June 21, 2024 • 31 mins
Doug Schoen, lawyer & political analyst and Roger Severino, VP of Domestic Policy at Heritage and Trump's former Director of the Office of Civil Rights (HHS) discuss Louisiana’s decisions to put the 10 commandments into public school classrooms.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Louisiana Governor Jeff Flandry Wednesday signed a law requiring that
every classroom that receives public funding, including colleges and universities,
that they display a Protestant translation of the Ten Commandments.
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A number of civil organizations, the ACLU, have vowed to
file a lawsuit to challenge the law. He very proudly
said he looks forward to the legal challenge, wants the
legal challenge, expects the legal challenge. And I guess what
would be in play is the Supreme Court ruling in
nineteen eighty that a Kentucky law requiring the Ten Commandments
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be posted in public classrooms being unconstitutional. All right, this
is a different Supreme Court. Would they change their mind?
Would they change precedent? That's an issue for a lot
of people to discuss and debate. But anyway, here to
discuss and debate, we have Doug shown is back with
US lawyer political analyst Roger Severino, Vice president of Domestic
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Policy at Heritage and Trump's former director of Office of
Civil Rights at the Health the Human Services. Thank you
both for being one of us. Roger, let's start with
you gutsy move on the part of the governor. He
knows there's going to be a legal challenge, he knows
that the argument is going to be separation at church
and state.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What's your reaction.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, this is a new Supreme Court. This is not
the same Supreme Court of thirty years ago that was
much more hostile to religion. Here we had many wins
on religious exercise and on the astablishment clause. What religion
is being established by the Ten Commandments? Exactly? Is it Judaism?
Is it Christianity? And how is having something posted an
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establishment when nobody's required to resign it to believe it.
There's no courage. And in schools across the country, we
have the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag and people
stand up and say one nation under God. Now they're
not required to right, we have Supreme Court saying that
if you have a religious objection or conscientious objection, you
don't have to be forced to do that, but being
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exposed to it, and we have in God, we trust
in our money. The Declaration of Independence speaks about the
Creator and Nature's God. So all these things can be posted,
and they are part of our history, part of our culture.
It is not an endorsement. So I think they're going
to be challenged by the less of course, because they'd
rather have, you know, LGBT flags being posted in our
schools as opposed to the Ten Commandments.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Let's get your take, Doug shown.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So I am probably a little older than everybody, and
I say that proudly because I grew up saying the
pledge of the Allegian, singing the national anthem, and being
committed to the values of the Ten Commandments. And I
didn't have been prouder to grow up in a country
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like that. I don't see this as establishment of religion.
I see it as reaffirmation of our core values, both
as a nation and as a country. And I'm thrilled
by this, And as a Democrat, I wish my party
would embrace principles like this. This is not book burning
or book manning anything like this. This is posting values
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that I think every decent human beings should be exposed to.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Is it fair to say and when some people say it,
I mean, you get the woke mob all you worked
up that America was founded on Judeo Christian principles.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Is that a fair statement, Doug, of course it is.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
It's what I was brought up on, what gave me
pride as a young boy and as a young man,
and gives me pride today. The Judeo Christian ethos is
what I am committed to, what I believe and seawan
Based on our conversations over the years, I know that's
how you've led your life, and it has meant a
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huge amount in my life, my family's life. And I
hope and hope that there is a challenge in the
Supreme Court allows the Ten Commandments to be posted forever more.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Based on the Supreme Court precedent. You don't think that's
going to be a factor because this is a different
Supreme Court, but there always does, at least historically. There
does seem to have always been a lack of desire
among justices to go against long running precedents, and I
would say nineteen eighty decision would probably fit into that category,
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would you agree, Roger?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
The Coach Kennedy case, where was a coach actually prayed
at the fiftyr line at a football public high school.
That case said, we're getting rid of that old standard,
the endorsement, the mixing of religion and the secular sphere
in school. All those cases now have put into question
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because of the new presidents. Count of resources gown away.
Couldn't there be legislative prayer? Can you open up a
town council meeting with prayer? And they talked about the
history and tradition of our country. The Founders would have
no issue whatsoever with the Ten Commandments being posted in
the school, not at all. Look at the McGuffey readers
that they had for decades that had religious principles, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But they did have the Lord's Prayer, the Ten Commandments
in schools all the way up until these historic decisions
in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Did they not prayer in school?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Oh yeah, they absolutely did.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And we never evolved into a state run religion, did we.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
No. Now there are some limits, and that really comes
down to corrosion. Right, there's no corresion going on here
if they simply post the Ten Commandments at the school,
just like posting a flag, right, it's laden with meeting
of course, and it's important, but it's historical, and the
values that are included in there aren't just religious right
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dalshall not kill, Dawsha not both witness you want our
kids lying and killing and stealing and et cetera, and
coveting no. And these were part of the Judeo Christian
principles that were part of the founding, And since the
founder would have no problem with it, I think the
Supreme Court would be much more comfortable with it.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Now your take, Doug, do you agree with that legal analysis?
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I do agree with the legal analysis. And having said
the pledge of allegiance, the Lord's player and the like,
I said this as a proud Jewish American who went
to Sunday School was far mits. But I didn't take
this as establishment of religion. I took it as a
reassertion and reaffirmation of our core values, which I think,
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frankly today we need more than ever. So I hope
and pray that we get a good ruling from the
Supreme Court that makes all of us come together around
values that are attorneys.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
We certainly need eternal, eternal values, don't we. It seems
like we've we've come a long way in going in
the other direction. And I I'm not saying that I
would ever endorse or support in any way a state
rum religion of any kind. However, I think the idea
of values is is something that's that's basically been completely
eliminated from our school system. You know, what were the
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top problems in the years leading up to the Supreme
Court decisions on prayer in school and and the Bible
reading actually took place in school, believe it or not. Uh,
you know, what were the top problems in our school system?
