May 13, 2025 • 31 mins
Newt Gingrich, Former Speaker of the House and author of the upcoming book, Trump’s Triumph, discusses President Trump’s trip to the Middle East.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, thanks Scott Shan In our two Sean Hannity
Show toll free it is eight hundred and nine point
one Shawn, if you want to be a part of
the program, as we come to you, we are in Riad.
We are in Saudi Arabia, undisclosed location. As for security
now I'm kidding anyway, Thank you for being with us.
It's been an amazing trip, as I went over in
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the last hour. Then, of course we have the big issue,
the last American released hostage that has been released from Israel,
and this trip, which I think is historic to Saudi Arabia,
Qatar tomorrow and the UAE and Abu Dhabi, and we
will be on every leg of that trip. Mister speaker,
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we talk a lot about transformational and consequential. Every one
of these issues is transformational and consequential. And I forgot
to mention that we expect Putin and Zelenski to be
meeting on Thursday of this week.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, and meanwhile, back at home, the House is steadily
moving forward on that gigantic budget bill that really is
at the heart of Trump's economic plan. So you have
a lot of different moving parts. I think the most
fascinating thing I'm going to write about this for The
New York Sun later on this week. Is the center
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trip by a president which is focused, frankly a lot
more on economics than on geopolitics. I mean, I think
his goal and part is going to be to get
huge investments in the United States, made some very big
sales for American companies, and significantly improved the American economy.
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That is an enormous shift from the way presidents from
nineteen thirty nine on went around the world. Historically we
were so wealthy and so big. They go around the
world giving away things and focusing virtually everything on geopolitics
and nothing on economics. This is going to be exact opposite,
And of course he he today. I thought, very boldly,
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here's a little surprise they did it, called on Saudi
Arabia to recognize Israel. Now, you know, he is a
very good relationship with the royal family, and I think
thrilled that for the second time visiting Saudi Arabia is
the beginning of his foreign travels as it was in
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twenty seventeen. But it's also in terms of publicly just
coming right out, I think probably was a little bit
startling to them that he was so strong and so
clear that he wants them to recognize Israel, which I
think is a big step in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The untold story of his first term, or one of
the untold stories of his first term was and it's
a little secret, and a lot of these countries are
too vulnerable to the military mic that is the Iranians,
so they don't take them on directly. And I'm not
I'm not putting aside. I'm not casting aside past sins,
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the past past associations, any of that, and I think
that does need to be discussed and pointed out. But
there was an achievement in his first term where the
United States, Israel, Jordanians, Egyptians, Emirates, the Saudis all united
together and we're sharing intelligence. And they had one goal.
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It was against Iranian hegemony in the region. And now
there is an urgency to ensure that, in fact, the
Iranians don't get a nuclear weapon. Now I have my
interview tonight, but it's going to be part one. I
asked the President directly about this question or layered either
tonight or tomorrow, and I will tell you that the
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President is steadfast. They're not getting a weapon, mister speaker,
and I've known him thirty years. If he says it,
I believe.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Them, Yeah, I believe. I worry frankly that the traditional
bureaucrats and the traditional diplomats will try to find some
weasel word that allows them to sort of keep the
potential and not push them to the wall. But I
think so, I think Trump's intent is clear that we
want to eliminate any possibility the Uranian dictatorship being able
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to get acquire a nuclear weapon period. And I think
if he's if he's tough enough, I think that in fact,
they will see that they'll succeed in doing that. Well.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, either they stop in Richmond with anywhere, any place,
anytime inspections and they break down the nuclear facilities, or
probably is not a deal that would ever work.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Right, And remember we just discovered a huge secret nuclear
facility that none of us knew existed. So, I mean,
trying to police the Iranian dictatorship is a big challenge.
It can be done, but we're we're asking them to
be open to foreigners on a scale they never dream of.
So it counts me as thinking that in the end
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we may have to use force just because in the
end it may be too big a stretch for them
inside their own culture to give in under this. You know,
I'm not one hundred percent there, but I have a
hunch that it's going to be more difficult. And I
think Trump's finding that out. Franklin Gauz and he's finding
it out in Ukraine. It's dramatically easier for an American
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president to reshape the United States than it is for
them to reshape historical situations where you have opponents who
are quite prepared to die for what they believe in.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Back to your point about this being a largely economic trip.
So we land in Saudi Arabia and I'm reporting from
Air Force one, and we have a lot of great
tape that we're going to run during the week on
Hannity at nine o'clock, including you know, part one on
my interview with the President tonight. But we have other
guests as well. And anyway, we land and within an hour,
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I'm in a room with the top every big business
that every American would whose name they'd recognize. I didn't
realize that at the time because I'm at a table
with people and it was a mix of people from
Saudi Arabia, business people, foreign ministers, and cabinet officials. I
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was sitting next to the longest running cabinet official in
Saudi Arabia, and they're all there, and the president's cabinet
is there, and the Crown Prince's cabinet is there. It's
a who's who of business. I mean, when I read
the entire list, I was stunned about how many people.
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Every big company in America that you can think of
probably was here. That's how big it was. What is
your reaction to that, Well, I do a peace fright,
and then why would they ever invite me to such
a dinner like the lunch like that? I mean, that's
a that's the mystery of the century.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
No, that's a simple commentary on how much he regards
you as a personal friend of what thirty years experience.
I mean, you know, you're in a unique position inter
of anybody in the news world in terms of how
close you are to him and how candid and deep
the friendship is. But I think what you're saying I
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wrote about this a little bit on Friday when I
wrote a piece called to the becoming Trump Economic Boom.
