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August 7, 2025 28 mins

Sean Hannity opens the show with a passionate breakdown of the Democrats’ mastery of gerrymandering and the hypocrisy surrounding redistricting battles. He explores the constitutional implications of President Trump’s proposed mid-decade census that excludes illegal immigrants and how that could shift congressional representation. Sean also reacts to James Carville’s call for court-packing and D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood. The hour ends with a scathing critique of Howard Stern's political transformation, triggering questions about authenticity, celebrity elitism, and betrayal of the working class.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, Thank you, Scott Shannon, Thanks to all of
you for being with us. Right down our toll free
telephone number if you want to be a part of
the program as eight hundred and ninety four one Sean
if you want to join us. I am so furious
that people are not understanding what jerry mandering is, how
Democrats have mastered the art of it, how they have

(00:23):
plotted for it, they have designed it, they have mastered it.
I keep going over these numbers. I keep explaining, Republicans
have been shut out, shut down. It has been something
that blue states have gotten away with forever, and for
whatever reason, Democrats are still out there trying to act

(00:43):
as though they are a victim and that they're going
to fight back with fire, fighting fire with fire. The
only problem is there's no more jerry mandering available in
most of the states that we're talking about. They keep
talking about fighting fire with fire. The funniest one of
all was the governor of Massachusetts, We're going to fight

(01:05):
fire with fire. We haven't had a single Republican congressional
seat since the nineties. In Massachusetts. The Republicans get forty
percent of the vote. In Connecticut, not a single seat
that they got there either. And if you look at
New York, if you look at New Jersey, if you
look at Illinois, which is probably the most jerry manderate

(01:27):
of them all, you look at California, Democrats have mastered
the art of all of this, and the idea that
somehow this is a threat to democracy is ridiculous. Now,
there's one other part of this equation that nobody really
wants to spend a lot of time talking about, and
we will, and we'll get into it in great specificity.
We have Texas Governor Greg Abbott who's come under fire

(01:50):
for this. But all Greg Abbott is doing is exactly
what has been done in every other blue state and
has been up these standards that have been written by them,
the rules written by them, applied only, you know, only
to benefit them. And one little thing that most people
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
No, we have.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Discussed it in the past, probably not enough, But the
President now has directed the Department of Commerce to launch
preparations for a quote highly accurate national census. According to
his post on truth Social and the President said the
count would reflect current information, incorporate data from the twenty

(02:30):
twenty four presidential election, and explicitly exclude individuals that reside
illegally in the US. I have instructed our Department of
Commerce to immediately begin work on a new and highly
accurate census based on modern day facts and figures, and importantly,
using the results and information gain from the presidential election

(02:54):
of twenty twenty four. People who are in our country
illegally will not be counted in the sense. Thank you
for your attention to this matter. Under the US Constitution
and Census Acted, the Census Bureau is required to conduct
account every ten years of every resident of the country,
regardless of citizenship or legal status. Well, that's not an

(03:17):
accurate reading, because most of these people that are here illegally,
by the very nature of the fact that they broke
the law, they don't respect our laws, border sovereignty. They
don't belong here anyway. The next one is not doue
until twenty thirty. Trump did not make clear if he
is referring to the regularly scheduled population count or a
special survey undertaken earlier. But the census is used to

(03:41):
determine how many members of Congress are elected from each state.
Pew Research Center estimates that, for example, ignoring unauthorized illegal
immigrants in twenty twenty would have deprived California, Florida, and
Texas of one House seat each. And I don't care
that California is a blue state, but if it would

(04:02):
have deprived them a seat, that is fundamentally unfair and
it's not in keeping with the statutory language that is
very clear and unambiguous. It's also used for apportioning votes
in the state by state electoral college that decides presidential elections.
I mean, here's the thing. Do you want free and
fair elections? Do you want integrity in your election system?

(04:24):
Now we haven't spoken a lot about it since before
the twenty twenty four election, but it is something we
need to pay attention to and we need to put
in place while we have a chance. Election integrity measures
basic fundamental measures, you know, for example of photo IDs,
signature verification, if you have mailim ballots, chain of custody controls,

(04:49):
meaning we should have on tape from the moment any
ballots are delivered, they should be put in a room
with a camera that can be monitored by the citizenry
twenty four to seven so that nobody can you know,
no monkey business can take place as they say, in
other words, no Shenanigans can take place, and that adds

(05:10):
integrity to the system. We need updated voter rolls. You
don't need illegal immigrants voting in either local or state elections.
Has been proposed by Democrats that we've talked about in
the past. Also anyway, so the first redistricting lawsuits have
been found by this Democratic group. But you know, all
of this is on their watch. This is what the

