are on these Medicaid roles and they're paying
(09:16):
all those that we are paying for their health care,
which ostensibly correct me if I'm wrong. Is that not
nationalized healthcare?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
This is. You know, we're edging perilously close to that.
And we have a system that would work if we
kept the incentives in place the way they were originally designed.
And Sean I can't emphasize this enough. The original program,
created sixty years ago next month worked well. I mean,
it took care of the groups that I mentioned who
otherwise would have been left behind, and as a great nation,
(09:47):
we will continue to do that. The Republican Party just
wants these programs that survived. You look around the country
at states at California and Illinois, in Minnesota, which just
today I'm reading in the paper that they are starting
to pull back from some of their programs to fund
illegal immigrants on Medicaid. I mean, first of all, it's
(10:07):
not the right thing to do, because people in other
states should not be forced to pay for decisions you
make in your state. But more importantly, they can't have
been afforded in their own states. So we need to
make the bold and correct decisions today to save these
vitally important programs for tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
What do we do with these states that are paying
massive amounts of money to illegal immigrants, for example, like California,
about two thirds of the healthcare payments for the poor
indigen or people that are not working. Is that not
coming from the federal government, meaning every taxpayer, not just Californians.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yes, yes, Yet I don't think people know this sewn,
and your listeners, as smart as they are, may not
have kept up with this. I'll just put the numbers
out there. Ninety percent of the money that a state
might pay to a medicaid patient who's able bodied is
going to come from the federal government ninety percent. So
they make the decision of who they want to cover,
and we're stuck with the bill. So we have said
(11:04):
already in this administration, we are not going to compensate
you for undocumented individuals. If they're illegal immigrants and you
want to give them medicaid on your dollar, then it's
up to you to do that. We're not going to
do it. And that's why you now see all of
a sudden, California, Illinois, Minnesota, states that had made the
decisions and were boldly standing tall because they're going to
do the right thing, now they're saying, well, it's not
(11:25):
that right because we can't afford it. All of a sudden,
instead of being in a surplus for our state budget,
we're in a big deficit. And they're not starting to
get upset that we're not compensating them. But it's not
right to ask someone living in Florida or Texas to
pay for an illegal immigrants on medicating California. They didn't
vote for it, they don't want it. It's not their responsibility.
And I'm not doing my job. I'm not representing the president.
(11:47):
Well if I'm allowing that to happen. So this administration
isn't very clear. We are going to take care of
the American people. The President always has you always will.
This battle, although it's politically bruising, is the right thing
to do for those Americans who will need medicating the future.
We will preserve it, we will protect it, we will
love and cherish it.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
All right, quick, freak more with doctor Oz on the
other side, and your calls coming up. Eight hundred and
nine to four one sean, as we continue this Friday.
All right, we continue now with doctor Oz. He is
the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
Let's talk about the advancement and the future of medicine.
For example, I've brought this up the last time you
(12:25):
were on the program. We have a guide, doctor Josh Umber.
He's out of Wichita, Kansas, and he had a concierge
service fifty dollars a month per adult ten dollars per child,
and it was twenty four hour concierge care. They would
take care of almost all of your medical needs, you know,
short of cancer, heart attack, stroke, and really severe circumstances.
(12:46):
But if you took that fifty dollars a month and
you coupled it with a catastrophic plan with the lowest
deductible you can afford, it would fully cover individuals. It
included telemedicine as part of it, It included healthcare cooperatives
like this as part of it. I mean, we've got
to re examine, in my view of the paradigm, how
we do medicine.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, I think we need to bring in digital solutions,
and you just hinted at those programs like the one
you outline make a lot of sense because there's a
lot of alignment of incentives. This is again what the
President is so good at. You align what the federal
government wants. We've got the state governments wants with what
the doctors want, with what the patients want. So if
a doctor is getting that kind of care at those
transparent prices, and then you can you can scale it,
(13:27):
you can grow it by allowing there to be some
crutching on digital solutions. I'll give you a good example.
Doctors spend most of their time charting. You don't want
your doctor and nurse writing in the chart all the time.
You want them looking at you in the eye, taking
care of you. We have technology now that would allow
us to gather while the doctors in their workflow, while
they're taking care of you. Gather the data electronically, you know,
(13:48):
and table it and make it accessible and understandable with
artificial intelligence, so the patient can have a copy when
they go home to share with their family. That's something
we should be making easy to do, not hard to do.
