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June 2, 2022 31 mins

Jimmy Graham veteran Navy SEAL and Former Protective Officer for the CIA’s elite Global Response Staff  emphasizes the importance of school safety and creating safe environments for children. As CEO of Able Shepherd, Graham provides active shooter response and violent encounter training for schools, churches, companies, and responsible citizens. Over the years they have developed a 3-D architectural “future schools” model which includes a 30-second response time. With 4 shootings just last night, and another in a school setting this time in LA, the need is only getting stronger. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Showing up next our final news round Up and Information
Overload hour News round Up, Information Overload Hour eight hundred
and nine for one sean our number. You want to
be a part of the program. So President Biden tonight
will be addressing the nation about your pocketbooks. No about
let's see anything like how to stop school violence, protect

(00:23):
kids in school, distancing himself from defund dismantled Nobel laws. No,
none of that's gonna come up. It's gonna be Oh,
let's let's go for the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment
is not absolute. Joe Biden saying he wants to ban
not only AARs aks but also nine millimeter pistols pretty unbelievable.

(00:46):
There is a simple, easy solution. Americans are not going
to give up their Second Amendment rights. I pointed out
many times on this program, even our own CDC. See
they actually get one figure right. They didn't do they
didn't do well on COVID. But two and a half
million American lives are saved every year because people have firearms.

(01:10):
Law abiding citizens have firearms. And I ask all my
liberal friends, what makes you think that any criminal is
ever going to abide by any law that you pass?
Because the answer is they will not. By their very nature,
they are law breakers, so it will take away the
rights of law abiding citizens to protect themselves. And then

(01:33):
my next question, what are you going to do when
somebody breaks into your home in the dark of night
and wants to kill you and your family and rob
you blind. Because I know what I'm going to do.
I am going to confront and I'm going to try
my very best to protect myself and my family. And

(01:54):
that's it. That's how Americans protect themselves the same exact
protection that we offer Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, all of
the secretaries in the cabinet, high ranking officials in government,
local government, state government, federal government, they all have security.
Hollywood stars, all the ones that are against people having

(02:15):
the right to gun ownership, they all have the money
to pay for security guards. So the answers, don't we
owe our children the exact same protection that all these
people get. I think that's very simple. But one of
the reasons that we see this dramatic increase in violence
all over the country is because we have not taken

(02:36):
this issue seriously. And you know, I keep scratching my
head and I keep wondering if they really cared about
kids that are dying. Why hasn't Joe Biden ever mentioned
the name of one kid killed in Chicago since he's
been vice president or one hundred years before that he
was a senator. He never once. Now on my television show,

(03:00):
those of you that watch Hannity, and I hope all
of you watch, I scroll those names of those kids
and those adults, and the people that are shot every weekend,
and the people that are shot and killed, and we
come in every Monday. We can. We don't always, but
sometimes we do. We'll give you the round up the statistics.
But because of no bail laws, because of defunding the police,

(03:23):
because of dismantling the police, we now find ourselves with
the total number of children killed going up every single year.
You know, for example, when Donald Trump was president, number
was still too high, but it's twenty five percent higher
under Joe Biden. About three point three deaths a day

(03:44):
when Donald Trump was president. Now it's four point four
children dying from gun violence every day. Are we doing now?
We do know how to stop gun violence in big cities.
Because there's a guy by the name of Rudy Giuliani
that did it in New York. We were approaching nearly
three thousand murders a year in New York City. He
gets elected mayor here impossibility for a Republican, and he

(04:08):
then instituted what's called stop and frisk. They identified where
the areas are where the most violence was occurring, and
they targeted those areas, and they targeted people with the
potential if they thought they would randomly frisk people. Now
you might have civil liberties issues with that. Put that aside.