You know, talking in class, chewing gum and running in
the halls. What's the top problems today? Oh, let's see, Uh,
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you know, murder, violence, drug use. I mean, it's been
such a dramatic shift in the culture. You can't even
put a your you can't even put a long, a
long enough list together.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's gotten so bad.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Roger, Yeah, our school systems are in shambles, right, And
the Supreme Court has actually said now you can't discriminate
against religious schools because of their religious identity. That's another
change that's been welcome and good. There's been hostility towards
religious values, towards religious people, towards religious schools and that's
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been part of unfortunate, a dark chapter of American history.
And I mean Catholic schools were targeted because they were
Catholic early and you know, in the eighteen fifties and
sixties on and now secularists have taken on that original
mantle to use what work called blamee amendments to go
after school funding. This Supreme Court has rolled that back
and said you cannot discriminate against religious schools, religious institutions.
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They should have a seat at the table like everybody else.
And in particularly they're really good at what they do.
They serve inner city core and offer it at lower prices.
They have excellent value formation. These are good things that
a secular minded government, even that from the left, should
be you. And this has such good effects on people
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that we absolutely can't discriminate against it and exclude it
and treat it like a secondhand smoke and no kid
could ever be exposed to it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
How do we evolve from talking in class and chewing
them and running in the halls is our top problems
to the problems we face today.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Doug shown the.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Breakdown of discipline Sean the elimination in the inner city
of religious based educational like Catholic schools, the absence of
a Boucher system, the absence of choice in schools, the
lack of competition, the lack of discipline, the lack of decency,
and the kind of values we grew up with are gone.
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And it is to our detriment that that is the.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Case as a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
As you look at trump derangement syndrome, I mean, it's
a look at the paranoia that emerged this week. You know,
Chrissy tigue and Trump's going to be investigating her. Rachel
Maddow thinks she's going to be sent to a camp.
Joeli's Behart thinks for shows going to be canceled. AOC
thinks she's going to be jailed. I mean, they just
seem to have lost their mind. And a party that
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you know, used to have reasonable people in it, like
Joe Lieberman, is no longer exists. I don't I don't
see anybody that resembles a moderate Democrat in Washington today.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I don't either, Sean. I'm a lonely man. And while.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You still have friends, Doug, and there's still an invitation,
you're always welcome to become a conservative or become a Republican.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I'm sure, and I'm an assertive and aggressive moderate, and
I think there's plenty of room for us in American society.
But the way the left operates, if you do not
adhere to their tenants and principles, you're demonized. And that
to me, is again contrary to the values I grew
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up with, contrary to what I think we ought to
be teaching kids, and what really creates a corrosive society. Son,
and then it sends me deeply.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
All right, quick break more with our attorneys, Doug Shown
and Roger Severino. We'll get to your calls on the
other side.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
All right, We.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Continue with Roger Severino and Doug Shown eight hundred nine
to four one.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Shawn is on numbers. We continue this Friday.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I mean, I think this party has become so radicalized
that they can't see straight anymore. And I don't think
there's any greater example of that than the weaponization of
justice and nobody flinching when mar A Lago's a billion
dollar property value at eight million, that's perfectly okay, or
a novel political theory to go after Donald Trump for
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an eight year old legal non disclosure agreement that was
that was put together by a lawyer and labeled as
a legal expense up charged to a federal elections crime,
and everybody thinking, Oh, he's a convicted felon in a
venue that hates Donald Trump, brought by a DA that
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pledged to go after Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Your reaction, Roger, Well.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
The weaponization of DOJ has reached absurd proportions. And the
main point is if a former president of the United
States can be treated this way with kangaroo courts, it
could happen to any of us. There's now a political
enemies list that's being generated by the Biden administration. And
I don't know if you've heard of the story of
doctor Ayton him a whistleblower who actually reported on potentially
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illegal transgender surgeries of miners in a Texas hospital, and
the Biden administration has sent out the FBI to go
get him and indicted him for a potential hippo violations HIPPA.
I used to be at the Hippos, the nation's hippo regulator.
Under Trump, is this absurd weaponization that they're looking at
every single way to go after people who disagree with
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their political agenda. This is a mockery of the justice system.
It starts with Trump, but it ends with all of us,
and Doug.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
How does this end?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I mean, now that the laptop was very real, and
that we know that Joe light about it and Hunter
led about it, and fifty one former Intel officials that
knew nothing about it just outright lied because they wanted
Joe elected, and the FBI had validated its authenticity in
March of twenty twenty. But yet they were meeting weekly
with big Tech and warning them and pre bunking it
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by saying that, well, you're likely to be victims of disinformation.
It may be about Trump or I'm sorry, maybe about
Hunter or Joe Biden. And sure enough, when the story
breaks in the New York Post, which they knew would
break because they knew Rudy Giuliani's attorney at a copy
of it, and when Twitter and Facebook asked specifically if
the New York Post story is true, they wouldn't give
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him an answer. Sounds like they were putting their center
blocks on the scales of an election to me, all
of them, by lying.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
To my way of thinking, showing the best answer to
that question. If we have a debate on the twenty seventh.
Hopefully they will be future debates as well, and those
questions should be vetted, answered and raised with Joe Biden.
And I think there's nothing wrong with that. There are
tough questions for Donald Trump. They should be asked, tough
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questions for Joe Biden. And as we sit here today,
I can't tell you that what you're saying about the
laptop or the fifty one intelligence agents is wrong. I
look forward to hearing what Joe Biden has to say,
but our democracy has strengthened well.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Joe Biden better be careful because his own son says
he gives half his income to pops. That would be
the foreign money that he's making, and ten percent goes
to the big guy, and that he lied to the
American people, according to Devin Archer, appreciate you both. Roger
Severino Doug showan thank you eight hundred and ninety four
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all around the country. Right Wing Revolution, how to beat
the Woke and save the West. You know, and I
have never been, as I've said many times, this afraid
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about the direction of this country. I have never been
more concerned about the state of the world because we
have a president that has abdicated his role as president,
being the leader of the free world, and even has
gone as far as to surrender in the war against
radical Islamic terrorism. Never thought that would happen in our
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lifetime when you get to values and the culture wars
that are going on in the country. You know, look
at what we heard in just the last week week
and a half from the radicalized left. I mean, we
first heard conspiracy theorist and Rachel Maddow, you know, express
real worry and concern that Donald Trump, if he's elected,
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is going to put her in a camp. I'm not
even sure Donald Trump knows who Rachel Maddow is. You know,
that comment was echoed in an exchange when Matta went
on that hard hitting news show, The View with Joyla's
Behar and this is what ensued.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
You said recently that you thought that you, as an
outspoken critic, could be a target yourself. Some people think
that sounds all dramatic, but I'm right there with you.