What Donald Trump is a businessman who is now president,
but he has all the instincts of a very successful entrepreneur.
He is able to call and work with entrepreneurs, he
knows their language, he knows what they're dealing with, and
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offering everybody a chance in his first year of his
second presidency to be on the ground floor and potentially
make a huge amount of money and invest an enormous
amount of America. And if we can get this the
budget through in the next couple of weeks, I think
you're going to see just an enormous impetus because between
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the tariff negotiations, the dramatically lower taxes, the very dramatic deregulation,
America is going to become the best place in the
world to invest in. And frankly, one of the groups
that has a lot of money to invest to the Saudis.
So there's talk that they're going to commit to a
trillion dollars invested in the US over the next decade.
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Now that's real money. Now.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I want to go back to a point I was
making earlier, which is that a lot of these countries,
I think, have had to thread this needle of radicalism
within their ranks, and yet their desire to pivot to
a to a modernization that is rooted in economic growth,
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wealth prosperity for all people. You're not going to change
people's religion. You're not going to change their culture. You know,
those people that think those things I think, you know,
are just it's never going to happen. And you know,
like this whole issue, for example, is a Qatar gives
this plane to President Trump, and I looked at the
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deal on the surface, and then I started to do
some research. And what did I find out? The US
right now has over twenty six billion dollars in active
government to government defense sales with Katar. That's happening right now.
For context, the Foreign Military Sales Program allows the US
government to sell military equipment, training services to foreign government
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and organizations. Currently about one hundred and ninety countries international
organizations participate. But the recent sales to Qatar, and by
the way, the same thing goes for the Saudist as well,
include their most sophisticated military technology. Let me put it
another way, mister speaker, maybe a little bit more bluntly.
(10:08):
This plane was not given and I know people have
made comparisons to the Bidens. This was not to enrich
Donald Trump. If not for the United States, they would
not have security in this region. The Saudis wouldn't have it,
Qatar wouldn't have it, the UAE wouldn't have it. And
in many ways, I feel like that's part of the
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relationship because we are saving their country. We're helping to
save their country against radicals that also want to destroy
them too.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well. Look, I think that there's no question that Katar
once he gained some affection with this transaction, also no
question that it is a public transaction. It saved the
United States over four hundred million dollars because the Boeing
has failed to build the new Air Force ones on
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a timely basis, which is a disaster. And by the way,
Bowling is going to be one of the big winners
on this trip because I think several of the countries
are going to place huge orders for Boweling airliners. So
I mean, I mean Trump. Trump is very concerned about
the survival of Bowling despite what has been a decade
of incompetent management, and he has great hope that their
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new CEO, who's an engineer, is going to turn things around.
But this is not what the founding father is worried
about this. This is not like the French president who
was privately getting diamonds from a country in Africa for
his own pocketbook. This is this is a public activity
involving a public good. And I'm not particularly offended if
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we can get a four hundred million dollar plane and
given our budget.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
All right, click break, welcome back. We're in Saudi Arabia.
We are in Rio Odd more with former Speaker of
the House New Gingrich on all of the big news.
Don't forget President Trump on Hannity tonight nine Eastern as
we continue from Riod. And then you know, former Speaker
of the House Snoop Giggrich is with US broadcasting today
from Riod. We're in Saudi Arabia. Well, let me give
you more context, because again, you know, rather than rush
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to judgment like all of my colleagues in the state
run legacy media mob, Qatar has the largest US military
base in the Middle East. And here's a number that
you probably have not heard before, and you know pretty
much everything, but it was very deep in the weeds
and I found it. Since two thousand and three, Qatar
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has invested over eight billion dollars in our military base
to support key US Central Command operations. I didn't hear
anybody complaining about that money being spent.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
No, And I actually I had dinner with General Abrams
at that base just before the campaign against Iraq in
two thousand and three. You put Trainger on it earlier.
These countries are terrified of the Iranians, and they don't
want to have to rely on either the Russians or
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the Chinese because they don't regard either of them as
desirable allies, you know. And so in the end, the
one country in the world that has had a track
record of taking on the Iranians and building a network
of support is the United States, and that's been that
That's why the Middle East is so extraordinarily complicated, because
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it's you know, it turns out that from their standpoint,
Israel is no longer the central issue that it was
forty years ago. Iran is now the central issue.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Well, I mean, and we did partner correct me if
I'm wrong, because you are a historian, and at heart
you really are a professor, and I've learned an awful
lot from you over the many years of our friendship,
and you are like an older brother to me. But
correctly if I'm wrong, we did partner with our oars
jeemy the former Soviet Union in World War Two. That
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might be a little detail that people forgot.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
At Church. Churchill, who is a staunch Ani Communist, said,
if the Devil decided to fight Hitler, I'd find at
least a few good words to say about Hell.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Correct. I don't think you can say it any better.
I know you have to run, mister speaker. Wish you
were here with us in Saudi Arabia. You are deeply
missed and all the.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Time I've known you, this may have been the coolest
thing you've done. This trip with you being right in
the middle of it is astonishing.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I think you'll enjoy the President in my interview tonight.
I hope you. I hope you won't miss it. Appreciate
your time as always, sir, Thank you, Speaker of the House.