You mentioned telemedicine another good example where especially in rural areas,
and I want to just focus on this. We have
got to help rural medicine. Members of the audience who
(14:09):
are living in rural areas, the Republican Party, this bill
is going to help you and may people are making
up stories about how it's designed to hurt some of
the poor hospitals. As the opposite, the hospitals that have
lobbyists and are located in affluent urban areas, they're able
to get all the contacts they need to take money
out of the system. The folks who are left behind
need to have transparent tactics to help them. What you
(14:32):
just brought up as an example of that we have
the technology to do it. We should be investing in
rural health here to make sure all Americans may be
equal access to high quality care.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Doctor Oz. I hope people are hearing you loud and clear,
because this is going to the result in improved healthcare
on a level that we've never seen before, institutionalized modernization
in the medical care system, and Americans will be healthier
as a result, Doctor Oz. Appreciate your time as always,
Thank you so for being with us. When we get
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I can't help it. There's certain Democrats that just stand
out that I really really love, and one of them
we don't talk enough about them, and that's Congressman Hank Johnson.
You might recall his warning that Guam make capsize.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I don't know how many square miles that is. Do
you happen to know?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I don't have that figure with me, sir.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I can certainly supply it to you.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
If you'd like.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, my fear is that the whole island will become
so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.
We don't anticipate that.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I mean, you really can't make it up. And that's
why there's like Jasmine Crockett, AOC the Squad there's just
certain Democrats I like more than others. Grandpa Bernie, I
think they're all crazy and they make representatives. Anyway, here's
Hag Johnson and his bizarre rant on Trump and the
(18:05):
administration's deportations. Now, remember with deporting, let's see murderers, child molesters,
gang members, drug dealers.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
First, they came for the Latinos outside of the home depots,
and I didn't say anything about it because I'm not
a Latino at the home depot. Then they came for
the Hispanic looking folks wearing hats backward with tattoos, and
(18:39):
I didn't say anything about that because I don't wear
my hair backward and I don't have any tattoos, and
I don't look like a Latino. And then they came
and arrested a white female judge, a state court judge,
And I didn't say anything then because I'm not a
(19:01):
judge with a white female judge state could.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I mean again, the guy's a real genius. And then
remember when Joe Biden's classified documents, you know they were
in his garage next to the corvette. They were in
four separate locations going back to his years in the
Senate in some cases go to the library at whatever
college they were stored at. He thinks that Biden's classified
(19:26):
documents could have been planted. Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Listen, things can be planted, Things can be planted in
places and then discovered conveniently.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
That may be what has occurred here. I'm not ruling
that out.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
And people on the local level, at affected school board meetings,
they won't forget the Magda Republicans descending on their school
board meetings after January six, like January six, disrupting meetings.
It was a coordinated attack happening across the country. Americans
(20:07):
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to violence, threats of violence, harassment, intimidation, and in response
to that, the National School Board's Association sent a letter
to the Biden administration seeking federal help.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Things had gotten so far out of hand. Well, Hank Johnson,
the reason I bring all this up. The man that
thinks that Guam can capsize back in the news today
because he has an anti Trump song inspired by Jimmy
Hendrix member, Hey Joe, that's an oldie anyway.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Here's his version, compelled with a new guitar and with
some thoughts about that old song. Hey Joe, you know,
to give some commentary on where we are now.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
Hey Trump, where you're going with that gun in your hand?
Hey Trump, where you're going with that gun in your hand.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
I'm going down the street shoot down democracy. You know,
I want to be a king some day. I'm going
down and shoot democracy down. You know, I want to
be the king some day. Hey Donald Trump, we won't
(21:58):
let you take out democracy down. Take it down to
the ground. Trump, We won't let you take out democracy down.
Burn it down to the ground.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Linda, you love that, but you used to be the
musician and art.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
I gotta tell you. If he tuned the guitar and
actually could sing, then it would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
But it's as you know, if he tuned the guitar
and could sing and then it would be amazing, then
it would be amazing.
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somebody else to perform it. But if he was on
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my free state of Florida. Joe, Hey, how are you
glad you called?
Speaker 11 (24:21):
I am just leaving Ruth Eckert Hall right now. I
got my tickets for Saturday.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Oh really? Oh so you got your take. I'm so.
I'm so happy. That's awesome.
Speaker 11 (24:31):
Yeah, there's not many left, not many. There's a couple
of seats, you know, up in front of me that
were a little pricey. But it's going to be a
big seal and it's gonna be awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I was told that there's less than like one hundred
tickets left. And but you know, I hope everyone comes,
has a great time, and we're really working on a
great show. It's one week from tomorrow. Can you believe it?
It's here. I'm excited.
Speaker 11 (24:54):
It's gonna be great. We've got one problem though, there's
a big sign. I'm standing looking at it say's no
weapons allowed on prem So I guess you're going to
be the only one that's armed.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Uh, that would be a good thing for me. But
if there's no weapons allowed on premises, that probably means
me there there will be plenty of security there. You
have to assume where I show up that there's going
to be somebody that hates my guts.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Right.
