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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, what explosive hearings in the House Judiciary Committee today
as they had very at times contentious exchanges over whistleblower testimony.
And you know, it's amazing Democrats all of a sudden,
they don't like whistleblowers anymore, they don't trust whistleblowers, They
want punitive actions against whistleblowers. And what these guys are
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saying this is the weaponization hearings run by Jim Jordan.
And they had four specific whistleblowers today, Garrett O'Boyle, special
Agent Steve Friend, who will join us on this program
a little later in the program today, whistleblower former FBI
special Agent Marcus Allen, whistleblower FBI Operations specialist Tristan Levitt,
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a president in Power Oversight, former member of the US
Merit System Protection Board testimony, and more importantly, the methods
under which the FBI took You know, we have whistleblower
law protections in this program in this country. Apparently they
don't matter anymore. They don't seem to matter at all.
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And all the Democrats wanted to do is was grill
FBI agents over a tweet that might show that they
have a political point of view that might not be theirs,
and this is what we have. Anyway, the subcommittee investigating
all of this witnesses saying the FBI is a double
standard for what merits investigation, and one of the agents
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said that the FBI departed from the standard procedures put
a heavy focus on investigating cases involving January sixth, twenty
twenty one. By the way, where are all the arrests
with all the video evidence that we have of the
five hundred and seventy four riots in the summer of
twenty twenty that injured thousands of cops, killed dozens of Americans,
and created billions of dollars in property damage? Where's where
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are those? Where's the intensity from the FBI there? They
also claim that FBI leadership told them to inflate statists
dealing with domestic and violent extremism and now explains a lot.
Explains you know, how they handled Supreme Court justices. It
explain explains how they handled tiger moms like Linda that
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go to school board meetings and dare to question the
age appropriateness of some of the materials being taught their
kids and the priorities of varying school districts. You know,
it's pretty unbelievable. I'll go through some of these whistleblowers.
One guy named Marcus Allen. He said quote, alternative analysis
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and different viewpoints should be welcomed even though they are
not but ultimately acted upon by actual makers. He said,
groupthink should not be an ethos champion in an investigative organization.
To shut down differing viewpoints is the end of any
analytical or investigative body, and it sends a chilling effect
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across the workforce. It does not allow for intellectual freedom,
which is vital any investigative body seeking out truth. It
is possible the ire again towards my perspective, could have
been due to folks wanting to maintain invincible arrogance instead
of consciously mentally transferring over to willful ignorance. My treatment,
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without a doubt, is an FBI whistleblower has sent a
chilling effect through what semblance remains of an analytical cadre.
This was not a thorough investigation. In my regard, I
have not been afforded an opportunity to properly defend myself
or confront claims made against me. Now a light of
the Durham report coming out this week about how Crossfire
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Hurricane never should have ever begun, and then all of
the actions taken and how they treated one candidate, their
favorite candidate, Hillary Clinton, with kid gloves, and they used
the full power might of the FBI and all their
subpoena tools available to them, including lying on PISA applications
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as a means of going after these people. You have
one guy, Garrett Boyle, FBI whistleblower suspended. You know, it's
up to members of this committee, current and former FBI employees,
and indeed all Americans to ensure that the weaponization of
our own government against the people comes to an end,
no matter what the personal cost. And by the way,
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the cost for all of these whistleblowers is that's it.
Their careers are over. Many have been suspended, many have
been put you know, iced out, Many will no longer
have a career in the FBI. He said the safeguards
currently in place that the FBI clearly are inadequate and
must be reworked to protect whistleblowers and others who are
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inappropriately targeted. He says that he was transferred across the
country only to be suspended on his first day. The
FBI's actions forced his family to beg borrow warm codes
for their kids because they're family's belongings were locked in
an FBI controlled storage facility.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So, one of the examples given in congressional letter included
an example where a neighbor or someone or somehow someone
knew a parent that they believed was extreme, and so
they called the FBI and reported that parent to the FBI.
