December 22, 2025 • 30 mins
Rose Tennent sits in for Sean Hannity and welcomes Jenny Korn, Director of the historic White House Faith Office, to discuss the growing role of faith in public leadership. Korn reflects on the first-ever Christmas worship service at the Pentagon alongside Franklin Graham, drawing a powerful connection to the legacy of Billy Graham and faith’s longstanding presence across presidential administrations. She explains the mission of the Faith Office as a direct report within the West Wing under Donald Trump, focused on giving people of faith a meaningful voice in federal policy. The conversation explores religious liberty, prayer in the Oval Office, and concerns about government overreach, emphasizing why faith, far from being a weakness, remains foundational to leadership and freedom in America.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
My name is Rose Shawan is taking a well deserved
time off. I'm so excited about this next guest because
you know, I don't know if you all know this,
but last week she and others gathered at the Pentagon.
It was the first ever Christmas worship service, and joining them,
among others, was Franklin Graham. And I think that's interesting
because one of the things I was thinking about before
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preparing for the show and talking to our guests was
that Billy Graham met after World War Two with I
believe every single president after that time, and he did
get a chance, if I remember correctly, to meet with
President Trump before Billy passed away.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I think it was in twenty thirteen. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
All of those presidents, they may not have shared the
same theology, but there were those who understood something larger
than politics was at work, especially if you're holding that office.
And because something larger than politics is at work, for
the first time ever, America has a White House Faith Office,
and the director of that faith office is here with
us today, Jenny Korn.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Thank you, Rose.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
It's so wonderful to be on with you, and Merry
Christmas to everyone listening.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Thank you same to you.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And you know, I am so excited to talk to
you because I did a lot of research on you.
Linda adores you, so I mean that's all I needed
to hear.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Anyway, She's amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I love her.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
She is I do too.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Everyone does so well, not maybe not everyone, but they
don't have good taste.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I think I don't like the way this interview is going.
Let's go back to the first party.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
To go down here for the listeners who might not
be familiar with your role, Jenny, what is the mission
of the White House Faith Office?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Just quickly, if you could, thank.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You Rose, and thank you Linda for having me on,
and for Hannity for having this amazing show, and for
all of you listening. I'm so excited in this new role.
You know, I've been in government and campaigns and politics
and policy for about twenty five years and I would
never thought that my career would beer in this into
this coalition, but has been so amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
For the first time ever.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
If people don't know, the White House has a White
House Faith Office, newly created in a historic now some
of you might say, well, you know, the President's had
like initiatives and offices and other buildings. Yes, but this
is the first time, and that's the credit to President
Trump that there is a White House Faith Office in
the West Wing as a direct report to President Trump
and works directly with Domestic Policy Council on policy. Because
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people say, you know, what does the Faith Office do
all day?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Do you pray all day? Which is kind of you know,
of course we do pray a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
You'll be all happy to know that the floor and
those walls have been anointed with oil, and we've had
prayer from so many different people in our office. But truly,
what we're there to do is to give a voice
to people of faith in their federal government, because far
too long, the federal government and really even state and
local have been discriminating against people of faith instead of
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championing people faith. So that's who we are, and that's
the whole reason why you do.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I love that. I love that you said you anointed
with oil. I do that every time I move into
a new home or if someone I care about moves
into a new place or office. It's I think it's significant,
and I love that you're there. It must be really
amazing for you to suddenly find yourself at the White House.
I mean, you've probably never imagined you would be there,
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did you.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, this is I will tell you.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
So the answer to that is yes.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But I have been so blessed.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
This is my third time back at the White House.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I was there in two four.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And then did all four years with President Trump. The
first time, I was one of about twelve and I
say I have the bruises to prove it, because that
was a rough and tumble first administration. But you know,
when I was in the office the public Leason, it's
to handle all the coalition's Hispanic women, faith veterans, you
name it. And then came to know Pastor Paula White,
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who was President Trump's pastor for twenty five years, and
her and I became very close, started working on the
faith initiative that was there beforehand, got very close, and
then we created what was called National Faith Advisory Board
on the outside during the four years President Trump was
out of office, and so we went to him of
March of twenty twenty four and said, sir, here's this
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idea about a faith office. Now we know branding so
we named it President Trump's White House Faith Office. He
loves made a few things, you know, read through it.
It's only four pages. Read through it made the.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Markings of like, okay, let's add this, let's do this.
But you know, it was remarkable. He didn't have to
ask an advisor should he do this.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
He immediately wanted to do this and wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
To bring into the White House. Get Susie on the phone,
we walk her through it too.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Promises made, promises kept. We have this White House Faith
Office since February seventh of this year, and he's very.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Involved with what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
He wants to know how the pastors and rabbis and
all the faith leaders are doing. He wants to know about,
you know, their cases. Some of them have been discriminated,
especially order the Biden administration. And you know what, I
just only because I'm going to forget if I don't
say this. You mentioned Franklin Graham. Reverend Franklin Graham is
a wonderful man and he has been such a great
partner with us. But think about this, going back, Billy Graham,
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his father worked with every president, whether they were a
Republican or not. I was welcomed into the White House.
The first time that the Grand family was not invited
to the White House was during the Obama administration and
then the Biden administration. So something is fundamentally going wrong
with the federal government that doesn't you know, who cares
about the politics of it, but doesn't invite people of faith.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
To the White House and really uplift them.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, you're making a distinction because I know that. I
think that Franklin Graham did visit Barack Obama at his home.
I'm pretty sure I remember that. But you're right, where's
the invitation to the White House. So that's significant. And
I have to say, Jenny, in an era where faith
is so often pushed to the margins of public life,
or else it's treated as something private and inconvenient, it's
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really nice to see that we have a White House
that still understands what so many presidents once did when
you bring up the previous presidents, that prayer isn't a
weakness in leadership. It and there is a recognition here
and I applaud that, I really do so while we're
on that subject, because religious freedom, I mean, we consider
here in this country religious liberty are America's first freedom.
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So where do you see the greatest threats to religious
freedom today? And we can even go beyond this country.