I think that he is so vindictive that he will
go after however he has to do the irs, maybe
or even through sponsors to get us off the air.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
Maybe or you I think it's bad to have somebody saying,
give me as much power as you can in this
country so I can use it to go after other Americans.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
And then Chrissy Teagan the actress again, I take doubt
she's on Donald Trump's radar making similar comments. And then
nobody can out do AOC who's thinking Donald Trump, if
he's elected, he may put me in jail on everything.
Speaker 9 (18:56):
Listen, if Donald Trump wins, we are looking at the
potential dissolution of democracy in the United States of America.
It sounds nuts, but like I wouldn't be surprised that
this guy through me in jail.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It sounds nuts. She should have stopped there because it
is nuts. And even Nicole Wallace, you may recall Nicole
Wallace help run John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin's campaign,
even she is expressing similar sentiments.
Speaker 10 (19:26):
Listen, I've seen that past a bunch of times, but
it landed very differently this year, because depending on what
appens in November, seven months from right now, just time
next year, I might not be sitting here. I might
not be a White House correspondent's dinner or free press.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Maybe what they're really fearing is that which they have
done to conservatives, because it's people like Rogers Stone and
Paul Manifort, more recently Petere Navarro who's been in jail
the last few months, people like Steve Bannon that's going
to jail, what they have done with lawfair and the
weaponization of our justice system to Donald Trump. Maybe they
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fear that the Pandora's box they opened would be used
against them. Maybe that's what they really fear. Nor can
they run on are you better off than you are
four years ago? Anyway, we welcome back to the program.
It's been a while. Charlie kirk. He is the founder
of Turning Point USA as a brand new book out
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right Wing Revolution, How to Beat the Woke, Save the West,
Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com and bookstores around the country. Charlie,
great to have you back.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
How you been sean great honor, Thanks so much, And
that was a great intro. And I share that concern.
I've not been around that long, only about twelve years
in this space, and I'm thirty years old, but I
share that concern. It is an existential crisis against our country.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
By the way, you're making me feel really old. Thanks
a lot, Charlie, thanks so much compliment.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I don't have the wisdom in years that you have,
so I'm saying, have a lot to learn. But I boy,
I'm concerned about America. My goodness.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
But I know something.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I mean, your star has really taken off. And the
thing that interests me about turning point is I've watched
from afar and I'm very aware of what you've been doing.
And by the way, congratulations to you. I tip my
hat to you and all of your success. It's been
hard to earn. You work and hard, and you're reaching
a lot of people. But your original goal was to
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reach younger people. And we do see a phenomenon that
is emerging in this election, according to the polls that
African Americans, Hispanic Americans and young people. And you hear
Carville ranting and raving about young people that they are
abandoning the Democratic Party. Do you believe that's real?
Speaker 6 (21:40):
I do, And you know we're working really hard on
that in the last twelve years and even covering this
super well. Yeah, look, we don't know to what extent
it will actually manifest in this election, and we talked
about this in the book, but there certainly is a
course correction. Younger voters are seeing that they cannot afford
a home under the Biden economy. One amazing number sew
that we see to keep on repeating and repeating. According
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to zillo dot com, when Donald Trump left the Oval office,
it required seventy one thousand dollars a year to purchase
a single family home in this country.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Now it is.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
One hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a year. So
let's say our a twenty six year old millennial, you
just got married and you want to settle down and
start a family. To buy a single family home, it's
fifty thousand dollars a year more. It requires to just
be able to get what you're you know, the parent,
our parents' generation was able to enjoy. And so they're
looking at Donald Trump and they remember back to the
Trump economy, things were much easier, more affordable, and the
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American dream was more alive. And so younger voters are certainly,
for the first time since nineteen eighty eight, looking where
they actually might favor. The Republican candidate. Joe Biden is
pushing forward an extreme ideological agenda that is filled with
abstractions and lives and inconsistencies. And one other element of
this is number one, President Trump is running an excellent campaign.
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I think that Susie Wiles and James Blair, they're doing
a great job of putting Donald Trump in friendly environments
but also difficult environments where he has to sometimes joust
with podcast hosts like Logan Paul. But second element is
that the convictions have probably hurt Donald Trump a little
bit with older voters, but they've helped exceedingly with younger voters.
He's looked as the rebel, as the man who is
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fighting the system, and so that comes with some difficult
territory to navigate. But all things being equal, we are
seeing record gains of Donald Trump expanding the tent and
opening up the opportunity to do historically well with black,
Hispanics and younger voters. It's exciting and no one would
have predicted it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
When I saw him a week and a half ago,
he was about as dialed in as I have ever
seen him. And you probably don't remember this, but back
in twenty fifteen and sixteen when I supported President Trump,
I mean you had people like Glenn Beck and oh
so many, but Ben Shapiro by the way, people that
I like, I want to be very clear, but they
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were beating the crap out of me on a daily
basis because I was supporting Trump because I knew we
could win, and his ideas were out of the box
and it was taking conservatism to a new level. And
I think I was proven right. I think his presidency
was extraordinarily successful. I think his plans now would be
similarly be extraordinarily successful. What is your reaction when I
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played the tapes that I just played, or the predictions.