He said, when the citizens in this country get to
a point that they can call the most powerful law
enforcement agency in the world on their neighbor just because
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they disagree with them, that is a chilling. That is
chilling to the First Amendment rights of the people who
are getting the FBI called on them. And then he
had the question, and what you've done is exactly what
the federal law requires you to do, right, And isn't
it true that once the FBI found out you spoke
to Congress, your security clearance was suspended. Yes, I believe
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that's what happened. I'm going to play some of this
testimony later. I'm just telling you some of the highlights here. Now,
question what was the effect, what effect is that this
had on your ability to provide for your young family.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Answer.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I've since had to rely on charity because the FBI
stopped paying me and there's no other way for me
to make a living.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He says.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I know from other whistleblowers that they routinely deny them
the ability to get outside employment, and that as a
special you could only make seventy five hundred dollars a
year outside of your government's salary. So they can't even
live their lives anymore, you know. Another one, Gates played
the video of George Hill, who worked at the Boston
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Field office.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
He alleges that there were confidential human sources and FBI
informants in the Capitol on January sixth. Show us where
inside the capitol. We'll look into it, to which the
Washington Field Office says, well, we can't show you those
videos unless you're tell us the exact time and place
those individuals were inside the capitol, to which they responded back,
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And I was privy to those conversations firsthand.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Why can't you show us?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Why can't you just send us back give us access
to eleven thousand hours of video that's available because there
may be undercover officers or see confidential human sources on
those videos that whose identity we need to protect. Wow,
Steven Friend, he'll be a guest on the show. He's
been suspended, says the FBI retaliated against him after how
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he exposed the bureau was working with numbers on domestic
violent extremist cases. So the FBI decided it was more
important to have you in the parking lot of a
school board meeting than getting worst of the worst of
the worst from people that they could harm. Correct, they
got into the whole January sixth this year too. You know,
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remember we can go back and we covered it on
the show. And by the way, the former Capitol Police
Chief Sun is going to be on at the top
of the next hour. But remember all of the times
that he personally in the days leading up to January sixth,
was requesting the National Guard.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That story never got told. Why not?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Why didn't they listen to the capitol police chiefs. You know,
there's only been ten in total Capitol police chiefs in
the history of this country.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And if the Capitol police chief says that they have
intelligence that indicates that this day may be a problem
and they want to be prepared for it, and he
gets totally, completely and utterly ignored and then basically pushed
out and retired. Or the fact that you know we
have on tape January third, President Trump said it to me.
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His chief of staff, Mark Meadow said it to me.
The Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller said it to me.
His chief of staff Cash Betel said it to me.
That they all talked about on January third, the need
for National Guard troops in coming days leading up to
January sixth, and then of course finally this year in January,
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Lester Holt, I mean a little late, better late than ever,
I guess, but reported that federal law enforcement could have
prevented January sixth because they had actionable intelligence and the
police chief himself talking about the delaying getting the National
Guard to the capitol for help.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Now this do you understand? And then what a Democrats do?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
They start smearing and slandering the whistleblowers. Aren't these the
same people that love whistleblowers. Here say whistleblowers, not here
say whistleblowers. But oh they'll love whistleblowers. Only whistleblowers that
are going after Donald Trump were going after a Republican
because Debbie Wasserman Schultz and others on the committee. But
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it had with Jim Jordan over the testimony of witnesses.
You know, I'm not aware that you're able to withhold
information from the minority that we need to use, she said,
before being cut off by Jordan. When it comes to whistleblowers,
you are not entitled, short and set. There's a pretty
good exchange. We've got some of this on table, play
it later. And then having to remind her and I
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told you that when it comes to whistleblowers, you're not entitled.
It is the discretion of mister Allen, Jordan said, and
the law decides. Did you not listen to the testimony?
I mean, pretty amazing moments that took place here. One
whistleblower details the FBI's attempt to punish him for speaking out.