You can start with this country. But I know that
you're also working with Nigerian Christians.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
So I would love for all of your listeners, especially
I know that they're smart and they talk to a
lot of family and friends that when people come at
you with oh, separation of church and state, because we
get that a lot right, and I just remind people
that the separation of church and state means that the
government cannot dictate to you what religion you can be.
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It does not mean that people of faith don't have
a in the policies that are directly affecting them. And
that's why saying giving them a voice is a big deal.
We engage thousands of faith leaders. And you talk about prayer,
We pray with the president in the oval office, whether
it's the cameras are on or off, because he welcomes prayer,
and not just from evangelicals, but from every denomination, Catholic, rabbi, emoons.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
You name it.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We make sure that we're there for all people of
faith in this country because we were built on faith.
But if you just look at the Biden administration, you
know when people say, oh, you know why I have
my religious career, I'm fine, I can go to church.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I could pastor, I could do whatever I want.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
We have a problem in this country when twenty three
innocent people who are praying outside of an abortion clinic
silently are put in jail and the President of the
United States has to pardon them. That's what President Trump did.
We have a problem when the IRS, instead of collecting
your money, which we don't like anyway, are watching pastors
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sermons to find out if they're going against the Johnson
Amendment in their opinion. And then you meagine you're a
medium sized pastor, you know, a medium sized church, and
you get a letter from the IRS.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
That's really scary.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
We always say the process is the punishment because it
never gets to the Supreme Court on those issues. Because
if it did, and we have plenty of scholars that
will say this, we would win that time and time again.
We have a problem when people who are our heroes
in the military may be seals who are kicked out
of the military under Biden because they would not get
a religious exemption for the COVID vaccine. So all of
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these and I can, you know, go fifteen minutes of
the examples of where the federal government discriminated against.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
People of faith.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
But what we're doing is turning that around. We're working
with Department of Justice, working with the State Department, working
Department of War. Basically every department and agency has an
extension of our office with a faith director specifically in
that department and agency to make sure that people's rights
are upheld, their religious rights are of health. And so
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we are fixing policy throughout the federal government so that
people have their rights, and so fixing it in the workplace,
whether you want to wear a cross or want to
pray at work, the fact that you can do prayer
in school. So we're all the things that were sort
of turned on their head in the Biden administration. We're
fixing those or trying to codify as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, that's wonderful because when you think about it, here
we are celebrating two hundred and fifty years of liberty.
One of the first things, one of the main reasons
that our founding fathers arrived here was for religious liberty,
and they would be turning in their graves if they
knew that we are actually fighting for that at this
moment in this country.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I mean again, we have to remind people that we
were founded on God, we were founded on faith, and
we were founded on a Christian Christian faith. But we
will Christian because we are a free country. Now, you
did hit on a thing I didn't mention, which is Nigeria.
I just happened to go to Africa in November. We
went to five different countries and meeting with all the presidents,
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meeting with space leaders from five different countries, and Nigeria
is so important. And this is what it shows you
the heart of President Trump. He learned and we put
together briefings on it about how many Christians were being
persecuted in Nigeria. And he went and put that post
on his own and then did two subsequent posts about
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saying that the killing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
In Nigeria persecuted Christians had to stop.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
And unfortunately, the Nigerian president came out and said, oh,
this isn't happening, that's not why they're being killed. Well,
that didn't sit well with the president, so he came
out again. So working with.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Senator or Secretary of Rubio.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Our office met with their Nigerian delegation and.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
We are working together. I will say the.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Good news is that Nigerian a delegation wants to work
with the US. They say said to us, you know,
our constitution is the most close institution to the United
States Constitution in.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
All of Africa.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And we said that is awesome.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
But our constitution has stayed the same. But yet a
president before that was discriminating against people's faith.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So it really matters who.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
The president is. Your president's going to have to step up.
And then you've got making Minaj coming out of her
you know, celebrity and making us a big deal.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So we are working very hard in.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Nigeria and the good news is that the Nigerian government
is a willing partner to work with us. And you're
going to see a lot of that on the horizon
as more things are are we're able to announce.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, that just does my heart good because for
so many of us, when we hear what's going on
and how those Nigerian Christians have been persecuted, you know,
you wonder what can we do, how can we help?
And we know that our country is helping. It's just
so heartwarming and I'm so pleased to hear that. Thank
you for what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Really and you should you should be everyone should the
two sec Secretary of Rubio, Secretary of Headsets, that President,
the Vice President. Everybody's honest and.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Working towards a solution.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Hard to turn around a problem when it's an Islamic
terrorists and so it's it's not the Nigerian government, right,
it's that they're being overrun, but they continue to allow
that to happen. It's got to make this stop. And
so you know, the president is all about peace deals
and he's wanting to make sure that peace reigns throughout
the world.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Jenny, I you know when we talk about the Chaplain
Corps and Linda said that you're you know that the
Secretary of War's decision to make Chaplain Corps great again.
It really is encouraging to hear because I am reminded.
I'm someone who reads a lot about history and history
of wars. And you know, there's that old saying there
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are no atheists in foxholes, but so many times you
will hear stories from men who fought in battle and
thought they were going to die or they were next
to someone who was in fact dying and their first
thoughts actually their first thought of their mother. A lot
of times in books that I've read, I like that,
but also God. So it's great that you're bringing that
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back to because that's something that I think is so essential,
especially when you're out there and you're fighting for righteousness
and you're fighting, you know, for to keep America safe.