New Gingbridge will get to your calls eight hundred nine
four one, Shawn, if you ever want to be a
part of this program, Yes, we'll take your calls. In
Saudi Arabian Riot one hundred and eight degrees today, Linda
(14:53):
Hunt and it's a dropleasing you always say you're cold
so you're now you're nice and warm, nice and toast. No, no, no,
this is a little too hot, little too hot.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Pale Irish skin.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Uh oh, it was covered. I still had my Nike
uh T shirt on with a hoodie. Oh my god,
Oh my gosh. All right, we are always pleased to
welcome back to the program of our friend Brigitte Gabriel,
who herself is a survivor of terrorism. She's with ACT
for America founder and chairman. I want to play part
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of Donald Trump in his speech earlier. Now, we did
mention that, and we're going to play it in the
last hour of the program. The President's speech here, you know,
calling on the Saudias to recognize Israel. Now, privately, this
is all happening. I mean, that's the untold story that
we've been telling since the president's first term. Is there
is a genuine fright, fear that is palpable in terms
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of wanting to rid the region of the threat that
is Iran and Iran militancy and Iran's you know, caliphate
Live or Die, and Iran wanting a weapon of mass destruction,
which you know, when people tell you they want to
wipe you off the face of the Earth. You might
want to pay attention and listen to it. We told
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you the President said that we'll play more of it later.
But he also said if there is a military intervention
against Iran, that Israel will be the leader, but nobody's
going to tell him what to do. Here's what he
said with Iran.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, if we if it requires military, we're going to
have military. Israel will obviously be very much involved in that.
He'll be the leader of that, but nobody leads us.
We do what we want to do.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Anyway, appreciate welcome back to the program. Great to have you.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I thank you my friends. Delighted to be back with you.
And what a day.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Well, tell me what your thoughts are. I'm I'm here
in the middle of it. You know, I said this
to nuke Gingrich in the last half hour is one
of the things that happened, you know. And I'm very
very clear here. I'm not putting aside since in the past.
I'm not overlooking past positions radicalisms, turning a blind eye
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towards radicalism. But I am seeing the emergence of a
desire to move away from radicalism, and I think that
needs to be pointed out, but it's going to have
to be back with action. But more importantly, you know,
in the President's first term, it was the United States, Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Emirates,
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the Saudis all aligned in ways that it seemingly never
got any press sharing intelligence for example, all against Iranian
hegemony in the region. And I think that's an untold story.
Nobody wants the Iranians to get a nuke. Everybody is aligned,
Everybody knows the danger to the region and the entire world.
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That and economic prosperity seemed to be driving where the
Middle East is potentially heading. And I think that's why
the President called on the Saudis to recognize and support Israel.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Exactly Sean and especially since October seventh last year, we
have seen destruction on display on world news no matter
where you are in the world. The Arabs who are
living outside of them midd least, we're watching the destruction
of Gaza, the destruction of cities in Lebanon, the destruction
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of Syria, the falling apart. They are watching the destruction
of Yemen under the hotties, and they are saying to themselves,
especially when they look at the prosperity of Saudi Arabia,
the prosperity of the United Arab Imarats you know, Kata
are all the nations that invested in commercial building, an
industrial revolution. They are watching how they are prospering. Their
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people are living in peace, they are getting wealthier, their
children are getting more education. And on the other hand,
you are seeing poverty, starvation, pain and throughout the Arabic
world for those who are supporting terrorism. So at the
end of the day, especially after the last year and
a half, they are tired. The Arabs who are in
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the Palestinian territories as much as the eighth Israel, we
are now seeing a backlash against Hamas. Hammas is suppressing
that backlash. This is why it is not being advertised
on the world media. We see glimpse of it because
Hamas puts the Cabas on it. But the Palestinians are
sick and tired of the leadership of Hamas. People in
Syria want to get back alive. People in Lebanon are
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tired of Hosbala manipulating their life. After all, they destroyed
the country. So this is why today President Trump's message
and what we are seeing, what we witnessed today out
of Riyad. You know, when I was watching his speech today,
I had multiple television screens at my office. I was
watching Al Rabilla, Al Jazeera, Ahad TV, multiple leading Arabic
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news agencies as well as watching his speech, and the
reaction was amazing. They have help. And I was watching
the commentary afterwards when different continents came on to comment
on the President's speech. The different commentaries from different nations
who came on different Arabic leading TV channels, whether a
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Ladab or Al Jezira or Alhadas, all said independently of
each other, America is back. You heard that statement repeated
from different people who say America is back, stronger than ever.
America now is going to bring peace to the Middle East.
There is a chance, and they all have help. Today
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can be summarized with hope for the Middle East. And
you know as well as I know that President Trump
is not going to throw Israel under the bus, but
he's going to make sure that Israel is protected and
the Sunique strong air up countries in the Middle East
are going to sign a peace treaty or had something
with Israel before he leaves office. In his presidency.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Well, I mean, here's what I've been saying, and I
think there's evidence that it's happening. Is there has been
a pivot in terms of many of these Middle Eastern
countries that now want to do business and prosper that that.
But however, that's still going to require require them to
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purge the radicals that remain and not turn a blind
eye as has happened in the past. You and I
both know it to radicalism in their midst and as
the President challenged Saudi Arabia today to make the pivot
and call, we called on the Saudis to join the
Abraham Accords recognizing Israel, and I think at the right point.
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I honestly think that the only reason they don't do
it is because they believe that there'll be retribution and
they don't have the military might to take on the Iranians.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
No, you are correct. They are afraid of the retribution
because look at it this way. In America, we have
elections every four years, and every four years we changed leadership.
Look at the previous leadership under Biden. I mean, what
a difference between the welcome reception of President Trump and
the givenescry between President Trump and Ben Selman. You can
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see it on display. They are true friends. There's a
truly genuine respect and admiration with Biden. One Biden landed
when he was in in South Arabia, we didn't even
know if they were going to shake hands. I mean,
it was such a cold, different type of fabricated theater
in front of the world relationship, but it meant nothing.