(04:29):
But the number went down to about three hundred murders
a year in New York City thanks to Rudy Giuliani's policies,
and they were Mayor Bloomberg in place. Anyway. Joining us
is Jimmy Grammy's a veteran Navy seal, former protective officer
for the CIA's elite Global Response staff. And before we

(04:49):
get to him, I want to point out that Kareein
Jean Pierre, the new White House Communications director, is saying
hardening schools is not something Biden believes in anyway. Listen
to what she said and when it comes to when
it comes to schools, and I don't know what he
said specifically, about about schools. I know there's been a

(05:11):
conversation about hardening schools. That is not something that he
believes in. He believes that we should be able to
give teachers the resources to be able to do the
job that they're meant to do at schools anyway. Jimmy Graham,
veteran Navy Seal, former protective officer for the CIA's Elite
Global Response Staff. Look, there's nobody that I know that

(05:32):
can defend or would defend what happened in Uval Day.
That to me, though, is an anomaly because I have
so many law enforcement friends, I have so many family
members that were involved in law enforcement that every single
person I know that goes in a law enforcement they
want to serve and they know that they may come

(05:53):
where they got to rush in put their lives on
the line, like for example nine to eleven, two thousand
and one, risk their life. They do it willingly, and
they train for it. And what we saw, I believe
in Texas was the anomaly, and it's unforgivable. I can't
understand it. Nobody can understand it. But that doesn't mean

(06:14):
we say, oh, well, what good are armed guards going
to do? They're going to do a lot of good
in terms of prevention in my view your thoughts, that's right, Sean.
You'd mentioned limiting entryways. You know that's got to be
a culture thing where we're going to limit the entryways
so there's only a couple of places to defend from
from externally. The other thing is, i've heard recently you
know that's not what teachers signed up for, is to protect.

(06:37):
None of us signed up for this. This is horrible.
This is con consequences of decisions we've made come into fruition,
and I think it's just the beginning of that. So
I think that run hyde fight was a good place
to start, but it was lacking. We say it this way. Defend,
it's d E F D N D. It's defense, Evacuate, fortify,
emergency medical aid, notify others in your immediate area in

(06:58):
down line one one. It doesn't mean they have to
do all of that, but they must do sub So
if the teacher says I don't want to call nine
one one, I'm saying, what are you willing to do?
So I think there needs to be a change. Being
a teacher has changed, and that's unfortunate. But that's the truth.
All right, So let me ask you because you have
this company. You're a CEO of a company called Able Shepherd,

(07:19):
and you provide active shooter response in violent encounter training
for schools, churches, companies, and responsible citizens. So obviously there
are For example, I know a friend of mine is
a pastor and his church, unbeknownst to any congregate, is
a fortress. They have armed guards all over that church.

(07:40):
Every Sunday. They have more cameras than you could shake
a stick at. Nobody knows they have all those cameras,
and they have people monitoring everybody that goes to Sunday worship, etc.
They monitor everybody to keep everybody safe and secure. And
if something God forbid ever happened. And I would argue churches,
like schools or target it's they're prepared. But every school

(08:03):
is not prepared in the country and that's a big
problem to me. That's correct, And I think you know
able Shepherd odds to find that word. What it means
to me is the word shepherd needs to protect, to teach,
and to lead. So it's not just protect And I
understand the sheep dog mentality, but that just says protect,
but to teach them the lead. I think that is
the way forward. I think somewhere along the way we
were convinced somehow that we don't need each other anymore.

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You know, our motto is take care of one another.
That's it, just take care of one another. Well, what
if things are good? And then teach them and lead them.
What if things are bad? To protect them? But it
means that is my job. And when we see many
many churches, schools, cit the groups, businesses that take on
that role, you see a degree of dignity that reminds
them it's on us twenty reminded of that because we
called nine to one one and nobody showed up because
of what we've done. Police officers, they're understaff, but there's

(08:48):
no shortage of men, I say, or is there? You know?
That's where communities need to come together and say, hey,
I got you, you got me. Let's get back to
living our lives. And it's not a life of spear,
it's the way it was designed to be. Why do
people think that taken away guns from law abiding citizens
is logical? In some way, I've had a light. My
mom was a prison guard, my dad worked in family

(09:08):
cor probation. My mom had a loaded revolver next to
her bed without a safe all my years growing up
and at a very young age, my mother and father
took me to arrange and taught me gun safety. Anyway,
So I go he take my first lesson and the
guy says, do you remember everything that I've just told
you about gun safety? And I said, yes, sir, and