Matout thinks she'll be in a camp and an aoc
think she'll be in jail, and Joyless Bahart things she'll
lose her show, and Nicole Wallace thinks she may lose
her show. What's the reaction to all that? Because that
goes to the heart of your book about wokeness.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
That's right, And first, Sean, did you deserve a con
of credit. You were really early, earlier than me with Trump,
by the way, and you were just so you saw
the whole thing. You saw the working class, the muscular class,
how Donald Trump could expand the tent.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And by the way, Charlie, you know what it was,
the forgotten men and women in this country. And you
know what this election is about the same thing.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Yeah, and you saw the whole thing that the muscular class,
the forgotten men and woman, the plumber, the electrician, the
web the police officer, the firefighter, and you saw it.
And many of us were late to the later than
you to kind of see how Donald Trump could rebuild
that Reagan coalition. Look, my reaction first and foremost is
they think he's gonna win. They wouldn't be talking like
that if the inner chatter of the Democrat Party was
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super confident in Joe Biden. Now I don't necessarily believe
that we're one hundred percent gonna win. I give us
a fifty to fifty shot. But the Democrats are talking
openly and they're almost lamenting, as if you know they're
going to be sent to the gulags. But number three,
I mean, just it is. It is extraordinary to hear
them say this. There's no basiss in it. By what
means would that actually happen? But are they terrified that
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that there actually might be equal justice in this country
at some point? We do not want the weaponization of anything,
to be perfectly clear, But are they afraid that they
might have reached too far. Are they afraid that they
have gone and used the system of justice against media figures,
as you mentioned, as against people that might fight back
against the regime, And so I try not to take
it too seriously. These are very neurotic people. They spend
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all day long worrying about Donald Trump, and they've made
their entire life obsessed about it. And I got to
be honest, Sean, you popularized that term Trump derangement syndrome.
At first, I was like, Oh, that's a little cute.
I don't know if I like it. What an accurate term.
It is a real clinical problem TDS. And these people
they've let it dominate their life, They've let it destroy
their relationships, and they're kind of like husks of their
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former selves. I mean, Rachel Maddow's programmed this last week
was so sad to watch. I mean, she could she
be any more apocalyptic? It was like watching Greta Thunberg
on cable TV. She said, this is going to be
the end of politics as we know it. And we
talk about this in the book Right Wing Revolution, where
it is always the end of the world crisis for
the American left, And I think eventually that hysteria will
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run out. I mean, growing up, we're always tall told
the story of the Boy who Cried Wolf. I think
the American people are no longer going to fall with
the mass hysteria, the madness, and they're going to want
to go back to stability, order and America's dominance in
the world. And I believe that is Donald Trum.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know, it's interesting when I interviewed the President, I
asked him about the issue of the weaponization of our
justice system and whether or not he would ever want
to do to them, because that's what the left talks about,
that he'd be involved in retribution. And I realized that
a lot of people miss my point. They said, Hannity,
why are you pressing the president on this? This is
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so wrong of you. They of course they should happen.
I'm like, no, conservatives have fidelity to our constitution. But
for example, that doesn't mean now that the very real
laptop that we were lied to about in the weeks
leading up to the twenty twenty election, well, now that
it's been authenticated and validated, which the FBI did in
March of twenty twenty. Putting that aside for a minute, Hunter.
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Biden implicates his own father, doesn't he when he says
that half his income goes to Pops when they talk
about ten percent for the big guy, when he's asking
their financial guy, well, which account should we pay for
pops home repair? Which account should we take the money
out of? All implicating Joe Biden as being a beneficiary
of these foreign business deals. That's not lawfare, that's equal
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justice and equal application of our laws. And what that
would be within the realm of having fidelity of the Constitution,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
And I think some people misunderstood me.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Oh, absolutely, spot on, and that's right. And if they
have now opened the precedent that former presidents are fair game,
so wouldn't be unprecedented. And let's be honest, the crimes
that the Bidens have engaged in is worse than anything
Donald Trump has ever been accused of. Let's just be
and I don't think Donald Trump has actually ever committed
a crime, especially in this New York nonsense. But what
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the Bidens have done, and we see it in the laptop,
is they were selling out access to America and the
American federal government for foreign cash and then they lied
about it, and they represented foreign agencies and countries, and
you bring up a great point. I think there's a
lot of disgust and there is a pence up anger
in this country that will manifest in November of people
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that did not get the full story of the twenty
twenty election. We must remember, according to Brent Bozell's great group,
the Media Research Center, that a twenty to twenty five
percent of all swing voters would have changed their vote
if they would have heard about the Biden laptop from Hell.
That means that if we would have been able to
get the laptop out back in October of twenty twenty,
and the New York Post didn't lose their Twitter account,
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I lost my Twitter account. We had Twitter do mass censorship,
Facebook do mass censorship. We might not actually have President
Biden right now. And as things stand right now, we're
running against the same man and the same crime family.
And I think there's a lot of people that have
buyer's remorse and also are very upset that a bunch
of oligarchs in Silicon Valley decided that they were not
allowed to hear about this incredible well.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Remember they were pre bunked by the FBI. That was
meeting with them weekly.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Juell Ross.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
That's right, jul Ross had standing room meetings with the FBI,
and it was very interesting. Not only was it Twitter,
but Mark Zuckerberg went on Joe Rogan's programming August of
twenty twenty two and said, oh yeah, bye away. The
FBI visited us many times in the summer of twenty
twenty and told us that something was coming and we
have to be on edge about it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Charlie, we got one hundred and thirty six days until
election Day, eighty seven days till early voting starts in Pennsylvania,
and six days until I think a three on one
debate that the whole country's going to watch.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
We hope you'll come back again.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
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Speaker 4 (30:24):
Thanks so much.
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All Right, News round Up, Information Overload Hour, toll free
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sean if you want to be a part of the program. So,
Louisiana Governor Jeff Flandry Wednesday signed a law requiring that
every classroom that receives public funding, including colleges and universities,
that they display a Protestant translation of the Ten Commandments.