This is Garrett O'Boyle saying targeted by the FBI and
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their smear campaign made it impossible for him to do
his job, devastated his family financially. I couldn't knowingly and
silently continue on this path without speaking out against all
the weaponization that I witnessed. All I wanted to do
was serve my country by stopping bad guys and protecting
the innocent. And to my chagrin, bad guys have begun
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running parts of the government, making it difficult to continue
to serve this nation. And he says, many in the
FBI see what becomes of whistleblowers. How the FBI destroys
their careers, suspends them under false pretenses, takes their security
clearance and pay with no true options for real recourse
or remedy.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
This is by design.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
It creates an Orwellian atmosphere, and it silences all opposition
and discussion. He said that the bureau's retaliation left his
family destitute. He said, the FBI will crush you. The
government will crush you in your family if you try
to expose the truth about things that they are doing wrong. Wow,
the FBI targeted these pro life groups. They targeted tiger
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moms at school board meetings, you know, in particular, the
Catholics and parents attending these meetings with investigators and investigations
into an effort to impiltrate, you know, with the sense
that they were a domestic terrorism threat. Okay, they're begging
keep your gender identity classes away for my first, second,
and third grader and we think you should focus on reading, writing, math,
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science and arithmetic and computers and not on gender identity,
human section, usuality and CRT. That's what parents by and
large have been saying. Do some get a little heated?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Is this an FBI issue? No, that would be an
issue for local law enforcement if he got out of hand.
Jordan said, if you're a parent attending a school board meeting,
in your pro life, praying at a clinic, or you're
a Catholic simply going to mass, you're a target of
this government, a target of this FBI, adding that officials
attempted to inflate their investigations to treat them as domestic
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and violent extremist cases. Jordan says his committee spoke with
over two dozen whistleblowers in compiling his report. Matt Gates
detailed whistleblower claims of the Washington d C. Field Office
is the source of much of the rot within the organization. Quote,
A lot of the rot the committee has learned emerges
out of the headquarters from the Washington Field office. A
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whistleblower described the conflict that existed at the Washington Field office,
and they put pressure on other field offices around the
country to engage in law enforcement work without predication. Wow,
many agencies. Now it's an Owellian atmosphere that silences opposition. Okay,
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does the do you think anyone cares? The FBI, by
the way illegally obtained we learned today bank records to
search for anybody that attended the January sixth rally. Oh
why follow the rule of law? What about miranda rights?
What about uh? You know, having giving somebody the right
to remain silent, you just now get free access to
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their bank accounts.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Okay, I've been smeared as a malcontent and subpar FBI employee.
This smear stands in start contrasts in my life in
public service. This smear campaign, disgusting as it is, is unsurprising.
Despite our oath to uphold the constitution, too many and
the FBI aren't willing to sacrifice for the hard right
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over the easy wrong. They see what becomes of whistleblowers.
How the FBI destroys their careers, suspends them under false pretenses,
takes their security clearances, and pay with no true options
for real recourse or remedy. This is by design. It
creates an Orwellian atmosphere that silences, opposition and discussion. We
know what is right to do, it would too often
refuse to do what is right because the difficulty in
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suffering it incurs. I couldn't knowingly continue on this path
silently without speaking out against the weaponization I witnessed, even
if it meant losing my job, my career, my livelihood,
my family's home, and now my anonymity. It's up to
members of this committee, current and former FBI employees, and
indeed all Americans to ensure that the weaponization of our
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own government against the people comes to an end, no
matter of the personal cost.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
That was Garrett Boyle him being an FBI I'm sorry,
what's that, Garrett O'Boyle Sorry, oh boy oh Boyle. Anyway,
he was testifying one of the whistleblowers today about the
smear campaign. Well, come back, we have the other news
of the day as well. Hit this hard with others
at the As the show progresses today, one of the
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whistleblowers joins us hi twenty five to the top of
the hour, thank you for being with us. Let me
play for you a cut here of Steve Friend, who's
going to join us later in the program. Now at
the top of the next hour, we have the former
Capitol police chief in January sixth came up a lot
and how those hearings and everything involved in the investigation
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was politicized. Now, this is information that we have told
you repeatedly. And you know, for example, I understand Liz
Cheney and company wanted to get their pound of flesh
on Donald Trump and blame Donald Trump, and we got
plenty of that in all of this, but we also
add other there's a lot more texture context to that
story that nobody ever wanted to talk about. You know,
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if Donald Trump wanted an insurrection, you have to ask
the question, then why was he, according to five people
in the Oval office, you know, days before January sixth,
talking about calling up the guard and having them available
with so many people coming to town. That doesn't make
sense that he would do that. Let me play the
lester Holt report, because you know this was not highlighted
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during the January sixth committee hearings. What did I say
about those hearings? They had a pre determined outcome. Okay,
politically you want to go after Trump. Find here's what
the opportunity though that was missed here. This is a
very important point. The opportunity was we cannot have just
like in the summer of twenty twenty, that we did
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nothing to prosecute, and we have all the videotape evidence
in the world, the five hundred and seventy four people,
or the five hundred and seventy four riots, where we
have video of people involved in you know, hurling rocks
and bottles and molotov cocktails and bricks the police officers.