(09:30):
he goes, great, when you come back next week, if
you still remember it and you can tell me you
remember it all, then I'll let you fire the weapon.
And I went back and I ended up going there
training there, learning and I actually at the time became
a pistol marksman at a pretty early age. Yeah. I
think people are afraid of things that don't understand. So
when we know it's very common form of me and

(09:51):
we do this, you know, every day, but Sunday where
this is exactly what we're doing. We're adding value to
people in this arena, meaning that very common to have
people that have never fired a firearm and then show
them that this is a tool, this is a responsibility.
It's not a hobby. This is a capability and what
that capability comes to a responsibility and you show them
how it works. We say this is what's worked since
the beginning of time. This is a principle and protective work.

(10:12):
To get to them, you don't have to go through me.
And then you teach a you know, a soccer mom
who's never fired a pistol before that that capability exists
in her to say, to get to my children, you
have to go through me, the responsibility to do it.
You show them how to do it, and they leads
them to a tall that's a right, that's an alienable
or right to protect my children. And you know I
heard you talking on the setup. To disarm me would

(10:35):
be a disservice to this country. And I could people
want me armed. I talked to many, many people every
day that I talked to him. I've been legally armed,
and I talk to them and if you're really that
you've been armed that whole time, yes, I have. Because
I am that person that would pull you, pull you
out of the snow here in Colorado. I would stop
and see what's going on at your car, and if
I saw somebody hurting you out, would figure out what's
going on and try to help you. You know, to me,

(10:55):
it's very simple. If politicians are protected with our tax dollars,
and I want to go on record saying I support that.
I think it's the right thing to do. We've got
to protect all our elected officials. I don't care whether
you're a Democrat, Republican, conservative, liberal, doesn't matter. Because they're targets.
We should protect them. We can protect them, we have
the means to protect them. But if we're going to

(11:17):
protect them, we need to protect our children as well.
And certainly the policies of no bail and dismantle and
defund the police have not helped. All it is done
is exacerbated violence in usually big cities run by liberal
Democrats for decades and blue states run by liberal Democrats

(11:40):
for decades. Interestingly, they have the toughest gun laws and
they have the most the highest volume of shootings and
murders and killings with guns that are illegal in their
cities and states. Yeah, I think you know that it's
important for people to know you must be able to
defend yourself. You must. We're heading into some challenging times.

(12:01):
Everybody that I talked to understands that it's not like
we're like, well, here in five years, it's going to
be great. I think it's gonna be worse because these
consequences that are catching up to us. If everything you
just mentioned, plus COVID and the social problems we've instituted,
this is going to come back around and we're gonna
have to leave the consequences. And you must be able
to defend yourself. And now there's a note to disarm
responsible people from doing that. And that's scary, that's dangerous,

(12:24):
all right? Quick breakmore with Jimmy Graham, veteran Navy Seal,
former protective officer for the CIA's elite Global Response Staff,
now the CEO of Abel Shepherd. How do we keep
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(14:12):
Got something new is on right now? All right? We
continue with Jimmy Graham, former Navy seal veteran Navy seal
and former protective officer for the CIA's Elite Global Response Staff.
He's now the CEO of his own company. He helps schools,

(14:33):
protect the kids that are in school, helps churches, big institutions, workplaces.
The company is called Abel Shepherd. People ask me a lot, what, Hannity,
you you have a gun collection. You talk about it
a lot. What What should I get? What kind of
gun should I get? I said, well, any gun you're
willing to get safety and training in the use of

(14:54):
That's my first answer. And then I'll give him some suggestions. Um,
you know, Henry repeating Arms have to be an advertiser
on the show. I love their firearms. They're amazing. It's
an amazing company. Every single weapon I've gotten from them
is accurate right out of the box. Is also another company.
If you want a non lethal alternative that I'm a

(15:14):
fan of and I've purchased a number of them, might
give them away as gifts to friends that are afraid
of firearms. It's called Burner by r n A. If
people want to look it up, and it shoots projectiles
of two pepper sprays and tear gas. Although in New
York you can have the tear gas part because New
York's laws, So of course I'm not allowed to have

(15:35):
the good projectile, but there are non lethal alternatives. Would
you recommend them? Maybe for teachers. Yeah, it depends on
what the threat is. Obviously, you know when we do
reality based training, which is, by the way, how professional
protectors train. So we're talking seal teams a little bit.
When you're talking protective officer and Secret Service, that's exactly
what they do. So there's a good place to start.