(05:31):
Democrats themselves have wanted. Now we're going to spend time
on this today with Governor Abbott and with with Jim
McLaughlin and John McLaughlin and hopefully we'll get to the
bottom of it. And you know, it gets to the
heart of you know, do we want free and fair elections?
Do you want integrity in your election system? Now, where

(05:53):
this goes off the rails is the reaction of Democrats.
And what do we say before the election. We said
before the election the Democrats, if they get their way,
watch out what they are capable of doing, because these
are opinions that they have expressed openly. Now, James Carvill
again applying a double standard when it comes to the

(06:14):
issue of districting and jerrymandering, is saying out loud that
which Democrats many secretly have hoped for for a long time,
and that is statehood for Puerto Rico and the District
of Columbia. What would that do in the minds of Democrats?
That would give them four Senate seats, power and perpetuity,

(06:36):
which is the only reason why they'd ever want to
do it. One of the reasons I didn't agree with
President Trump on Canada be in the fifty first state
because we'd probably add two Democratic Senate seats coming. That's
just my guess. Anyway, he says, let's play carvill and
what he would like Democrats to do, because Republicans are

(06:56):
now doing that which Democrats taught them to do.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Democrats win the presidency, the Senate, in the House in
twenty twenty eight, which is not impossible. I don't know
if you say likely or possible, I don't know what
word you know, but it's certainly not impossible. They are
just going to have to be litteredly at Puerto Rican
industry of Columbia states. They're going to have to the
Congress does give the Constitution gives Congress power over federal elections.

(07:22):
I don't think they're going to read district. But they
there things they go do. They're going to have to
do it. They're just going to have to do it,
and they may have to expand the court to thirteen members.
Any of those things in isolation, I would be skeptical about.
I would be cautious about. I would say, well, I
don't know if that's the greatest idea in the world.
If you're opening Pandora's box or all kinds of things.

(07:46):
If you want to save democracy, I think you've got
to do all of those things, because we're just moving
further and further away from being anything closer to democracy.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
The funny thing is that ironic thing is a paradox
here is that if you listen to Democrats, they ran
on this idea that if Donald Trump won, well you're
electing number one a racist, a Nazi, a fascist. You're
electing Stalin and Hitler and Mussolini. And that was pretty

(08:19):
much the closing arguments because they didn't really want to
run on the fact that they like high gas prices.
They want to tell you how to live your life.
They want to tell you what cars you can drive,
They want to tell you what air conditioners you can use,
or if you can't use them, And the same with
the refrigerators and freezers, etc. And what straws you can
drink out of. They wanted to raise taxes. Democrats just

(08:44):
voted for the largest tax increase in history by voting
against the largest tax cut in history, and they don't care.
Democrats claim to be the party of working men and women,
but they just voted against cutting taxes on tips and
overtime and social security for old people. That's where their

(09:04):
vote is. But this is very insightful in terms of,
you know, a real threat to democracy and when you
couple what Carvil is saying here, and I'm sure this
opinion is shared by many Democrats, maybe not expressed as
openly as he is, that this is something that they
have They have periodically discussed and brought up, and I

(09:28):
brought up many times during the election that this was
a possibility. You better pay attention to it because I
know that that's where the Democrats would want to go.
And now that you see the real Democratic party emerging.
In other words, things that Democrats would always believe but
they kind of hide they they they would masquerade around

(09:48):
and kind of you know, talk around the fringes of it.
But now it's just white out. You know, it's right
out in the open. Now you've got Marxist mum donni,
you know, guy can and condemn global Antifada. The guy
that wants to put higher taxes in rich whder neighborhoods,
tax people according to their race. This is the guy

(10:10):
that wants to defund dismantle the police. This is a
guy that wants to send in social workers even for
domestic disputes or people that are potentially violent in the
subways or in Times Square. You know, then you've got
other people. You got this guy Fata in Minneapolis, I mean,
the Democratic Party in Minneapolis now willing to go against

(10:33):
an incumbent mayor to elect this radical like mom Donnie,
who've gone through his track record before. Then you've got AOC,
You've got the squad, you got Jasmine Crockett, You've got
Grandpa Bernie, You've got Pocahontas. They are the modern extreme

(10:54):
Democratic Party. Do you doubt that these people have given
power in Washington? Do you doubt that they would not
try to pack the courts, the Supreme Court with liberal justices.
Do you doubt that they would not act unilaterally? To
add Puerto Rico and DC and declare statehood for both

