Is Free Speech Under Attack? - 8.31 - The Sean Hannity Show

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or pill and host, however you want to say it.
And one of Shaun's go to guys when he is out.
And now I can add to this the uh, the
title of author of Sheep No More, Uh, The Art
of Awareness and Attack Survival. You can find that on Amazon.
It is just went on sale yesterday. It's going that's

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for pre sales. It's going to be shipped December twelve.
Don't wait. We gotta get this book pumped up. And
I'll tell you why, folks. What we're gonna be talking
about today, what we're talking about today on this show
is awareness. Now, I am a targeting expert, a an
expert in terrorist tactics and unconventional warfare, but overall, one

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of the things that I've developed a real expertise for
is the one thing that America is lacking, and that
is awareness. We have an epidemic of unawareness in this country.
And Sheep No More I wrote this book specifically to
help people develop their awareness and think outside the box

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and start looking at and targeting themselves and understanding where, uh,
the attack could come from, when the attack could happen,
Who might attack you, why they would attack you and
what type of attack it would be. And they're actually
a set of UH of tactics, techniques, and procedures that

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are used by threat assessors and UM targeting analysis experts
that I'm going to give to you, not for the
purpose so that you can go on plan attacks, but
so that you can actually look at your life from
an attacker's point of view. Nobody's ever done this before,

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and UH, I think this is gonna be It's gonna
be a little controversial, but at the same time, it's
gonna be very beneficial and empowering to the American people
and anybody else in the world that wants to read
it so that you can understand, UH, where your critical
areas are, what are the critical times for those areas,
what vulnerabilities could be exploited in your life, and what

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are the attackers avenues of approach. I'm gonna talk a
little bit more about this throughout the show, but the
way this kind of milks in with what we're talking
about today and today excuse me, is communism is on
the rise. Communism is something that people I've been talking
about this for years on my UH show on Facebook, Live, Twitter,

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and YouTube by simulcasts. It's called the experts to do
it every night at nine pm. And I've been talking
about the real realization that communism is on the move
for several years and people just don't get it. Now
all of a sudden, uh, main even mainstream media and
many politicians that you would never have thought would be

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going against groups like antiphil like uh, Nancy Pelosi is
talking about there's violence on the other side, um. The
Diane Feinstein was talking about how she does not agree
with what's going on uh in Berkeley. Now they don't
go as far as to condemn it and say it's communism,
but they are recognizing it. And and Antifa is getting

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the cajones uh that they think they have, uh, these cohones,
but they really do not. They're gonna see that they're
gonna wake up a giant. It's already being woken up. Um.
But they are not as mighty as they believe that
they are. So I'm gonna bring on a group of
experts today to talk about all the different areas where

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communism has seeped into this country, not just recently. This
has been going on for literally over a hundred years,
but recently it has increased exponentially, probably and most likely
because of the use of social media, the use of
um our, cell phones, the use of computers, and so

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on and so forth. So it's just gotten easier for
people to actually communicate and spread whatever special interests they have.
Communism has definitely been able to use this stuff and
increase the speed at which they subvert this country. So
that's the That is uh why I thought. You know,
when I get to host these shows periodically for Sean,

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I like to bring in some type of a subject
that I can quickly give to people and they can
take away from the show and say, wow, this this
three hours changed my life and now I'm gonna see
things completely differently. So I'm here to plant seed, some
Johnny apple seed today, planting some seeds in you. So

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that is directly how the book Sheep No More, Uh
The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It's available on
Amazon now, this is for pre order. This is why
I wrote this book for the sheer reason of teaching everybody,
uh from to think like an attacker, to look at

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your life and how it could be attacked, but from
an attacker's point of view, so you can turn around
and defend properly. But it also applies to all this,
not just your individual life, but also who's attacking the country,
who might attack your work? Um, are you will you
be caught up in some area with some group that
you've never heard of before because you did not have

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the awareness of the changing events in this country. That's
very possible, folks, It's very possible. So we're gonna do
our best today to help you see, um, who these
enemies actually are and how you can counter these people.
So go to Amazon, pre order the book. Get ready
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listening right now, which I know that you do, sometimes
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be mistaken for ordering this book. Um, it will help
you see things from an unconventional warfare attack or point
of view. Now we're gonna take a break here in
just a second. But what I actually two minutes. But

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what I want to stress is that if you're tuning
into this showed in, you're like, where is Sean. Sean
is on vacation. That guy works like nobody I've ever
seen before. So when he goes on vacation, he calls
in the Warrior Crew to come in here and handle
the studio for him. So that's what we're here today for.
So don't go away. This is just gonna be you know,
you tune in on your way home or you're hopefully

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if you're driving because you're getting ready to go on
your vacation early, you're gonna be able to tune into
this and actually listen for three hours and get a
full course crash course on how communism has seeped into
this country and how the things that you're seeing every
day on television are signs and symptoms of subversion, whether

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it be the mainstream media, whether it be uh politicians
who claim to be conservatives but yet do not back
the President of the United States when he's trying to
do effective things, whether it be the generals who have
all been politicized and refused to get in step with
the way the president thinks and the way that we

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can effectively fix our military. We've got ships going all
over the place crashing into other ships. I don't get it.
We have still to this point not turned our our
strategic thinking and the way we're fighting terrorism, for instance,
we have not completely come to a point where we're
looking at it from a full strategic point. It still

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has too much politics involved. And I don't blame the
president for that. I blame the politicization of the d
O D, which has been happening since nine when Are
the first UH Secretary of Defense was was created and
stepped into that role. And from that point forward, we've
never won about a war. We've won battles, We've never
won a board a war. The only reason we win

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battles is because men on the ground that know exactly
what to do tactically are stepping up and taking command.
But when it comes to the overall strategic picture, we failed.
All of this goes back to the point that I'm
trying to make here. The way that you secure your life,
the way that you secure your homeland, the way that

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you secure your job, your family, everything, your entertainment, where
you go out. How do you secure these things? I'll
tell you how you do it. You become aware. So
stay tuned. You need to stay tuned for the whole show.
I America will not let you down. It's John Nanguil.

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I'm filling in for Shaun Handy on the Shawn Handy
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going on. And don't forget about my book. I'm gonna
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This is Jonathan Gillen filling in for Sean Hannity on
the Sean Hannity Radio Show. And you you yourself. You
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nine one seven, three to six. You know, folks, Uh,
I am constantly, constantly talking to people about the reality
of natural disasters. Now, what happened in Houston, I think, well,
we can't say that it's any different than any other
hurricane that's come in and just uh laid the smack
down on places. I mean, this one just seemed to

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be hanging around for a little bit longer. But the
reality is with all these natural disasters, the biggest problem
that we have really is that we think it's never
gonna happen to us. I mean people even though they've
lived in a flood zone or because they've lived in
here's like New Orleans for instance, you just get comfortable.
And look, I'm not putting anybody down. This is human
nature to become complacent with whatever threat maybe against you.

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That's the way it works. Um, It's happened now in Houston,
and as you can see, the widespread flooding and people's
homes are being destroyed. Here's what I want to talk
about today. Everybody's talking about what's happening right now, and
and that's good. The news is covering it. Uh, people
are going out there. You have the Cajun Navy. I
my heart. I get a little flustered in my heart

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when I watch how many people are responding to this.
I think this kind of of outpour of response should
be done anywhere that there's a natural disaster in this country.
I do want to point out though, that, as I've
been talking about awareness from the beginning of this show,
I believe that people and I've lived in rural areas.
I grew up in the ozarks of Arkansas, in the

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middle of nowhere, extremely poor. I live in Manhattan now
extremely poor. I'm not Rick Oner, I'm not Sean Hannity.
I'm you know, I have a real income coming in.
These guys have gone to a level success I hope
I to get to one day. But um, there's a
big difference in living in the city and living in
the country. When you're raised in a rural area, you

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are just more self sufficient. Now, I'm not putting people
down that live in the city. I'm not. This has
nothing to do with liberal conservative When you live in
a city you become i uh less self sufficient because
everything is there that you need. If something happens, law
enforcement will respond in a matter of sometimes seconds, sometimes minutes,
but they're gonna be there. You need an ambulance, it's

