November 18, 2024 • 31 mins
Brett Tolman, former federal prosecutor who served as U.S. Attorney for Utah and Gregg Jarrett, Fox News Legal Analyst and Best Selling Author is here today to take a look at the two huge trial cases we have happening in the United States right now - NY’s efforts to bring down a patriot, Daniel Penny and Georgia’s court room disaster for Laken Riley where an illegal immigrant sits in front of her parents who weep over the loss of their daughter.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, thanks Scott, Chad An hour two Sean Hannity's show,
toll free. Our number is eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean,
if you want to be a part of the program.
We have a lot of illegal issues that have come
out of this campaign. Ones I didn't think that would
be such a big deal. We brought up the case
of Pennsylvania and they are having a legal recount there
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because there it was within the zero point five percent margin.
With that said, Dave McCormick holds a healthy lead mathematically.
I'm told it's impossible for Bob Casey to catch up.
And in spite of what was a court ruling that
was very very specific by the state Supreme Court just
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from this past September that election officials in Pennsylvania the
Commonwealth are not to count any mail in ballots that
are missing return dates on envelopes or having correct dates. Well,
election officials in certain Pencelavania counties have voted and decided
to ignore the state Supreme Court and count them anyway. Obviously,
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litigation has been filed by Republicans both in state and
nationally to stop the counting of the invalid ballots. I
don't think the State Supreme Court's going to change their mind.
I was a little disheartened with Senator John Fetterman who
just dismissed counting of provisional ballots that weren't legitimate in
Bucks County, for example, and predicted Bob Casey would have
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to concede to Dave mccormicky. He doesn't think they can
make up the number anyway. He's trailing by eighteen thousand votes,
and most of these have already been counted, so it's
not a margin of error. But it's the principle that
matters here. And then we have another case. A Minnesota
election judge is now being charged for allegedly accepting people
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who were not properly properly registered to vote in the
twenty twenty four election. But when you just openly defy
a court like this, this cannot stand. Senator Mike Lee
has become very outspoken about this, said Republicans could refuse
to seat Casey if the Democrat was declared the winner
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in this contest, although the AP and even liberal media
outlets in Pennsylvania have already called the race for Dave McCormick,
and Lee goes on to say Bob Casey doesn't concede.
Pennsylvania keeps counting illegal votes, and Casey relies on those
votes to claim victory. The Senate could refuse to seat him, which,
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by the way, and then he cited the clause Article one,
section five of our Constitution. Each House shall be the
judge of the elections, returns qualifications of its own members.
I hope it doesn't come to that. But there's not
a single Democrat that loves to complain about Donald Trump.
They didn't care about Stacy Abrams. They didn't care about
Hillary Clinton said the election was stolen from her and
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Donald Trump was an illegitimate president. They only care when
republic when they can go after Republicans anyway. Brett Tolman
is back with this. Former federal prosecutor served as a
US attorney for Utah, Greg Jarrett Fox knows legal analysts,
best selling author, guys. Great to have you back. Let's
get your take, Greg Jarrett on both these cases.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, they're both disturbing, and they're both quite similar because
in Minnesota, I mean, you've got an electing judge who
is more than happy to sanction people who are not
allowed to vote to vote, and he got caught by
an auditor and he was pretty quickly arrested and criminally charged.
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It does invite the question how many times does this
happen in Minnesota or even elsewhere in which an auditor
doesn't check or find the illegality, the criminality. And then
of course in Pennsylvania. I mean, this is a blatant
attempt to try to steal an election by defying the
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state Supreme Court, which was very clear.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
By the way, it's not an old ruling. They made
this decision in September.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, it's a new one, and the court laid it out.
You've got to have signatures, you got to have dates.
But apparently the I think it's Bucks County, the Democrat
in charge there says, well, nobody pays any attention to
the Supreme Court. You don't have to follow the law
of the land because everybody ignores it. Hockey. That is
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just absolute nonsense, and it's you know, this is blatantly
trying to steal on an election in Pennsylvania. So you've
got two different states doing pretty much the same sort
of thing, counting people and ballots that should not be counted, you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Know, and get you can addswer this. You know, with
all the talk of a threat to democracy, and then
you have of all of these democrats openly saying that
they will aid in a bet you know, illegal immigrants,
people that didn't respect our law, border sovereignty. And Governor
Pritzki or Illinois, you come from my people, you come
through me. Of the Massachusetts governor saying she will defy
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federal law as it relates to illegal immigration and deportation.