You know, we have video of people, you know, rummaging
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through and robbing stores and setting him on fire. Those
people have not been held accountable. Or the dozen two
dozen Americans that died in the summer of twenty twenty.
Now there wasn't a committee looking into those riots. But
the sad opportunity that was missed here is that we've
got to make sure something like that never happens again.
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And that means in our cities in the summer of
twenty twenty, and that means our capital. Got to protect
our institutions, You got to protect our elected officials. You
can't have something like that happen ever again. Period end
of sentence. You know, it took NBC News until January
of this year to figure out we had known a
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long time, because you know, again the Capitol police chief,
they never asked for the Capitol police chiefs. They didn't
want his They spoke with him briefly, they minimized his testimony.
He was the one asking for the National Guard in
the days leading up to January sixth and that day
and denied. They didn't look into the head of security
for the House, Nancy Pelosi, her text messages, our emails,
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our phone records. No, they didn't do any of that.
They didn't talk to Muriel Bowser, the mayor of Washington,
DC yan writing she denied Guard troops if anybody wanted
to call them up. Why did all that happen? And then,
of course we learn that in fact, there was actionable
intelligence that had been followed up on with law enforcement
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likely would have prevented this day from ever happening. It's
not me ge for reporting this. This is NBC and
Lester Holt.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Now to our NBC News exclusive. The January sixth Committee's
final report was more than eight hundred pages, but some
material did not make the cut, including much of its
findings on the failures of federal law enforcement leading up
to the attack.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
The Chief investigator of the January sixth Committee says the
government could have prevented it had law enforcement agencies acted
un the available intelligence. Do you believe the attack on
the Capitol could have been successfully repelled?
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Been a lot different had law enforcement taken a more
assertive protective posture. The intel in advance was pretty specific,
and it was enough, in our view, for law enforcement
to have done a better job operationalizing a secure perimeter.
Law enforcement had a very direct role contributing to crely
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the failures, the security failures that led to the violence.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
People familiar with the committee's work tell NBC News members
downplayed that finding because they wanted to keep the focus
on former President Trump. Committee members dispute that haythe would
not discuss internal deliberations. Was this an intelligence failure?
Speaker 7 (19:38):
It was not an intelligence failure.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Patorical breaks the line wait value hathe says.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
The committee found the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security,
and other agencies did not act on the intelligence they had,
including this online threat forwarded to Capitol police January fifth,
calling on thousands to go to Washington and help storm
the Capitol. In a statement to NBC News, the FBI
said had sent all the intelligence had had to the
Capitol Police.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh okay, you don't think that's a big part of
the story. Now, let me tell you what I would
have looked into if I was on that committee. But
of course they kicked off Jim Jordan and Jim Banks
on the committee and replaced him with what Elizabeth Cheney,
Liz Cheney, and I forget the other person, you know,
the other idiot that lost. It's just sad because they
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could have prevented it. Now, Steve Friend was one of
the whistleblowers, so he'll join us later in the program today,
you know, talking about the FBI's campaign of intimidation after
it became a whistleblower, and then talking about the FBI
working against you, the American people, and is in need
of drastic reform.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
In August twenty twenty two, I made protective whistleblower disclosures
to my immediate supervisor, assistant Special Agents in Charge, and
Special Agent in Charge about my concerns regarding January sixth
investigations and signed to my office. I believed our departures
from case management rules established in the FBI's Domestic Investigations
and Operations Guide could have undermined potentially righteous prosecutions and
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may have been part of an effort to inflate the
FBI statistics on domestic extremism. I also voiced concerns that
the FBI's use of SWAT and large scale arrest operations
to apprehend suspects who were accused of non violent crimes
and misdemeanors represented by counsel and who pledged to cooperate
with the federal authorities in the event of criminal charges
created an unnecessary risk to FBI personnel and public safety
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at each level of my chain of command. Leadership caution
that despite my exemplary work performance, whistleblowing placed my otherwise
bright future with the FBI at risk. Special agents taken
oath to protect the US Constitution. The dangers of federal
law enforcement overreach were hammered home to me when I
was required to attend trainings at the Holocaust Memorial Museum
and MLK Memorial. I cited my oath and training in
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my conversations with my FBI supervisors. Nevertheless, the FBI weaponized
the security clearance processes to facilitate my removal from active
duty within one month of my disclosures. In addition to
an indefinite unpaid suspension, the FBI initiated a campaign of
humiliation and intimidation to punish and pressure me to resign.