To know that they have that, that that foundation is
available to them where they serve is remarkable.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's so good.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I mean, it has said since day one when we
met with him, has been all over this. He I mean,
he has really run with this and just brought you know,
they do a Bible study, a worship service every month
for the staff, making you know, really rising up with
the chaplaincy very close to my heart. Hasn't spent twenty
two years in the Marine Corps, and I can tell
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you that when he was in combat, boy, prayer was
a big help on our part and their part. And
having a chaplain with them and available to us such
a big deal. And I don't know anybody that would
be against having the child's there because again chaplains are
ecumenical and so whatever faith you are. The chaplain is
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there to pray with you, to help you through things
daily life too, just the marriages between the people in
the military and whether you're in like you said, you're
in combat. The chaplain y program is so important. And
there's some fun that I'll pease out a little bit
that we're going to do for next year with the
chaplain sustinc tuned for that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Oh, that's right, we will be. We'll be anxious to
hear more. Hey, I have to say, Jenny Corn, thank
you so much for what you're doing. And with everything
that's happening and Americans steel discouraged about a lot of
things in the nation's direction. I'm so glad that faith
still plays a restoring hope and all of this. So
God bless you, and thank you so much for what
you're doing.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Thank you so much, Thank you for having me. God
bless you.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Merry Christmas, Verry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
All right, we'll be back with more of Handity after this,
so don't go too far away. We've got lots planned
for you.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You're in love it.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Welcome back to the Sean Handy Show. I'm rose sitting
in for on today, so love being with his audience.
And with everybody in the New York studios. These people
are great to work with. I promised you i'd take
your phone calls, and that's exactly what I'm going to
do right now. The phone number is one eight hundred
ninety four to one Sean, eight hundred nine one Sean.
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And I'm going to take Russ because he's come from Pennsylvania.
He's the first one on the list. And Russ, what
in a fascinating story. You can't wait to hear it.
You're from PA. And you know doctor Carson.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yes, I met him forty five years ago when he
operated on my son's neck at Johns Hopkins. I originally
was living in Baltimore, Maryland area.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
No kidding.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And your son was how old at the time, because
he was a pediatrician, he was a surgeon.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Not even about not even two months old.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
No, you're kidding.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
No, I'm not kidding. I pray Wow Arson every day
and thank God for him. He really really say, my son,
I hear.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I have heard that more than once about him and
what he's done for children and the surgeries he's performed.
What an amazing man, What a gifted man. And I'll
tell you something Russ. What I really appreciate about him
is that he did have a hard time when he
was growing up, and he was told by others, you know,
classmates and so forth, that he was stupid.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
He's anything but stupid. He's one of the.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Most brilliant minds, brilliant surgeons that we could ever hope for.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yes, he is. I thank God every day for doctor
Dinah and I pray for.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I'll bet you do, Sweetie. Thank you so much for
that call. I appreciate that. Oh that is so beautiful.
Phil is calling from Michigan. How are you Phil doing well?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
Hey? Before I start, I want to wish you a
very merry and blessed Christmas.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Thank you someme to you and all of you.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I'm sorry you were talking about socialism earlier. You know,
there is nothing stopping every person who advocates for that
from donating everything they can. You got billionaires like Sorrows
who could put you know, money instead of NGOs into
a massive fund and they can dole it out how
they see fit operated as a not for profit and
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have their own little socialist paradigm. The reason they don't
do it is because they don't want to donate their money.
They want to donate our.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Money, exactly right. And did you you know that reminds
me of the story too, AOC. I guess, I don't
know if it was last week that made the news
about her campaign finance filings, and it has showed that
about fifty thousand dollars was spent on luxury hotels, high
end dining, and I guess she this rented venue that
she had in Puerto Rico was pretty costly too. And
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the reason that this matters Phil is because she has
built her public image not only around anti wealth rhetoric,
but she's been very vocal in her opposition to jentrif cation,
if you will, And she has openly identified as a socialist,
and that's the backdrop. And yet she is the first
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one to criticize wealth and the top performers. But at
the same time, she feels very comfortable taking some of
our campaign money and living the high life. And it
just reminds me of the whole you know, socialism for thee,
but not for me. That's her attitude. The contrast couldn't
be clearer. On one hand, she's a politician who condemns
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wealth and privilege and excess and on the other her
campaign funds are being used for luxury accommodations.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I mean, come on.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
I played in bands for years and one of my
guitarists was a very, very very devout Democrat and kept
talking about how, you know, Democrats want to help their man,
Republicans are just out for themselves, and I had to
point out to them, Look, between you and Kim, you
have four cars, a pickup truck, you just bought a
new house, and between the two of you make about
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one hundred and seventy five thousand a year. Now of
Bill Clinton's magic poverty number I think was around thirty
seven thousand. So until you give away everything above that,
keep your hand out of my pocket.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well said, thank you, Thanks Bill, Merry Christmas, and thanks
for the call.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Jeff is calling from Florida, where it's probably a lot
warmer than where I am right now.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Hi, Jeff, how are you? John?
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Good?
Speaker 6 (19:24):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And very well? Thank you.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
You know, I just want to comment on the left
insistence that the Establishment Clause was about the separation of
church and state. Now, that was a sidebar, but the
primary purpose and theme of the Establishment Clause was to
allow Christians who came to this country to worship in
any manner that they chose. Right, they were chased, They
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were chased out of Europe by King James and the
Anglican Church over there. If you know, you know English
for Anglicans, the Spanish, the Spanish and the Italians were Catholics.
The Germans were Lutherans. Well, Lutherans could be Catholics, and
Catholics could be Anglicans, and Anglicans.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Could be Lutherans.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
And there was no worshiping on public streets. So whenever
Bradford came here with settlers seeking religious freedom, the Puritans
were already here. Puritans derived from the word purified to
purify the Anglican Church. So the settlers here wanted to
worship in any way to choose, were being prosecuted, persecuted
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by the Anglicans. And that's when Jefferson and Madison decided
that we needed an establishment clause to allow them to
worship in any manner that they chose, or like the
leopard like to say, or not worship at all. Exactly
was the private the primary purpose. And we were founded,
settled and framed by Christians and built on Christian values,
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the fifty six Framers were all Christians. You know colleges
in this country Harvard, do you? Oh, yes, it's University
of Virginia.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
William and Mary.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
We're all founded as Christian missionaries for the sole purpose
of educating Christian ministers.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Exactly. You are exactly right. Boy, have we come a
long way, baby, haven't we?
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Yes? And back in the day there were two Christian
services every day in the Capitol building and there were
two Christian ministers appointed and Jefferson, when he was president,
on a regular basis, who'd ride his horse to the
capital to attend that a minister. But not only that.