(15:56):
But what is the threat that you're seeing coming in
the door? If you're restricted having firearms, and I would say, yes,
get something that's going to enhance your capability. But what
we fall back on but consistently here is show me.
You can have all the guns in the world. If
you can't show me a capability with any of them,
I think you wasted a lot of money. So, like
you said, invest in yourself, get the training. It's what

(16:17):
responsible people do, and then be able to replicate a
standard based on the threat that you perceive. Like the
data is out there and showing you, you know, what
might walk into a classroom or a church or or whatever,
and if it does, you need to provide a capability
that could meet that threat or in fact beat it.
Jimmy Graham, former Navy Seals CEO Abel Shepherd, appreciate you

(16:38):
being with us and all you do to keep our
kids safe. And thank you so much. God bless night
on Thank you. Eight hundred nine one, Sean on number.
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(17:01):
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the top of the hour, eight hundred nine one, Shawn
our number. Back to where we started the program today.
If you missed it, you're just joining us. Welcome aboard,
Glad you're on board. Joey, your president, will be addressing

(17:23):
the nation tonight about quote, gun violence and his measures.
Of course, now he wants to ban nine millimeters on
top of everything else. What do honest, law abiding people do.
What are you going to do? What is your plan?
I have a plan. I have a lot of plans.
I have contingency plans. On top of contingency plans, if

(17:44):
if something ever happened, for example, on my property, I
take great care in where I go and where I'm
going to be, and I don't like to broadcast it
because leave it or not. I know it's shocking, but
there are people out there that really don't like me.
And over the year, well I don't come on the
air and talk about it, but I mean, over the years,

(18:04):
we've dealt with a number of these instances, if you will, so,
but every American has a right to be safe. You
see these images of older women, you know, eighty years
old walking in the street and some jackass just comes
up and punches them in the face. What for fun?
There's something fun about that. Or they just rip their

(18:25):
pocketbook away from them. You know. Now we have people
walking in the stores. As long as you don't steal
a thousand bucks worth the stuff, you're okay. Yeah, that's
that's going to keep a lot of people working and
a lot of business is open. We allow that to
continue to happen anyway. So Joe Biden is not going
to deal with inflation tonight. He's not going to deal
with the borders tonight. He's not going to deal with
the failed economy, high gas prices. No, he's going to

(18:47):
talk about getting rid of nine millimeters and you know,
act like he cares, and I go back to the fact,
in the last three years we lost nearly five thousand
kids and he didn't an utter a word. Why didn't
Joe Biden talk about all of those kids killed a
lot of them on under his watch, paying attention? And

(19:09):
why didn't he when he was vice president ever mentioned
the name of a single kid killed in Obama's hometown
of Chicago. They barely both of them barely ever mentioned
the violence in Chicago. Obama did a few times, but
I can't remember. We looked hard. We didn't find one
instance where Vice President Joe Biden mentioned the name of
a single child that was killed in Obama's hometown of Chicago. Anyway,

(19:34):
But then this is a guy who forgot the name
of his own held in Human Services Secretary JAVIEB. Basarah, listen,
how you I'm going to hand it over to a
six chamber. I'm going to have you speak now, and
you're in marks, and then are going to hand it
over to h to Smara, to here, to Samara. It's

(19:59):
U best, Sarah, Joe, it's not that hard. You can practice.
Try go home. If you really try hard, I think
you can probably get it. On the fiftieth attempt, Anyway,
then Joe Biden talked about nine millimeters. I owned a
number of nine millimeters. It is really not that much
different than the thirty eight. Really isn't also of o'clock forty,

(20:24):
it's a little more powerful. And anyway says we we
literally we're not going to be able to the Second Amendment,
he says is not absolute. I'm like, yeah, the right
of the people to keep and to bear arms shall
not be infringed. Well, they didn't allow cannons when they
did the Constitution. You're right, except they didn't disallow them. Joe,

(20:47):
there were no gun laws until what the nineteen thirties,
not one restriction at all whatsoever. Who was it Jonathan
Turley the first person to point that fact out. Here's
Joe Biden on the Second Amendment not being absolute. We
know certain ones will have significant impact and have no
negative impact on the Second Amendment. Second Amends not absolute.