(11:16):
of them so they could gain four Senate seats so
that they can keep power and perpetuity. Do you doubt
that this party would not institutionalize wokeism. I mean, Kamala
Harris openly believed in taxpayer funded sex change operations. Her

(11:38):
running mate believed in free college tuition for illegals. Kamala
wanted a taxpayer funded sex change operations for illegals and
for convicts. Tim Walls wanted to put feminine hygiene products
in grade school boys bathrooms. He wanted gender affirming care

(11:58):
for minors without parental consent, and the same thing is
being expressed by other prominent Democrats around the country. You know,
this is Kamala Harris that said that the high cost
of energy, which went so much higher under Biden Harris
and their administration, was the cost of democracy, all because

(12:20):
they were pursuing this radical green new deal, which is
very reflective and very similar to Mamdanni, which is the
womb to the tomb, cradle to grave society where you're
going to have government provided let's see daycare and childcare
and government provided preschool in kindergarten and government provided healthcare,

(12:42):
And how's that working out for you? Obamacare? None of
those promises were kept. Then they want to tax the rich.
Billionaires shouldn't exist, Mamdani says, not only tax the rich,
but then they're going to have you government guaranteed job,
government guaranteed healthy foodment guaranteed retirement, government guaranteed at pretty

(13:04):
much everything. Well, are they going to get the money
to pay for this? And what has government done up
to this point? Who somehow enhance your confidence in their
ability to accomplish anything short of the military. They've screwed
everything up, Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, they're all on the

(13:25):
verge of insolvency and bankruptcy. Now it's going to be
saved because of changes that are being made and reducing
the rate of growth. Is not going to be any
cuts in spite of the lies Democrats are telling. How
is your local school system doing, especially if you're in
a liberal city or a liberal town. You know, we
pay more per capita for education for kids, we have

(13:47):
the worst results. What does government do so well? Now
that you want to give them more power, you want
to give them more control, because I don't care what
the hell you call it. If you want to call
it socialist, redistributionism, statism, marxism, communism, doesn't matter what name
you apply to it. It always ends the same, broken promises,

(14:09):
more poverty and a loss of your personal freedoms, which
you can calculate, you know, at some point down the
road when you realize you suckered into nothing but a
big lie and that this was a power grab for
them because they want control of every aspect of your life.
You know, if it's that's the choice between false security

(14:31):
or freedom in life, Linda, I know this will impact
you if you grew up and you grew up in Philly,
and Howard Stern was on in Philly, But if you
grew up in New York, as I did, it was
like everybody would listen to Howard Stern and don Imus.
Also don Imus was big and they both hated each other,

(14:53):
which kind of made it even more interesting at the time.
And story out today and I think they're denying it.
But as of now that he his future is uncertain
as Serious exem according to multiple reports and anyway, and
he could exit Serious ExM after a twenty year run

(15:16):
when his contract expires. According to the US Sun later
this year, and according to sources now, Stern's contract is
up in the fall, and Sirius apparently he's planning to
make him an offer, but they don't intend for him
to take it because he's making he had been making
an astronomical amount of money. And anyway, it's so disappointing.

(15:39):
Do you remember when I interviewed Stern on radio? I
think he was here for like an hour, two hours,
was in studio. I mean, that was the old Howard Stern.
He was fun, he was lively, he was entertaining, you know,
and then he also has this other side of him,
which is neurotic as hell but funny as hell. And

(16:00):
you know, I remember questioning him and asking him, you
have more money than you ever dreamed of in your life,
more money than you can spend in a lifetime. And
I read that every day. And this was at the time.
I don't think he does this now. Every day you
go home from work and you go to your basement,
you smoke weed and you watch TV. And then you

(16:21):
spend like four days a week going to a shrink
And I'm like, what the hell is going on here?
You should be happy out and enjoying your life, and
he goes, I know, I know, I know, So I
don't really know. Maybe whatever trauma that he might have
experienced as a kid made him a great radio host,
but there's no disputing that he was a great radio host,

(16:44):
and he was often brutal to people. Then Howard changed,
and when he changed, he changed big time. And what's
happened is there's every single person that I know and
I grew up with that listen to him growing up.