The Chicago mayor are doing the same thing. Congressional Democrats
pledging deportation resistance.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And I'm listening to all of this.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
They're all basically saying they're willing to break the law
and aid in a bet in law breaking. And this
is what has gone on now for the last four years,
and was you know, just just outright rejected by the
American people.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Will will they be able to stop that too? Right?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, so I would say you've highlighted what I think
is plaguing the country. On the left, it is the
note that you can ignore the law. You also have
Merrick Garland, a profound example of cowardice and pettiness and
willing to turn you know, a system of laws on
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its head through the power that they have been granted.
And what I look back, I look at these elections
and also the illegal issue, and the same mantra is
being followed by the left, and that is we can
pick and choose which laws we're going to follow. I'll
tell you right now, I know what the transition team
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is focused on, and that is getting US attorneys in
this country and getting a DJ that's right sided and
understands we will enforce the law against anybody that violates it.
It's not going to matter what you know, what your
politics are. It's not going to matter you know where
you come from. It's going to matter that we have
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a system of laws that the country can count on
is going to be enforced. When I was US attornation
and had I had multiple election allegations that we engaged on.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Where are they?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Where are all the US Attorney's offices in Minnesota and Pennsylvania.
They have the ability to make sure that the federal
election follows the law in the states that they're that
they're in, and we hear nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
It's silence, Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Let me move on to a couple of other legal
issues that we have before us, one of which is
the trial of Daniel Penny, the former marine.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
And you have.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
This guy with an arrest record a mile long, forty
two prior run ins with the police, and he comes
on a subway train and he threatens you know, he says,
I don't care if I heard all of you and
hurt myself in the process, and then threatening these people
on a train, including you know, women and the elderly,
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and Daniel Penny, you know, jumps to the defense of
these people, many people testifying that they feel that their
lives were saved because of the actions of Daniel Penny.
And yet here he is on trial in New York City,
and you have to worry that this guy trying to
be a good Samaritan might end up in jail.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Greg Jarrett, Yeah, this.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Was a defense of another similar to self defense. And
if Penny believed the passengers were in a danger of
death or serious bodily injury, the law entitles him to
act precisely as he did. Even if he had a
mistaken belief, the law still says it's justifiable. I think
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what makes the difference in this case and will lead
to an acquittal the bread of witnesses, particularly women testified.
As you point out, Sewan they were terrified for their lives, fearful,
they thought they were going to die. One woman said, truly,
I thought I was going to die until Penny stepped
in to stop Neely, who was threatening the tartning to
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kill them, menacing them. And you know, these people said
they were relieved that Penny intervened to protect him. And
these jurors know how dangerous and perilous the subway is
in New York because for too long liberal mayors and
prosecutors have allowed criminals to victimize writers with impunity. It's
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not safe. I call it a death trap. So I
don't see a jury who's set up with crime in
New York handing back a guilty verdict. I think this
was entirely justified, and frankly, the prosecution should never have
been brought, but it was probably brought because Penny is white,
Nealya is black, and the lead prosecutor hinted it that
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during opening statements, accusing the defendant of being racist despite
no evidence of racism. If there was, you would have
been charged with a hate crime and he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That's a great point. What your thoughts spread.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I was, I was stunned that the toxicologist is going
to testified that she didn't want her role. You know,
she is supposed to review all the evidence, and and
she didn't review the toxicology report before declaring that it
was asphixiation, not knowing at the time that he was
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filled with with drugs and synthetic drugs. And so you
have you have an irrational, you know response by the
DA's office in charging this case. They should have been
thanking him, you know, they should be thanking him. But
we're so sensitive to the fact that he's he's African
American and it came on the hills of you know,
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George Floyd and what was happening there that we're willing
to set aside, you know, law and order in order
to pursue a narrative that we think, we think of
a prosecutor as the right narrative and wrong. In this instance,
this was a good Samaritan, and we protect those Our
law specifically, like Greg says, have been fashioned in order
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to protect it samaritans.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
All right, quick break, We'll come back more with Greg
Jarrett and Brett Tolman on the other side.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Then we'll get to your calls.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And well, the incredible Turner Round by Joe and Mika
Liberal Joe apparently meeting with Donald Trump. Pretty interesting quick
break right back, we'll continue straight Aheadue now with Brett
Tolman and Greg Jarrett analyzing this case out of the
New York This brave marine now in a fight for
his life Daniel Penny. As we also talk about, even
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though Supreme Court of Pennsylvania decision came down in September,
you do have people now just defying a Supreme Court order.