To this day, that is still a tradition. To this day,
there are two Christian ministers assigned to the Capitol.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Thank you for reminding us of that. And you're absolutely right,
Thank you, jeff Thank you. I appreciate that phone call.
You're absolutely right, and we do forget that because we honestly,
who remembers Ask anyone on the street did you know
that Harvard started out as a Christian institution of education
and they don't know it. I want to jump to
Rudy real quick too in Indiana. Hey, Rudy, thanks for
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calling in Merry Christmas.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Really, thanks, thanks for taking my call. Really, if you
look at it, it's not totally the government's fault. The
government lost their resolve and we as citizens have lost
our resolve, and we should also uphold the constitution and
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act with resolve. And we've somehow lost our way and
if we could just hang on to it and stand
firmly on it, we could wade our way through all
these troubles.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Well, you know, Rudy, I mean, that's a great point.
Here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
The resolve for what if you you know, young people today,
and that encompasses actually a very large number of younger people.
I'm talking millennials on down. They don't really know what
it is that they have resolved for. What is the constitution?
What does that provide for us? Why is it the
most radical document of all time? Why have no other
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governments done exactly what we have done?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know why?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Because it would mean giving up control. And that's why
they don't. But see, they are not taught any of
this in school and public schools are not taught this
in the universities. Our youth, our young people here in
this country do not understand what it is they should
have a resolve for, and that is for liberty. And
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it is liberty that lifts all men and women up,
where socialism does just the opposite, It brings everybody down
to a level of misery. They don't understand that. They
don't understand the radical document that the Constitution is and
why it's so radical. It's radical because no other government
would do that. No other government is willing to give
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the control to the people. Now we've lost that over time.
We have a republic, doctor Benjamin Frank, but it's holding
on by a thread. Two hundred and fifty years later,
they understood that there was a chance that that could
dissolve that republic if we can keep it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I just don't know how hard we are working to
keep it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
If it's you and I and those who are our
age and perhaps older that understand why it's important to
keep that republic. These young people do not know what
it even means to be in a republic, let alone
resolve to keep it. And that is what concerns me
the most. And we can't expect the schools and the
history books to teach our children the truth about this country.
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It is up to every one of us. We have
got to share that. We have got to drive that
home because if we don't. If we don't, there is
nothing to have a resolve for. There is no Republic
if we don't continue to fight to keep it. And
my God, I hope we can go beyond two hundred
and fifty years. I really don't even know. I really
(24:56):
don't know, but you and I and the others, Rudy,
we've got to keep fighting for that, and we have
to keep educating.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Well, at least we got the Republicans with the majority for.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
The moment, so that's for the moment. Yeah, that's a start.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
But still, when you've got a mindset out there, the
majority mindset is that they are everyone is owed something.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
You are owed nothing.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And I love what doctor with Doctor Carson said. He said,
you know, the only one who can make a success
for themselves is you. The only way to become a
success is that you have you participate in that process
of becoming a success. And then we've they've lost that.
Everybody wants a hand out. Everybody is like, you know,
woe is me? God, I don't know, God help us. Really,
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something significant has to happen in the minds and the
hearts of Americans today. It really does need to happen.
Thank you so much for your call, Rudy. I appreciate it.
We're going to take a break. We'll be back. I
want to talk more about living inside the bout Way.
It's as crazy as you might think it is. It
really is, and yet it does still have some very
bright moments and places to end people. So we'll be
(26:04):
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when we come back after the top of the hour.
I don't know if you guys heard this story over
the weekend, but it says a lot about where we
are as a country right now, and also surprisingly where
our better angels still kind of show up there. Last week,
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a Target employee, her name was Jeannie Beeman. She was
at work just like any other day. She wasn't giving
a speech somewhere, she wasn't protesting, she wasn't bothering anybody.
She was simply wearing a red shirt, which Target allows.
Right but this red shirt red freedom, you know, a
nod to Charlie Kirk turning point USA. Wow, that was
enough because there was a woman who later was identified
(27:12):
as Mikayla Ponce. She's an employee of end Low Health
in Chico, California. She decided to film herself confronting this
Genie while she was on the job. And it wasn't
a disagreement. It was harassment, let me tell you. On camera,
you can see her asking Genie if she's blanking stupid,
calling her a piece of blank, threatening to complain to management,
(27:34):
all because Genie dared to wear a shirt expressing a
view that the left doesn't like. And here's the part
that really matters. Genie never raised her voice, she didn't
insult back. She calmly explained that Target allows red shirts
and she wished the woman a nice day and walk away.
That is what you call grace under fire. But as
you can imagine, that video went viral. Understandably so right.
(27:59):
But here's where this takes a turn the left didn't expect.
Instead of Genie being punished or shamed, I love this,
Americans are rallied around her. A fundraiser was launched called
give Genie from Target a Vacation and the goal was
to give her a chance to step away from the ugliness,
relax and recharge. Guess what, it's probably higher now. I
(28:21):
checked last on Saturday morning. That fundraiser raised over two
hundred and sixty thousand dollars. Then I haven't had a
chance to look now, but I love the support. Said
that the goal increased now to three hundred thousand, with
the organizers joking that maybe they can give her a
vacation and retirement.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
So here you go.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's not canceled culture. That's consequence culture. I love it,
and it's coming from everyday Americans who are tired of
watching decent people like Geenie get attacked because she had
a T shirt on that the left didn't like.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
Augh.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I just love it. You know, let's be clear about
what this story actually shows. It shows that the so
called Party of Tolerance has a real problem with intolerance,
especially when it comes to conservatives or free speech or
working class Americans who don't fall in line. But you
know what, guys, it also shows something else. It shows
decency still resonates, calm still matters, and when someone refuses
(29:18):
to bow to intimidation, people notice. Ganie didn't shout, she
didn't insult, she didn't back down, and America showed up
for her.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's a reminder worth holding on to how we should
all respond not react, you know. And that's something I'm
working on myself. And I'm Italian. Hey, I'm teaching my
grandchild Italian. Hey, I think she's got it. Hey anyway, that's.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Her first word. She's learning in Italian.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
But we should all respond and not react. Gani did
the right thing, bless her heart, and you know what,
Americans rallied around her. And that is such a touching story.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
So there's still some good out there, even if you
think there isn't, there is. Follow me on social media
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praying for you. We'll be back with Ken Pax
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
My name is Rose Shawan is taking a well deserved
time off. I'm so excited about this next guest because
you know, I don't know if you all know this,
but last week she and others gathered at the Pentagon.