(17:04):
None of them listen to him anymore. None of them
really care about him anymore. None of them can understand
what the hell happened to him. I mean, let's listen
to what he says about Donald Trump, but more importantly,
what he says about Donald Trump voters.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
The oddity in all of this is the people Trump
despises most love him the most. Go look at mar Lagos.
See if there's any people that look like you. I'm
talking to you in the audience that the Trump voter
who idolizes the guy he despises you. I don't hate
Donald Donald's doing his thing. I hate you for voting

(17:43):
for him, for not having an intelligence, not aman to
see what's going on with the coronavirus, not able to
see what the Justice Department is doing. I hate you.
I don't want you.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Here, don't I don't agree with Trump politically. I don't
think you should go anywhere near the White House. I
don't hate the guy. I hate the people who vote
for him. I hate that they're stupid. I'll be honest
with you, I have no respect for you. He said
all of this on his own show. Now, if you

(18:17):
go back and you look at the people that really
liked Howard back in the day, they were the blue
collar construction workers. They were the taxi drivers back in
the day.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
They were the people that would, you know, make the
trek to work, and and those are the people that
are benefiting the most under Trump policies. The old Howard
Stern would have loved Donald Trump as president. The old
I don't know what happened. It's like it's like invasion
of the body snatchers. It's inexplicable to me. And this

(18:53):
has now been building for a long period of time.
When Hillary Clinton was running, he sucked up to Hillary Clinton,
didn't give her a real interview, did the same thing
with Kamala Harris in the more recent election and was
kissing up to him. I remember one day tuning in
and hearing him, you know, loving Leonard Dunham or Dunno,

(19:13):
whatever her name is, you know, the person that I'm
talking about, And I'm like, oh my gosh, what happened
to him? I mean, that's the question. Why would you
insult the very people that helped create all of this
success and insult their intelligence intelligence. Look, if Howard wants

(19:36):
to be a liberal, he can be a liberal. If
he wants to support Hillary, he can support Hillary. If
he wants to hide in his basement because he's scared
to death of the coronavirus and lecture people how dumb
they are not to take that stupid shot. I mean,
is Howard ever addressed the fact that the government lied in,

(19:59):
the government misled people, and the government had made promises
about the COVID vaccine that if you get the shot,
you're not going to get COVID. If you get the shot,
you're not going to infect other people. Apparently went into hibernation.
I know somebody that lives near him was in hibernation
for three long years because he was so scared to

(20:21):
death of getting COVID, and that eventually got it anyway,
talked about it and didn't regret taking the shot. A
lot of good that shot did him, and the promises
that were made to him that you know, why isn't
he mad at the government? And then he actually is
comparing Trump to Hitler, his rhetoric to Hitler. And I'm

(20:43):
just bewildered by the whole thing. I don't know what happened.
You know when things started, when signs began to show,
is you'd read on like page six, or you'd read
in one of the New York papers that he was
hanging out in the Hamptons. That was a bad sign.
I've been to the Hampton. I don't like the Hamptons.
I don't like the people in the Hamptons. I don't
want anything to do with them. And that he was

(21:05):
going to polo matches, and then he started kissing up
to liberal politicians. And then he started like becoming the
crazy cat lady down the street and has this large
collection of cats, which you might sympathize with because you
love cats, even though you overfeed them and they become
so heavy they have to go to the cat fat
farm to get skinny, which you did because your cat

(21:29):
became four times the size of what a real cat
should be.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
I think any cats forced to live with Howard Stern,
I feel very sorry for ouch.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
That's mean.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Yeah, he deserves it. He's scum.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Wow, there real anger here.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Oh yeah, I don't like him. The way he talked
about people. You know what, I was not about it.
I never supported all that covid crap. I'm not going
to go into it right now because it would take
me five hours to talk about how I feel. But
you know this whole thing about you know, my body,
my choice and all this BS. You know, he forgot
where he came from. He really did. And he, let

(22:06):
me tell you something, God put his hand on him
and gave him a lot of opportunity that he sure
as hell did not deserve. And then he's going to
turn around and when he gets on America's got talent,
he gets all woke as a joke and now, oh,
I can't do this, and I can't. You know what,
Just stay in your house and hide in your mask
and live in your sye off. Like I'm done. I'm
done with your BS, I'm done with your comments. Nobody

(22:27):
cares the reason that your show is not being renewed
is because you suck, and it's you've sucked for quite
a while actually, and we've.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Had just gone on a long time. It's just I mean,
it's been it's been over a decade. It's like, as
I said, Invasion of the Body Snappers. Let me play
the cut of him, he says to me, the opposite
of woke as being asleep. And if woke means I
can't get behind Trump, which is what I think it means,
or that I support people who want to be transgender,

(22:56):
or I'm for the vaccine, dude, call me, uh woke
as as much as you effing want, he said. The
problem is nobody really cares if adults make decisions about
being transgender. I knew, I know, Caitlyn Jenner, I have

