Guest Host Jonathan Gilliam

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be working very hard to get something past in the Senate.
There's a very good chance it won't get past. It's
up to the Democrats. So it's really the Democrat shutdown
because we've done our thing. Because I don't know exactly
what they're investigating. The questions about Hillary Clinton and the
Steel dossier strike me as more of the same. I
didn't learn anything new in there. Maybe they did, holding

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on freaking news and more bold and inspired solutions for America.
This is Jonathan Gillham, your resident Navy Seal, better Air Marshall,
security contractor, and FBI special Agent. That may be the
last time I ever ever say that on this show.
Hopefully you know who I am when I come in

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and fill in for Sean quite often during the Christmas vacation.
As you can tell, my voice is a little scratchy,
but I like to think it's more like berry white
today because I over Christmas. Yes, that's right, I slept
about sixteen hours each day because I was on prescription
cough medicine. And now I'm back, I'm healthy, and I'm

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ready to talk about some incredible news today, some stuff
that's been going on. I mean, we all know. You
know what's interesting about the news is things happen, and
we're all it's not a surprise anymore, how vicious the
news is or how ridiculous it is in the way
that it's reported. I'm sitting right here looking at an
article on foxnews dot com about Jim Carrey and how

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he is calling Trump supporters loyal zombies. This is coming
from a guy who was the biggest robot and says
everything that he believes, he thinks, he's enlightened, and everything
that he is saying is a complete repeat of what
other people say before him. And that's the way it
is twenty eighteen. If I have to put into a

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category when it comes to liberals in the way, and
I hate saying this, folks. I hate saying it because
I did you know, I've been doing my own show
in the evenings on social media called the Experts for
a long time, and a friend of mine's mom or
aunt was watching one time. I think he was her aunt,
and she said she and she's liberal. They live in California,
and she said that she didn't really appreciate the fact

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that I kept milking in liberal ideology with leftists. And
I get that. I actually do get that, and I
appreciate the fact that she said that. And I actually
asked her to tell her and to watch again so
that I could make sure that she, you know, didn't
feel ostracized, so I could explain that to her. But
this is what I have to explain to liberals, not

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just leftists. I have to explain this to liberals this year,
is that twenty eighteen actually is the year when the
nonsense of the leftist, the ideologies of the left, the tactics,
techniques and procedures, if you will, of the left, came

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into full swing and has overtaken the liberals and their
minds and the way that they approach things. Now, there's
there's plenty of ways to solve most problems in the
world and in this country. Quite frankly, I'm more concerned
about this country right now. But I don't expect everybody
to come at it like saying I belong to this

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political party. I only believe in these solutions. That is nonsense.
All right. You're never going to find in any operational capacity,
whether it's in military, in law enforcement, or in business
or in medicine, you're never gonna hear somebody say it
has to be treated this way, the operation has to
be carried out this way. It must because that's the
way we believe. I mean, if you find wars like that,

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or if you treat diseases like that, or if you
have a doctor that you go to and he says, well,
I belong to this train of thought and this is
the only thing that we the only way that we
treat this. You're in You need to get away from
that doctor. And the same thing goes in military and
law enforcement. You have to be flexible. And that's the
problem I have with political parties is the fact that

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they're not flexible. We believe in this, and we believe
in this, and they never go outside the box. I
most everything I do is outside the box, and I'm
okay with that. And so what's happened now in twenty
eighteen to the left is that people who I've known
for a long time who are liberal have now they

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have literally subscribed to the mindset of these far leftists,
and it's become mainstream, so mainstream in their terminology that
it's leaked its way over into the right. And I
even hear people coming back, veterans coming back from overseas

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looking at the news and saying, well, you know, in
the case, we'll talk about Eddie Gallagher, Navy seal who's
been what I believe is wrongly charged and held in
the brig in California since September eleventh. Why would they
arrest a guy in September eleventh. We're gonna talk more
about this later, but it's gotten to a point now

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where the terminology for people coming back, and I talked
to people in the military. I've had people calling on
radio shows and they say, well, that was a noncombatant.
That was a civilian. We're talking about an isis a
member of ISIS who everybody else that he was fighting
with was killed except for this particular person, and they're

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calling the prosecution in the case is calling that person
a noncombatant. I mean, this is the this is leftist ideology,
and it's gotten a point where even not just liberals,
but conservatives are using these terms. The media is using
these terms. In twenty eighteen has been the progression of

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this to the point where this nonsensical type of thinking
that's on the far far left, further than anybody that
I know, this radical thinking on the left has leaked
its way into mainstream terminology. And twenty nineteen has to

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be the year where the citizen read of this country says,
all right, listen, we got to We've got to start
looking for effective solutions, and we have to stop. We
have to stop allowing radicals and radical ideologies to secrete

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their terminology and their rage into our minds. Media needs
to really clamp down on this stuff. You know, I
love Drudge and Foxnews dot Com and the way they
treat For instance, now we have a mask killing. A
lot of times they will not say the name of

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the killer. I agree with that. Well, I think they
need to start doing the same thing with stories like
about Jim Carrey. You know, don't even report that story
Jim Carrey. Listen, it may be a little salacious to
put it on the headline, but don't put it up there.
You're gonna get just as many cliques people are gonna watch,
just as many shows. Just leave that stuff off there,

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because you know what Jim Carrey and so many of
these people on the left are irrelevant. What Jim Carrey
wakes up and thinks about or does from the time
he wakes up to the time he goes to bed
makes no difference in your life or mine. And I
think two nineteen should be the year when we finally
say enough is enough, no more of this spin that

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gets people so frustrated. Let two and nineteen be the
year where certain media outlets. We can never count on
CNN or MSNBC or these other outlets to ever do this,
but certain news outlets should say, okay, enough, let's do
what we can. Forget about whether or not something's fake
news or real. Let's stop putting stuff out there, printing it,

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putting it online. That's going to enrage people. That is
just opinion. For people who don't affect the country, what's over,
like Jim Carrey, don't even put it on there. And
then for the people, for the citizens of this country,
what you have to do is start turning that off.
Don't click on it, don't look at it, don't even

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worry about what the view said or Joey Bayhart or
Jim Carrey or any of these people don't. It doesn't
matter in your life. Literally, in the time you could
click on that story and read it, you literally have
lost I want you to think about this. You have
lost time in your life that you could go out
and actually do something, touch somebody's life, pet a dog, smile,

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take hot bath. I don't know anything that brings you
joy or helps other people. You've wasted it by sitting
and looking at something you know next time instead of
looking at a story about Jim Carrey or somebody like that.
If you're on Twitter or something, just tweet out. Everybody
has a nice day. You're never alone. And if you

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have the pressures, it is tweets something out like that,
I'm here for you and and just go on with
your life. Don't worry about what these people think and say,
you know, as having an incredible conversation with several people
last night, I got to see my good buddy Louie
Gomer after he was hosted this show yesterday. I love
that guy. If all people in Washington, d C. Were

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like Louie Gomer, uh, you know what would be the case.
Wouldn't be hearing about politics every day. We'd just we'd
just be living and having you know, solutions in government,
there wouldn't be a shutdown, But unfortunately we don't have that.
That's not Louie is the exception, not the norm. I
got to have a great conversation with him last night

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and h and Kylie and Kerry Pickett, who's an amazing reporter,
and I was talking about how I wrote a story
for Hannity dot com while back about mainstream media and
they have no more right to be in the White
House than we do. You can't just go up to

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the White House and say, hey, I wanna I want
to ask some president some questions. You go and try
to do that, see what happens. You're gonna be a
questioned for being crazy. You're not gonna get in there,
and they're not gonna give you your own room. Right.
Or you could say I own a big business, Right,
I own a big business. I'm an important person. I'd
like to go in there and ask questions about the economy.

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You're not gonna get to do that. So why should
a media outlet that is nothing more than an information
collection business be allowed in the White House, be allowed
in the Defense Department, be allowed in any in the
State Department, in any of these federal agencies. Well, here's
what they say. I'm not even gonna say his name.
But the knucklehead who yelled at at Sarah Huckaby Sanders

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telling her she need to do her job one day
when she cut the press conference short. I tweeted out
to him. He tweets back at me with some asinine
response about how I don't know what I'm talking about. Well,
I'll tell you I do know what I'm talking about, okay,
because that guy, like most people in media, have never
done anything more than pick up a pen, go to college.

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Some of them haven't even gone to college, and secrete
their opinion everywhere that they can. There's no reporting anymore,
very very little. Catherine Harriage is probably one of the
few Harry Picketts at one. But what most journalists do
now is they report as per their ideology. They don't
look for the truth. They look for the truth from

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their perspective. And so they are companies that collect information
and report information from their ideological advantage. And if it
was true, seekers true Americans that just want it answers.
I can understand people being able to ask and seek

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for questions, but here's the reality about media. Okay, this
is the way media works. Majority of information that is
collected by journalists and reported is through sources and methods.
They have ways of collecting information. They scour the Internet,
they scour social media, They collect bits and pieces until
they put together what they think is a picture of something.