So the Faoudies were always afraid because they cannot trust
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what comes next. What President Trump is trying to do now,
especially with the codification of these business relationships, menting these
business deals, especially the military deals that have wing with
Saudi Arabia. This gives the Saudis these strength the confidence
to say, Okay, we know America's got our back. We
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know that under his presidency, because we've got another for
three years of President Trump. We know for the next
three years we can move their relationship and the assurances
so far forward that we can be protected if we
recognize Israel and do a peace treaty with Israel, even
if it's on the governmental level like Egypt, like Jordan. Look,
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zeb and Jordan have a peace treaty with Israel on
a governmental level. Not that the people of Jordan or
the people in Egypt are in love with Israel, but
at least at the government level, they know there's not
going to be any war, and governments are cooperating with
each other and sharing intelligence protecting each other. As you
well know, the Egyptians and the Saudis and the United
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Arab Immert and the Israelis are coordinating on intelligence, especially
when it comes to protecting themselves and their interests from Iran,
who wants to establish a giminy in the Middle East.
I think President Trumps today's visit the Saudi Arabia and
his speech, and also the way he edified Vincelman, the
crown Prince, and how he kept praising him and lifting
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his stature in the eyes of the Arabic world and
Arabic leaders. You know, there's a difference between edifying somebody
in front of their own people, but when you edify
them on the world stage while people representative from around
the world are sitting there and speech carried worldwide, where
the Arabic media, the Arabic everybody was watching today's speech.
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When he lifted up the crown trends to the point
where you are my friend. I love you. We're going
to have a great relationship business wise, family wise for
years to come. You will always be my friend. You've
got you did an amazing job building Saudi Arabia. I'm
impressed with what you have accomplished. He praised him in
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every way and by lifting his stature, as if if
he's lifting anyway, I mean he's already very well respected,
but by elevating him to the level of almost like Trump,
the Trump of the Middle East, Benceelman, that gives ben
Selman the strength to be able to make decisions move
forward without fearing retribution on the level that it would
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have been four years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well, I got to tell you some I think you
you've really analyzed this very well. Well, I quick break.
We'll come right back more with Regie Cabriel as we continue.
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calls and the President's speech from earlier today straight ahead.
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Don't forget my interview with the President tonight on Air
Force one will air on the Fox News Channel nine
Eastern cite you DVR. You know, I give I brought
this up with New two on this issue of Qatar
and the plane. You know, it's very funny that nobody
ever mentions that if it wasn't for the United States,
it's military might, it's willingness to share its military technology.
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We currently have twenty six billion in active government to
government defense sales with Katar. Because they need our technology,
they need our military might, they need our military advancement.
Nobody ever to point it out. For example, the Qatar
is the home of the largest US military base in
the entire Middle East, and since two thousand and three,
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Qatar has invested over eight billion dollars in the base.
This has been an ongoing relationship in spite of again
I go back to you know, all these countries, they
cannot turn a blind eye towards radicalism, anymore. Now, with
that said, I agree with you. I think the fear
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is palpable and real. They don't want to show down
with it. They don't want to be fighting the hoodies.
They don't want to be fighting the Iranians. They don't
want to be fighting Hisbllah. They don't want to be
fighting Islamic Jiha. They don't want to be fighting Hamas.
They don't have that kind of military might. Maybe united
they might, so, you know, purging radicals, not turning a
blind eye to radicalism is a big part, and staying
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focused on economic success, which is which is where they
seem to be headed. And I'll give them the benefit
of the doubt, but joining the Abraham Accords would be
a big step that I think the President was right
to call him out. You get the last word.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yes, And today we saw America's might and power on display,
both political, military and business power. And the world respects that.
The Middle least respects that, and that's exactly why they
brought Syria to the fall. This is exactly why they said,
we're going to lift the sanctions on Syria. We are
open to start the talks to Syria because Saudi Arabia
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wanted to immediately make sure they jump in and rebuild
that relationship with the Saudis to block Iran completely out
what President Trump is doing. Look, President Trump is not dumb.
He understands the threat of radical Islam. He understands the
threat from Cutter. By the way, Cutter needs us more
than we need them. We can move that base out
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of Kutar tomorrow and to anywhere else that base is
supporting the Cutter is not us.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
President, thank you. They need us more than we need them,
That's correct, And we give them more than anybody ever
pays any attention to. You know why, because the legacy
media mob is lazy, brijitite. They are lazy people that
don't do any research. But I have to run. But
it's always a pleasure to talk to you all the
best we think the world.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Thank you so much forgitque A Briel eight hundred and
ninety four one seawn. All right, So the President saying
we have to use force against the Ran we will,
and challenging the Saudis as we broadcast from Riod to
join the Abraham Accords recognize Israel, which I think was
a big step, and then the President going through what
was nothing short of a series of several new agreements
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with the Saudis today lifting sanctions. As Brigitte said on
Syria announcing the billions of dollars, that the hundreds of
billions of dollars committed from the Saudi government to invest
in the United States, including a defense partnership, there's a
lot happening here that you know, will bear a lot
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of fruit.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
M
All right, thanks Scott Shan In our two Sean Hannity
Show toll free it is eight hundred and nine point
one Shawn, if you want to be a part of
the program, as we come to you, we are in Riad.
We are in Saudi Arabia, undisclosed location. As for security
now I'm kidding anyway, Thank you for being with us.