Speaker 11 (25:17):
Oh yeah, there's many liberals floating around this campus right now.
I see as I get in my car.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, you know, did they make it fun? They'll make
it entertaining.
Speaker 11 (25:28):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun. I just I really admire
the way that you can dance on the razorblade when
you're talking about, I know, your friendship with the president
and the things that you can and can't talk about.
I'm a retired Navy chief did time and a carrier
in the Gulf War, and then one of them in
the streets of bad Dad fifteen years later when the
see it and assumes were thought it was more fun
(25:49):
to kill us than each other. But I really admire
what you do, and I think that, Uh, I don't
think the President is going to pass this on to
anybody else. So, I mean, Reagan had his Russians, and
Trump knows what he's got to do, and I think
he's handling it well and trying to get him a surrender.
But I don't think he's going to pass this along.
(26:09):
This has to be done, now, do you agree.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well, he's been very clear, and I take him at
his word, and frankly, he has a history of keeping
his word on these issues. The Caliphate is an example.
Bagdaddy and associates is an example. So Lemani is an example.
He dropped the mother of all bombs of your recall.
So he's not against using military force. I know that
(26:33):
there are you know some people that kind of pervertedly
have interpreted not forever war to mean no military use ever.
But you know, people are entitled to their opinion. I
don't really care what they think or what they say.
I have my opinion, and I just believe that evil
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has to be confronted and otherwise it would be a big,
big mistake if you allow them to get these weapons.
Speaker 12 (27:01):
That's my opinion, absolutely, So listen, good seeing good talking
in I'll see you next week.
Speaker 11 (27:07):
Hopefully I get a chance to shake your hand.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
All right, my friend. I'm looking forward to it and
thank you. We'll have a great time. We're gonna put
our heart and soul onto it. I can promise you that.
All right, quick, Frank, we'll come right back. More of
your phone calls coming up straight ahead. Eight hundred nine
four one sewn. If you want to be a part
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to our busy phones this Friday. Eight hundred ninety four one,
(27:31):
Shawn our number, David in Texas. God bless Texas, David.
Happy Friday to you, sir. What's going on?
Speaker 12 (27:37):
How are you, Sean? I'm calling you from the heather
free state in our country, the state of Texas, as
a veteran. I just wanted to thank you for the
support that you give us. I love your show. You
are the reincarnator Rush Limbaugh. You are the voice of
this move.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
There's no Rush Limba. You can't Danna. You know he's
Babe Ruth. There's only one Babe Ruth.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
Well, I even love the products on your show. I'm
hoping that taxes, no tax on overtime happens, so I
can get a burner. But listen, the reason I called
is to ask you, I got to assume that Iran
is somewhat a little bit intelligent about They know that
nobody can reach that deep except us. What do you
(28:27):
think the chances are that the material in that bunker
is being moved? Is it possible that those Chinese military
planes are moving the enriched uranium out so that it's
not destroyed.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't like any of it. I think that I'm
very suspicious either that or they're providing some military equipment
of some kind. So I really don't know, and I just, honestly,
I just hope that this issue was resolved safely. I
(29:06):
agree with the president's proposition that he keeps repeating that
they can't have nuclear weapons and unconditional surrender, And you know,
I'm not really moved by the fact at all that
he is giving them an additional two weeks. I assume
he has more information than I do, and that's the
best I can say. I mean, I think he has
(29:26):
a track record. I know there are people isolationist types
in his ear that would, you know, rather we turn
a blind eye, and I think that would put the
world on the precipice of a potential, you know, holocaust
in our lifetime, and that's pretty scary just based on
their previous actions, right right.
Speaker 12 (29:44):
And the other thing that concerns me is I don't
think the retaliation I RAN's going to do is going
to be anything against our military, because that's too obvious
and we're preparing for that. I agree with you about
the that came in illegally. I think it's going to
be something a sell that gets woken up here in
(30:05):
our country. I pray that doesn't happen, but I think
that that's already in place, and I just pray to
God that that's not.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Well.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
You know, the argument that people are making not to
get involved because there might be an attack on the homeland,
those people are already here. I've been saying now for
years that it's not when, it's if, it's not if
it's when it's gonna happen. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris May archist.
They allowed known terrorists in the country. We have Iranian
(30:36):
assassination squads in the country, so you know, whether this
could be a trigger. It was a trigger that was
going to be pulled at some point anyway, and I
hope to God that our FBI and that our intelligence
community is able to track these people down. I really
do with all my heart.
Speaker 12 (30:56):
Well, I appreciate your time, and I love what you do,
and thank you for the bottom of my heart as
a veteran.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Well, thank you for serving your country. You're a good man.
God bless you, God bless Texas, my friend. Eight hundred
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