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They have sources all through government. They get information leaked
to them by people that are loyal to them. And
what you see them doing is putting together pictures that
they believe are the truth, or that they want to
other people to see so they'll believe it's the truth.
But regardless, they use sources and methods. Sitting in an

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agency and sitting in a room in an agency does nothing,
very very little in most cases. And it would be
much better if the president across the board in the
White House, in the DoD and the State Department and
all these CEI never really gives briefs, but in all

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these agencies, if they say no more press credentials, what
we're gonna do from now on? And I know because
I did a show every night for over two years,
still do it every now and then, called the experts.
I simulcast it through restream dot com, on Facebook, Twitter,
and YouTube every night. I was getting up to reaching

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a million people on Facebook. And I'm just some guy
who put together the stuff by learning it in my apartment.
The agencies and their press secretaries should be doing this.
Just stream your press conferences. Allow people to sign up,

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and I'm gonna just talking about the media. Allow people
to sign up, and then they are held to a
set of standards, and if they violate those standards, they're
kicked off, never to come back on. But they can
ask all the questions that they want. Then the press
secretaries can sit there and look through and answer the questions.

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And then if media wants to press them further when
they when the president moves from one place to another,
then they can ask them those specific questions. But buying
too large. Like I said before, most of the reporting
doesn't come from these press conferences. It comes from the
sources and methods that they use, mostly sources. This is
an easy solution, a very simple solution, and one that technically, technologically,

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we are capable of doing. Now, So folks, folks listen,
I'm gonna take a break. I'm gonna come back and
talk some more about this. But this really does enrage me.
I think twenty nineteen could be a year where we
start putting the pressure on government and on news agencies

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to start giving us the news, start giving us the answers,
don't give us the spin. Listen. You can find me
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from a good buddy, Sean Handy on the Sean Hannity
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three two six. Folks, listen, I really want you to concentrate,
and I want you to think about why we go
on another break. I want you to think about the
fact that your life and how much of your life
in twenty eighteen, how much of the anger that you felt,

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how much of the time that was consumed in your life,
was done so because of the emotion that media spends
up on a daily basis, because of the way politicians
and media have come together to create echo chambers. Think
about that. We're gonna come back and I'm gonna talk
some more about this. You don't want to step away

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eight hundred and nine four one, seven, three two six,
eight hundred nine for one. Sean, listen, I'm a little
fired up today, folks. I talked about this earlier in

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the week on another show on Sirius XM Patriot Channel.
And the twenty sixth of December is always the day
when things get really get It's not necessarily January first
or January second. When you go back to work after
New Year's The reality is, folks, is that the day
after Christmas, things change in this world, in this country,

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things go back. You know, you, I challenge you next
year if you can do this, if you live in
the city, get up, go out, get some coffee and
sit and watch how ridiculous people act there. A lot
of them are rushing to get back to work. They're
picking up their routines again. People are aren't watching out

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where they're going again. They're back in their phones. They're
already forgotten about their presence and the family that they
have talked to, or the arguments they have, and they're
back in the grind. People having road rage again. It's
pretty amazing to watch, actually, and it's a shame that
we we can say that the Christmas season is great.

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And I'm Christian, so I you know, and I love
celebrating the birth of Jesus and what it all stands for.
But what I don't like is this shift, this robotic
shift every year into the giving mode or the good mode.
And if you've noticed how great things work in the
month of December, the way people get along and they

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do things for each other, I mean there's still bad
things that happen. You know, but overall people soften up
a little bit and they start to think a little
bit further beyond their own personal bounds. And then when
December twenty six yells around, boom, it changes again. And
I kept thinking about this, as I've talked about this extensively,

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I kept thinking about again, how two thousand and nineteen
could be different. You know, as the media and politicians
enrage us on a daily basis, was ridiculous reporting. Here's
another thing, ridiculous reporting about things like President Trump goes
to see the troops in Iraq and then over in Germany.

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Fantastic if that was Obama of the media be going crazy.
But what do they do seeing him comes out and
says that he broke the law by signing mega hats
make America Great Again, hats that the troops were handing.
I mean, come on, now, you're you're gonna go out
to the president for signing a hat. This is how

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ridiculous that they've gotten you cannot I challenge you. Everybody
talks about the fact when I host I've had several
people tweeting here they say they should do a drinking
game every time I mentioned my book. They should take
a shot. Don't do that. I'm not recommending that because
I'm gonna mention my book a lot. Right, I don't
have my own show. I'm only on here for a
limited amount of time. It's very important. I'm not just

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saying this to get book sales. This is my This
is something that I have offered the country in parts
of the world, but the country where you can gain
empowerment and knowledge. Okay, that's why I push this book
so much. I have a limited amount of time to
push it, and I really do want you to get
it so you can see what can happen. But getting
back to this, when I challenge you to turn on

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CNN or MSNBC, and I had a Twitter and tweet
out a second ago saying, why don't you ever criticize Fox?
I criticize Fox plenty. It should say, whoever this is
only listens to this show so they can criticize whatever
Sean says. Right, But I criticize Fox too. I just
said earlier, I don't think Fox should have stories about

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Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey's irrelevant. I don't think that they
should put up stories about how ridiculous of an accusation
at CNN says that President Trump signing megahts is illegal.
That's not even really news. And I challenge you, you
really want to know that the extreme, how extreme this
has gotten. Turn on seeing in, turn on MSNBC for

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two minutes and count how many times they say Trump.
They're not going to be covering any other stories. Maybe
if it's a breaking news story, they'll hit it for
a second, then they're going to go right back to Trump.
It's ridiculous. And people that turn that on and leave
that on in the background, you are. If you're liberal

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and you're listen this show and you're angry right now,
you have been indoctrine, indoctrinated. You have been consumed by
media because there's really no reason for us to be
this angry. There's no reason for you to be that
angry at President Trump if you take a step back.
And I've had people that I know try to argue

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with me about this, and I say, take a step
back for a second. First of all, the anger, it
doesn't the president after president after president. People get so angry.
Bush was in office all they're so angry. Obama's in office. Oh,
they're so angry. There's very little outward things that are
going to affect you on a daily basis by the President.

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It's really the Congress and their inability to act. That's
really what does affect you on a daily basis more
than anything. You think the shutdown is caused because of
President Trump. President Trump maybe sticking by his gun and
saying I'll take the hit on this shutdown, But the
shutdown is happening because he's standing his ground for national security,

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and it's the Congress that's refusing to act on national security.
It's Congress. You listen to go back and listen to
that press conference that they had in the Oval Office
when the President did what I think is one of
the most remarkable things in leadership that I've seen in
my lifetime in politics. One where he brought in a

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Congressional leader and a Senate leader and said we're gonna
do this now, We're gonna ener this out now. And
they said, well, we need to do this in private,
and he kept saying that the people want transparency. He
knew there's nothing classified about a wall a wall. If
you put a wall across the southern border of the country,
how are you going to classify that if it's not classified,

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talk about it in front of the people, say why
you don't want it, Say why you do want it,
flesh it out. And he did that, and what they
do They were shettle shocked. They didn't know how to act,
and I loved it. And then he turns around and
he stole their fire because he said, if you don't

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give us what we want on the wall, I will
shut the government down. One thing I think we can
agree on is we shouldn't shut down the government over
a dispute. And you want to shut it down. You're
talking about the last time, Chuck, you shut it down. No, no, no,
and then you any time quickly. And I don't want
to do what you did twenty times you have called for.
I will shut down the government if I don't get

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my will none of us. If you want to know
something you said, you want to put them who said it,
I'll take it. Okay, good, you know what I'll say. Yes,
if we don't get what we want one way or
the other, whether it's through you, through a military, through
anything you want to call, I will shut down the
government absolute. And I am proud. And if he disagree,
I am proud to shut down the government for border

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security each other because the people of this country don't
want criminals and people that have lots of problems and
drugs pouring into our country. So I will take the
mental I will be the one to shut it down.
I'm not gonna blame you for it. The last time
you shut it down, it didn't work. I will take
the method of shutting down and I'm going to shut
it down for border but we believe you shouldn't shut

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it down. Another thing that see that, folks, is true leadership.
That's own that's owning the leadership position, that's taking it
and saying, listen, this has to be done. If you
don't want to do it, I'm going to stand against you.
And I had a big argument with somebody the other
day in the office because they kept saying that all

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the president has to do is compromise on something and
the Democrats will come around, And I'm like, what world
do you live in that you actually think that leftists
in government work like that. They don't work like that.
They want it their way because they want to change
the country. They want to change the constitution. So they're

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not going to bend. The only thing that they're going
to do is give in when the pressure is put
upon them, because if they risk losing a position or
a seat in government, they risk the possibility of changing
the constitution and the way things are. So there is
a point that the president can take this and just

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like that press conference in the Oval Office, if he
continues to put the pressure on them without regard of
hurting their feelings, they will fold. They don't know what
to do. You could see that in the way that
they reacted in the Oval Office. They just wanted to
get out of there so bad. They wanted to crawl

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out of his skin. If Chuck Schumer could have crawled
out of his skin and shed his skin like a snake.
Not say anything about Chuck Schumer, but he would have.
I'm not sure he hasn't shed his skin before, but
he would have. So, folks, this is the year two nineteen.
We oh, You're gonna have plenty of shows where they

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talk about what you know, the past year, the reflection
on the year. We're going to talk this show about
what two nineteen should be. What two and eighteen was
is in the past. What two and nineteen should be
is the American people standing together. Maybe you're liberal, maybe

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you're conservative, I can guarantee you if you get rid
of the anger, if you stop with the nonsense about
President Trump is just messing everything up. No he's not.
If you look at his record, it's really good. And
if you look at where the problems are coming from,
it's the hundreds and hundreds of people that show up

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in Congress to do a job, and they're controlled by
a very small minority of people that have all the power.
That's the one thing about seniority in Congress. It literally
allows people to gain so much power that they don't
allow things to be done. And that's the problem with Congress.