It's been an amazing trip, as I went over in
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the last hour. Then, of course we have the big issue,
the last American released hostage that has been released from Israel,
and this trip, which I think is historic to Saudi Arabia,
Qatar tomorrow and the UAE and Abu Dhabi, and we
will be on every leg of that trip. Mister speaker,
(00:42):
we talk a lot about transformational and consequential. Every one
of these issues is transformational and consequential. And I forgot
to mention that we expect Putin and Zelenski to be
meeting on Thursday of this week.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, and meanwhile, back at home, the House is steadily
moving forward on that gigantic budget bill that really is
at the heart of Trump's economic plan. So you have
a lot of different moving parts. I think the most
fascinating thing I'm going to write about this for The
New York Sun later on this week. Is the center
(01:22):
trip by a president which is focused, frankly a lot
more on economics than on geopolitics. I mean, I think
his goal and part is going to be to get
huge investments in the United States, made some very big
sales for American companies, and significantly improved the American economy.
(01:42):
That is an enormous shift from the way presidents from
nineteen thirty nine on went around the world. Historically we
were so wealthy and so big. They go around the
world giving away things and focusing virtually everything on geopolitics
and nothing on economics. This is going to be exact opposite,
And of course he he today. I thought, very boldly,
(02:04):
here's a little surprise they did it, called on Saudi
Arabia to recognize Israel. Now, you know, he is a
very good relationship with the royal family, and I think
thrilled that for the second time visiting Saudi Arabia is
the beginning of his foreign travels as it was in
(02:24):
twenty seventeen. But it's also in terms of publicly just
coming right out, I think probably was a little bit
startling to them that he was so strong and so
clear that he wants them to recognize Israel, which I
think is a big step in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The untold story of his first term, or one of
the untold stories of his first term was and it's
a little secret, and a lot of these countries are
too vulnerable to the military mic that is the Iranians,
so they don't take them on directly. And I'm not
I'm not putting aside. I'm not casting aside past sins,
(03:03):
the past past associations, any of that, and I think
that does need to be discussed and pointed out. But
there was an achievement in his first term where the
United States, Israel, Jordanians, Egyptians, Emirates, the Saudis all united
together and we're sharing intelligence. And they had one goal.
(03:27):
It was against Iranian hegemony in the region. And now
there is an urgency to ensure that, in fact, the
Iranians don't get a nuclear weapon. Now I have my
interview tonight, but it's going to be part one. I
asked the President directly about this question or layered either
tonight or tomorrow, and I will tell you that the
(03:50):
President is steadfast. They're not getting a weapon, mister speaker,
and I've known him thirty years. If he says it,
I believe.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Them, Yeah, I believe. I worry frankly that the traditional
bureaucrats and the traditional diplomats will try to find some
weasel word that allows them to sort of keep the
potential and not push them to the wall. But I
think so, I think Trump's intent is clear that we
want to eliminate any possibility the Uranian dictatorship being able
(04:19):
to get acquire a nuclear weapon period. And I think
if he's if he's tough enough, I think that in fact,
they will see that they'll succeed in doing that. Well.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, either they stop in Richmond with anywhere, any place,
anytime inspections and they break down the nuclear facilities, or
probably is not a deal that would ever work.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Right, And remember we just discovered a huge secret nuclear
facility that none of us knew existed. So, I mean,
trying to police the Iranian dictatorship is a big challenge.
It can be done, but we're we're asking them to
be open to foreigners on a scale they never dream of.
So it counts me as thinking that in the end
(05:04):
we may have to use force just because in the
end it may be too big a stretch for them
inside their own culture to give in under this. You know,
I'm not one hundred percent there, but I have a
hunch that it's going to be more difficult. And I
think Trump's finding that out. Franklin Gauz and he's finding
it out in Ukraine. It's dramatically easier for an American
(05:30):
president to reshape the United States than it is for
them to reshape historical situations where you have opponents who
are quite prepared to die for what they believe in.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Back to your point about this being a largely economic trip.
So we land in Saudi Arabia and I'm reporting from
Air Force one, and we have a lot of great
tape that we're going to run during the week on
Hannity at nine o'clock, including you know, part one on
my interview with the President tonight. But we have other
guests as well. And anyway, we land and within an hour,
(06:04):
I'm in a room with the top every big business
that every American would whose name they'd recognize. I didn't
realize that at the time because I'm at a table
with people and it was a mix of people from
Saudi Arabia, business people, foreign ministers, and cabinet officials. I
(06:27):
was sitting next to the longest running cabinet official in
Saudi Arabia, and they're all there, and the president's cabinet
is there, and the Crown Prince's cabinet is there. It's
a who's who of business. I mean, when I read
the entire list, I was stunned about how many people.
(06:51):
Every big company in America that you can think of
probably was here. That's how big it was. What is
your reaction to that, Well, I do a peace fright,
and then why would they ever invite me to such
a dinner like the lunch like that? I mean, that's
a that's the mystery of the century.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
No, that's a simple commentary on how much he regards
you as a personal friend of what thirty years experience.
I mean, you know, you're in a unique position inter
of anybody in the news world in terms of how
close you are to him and how candid and deep
the friendship is. But I think what you're saying I
(07:31):
wrote about this a little bit on Friday when I
wrote a piece called to the becoming Trump Economic Boom.
What Donald Trump is a businessman who is now president,
but he has all the instincts of a very successful entrepreneur.