It was the first ever Christmas worship service, and joining them,
among others, was Franklin Graham. And I think that's interesting
because one of the things I was thinking about before
(00:24):
preparing for the show and talking to our guests was
that Billy Graham met after World War Two with I
believe every single president after that time, and he did
get a chance, if I remember correctly, to meet with
President Trump before Billy passed away.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I think it was in twenty thirteen. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
All of those presidents, they may not have shared the
same theology, but there were those who understood something larger
than politics was at work, especially if you're holding that office.
And because something larger than politics is at work, for
the first time ever, America has a White House Faith Office,
and the director of that faith office is here with
us today, Jenny Korn.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Thank you, Rose.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
It's so wonderful to be on with you, and Merry
Christmas to everyone listening.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Thank you same to you.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And you know, I am so excited to talk to
you because I did a lot of research on you.
Linda adores you, so I mean that's all I needed
to hear.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Anyway, She's amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I love her.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
She is I do too.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Everyone does so well, not maybe not everyone, but they
don't have good taste.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I think I don't like the way this interview is going.
Let's go back to the first party.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
To go down here for the listeners who might not
be familiar with your role, Jenny, what is the mission
of the White House Faith Office?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Just quickly, if you could, thank.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You Rose, and thank you Linda for having me on,
and for Hannity for having this amazing show, and for
all of you listening. I'm so excited in this new role.
You know, I've been in government and campaigns and politics
and policy for about twenty five years and I would
never thought that my career would beer in this into
this coalition, but has been so amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
For the first time ever.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
If people don't know, the White House has a White
House Faith Office, newly created in a historic now some
of you might say, well, you know, the President's had
like initiatives and offices and other buildings. Yes, but this
is the first time, and that's the credit to President
Trump that there is a White House Faith Office in
the West Wing as a direct report to President Trump
and works directly with Domestic Policy Council on policy. Because
(02:29):
people say, you know, what does the Faith Office do
all day?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Do you pray all day? Which is kind of you know,
of course we do pray a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
You'll be all happy to know that the floor and
those walls have been anointed with oil, and we've had
prayer from so many different people in our office. But truly,
what we're there to do is to give a voice
to people of faith in their federal government, because far
too long, the federal government and really even state and
local have been discriminating against people of faith instead of
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championing people faith. So that's who we are, and that's
the whole reason why you do.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I love that. I love that you said you anointed
with oil. I do that every time I move into
a new home or if someone I care about moves
into a new place or office. It's I think it's significant,
and I love that you're there. It must be really
amazing for you to suddenly find yourself at the White House.
I mean, you've probably never imagined you would be there,
(03:24):
did you.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, this is I will tell you.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
So the answer to that is yes.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But I have been so blessed.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
This is my third time back at the White House.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I was there in two four.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And then did all four years with President Trump. The
first time, I was one of about twelve and I
say I have the bruises to prove it, because that
was a rough and tumble first administration. But you know,
when I was in the office the public Leason, it's
to handle all the coalition's Hispanic women, faith veterans, you
name it. And then came to know Pastor Paula White,
(03:57):
who was President Trump's pastor for twenty five years, and
her and I became very close, started working on the
faith initiative that was there beforehand, got very close, and
then we created what was called National Faith Advisory Board
on the outside during the four years President Trump was
out of office, and so we went to him of
March of twenty twenty four and said, sir, here's this
(04:18):
idea about a faith office. Now we know branding so
we named it President Trump's White House Faith Office. He
loves made a few things, you know, read through it.
It's only four pages. Read through it made the.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Markings of like, okay, let's add this, let's do this.
But you know, it was remarkable. He didn't have to
ask an advisor should he do this.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
He immediately wanted to do this and wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
To bring into the White House. Get Susie on the phone,
we walk her through it too.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Promises made, promises kept. We have this White House Faith
Office since February seventh of this year, and he's very.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Involved with what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
He wants to know how the pastors and rabbis and
all the faith leaders are doing. He wants to know about,
you know, their cases. Some of them have been discriminated,
especially order the Biden administration. And you know what, I
just only because I'm going to forget if I don't
say this. You mentioned Franklin Graham. Reverend Franklin Graham is
a wonderful man and he has been such a great
partner with us. But think about this, going back, Billy Graham,
(05:13):
his father worked with every president, whether they were a
Republican or not. I was welcomed into the White House.
The first time that the Grand family was not invited
to the White House was during the Obama administration and
then the Biden administration. So something is fundamentally going wrong
with the federal government that doesn't you know, who cares
about the politics of it, but doesn't invite people of faith.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
To the White House and really uplift them.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, you're making a distinction because I know that. I
think that Franklin Graham did visit Barack Obama at his home.
I'm pretty sure I remember that. But you're right, where's
the invitation to the White House. So that's significant. And
I have to say, Jenny, in an era where faith
is so often pushed to the margins of public life,
or else it's treated as something private and inconvenient, it's
(05:59):
really nice to see that we have a White House
that still understands what so many presidents once did when
you bring up the previous presidents, that prayer isn't a
weakness in leadership. It and there is a recognition here
and I applaud that, I really do so while we're
on that subject, because religious freedom, I mean, we consider
here in this country religious liberty are America's first freedom.
(06:23):
So where do you see the greatest threats to religious
freedom today? And we can even go beyond this country.
You can start with this country. But I know that
you're also working with Nigerian Christians.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
So I would love for all of your listeners, especially
I know that they're smart and they talk to a
lot of family and friends that when people come at
you with oh, separation of church and state, because we
get that a lot right, and I just remind people
that the separation of church and state means that the
government cannot dictate to you what religion you can be.
(06:57):
It does not mean that people of faith don't have
a in the policies that are directly affecting them. And
that's why saying giving them a voice is a big deal.