It is unbelievable lawlessness. Really, to me is a cut
and dry case, and I'm hoping that the jury that
probably many on the jury take the subway on a
regular basis. Greg, you said you took of a thirty
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some odd years, which I have known to standing why
you would do that. I mean, it's gotten so insane.
I've had this long standing battle with Linda over her
getting on the subway, and she is just in spite
of offering to pay for an Uber Black, which is
a higher end Uber car, she refuses and still prefers
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the subway over my very generous offer, wouldn't you say, Greg, Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It's incredibly generous. It's the same offer I've made for
my daughters. I opened an account on my card for
Uber for them to use, and I have strictly forbidden
them from using the subway. I have a feeling they
don't always abide by my request, but I don't go
there anymore. You know, years ago, when I first moved
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to New York in the early nineties, it was a
safe place. You know, Giuliani cleaned up the place his
successor did. But you know, once Democrat mayors came into town,
this subway just came open season on innocent writers. And
of course the stories are constant in the media. People killed,
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thrown on the tracks, rob beaten, stabbed, shot. You know,
it won't stop until we have prosecutors and mayors who
really care about enforcing the law and protecting innocent victims
instead of protecting the career criminals.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I have given my kids the same, the same gift
that you've given them, and that is, you know, you
can use my card, You can use ubers anytime, and
I will never question it at all. And you know,
get the higher end Uber, no problem. I'll pay for it.
It's from my peace of mind as much as theirs
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and safety. But you know that's that's the state of
you know, the fundusmenttle no bail laws in New York.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Brett, Yeah, and then you combined with it, you know,
proussers are sending the signal out they're not going to
prosecute certain crimes. Well, at the same time, we're not
going to enforce our borders. So what you have then
is this this powder keg that's building of individuals that
pour into the country. They want to get to the
cities like New York and Chicago and otherwise because they
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can be as criminal as they want and they have
far less likelihood of getting prosecuted. The only true deterrence
we have, it's not the length of sentence. It is
the predictability of getting caught and prosecuted. And when you
take that predictability away, you've taken all deterrence in your
criminal justice system out.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's unbelievable. Anyway, I appreciate both of you. Incredible times
we're living in, that's for sure. Brett Tolman, Greg Jarrett
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org for the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. Well, there was
a big surprise. I do know a little bit about
the backstory, and I had heard about it this weekend.
First I chuckled, And the more I think about it,
the more ridiculous it is. But I guess, you know,
I guess it's Donald Trump's way. Apparently, Joe and Mika
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requested a breakfast with Donald Trump. Donald. I guess they
live somewhere in Florida. I don't know where they live anyway,
So they went tomorrow lago. After all that they have
been saying about Donald Trump for eight years or thereabouts,
they wanted to meet Donald Trump. And they explain on
their morning show this morning how the visit went.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from
so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply
dismayed by several of President Elect Trump's cabinet selections, and
they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns
on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the
opportunity to speak with the President elect himself. On Friday,
(17:29):
we were given the opportunity to do just that. Joe
and I went to mar A Lago to meet personally
with President elect Trump. It was the first time we
have seen him in seven years now.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
We talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation,
threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets.
We talked about that a good bit and it's going
to come as no surprise to anybody who watched this show,
has watched it over the past year or over the
past decade.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
That we didn't see eye to eye on a lot
of issues, and.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We told him so.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
What we did agree on was to restar our communications.
And for those asking why we would go speak to
the President elect during such fraught times, especially between us,
I guess I would ask back why.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Wouldn't we Wow, Maybe because this is how you talked
about him, and this is the I could literally run,
you know, a three hour program on the horrific things
they have said over the years about Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
This is a small sampling, you know, I how do
you say it? I mean he's talking about genes.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
And that the that immigrants have bad genes.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
It's kind of kind of fascist.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
I think the Nazi. We'll have more and people are
actively actively choosing when they go in to vote for
this guy, to vote for a bigot.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
A fascist, a man who says he wants to be
an authoritarian and a dictator. On day one, Yeah, the
men's club grill at country clubs that are perfectly fine
voting for a guy who talks about vermin a Nazi term, who.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Also uses sort of the fascist.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Slogan of go back to where you came from, for
sitting members of Congress that don't happen to be white.