(21:11):
When I was passed, you couldn't own a you couldn't
own a cannon, you couldn't own certain kinds of weapons.
It's just always been limitations. But guess what these actions
we've taken before, they saved lives. They can do it
again now. The first thing is there's no demonstrable difference
when they went with the first assault weapons ban, and

(21:33):
they don't even know the difference between quote, what they
identify or name or call or an assault weapon and
other weapons that are out there. And again, criminals by
their very nature don't obey laws. They'll find ways to
circumvent them. The only people that will be disarmed or
law abiding citizens that we will be left defensives at
and when they call nine one one, well, if they

(21:55):
live in one of those cities that defunded and dismantled
the police or one of those cities that let's peep
out in a revolving door because of Nobel not going
to work out. Well. My favorite though, is Joey saying, oh,
we're not going to be able to click a switch
and lower gas and food prices. No, Joe, it's going
to take a lot of time to fix the damage
you cause you're right, is you're half right on this one. Listen,

(22:16):
there's a lot going on right now. But the idea
we're going to be able to, you know, click a
switch bring down the cost of gasoline is not liking
their term, nor is it with regard to food unbelievable.
All right, Joy is in Florida. Joy, how are you
welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. Glad you called. Thanks
so much for your time today. I just want into

(22:39):
whole time on the whole herd and depth thing. And
I felt stupid following it. I'm an older woman, and
I thought, why in the world am I interested in this?
And I figured it out. I had heard Amber talk
about hitting him and saying I didn't punch you, I
just slapped you. And oh she said, she actually said,

(23:02):
I want to get it right because this is important.
I didn't punch you, I just hit you. I'm like, well,
what if Johnny Depp said I didn't punch you, I
just hit you. You You absolutely nailed what I thought. And
I thought, how many people today are in a situation
where somebody's saying, Okay, I didn't I didn't punch you.
I just hit you. I didn't I didn't push you.
I just nudged you. I didn't I didn't pull your hair.

(23:26):
I just grabbed it. And I thought, my god, if
it were a man saying it, there would be hell
to hey and everybody would be wearing vagina hats and
walking around and protesting. But because it was all by
the way, I forgot all about those hats, and that
that mark I forgot all about them go ahead, and

(23:47):
that that really really bothered me because I thought it
was such a disservice to all the people who suffer
in silence from abuse. Um and there are people that
are real victims of abuse. What you're saying is deep
and it is profound. And the interesting thing that also
struck me is that when she complained and you keep

(24:09):
walking away from me and going from room to room
to room, that sounds like a guy that's trying to
de escalate a bad situation. But it's worse. She talked
about him shoving a whiskey bottle into her vagina so
hard that it hurt her pubic bone, and she was
worried because there was broken glass all over, and she worried,

(24:33):
was it one of the broken glass whiskey bottles that
he was shoving into her vagina and raping her whist
And I thought, you know, you never went to the
doctor for that. He never went to be checked. And
there are people out there who actually have been raped,
and one of them, as my very disabled daughter. I'm
so sorry to hear that that's the worst. Yep, it

(24:54):
was that to me is pure evil. Well, and I
don't exactly I know where, when I know where. We
took her in for just a regular gynecological checkup, and
her gynecologists that told me she's no longer intact. And
I said, okay, could she have fallen? Could she have this?