He is able to call and work with entrepreneurs, he
knows their language, he knows what they're dealing with, and
(07:55):
offering everybody a chance in his first year of his
second presidency to be on the ground floor and potentially
make a huge amount of money and invest an enormous
amount of America. And if we can get this the
budget through in the next couple of weeks, I think
you're going to see just an enormous impetus because between
(08:17):
the tariff negotiations, the dramatically lower taxes, the very dramatic deregulation,
America is going to become the best place in the
world to invest in. And frankly, one of the groups
that has a lot of money to invest to the Saudis.
So there's talk that they're going to commit to a
trillion dollars invested in the US over the next decade.
(08:39):
Now that's real money. Now.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I want to go back to a point I was
making earlier, which is that a lot of these countries,
I think, have had to thread this needle of radicalism
within their ranks, and yet their desire to pivot to
a to a modernization that is rooted in economic growth,
(09:04):
wealth prosperity for all people. You're not going to change
people's religion. You're not going to change their culture. You know,
those people that think those things I think, you know,
are just it's never going to happen. And you know,
like this whole issue, for example, is a Qatar gives
this plane to President Trump, and I looked at the
(09:26):
deal on the surface, and then I started to do
some research. And what did I find out? The US
right now has over twenty six billion dollars in active
government to government defense sales with Katar. That's happening right now.
For context, the Foreign Military Sales Program allows the US
government to sell military equipment, training services to foreign government
(09:47):
and organizations. Currently about one hundred and ninety countries international
organizations participate. But the recent sales to Qatar, and by
the way, the same thing goes for the Saudist as well,
include their most sophisticated military technology. Let me put it
another way, mister speaker, maybe a little bit more bluntly.
(10:08):
This plane was not given and I know people have
made comparisons to the Bidens. This was not to enrich
Donald Trump. If not for the United States, they would
not have security in this region. The Saudis wouldn't have it,
Qatar wouldn't have it, the UAE wouldn't have it. And
in many ways, I feel like that's part of the
(10:30):
relationship because we are saving their country. We're helping to
save their country against radicals that also want to destroy
them too.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well. Look, I think that there's no question that Katar
once he gained some affection with this transaction, also no
question that it is a public transaction. It saved the
United States over four hundred million dollars because the Boeing
has failed to build the new Air Force ones on
(11:01):
a timely basis, which is a disaster. And by the way,
Bowling is going to be one of the big winners
on this trip because I think several of the countries
are going to place huge orders for Boweling airliners. So
I mean, I mean Trump. Trump is very concerned about
the survival of Bowling despite what has been a decade
of incompetent management, and he has great hope that their
(11:22):
new CEO, who's an engineer, is going to turn things around.
But this is not what the founding father is worried
about this. This is not like the French president who
was privately getting diamonds from a country in Africa for
his own pocketbook. This is this is a public activity
involving a public good. And I'm not particularly offended if
(11:45):
we can get a four hundred million dollar plane and
given our budget.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
All right, click break, welcome back. We're in Saudi Arabia.
We are in Rio Odd more with former Speaker of
the House New Gingrich on all of the big news.
Don't forget President Trump on Hannity tonight nine Eastern as
we continue from Riod. And then you know, former Speaker
of the House Snoop Giggrich is with US broadcasting today
from Riod. We're in Saudi Arabia. Well, let me give
you more context, because again, you know, rather than rush
(12:13):
to judgment like all of my colleagues in the state
run legacy media mob, Qatar has the largest US military
base in the Middle East. And here's a number that
you probably have not heard before, and you know pretty
much everything, but it was very deep in the weeds
and I found it. Since two thousand and three, Qatar
(12:34):
has invested over eight billion dollars in our military base
to support key US Central Command operations. I didn't hear
anybody complaining about that money being spent.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
No, And I actually I had dinner with General Abrams
at that base just before the campaign against Iraq in
two thousand and three. You put Trainger on it earlier.
These countries are terrified of the Iranians, and they don't
want to have to rely on either the Russians or
(13:08):
the Chinese because they don't regard either of them as
desirable allies, you know. And so in the end, the
one country in the world that has had a track
record of taking on the Iranians and building a network
of support is the United States, and that's been that
That's why the Middle East is so extraordinarily complicated, because
(13:32):
it's you know, it turns out that from their standpoint,
Israel is no longer the central issue that it was
forty years ago. Iran is now the central issue.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Well, I mean, and we did partner correct me if
I'm wrong, because you are a historian, and at heart
you really are a professor, and I've learned an awful
lot from you over the many years of our friendship,
and you are like an older brother to me. But
correctly if I'm wrong, we did partner with our oars
jeemy the former Soviet Union in World War Two. That
(14:03):
might be a little detail that people forgot.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
At Church. Churchill, who is a staunch Ani Communist, said,
if the Devil decided to fight Hitler, I'd find at
least a few good words to say about Hell.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Correct. I don't think you can say it any better.
I know you have to run, mister speaker. Wish you
were here with us in Saudi Arabia. You are deeply
missed and all the.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Time I've known you, this may have been the coolest
thing you've done. This trip with you being right in
the middle of it is astonishing.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I think you'll enjoy the President in my interview tonight.
I hope you. I hope you won't miss it. Appreciate
your time as always, sir, Thank you, Speaker of the House.