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gonna get there quick. When you live in a rural area,
you may not have police response for ten minutes, thirty minutes.
Police themselves may not get back up for uh an
hour in some locations, and if you want an ambulance,
you could be dead before the ambulance arrives. It may
take that long if it's a serious enough injury. Living

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in the South, you have to be more self reliant.
So why am I saying this, Well, that's where awareness
comes from. Just because you have you have not had
anything happened to you, and you live in a flood
zone or you live in an area that's ravaged by
hurricanes or tornadoes, you should realize that the potential is

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always there. Now, don't worry about the numbers when it
comes through preparing yourself. Don't worry about the the probability.
That's a numbers game that you will lose if you
play the probability game, because the prob the the possibility
is gonna be a hundred percent that it will eventually happen.
It may take five years, it may take a hundred
But if you're live in a flood, zona, hurricane, or

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a tornado zone, those things or even a we which
we haven't had in a long time, an earthquake zone,
these are natural disasters and you have to be somewhat
prepared on how you're going to act, not react. As
we say in law enforcement, military action always beats reaction,
and so you have to prepare yourself. Now here's the

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other thing. Real quick, I want to say, this outpouring
that we're seeing in Houston is phenomenal. The the smaller towns,
we need to make sure that they are also getting
the outpour because what what A lot of what I
see is going directly into the cities, into the larger towns,
and that's great, they need it. There's more people there.

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But the rural areas, the law enforcement, the police departments,
the first respond uns and aiblans, they're not as robust
as they are in the big city locations. So we
need to remember that, and as people respond that, we
need to make sure that they are being task organized
and if they have enough in the big city areas
that they are also that those resources are being allotted

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to the smaller towns that can be affected. And also
you have to realize, America, that when the floodwaters subside
and and all of a sudden you see greenery again
and the trash is cleaned up, that is really where
the real work starts, and that's where people are going
to need you. That's when the money is gonna need

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to pour in. That's when a lot of people should
be going down there and volunteering. Volunteering doesn't just take place,
or shouldn't just take place the second that something happens.
It should also take place long after the initial uh
incident or disaster where people are now living in pain.
You feel that immediate pain, but you can't kind of

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relieved because you're a lot five, because you got your dog,
your kids. But after all that people are gone and
all that subsides of thank the Lord, I'm alive, you're
now stuck with I'm alive and living in Squalor. It's
John the Gill and filling in for Shawn Handy on
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and a white baby blood that white baby flood after you,
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them all right, now, kill them, kill your grandkids, kill
yourself cough and laying a coffin. Wow. Wow. You know,
Folks's John and gill And filling in for Shawn Hannity

(19:13):
on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. That is a perfect example.
You know, listen, I come on this show. A lot,
and all the different shows that I fill in host for,
and I tell my resume, I don't do it because
I have an ego. There's not an ounce of ego
in here. I do everything that I've done for this
country because I love this country. I love the freedom,

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I love the constitution. I love what we went through
to get to this point. I wish that nobody would
have ever suffered. But we had slaves in this country,
and they because of the Constitution, we're able to. Their
legacy is what we live on now. Because of the
price that they paid, we are for everyone is free.

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I can't understand why people don't get it. At least
I did for a long time, and then I started
realizing that the majority of people that are angry in
this country now based on race has very little to
do with racism, and it has more to do with
believe it or not. And I know there's gonna be
people that disagree with me on this, but the reality

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is it doesn't come down to daily oppression. It comes
down to daily indoctor nation from the mainstream media and
groups like Black Lives Matter that, ultimately, when you dig
into their background, have communistic ties and so I just happened. Um.
I know he's a friend of the Hannity Show already,

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but somebody gave me a contact last week that I
was looking for somebody to talk about Black Lives Matter
because I don't like digging into this stuff unless I
know everything that there is to know about it, and
that I just don't know the background of this group.
So it's interesting because Uh, Lauren and myself both were
thinking who we could bring on, and I just talked

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to Ron Dr Ron Martinelli last week. Uh. The more
I learned about Dr Ron Uh, the more I'm so
glad that he's my contact for this because uh not
only is an attorney, but he's also UM a former
San Jose police detective. He is an expert in forensic

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UH services and UM and and all around UH in
depth expert, which he wrote a book about it, Black
Lives Matter movement and the war on police. Uh. Doctor,
I couldn't think of anybody else to come on here
and talk about this. The more I look at your qualifications,
the question I have for you is there, uh doctor,

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are is Black Lives Matter steeped in communism to the
point where it's starting to look like they are like
the rest of these groups, Antifa and and the other groups. Well, first, Jonathan,
thank you so much for for having me on my
program and on your program. And for full disclosure. Listen,
I'm not an attorney, but I stated a holiday and
why I thought you were an attorney, stranger. No, no, okay,

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you just went up a level. You just went up
a level in my eyes. They listen, uh, you know,
to answer your your questions. Specifically the black and I've
traced the Black Lives Matter to their roots. I've spoken
with the the the actual real founding UH members of
the Black Lives Matter movement. It's so interesting that I'm
seeing a lot of people on television claiming to be

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a founding member. They are not. The founding members are
Patrice Colour's, Opal Tomati, and Alicia Garza, and they are
from a combination of New York City and UH Berkeley, California,
out there in the People's Republic. They are the people
that started Black Lives Matter back in as a result

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of two things, UH. Number one the self defense shooting
George Zimmerman UH and also later Michael Brown, which was
an officer involved shooting. Specifically, I've traced them to different
parts of the world. I've done completely vetted research all
in the book, and they are a militant Marxist organization

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that gets funding from a variety of sources. One of
the biggest funding sources is George Soros and some of
the sub funding groups he has because he's kind of
a secretive guy, but backs a number of socialist, anarchists
and revolutionary groups throughout the world. And uh there Uh,

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their treatise goes back to the Black Guerrilla Family, the
Black nationalist movement of the of the sixties, the police
killers from the sixties and seventies. Uh, it's a very
anti law enforcement, anti democratic government, militant Marxist without a doubt,

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even if you read their own doctrines. So I you know,
I think people are going to be very surprised in
hearing this. Um, how do they? So you have these three,
these three individuals that started this. How did they get
to a point? Of course, funding always has something to
do with it. How did they get to the point

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where they are as big as they are? Was it? Um?
Was it? Because they were able to quickly go in
and stir up the Obviously they're not telling everybody that
their Marxists. Were they able to go into these UM
community activists, did they link up with people like the
Saul Lensky Heights? What exactly did they do to spread
so quickly? Well, I think the primary reason that they

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spread is because, first of all, these three women are
all extremely intelligent. Uh. They all have master's degrees, one
has master's degree in communication UH. And social media has
a really help them. That's how the group really sprung
into life by a actually a text on Instagram UH

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and also on Facebook from one of the founding members
to to the other founding members after the George Zimmerman
shooting and uh and and they said one of the
comments that was made is black Lives Matter. And then
they went ahead and put a hashtag to that uh

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and subsequently used their communications and social media skills to
start an organization, and then that organization spread the different
parts of the country in various chapters. But those people
that say that their founding members are not they're not
telling the truth. I think everybody's trying to, you know,
claim a little bit of um uh notoriety by saying that.