(25:16):
Could she have that? And she said no, she was penetrated.
And I thought about the times that I dropped her
off at an adult day training place so I could
go to my job teaching students like her. And one
day she ran out the back door and ran to
my car before I left. And I feel with the
guilt that I feel about that, But I think, what

(25:39):
about what about the people like her? And not just women,
but men who are raped as well. And here you
have a person who is creating this story and making
it as fallacious and violent as she possibly can. If
it was a broken glass, huge disservice everybody else, we

(26:01):
would have known, she would have known. And let's take
her at a word for a second here and again,
all the eye believers, I believe that allegations need to
be taken seriously. The allegations against Justice Kavanaugh were taken seriously.
Republicans did not mess that up. The stories fell apart.

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Especially they lined up every other weekend and they gave
the girls punch and then they lined up in the
hall and they take turns raping these girls. And if
that would have had happened, one of those girls would
have told somebody at some point. But if you, if
you take her at her word here, at some point,

(26:42):
you have to ask yourself. And I forget. I think
it was Tommy Bruster brought it up last night. Why
would you ever stay? Now? I understand the Stockholm syndrome.
I understand that that people have various conditions that I
don't fully comprehend because I'm not a medical doctor and

(27:03):
I'm not a psychiatrist, I'm not a shrink. I don't know,
and I have no idea why people would allow themselves
to be treated badly. I have a saying, you teach
people how to treat you in life. In other words,
if people do not speak to you the proper way,
you say, excuse me, I will not be spoken to
that way. Excuse me, get your hands off me, excuse me,

(27:27):
get that finger out of my face, or I'm going
to break it in two seconds, and I'm more outspoken.
For me, it comes naturally, I understand for other people
it does not. But we have to train our kids
to be able to fight off evil. What you're describing
happen to your daughter is an evil that she likely

(27:49):
won't get over for the rest of her life. I
know people that this has happened to, and sure they
move on, but the damage, the post traumatic stress, is
very real for them, and it often, you know, manifests
itself in ways that you can't even begin to think
of intimacy issues, etc. I can go into a whole

(28:11):
list of things that evil shouldn't happen, and we really,
in my mind, we've got to teach our young kids
how to be smart, be aware of their environment, don't
go to places where you know there's going to be trouble.
As my parents used to say, nothing good usually happens
after midnight, although they let me at twelve work till

(28:33):
two in the morning, so I'm not sure if that
applied to my case. But in all seriousness, we've got
to protect these kids, and then when we catch these people,
we need to put them away forever. You rape an
innocent person you should forfeit your life of freedom forever,
end of sentence. And now with DNA testing, we can

(28:56):
determine very easily whether or not this person's guilty or
not guilt, or at least in a lot of the case,
not every case, but in a lot of the cases
we can. Our prayers are in her case because she
is so m cognitively impaired, she would have no understanding
of it. She could, she could never testify about it.

(29:16):
She doesn't sorry though what it is. But I think
they have court case shows us that we need to
really do a little bit more work and protecting the
innocence data out there. And these are two, to me, pathetic,
very dark people, and I'm kind of sick of talking

(29:36):
about them and giving them any more attention. On this.
I found the whole thing so distasteful on every level.
I don't know. I wasn't in the courtroom. I didn't
hear all the testimony. What I did hear, what I
did see, you know, made me want to vomit. If
you find yourself in a situation I can say this
where things are spiraling down in a very dark direction,

(30:00):
my humble advice is, get the hell out of that situation,
and I mean for good. Now, if you think that therapy,
you think reconciliation is possible. I'm all in favor of forgiveness.
You can forgive people, not be friends with the people.
You can. You forgive them, but that doesn't mean you
have to stay with them. And if people have violent tendencies,
you know, I always I tell people when they say

(30:22):
that a boyfriend or a girlfriend has a bad temper,
I said, that's a bad sign. That is not a
good sign. Anyway, Joy appreciate it. Eight hundred nine suns
a number if you want to be a part of
the program. I just feel when you hear these horror stories,
and I know people that have lived through those horror
stories real life. It is the damage is so deep

(30:42):
and it takes a lifetime, if possible, to heal, and
in many cases people won't ever fully heal. The scars
are there forever. We'll continue. All right, that's gonna wrap
things up for today. Hannity Tonight, nine Eastern Fox News.
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