And then yesterday, just take a look at him, just seriously,
like what is this?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Nineteen thirty three And it could go on and on
in a loop. Why Donald Trump decided to meet with them,
I don't know. I'm not going to question the President elect.
That's a decision that he makes on his own, and
maybe he just wanted it to clear the air. And
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it is probably a big part of him that doesn't
even know how awful they have been to him and
why they want to meet with a fascist, a Nazi,
a bigot, a white nationalist, and every other name that
they called him on a regular basis. You know, the
people that pedaled, you know, their network pedaled more lies
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and conspiracy theories. You know, they never once stood up
for what would be real justice or equal justice under
the law. They've allowed the lawfair against Donald Trump to go,
you know, totally uncriticized or lacking any critical thought, any honest,
you know, intellectual honesty on their part. You know, even
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the valuation of Donald Trump's you know, mar A Lago
at eighteen million, which is obscene and absurd. They didn't
once stick up for Donald Trump and the idea. Now
that they want to have a conversation with him, I
think the conversation is over. I would have nothing to
do or nothing to say to these people, and it
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is the most bizarre thing, and I can't believe what's
going to come out of my mouth. But I think
the ladies over at that hard hitting news show on ABC.
The View had it right when they were critical of
this trip.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
I think there's a lot of people who are probably
looking at what Joe and Mika did and find it
or portunistic. There are people who change their stripes or
maybe they're spots, I should say today, depending on who
is in power, on what benefits them. I don't know
that that's what they are doing and not to me,
it's a to be determined situation because right now it's
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the transition.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
We don't know what he's going to do as president.
Speaker 9 (21:45):
We don't know what they're going to do if he
commits abuses of power as president. So you know, everybody
has to live with their decision. Everybody has to look
at themselves in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I'm good.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
We have to be very clear eyed when we think
about the president elect and cover the president elect. And
I don't think you need to sit down for ninety
minutes at mar A Lago and kiss his ring to
be able to speak truth and to be able to
cover a story. So maybe they're not journalists in the
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true sense. Maybe they're saying that they're opinion general journalists.
But we have to remember that Trump is the guy
who ushered in the era of fake news. He is
the guy who ushered in alternative facts.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
They are the ones that pedaled the floating news. The
irony of all of it is none of these people
have come to the realization yet that legacy media died,
and it is dead. It is gone, it is buried.
And I keep going over this because the one thing
that stands out in this election. For nine years, every
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major newspaper, every broadcast channel, every late night comedy show,
with the exception of Greg Guttfeld, and every single liberal
cable news network of which they are part of, has
done nothing but obsess and call this man every name
in the book and the country. They've heard it, you know,
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at different times they heard it. I don't think anybody
could tolerate watching liberal Joe and Mika, you know, for
more than two minutes without wanting to flip the channel
fast and as reflected by their low ratings. But putting
all that aside, now, I don't know what Donald Trump's
thinking now. The Bible does tell us that we should
forgive people seventy times seven. Linda and I have fun
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discussions about this all the time because she You know,
Linda has gotten into Bible studies, she's got a new pastor,
and she's doing great things in her spiritual life, which
we've talked about. And I'm doing the same. In mind,
I'm not I'm very open about it. And we need
to forgive people. Seventy times seven, Linda, what are the
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odds you would ever forgive Joe and Mika if.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
You were Donald Trump?
Speaker 11 (24:08):
Less than zero?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Less than zero. But at least the women of the
viewer being more honest about it.
Speaker 11 (24:17):
Take all day, every day, somebody telling me to my face,
don't talk to me, don't say hello, don't say talk
to you. Fine, we don't have to like each other.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
We don't. It's all good deep down, deep down. You
like me, you I like I do. But there's a
lot of people I don't like and they do know it. Oh,
I know you have a.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
I'm not fake. I'm not about the favorite.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That would be. You are very real. Now, you can
forgive somebody, but you don't have absolutely that's my point.
You don't.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You don't have to be you don't even have to
talk to them, but you can forgive them. But as
a matter of fact, the Bible says the Lord's prayer.
Forgive us as we forgive.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Right.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
Yeah, I do it every week, do it, do it
every week, supposed to do it every day.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Every time somebody screws you over.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh my gosh, I want to beat When you get
to the Pearly Gates, I'll probably be waiting.