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And by the way, the thing that's very interesting about
Alicia ople and Patrice is. You almost never see them
on television opining about anything. However, they go out to
uh to community meetings. UH. There is another lady who

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is a professor at cal State Los Angeles and her
name is Professor Abdullah, and she is very prominent UH
in the Los Angeles um activist community, and she's very
much against law enforcement and the people in the corrections field,
and she's constantly advocating for them. And as a matter

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of fact, I think she is involved in the Human
Relations Commission for the County of Los Angeles. So these
people are very active, but they get they get other
people to do their work for them. Right, No, No,
I'm Graham Agreen with you. So in saying that, you
know that they do get other people to do their

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work for them, how do or where do they reside?
How do people start to focus in on these three individuals. Well,
you know, let me say this, because there's so many
people in primarily the mainstream media, knows nothing about Black
Lives Matter, and they think it's a socially conscious group
UH that are there to provide you know, community oversight

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the law enforcement and and really that's not the goal
of this organization to provide oversight or anything. And there
are The way the organization breaks down, uh is that
there are the founding members, and then there are people
that are chairs or chapter presidents, and then the rest

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of the people are basically just anybody that would support
or encourage Black Lives Matter, and that could be anybody, um,
but the Black Lives Matter is a black nationalist Marxist
organization and there's no doubt about it. And if you
listen to their lectures, you can. You don't have to
pay you know, believe me. All you have to do

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is start doing some Internet research and listen to their videos,
watch their videos, watch their television, and listen to their
radio interviews. UH, get on their websites and see what
they're all about. There is absolutely no doubt. And I
call it, with regards to law enforcement, the four d s.
They want to disenfranchise and disassociate law enforcement from the

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from the mainstream community, and then they want to uh
defund law enforcement, and they want to dissolve law enforcement.
So I call it the four d S. And if
you watch everything that they're doing, they do not want
to participate in remedies to bring the community and law

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enforcement closer together. They want to completely defund it. And
if you go into Black Lives Matter, uh, they have
a and you all you have to do is google
campaign zero. And I write about all of this in
my book. You can see the ten objectives of the
Black Lives Matter movement with respect to law enforcement, and

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almost all of it is negative. There was only a
couple of things that I agreed with out of a ten.
What was the other second you said, disenfranchise, defund, dissolved.
I'm missing one of the these. Uh, let's see disenfranchise, disassociate, defund,
and dissolve. Interesting. So they need they need to separate
the community from law enforcement, right if you're gonna and

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and and how they do that is with a lot
of fake news. You know, I wrote about many cases,
the Michael Brown case, uh TA Mere Rights, which was
which was a case that I that I personally was
involved in, uh Freddie Gray. There's been a number of cases,
and they put out a lot of fake news about
how law enforcement has responded to those things, and they

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get people believing in the Black Lives Matter movement. And
let me tell you something, it has nothing to do
with all black lives. Only in black lives for instance,
all of the shooting deaths in Chicago, they could care
less about it. You never see them protesting, you never
see them marching. Uh, it's never about you know, black

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lives in the black community. It's only certain black suspects
lives that they care about. And again, anything to separate
the community from law enforcement. Do you think we got
about a minute and a half left? Do you think
that um. Similarly to all these other communist groups that
try to divvy up and dissect the country into different agitators,

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do you think that these people truly understand uh, the
way communism works, that they will be the ones the
first ones killed if there was ever a communist government
in this country. No, you know, here's the here's the
problem that we have nationwide with Americans. They don't teach
civics in school anymore. They haven't done that for years. Okay,

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So nobody knows what the rights are, how their government
was found in, how the government works. They don't know
anything about law enforcement, how law enforcement of the criminal
justice system works. Number two, they have no history. They
don't teach history anymore, so there's no context to what
we remember as the black Shirts, which were the fascists
and the brown Shirts, which were the National Socialists or
the Nazis, or they don't know anything about communism. So

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these people gravitate towards these organizations for what they refer
to as social justice. And it's very vague and ambiguous
as to what social justice is. But all you have
to do is watch what they do and listen to
what they say. And these people are communists, anarchists, national socialists,

(31:39):
and fascists, is no doubt. Gotta go, doctor, Thank you
very much. I sure to appreciate it. I'll tell more.
Dr Ron Martinelli. I can't thank you enough. We're gonna
go to a break right now. We get a heartbreak
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in the last hour with Dr Ron Martinelli. Incredible guy.

(35:23):
You can look him up online if you want to
know more about him, and I suggest that you do
in his book Black Lives Matter in the War on Police.
But I've I've interviewed our next guest many many times.
I interviewed him about a week and a half ago
or two weeks ago on news Max, interviewing before on
this show. And I think now that you understand, hopefully
if you've been listening to this whole show, you'll understand

(35:44):
that even groups like Black Lives Matter, that claim could
be had to have the best interest for um, a
specific group of people in this country. The reality is
it's just another way for Marxist to get in and
secrete themselves into uh, every aspect of this country to
subvert it. David Horowitz, Um, he is I think probably

(36:09):
the voice that everybody needs to be hearing right now
because of the fact that communism is rising as fast
as it is. He's the author of the Big Agenda,
President Trump's plan to save America and a former communist.
David is great. Is always to have you on this show.
He's having me. So I had earlier in the show,

(36:30):
I had some of you talking about Black Lives Matter
and the reality of the three people who started it,
how they're Marksist, separatist. UM. I went back and watched
the show today that was actually from news Max UM.
I watched one night and I recorded. It was about
the creation of how communism came about, how Marks Hagel,

(36:51):
Lennon Stalin, Um, all the different individuals that brought it
to where it is historically. But what I've noticed through
all this, and I think the people and even though you,
you know, you're speaking a lot, and we we have
you and other voices out there, I think people are
disconnected from the point of the Marks Stallin Lenen types

(37:14):
the Cold War to today. They don't understand how it
continued to grow and got to the point that it's
at well, it never went away. That's that's the important point.
I did you know? For thirty years I've been warning
about the nature of this left, and it's only with

(37:35):
the election of Barack Obama that conservatives are finally seeing
these are not liberals, um, but they are communists. Uh.
And what happened was after the sixties they infiltrated the schools,
universities and unfortunately that Kate Well schools are kind of

(37:56):
wide open spaces, um. And they became professors and teachers
and um. They never gave up their views, but they
didn't until recently a little bit. They tried to mask them.
And that's what left us do. They lie all the
time about their agendit. Uh. You have to remember uh

(38:24):
that in um, when I was a young man, in
the height of the Cold War, when Joseph Stalin was alive,
the communist slogan, the official slogan was peace, jobs in democracy.
Unfamiliar crap about social justice or peace or whatever it is. Equality. Um,

(38:47):
that's all just a mask for communists. They don't tell
you what they're real agenda is, but now they're showing it.
It's to shut everybody down and disagrees with them. That's
what the that's what the Sylviet kind in the state
they called their opponents fascists. They accused, for example, Leon Trotsky,
who was one of the leaders of the Bolshevik Revolution

(39:09):
in nineteen seventeen, of you know, including uh with the fashions,
so with the nasties, that's what they said. And then
put my part and said that everybody and shut them down,
of course, and in communist Russia they executed You believe me,
that will happen here if the antipop people ever get power.

(39:29):
So the other thing I noticed when I was watching
and going through this show the history of communism, was
that they were using the term democratic socialists all the
way back then, and uh, go ahead, yeah, well the
social democrats. Actually Lennon was a social democrat. Um, it's

(39:49):
a contradiction in terms, you can't have socialism and democracy.
Democracy is based on the rights of the individual, independence
of the indivi a dual. Those elucidents about government controlling
every day. So I mean, just just take something that's
everybody is aware of now, which is the Democratic Party's

(40:11):
plan to socialized medicine in America's personal Obamacare, but ultimately
through single payer. What does that mean? That means the
government has control of your life. Yeah, you know, your
health is your life and it be ration and controlled
by the government, have all your information. So there's no

(40:34):
democratic socialism. But yeah, they use any camp progressive. My
parents were card carrying communists. They are never referred to
themselves as communists because they were aware that people were
hostile and communism in those days who was always they
were progressive. You know what you're seeing now that Nancy
Pelosi for instances condemning Antifa for violence in California. Um,

(40:59):
there's pressure the Democrats, UH to from for Antiva movement
to be canceled for free speech rally in San Francisco. Um,
you've gone and said that the Charlottesville and I agree
with you. Here is the biggest fake news story of
the summer. Uh. Do you think people like Nancy Pelosi,
UM actually are seeing what's going on? Or are they? No? No, no, no, no, no,

(41:22):
no no no. Nancy Pelosi is a communist. Nancy Pelosi
actually gave a speech on the floor. There's something congressmen
are allowed to do, honoring our hero, you know, creating
a day for him or something. Her hero was Harry Bridges,
who was a Soviet agent. He was ahead of the
West Coast Long Storm and in the United States, he

(41:46):
was in Australian said, trying to deport him throughout the
Cold War, and he always lied and said that he
wasn't um Soviet agent and he wasn't a communist, he said,
but he was actually on the Central Committee of the
Communist Party. Nancy Pelosi is a very smart political operative

(42:07):
where you don't forget her her vision, her moral political vision,
but just tactically, she's a very smart woman. I think
she's done this late. I think they should have The
Democratic Party should have condemned Antipa long before. But it's
of course it's not just antipap. What did Black Lives Matter?