We engage thousands of faith leaders. And you talk about prayer,
We pray with the president in the oval office, whether
it's the cameras are on or off, because he welcomes prayer,
and not just from evangelicals, but from every denomination, Catholic, rabbi, emoons.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
You name it.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We make sure that we're there for all people of
faith in this country because we were built on faith.
But if you just look at the Biden administration, you
know when people say, oh, you know why I have
my religious career, I'm fine, I can go to church.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I could pastor, I could do whatever I want.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
We have a problem in this country when twenty three
innocent people who are praying outside of an abortion clinic
silently are put in jail and the President of the
United States has to pardon them. That's what President Trump did.
We have a problem when the IRS, instead of collecting
your money, which we don't like anyway, are watching pastors
(07:59):
sermons to find out if they're going against the Johnson
Amendment in their opinion. And then you meagine you're a
medium sized pastor, you know, a medium sized church, and
you get a letter from the IRS.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
That's really scary.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
We always say the process is the punishment because it
never gets to the Supreme Court on those issues. Because
if it did, and we have plenty of scholars that
will say this, we would win that time and time again.
We have a problem when people who are our heroes
in the military may be seals who are kicked out
of the military under Biden because they would not get
a religious exemption for the COVID vaccine. So all of
(08:32):
these and I can, you know, go fifteen minutes of
the examples of where the federal government discriminated against.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
People of faith.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
But what we're doing is turning that around. We're working
with Department of Justice, working with the State Department, working
Department of War. Basically every department and agency has an
extension of our office with a faith director specifically in
that department and agency to make sure that people's rights
are upheld, their religious rights are of health. And so
(09:00):
we are fixing policy throughout the federal government so that
people have their rights, and so fixing it in the workplace,
whether you want to wear a cross or want to
pray at work, the fact that you can do prayer
in school. So we're all the things that were sort
of turned on their head in the Biden administration. We're
fixing those or trying to codify as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, that's wonderful because when you think about it, here
we are celebrating two hundred and fifty years of liberty.
One of the first things, one of the main reasons
that our founding fathers arrived here was for religious liberty,
and they would be turning in their graves if they
knew that we are actually fighting for that at this
moment in this country.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I mean again, we have to remind people that we
were founded on God, we were founded on faith, and
we were founded on a Christian Christian faith. But we
will Christian because we are a free country. Now, you
did hit on a thing I didn't mention, which is Nigeria.
I just happened to go to Africa in November. We
went to five different countries and meeting with all the presidents,
(10:05):
meeting with space leaders from five different countries, and Nigeria
is so important. And this is what it shows you
the heart of President Trump. He learned and we put
together briefings on it about how many Christians were being
persecuted in Nigeria. And he went and put that post
on his own and then did two subsequent posts about
(10:26):
saying that the killing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
In Nigeria persecuted Christians had to stop.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
And unfortunately, the Nigerian president came out and said, oh,
this isn't happening, that's not why they're being killed. Well,
that didn't sit well with the president, so he came
out again. So working with.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Senator or Secretary of Rubio.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Our office met with their Nigerian delegation and.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
We are working together. I will say the.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Good news is that Nigerian a delegation wants to work
with the US. They say said to us, you know,
our constitution is the most close institution to the United
States Constitution in.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
All of Africa.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And we said that is awesome.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
But our constitution has stayed the same. But yet a
president before that was discriminating against people's faith.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So it really matters who.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
The president is. Your president's going to have to step up.
And then you've got making Minaj coming out of her
you know, celebrity and making us a big deal.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So we are working very hard in.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Nigeria and the good news is that the Nigerian government
is a willing partner to work with us. And you're
going to see a lot of that on the horizon
as more things are are we're able to announce.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, that just does my heart good because for
so many of us, when we hear what's going on
and how those Nigerian Christians have been persecuted, you know,
you wonder what can we do, how can we help?
And we know that our country is helping. It's just
so heartwarming and I'm so pleased to hear that. Thank
you for what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Really and you should you should be everyone should the
two sec Secretary of Rubio, Secretary of Headsets, that President,
the Vice President. Everybody's honest and.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Working towards a solution.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Hard to turn around a problem when it's an Islamic
terrorists and so it's it's not the Nigerian government, right,
it's that they're being overrun, but they continue to allow
that to happen. It's got to make this stop. And
so you know, the president is all about peace deals
and he's wanting to make sure that peace reigns throughout
the world.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Jenny, I you know when we talk about the Chaplain
Corps and Linda said that you're you know that the
Secretary of War's decision to make Chaplain Corps great again.
It really is encouraging to hear because I am reminded.
I'm someone who reads a lot about history and history
of wars. And you know, there's that old saying there
(12:45):
are no atheists in foxholes, but so many times you
will hear stories from men who fought in battle and
thought they were going to die or they were next
to someone who was in fact dying and their first
thoughts actually their first thought of their mother. A lot
of times in books that I've read, I like that,
but also God. So it's great that you're bringing that
(13:07):
back to because that's something that I think is so essential,
especially when you're out there and you're fighting for righteousness
and you're fighting, you know, for to keep America safe.
To know that they have that, that that foundation is
available to them where they serve is remarkable.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's so good.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I mean, it has said since day one when we
met with him, has been all over this. He I mean,
he has really run with this and just brought you know,
they do a Bible study, a worship service every month
for the staff, making you know, really rising up with
the chaplaincy very close to my heart. Hasn't spent twenty
two years in the Marine Corps, and I can tell
(13:45):
you that when he was in combat, boy, prayer was
a big help on our part and their part. And
having a chaplain with them and available to us such
a big deal. And I don't know anybody that would
be against having the child's there because again chaplains are
ecumenical and so whatever faith you are. The chaplain is
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there to pray with you, to help you through things
daily life too, just the marriages between the people in
the military and whether you're in like you said, you're
in combat. The chaplain y program is so important. And
there's some fun that I'll pease out a little bit
that we're going to do for next year with the
chaplain sustinc tuned for that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Oh, that's right, we will be. We'll be anxious to
hear more. Hey, I have to say, Jenny Corn, thank
you so much for what you're doing. And with everything
that's happening and Americans steel discouraged about a lot of
things in the nation's direction. I'm so glad that faith
still plays a restoring hope and all of this. So
God bless you, and thank you so much for what
you're doing.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Thank you so much, Thank you for having me. God
bless you.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Merry Christmas, Verry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
All right, we'll be back with more of Handity after this,
so don't go too far away. We've got lots planned
for you.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You're in love it.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Welcome back to the Sean Handy Show. I'm rose sitting
in for on today, so love being with his audience.