New Gingbridge will get to your calls eight hundred nine
four one, Shawn, if you ever want to be a
part of this program, Yes, we'll take your calls. In
Saudi Arabian Riot one hundred and eight degrees today, Linda
(14:53):
Hunt and it's a dropleasing you always say you're cold
so you're now you're nice and warm, nice and toast. No, no, no,
this is a little too hot, little too hot.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Pale Irish skin.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Uh oh, it was covered. I still had my Nike
uh T shirt on with a hoodie. Oh my god,
Oh my gosh. All right, we are always pleased to
welcome back to the program of our friend Brigitte Gabriel,
who herself is a survivor of terrorism. She's with ACT
for America founder and chairman. I want to play part
(15:27):
of Donald Trump in his speech earlier. Now, we did
mention that, and we're going to play it in the
last hour of the program. The President's speech here, you know,
calling on the Saudias to recognize Israel. Now, privately, this
is all happening. I mean, that's the untold story that
we've been telling since the president's first term. Is there
is a genuine fright, fear that is palpable in terms
(15:54):
of wanting to rid the region of the threat that
is Iran and Iran militancy and Iran's you know, caliphate
Live or Die, and Iran wanting a weapon of mass destruction,
which you know, when people tell you they want to
wipe you off the face of the Earth. You might
want to pay attention and listen to it. We told
(16:15):
you the President said that we'll play more of it later.
But he also said if there is a military intervention
against Iran, that Israel will be the leader, but nobody's
going to tell him what to do. Here's what he
said with Iran.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, if we if it requires military, we're going to
have military. Israel will obviously be very much involved in that.
He'll be the leader of that, but nobody leads us.
We do what we want to do.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Anyway, appreciate welcome back to the program. Great to have you.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I thank you my friends. Delighted to be back with you.
And what a day.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Well, tell me what your thoughts are. I'm I'm here
in the middle of it. You know, I said this
to nuke Gingrich in the last half hour is one
of the things that happened, you know. And I'm very
very clear here. I'm not putting aside since in the past.
I'm not overlooking past positions radicalisms, turning a blind eye
(17:10):
towards radicalism. But I am seeing the emergence of a
desire to move away from radicalism, and I think that
needs to be pointed out, but it's going to have
to be back with action. But more importantly, you know,
in the President's first term, it was the United States, Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Emirates,
(17:32):
the Saudis all aligned in ways that it seemingly never
got any press sharing intelligence for example, all against Iranian
hegemony in the region. And I think that's an untold story.
Nobody wants the Iranians to get a nuke. Everybody is aligned,
Everybody knows the danger to the region and the entire world.
(17:55):
That and economic prosperity seemed to be driving where the
Middle East is potentially heading. And I think that's why
the President called on the Saudis to recognize and support Israel.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Exactly Sean and especially since October seventh last year, we
have seen destruction on display on world news no matter
where you are in the world. The Arabs who are
living outside of them midd least, we're watching the destruction
of Gaza, the destruction of cities in Lebanon, the destruction
(18:31):
of Syria, the falling apart. They are watching the destruction
of Yemen under the hotties, and they are saying to themselves,
especially when they look at the prosperity of Saudi Arabia,
the prosperity of the United Arab Imarats you know, Kata
are all the nations that invested in commercial building, an
industrial revolution. They are watching how they are prospering. Their
(18:55):
people are living in peace, they are getting wealthier, their
children are getting more education. And on the other hand,
you are seeing poverty, starvation, pain and throughout the Arabic
world for those who are supporting terrorism. So at the
end of the day, especially after the last year and
a half, they are tired. The Arabs who are in
(19:16):
the Palestinian territories as much as the eighth Israel, we
are now seeing a backlash against Hamas. Hammas is suppressing
that backlash. This is why it is not being advertised
on the world media. We see glimpse of it because
Hamas puts the Cabas on it. But the Palestinians are
sick and tired of the leadership of Hamas. People in
Syria want to get back alive. People in Lebanon are
(19:40):
tired of Hosbala manipulating their life. After all, they destroyed
the country. So this is why today President Trump's message
and what we are seeing, what we witnessed today out
of Riyad. You know, when I was watching his speech today,
I had multiple television screens at my office. I was
watching Al Rabilla, Al Jazeera, Ahad TV, multiple leading Arabic
(20:03):
news agencies as well as watching his speech, and the
reaction was amazing. They have help. And I was watching
the commentary afterwards when different continents came on to comment
on the President's speech. The different commentaries from different nations
who came on different Arabic leading TV channels, whether a
(20:25):
Ladab or Al Jezira or Alhadas, all said independently of
each other, America is back. You heard that statement repeated
from different people who say America is back, stronger than ever.
America now is going to bring peace to the Middle East.
There is a chance, and they all have help. Today
(20:46):
can be summarized with hope for the Middle East. And
you know as well as I know that President Trump
is not going to throw Israel under the bus, but
he's going to make sure that Israel is protected and
the Sunique strong air up countries in the Middle East
are going to sign a peace treaty or had something
with Israel before he leaves office. In his presidency.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Well, I mean, here's what I've been saying, and I
think there's evidence that it's happening. Is there has been
a pivot in terms of many of these Middle Eastern
countries that now want to do business and prosper that that.
But however, that's still going to require require them to
(21:32):
purge the radicals that remain and not turn a blind
eye as has happened in the past. You and I
both know it to radicalism in their midst and as
the President challenged Saudi Arabia today to make the pivot
and call, we called on the Saudis to join the
Abraham Accords recognizing Israel, and I think at the right point.
(21:57):
I honestly think that the only reason they don't do
it is because they believe that there'll be retribution and
they don't have the military might to take on the Iranians.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
No, you are correct. They are afraid of the retribution
because look at it this way. In America, we have
elections every four years, and every four years we changed leadership.