(42:30):
They burned up, you know, a black city Ferguson, they
killed cops. Uh, they organized violence and then and I mean,
how is that different from Antipa said they weren't stupid
enough to get dressed up in black, and well they
did wear a mask. Um, but the fact that Black
Lives Matter is black and you know, makes them somewhat untouchable. No,

(42:54):
but nobody wants to Uh, there's no equality in our
public life. If black people get a free pass for violence,
uh and and for racism, black Lives Matter is also
a racist organization. So what I think you know, Nathy
is just signaling to the Democratic Party. These people have

(43:15):
become a big liability. Let's but there's Black Lives Matter,
there's by any means necessary, the head of the mayor
of Berkeley is a member of by all means necessary, exactly.
And actually on my website front Page magazine we did
a profile of uh Polark I forget her first name,

(43:37):
as a leader. She's a raising communist. I don't want
to say anything else. She's a horror psychopath. And the
Democratic Party is in bed with all these people. So
do you think David David Horowitz joined us? And just
in case you're a just tuning in, do you think
David that um that these leaders that we see I've

(43:59):
heard rooms of this before. And this is the way
that I know that the Communists did it in the
Soviet Union. That people are cultivated for these leadership positions.
It's not like Barack obamagists sprung up and became this
great politician, or Nancy Pelosi came out of nowhere. It's
that they were literally cultivated for this leadership. That sounds
very conspiratorial, but is that the case with many of

(44:21):
these people. That's the case. I wrote a book called
The New Lebias, and the first chapter is called the
Making of a President. It shows how Barack Obama, and
it's because he was black, but because he was also
very articulate, uh and um that all these left wing

(44:43):
foundations and organizations promoted him and groomed him for you know, leadership.
The fact that he was elected president shows how, you
know what Abraham Lincoln said, you can fool all the
people some of the time and some of the people
all of the time, but you can't throw all of

(45:03):
the people all of the time. Let me Barack Obama
got like this, if I can say. I've done a
series of books at the website called Black Book of
the American Left and volume one it's really about how
the communist movement didn't go away when the Soviet Union failed.

(45:25):
Some of the union was exposed. It was a horror.
They killed forty million people just in Russia, um uh,
and they impoblished the whole continent. It was a complete catastrophe.
And what the left at the time said was, oh,
that wasn't real socialism, as though they're smarter than uh,
you know whatever, Lenin and Trotsky and all these people,

(45:48):
that wasn't real socialism. And so they just went on
with the same views and they were you know, there
were a few of us who got out, but the
bulk of them stayed. And in this first that's called
My Life and Times, Volume one, um I described it.
Let me let me ask you this, right, and we
only got about a minute and a half. Um. The

(46:12):
whole premise of my show today is to teach people
how to be aware of these things. That's the new
book that I wrote, um sheep, no more. How do
people what are some key things? Real quick? Got about
a minute that they can look for that they will
know this person is a communist when they're talking. Well,
as I thank sin sale liars, that's not so easy

(46:34):
what they've done here. Here's what's happened. They took Marxist model,
which said that society has divided into oppressors and oppressed,
and for him, the oppressors were capitalists and the oppressed
were workers, and they transformed it into a racial thing. Uh,
this is what identity politics is. About. Um. Nobody is oppressed,

(46:58):
and you hear people talking about oppression, they're deluded or
they're just taking to it. I mean, there are a
lot of people who just foolish. There are sixty five
million refugees in the world today of people who are
fleeing oppression. Not one of them is fleeing oppression in America.
Mexicans and Haitians are risking their lives to get to America.

(47:24):
And why is that? Because they have more rights, more privileged,
more opportunities in America than they do in Mexico or Haiti,
which have been run by Hispanics and blacks for hundreds
of years. It's because of the genius of the American
founders that this is the case. But when you hear
people going on about oppression, uh and white supremacy, anybody

(47:45):
who says that should be in the mental institution. America
is not a white supremacist nation, and the number of
white supremacists are is minuscule. They are marginal people. Lessons
always talking about marginalized groups, well, neo nasty's and white
supremacist marginalized. They can't put your heads up listen. I

(48:07):
gotta cut it right there. Um, again, David Horwitz. I'm
a huge fan. I think your voice needs to be
out there. You're the author of the Big Agenda, President
Trump's plan to save America and I can't thank you enough.
As always, David, thank you, Thank you got it. This
is Johnathan gill And filling in for Shawn Hannity on
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(49:32):
know what that this is Johnathan Gillam filling in for
Shawn Handy on the Shawn Handy radio show. And you
know what that reminds me of? That that reminds me
living in New York. I used to take my dogs
to dog parks when I first came here, but they
end up getting Kenel costs, so I never went back
to those. But when you go there and uh, it
gets a little overpopulated, and then there's one dog that
comes in there and raises a ruckus uh, the other

(49:55):
dog's feed off that frenzy, and then it will just
turn into if you don't have good owners, into a fight,
a big frenzy of a fight. They worked themselves up
into that. And this this is so controlled animalism. That's
what this is like. These people when they get to
these protests, not really protests or disruptives. I don't know
what you want to call him, but you know, I'm

(50:16):
I'm gonna bring on just a second. Dr Paul Kanger.
I interviewed him yesterday on the Andrew will cow Uh
show willcal Majority on Serious X and Patriot Channel, and
I just thought I didn't get enough out of that interview.
I needed to have more and I thought bringing him
on after David Horowitz, who we actually talked about yesterday,
is perfect. But the thing that I am puzzled with

(50:39):
is at what point does America move understand and start
looking at the difference between free speech and violent action. Um.
And so what we talked about yesterday with the doctor
is about how communism secreted itself into the educational sector.
So Dr, welcome back, your professor political sign an author

(51:01):
of over a dozen books. I gotta tell you, I
just got through writing one book, Sheep No More. It's
available now on Amazon. But when I went on your website,
you are a very busy writer. You've written an amazing
amount of books, including the communist Frank Marshall Davis untold
story of Barack Obama's mentor UM. So let me ask you.

(51:23):
We talked yesterday about how communism got into the educational sector.
I was very surprised, and I guess it really boiled
down to this that Columbia University was where and I
forgot with the group. I wrote a whole list of
stuff you said to inderstrand I threw it away when
I walked out by accident. But university Columbia University here
in New York. Um is where this kind of secreted

(51:46):
itself in and then went from Ivy League down all
the way into grade schools. Now, well that's right, Jonathan,
and and and thanks and and the reason I write
so many of these books is it's therapy, right for
try for trying to uh to deal with it. I
feel tormented by this stuff, you know. I sometimes I
say to myself, I wish I didn't know what I know, right, um.

(52:09):
But but every day, you know, I check UM. I
check the websites of Communist Party USA, People's World, which
is the flagship publication for Communist Party USA. It's the
successor to the Soviet controlled Daily Worker. UM, I checked
the Workers World Party. I check Revolutionary Communist Party USA.