And with everybody in the New York studios. These people
are great to work with. I promised you i'd take
your phone calls, and that's exactly what I'm going to
do right now. The phone number is one eight hundred
ninety four to one Sean, eight hundred nine one Sean.
(15:17):
And I'm going to take Russ because he's come from Pennsylvania.
He's the first one on the list. And Russ, what
in a fascinating story. You can't wait to hear it.
You're from PA. And you know doctor Carson.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yes, I met him forty five years ago when he
operated on my son's neck at Johns Hopkins. I originally
was living in Baltimore, Maryland area.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
No kidding.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And your son was how old at the time, because
he was a pediatrician, he was a surgeon.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Not even about not even two months old.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
No, you're kidding.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
No, I'm not kidding. I pray Wow Arson every day
and thank God for him. He really really say, my son,
I hear.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I have heard that more than once about him and
what he's done for children and the surgeries he's performed.
What an amazing man, What a gifted man. And I'll
tell you something Russ. What I really appreciate about him
is that he did have a hard time when he
was growing up, and he was told by others, you know,
classmates and so forth, that he was stupid.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
He's anything but stupid. He's one of the.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Most brilliant minds, brilliant surgeons that we could ever hope for.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yes, he is. I thank God every day for doctor
Dinah and I pray for.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I'll bet you do, Sweetie. Thank you so much for
that call. I appreciate that. Oh that is so beautiful.
Phil is calling from Michigan. How are you Phil doing well?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
Hey? Before I start, I want to wish you a
very merry and blessed Christmas.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Thank you someme to you and all of you.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I'm sorry you were talking about socialism earlier. You know,
there is nothing stopping every person who advocates for that
from donating everything they can. You got billionaires like Sorrows
who could put you know, money instead of NGOs into
a massive fund and they can dole it out how
they see fit operated as a not for profit and
(17:17):
have their own little socialist paradigm. The reason they don't
do it is because they don't want to donate their money.
They want to donate our.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Money, exactly right. And did you you know that reminds
me of the story too, AOC. I guess, I don't
know if it was last week that made the news
about her campaign finance filings, and it has showed that
about fifty thousand dollars was spent on luxury hotels, high
end dining, and I guess she this rented venue that
she had in Puerto Rico was pretty costly too. And
(17:47):
the reason that this matters Phil is because she has
built her public image not only around anti wealth rhetoric,
but she's been very vocal in her opposition to jentrif cation,
if you will, And she has openly identified as a socialist,
and that's the backdrop. And yet she is the first
(18:08):
one to criticize wealth and the top performers. But at
the same time, she feels very comfortable taking some of
our campaign money and living the high life. And it
just reminds me of the whole you know, socialism for thee,
but not for me. That's her attitude. The contrast couldn't
be clearer. On one hand, she's a politician who condemns
(18:30):
wealth and privilege and excess and on the other her
campaign funds are being used for luxury accommodations.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I mean, come on.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
I played in bands for years and one of my
guitarists was a very, very very devout Democrat and kept
talking about how, you know, Democrats want to help their man,
Republicans are just out for themselves, and I had to
point out to them, Look, between you and Kim, you
have four cars, a pickup truck, you just bought a
new house, and between the two of you make about
(18:58):
one hundred and seventy five thousand a year. Now of
Bill Clinton's magic poverty number I think was around thirty
seven thousand. So until you give away everything above that,
keep your hand out of my pocket.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well said, thank you, Thanks Bill, Merry Christmas, and thanks
for the call.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Jeff is calling from Florida, where it's probably a lot
warmer than where I am right now.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Hi, Jeff, how are you? John?
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Good?
Speaker 6 (19:24):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And very well? Thank you.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
You know, I just want to comment on the left
insistence that the Establishment Clause was about the separation of
church and state. Now, that was a sidebar, but the
primary purpose and theme of the Establishment Clause was to
allow Christians who came to this country to worship in
any manner that they chose. Right, they were chased, They
(19:51):
were chased out of Europe by King James and the
Anglican Church over there. If you know, you know English
for Anglicans, the Spanish, the Spanish and the Italians were Catholics.
The Germans were Lutherans. Well, Lutherans could be Catholics, and
Catholics could be Anglicans, and Anglicans.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Could be Lutherans.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
And there was no worshiping on public streets. So whenever
Bradford came here with settlers seeking religious freedom, the Puritans
were already here. Puritans derived from the word purified to
purify the Anglican Church. So the settlers here wanted to
worship in any way to choose, were being prosecuted, persecuted
(20:32):
by the Anglicans. And that's when Jefferson and Madison decided
that we needed an establishment clause to allow them to
worship in any manner that they chose, or like the
leopard like to say, or not worship at all. Exactly
was the private the primary purpose. And we were founded,
settled and framed by Christians and built on Christian values,
(20:53):
the fifty six Framers were all Christians. You know colleges
in this country Harvard, do you? Oh, yes, it's University
of Virginia.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
William and Mary.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
We're all founded as Christian missionaries for the sole purpose
of educating Christian ministers.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Exactly. You are exactly right. Boy, have we come a
long way, baby, haven't we?
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Yes? And back in the day there were two Christian
services every day in the Capitol building and there were
two Christian ministers appointed and Jefferson, when he was president,
on a regular basis, who'd ride his horse to the
capital to attend that a minister. But not only that.
To this day, that is still a tradition. To this day,
there are two Christian ministers assigned to the Capitol.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Thank you for reminding us of that. And you're absolutely right,
Thank you, jeff Thank you. I appreciate that phone call.