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They don't get anything done because people don't want it
to get done. So you need to realize that, folks,
let go of the anger, start looking at reality, stop
listening to the media, and start stop getting spun up.
And I guarantee if you sit down, it's just like
you're gonna play a board game and you guys actually
take something like immigration. But you got to have all

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the facts. You can't just sit down over opinion and say, well,
I think that people should be able to come here,
and we should be able to take all the people
who were hurting and poor in their world. It's not realistic.
You need to sit down with the facts and then
when you sit down, you say how can we fix this?
You're gonna be surprised that the compromises and the different
ideas that will actually work. And also something small things

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that don't ever get changed in your life. You can
apply the same thing, the same type of stepping forward
and look at your city and you're gonna see, folks,
things can get fixed, they just don't get fixed. And
so twenty nineteen should be the year where Americans get together. Listen,
social media is amazing. If there's a fifty people, twenty

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five people that got together liberals and conservatives and said
we're going to come up with a plan to fix immigration,
and then you put that out and you put it
on social media and you get a thousand or ten
thousand retweets or shares. Trust me, people are going to
see this stuff. And if that becomes the norm, the

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numbers are going to get bigger and bigger. Where people
are getting together instead of going to their Democrat meetings
or the Republican meetings, are gonna be getting together and
saying let's solve these problems. Let's come up with ideas,
and now we will have we will have a standard
to measure the people in Congress to see if they're
doing their job right. Now you have your measure is
CNN versus Fox, or I'm an angry leftist or I'm

(32:58):
angry on the right. That's no measurement. There's no way
to measure stuff like that. It doesn't work. Make twenty
nineteen the year where the people start to get up
off their butts and actually make a difference together. You
can send fifty dollars in for the wall, or you
can get three hundred thousand people to stand up and

(33:20):
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We'll be right back, going way beyond the headlines on
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(34:44):
my good buddy Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Radio Show. Folks,
listen when we come back after the top of the hour,
I'm gonna talk with a good buddy of mine and
it trust me, you don't want to miss this interview.
We're gonna be talking Abo Eddie Gallagher, Navy seal who
if you know this story and you know the story

(35:05):
about Clint Lawrance and all these other people, all these
other soldiers and seals and all these individuals who have
been convicted of stuff or charged with things that when
you put it in a war zone or in what
they've done or what they've been charged with doing, you're
gonna see how little it takes to bring somebody in

(35:30):
front of a judge in the do D. The JAG
Corps and the DoD is out of control and agencies.
You know, the FBI gets a lot of flak because
of their executives, But I gotta tell you the way
that the NCIS is carrying out investigations. I look at
case after case after case between NCIS and the JAG Corps.

(35:50):
It's it's egregious what's happening. And all these cases which
we'll talk about are being brought with hearsay quite often
that wouldn't even reach the level of a preliminary investigation.
When I was in the FBI, we wouldn't even be
able to start that based on a lot of this stuff.
So we're gonna be talking in just a minute to

(36:13):
Derek Van Orden. You may have you may remember him
from active valor, former Navy seal, retired, amazing guy, very
well spoken. We're gonna come back and talk to him
and talk some more about what's going on in media,
and I'll be taking your calls eight hundred nine for
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(36:56):
are going to be working very hard to get something
past in the Senate. There's a very good chance it
won't get past it's up to the Democrats. So it's
really the Democrat shutdown because we've done our thing. Because
I don't know exactly what they're investigating. The questions about
Hillary Clinton and the Steel dossier strike me as more
of the same. I didn't learn anything new in there.

(37:16):
Maybe they did, holding them accountable. Sean gets the answers
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(37:43):
to see his information on breaking news and more bold
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Show eight hundred nine four one seven, three two six. Folks,
this is the interview that you don't want to miss today.

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I have been following the career of Derek Van Ordon
for a long time. I didn't know him. I was
in the Seal Team for a very short period of time,
about five years. He was twenty six years in the
Seal Teams. But we never cross pass until I got
to see the movie Act of Valor, which I hope
that you got to see. If you didn't see it,

(38:25):
go rent it. It's an amazing, amazing movie. That was
where they used seals to actually play the roles of seals,
which I thought, Hey, that's remarkable. Let's actually have the
experts play the experts. I figured, let's start out before
I read Derek's his entire bio, which is just amazing.
Let's just play a little clip of who this guy is,

(38:47):
because yes, this is acting in a movie. But this
is the way you flip a source when you need
to question somebody. Go ahead, shitting on a wonderful boat.
It's fabulous. I believe it's called I love the way
you say Starship the Russian. That guy star Trek with
the same Scotty. I know he's sorry, Scott, I wouldn't know. Yes,
you never seen star Trek. No, No, that's insane. So

(39:10):
here's the problem. Pal, you're worth a lot of money,
or you were worth a lot of money. I believe
it's still in do you do yes? All right, let
me tell you how the world works. There, christ it's Christo. Sorry, Christo,
of course, let me tell you how the world really works. Please,
this is no longer your boat. Since I walked through

(39:31):
that door, You're not the same guy you used to be.
You're just not. There's nothing that can you stop that.
Nothing I can do to help you right now unless
you let me help you. We need to do this together, pal,
you and me. Cool concept, no readier? Yes? Do you
think this is some kind of game? Do you do?

(39:54):
You find this amusing? I'm not funny. You were your life.
What you're doing here, ladies and gentlemen, U that is
how you flip a source right there. That is where
you play good cop and bad coop on your own.
Derek Van Ordon twenty six year veteran of Navy Seals.
He has been and done combat tours in Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq,
in the Horn of Africa. He has two Bronze Stars.

(40:16):
He's a distinguished Honor graduate of what we call eighteen delta.
It's Army Special Forces Medical sergeant's course. You don't get
better than that when it comes to treating people. He
was also and this is very interesting, he was selected
by a Naval Special Warfare command to assist in writing
the official Navy Seal ethos. I have always given this
ethos a hard you know, kind of given it a

(40:38):
hard time on the radio but now knowing who wrote it,
I'll never do that again. It's not that I didn't
believe in it. I just did. I was like, where
did this ethos come from? Now that I know who
wrote it means all the difference in the world. He's
also the author of the best selling book Book of Man,
a Navy Seals Guide to the Lost Art of Manhood,
and he's starting multiple films like ACTI Valorance of Viving

(41:00):
a Wild Derek Man, thank you for being here. We've
been talking on the phone. It's a privilege to actually
have you speaking here and uh, and it's this is
great that you're coming here and we can talk about
Eddie Gallagher and what's going on. Well, thank you very much.
I appreciate it. That was quite an introduction and our
purpose here today it really is to speak about Chief Gallagher.

(41:24):
And I know that you've taken a lot of time
to do this. Sean hand of hes taking a lot
of time to do this. Uh. Pete harts Rith that
Fox and Friends has also done this. And it's very
important U that we collectively as a nation, when we
see something wrong, that we act on him immediately. And
it's my firm belief that Chief Gallagher as has been

(41:46):
the victim. Not to use the word negatively, that's going
to kind him an overused term. But he at the
official institutions for law enforcers in the Navy, I think
are treating him poor and it's it's not appropriate. I'd
like to say immediately though, that I don't have any
specific knowledge concerning what actually took place on the ground

(42:10):
with Chief Gallagher um in missour. So I want to
be very clear with that that I'm operating off the
same public knowledge that is available to anybody, so right,
which which let's exactly let's be honest about that public knowledge. Right,
discoveries happen, Right, discoveries happened in this case already, So

(42:31):
we should understand because it's been made public, we should
understand exactly what there is. I mean, we have a
good understanding of the picture that it's been painted by
the prosecution. And what's interesting about this is that when
you talk about somebody that nobody's ever heard about doing
a murder, for instance, in an area where nobody ever

(42:51):
goes right, it's hard for the public to grasp what
the facts are in this case. But what separates this
case from that is that the information has that's publicly
available is available to operators like yourself, myself, other seals,
other people in the military, and they're saying the same thing.