Speaker 11 (25:10):
Listen, everybody the same thing.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I'll be one of the recognizable people. Oh look, here's
she's gonna try and get in and watch this. It's
gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Now, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to Saint Peter or
whoever is in charge of the Pearl Gates, and I'm
gonna I'm gonna put in a good word for you.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I'm gonna try. I'm going to meet it. Thank you,
I appreciate it. Yeah, I think you might need a
little help there.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Maybe I'll be like, uh, your defense attorney and say, forgive,
forgive them Father for the for she knew not what
she was doing.
Speaker 11 (25:37):
But see I do, And I say to God every night,
I'm like, listen, I know you created me in your image.
You already know that I have a lot of issues
and I'm working on it, and every night I ask
for forgiveness. And every day I try to do my best.
You know, Like I took my car in for inspection
and they said my horn was getting worn down. You know,
but it's better for me to beat at you than
to I've.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Heard that horn a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, if you have a conversation when you're driving a car,
very real thing, and then a lot of exploders come
out of your mouth.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
You blanking, blanketing, blank window, which is an improvement us.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Oh so you just say it.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You know, you used to roll your window down, and
you just you just say it out loud in the
car to yourself.
Speaker 11 (26:16):
I still roll it down, but you know I'm working
on that.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Okay, you need to. That's not a good idea.
Speaker 11 (26:21):
You're going to get the wrong today because people are nuts,
you know what I mean. You can't carry anything in
New York, so you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, it's it's And then, by the way, you are
describing the true nature of Christianity versus the phony nature,
which is everybody thinks that Christians are like thank Deemonia's
self righteous.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
They want to proselytize.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
No, I don't you know, if you want to talk
to me about God and my faith, I'll gladly share
it with people, and but for me for eight is
a very personal thing. But the idea that you know,
oh the Christians screwed up? Oh they I love when
like prominent Christians fall from grace. H.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
The idea, if you're a Christian is the first thing
you admit is that you failed. Maybe you are a
sinner and that you are seeking God's redemption.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And if you look at the word repentance, you're asking
God to change your heart. That's what it means. You're
admitting you're a piece of garbage. And I'm never.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
Going to admit him a piece of garbage because I
don't think God creates garbage. I know liberals think we're garbage.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
No, we become garbage by making dumb decisions.
Speaker 11 (27:32):
Well that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
But you know now I sound like Joe Biden.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
Yeah, I'm like, I don't know about that word, but
you got to use that on purpose.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
All right, quick break, we'll come back with the phones. Hey,
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I'm good? What's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (28:20):
First of all, I'd like to thank you for the
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Thank thank you for giving it to me because I can't.
If you don't listen or watch, I'm done, I'm finished.
I'll be fired.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I know a lot of people who do.
Speaker 12 (28:37):
We're very loyal listeners, so we really sincerely appreciate it.
But you know, something hit home with me recently, the
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a clear example of the mental health crisis in our
world today. I mean, when angry disordered individuals feel entitled
to intentionally alienate, alienate those who have integrity and good character,
you know, by altering the narrative to suit their agenda,
which is, I mean, frankly, very often to play the
victim and to an audience.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
You know, look, no, go ahead, you finish your thoughts.
Speaker 12 (29:24):
I'm sorry, no, I just you know, they assassinate their
own character by doing so, you know, with anyone who's
logical and rational. But unfortunately they have a huge audience.
You know, they're toxic bullies, and the playground is their
platform for their toxic audience, who all seem to be
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addicted to toxic drama. I think I've said toxic enough here,
but go on.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But let me tell you these they don't have the
audiences they used to have. The American people have chosen
and they've chosen not to believe them. They've chosen not
to trust them. They have chosen and sought out you know,
talk radio and Fox News and podcasts and social media
as as sources of information that were not available to
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I mean Oprah Winfrey now there's reports that might be
as much as two and a half million dollars that
Harper Productions was paid. All the people that did concerts,
all the endorsements, Taylor Swift on Jovie, Bruce, Springsteen, they
didn't mean. They didn't mean a thing. Beyonce nothing, Oprah nothing.
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They had no impact on the American people. And I
think this is a very critical moment that people need
to understand.
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You better tell people the truth.
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And the American people proved to me this election how
smart and discerning they are because they turned out, turned
tuned out all that noise and they went with it.
They went with the change that this country does needs.
That's a good thing.