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A number of civil organizations, the ACLU, have vowed to
file a lawsuit to challenge the law. He very proudly
said he looks forward to the legal challenge, wants the
legal challenge, expects the legal challenge. And I guess what
would be in play is the Supreme Court ruling in
nineteen eighty that a Kentucky law requiring the Ten Commandments
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be posted in public classrooms being unconstitutional. All right, this
is a different Supreme Court. Would they change their mind?
Would they change precedent? That's an issue for a lot
of people to discuss and debate. But anyway, here to
discuss and debate, we have Doug shown is back with
US lawyer political analyst Roger Severino, Vice president of Domestic
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Policy at Heritage and Trump's former director of Office of
Civil Rights at the Health the Human Services. Thank you
both for being one of us. Roger, let's start with
you gutsy move on the part of the governor. He
knows there's going to be a legal challenge, he knows
that the argument is going to be separation at church
and state.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What's your reaction.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, this is a new Supreme Court. This is not
the same Supreme Court of thirty years ago that was
much more hostile to religion. Here we had many wins
on religious exercise and on the astablishment clause. What religion
is being established by the Ten Commandments? Exactly? Is it Judaism?
Is it Christianity? And how is having something posted an
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establishment when nobody's required to resign it to believe it.
There's no courage. And in schools across the country, we
have the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag and people
stand up and say one nation under God. Now they're
not required to right, we have Supreme Court saying that
if you have a religious objection or conscientious objection, you
don't have to be forced to do that, but being
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exposed to it, and we have in God, we trust
in our money. The Declaration of Independence speaks about the
Creator and Nature's God. So all these things can be posted,
and they are part of our history, part of our culture.
It is not an endorsement. So I think they're going
to be challenged by the less of course, because they'd
rather have, you know, LGBT flags being posted in our
schools as opposed to the Ten Commandments.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Let's get your take, Doug shown.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So I am probably a little older than everybody, and
I say that proudly because I grew up saying the
pledge of the Allegian, singing the national anthem, and being
committed to the values of the Ten Commandments. And I
didn't have been prouder to grow up in a country
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like that. I don't see this as establishment of religion.
I see it as reaffirmation of our core values, both
as a nation and as a country. And I'm thrilled
by this, And as a Democrat, I wish my party
would embrace principles like this. This is not book burning
or book manning anything like this. This is posting values
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that I think every decent human beings should be exposed to.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Is it fair to say and when some people say it,
I mean, you get the woke mob all you worked
up that America was founded on Judeo Christian principles.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Is that a fair statement, Doug, of course it is.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
It's what I was brought up on, what gave me
pride as a young boy and as a young man,
and gives me pride today. The Judeo Christian ethos is
what I am committed to, what I believe and seawan
Based on our conversations over the years, I know that's
how you've led your life, and it has meant a
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huge amount in my life, my family's life. And I
hope and hope that there is a challenge in the
Supreme Court allows the Ten Commandments to be posted forever more.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Based on the Supreme Court precedent. You don't think that's
going to be a factor because this is a different
Supreme Court, but there always does, at least historically. There
does seem to have always been a lack of desire
among justices to go against long running precedents, and I
would say nineteen eighty decision would probably fit into that category,
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would you agree, Roger?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
The Coach Kennedy case, where was a coach actually prayed
at the fiftyr line at a football public high school.
That case said, we're getting rid of that old standard,
the endorsement, the mixing of religion and the secular sphere
in school. All those cases now have put into question
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because of the new presidents. Count of resources gown away.
Couldn't there be legislative prayer? Can you open up a
town council meeting with prayer? And they talked about the
history and tradition of our country. The Founders would have
no issue whatsoever with the Ten Commandments being posted in
the school, not at all. Look at the McGuffey readers
that they had for decades that had religious principles, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But they did have the Lord's Prayer, the Ten Commandments
in schools all the way up until these historic decisions
in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Did they not prayer in school?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Oh yeah, they absolutely did.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And we never evolved into a state run religion, did we.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
No. Now there are some limits, and that really comes
down to corrosion. Right, there's no corresion going on here
if they simply post the Ten Commandments at the school,
just like posting a flag, right, it's laden with meeting
of course, and it's important, but it's historical, and the
values that are included in there aren't just religious right
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dalshall not kill, Dawsha not both witness you want our
kids lying and killing and stealing and et cetera, and
coveting no. And these were part of the Judeo Christian
principles that were part of the founding, And since the
founder would have no problem with it, I think the
Supreme Court would be much more comfortable with it.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Now your take, Doug, do you agree with that legal analysis?
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I do agree with the legal analysis. And having said
the pledge of allegiance, the Lord's player and the like,
I said this as a proud Jewish American who went
to Sunday School was far mits. But I didn't take
this as establishment of religion. I took it as a
reassertion and reaffirmation of our core values, which I think,
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frankly today we need more than ever. So I hope
and pray that we get a good ruling from the
Supreme Court that makes all of us come together around
values that are attorneys.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
We certainly need eternal, eternal values, don't we. It seems
like we've we've come a long way in going in
the other direction. And I I'm not saying that I
would ever endorse or support in any way a state
rum religion of any kind. However, I think the idea
of values is is something that's that's basically been completely
eliminated from our school system. You know, what were the
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top problems in the years leading up to the Supreme
Court decisions on prayer in school and and the Bible
reading actually took place in school, believe it or not. Uh,
you know, what were the top problems in our school system?
You know, talking in class, chewing gum and running in
the halls. What's the top problems today? Oh, let's see, Uh,
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you know, murder, violence, drug use. I mean, it's been
such a dramatic shift in the culture. You can't even
put a your you can't even put a long, a
long enough list together.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's gotten so bad.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Roger, Yeah, our school systems are in shambles, right, And
the Supreme Court has actually said now you can't discriminate
against religious schools because of their religious identity. That's another
change that's been welcome and good. There's been hostility towards
religious values, towards religious people, towards religious schools and that's
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been part of unfortunate, a dark chapter of American history.