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This does not add up because they understand the way
things go in these war zones, correct. And what I
really want to focus on today, Jonathan, because I think
we can have an appreciable positive effect, is the treatment
that Chief Gallagher has received at the hands of NSAYS
and also through the JAG Corps and at the break

(43:33):
in Miramar. If people are unaware of what it's like
to be in a break and he's in a pre
trial confinement right now, that you're treat it exactly the
same as someone that's been arrested and convicted of child molestation.
So they're putting him essentially in the general population with
these folks that are convicted criminals, which is again inappropriate,

(43:56):
just to give some frame of reference for folks, we're
really a demilitarized population. Now, less than one percent of
the American population is in the military, less than twenty
five percent of the American military are naval folks, and
less than one percent of that our seals. So we're
speaking about a very very small portion of the American

(44:17):
population that understands the difference between combat and civilian context.
And if I could for a second, I'd like to
maybe explain the scenario to help people understand what we're
dealing with. Here is a yeah, go right ahead, Okay,
check it out. So, um, I am a graduated of
the Army Special Forces Medical Startings course, as is Chief Gallagher,

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meaning he is a super highly trained medic at the
highest level that you can be in the enlisted core.
It's it's pretty close on in the real world. Is
pretty close to be in physician assistant, is it not?
I mean not quite a physician pretty clearly correct. Yes,
you have the same formulator, so you can prescribe medications

(44:58):
and you do different types of surgeries, and the ability
that you have to positively affect medical outcomes is great
because of the training that's conducted by the Army. So
let's be real clear that Chief Gallagher has received the
same training and is a medical professional along with being

(45:19):
a warrior. So let's a time I'll tell you about
this a little bit. So treating a patient wounded enemy
combatant on the battlefield is sort of the same as
treating somebody in the back of an ambulance in Cleveland.
But here's where it differs. If you have a wounded
enemy combatant on the battlefield who's incapacitated, he goes into

(45:41):
a different category for noncombatant. Now, and you're prohibited by
law from harming this guy, right or the scalp, you're
supposed to treat him. That's what we do. However, if
this person becomes alert and what's going on and starts
fighting you, he is no longer an enemy combatant. He
has switched back to the category of a combatant. If

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someone has an opioid overdose in Cleveland and you're in
the back of an ambulance, you give him nar can,
which is a drug that helps get rid of the
heroin from your system. It's actually an agonist antagonists. But
if that person wakes up after you give this to
him and he starts to resisting you, you literally open
the doors of the ambulance and either you run away

(46:25):
or he runs away. So it's not the same as
being on a battlefield. You are duty bound in combat
to kill the enemy. That's what you're there for. And
I'd also like to bring something up. Chief Gallighy is
going to be assigned to Naval Special Warfare Group on
Training Detachment, meaning he would be responsible for training the

(46:48):
seals that are going into combat. We use a cyclically,
you go into combat, you can back you train the
other guys so that our tactics, techniques, and procedures are
cutting edge all the time. Meaning that he was a
high very high performing Navy Seal chiefs. So having been
at trade debt, actually established those The first and list

(47:10):
of guy actually, excuse me, the second list of the
guy a Naval Special Worker Group on Training Detachment for
Land Warfare. We as seals do not train anybody to
murder anybody. Seals are not trained to murder folks. Seals
are trained to very very selectively kill enemies on the battlefield.

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And some people have an issue with this because they
don't understand that there is justifiable killing in combat, right,
But that's what we do as professionals. We don't we're
not trained to build hearts and minds. We're trained to
actually well, when when I say build hearts and minds,
all right, we're not necessary that seals are not. Our
Our foundation is not to go in and build schools.

(47:54):
Our our foundation is to go in and take out enemies.
That's what we're supposed to do. That's all we're supposed
to do. Yeah, And so when you're acting, you're acting
in this manner, you're going out and doing things. It
can be very disconcerting if you are not trained to
do this. And the other side is it can actually

(48:14):
still be very disconcerting if you are trained to do this.
So some people, although they do make it through seal training,
really don't have what it takes to be a seal.
That's just the way it is. We can't screen everybody out.
And I think that that may have taken that maybe
uh in play here with what's happened with Chief Gallagher

(48:37):
right right, and he will go ahead, go ahead. Well,
I think that we know with with with people like
also that they need to understand the JAG Corps, which
your attorneys are. They they don't come from the war
fighting side of the military. And most people don't realize
that only about ten percent of the United States military
is actually a war fighting component. The rest of them

(48:57):
are logistics and and all these other things. A very
small group of people actually the warfighters that are out there,
and the JAG Corps is as far remote from that
as could possibly be. So when they're bringing these charges,
what you're seeing is language that doesn't fit or not
just language, but avenues of approach for their cases that

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don't fit reality in the war zone. Correct they're applying.
And there I did that long die tribe of trying
to explain what the this is like. Is that even
though these folks are in the military themselves, they do
not understand what it's like to be a Warrior's there
are warrior classes and there's administrative support persale. The JAG

(49:40):
Corps falls into the administrative support personnel. I'm not trying
to degrade their service. It's fantastic. Without them, we wouldn't
be the great military that we are. But they simply
often do not understand the complexities on the battlefield. Right.
It's just a fact. Okay, I want to be super
clear about something else, Jonathan, before you go. Naval Special

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War for itself does not have an institutional problem. The
JAG Corps does not have an institutional problem. The Naval
Criminal Investigative Service does not have an institutional problem. What
we have is we have a problem with some people.
Some people within these organizations either don't understand what they're
doing and why they're doing it, or quite frankly, have

(50:21):
some ego involved with being able to roll up and
put the thumb on Navy seals. And we've seen this
in the past. Senior Chief Berry was wrongfully convicted of
rape and the person who exercised undue commanded influenced things
James W. Crawford the third. He was the senior ranking

(50:42):
jag officer in the United States Navy who was pushed
the folks beneath him to convict this man wrongly of rape.
So we have seen this previously with the treatment of
Navy seals by the Jag Corps and by NCIS. So
let me say we get about two minutes left, okay. So,
so with the case with Eddie, and I've seen I'm

(51:06):
seeing two problems here, Okay, I'm seeing what's happening. The
fact that the command I don't think that that group
one has gotten behind the family because the family didn't
do anything, they're not being accused of anything. I don't
think they're behind the family. And I don't think group
is doing Eddie right because he hasn't been convicted in
getting his medical treatment. Those are two things. The other

(51:28):
thing is that I'm going to give you about a
minute to speak to is how other Seals and other
special forces Because this isn't just happening with Eddie. It's
happened with UM, with Major Matthew Goldstein, with Clint Lranz,
it happened with Keith Barry that you just talked about.
How can other Seals and other special forces stand together?
I mean we can, we can go on Facebook, we

(51:49):
can do whatever. But how important is it that we
stand together in this Well, it's superimportment first and foremost.
We have to understand that every hap to duty service
man and has taken an oath to support and defending
the Constitution the United States and obey the orders of
the people appointed above them. So, in no way, shape
or form, go I think active duty military people should

(52:11):
ever get together and conspire in order to try to
take down their secretors. It's that's that would be disastrous
for our nation. Now, the whole fat retired folks like
you and me there, we should get together and we
should review these things that are taking place with our
active duty service men and women that are standing to

(52:33):
watch for us. So we can have barbecues and whatnot,
and as some things like this come out of the blue,
and our active duty folks are being treated poorly. We
need to get together to express our displeasure and the
fact that you know, quite frankly, our men and women
are less app to do their job if they think

(52:54):
they're being second guest and someone's applying in eight thousand
mile along screw driver to correct their behavior, they have
not been in the battlefield. Listen, brother, I gotta cut
it right there. I can't thank you enough for being on.
Derek Van ordon twenty six year Navy seal veteran, good
friend of mine, a brother, and listen to what he
has to say and we'll come back. I'm gonna give

(53:16):
you his contact information on Twitter. You can find him.
It's at Derek Van Orden. It's not real hard and
let him know what you think about what he has
to say and that you stand with him. This is
Jonathan Gillham. We'll be right back. When fake news gives
you lies, Hannity, he supplies the truth. Sean Hannity is

(53:38):
on right now. This is Jonathan Gillham, back in from

(54:03):
my good buddy Sean Handy and the Sean Hannity Radio
Show eight hundred nine four one seven three two six.
If you're driving down the road, you better be calling
in because I want to hear what you have to say.
I will be getting to your calls. Make sure. One
thing we didn't mention on that last interview with Derek
Van Ordon is that you can go to the Navy
Seals Fund. That's Navy Seals Fund dot is that dot

(54:25):
org and you can go and donate the Eddie. I'll
come back and talk about that again here in just
a minute. We'll be right back the radio show, the

(54:51):
mainstream media Love State. This is the Sean Hannity Show.
This is Jonathan Gillham back in from my good buddy
Sean Hannity, and you can call in eight hundred nine
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for one, Sean. I want to hear what you think
and listen to. The show's fast, so it'll get a

(55:11):
lot of get to the calls a lot, but I
will get to you eventually. And I was just there
a second ago. I was trying to give out I
was under the gun here for a hard break it.
You can go to the Navy Seals Fund dot org
and there's a link there that goes to the Eddie
Gallagher Fund, and I recommend that you give to that
and help fund his legal fees because that ultimately is

(55:34):
one of the things that's gonna hurt his family. Not
just Eddie, but hurt his family. I'm gonna talk a
little bit more about Eddie's case and then some other
things that have been the news that pertained to attorneys.
And I figured, you know, how many is there an
attorney out there that I trust? And I had to
you know, I know immediately there's only two attorneys that

(55:56):
I trust. One of them is not here, but the
other one is Paul Callen. Now, Paul Callen and I
go back a long ways when I was on CNN.
That's where I met Paul Callen, and he's been there
for a long time at CNN. He's a breath of
fresh air over there. He was a New York City
homicide prosecutor, um and for a while. He is the

(56:17):
attorney that won the case against O. J. Simpson Civilly
for Nicole Brown Simpson's family. That in and of itself
is groundbreaking. And um, you're somebody that I've watched when
you're on CNN, was you know you stand up against
the likes of um uh Stormy Daniels attorney. See, I'm

(56:41):
I'm teaching everybody to block these names out. He's one
of those people that you should block his name out.
I mean to me, it doesn't really he's irrelevant in
anything that he does. He's since disappeared pretty quick. Yes,
he has pretty You missed my segment with him. Oh no,
I saw that. Oh you saw that. Yeah, okay, good, Yeah,
I saw. He didn't like that very much. No, he didn't.