(52:32):
And you know, people think that, well, that's kind of
kookie that I do. Well for for one thing, it's
it's just what I do. It's what I follow, it's
what I write about. But you know, if you type
in like right now, Revolutionary Communist Party USA, which has
been around for a long time, and they are always
they specialize in racial agitation. In particular, they were at Ferguson,

(52:55):
they were at all these other different places, and they
actually have a branch and Arlettsville, and in fact they
have I mean, anybody's sitting at their website right now,
type in the words Revolutionary Communist Part of USA, Charlottesville,
and I think you're gonna be pretty stunned by by
what you see there. You're gonna get, depending on which
page you get, you're gonna get propaganda posters of Lenin,

(53:17):
propaganda posters of Stalin and uh. And it's kind of
ironic Lennon in Stalin because that's actually a malist organization.
And and in fact, the founder of Revolutionary Communist Part
of USA is a guy named Bob Avakian who goes
by the name Chairman Bob. And if and if you
go to that website, he's got a piece up there

(53:38):
right now posted in the lead window on Thomas Jefferson,
George Washington, James Madison all called out and the American
founders on racism, slavery, and white imperialism. So you know,
this might sound like kind of esoteric, fringe stuff, and
it is, but these people are now out there with
social media, and you're right, they've been educated in the universities,

(54:01):
so they're they're able to get a mob together really quick,
and sometimes the mob doesn't need to be more than
twenty or thirty people to to get the kind of
explosion that they need to get to get the battle
that they need. I mean, that's exactly what happened in Charlottesville.
So you ended up with neo Nazis and the so
called alt right clashing with um the far left, and

(54:24):
then pretty soon, you know, everyone in America is talking
about Charlottesville. So just when you think that these guys
don't really matter, well, you know, in in today's society,
with social media, they're able to wield a power and
an influence that they haven't been capable of in decades.
Really going back to probably that speaking of David Horowitz, right,

(54:46):
the New Left in the nineteen sixties, and even you know,
kind of the heyday of Communist Party USA in the
nineteen thirties, and they're all descendants of that group. Because
because they are, they are quite literally proud, um you know, abashed,
you know, no apologies, they they're communists. So you know,
listen to the tactician and me says that this organized

(55:10):
movement and subversive movement in this country, it's it's really global.
First of all, I think people need to realize that.
But it's you cannot see organization like this without somebody
pulling the strings. In other words, there's there's a hierarchy.
There's got to be a hierarchy. Where does this lead?
You know, George Soros always comes up. But George Soros,

(55:31):
to me, um represents having worked around organized crime. I
was never never fully worked an organized crime case like
the mob case. I would hit gangs and things like
that on the street, but there was always a money man.
George Soros reminds me of that money man. Um. But
where is this leading? Who is pulling the strings? Because

(55:51):
there's unknown figures has to be and I don't think
it's the Russians, like all these weirdos like this person
that wrote me here on Twitter says, talk about this
guy realizes that Putinin and the oligarchs have all the
money and power in Russia. Right, um, And and that's
the way Trump wants it. Well, what's the reality? Who
is controlling this? By the way, is it finally great

(56:12):
to have the Democrats hating the Russians? Right? You know?
You know, hey, you know the hey, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama,
you know the the eighties are calling they went their
foreign policy back right, yuck, yuck, yuck. I don't think
they really hate him, though, is that David Horrors was
saying a minute ago. He thinks Nancy Pelosi is one
of the UH is an operative for the Russian or

(56:32):
for not for Russians, toeing me for the communist and
that she is a very well trained UH communist politician. Yeah,
I heard him in the last half hour. He's great,
he's fascinating, he knows knows this stuff unlike anybody else.
In fact, he pointed out that his parents, who have
been card carry members of the Communist Party, called themselves progressives.
That's another common thing that they do. And what he

(56:54):
said about Nancy Pelosi, Um, she did indeed exactly as
David said. She went on to the floor of the
House of Representatives and gave a tribute to Harry Bridges,
who she called her hero. And you couldn't have gotten
farther to the left and Harry Bridges and a flat
out admire of Harry Bridges was a guy named Frank
Marshall Davis, who actually you know, worked at you with

(57:18):
those guys in Hawaii, which is exactly where Harry Bridges
was and and Frank Marshall Davis was Barack Obama's mentor.
So so you you you can't make this up. But
on the sort of you know, who's behind it and
the global roots of it, I mean, there's in a way.
This is what's kind of frustrating, Jonathan is it's hard
to pinpoint. You know, I heard your guests a couple

(57:40):
of segments ago talking about the kind of founding people
in Black Lives Matter, and and that was good stuff.
It's good. It's good that somebody's trying to pin that down.
Um Antifa is really hard to pin down. It's really
hard to figure out exactly who's behind that. You know,
Revolutionary Communist Party USA. You can point to people like

(58:00):
Bob Avakian, but but it's really just this sort of web,
this wider group of of leftists. And give you an
example of this, Uh, if if you go to and again, sorry,
but this is the kind of world that I have
to deal with. If you go to the publication Workers World,
and I know people again are gonna think this is
really fringe stuff. Well, Workers World, that group was actually

(58:23):
involved in fact, three activists with ties to the Workers
World Party were arrested and charged with felonies for their
roles in the toppling of the Confederate statue in Durham,
North Carolina. And and and yeah, and if if you go,
if you go to the website of Workers World May eleven,
the editor there wrote an editorial, and I'm I'm quoting

(58:45):
right right here in front of me. Quote Workers World
stands in solidarity with the DPRK. That would be North Korea.
It's people and its leaders in defense of their sovereignty
and social system unquote their pro North Korea. They're pro Kim.
That's Workers World, and that's a group that was agitating

(59:07):
in Dorham to topple the Confederate statue. Now this doesn't
mean and you know, I hate that we always have
to say this, but we should. It doesn't mean that,
you know, every cirt, every single person who was in
favor of tearing down the Confederate statue and dorm is
a pro Kim, pro North Korea communists right associated with
the Workers World Party. But what's always frustrated me, this

(59:30):
is why I talk about about dupes, is people on
the left, the sort of general wider softer left progressives
as David Horrwich says, and even liberals, you know, genuine
good hearted liberals who aren't far left radical leftists, how
easily their buttons can be pushed, how they can be
brought into the rallies. And and communists have been doing

(59:53):
this in America since literally the nies and nineteen thirties,
to the point where you could turn out a rally
of you know, ten thousand people in the nineteen sixties
of pro protests the Vietnam War, and nine thousand, eight
hundred of them are just everyday college kids. They're looking
to smoke some pot and pick up girls, and and
and and protests going to the war. But the other

(01:00:15):
two hundred are working for the weather underground SDS have
some association with Communist Party USA. So it's always these
kind of uh, really truly conspiring behind the scenes, um
forces even farther to the left that are really good
at organizing and turning out these wider mobs among the

(01:00:37):
wider left. So do you think when I look at
this globally and we look at how groups like are
not groups but leaders like Trudeau in Canada, we have, uh,
we have we have leaders in Australia in Spain and France,
in Great Britain that have they don't, you know, build

(01:00:57):
their resume and climb the ladder to get to the top.
All these people came to power at the same time
Barack Obama did, and they just boom boom boom, and
all of a sudden, communists who call themselves socialists are
at the top of all these countries. That cannot happen
without money and coordination. And when you see the movement,
especially if Antifa all across this country and all across

(01:01:22):
the globe, I just cannot. Guy, can't, for the life
of me get past the thought that there's somebody at
the top. There has to be a chain of command
that is organizing this. It's just to the guy. A
couple of segments back, was it was that Martinelli, Ron Martin,
Dr Ron Martinelli. Yeah, and he he was. He was

(01:01:42):
pointing out, I think this is exactly right. It's it's
sometimes it is people with money that are behind it,
at George Soros type and so forth. But but really, Jonathan,
the biggest problem has been that we have failed to
teach in our colleges, in our public schools or government schools.
You know, we we we failed to teach this history
of the Cold War and the communist movement. And I mean,

(01:02:05):
I'm not I'm not making this up when I say
that for a lot of people on the left, James Burnham,
the the the the late great ex communists said, for
the left, the preferred enemy is always to the right right.
They never denounced the people on their own fringe. Which
is why when Donald Trump held that press conference a
couple of weeks ago and tried to blame both sides

(01:02:26):
for this, you know, the reporters in CNN and the
New York Times and the others just lost their minds
because the left doesn't do that, right, the liberals, they
don't condemn their far left. They don't even see it.
For them. I'm not exaggerating in this. To them, Joe
McCarthy is a bigger villain than Joe Stalin. And and
you know, you could probably press them and say, okay,

(01:02:47):
come on, come on, come on, you really really who's worse.
Let's say, okay, alright, alright, Stalin killed thirty million people
and McCarthy jailed some people. Maybe didn't kill anything, but
but you know, one hundred times, you know they're gonna
drop all over McCarthy, not Stalin. Listen, I gotta break
it there. I cannot thank you enough. Two days in

(01:03:08):
a row. I'm gonna have you on my show, The
Experts That Do One, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube every night,
nine pm. I gotta have you on there as well.
Dr Paul Kanger, Professor political science and author of a
dozen books, Go and you'll see him. His latest one
is the Communist Frank Marshall Davis untold story of Barack
Obama's mentor. Thank you very much, Dr. This is Johnthan