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We have a lot of illegal issues that have come
out of this campaign. Ones I didn't think that would
be such a big deal. We brought up the case
of Pennsylvania and they are having a legal recount there
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because there it was within the zero point five percent margin.
With that said, Dave McCormick holds a healthy lead mathematically.
I'm told it's impossible for Bob Casey to catch up.
And in spite of what was a court ruling that
was very very specific by the state Supreme Court just
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from this past September that election officials in Pennsylvania the
Commonwealth are not to count any mail in ballots that
are missing return dates on envelopes or having correct dates. Well,
election officials in certain Pencelavania counties have voted and decided
to ignore the state Supreme Court and count them anyway. Obviously,
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litigation has been filed by Republicans both in state and
nationally to stop the counting of the invalid ballots. I
don't think the State Supreme Court's going to change their mind.
I was a little disheartened with Senator John Fetterman who
just dismissed counting of provisional ballots that weren't legitimate in
Bucks County, for example, and predicted Bob Casey would have
(01:30):
to concede to Dave mccormicky. He doesn't think they can
make up the number anyway. He's trailing by eighteen thousand votes,
and most of these have already been counted, so it's
not a margin of error. But it's the principle that
matters here. And then we have another case. A Minnesota
election judge is now being charged for allegedly accepting people
(01:50):
who were not properly properly registered to vote in the
twenty twenty four election. But when you just openly defy
a court like this, this cannot stand. Senator Mike Lee
has become very outspoken about this, said Republicans could refuse
to seat Casey if the Democrat was declared the winner
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in this contest, although the AP and even liberal media
outlets in Pennsylvania have already called the race for Dave McCormick,
and Lee goes on to say Bob Casey doesn't concede.
Pennsylvania keeps counting illegal votes, and Casey relies on those
votes to claim victory. The Senate could refuse to seat him, which,
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by the way, and then he cited the clause Article one,
section five of our Constitution. Each House shall be the
judge of the elections, returns qualifications of its own members.
I hope it doesn't come to that. But there's not
a single Democrat that loves to complain about Donald Trump.
They didn't care about Stacy Abrams. They didn't care about
Hillary Clinton said the election was stolen from her and
(02:54):
Donald Trump was an illegitimate president. They only care when
republic when they can go after Republicans anyway. Brett Tolman
is back with this. Former federal prosecutor served as a
US attorney for Utah, Greg Jarrett Fox knows legal analysts,
best selling author, guys. Great to have you back. Let's
get your take, Greg Jarrett on both these cases.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, they're both disturbing, and they're both quite similar because
in Minnesota, I mean, you've got an electing judge who
is more than happy to sanction people who are not
allowed to vote to vote, and he got caught by
an auditor and he was pretty quickly arrested and criminally charged.
(03:38):
It does invite the question how many times does this
happen in Minnesota or even elsewhere in which an auditor
doesn't check or find the illegality, the criminality. And then
of course in Pennsylvania. I mean, this is a blatant
attempt to try to steal an election by defying the
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state Supreme Court, which was very clear.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
By the way, it's not an old ruling. They made
this decision in September.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, it's a new one, and the court laid it out.
You've got to have signatures, you got to have dates.
But apparently the I think it's Bucks County, the Democrat
in charge there says, well, nobody pays any attention to
the Supreme Court. You don't have to follow the law
of the land because everybody ignores it. Hockey. That is
(04:34):
just absolute nonsense, and it's you know, this is blatantly
trying to steal on an election in Pennsylvania. So you've
got two different states doing pretty much the same sort
of thing, counting people and ballots that should not be counted, you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Know, and get you can addswer this. You know, with
all the talk of a threat to democracy, and then
you have of all of these democrats openly saying that
they will aid in a bet you know, illegal immigrants,
people that didn't respect our law, border sovereignty. And Governor
Pritzki or Illinois, you come from my people, you come
through me. Of the Massachusetts governor saying she will defy
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federal law as it relates to illegal immigration and deportation.
The Chicago mayor are doing the same thing. Congressional Democrats
pledging deportation resistance.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And I'm listening to all of this.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
They're all basically saying they're willing to break the law
and aid in a bet in law breaking. And this
is what has gone on now for the last four years,
and was you know, just just outright rejected by the
American people.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Will will they be able to stop that too? Right?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, so I would say you've highlighted what I think
is plaguing the country. On the left, it is the
note that you can ignore the law. You also have
Merrick Garland, a profound example of cowardice and pettiness and
willing to turn you know, a system of laws on
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its head through the power that they have been granted.