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But you know, you are. You're something that I've always
had a hard time with. Is I tell the truth,
but I'm not politically correct. You're because you're an attorney.
I mean, you're trained to be this way. You can
say things that are blunt but not offensive, and you
do a very good job of that. So well, thank
you very much. So I want to ask you real
quick and then we're gonna talk about Michael Cohen a

(57:25):
little bit. But with this Eddie Gallagher case, now, this
is the this is the JAG Corp in the military, right,
so they're gonna they're bound by the UCMJ, the Uniform Code,
Uniform Code of Military Justice. It's a little bit different
than the Sivilian world. However, when we look at the
language in the way that these cases I've I've studied
a lot of these jag cases, and what they're notorious

(57:48):
for is going in and developing an image of the person,
not based on the evidence, but based on something that
a picture that they can present to the juries or
to the public to kind of defame these people before
they come in. And so I've seen this over and
over and over where they say this person is dead, guilty,

(58:09):
they've done this, they've done this, and then when you
look at the outcome of the case and after they
cut away all that nonsense, you realize the person didn't
do it, or they did very little of what they've
been accused of. Now, I can't help but think that
attorneys in the Savie world that did that and ignored
the fact that something that they're presenting is not true

(58:31):
would be disbarred. Well, it's a violation of the code
of professional responsibility that lawyers are supposed to abide by.
But I will have to say there was a time
when that would be true. But since the advent of
television and television coverage of trials, you see civilian lawyers
all the time on television talking about cases while they're pending,

(58:53):
and prosecutors in particular, they're holding the press conference and
they're telling stories about the defendant to make them look
bad in the public eye. So I think you see
it in civilian life as well. Now it's quite possible
it's not as bad as it is in military life,
but it's an unfortunate thing. But it goes on. Did
social media bring this about it or is it TV

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really that has just a lack of ethics that have
come across the world really through all this depth, well, well,
you know, the background on it is that lawyers like
up through maybe the nineteen fifties early nineteen sixties, they
were very closely monitored by bar authorities and if they
made public statements about pending cases, they would be brought

(59:36):
up on charges. But then prosecutors started taking advantage of television.
I mean, you know, you'd be a prosecutor in a
local case and then you're going to be running for governor,
you know in six months if you get a lot
of press and when a defense attorney then was confronted
with a situation where the prosecutor had said horrible things
about his client just before jury selection. The defense attorney,

(59:59):
if he was doing his job, he'd go out and
give an into view saying nice things about his client,
and both of them were really violating the rules. So
it got to be It got to the point though,
where the courts came in and said, well, even lawyers
have First Amendment rights to talk about a case, particularly
when the prosecutor has already done that. So now you

(01:00:19):
rarely see I can't remember in the last ten years
seeing a case where a lawyer was actually prosecuted for
publicly talking about a case. But talking about is one thing,
but actually saying things. And there was one case that
I looked up that the same jag that it's involved
with Eddie Gallagher's case was involved with where there was
an issue with prostitutes over a text message where a

(01:00:42):
guy like a contractor and some higher ranking officials in
the military. He's saying, you know, after their expensive dinner
that he treated him to, he's going to send some
girls to their hotel and he kept going on. They
were laughing back and forth about this. Well that never transpired.
They have camera footage at shows, the girls never showed up.
There were never any prostitutes involved. But yet they still

(01:01:03):
submitted these text messages without explaining that to the jury
and then made it publicly known in the press to
taint the image of these people. Well, you know, it's
a pushing the line, though, isn't it is? It is
pushing the line. But there's a judge sitting in that courtroom,
a military judge, and he's only supposed to allow that
to go into evidence if it's admissible and if it

(01:01:25):
has what we call probitive value in the case. So
I don't know. I'd have to look at the specific
text messages to see what was in them. Let me
ask you this, how you know I am a realist
in this fight. I try not to say I'm conservative.
I'm definitely not liberal, but I try to say I'm
an effective think or a constitutionalist. But when I look

(01:01:46):
at the rhetoric that this is very striking to me.
When I look at the rhetoric that these JAG attorneys
are using, the judges and even some very elevated military
admirals and generals, and then I go on to Twitter
after I do a show like this, and that just

(01:02:06):
the vicious comments that I get. It's the same language
that they're saying on Twitter, the leftist that these attorneys
are using in their cases. That bothers me because now
I'm starting to see in the do D at a
quite often a leftist narrative or leftist language being used,

(01:02:30):
and that alarms me and scares me. But that the
DoD has a jag attorneys and judges that are using
this language, well, you know, I'm disturbed by it as well.
And I would be disturbed whether they were using right
wing language or left wing language and other words, using
political ideology to try to determine whether a man gets
convicted of a very very serious crime. They're not supposed

(01:02:52):
to be doing that. They're only supposed to be talking
about the evidence that is in the case, and they're
only even supposed to be talking about that when they're
in a courtroom trying the case. Otherwise they're supposed to
give very vague comments, and things have gotten out of hand.
In Eddie Gallagher's case, the prosecutor this jag actually said
that what Eddie is being accused of was like giving

(01:03:14):
manna from heaven to the ISIS fighters. I mean, that's
just ridiculous. Language has nothing to do with warfare, it's
it's basically what he just said goes out publicly is
like giving manna. Well, he shouldn't be making a comment
like that, because I don't care whether you're in the
military or you're a civilian. The US Constitution still applies

(01:03:36):
to you, and you're presumed innocent of any charge, even
a murder charge, pending conviction. And it seems to me
that that's language that's inflammatory and could inflama jury. And
with that being said, what in the civilian world, pre trial,
somebody's being held, you know, in confinement for a period

(01:03:58):
of time, what typically does a judge look for to say,
this person is a danger to society. I can't let
them out on bail. Well, i'll tell you in murder
case is Jonathan, it's rare that people. I'm talking about
an intentional murder case. I'm not talking about a manslaughter
or where it happens accidentally. But if or even if
the murder a murder, a charge or murder but they
don't have any evidence, well, whether they have evidence or

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not is something that the court does look at, because
what the court in deciding whether to set bail or
not looks at the seriousness of the charges. Okay, murders
the tops, so that's the most serious. The risk of
flight someone's facing life in prison, obviously they might, you know,
try to flee, but they also look at the strength

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of the evidence, and if it's an extremely weak case,
sometimes you'll have a shot at getting bail. But in
murder cases, presumptively, people tend to stay incarcerated pending their trial.
So let's talk real quick. We only got a few
minutes here to talk about. You wrote an article um
about Michael Cohen. Yes, and this kind of goes along

(01:05:03):
with what we're saying here. How attorneys it seems like
ethics and law have taken a hit over the past
few years, along with everything else ethics and politics. But
when when you have a a an attorney who breaks
their code of silence and the ethics that they're they're
sworn to, it's a big deal, is it not, Well,

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it is a big deal. And you know, Cohen had
done some things as an attorney that were just off
the scale wrong. One was, of course, tape recording his
own client, the President. Now I don't care what you
think about President Trump, when he's talking to his own attorney,
he has a right to expect that his attorney is
not tape recording him without permission, and Cohen did it repeatedly,

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and now he's trying to use evidence from those tapes
to get a light sentence from you know, the Mueller people,
or a light sentence recommendation. And I mean that's totally
repulse of conduct by an attorney and that's a problem
when I think it's a problem also for Mueller to
accept that type of stuff because from my experience, and

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you know this for sure, when you have a source
and a source has given you information because they want
less of a sentence, right, which is a lot of
the information that we get, you have to be very
careful with that information because they may very well be
telling you what you want to hear versus what you
need to know. Well, that's absolutely true. And by the way,
if you see the way they handled Cohen, you could

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see that they didn't even like dealing with Cohen because
the Southern District prosecutors would not give him the benefit
of his cooperation. It's called a five K one letter,
which can get your sentence reduced very very substantially. They
wouldn't give him such a letter because they said he
offered to cooperate, but he wouldn't fully cooperate, and he

(01:06:53):
was dishonest with respect to some of the things he
was cooperating about. Now, the Mueller team had a better
experience with him. They said they got information that was valuable,
but they wouldn't give them the five K one letter also,
and that's the gold certificate you get for cooperation with prosecutors.
If they won't give you that, that means there's been
a problem with your cooperation. So he got a partial

(01:07:13):
sentence for reduction, but not as much as he would
have expected otherwise. So we only got a couple of
minutes here. I got an email from a d EA
agent recently and he said, speaking about the Southern District,
Southern District, I always thought when I was in the
Bureau was the most aggressive district that there was. Yes,
And he was talking about how the things that Cohen

(01:07:34):
and others are being charged for through the Southern District. How,
and I'm pretty sure he's Cohen's going through the Southern District. Yes, yes,
how there are far worse things that people are being
charged for. But the fact is or that they have cases,
the fact is that they're an illegal alien in a
drug case and the Southern District is bending over backwards