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In violation of hip hop individuals at the FBI leaked
my private medical information to a reporter at The New
York Times in violation of the Privacy Act. The FBI
refused to furnish my training records for several months. To date,
they only provide a portion of the records, which are
essential to obtaining private investigator and fire armp licenses in
the state of Florida. Even after releasing some of the records,
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the FBI refuses to confirm their legitimacy to the Florida
Department of Agriculture, rendering them few documents they have provided
practically useless. The FBI denied my request to seek outside
employment in an obvious attempt to deprive me of the
ability to support my family. Finally, the FBI Inspection Division
imposed an a legal gag order in an attempt to
prevent me from communicating with my family attorneys. The FBI
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is incentivized to work against the American people and in
dire need of drastic reform, particularly in these areas. The
integrated program management system incentivizes the use of inappropriate investigatory
processes and tools to achieve arbitrary statistical accomplishments. Mission creep
within the National Security Branch has refocused counter terrorism from
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legitimate foreign actors to political opponents within our borders. The
FBI weaponizes process crimes and reinterprets laws to initiate pretectual
prosecutions and persecute its political enemies. Euerintelligence analysis capability increasingly
dictates operations, turning the FBI into an intelligence agency with
a law enforcement capability. FBI collusion with big tech to
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gather intelligence on Americans, censor political speech, and target citizens
for malicious prosecution.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
A dysfunctional promotion.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Process fosters a revolving door of inexperienced, ambitious FBI supervisors
ascending the management ladder within the agency. FBI informant protocols
that are broken and abusive. The FBI skirts the Whistleblower
Protection Act and exploits the security clearance revocation process to
expel employees who make legally protected disclosures.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I mean, this is devastating. This is what we've been
telling you how the FBI has been politicized. It has
been weaponized. The DOJ has been politicized. It has been weaponized.
Let's go to another FBI whistleblower, this one Marcus Allen,
saying he's been retaliated against by having his security clearance revoked.
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FBI claims he's being disloyal because of his January sixth views. Now,
by the way, then, he says, the FBI retaliated against
him aftery file to complain against them.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Listen, as the.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Holder of a top secret security clearance since two thousand
and one, I've been trusted with the nation's greatest secrets.
So why am I here today? Despite my history of
unblemish service to the United States, the FBI suspended my
security clearance, accusing me of actually being disloyal to my country.
This outrageous and insulting accusation is based on unsubstantiated accusations
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that I hold conspiratorial views regarding the events of January sixth,
twenty twenty one, and that I allegedly sympathized with criminal conduct.
I do not. I was not in Washington, d C.
On January sixth, played no part in the events of
January sixth, and I condemn all criminal activity that occurred. Instead,
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it appears that I was retaliated against because I forded
information in my superiors and others that questioned the official
narrative of the events of January six. As a result,
I was accused of promoting conspiratorial views and unreliable information.