(23:17):
to interrupt you.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
We care if our taxpayer dollars or used to fund it.
I don't give a riple do with your own mind.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Oh we care about that too, But we also care
about whether or not, like in the case of Tim Walls,
who I guess he voted for, is willing to give
gender affirming care unlike other states too, young adult young
people without parental consent. That part I have a big

(23:43):
problem with the not your children. We don't hand our
children over to the government. You know, if he wants
to take the COVID vaccine, take the COVID vaccine. You
want to believe the big lie. You know, believe the
big lie. You still got COVID even though you were
hiding out for three years. But if but is not defined,
then he went on about the whole bud bud Light controversy,

(24:06):
and he said, you know that if woke means not
being mad at bud Light for partnering with Dylan mulvainy
or getting the COVID vaccine, or supporting gay rights along
with programs like Social Security, medicare what bothers me. In
part of that statement, he doesn't understand what conservatism really is,
You know, conservatism. I never told people what to do

(24:30):
in terms of getting the shot or not getting the shot.
I said, take it seriously, talk to your doctor. I
don't know a damn thing about your medical condition, whether
you have comorbidities, pre existing conditions, I said, but make it.
Make an informed choice and understand that there are people
out there that are very worried about an experimental vaccine

(24:52):
that they'd never used. Before using mRNA technology.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
How does a guy who used to watch models vibrate
on base speakers get off telling anybody about elections, politics
or vaccines. Why don't you take the Michael Jordan route
and be a DJ, a radio talk show host that
talks about culture, pop culture and things of that nature,

(25:17):
and do that and stay in your wheelhouse. Because Michael
Jordan was very smart. He said, I don't talk about politics.
I make sneakers, I play sports. And you know what,
people from both sides of the island, all walks of life,
they wear sneakers, they buy sneakers, they watch sports, they
buy tickets to watch sports. Thank you very much and
good night.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
That was has false impressions because conservatives like me support
choice on issues involving personal health. Conservatives like me, you know,
I don't care what adults how they choose to live
their life. The bud Light controversy is bud Light not

(25:53):
knowing who their audience is and the fact that people,
you know, Dylan Mulvainy never rank bud Light. That was
the most ironic part of that whole story. And Republicans
and conservatives are not against maybe some are, but they're
not against gay rights. They're just they don't want their
kids indoctrinated in school and a value system, especially when

(26:17):
kids can't read, write through math, science and don't know
any history. And if you listen to Donald Trump, he said, no,
we're going to We're going to save social Security and
Medicare and Medicaid. Rather, I don't know, but.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Stephen Colbert in twenty fifteen, Howard Stern was singing Trump's praises.
It just became, you know, not so cool to do
it because some other people said, Hey, that's not cool.
Don't do that. Listen to this.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
You couldn't actually be the president.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
Yeah, the country is doing very poorly, and we will
make the country do well.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Do you really want to be president?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Because I look at your life, especially what's going on
down in Bralago and stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Now to step down like the White House is a
horrible place to live compared to your mar A Lago. Seriously,
won't get Robin Howard's been saying this to me for
two years. I know you already lived the life. Yeah,
you're not gonna be impressed with it. And so the
fact that you want to be president it means you
actually might want to do something. Yeah, that's very true.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
It's not gonna happen to me.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Could you if you see a little inkling of it?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Robin, the two of you immediately called me. You around, Yeah,
listen back. But no, I've seen it so often.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
And I see people I support people, and they're these
great people, men, women, and then they get to Washington
and they I guess they look up at these beautiful
buildings and they get medatar I am, and yeah, they're
afraid to do anything.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
What are you going to do day one? Let's say
you pull this off and you become president day what
you know what I'm gonna do about President?

Speaker 6 (27:48):
I'm gonna do a great job. That's what I'm gonna
There's so many things we're gonna do, but we're gonna
do it.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I'm gonna stop this. We're coming up on the constraints
and time here. But look what he's done for working
men and women. No tax on tips over time, so security,
largest tax increase in history. He's he's controlled our borders
so unvetted illegals, including terrorists, murderers, rapist, gang members, and
cartel members and drug dealers can't get in the country.

(28:13):
He's moving US towards energy dominance, which means that's going
to create a lot of high paying career jobs thirteen
trillion dollars or I'm sorry, fifteen trillion dollars in committed
moneys for manufacturing, which is going to help working men
and women. How did this guy get so far away
from who he once was? Or maybe he always was

(28:33):
this person and he just hit it and played a game,
but now it's like serious for him. Here's the problem.
I don't think any of his old audience is going
to give a flying rip that he's leaving radio if
he leaves radio eight hundred ninety four to one shown,
especially when you're insulting people the way, kind of like

(28:54):
Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel's another jackass.

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