(01:07:56):
not to bring either not bring charges or to bring
lenient charges against them. When did this type of political
stuff start to it? Well, you know something, Jonathan, that
would really surprise me. Um, I can't say I've I
haven't experienced that myself. Most lawyers that I know who
do immigration law, I think that, Um, the Southern District
treats them pretty tough. Uh, you know you gotta if

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you want to have an example of that, take a
look at El Chapo on trial in the well. He's
in the Eastern District. Tread across the bridge, but same idea.
They're they're pretty tough, and the Southern District in particular
is tough. So I don't I have no personal experience
that would back that claim. Over overall, though, I think
we can agree on this that things in the law
have started to mimic politics too closely, and when this

(01:08:41):
type of ideological stuff gets into real cases, that's a problem.
It's it's horrible, and uh, I think we see it
in all aspects of government. Um. You know, it's the
I hate Trump team against the Everything Trump does is
right team, and there used to be a point where
all of us, you know, sort of in the middle
and back to the President of the United States, whoever

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he might be. And uh boy, those days are gone, Jonathan,
and it's a different world out there. Hey, listen, God
bless you brother. It's always fast when we come in
here because it's interesting listening to you talk. Everybody can
find you on Twitter at Paul Callen. Cell An. You
got it right this time. And by the way, I'm
getting a rad Mini. It's a fat tire electrical bike

(01:09:23):
that collapses, um, and I'm gonna start riding that instead
of the school. Well, be careful out there and get
a helmet, will you. Well? I definitely, well, I definitely. Hey,
God bless you and have a great new year. All right,
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going to be working very hard to get something past
in the Senate. There's a very good chance it won't
get past it's up to the Democrats. So it's really
the Democrat shutdown because we've done our thing. Because I
don't know exactly what they're investigating. The questions about Hillary
Clinton and the Steel dossier strike me as more of
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freaking news and more bold inspired solutions for America. This
is Jonathan Gilliman for my buddy Sean Hannity on the
Sean Hannity Radio Show one hundred nine four one seven
three two six. You know, it seems like every time
I host now on the Sean Hannity Radio Show, I

(01:12:39):
always ask to have Peter Schwitzer on here. And the
reason is because when I see so when I look
at the news, I don't just look at the headline
and say, oh, that's interesting. I try to look beyond
the headline and things that will pop out to me
that even the people writing it may not see. And
there was a an article that came out yesterday and

(01:13:01):
I figured let's reach out that. Peter Schwizer said, gotta,
I have to get his take on this. He's author
of Secret Empires, How the American political class hides corruption
and enriches family and friends. He's the president of the
Government Accountability Institute and the creator of the documentary The
Creepy Line. Peter, thank you for being here as always
with me. I appreciate it. Oh, I'm glad to be

(01:13:23):
on with you in Happy New York. To you. Same
to you, my friend Listen. I saw this yesterday or
maybe two days ago, and I and I said, man,
I gotta bring this up when I have Peter on.
There was a liberal billionaire. He is the co creator
of LinkedIn, and he was apologizing for funding a false

(01:13:46):
flag effort to link Kremlin to Republican in Alabama Senate race.
That's when Roy Moore was running for office. There was
a company called American Engagement Technologies. He donated and he
is Read Hoffman. He's a billionaire co creator of LinkedIn.
He donated seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars and was

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part of the effort to falsely portray the Republican Senate
bid as being supported by the Kremlin. Now this is
very interesting because the fact that alone he used the
term false flag was shocking to me because anytime other

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conspiracy they call him conspiracy theorist hosts or people on
Twitter or Facebook used the term false flag. I'm talking
about conservatives here, and they say, well, that was a
false flag, or this is a false flag. They're they're
deemed crazy by the left. But here it is somebody
from the left donating money to make up a fake

(01:14:48):
Russian story about Roy Moore, and he used the term
false flag. I almost fell down when I saw that. Yeah,
you know, you were quite right too, because that term
does not get used much by the mainstream media. And
you're right that people always put that into sort of

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conspiracy theory land, But in this particular case, it's absolutely correct.
And you know, essentially what this group of Democratic activists
were doing was trying to create the impression, falsely, of course,
that Roy Moore's campaign for the Senate in Alabama, which
Senator Jones eventually won the Democrat that Roy Moore's campaign

(01:15:31):
was being supported by Russian bots on Twitter and on Facebook.
And you remember there was the whole hullabaloo about the
so called Russia collusion in twenty sixteen that President Trump
somehow benefited from these Russian bots, and that story has
never really panned out in terms of anything quantifiable. So

(01:15:53):
that was originally in twenty sixteen. Now you've got this
twenty eighteen Senate election, and you've got this company, America
and Engagement Technologies. These are not, you know, a bunch
of amateurs doing this. So Mikey Dickinson, who's the head
of it, is an Obama operative. There's a guy Jonathan
Morgan who's involved, who's a participants, who actually wrote his

(01:16:14):
company wrote to the Senate Intelligence Committee report on the
Russian Bots that we're working in twenty sixteen, these guys
to create an operation to make it look like Russian
bots are helping Roy Moore, when in fact those bots
don't even exist except for the fact that these guys
have created them. So this is a huge story because,

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of course it begs the question, Jonathan, if these Russian
bots are so active and they're so eager to help
you know, Trump or people that are supportive of Trump,
why would this organization have to go out and create them.
You would expect them to be operating already. So this
is a story with layers upon layers that I think
is very compelling and important for people that he paying

(01:16:57):
attention to. And I think when we look at the
way the media normally covers these things is once a part,
like let's say something against Trump, right, once a small
part of that may be proven, then they just assume
that everything else is true and they will go full
bore on those stories. What is interesting about this is

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one the fact that he used false flag, which gives
legitimacy to anybody else that says that was a false flag,
and they and constantly saying no, that false flags are weird.
That's things that conspiracy theorists say. Now you have somebody
who actually was involved in the operation saying yes, it
was a false flag. That's the big thing. The other thing, though,
is this is the exact thing that they were accusing

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Russians of coming in on Facebook and paying for this stuff.
And now we have an example where in an election
in the same time, right around after Trump was elected,
that this was actually a left or a democratic tactic.
So aren't we allowed to assume and shouldn't it be

(01:18:05):
investigated that if this was used on Roy Moore, it
was probably used on Donald Trump. Well, I think you
are absolutely right. You make a brilliant point that you
in all of this overheated rhetoric on Russia collusion, if
they get one point right in a minor way, they
somehow assume that the entire narrative is accurate, and that's

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just simply not the case. And I think we need
to call them out on it. And I think you're
also correct that this raises all sorts of questions about
all sorts of issues that come up. I mean, you
look at the whole issue of the Steal dossier, which
is still shrouded in mystery. We know who funded it,
we know that Steel, this ex British intelligence officer that

(01:18:50):
wrote it, doesn't really have any backup evidence. He just
sort of puts this stuff in the dossier. It's uncorroborated,
it's unverified, it's sealacious, as James Komi said, and it
seems pretty clear that it was designed to serve as
a piece of disinformation, as it were, to cycle through

(01:19:11):
the media to attack Donald Trump. And this story that
has now come out involving and marrying an engagement technologies
in these false thoughts indicates that when you talk about
dirty tricks and political campaigns. This takes it, honestly to
a whole new level when you involve foreign entities as

(01:19:32):
they did with the British intelligence officer mister Steele, or
in this case, where you are purposely trying to create
a false flag and indicate that there's Russian foreign interference
in a Senate campaign when in fact there is not.
And what I think, Jonathan, we need to do is
Democrats need to call out Democrats who are doing this stuff.

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If they are serious about manipulation of our political system,
they should be calling out these operatives who did this.
And by the way, these operatives then should not be
hired by other Democrats to work on any other campaigns
because this should not be acceptable political behavior. Well, what
about the fact that Paul Manafort, right, who is investigated
by Mueller, and all this stuff came out, and when

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Paul Maniford's passed, right, and the things that he's done
comes out, they link it to President Trump and they
use that also to further the case of Mueller. When
we look at this, and we look at the fact
that Democratic operatives, that a company that works with the
Democrats was used, and that a huge funder, the former

(01:20:41):
co founder of LinkedIn was involved with this, Reid Hoffman,
of paying seven or fifty thousand dollars to get this
going forward. Shouldn't we be able to say and shouldn't
shouldn't investigators be looking into this and saying, because they're
they're going to investigate Russia, they're gonna investigate Trump, They're
gonna investigate Gate Manafort, shouldn't they be saying that this

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gives us grounds to investigate to see if people were
tampering with elections, And wasn't this tampering with an election?
Absolutely it was. And look I said from the very beginning,
you know, in January twenty seventeen, where all this stuff
was swirling, If we're going to investigate Russia and they're
involvement politically, let's do all of it. Let's investigate John Podesta,

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Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, who was on the board of
a small company that got thirty million dollars from Ruce Nano,
which is a government run investment fund in Russia that
is called Putin's Child. In other words, this is Putin's
investment fund. They put thirty million dollars into a small
energy company, upon which John Podesta sits on the board.