Because I did this, the FBI questioned my allegiance to
the United States. Throughout this ordeal, I and my counsel
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have responded quickly, whereas the FBI has only stonewalled. I
have filed a federal civil rights losssuit which is pending,
seeking to recover my livelihood and restore my good name. Recently,
my council filed a whistleblower complaint with the Justice Department's
Office of Inspector General. The complaint set forth retaliation through
misuse of the security clearance process, as well as reprisal
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against me for making a protected disclosure. Interestingly enough, in
the wake of the filing the complaint. In the wake
of filing the complaint, I received correspondence from the FBI
indicating that my clearance had now been formally revoked. This
occurred after filing my complaint with the IG. The new
and baseless claims made in the letter had never been
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brought up prior to the issuance of the security clearance
revocation letter. I have never had the opportunity to defend myself.
I only had one interview with the FBI, which occurred
a year ago after apparent prompting from Congress. In that interview,
the investigators towards the end of the interview uttered in
response to my exasperation, don't sue us?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes, let me play one more cut of one of
the was that same whistleblower, Marcus Allen. He's testifying to
Matt Gates that the FBI retaliated against him because he
thought Director Ray was lying to the Senate in testimony
regarding January sixth.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
And mister Allen, is it your belief that you were
retaliated against because you shared an email that questioned the
truthfulness of FBI Director Christopher Ray, Yes, sir, And you
believed that he wasn't truthful based on testimony he'd given
to the United States Senate. Isn't that right?
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 9 (27:36):
And in that testimony to the Senate, you believe that
Christopher Ray indicated that there were no confidential informants and
no FBI assets that were present at the Capitol on
January sixth, that were part of the violent riot in
that right, Yes, sir, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I mean, what else do you need to know? Your
FBI has now been weaponized, it's now sized, it now
has a political agenda, I mean, and and that's you know,
these are It's not a guess anymore. We're not guessing here,
you know, these whistleblowers testifying with the Select sub Subcommittee
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on the weaponization of our federal government. It has been weaponized,
and now we are paying a price for it, and
nothing seems to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Now, the Republicans rightly have gotten to the point where
they only see one solution, and that is they're going
to have to use the power of the purse not
to defund dismantle the FBI, but restructure the FBI, reorganize
the FBI put you know, get its focus back on
the purpose of law enforcement. Uh and and not you know,
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being involved in presidential elections the way they have for
two presidential elections. Uh or or having an agenda that
only fits one party but not another, you know, or
their priorities. Really we're going to go after let's see
you know, tiger moms that speak out at like Linda,
that speak out at school board meetings, And we're going
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to go after you know, churches because of their pro
life views and pro life centers, because that's what the
testimony has been. That's what we've now learned about this FBI.
This is not the same FBI that it was five
years ago or even ten years ago. And the fact
is they've gotten away with it with impunity. They literally
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put their cinder blocks on the scales of the twenty
sixteen election, and they did it again in the twenty
twenty election. Really, you had Hunter Biden's laptop in December
of twenty nineteen, eleven months before the November twenty twenty election.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Okay, how long.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Would it take the FBI to authenticate that?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Not long.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
They have very sophisticated computer analysts that can figure this
stuff out, you know, in he split, no time at all.
You know what about the case of the you know
now they're telling big tech all be on the lookout.
You may be the victim of a misinformation campaign. By
the way, Twitter, here's three and a half million dollars.
Why are we giving three and a half million taxpayer?
FBI dollars to Twitter. How much do they give other
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big tech companies? And then the laptop story that they
knew was real comes out, but they had already pre
bunked it. They've been telling the big tech companies all
they might be, you know, misinformation about Hunter or about
Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Got to be on the lookout for that.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
So you're not a victim of misinformation, all right, because
January sixth came up so often today in these hearings
and the weaponization of our Justice Department and DJ and
uh Man. This was devastating. These these you know, these
people that are whistleblowers, putting everything on the line, and
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what happens. They get penalized, they get punished, they get ostracized,
they lose their jobs, their pensions, and it just their
entire career blows up.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
But they put it all on the line. Today.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Now on the issue of January sixth, we're going to
talk with the former Capitol police chief's son.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
He'll join us next.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Then one of the whistleblowers that testified today will join
us as well. Eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn
or number if you want to be a part of
the program.