You're absolutely right, and we do forget that because we honestly,
who remembers Ask anyone on the street did you know
that Harvard started out as a Christian institution of education
and they don't know it. I want to jump to
Rudy real quick too in Indiana. Hey, Rudy, thanks for
(22:05):
calling in Merry Christmas.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Really, thanks, thanks for taking my call. Really, if you
look at it, it's not totally the government's fault. The
government lost their resolve and we as citizens have lost
our resolve, and we should also uphold the constitution and
(22:28):
act with resolve. And we've somehow lost our way and
if we could just hang on to it and stand
firmly on it, we could wade our way through all
these troubles.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Well, you know, Rudy, I mean, that's a great point.
Here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
The resolve for what if you you know, young people today,
and that encompasses actually a very large number of younger people.
I'm talking millennials on down. They don't really know what
it is that they have resolved for. What is the constitution?
What does that provide for us? Why is it the
most radical document of all time? Why have no other
(23:05):
governments done exactly what we have done?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know why?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Because it would mean giving up control. And that's why
they don't. But see, they are not taught any of
this in school and public schools are not taught this
in the universities. Our youth, our young people here in
this country do not understand what it is they should
have a resolve for, and that is for liberty. And
(23:30):
it is liberty that lifts all men and women up,
where socialism does just the opposite, It brings everybody down
to a level of misery. They don't understand that. They
don't understand the radical document that the Constitution is and
why it's so radical. It's radical because no other government
would do that. No other government is willing to give
(23:53):
the control to the people. Now we've lost that over time.
We have a republic, doctor Benjamin Frank, but it's holding
on by a thread. Two hundred and fifty years later,
they understood that there was a chance that that could
dissolve that republic if we can keep it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I just don't know how hard we are working to
keep it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
If it's you and I and those who are our
age and perhaps older that understand why it's important to
keep that republic. These young people do not know what
it even means to be in a republic, let alone
resolve to keep it. And that is what concerns me
the most. And we can't expect the schools and the
history books to teach our children the truth about this country.
(24:36):
It is up to every one of us. We have
got to share that. We have got to drive that
home because if we don't. If we don't, there is
nothing to have a resolve for. There is no Republic
if we don't continue to fight to keep it. And
my God, I hope we can go beyond two hundred
and fifty years. I really don't even know. I really
(24:56):
don't know, but you and I and the others, Rudy,
we've got to keep fighting for that, and we have
to keep educating.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Well, at least we got the Republicans with the majority for.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
The moment, so that's for the moment. Yeah, that's a start.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
But still, when you've got a mindset out there, the
majority mindset is that they are everyone is owed something.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
You are owed nothing.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And I love what doctor with Doctor Carson said. He said,
you know, the only one who can make a success
for themselves is you. The only way to become a
success is that you have you participate in that process
of becoming a success. And then we've they've lost that.
Everybody wants a hand out. Everybody is like, you know,
woe is me? God, I don't know, God help us. Really,
(25:41):
something significant has to happen in the minds and the
hearts of Americans today. It really does need to happen.
Thank you so much for your call, Rudy. I appreciate it.
We're going to take a break. We'll be back. I
want to talk more about living inside the bout Way.
It's as crazy as you might think it is. It
really is, and yet it does still have some very
bright moments and places to end people. So we'll be
(26:04):
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when we come back after the top of the hour.
I don't know if you guys heard this story over
the weekend, but it says a lot about where we
are as a country right now, and also surprisingly where
our better angels still kind of show up there. Last week,
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a Target employee, her name was Jeannie Beeman. She was
at work just like any other day. She wasn't giving
a speech somewhere, she wasn't protesting, she wasn't bothering anybody.
She was simply wearing a red shirt, which Target allows.
Right but this red shirt red freedom, you know, a
nod to Charlie Kirk turning point USA. Wow, that was
enough because there was a woman who later was identified
(27:12):
as Mikayla Ponce. She's an employee of end Low Health
in Chico, California. She decided to film herself confronting this
Genie while she was on the job. And it wasn't
a disagreement. It was harassment, let me tell you. On camera,
you can see her asking Genie if she's blanking stupid,
calling her a piece of blank, threatening to complain to management,
(27:34):
all because Genie dared to wear a shirt expressing a
view that the left doesn't like. And here's the part
that really matters. Genie never raised her voice, she didn't
insult back. She calmly explained that Target allows red shirts
and she wished the woman a nice day and walk away.
That is what you call grace under fire. But as
you can imagine, that video went viral. Understandably so right.
(27:59):
But here's where this takes a turn the left didn't expect.
Instead of Genie being punished or shamed, I love this,
Americans are rallied around her. A fundraiser was launched called
give Genie from Target a Vacation and the goal was
to give her a chance to step away from the ugliness,
relax and recharge. Guess what, it's probably higher now. I
(28:21):
checked last on Saturday morning. That fundraiser raised over two
hundred and sixty thousand dollars. Then I haven't had a
chance to look now, but I love the support. Said
that the goal increased now to three hundred thousand, with
the organizers joking that maybe they can give her a
vacation and retirement.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
So here you go.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's not canceled culture. That's consequence culture. I love it,
and it's coming from everyday Americans who are tired of
watching decent people like Geenie get attacked because she had
a T shirt on that the left didn't like.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
Augh.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I just love it. You know, let's be clear about
what this story actually shows. It shows that the so
called Party of Tolerance has a real problem with intolerance,
especially when it comes to conservatives or free speech or
working class Americans who don't fall in line. But you
know what, guys, it also shows something else. It shows
decency still resonates, calm still matters, and when someone refuses
(29:18):
to bow to intimidation, people notice. Ganie didn't shout, she
didn't insult, she didn't back down, and America showed up
for her.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's a reminder worth holding on to how we should
all respond not react, you know. And that's something I'm
working on myself. And I'm Italian. Hey, I'm teaching my
grandchild Italian. Hey, I think she's got it. Hey anyway, that's.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Her first word. She's learning in Italian.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
But we should all respond and not react. Gani did
the right thing, bless her heart, and you know what,
Americans rallied around her. And that is such a touching story.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
So there's still some good out there, even if you
think there isn't, there is. Follow me on social media
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