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Let's investigate Bill Clinton's speaking fees from investment funds that
are linked to Russian intelligence, which is well established and
well known. Let's look at Ruce Nano, which was this
high tech initiative that Hillary Clinton set up a secretary
estate to help the Russians develop a Russian version of
Silicon Valley, which eventually led, according to the US military,

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to the Russians being able to develop this hypersonic missile
that they are now testing. These are all established facts,
and they all look at the linkages between the Clintons
and Clinton, members of the Clinton orbit who are receiving money,
who are receiving benefits from Russian entities while she is

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Secretary estate and our lead diplomat. My view was look
at the Trump stuff. I think it's pretty clear that
there's nothing that's emerged that amounts to anything involved in collusion.
But why are you not also interested in looking at
this side of the ledger, which is the Clinton side?
And that's if you're going to investigate Russian collusion, be
honest about it, don't be selective about it. And I

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think that's why people feel like this investigation has kind
of become a far So let's just you know, with
the interesting thing about this, let's just start at the beginning.
It was based on a fake dossier and illegal wire taps,
right fises, illegal right and so that alone should have
stopped us in his tracks. The second thing is none

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of those things added up to anything. Yet when we
look at what you just pointed out about the Clintons
and John Podesta and the Clinton Foundation and what we
look at here with this election tampering from the left,
I mean, there there was no fake dossier that allowed
us to see that this guy was funding a false flag.
There was no of illegal fizes that. Let you know

(01:23:41):
about that. Let Peter Schweitzer and your group go out
and investigate what the Clintons did. You didn't need a
fake fiser for that. You know it's there. And this
is why, I think, Johnathan, why people are very frustrated
with the investigation. A lot of people, even people that
aren't necessarily big Hump supporters, look at this and say

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this is selective justice in America. Then where are they?
Why aren't they standing up for this? Why are people
standing together and saying this can't happen anymore? Well, I
think they need to. I think people have gotten very
disillusioned with the criminal justice system in America today. I mean,
even look at Paul Maniford, who, by the way, I say,

(01:24:24):
you know he broke Parah laws, he booked it, then
you know he needs to go to jail. But Tony Podesta,
who is John Podesta's brother, was also a lobbyist for
the Ukraine and a whole host of other foreign entities.
And by the way, when Paul Maniford was charged with
violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act FARAH, what did Tony Podesta,

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john Podesta's brother do, the big Democrat lobbyist, He went
back and retroactively filed seventeen documents on his previous work
under FARAH. In other words, he had reported any of
the stuff either, just like Paul Manafort. But is Tony
Podesta being investigated for fear of violations. I don't know.

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There's no evidence that he is. I mean, maybe there's
something going on in Mueller's investigation, but I really doubt it.
And that's another example of this selective nature. And people
are I think disgusted. They're willing to accept the fact that,
you know, maybe somebody they agree with politically has engaged
in bad behavior and they ought to be investigated. But
when it's only one side, yeah, that's ever being investigated,

(01:25:32):
they are just appalled and they feel like they're selective
justice in this country. I'll tell you what, Let's take
a break real quick. I'm gonna bring you back on
the other side of the break if you've got a
few minutes, because I want to I'm gonna come back.
I've been trying to tell everybody not just to reflect
on twenty and eighteen, but what you would like to
see in twenty nineteen. So we'll have a couple of
minutes when we come back. Hang on there, Peter, We'll

(01:25:52):
come back and then we're going to talk about that.
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(01:26:52):
This is Jonathan gil I'm filling in for my good
buddy Sean Hannity on the last day of the week
here before New Year's eight hundred nine one seven, three,
two six. Let's go back to Peter Schweitzer. Peter, I
asked you before we went on a break. Everybody talks
about at the end of the year, you know, they
reflect on twenty and eighteen. What do you hope that

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the American population that is listening, both of all that
are liberal and conservative. I really hate those terms because
if we just looked at things, how do we fix
it effectively, we wouldn't really have those terms so much.
But what do you wish, you know, doing all this
research that you see that people would get in two
thousand and nineteen, Well, I think what people have to

(01:27:35):
get is, you know, the reason that our founders set
up our form of government the way they did with
separate branches of government, is they had an inherent distrust
of power when things are done in secret, when things
are done with powerful forces, especially that those are individuals
who don't have to face elections. Corruption happens. It's not

(01:27:58):
a liberal problem, it's not a servative problem. It's a
human nature problem. So what I say is you be
skeptical when you're being told by powerful institutions this or
that this is the truth. That is the truth. It's
okay to ask questions, it's okay to hold them accountable.
And in this day and age, we have so many

(01:28:18):
decisions that are being made by unelected government officials. They
you know, a businessman makes a request for a permit
at local governments, they just ignore them. They just ignore
them because they decide they don't want to honor it.
Or somebody makes a request from a government agency under
the Freedom of Information Acts, they just ignore the requests.
So the point is the only way we get accountable

(01:28:40):
government is by us holding them accountable. Nobody else is
going to do it. It has to be out. Hey
god Bus, you have a great New Year's my friend.
Thanks brother, take care you got it, Peter Schwizer. Folks
will come right back. I'm going to get to some
of your calls eventually. Go find a book Sheep No More,
The Art of Awareness and at Tax Revival. Its available
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(01:29:00):
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(01:29:27):
foundation for conservative victory. Victory. Now back to the Sean
Hannity Show. This is Jonathan Gillham back in for my
good buddy Sean Hannity the Sean Hannity Radio Show. Listen.
I figured I would take a break from the seriousness
before we get the end of the show because I
got some great things to say at the end, and
I wanted to talk to a good friend of mine.

(01:29:49):
I was having a conversation. She's a doctor and a
health practic a natural asserted let me let me go
back here, certified natural health practitioner seeing HP and natural
pathic doctor INDE. She's been doing devoted over twenty years
of this stuff to her life. Randy Shannon, and Randy,
it's so good to have you on here. I've been

(01:30:11):
on a show with you before. Now you're on with me,
and I wanted to ask you and give the people
some advice. After Christmas and after the holidays, they their
guts are bloated, and you know it's all this stuff
that you hear on the television. You got truckers driving
down the road right now, you've got family members that
are having their last meeting, you know, get together before

(01:30:33):
the end of the new year, and everybody's suffering by
this point. What what is it that's happening in people's
bodies from overeating that they don't normally eat this much
or this kind of food? And how do they buy,
you know, the next couple of weeks, how do they
get themselves back to normal? I love this question, and
first of all, it's great to be here, and thank

(01:30:54):
you so much for having me on the Sean Hannity Show.
What a great topic. I believe when people are going
through that feeling where they're losing their energy levels and
they've got that bloat look or the gasiness, that they're
actually gluten intolerant. And gluten is two proteins that are
used for the elastic texture in dough. For example. It

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acts as a glue that holds the foods together, and
it's in a lot of foods. It's in breads, it's
in cereals, it's even in ketchup and mustard for those
truckers that are also driving down the road. It's in everything,
and it's like a bull in a china cabinet, causing
and reeking damage all throughout our body. So besides the

(01:31:38):
bloating and the lack of energy, there can be other symptoms,
most of which can be tracked back to nutritional deficiencies,
and if they are gluten intolerant, there can be other
things like mood swings, hair loss, bloating, low vitamin B
twelve levels, which is your energy, and B twelve cannot
be absorbed without an ass environment in the stomach, so

(01:32:02):
we absolutely have to have acid. And so when this
bloating or this gassy stomach occurs, people look like they're
about what four to five months pregnant. What it really
right that we've seen the look and they can have
a great body and they have the stomach bloat. So
what that means is the acid environment where the pH

(01:32:23):
in the stomach isn't quite right. It really needs to
be more like car battery acid, and the stomach acid
has gone more towards a neutral level, neutral level being
seven and it's probably more like a four or a
five instead of level one. And at that level what
happens is yeast in bacteria grow in that environment. So

(01:32:44):
when somebody, you know, we overeat at the holidays generally,
so when somebody's eating all of these variances of food.
When they eat fruit of any kind, fiber, sugars, juices,
is going to result in the fruit and the and
the carbohydrates being fermented by the yeast and bacteria, which

(01:33:05):
causes that bloat. So what can they do to avoid it?
And this goes for all year round, okay, and try
not to break these rules. What they want to do
to change this lack of energy and to get rid
of this bloat is for sure, go on a gluten
free diet, and that means everyone in the entire household.

(01:33:25):
They need to also stay away from all fried foods forever.
If you want to fast track aging, eat fried foods.
It's so terrible for you. No nitrates, no nitrates, nitrites.
They want to use real butter, not margarine, and they
want to use lots and lots of salt. They want

(01:33:45):
the chief cells in the stomach to create that acidic
environment that's best for digestion, and then that will suppress
suppress the growth of yeast. So no cooking with oils, no,
no coconut oil, no olive oil. Everybod he says, Oh,
but that's okay. But here's the thing. Unless you have
plucked that coconut off the tree and you grind it

(01:34:07):
up and you get the oil out of it, and
you eat it in the first ten minutes. It's not
healthy for you. Wow. And it causes severe free radical
damage in the body. And we don't want that because
what happens we age faster, we get aches and pains,
and we get all kinds of symptoms and then they
get diagnosed as something. So a lot of the things

(01:34:28):
that you're talking about, it seems like it's in overdrive
times ten during the holiday, Yes, and that probably causes
a massive amount. But I'll tell you this right here.
I was sick all Christmas, so I didn't go anywhere.
I didn't eat any of this food, knew nothing. I
hardly ate at all, in fact, and I slept because
I was on prescription medicine and it just knocked me out.