(01:03:29):
Guillen will be right back. This is Jonathan Gillen filling
in for Shawn Hannity on the Shawan Hannity Radio Show.
I hope you all are seeing where we're going with
this today, because there is a a fine line that
that links all these different groups, Black Lives Matter, ANTIFA,

(01:03:53):
the Communist Party by all means necessary, which the uh,
the mayor of Berkeley belongs to. Nancy Pullo see being
called out as a communist by David Horrow. It's the
one man who would know if she's a communist, Um
all these people that they worship, Harry Bridges. She spoke
about her here hero Harry Bridges, on the floor of

(01:04:13):
our Congress talking about how he is her hero. Harry
Bridges is a known communist. Obama Frank Marshall Davis, that's
his hero, Hillary Clinton, Slowinsky another communist. All these people
love communists. Listen, you need to go and get my book.
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(01:04:59):
filling in while Sean is out relaxing. Hopefully call in
number which I gave the wrong one earlier. See I
fiell in on Serious X and Patriot Channel as well.
And I get these numbers mixed up all the time.
Eight hundred nine four one, seven, three to six. I
should just say at eight hundred nine for one Seawan,
that's as easy as it gets. I keep forgetting they
still have those uh those uh the letters on the phones.

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But um, listen, we've been talking all day today about
the reality of communism and the creep of communist house
now sprint. They're actually have been embedding themselves all over
our country, secreting into the educational sector, the entertainment sector, um,
even in sports. You've got them in politics on both

(01:05:42):
sides of the aisle, at your local, state and federal level.
You've got them in media, big time, in media and activism. Look,
community organizers. Salo Lensky, who was a communist, was also
Hillary Clinton's mentor. She wrote her college thesis about him,
and he is the modern day creator of of community activism.

(01:06:09):
So these people are all uh bred this way. Uh
A lot of them fell into it, but a lot
of them were brought up by communist parents. Is David
Horowitz was talking about earlier. And it's very important. As
I've been saying, I just I'm gonna bring this up again.
I just wrote a book. It's just went on sale
yesterday on Amazon. It's called Sheep No More. The Art

(01:06:31):
of Awareness and Attack Survival. And although that's a very
tactically sounding um title, and it is a tactical book
that teaches you how to target yourself from an attacker's
point of view, so you can build better defenses and
awareness in your life. It plays right along with what
we're doing today, teaching you the reality, the history, the

(01:06:53):
insights in the thinking and where the how to identify
these people so that you can defend the country again.
To remember when you swear an oath, for all those
of you out there that swore an oath law enforcement
and military whatever else, that you swore an oath for
intelligence work, you swore an oath to this country to
suspend it, to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign

(01:07:17):
and wait for it, and domestic. And we are faced
now with the domestic enemy in this country. So I'm
gonna round this up. I'm gonna round this show up
with a little bit of discussion about the Muslim Brotherhood. Now,
how does everybody saying, how are you Lincoln to Muslim
brotherhood with communists? What's called the Red Green Alliance, and

(01:07:39):
the Muslim Brotherhood has always attached itself to communist entities.
It's been going on for a very very long time.
We've known about it in this country is at least
since the seventies. But even Hitler had connections UH with
UH Muslims that hated Israel. For instance, back in the

(01:08:00):
World War two days. So reach out to Patrick Pool.
Patrick is a national security correspondent for PJ Media. And
you've done some significant studying of the Muslim Brotherhood, have
you not? Yes, Jonathan, thanks for having me. You got it.
So what I'm talking about communism today, But there's this
side fringe. Some people believe it's bigger than communism. I

(01:08:23):
think it's not bigger. I think it is uh either
parallel or where they use each other um for the
same purpose, which is um to overthrow freethinking in the country.
But how prevalent is the Muslim Brotherhood in our government
and how closely related are they with communism? Well we uh.

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Back in two thousand seven, two thousand eight, the largest
terrorism financing trial in American history, the wild Land Foundation trial,
the Justice Department went into federal court and late out
and said, here are all these organizations and individuals associated
with the Muslim Brotherhood. And the Justice argued that the
Hoyland Foundation funding HAMAS was a Muslim Brotherhood operation here

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in the United States. So the Justice Department identified these
organizations and individuals in federal court, and what we see
is some of those same organizations, like the Islamic Society
of North America, like the Council for Islamic Relations, are
some of the same groups that are government agencies and
personnel turned to to advise them. And as Congressman Louis

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Gohmert once famously um interactive with Janet to Politano, the
former d h S secretary, he said, you know, making
a play on there see something to say something. He said,
I can see a moss right at my office window,
you know, on New Jersey Avenue to block from Capitol Hill. UM,

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and I see him running around the hill, you know, constantly.
So yeah, I mean they're they're prevalent, They're very influential
and um, as I said earlier, the Justice Department said
in federal court that these people are Muslim brotherhood and
these organizations. It's very interesting. I think people don't realize that.

(01:10:17):
For instance, with the Blind sheik Uh, they found information
during that investigation that was closely tying this Muslim brotherhood
UM to the Communist Party. And I don't think also
people realize exactly who these people are in Washington c.
As far as uh the threat that they have, I
think a lot of people have an image of them

(01:10:39):
as being and that's one of the reasons when they're
in Washington, sen You're looking out and you're seeing these groups. Um.
They they have portrayed themselves as uh, the the spokespeople
for Muslims, which is absolutely And we saw this immediately
after the World Trates inter bombing, where you had the

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Muslim Brotherhood who have particularly back then they were flushed
with money from Saudi Arabia Cutter. They still get a
lot of money from Cutter and Turkey, and and they
presented themselves to the US government and said we can
be your mediaries, um, to the Muslim world. And they

(01:11:23):
basically positioned themselves and and both you know, I'm a
bi person critic in this regard. You know, we saw
them beginning to work with the Clinton administration, but they
were also making inroads into the Republican Party as well.
And uh, and what we see with we see a
lot of overlap, and particularly with the BDS movement trying

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to attack Israel. We see this overlap between the Communists,
you know, the International Workers Party and a lot of
these Muslim Brotherhood groups. And probably the person that you
know embodies this problem is Linda Sarsuwer to all the
media outlets are out pushing around is is the face

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of Muslims in America? And I hear from a lot
of Muslims like who, you know who when was there
an election for this person? I mean, who who has
admitted that she's got family members in Hamas, back in
Israel and the West Bank, um to to represent us?
And you know yesterday where she was um you know,

(01:12:30):
sending people to for Harvey relief, you know, to a
political action committee. I mean, she's just a detestable human being,
but she's the face of it. And and that's where
we begin to see the overlap between this leftist movement
and the Muslim Brotherhood. They actually have documents UM after

(01:12:50):
after nine eleven Swiss authorities rated basically the Muslim Brotherhood
foreign envoy use of not his home in camp you
own in Italy, and they found a document called the Project,
which I translated here several years ago and published it
UM front Page magazine. And and that document, which was

(01:13:11):
dated from about UM identified that they were going to
use these leftist movements to be to basically be able
to to mainstream themselves and give them cultural credibility, and
with the full intention that when in fact they were
able to get into power, they you know, they would

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cast them out, just like what happened in Iran in
nineteen seventy nine where you had the Two Day Party.
You know, who were the prime movers in the Iranian
Revolution and then you know, as soon as COMMANI caught
into power, he killed them all. So, uh, you know,
we we've seen this working model in operation in the
recent modern history. Yeah, I'm no a fan of Linda's

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stars hours most people are not. I had a little
running with a little friend of her his name to
Mika Mallory on a radio show. Who is has to be?
I would say the most racist person I've ever met
in my life, and uh, just a pure propaganda person.
And this is where Black Lives Matter and the Muslim

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Brotherhood have a connection through this. Linda Sarsour and Tamika
Mallory and all these people are part of these organizers
for like the Women's March, which people don't even realize
what they're getting involved with when they attend these things.
And this has nothing to do with the Muslim Brotherhood.
But this girl that was killed in Charlottesville, who was
ran over by a white supremacist and There's a reason