And I mean Catholic schools were targeted because they were
Catholic early and you know, in the eighteen fifties and
sixties on and now secularists have taken on that original
mantle to use what work called blamee amendments to go
after school funding. This Supreme Court has rolled that back
and said you cannot discriminate against religious schools, religious institutions.
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They should have a seat at the table like everybody else.
And in particularly they're really good at what they do.
They serve inner city core and offer it at lower prices.
They have excellent value formation. These are good things that
a secular minded government, even that from the left, should
be you. And this has such good effects on people
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that we absolutely can't discriminate against it and exclude it
and treat it like a secondhand smoke and no kid
could ever be exposed to it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
How do we evolve from talking in class and chewing
them and running in the halls is our top problems
to the problems we face today.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Doug shown the.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Breakdown of discipline Sean the elimination in the inner city
of religious based educational like Catholic schools, the absence of
a Boucher system, the absence of choice in schools, the
lack of competition, the lack of discipline, the lack of decency,
and the kind of values we grew up with are gone.
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And it is to our detriment that that is the.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Case as a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
As you look at trump derangement syndrome, I mean, it's
a look at the paranoia that emerged this week. You know,
Chrissy tigue and Trump's going to be investigating her. Rachel
Maddow thinks she's going to be sent to a camp.
Joeli's Behart thinks for shows going to be canceled. AOC
thinks she's going to be jailed. I mean, they just
seem to have lost their mind. And a party that
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you know, used to have reasonable people in it, like
Joe Lieberman, is no longer exists. I don't I don't
see anybody that resembles a moderate Democrat in Washington today.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I don't either, Sean. I'm a lonely man. And while.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You still have friends, Doug, and there's still an invitation,
you're always welcome to become a conservative or become a Republican.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I'm sure, and I'm an assertive and aggressive moderate, and
I think there's plenty of room for us in American society.
But the way the left operates, if you do not
adhere to their tenants and principles, you're demonized. And that
to me, is again contrary to the values I grew
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up with, contrary to what I think we ought to
be teaching kids, and what really creates a corrosive society. Son,
and then it sends me deeply.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
All right, quick break more with our attorneys, Doug Shown
and Roger Severino. We'll get to your calls on the
other side.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
All right, We.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Continue with Roger Severino and Doug Shown eight hundred nine
to four one.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Shawn is on numbers. We continue this Friday.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I mean, I think this party has become so radicalized
that they can't see straight anymore. And I don't think
there's any greater example of that than the weaponization of
justice and nobody flinching when mar A Lago's a billion
dollar property value at eight million, that's perfectly okay, or
a novel political theory to go after Donald Trump for
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an eight year old legal non disclosure agreement that was
that was put together by a lawyer and labeled as
a legal expense up charged to a federal elections crime,
and everybody thinking, Oh, he's a convicted felon in a
venue that hates Donald Trump, brought by a DA that
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pledged to go after Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Your reaction, Roger, Well.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
The weaponization of DOJ has reached absurd proportions. And the
main point is if a former president of the United
States can be treated this way with kangaroo courts, it
could happen to any of us. There's now a political
enemies list that's being generated by the Biden administration. And
I don't know if you've heard of the story of
doctor Ayton him a whistleblower who actually reported on potentially
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illegal transgender surgeries of miners in a Texas hospital, and
the Biden administration has sent out the FBI to go
get him and indicted him for a potential hippo violations HIPPA.
I used to be at the Hippos, the nation's hippo regulator.
Under Trump, is this absurd weaponization that they're looking at
every single way to go after people who disagree with
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their political agenda. This is a mockery of the justice system.
It starts with Trump, but it ends with all of us,
and Doug.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
How does this end?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I mean, now that the laptop was very real, and
that we know that Joe light about it and Hunter
led about it, and fifty one former Intel officials that
knew nothing about it just outright lied because they wanted
Joe elected, and the FBI had validated its authenticity in
March of twenty twenty. But yet they were meeting weekly
with big Tech and warning them and pre bunking it
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by saying that, well, you're likely to be victims of disinformation.
It may be about Trump or I'm sorry, maybe about
Hunter or Joe Biden. And sure enough, when the story
breaks in the New York Post, which they knew would
break because they knew Rudy Giuliani's attorney at a copy
of it, and when Twitter and Facebook asked specifically if
the New York Post story is true, they wouldn't give
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him an answer. Sounds like they were putting their center
blocks on the scales of an election to me, all
of them, by lying.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
To my way of thinking, showing the best answer to
that question. If we have a debate on the twenty seventh.
Hopefully they will be future debates as well, and those
questions should be vetted, answered and raised with Joe Biden.
And I think there's nothing wrong with that. There are
tough questions for Donald Trump. They should be asked, tough
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questions for Joe Biden. And as we sit here today,
I can't tell you that what you're saying about the
laptop or the fifty one intelligence agents is wrong. I
look forward to hearing what Joe Biden has to say,
but our democracy has strengthened well.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Joe Biden better be careful because his own son says
he gives half his income to pops. That would be
the foreign money that he's making, and ten percent goes
to the big guy, and that he lied to the
American people, according to Devin Archer, appreciate you both. Roger
Severino Doug showan thank you eight hundred and ninety four
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all around the country. Right Wing Revolution, how to beat
the Woke and save the West. You know, and I
have never been, as I've said many times, this afraid
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about the direction of this country. I have never been
more concerned about the state of the world because we
have a president that has abdicated his role as president,
being the leader of the free world, and even has
gone as far as to surrender in the war against
radical Islamic terrorism. Never thought that would happen in our
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lifetime when you get to values and the culture wars
that are going on in the country. You know, look
at what we heard in just the last week week
and a half from the radicalized left. I mean, we
first heard conspiracy theorist and Rachel Maddow, you know, express
real worry and concern that Donald Trump, if he's elected,
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is going to put her in a camp. I'm not
even sure Donald Trump knows who Rachel Maddow is. You know,
that comment was echoed in an exchange when Matta went
on that hard hitting news show, The View with Joyla's
Behar and this is what ensued.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
You said recently that you thought that you, as an
outspoken critic, could be a target yourself. Some people think
that sounds all dramatic, but I'm right there with you.