(01:34:48):
And I don't feel disgustingly bloated. Not to say that
the food that I normally eat is always done so well.
It's not fried. It's good food. But a lot of
the things that you're saying, the mi thing you know,
of the fruit with the other stuff, with the yeas
and stuff, this is just something that happens constantly, that's right. Well,
and it starts typically at Thanksgiving and a lot of

(01:35:12):
times that's when it hits the news. Oh, the flu
is everywhere. People are crashing because they've just done massive
destruction in their bodies. And you know, the great thing
is is everything is reversible. That's my belief. And yeah,
if you just go gluten free, there's so many benefits.
One is going to be the increased energy level. Why

(01:35:34):
because the beach twelve will now actually absorb, so you're
going to gain back those energy levels. And then you're
not going to have that chemistry process going on in
your stomach if you remove the gluten and you remove
these these bad things no wheat, wheat and pretty much
everything in many variations. So you really have to look

(01:35:54):
at the labels and go completely wheat free. And remember
a few years ago that was all the rate. Oh
I want weep bread, I want weatha, I want weet that,
and really we worked just destroying ourselves. Well, that happens
a lot when when people get in politics or advertising
gets in the way of the way we eat. Listen,
I gotta I gotta cut it there because I have
to get calls before we end the show, but I'll

(01:36:15):
have you on more and I can't think, you know,
how do people find you? The bodycan dot com, the
body can c a N because I believe the body
can heal itself. We're on Twitter on that where we
have a Facebook group nearing twenty thousand people. So thank
you so much for having me on the show. You
got it, and hopefully we have some people reach out.
You got it, Doctor Randy Shannon, thank you very much.

(01:36:36):
You're a good friend of mine and you're always having
great advice, and hopefully some of these people take it.
The trucker's going down the road and get rid of
this thing that goes on in our body. After Thanksgiving
sometimes after Christmas. I figured i'd bring her on just
to you know, give people a little bit of a
perspective that you can get back to this pretty quickly. Um, listen, folks,

(01:36:56):
I want to go to the phone calls real quick.
Let's go to Scott and Alabama. Go ahead, Scott, Jonathan,
what's up, buddy? Hey, Happy New Year? First of all
in NSDQ awesome. Thank you very much, and listen, I
know we got a limited amount of time, but I
wanted to get to you and I'm gonna give you
the floor. Go ahead. Yeah, I just wanted to say

(01:37:19):
it talks about Chief Gallagher and you know his situation.
But I also want to remind people that Marcus latreelle
loan survivor Operation Red Wing, that whole debacle when they
deliberated on what to do with the goat herders, that
all happened because they were they had a tremendous fear
of being prosecuted by their own people. Yeah, if they

(01:37:42):
deliberated long and hard about that, and he said it
was a decision that he would regret for the rest
of his life. Yeah. It's interesting when we look at
all these cases that are coming up recently. You know,
Clint Lawrence, we got the Major Goldstein, We've got Eddie Gallagher,
and all these things are being looked at by these

(01:38:04):
JAG attorneys from a civilian point of view. They don't.
It's not as though when they when I see these
cases presented, they're presenting them from the way a SAVENE
would interpret the UCMJ and without taking the account where
they are, the war zone that they're at, and what
they're actually tasked with, which is killing the enemy, and

(01:38:25):
now we're not. In Eddie's case, he was just accused.
In Major Goldstein's case has to do with that he
thought he was killing a combatant, and the whole system
needs to be reviewed. Wouldn't you agree? I would certainly agree.
It's hard to determine who's a combatant who's not when
they hide amongst the population over there. And let me

(01:38:46):
say something further about eighteen deltas. I worked with eighteen
deltas I worked. I flew for Blackwater in Baghdad, and
several of our folks were eighteen Deltas. And if I
was on a roadside injured, believe me, the person I'd
want treating me as an eighteen Delta they are. They
are the best, and no mistake, they are the best. Yeah, yeah, no,

(01:39:11):
no doubt about it. And you know, I gotta give
you credit. The pilots, the helicopter pilots, the Special Forces pilots.
You guys are amazing and I can't thank you enough
for all that you do. I'm gonna cut it there, brother,
but listen, be safe, Marry Christmas. We'll hope you have
a happy New Year. And thank you for speaking out
the veterans across this country need to speak out like that.

(01:39:31):
God bless you and thank you for that. I'm thinking
one more phone call and then I got to go
to a break, and let's go to Barrett in Houston.
Go ahead, Bill, what's up? Yeah? I thought I was
gluten free until Randy shannons gluten and mustard and we're
we're floride free to put filters on your home water.

(01:39:52):
But anyway, I want to talk quickly about the Corporal
Singh who was killed Christmas night. Yeah, I think he
deserves the uh front, the front the first responders equivalent
to the military's purple Heart. Perhaps we could call it
the gold Heart or the guilded Heart or something. And

(01:40:13):
I think that, uh it should be awarded posthumously to
his wife and son. And I think that Congress should,
uh should allow those to be awarded to uh the
nine to eleven heroes that are posthumous and seriously wounded
and uh so, people just like I can say it's

(01:40:35):
real quick. People that don't realize um corporal seeing he
was the officers just killed in California. He came over
here as a legal immigrant, was even taking classes while
there's a cops so we could learn to speak better English.
And um, that was at the Newman Police Department and
he was killed by an illegal alien and its lines

(01:40:57):
are a domestic Now, John, they are brother. Listen, you're
on our front door. I gotta cut it there. God
bless you, Barrett, and thank you for bringing that up.
And God bless Texas. You guys. You gotta get ahold
of what's going on there in politics because you're turning purple.
Let's let's take a break when you come back. As
some closing remarks, I can't thank you enough for being
with me on your drive home or wherever you are.

(01:41:20):
Go get my book sheet. No more of the Art
of Awareness and the tax revival. You knew that was coming.
And we'll be right back. If you miss one day,
you'll be out of the loop. Which someone please tell
me what is going on here? This is a Sean
Hannity show. This is Jonathan Gillham finishing up the show

(01:42:07):
from my good buddy Sean Hannity. And I can't thank
him enough. Sean, thank you for allowing me to be here. Linda,
thank you for asking me to come in here. I
can't thank everybody enough for the phone calls I'm sorry.
I don't get into a lot of the phone calls
here because it's so quick, but I want to let
everybody know, my family, friends, that I love you, I
thank you. I want to thank everybody for donating to
my sister's go fund me page, Allison. You can still

(01:42:29):
donate to that. Go to gofund me dot com and
type in a L I S S A N Alison
and you'll be able to donate to her. She was
brutally beating a couple of weeks ago, and I want
to tell everybody she is recuperating very very well. She
was discharged out of intensive care and is in a
rehab clinic now, so she's doing good and she's on

(01:42:50):
her way back, showing some signs of some traumatic brain
injury and some other things, but she's on the mend.
So I thank you for that. Thank you for the
support that you give me and my voice when I
get to come on the radio and share my expertise
and my ability to ask the right questions because I've
been there and done that in a lot of different things.
I don't have an ego and I'm not here to

(01:43:11):
get famous. I'm here to help you see the truth
and expose the reality of the spin. And that's always
been my goal here. So I can't thank you enough
for your support. If you do like what you hear,
you can go to Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal on Twitter
and Jonathan T. Gilliam on Instagram, on Facebook and on YouTube. Now,

(01:43:32):
real quick, before we close, I just want to say this.
You know, I plump up my book a lot cheap,
no more, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. The
reason I do that is because and I want you
all to learn from this. I wrote that book so
that you all can understand how I see the world
from the attacker's point of view, because I want you

(01:43:53):
to have I want you to have that understanding so
you can make your life safer and so you can
be empowered. Too often what we see in today is
the push for people to be helpless. Take this hand out,
sit on your butt and send this money and don't
make a fuss about something. It's as if the politicians

(01:44:14):
and media, and it's not just as if it's the
reality they want you to learn helplessness. I want you
to learn empowerment. And I think as we go into
the new year, that should be what you take with
yourself in two and nineteen. If you have an expertise,
don't it, don't be afraid of using it, don't be
egotistical about it, and don't force it on people that

(01:44:34):
don't want to hear it. But if you can lend
a hand with your expertise, if you can give some
insight and the things that they're saying that's wrong on TV,
or a politician that is trying to skew things for
an election, or if you just hear somebody leading somebody astray,
stand up and inform the people. Let's start helping each
other be empowered. And the way you do that is
by standing together, first and foremost, having dialogue and then

(01:44:58):
understanding that you do have a voice. Listen, the media
is not the fourth branch of government. In fact, the
people are the first branch of government. Without you, you
wouldn't have congressmen and senators, and without you standing up
for freedom, it wouldn't be defended. It's up to us, folks,
to stand together, and that's what twenty nineteen should be.

(01:45:20):
So go get my book Sheep No More, The Art
of Awareness and a Tax Revival Amazon, Barnes and Noble,
and then do your part. Become empowered, be a force
multiplier for police and for truth. Thank you again. Find
me on Twitter, Find me on Facebook and Instagram and YouTube.
I love every single one of you. Remember, wherever you

(01:45:40):
see my face or hear my voice, the truth has arrived.

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