(01:14:38):
why I had purposely not talked about white supremacy today,
because I'm wanting people to see the reality of how
big this group of hate actually is, these communists, and
how they spread all across these secretive groups where you
can clearly see and sorry for this little rant here,

(01:14:59):
but you can clearly see the stupidity of of of
white Supremacis and neo Nazis. They don't hide how stupid
they are. This girl goes out and marches with Antifa
and gets killed by one of these neo Nazi people
when she got hit by a car, but she was
still marching with Antifa, and I can't It drives me

(01:15:19):
crazy when I see these marches and people have no
idea who they're who they're identifying with, and they don't
even understand that like the Muslim Brotherhood or Black Lives Matter,
any other Communists or Jehidah's group, is their linked together. Absolutely.
And I think even more disturbing is how even in

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the Trump administration, we have some of these Muslim Brotherhood
tied individuals and organizations who are still influential and are
still being sought. You know, I think the um Muslim
public Affairs Council, which was founded by an admitted the
apol Fassan Albana, the founder of the Muslim brotherhood. UM

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and and the they're just not just people. They've defended
his ballack killings of American soldiers. They've they've engaged in
blood libels against Jewish people. And and here they are, um,
you know, getting invited into the State Department, you know,
under Obama, getting invited into the White House. And they're

(01:16:27):
still there. That's the troubling thing is they're still there. Well,
that's the thing. I think that's troubling. A lot of
people and Americans are standing behind the President Trump, but
I think there needs to be a reassessment by people.
I would love it if the President would do this,
if he would slow down, get together a group of
people that are not from Washington d C. Experts. There

(01:16:49):
are experts that aren't from Washingt d C. There are
experts that are not generals and deputy directors and all
these political types. Um and there there we're waiting. We're
waiting for the President to call us, put together a
group and then start picking these people out and getting
rid of them. Well, that would be nice, um, you know,
a lot of the people who were in the administration

(01:17:11):
have been given the the right foot of fellowship already,
and um, you know how we go about that now?
You know, the first wave you know, landed on Omaha
Beach and and and they got you know, they got
wiped out. And so I think now we need to
you know, how how exactly can can we influence the

(01:17:32):
administration to say, hey, you know, this was this was
a problem under Bill Clinton, this was a problem under
George Bush, this was you know, accelerated exponentially under Obama.
You know, how do we begin to roll this back?
You know, Jonathan, I spent a lot of time in
the in the Middle least, particularly in Egypt. Um, you

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know where I've been researching the Brotherhood and talking with
experts over there and and their mystify, um, and at
at the influence of these organizations. And I'm talking about
devout Muslims who are just mystified at how the Muslim
Brotherhood is able to influence and they know who they

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are over there, you know, uh, you know, they tracked
these people too, and um, they're they're just like, how
how how did this happen? And I have to you know,
I spent about the first year of my trips back
and forth the Egypt trying to explain to them, you know,
this is how it happened. You know, it wasn't some
grand conspiracy. You know, it was just you know, the

(01:18:39):
frog in the pot and you know, suddenly it's um
and and here we are. Yeah, it's interesting. Listen. Okay,
so we've linked now Black Lives Matter, Antifa, communism, uh,
the Muslim Brotherhood. Um. So I think now we're going
to wrap this up over the next thirty minutes or

(01:18:59):
so in a show. Um, but we'll have you back
on again. Patrick Paul, I can't thank you enough for
coming on. This is the This was the the cream
on top of the whole thing to show people how
these connections are happening. So thank you very much. Pat Pool,
national security correspondent for PJ Media, Thank you very much.
This is Jonathan Gillham filling in for Shawn Hannity on

(01:19:21):
the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. I'm gonna give you the
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(01:19:42):
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(01:20:04):
a break. You gotta do it, okay, So you all
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(01:20:47):
your life. This is Jonathan Gillham filling in for Sean
Hannity on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. Listen. It's coming
up on a holiday weekend. I know you guys are
gonna be relaxing, and it's gonna be very important for
you to remember what I'm teaching you today, because when
there's natural disasters going on, or when there's things that
are getting everybody riled up, these communists, uh, and the

(01:21:08):
Black Lives Matter and the Antifa people and the Muslim
Brotherhood people who have all kind of banded together, they
are working, and they have been working in a very
covert manner, and not just overt, they're actually covert as well.
And they're spreading very quickly. In your educational sector, your
kids are getting indoctrinated faster than you can tell them

(01:21:29):
the truth. So it's okay to have a discussion with them.
Hopefully this show today has helped you out a little bit.
Have a discussion with them when you're sitting there and
they're looking at their phones because they're bored over the weekend,
have a talk with them. Let's go to Jay in
South Carolina. Jay, What do you got? Jay? Go ahead?
All right, John Brother? How you doing? What's going on with? What? What?

(01:21:53):
What scares me? Man? Is? When is? When? Isis? And uh,
you know, pretty much helpful of trade Antifa because they
all wear black. You know, they got the black flags
and and and um. You know, I'm uh a Democrat,
Republican or whatever. I'm surprised, you know, just Americans. I mean,
that's something we all should be concerned about. Well, you know,

(01:22:16):
here here's the thing like we are like um, the
guests was talking earlier about um about the Muslim brotherhood
over in Egypt and how even hard line Muslims over
there are like where are these people coming? What are they?
What is this thing that they're spewing. I think Americans
here in the United States are so accustomed, because of media,

(01:22:36):
to believe you are left, or you are right, you
are gay, you are straight, you're a woman, you're a man.
Um that they have they don't know how to look
past uh the definition of who they are or who
that person is. And I agree with you. If if
the Muslim Brotherhood UH and isis team up with Antifa

(01:22:58):
and BLM, there's gonna it's gonna be a problem because
already we're seeing violence increase. But even Antifa and these
people don't have the guts because they're a bunch of whims.
They don't have the guts to go out and do
the horrific things that ISIS does, right right, right, Okay, Yeah,
well I appreciate it. Man, Uh you got the job. Man,

(01:23:19):
you gotta thank you very much. And listen, you all
in South Carolina, you know you you all be safety.
Sure we haven't had any hurricanes come up that way,
but it's that season. And I just pray for all
you guys uh in those areas because of the rural
areas in South Carolina, all up and down the East
coast down in Florida, and pray for all those people
that haven't been hit yet that they'll be spared this year. Um,

(01:23:41):
let's go to uh is it? Min Mendale Mendel in Miami, Florida.
How do you say your name there? Hey? It's Mendel. Mendel,
go ahead, Mandel. Hey, um, you know I find that uh,
you know, Black Lives Matter and the Muslim Brotherhood have
the same m O. You know, they use the media
to try to prom um you know that their agenda.

(01:24:03):
For example, the Black Lives Matter they the attack cops
and Muslim Brotherhood attacks Israel, which are both a light
in the dark um where it is. And uh, you know,
they create sort of like um uh, they take away
the ability to debate because they say that debating is bad. Meanwhile,

(01:24:24):
debating actually promotes growth. Not only do they take it away,
but they're assisted in that um by what happened again
in Charlottesville, where you know, you have two groups. You
have Antifa, which is a communist party that hates the
constitution chance um no more USA. You have white supremacist
on the other side, who are separatists and who are

(01:24:45):
idiots left over from the era of of Nazism. And
they all show up there and the media only reports
that neo Nazi showed up. They don't report that communists
were on the other side. And what happens when you
do that, you are legitimizing a group of people that
globally over the past hundred years alone, have killed more

(01:25:06):
than a hundred and fifty million people. I know, we
allow their agenda to thrive by not standing up. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, listen.
I'm I'm glad. And this is one thing that's warming
my heart a little bit is that people like yourself
mental um uh the gentleman that just called I think
it was j from South Carolina. It really does uh

(01:25:27):
make me feel good that there are people all over
this country that are seeing what's going on. Of course,
you know, people just need to start uh standing up
besides for seeing. Yeah, listen, God bless you, Mendel, and
thank you very much. Great name. Uh, let's gonna go.
Let's go to Mike in New York. Go ahead, Mike. Yes,

(01:25:47):
I think what the show you did today is the
most important show I've heard in a long time. One
of the groups you mentioned, Revolutionary Communist Party. They're working
among street gangs, and they're inside prisons, and they have
to acts exempt status and they're soliciting funds. They want
to get more of their inflammatory literature into the prisons. Now.
I've been studying the communist movement for more than half