I think that he is so vindictive that he will
go after however he has to do the irs, maybe
or even through sponsors to get us off the air.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
Maybe or you I think it's bad to have somebody saying,
give me as much power as you can in this
country so I can use it to go after other Americans.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
And then Chrissy Teagan the actress again, I take doubt
she's on Donald Trump's radar making similar comments. And then
nobody can out do AOC who's thinking Donald Trump, if
he's elected, he may put me in jail on everything.
Speaker 9 (18:56):
Listen, if Donald Trump wins, we are looking at the
potential dissolution of democracy in the United States of America.
It sounds nuts, but like I wouldn't be surprised that
this guy through me in jail.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It sounds nuts. She should have stopped there because it
is nuts. And even Nicole Wallace, you may recall Nicole
Wallace help run John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin's campaign,
even she is expressing similar sentiments.
Speaker 10 (19:26):
Listen, I've seen that past a bunch of times, but
it landed very differently this year, because depending on what
appens in November, seven months from right now, just time
next year, I might not be sitting here. I might
not be a White House correspondent's dinner or free press.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Maybe what they're really fearing is that which they have
done to conservatives, because it's people like Rogers Stone and
Paul Manifort, more recently Petere Navarro who's been in jail
the last few months, people like Steve Bannon that's going
to jail, what they have done with lawfair and the
weaponization of our justice system to Donald Trump. Maybe they
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fear that the Pandora's box they opened would be used
against them. Maybe that's what they really fear. Nor can
they run on are you better off than you are
four years ago? Anyway, we welcome back to the program.
It's been a while. Charlie kirk. He is the founder
of Turning Point USA as a brand new book out
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right Wing Revolution, How to Beat the Woke, Save the West,
Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com and bookstores around the country. Charlie,
great to have you back.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
How you been sean great honor, Thanks so much, And
that was a great intro. And I share that concern.
I've not been around that long, only about twelve years
in this space, and I'm thirty years old, but I
share that concern. It is an existential crisis against our country.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
By the way, you're making me feel really old. Thanks
a lot, Charlie, thanks so much compliment.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I don't have the wisdom in years that you have,
so I'm saying, have a lot to learn. But I boy,
I'm concerned about America. My goodness.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
But I know something.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I mean, your star has really taken off. And the
thing that interests me about turning point is I've watched
from afar and I'm very aware of what you've been doing.
And by the way, congratulations to you. I tip my
hat to you and all of your success. It's been
hard to earn. You work and hard, and you're reaching
a lot of people. But your original goal was to
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reach younger people. And we do see a phenomenon that
is emerging in this election, according to the polls that
African Americans, Hispanic Americans and young people. And you hear
Carville ranting and raving about young people that they are
abandoning the Democratic Party. Do you believe that's real?
Speaker 6 (21:40):
I do, And you know we're working really hard on
that in the last twelve years and even covering this
super well. Yeah, look, we don't know to what extent
it will actually manifest in this election, and we talked
about this in the book, but there certainly is a
course correction. Younger voters are seeing that they cannot afford
a home under the Biden economy. One amazing number sew
that we see to keep on repeating and repeating. According
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to zillo dot com, when Donald Trump left the Oval office,
it required seventy one thousand dollars a year to purchase
a single family home in this country.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Now it is.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
One hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a year. So
let's say our a twenty six year old millennial, you
just got married and you want to settle down and
start a family. To buy a single family home, it's
fifty thousand dollars a year more. It requires to just
be able to get what you're you know, the parent,
our parents' generation was able to enjoy. And so they're
looking at Donald Trump and they remember back to the
Trump economy, things were much easier, more affordable, and the
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American dream was more alive. And so younger voters are certainly,
for the first time since nineteen eighty eight, looking where
they actually might favor. The Republican candidate. Joe Biden is
pushing forward an extreme ideological agenda that is filled with
abstractions and lives and inconsistencies. And one other element of
this is number one, President Trump is running an excellent campaign.
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I think that Susie Wiles and James Blair, they're doing
a great job of putting Donald Trump in friendly environments
but also difficult environments where he has to sometimes joust
with podcast hosts like Logan Paul. But second element is
that the convictions have probably hurt Donald Trump a little
bit with older voters, but they've helped exceedingly with younger voters.
He's looked as the rebel, as the man who is
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fighting the system, and so that comes with some difficult
territory to navigate. But all things being equal, we are
seeing record gains of Donald Trump expanding the tent and
opening up the opportunity to do historically well with black,
Hispanics and younger voters. It's exciting and no one would
have predicted it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
When I saw him a week and a half ago,
he was about as dialed in as I have ever
seen him. And you probably don't remember this, but back
in twenty fifteen and sixteen when I supported President Trump,
I mean you had people like Glenn Beck and oh
so many, but Ben Shapiro by the way, people that
I like, I want to be very clear, but they
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were beating the crap out of me on a daily
basis because I was supporting Trump because I knew we
could win, and his ideas were out of the box
and it was taking conservatism to a new level. And
I think I was proven right. I think his presidency
was extraordinarily successful. I think his plans now would be
similarly be extraordinarily successful. What is your reaction when I
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played the tapes that I just played, or the predictions.