Look at the previous leadership under Biden. I mean, what
a difference between the welcome reception of President Trump and
the givenescry between President Trump and Ben Selman. You can
(22:29):
see it on display. They are true friends. There's a
truly genuine respect and admiration with Biden. One Biden landed
when he was in in South Arabia, we didn't even
know if they were going to shake hands. I mean,
it was such a cold, different type of fabricated theater
in front of the world relationship, but it meant nothing.
So the Faoudies were always afraid because they cannot trust
(22:51):
what comes next. What President Trump is trying to do now,
especially with the codification of these business relationships, menting these
business deals, especially the military deals that have wing with
Saudi Arabia. This gives the Saudis these strength the confidence
to say, Okay, we know America's got our back. We
(23:14):
know that under his presidency, because we've got another for
three years of President Trump. We know for the next
three years we can move their relationship and the assurances
so far forward that we can be protected if we
recognize Israel and do a peace treaty with Israel, even
if it's on the governmental level like Egypt, like Jordan. Look,
(23:38):
zeb and Jordan have a peace treaty with Israel on
a governmental level. Not that the people of Jordan or
the people in Egypt are in love with Israel, but
at least at the government level, they know there's not
going to be any war, and governments are cooperating with
each other and sharing intelligence protecting each other. As you
well know, the Egyptians and the Saudis and the United
(24:00):
Arab Immert and the Israelis are coordinating on intelligence, especially
when it comes to protecting themselves and their interests from Iran,
who wants to establish a giminy in the Middle East.
I think President Trumps today's visit the Saudi Arabia and
his speech, and also the way he edified Vincelman, the
crown Prince, and how he kept praising him and lifting
(24:23):
his stature in the eyes of the Arabic world and
Arabic leaders. You know, there's a difference between edifying somebody
in front of their own people, but when you edify
them on the world stage while people representative from around
the world are sitting there and speech carried worldwide, where
the Arabic media, the Arabic everybody was watching today's speech.
(24:47):
When he lifted up the crown trends to the point
where you are my friend. I love you. We're going
to have a great relationship business wise, family wise for
years to come. You will always be my friend. You've
got you did an amazing job building Saudi Arabia. I'm
impressed with what you have accomplished. He praised him in
(25:07):
every way and by lifting his stature, as if if
he's lifting anyway, I mean he's already very well respected,
but by elevating him to the level of almost like Trump,
the Trump of the Middle East, Benceelman, that gives ben
Selman the strength to be able to make decisions move
forward without fearing retribution on the level that it would
(25:30):
have been four years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well, I got to tell you some I think you
you've really analyzed this very well. Well, I quick break.
We'll come right back more with Regie Cabriel as we continue.
We are live, we are in Saudi Arabia. My interview
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(27:20):
Don't forget my interview with the President tonight on Air
Force one will air on the Fox News Channel nine
Eastern cite you DVR. You know, I give I brought
this up with New two on this issue of Qatar
and the plane. You know, it's very funny that nobody
ever mentions that if it wasn't for the United States,
it's military might, it's willingness to share its military technology.
(27:46):
We currently have twenty six billion in active government to
government defense sales with Katar. Because they need our technology,
they need our military might, they need our military advancement.
Nobody ever to point it out. For example, the Qatar
is the home of the largest US military base in
the entire Middle East, and since two thousand and three,
(28:08):
Qatar has invested over eight billion dollars in the base.
This has been an ongoing relationship in spite of again
I go back to you know, all these countries, they
cannot turn a blind eye towards radicalism, anymore. Now, with
that said, I agree with you. I think the fear
(28:31):
is palpable and real. They don't want to show down
with it. They don't want to be fighting the hoodies.
They don't want to be fighting the Iranians. They don't
want to be fighting Hisbllah. They don't want to be
fighting Islamic Jiha. They don't want to be fighting Hamas.
They don't have that kind of military might. Maybe united
they might, so, you know, purging radicals, not turning a
blind eye to radicalism is a big part, and staying
(28:53):
focused on economic success, which is which is where they
seem to be headed. And I'll give them the benefit
of the doubt, but joining the Abraham Accords would be
a big step that I think the President was right
to call him out. You get the last word.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yes, And today we saw America's might and power on display,
both political, military and business power. And the world respects that.
The Middle least respects that, and that's exactly why they
brought Syria to the fall. This is exactly why they said,
we're going to lift the sanctions on Syria. We are
open to start the talks to Syria because Saudi Arabia
(29:28):
wanted to immediately make sure they jump in and rebuild
that relationship with the Saudis to block Iran completely out
what President Trump is doing. Look, President Trump is not dumb.
He understands the threat of radical Islam. He understands the
threat from Cutter. By the way, Cutter needs us more
than we need them. We can move that base out
(29:51):
of Kutar tomorrow and to anywhere else that base is
supporting the Cutter is not us.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
President, thank you. They need us more than we need them,
That's correct, And we give them more than anybody ever
pays any attention to. You know why, because the legacy
media mob is lazy, brijitite. They are lazy people that
don't do any research. But I have to run. But
it's always a pleasure to talk to you all the
best we think the world.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Thank you so much forgitque A Briel eight hundred and
ninety four one seawn. All right, So the President saying
we have to use force against the Ran we will,
and challenging the Saudis as we broadcast from Riod to
join the Abraham Accords recognize Israel, which I think was
a big step, and then the President going through what
was nothing short of a series of several new agreements
(30:39):
with the Saudis today lifting sanctions. As Brigitte said on
Syria announcing the billions of dollars, that the hundreds of
billions of dollars committed from the Saudi government to invest
in the United States, including a defense partnership, there's a
lot happening here that you know, will bear a lot
(31:00):
of fruit.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
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In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com