(01:26:09):
a century, mostly from within. So when I was a
kid years ago, the Communists said, what they want to
do with American youth, mostly minorities, particularly minorities, politicized, radicalized, militarized.
Now that this group has tax exempt status and they're
recruiting prisoners and they're working among street gangs. When they
get those people who are already militant, armed and violent,

(01:26:33):
and some of them are killers, when those people get
in politics, that's a revolution. Uh. We have some mutual friends.
I believe you're a friend of Mike Waller. Yes, yes,
so I'm a friend of Mike Waller two and Frank Affney.
I participated in national security symposiums with Frank Affney. I
have Soviet publications where they brag about training Muslim leaders,

(01:26:55):
and those Muslim leaders put out fatoise on those who
opposed socialism. Let me ask you this for Quiesce already
interrupt you. I got a limited amount of times, and
I want to ask you this because I think one
thing that you said, out of everything I've heard you say,
it's all important, But you said you've been studying this
for a long long time. How do Americans study this?
I think that's a problem is people don't know where

(01:27:18):
to look beyond the TV clicker? How do you how
do you suggest people go out and and educate themselves
on the reality of what's happening. Well, what I did.
I went to various Communist meetings. I got involved. They
thought I was a Communist that was among them for
fifty years. I have their training manus, and then I've
been going on the radio for thirty years exposing it. Uh.

(01:27:40):
There's a documentary with some whistleblowers called The Enemies Within.
I'm in that with Mike Waller, Frank Affney. Very important
stuff to work you're doing. I'm gonna try to reach
you on your other show. I'm gonna see if I
could get the touch with you who perhaps Mike Waller,
because I have a lot I'd like to tell you
you're doing a great job. You're guessed doing a great job.

(01:28:01):
This is my heart and soul for fifty years. I
mean I've lost income and everything trying to h to
alert people to this. We're in a big mess. It's
a world movement, just like you said, It's the Popular Front,
the All People's Front, the United Front, Afro Landinists and
Viral Landinist. This Lama Leninist there in the Christian religion
liberation theology. Let me ask you, so, let me ask

(01:28:23):
you this. I asked this earlier of of one of
the other guests. Do you think that there's a hierarchy?
Is there is there a chain of command in which
this organized movement is being controlled? Well, it's a Russia
is still the people in charge of Russia are still Soviets.
They work with the Red Chinese. But this is such

(01:28:45):
a large mass movement they don't need the direct control anymore.
But it's anybody. It's so organized. I don't know. Listen
to you and I both know and myself having worked
in federal government, nothing is this organized without a higher archy.
Nothing right. They got the schools, they got the media,
They're into the religions. Every group is being taught to

(01:29:06):
hate America. I have Soviet publications with a brigg about
helping Hitler. Anybody who's going to tear down the West.
I gotta go, my friend Mike. We'll be in touch.
But let me go right now, and let me go
real quick to John and New York. John, I got
about a minute go ahead. I just want to comment
on your last guest. Uh Before the callers came in,

(01:29:28):
he made a comment about how it's contacted the Middle East.
They're are mystified at how groups like uh, you know,
Islamic Sciation of America and care can have such access
to uh Capitol Hill and the and the whole our
our capital and lawmakers. And it's just it's not really
mystifying at all. It's pretty obvious that just the way
any lobbyists has access, they have access through their millions

(01:29:49):
of dollars that you know they get from Saudi Arabia. Cutter,
absolutely listen. You know what they say, if you want
to if you want to find the people behind it,
you all of the money. That's basically what you're saying.
That's absolutely correct. Listen, John, I'm gonna take a break,
thank you, And it's already to cut you off there,
but I gotta go to a break so I can
have time when I come back and say a few

(01:30:10):
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(01:30:33):
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(01:31:02):
for Shawn Hannity from Seawan Hannity Radio Show. If you've
been listening for the whole three hours, don't stop. This
next five minutes are gonna be very important. But real quick,
before I go to my closing statements, I want to
bring on Dale from Missouri. I was gonna go ahead
and just close these out, but Dale has something real
important to say about what we started talking about, and
it kind of leads right into this about being prepared

(01:31:23):
about being aware. But Dale, what are you all doing
in Missouri when it comes to preparing for these national
natural disasters? We went over a week without electricity in
the middle of winter, I got together with some of
my other veteran friends and we started a local group.
We've morphed into the Montauk County Crime Watch, and we

(01:31:44):
basically have the sheep dogs in the community getting together
on a regular basis to deal with these problems proactively.
Now there's millions of sheep dogs in America. You guys
need to get out from underneath the porch, fight the
normality bias, the hours later than we think. You guys,
you need a good continuous source of clean water for

(01:32:04):
your families. You need what's the big three? The three
that you were saying, You're still there. You need, you need.
You got three minutes without air, you got three days
without water, and you've got thirty days without food. So
get your food together and you'll sleep better at night.
Look at them people walking through the water with the
trash bag over their head. You don't want to be

(01:32:26):
a victim. Don't be that. You know there's still time,
you got it. There's um. And the other thing is,
like I said, go to the FEMA website. They be infiltrated.
Justice infiltrated. The Justice Department said, we can infiltrate FEMA
there's the community emergency response teams. The guidelines are there.
Let's get these sheep dogs out here in America and

(01:32:47):
start dealing with this because it's later than we think.
You got it, lest I gotta cut it right there,
my friend. Thank you very much, Dale. That is absolutely correct.
And here's the thing, this is the biggest thing that
he just hit on right there. I think everybody can
be a sheep dog, but there are people who are veterans,
people are former law enforcement, current law enforcement. I know
a lot of you are listening right now to this show.

(01:33:09):
I want you to think about this and seriously consider it.
If things start to speed up even more in this country,
how are you going to be organized? How are you
the sheep dog going to be able to lead a
bunch of people as day I was saying there with
trash bags over their head in a natural disaster because
they're not prepared, do you realize? And World War two

(01:33:33):
because people did not realize what was happening. Not only
were people led to a train and ultimately to their demise,
but people allowed them to be led to that train.
And it is up to the sheep dog, those that
have served this country, you that have sworn an oath
to defend the Constitution against all enemies, not just foreign

(01:33:55):
but domestic. That enemy is here, and you must be prepared.
And the way you are prepared is if you have
dialogue and you unify, and you do it now. Don't
wait until the day comes when there's a hurricane, or
when Antifa is at your doorsteps, or when Black Lives
Matter has come into your impoverished area in a city

(01:34:19):
and have convinced people to stand against law enforcement. Don't
wait until then. Start regrouping your families, your churches, having dialogue.
I know it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor,
gay or straight. If you want the freedoms that have
allowed you to be who you want to be, good
or bad, lazy or active, you better be ready to

(01:34:43):
stand against these enemies because they are on the move,
and they've been on the move for a lot longer
than you've been alive. I know what I'm talking about
when it comes to this, because I'm trained asn't an attacker.
I'm also trained as a defender, and I'm telling you,
in order to be a defender, you have to be
able to think like the attacker. You have to understand

(01:35:06):
who they are, who threatens your country, who threatens your freedoms,
and you have to be willing to stand against them now,
not just then, not just in the future, because it's
going to be too late. If I send one of
you sheep dogs off the war, you're gonna get killed
and lose the war. But if I send ten thousands
of you, highly trained, there's a chance you may actually

(01:35:29):
defeat the enemy. And it's the same thing here at home.
If you stand alone, you're going to be overwhelmed by
these groups who have been training for over a hundred years.
If you try to save a community on your own
that's been overwhelmed by a hurricane, people are gonna die
and you'll drowned. It's the same no matter what. You
need to stand together, you need to have dialogue, and

(01:35:49):
you need to unify against these forces. This is John
mc gill and you can find me on Twitter at
Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam.
I do a show every night called The Experts on
Facebook Live. It's a simulcast on Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.
And now I'm an author and you can get my
book Sheep No More. The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.

(01:36:13):
It's on Amazon for preorder. Don't wait until December twelveth,
Go get it now and get the presents ready so
that you and your family can be aware and your
homes and your lives can be secured

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