Matout thinks she'll be in a camp and an aoc
think she'll be in jail, and Joyless Bahart things she'll
lose her show, and Nicole Wallace thinks she may lose
her show. What's the reaction to all that? Because that
goes to the heart of your book about wokeness.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
That's right, And first, Sean, did you deserve a con
of credit. You were really early, earlier than me with Trump,
by the way, and you were just so you saw
the whole thing. You saw the working class, the muscular class,
how Donald Trump could expand the tent.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And by the way, Charlie, you know what it was,
the forgotten men and women in this country. And you
know what this election is about the same thing.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Yeah, and you saw the whole thing that the muscular class,
the forgotten men and woman, the plumber, the electrician, the
web the police officer, the firefighter, and you saw it.
And many of us were late to the later than
you to kind of see how Donald Trump could rebuild
that Reagan coalition. Look, my reaction first and foremost is
they think he's gonna win. They wouldn't be talking like
that if the inner chatter of the Democrat Party was
(25:16):
super confident in Joe Biden. Now I don't necessarily believe
that we're one hundred percent gonna win. I give us
a fifty to fifty shot. But the Democrats are talking
openly and they're almost lamenting, as if you know they're
going to be sent to the gulags. But number three,
I mean, just it is. It is extraordinary to hear
them say this. There's no basiss in it. By what
means would that actually happen? But are they terrified that
(25:37):
that there actually might be equal justice in this country
at some point? We do not want the weaponization of anything,
to be perfectly clear, But are they afraid that they
might have reached too far. Are they afraid that they
have gone and used the system of justice against media figures,
as you mentioned, as against people that might fight back
against the regime, And so I try not to take
it too seriously. These are very neurotic people. They spend
(26:00):
all day long worrying about Donald Trump, and they've made
their entire life obsessed about it. And I got to
be honest, Sean, you popularized that term Trump derangement syndrome.
At first, I was like, Oh, that's a little cute.
I don't know if I like it. What an accurate term.
It is a real clinical problem TDS. And these people
they've let it dominate their life, They've let it destroy
their relationships, and they're kind of like husks of their
(26:22):
former selves. I mean, Rachel Maddow's programmed this last week
was so sad to watch. I mean, she could she
be any more apocalyptic? It was like watching Greta Thunberg
on cable TV. She said, this is going to be
the end of politics as we know it. And we
talk about this in the book Right Wing Revolution, where
it is always the end of the world crisis for
the American left, And I think eventually that hysteria will
(26:44):
run out. I mean, growing up, we're always tall told
the story of the Boy who Cried Wolf. I think
the American people are no longer going to fall with
the mass hysteria, the madness, and they're going to want
to go back to stability, order and America's dominance in
the world. And I believe that is Donald Trum.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know, it's interesting when I interviewed the President, I
asked him about the issue of the weaponization of our
justice system and whether or not he would ever want
to do to them, because that's what the left talks about,
that he'd be involved in retribution. And I realized that
a lot of people miss my point. They said, Hannity,
why are you pressing the president on this? This is
(27:22):
so wrong of you. They of course they should happen.
I'm like, no, conservatives have fidelity to our constitution. But
for example, that doesn't mean now that the very real
laptop that we were lied to about in the weeks
leading up to the twenty twenty election, well, now that
it's been authenticated and validated, which the FBI did in
March of twenty twenty. Putting that aside for a minute, Hunter.
(27:45):
Biden implicates his own father, doesn't he when he says
that half his income goes to Pops when they talk
about ten percent for the big guy, when he's asking
their financial guy, well, which account should we pay for
pops home repair? Which account should we take the money
out of? All implicating Joe Biden as being a beneficiary
of these foreign business deals. That's not lawfare, that's equal
(28:08):
justice and equal application of our laws. And what that
would be within the realm of having fidelity of the Constitution,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
And I think some people misunderstood me.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Oh, absolutely, spot on, and that's right. And if they
have now opened the precedent that former presidents are fair game,
so wouldn't be unprecedented. And let's be honest, the crimes
that the Bidens have engaged in is worse than anything
Donald Trump has ever been accused of. Let's just be
and I don't think Donald Trump has actually ever committed
a crime, especially in this New York nonsense. But what
(28:40):
the Bidens have done, and we see it in the laptop,
is they were selling out access to America and the
American federal government for foreign cash and then they lied
about it, and they represented foreign agencies and countries, and
you bring up a great point. I think there's a
lot of disgust and there is a pence up anger
in this country that will manifest in November of people
(29:00):
that did not get the full story of the twenty
twenty election. We must remember, according to Brent Bozell's great group,
the Media Research Center, that a twenty to twenty five
percent of all swing voters would have changed their vote
if they would have heard about the Biden laptop from Hell.
That means that if we would have been able to
get the laptop out back in October of twenty twenty,
and the New York Post didn't lose their Twitter account,
(29:21):
I lost my Twitter account. We had Twitter do mass censorship,
Facebook do mass censorship. We might not actually have President
Biden right now. And as things stand right now, we're
running against the same man and the same crime family.
And I think there's a lot of people that have
buyer's remorse and also are very upset that a bunch
of oligarchs in Silicon Valley decided that they were not
allowed to hear about this incredible well.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Remember they were pre bunked by the FBI. That was
meeting with them weekly.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Juell Ross.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
That's right, jul Ross had standing room meetings with the FBI,
and it was very interesting. Not only was it Twitter,
but Mark Zuckerberg went on Joe Rogan's programming August of
twenty twenty two and said, oh yeah, bye away. The
FBI visited us many times in the summer of twenty
twenty and told us that something was coming and we
have to be on edge about it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Charlie, we got one hundred and thirty six days until
election Day, eighty seven days till early voting starts in Pennsylvania,
and six days until I think a three on one
debate that the whole country's going to watch.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
We hope you'll come back again.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Thank you, Thanks Shan, You're the best.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn is a number if
you want to be a part of the program, All right,
Mike co Coobe, Tammy, Bruce, Alena, how about Alan Dershwitz,
Ram Paul Tonight on the immigration disaster and a debate,
Rachel Kompos Stuffy and shown Mike Rowe a friend of ours.
All coming up nine Eastern Say DVR, Monday through Friday,
nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
We'll see you tonight. Back here on Monday. Have a
great weekend. See that
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