And what I look back, I look at these elections
and also the illegal issue, and the same mantra is
being followed by the left, and that is we can
pick and choose which laws we're going to follow. I'll
tell you right now, I know what the transition team
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is focused on, and that is getting US attorneys in
this country and getting a DJ that's right sided and
understands we will enforce the law against anybody that violates it.
It's not going to matter what you know, what your
politics are. It's not going to matter you know where
you come from. It's going to matter that we have
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a system of laws that the country can count on
is going to be enforced. When I was US attornation
and had I had multiple election allegations that we engaged on.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Where are they?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Where are all the US Attorney's offices in Minnesota and Pennsylvania.
They have the ability to make sure that the federal
election follows the law in the states that they're that
they're in, and we hear nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
It's silence, Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Let me move on to a couple of other legal
issues that we have before us, one of which is
the trial of Daniel Penny, the former marine.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
And you have.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
This guy with an arrest record a mile long, forty
two prior run ins with the police, and he comes
on a subway train and he threatens you know, he says,
I don't care if I heard all of you and
hurt myself in the process, and then threatening these people
on a train, including you know, women and the elderly,
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and Daniel Penny, you know, jumps to the defense of
these people, many people testifying that they feel that their
lives were saved because of the actions of Daniel Penny.
And yet here he is on trial in New York City,
and you have to worry that this guy trying to
be a good Samaritan might end up in jail.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Greg Jarrett, Yeah, this.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Was a defense of another similar to self defense. And
if Penny believed the passengers were in a danger of
death or serious bodily injury, the law entitles him to
act precisely as he did. Even if he had a
mistaken belief, the law still says it's justifiable. I think
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what makes the difference in this case and will lead
to an acquittal the bread of witnesses, particularly women testified.
As you point out, Sewan they were terrified for their lives, fearful,
they thought they were going to die. One woman said, truly,
I thought I was going to die until Penny stepped
in to stop Neely, who was threatening the tartning to
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kill them, menacing them. And you know, these people said
they were relieved that Penny intervened to protect him. And
these jurors know how dangerous and perilous the subway is
in New York because for too long liberal mayors and
prosecutors have allowed criminals to victimize writers with impunity. It's
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not safe. I call it a death trap. So I
don't see a jury who's set up with crime in
New York handing back a guilty verdict. I think this
was entirely justified, and frankly, the prosecution should never have
been brought, but it was probably brought because Penny is white,
Nealya is black, and the lead prosecutor hinted it that
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during opening statements, accusing the defendant of being racist despite
no evidence of racism. If there was, you would have
been charged with a hate crime and he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That's a great point. What your thoughts spread.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I was, I was stunned that the toxicologist is going
to testified that she didn't want her role. You know,
she is supposed to review all the evidence, and and
she didn't review the toxicology report before declaring that it
was asphixiation, not knowing at the time that he was
(10:27):
filled with with drugs and synthetic drugs. And so you
have you have an irrational, you know response by the
DA's office in charging this case. They should have been
thanking him, you know, they should be thanking him. But
we're so sensitive to the fact that he's he's African
American and it came on the hills of you know,
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George Floyd and what was happening there that we're willing
to set aside, you know, law and order in order
to pursue a narrative that we think, we think of
a prosecutor as the right narrative and wrong. In this instance,
this was a good Samaritan, and we protect those Our
law specifically, like Greg says, have been fashioned in order
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to protect it samaritans.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
All right, quick break, We'll come back more with Greg
Jarrett and Brett Tolman on the other side.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Then we'll get to your calls.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And well, the incredible Turner Round by Joe and Mika
Liberal Joe apparently meeting with Donald Trump. Pretty interesting quick
break right back, we'll continue straight Aheadue now with Brett
Tolman and Greg Jarrett analyzing this case out of the
New York This brave marine now in a fight for
his life Daniel Penny. As we also talk about, even
(11:35):
though Supreme Court of Pennsylvania decision came down in September,
you do have people now just defying a Supreme Court order.
It is unbelievable lawlessness. Really, to me is a cut
and dry case, and I'm hoping that the jury that
probably many on the jury take the subway on a
regular basis. Greg, you said you took of a thirty
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some odd years, which I have known to standing why
you would do that. I mean, it's gotten so insane.
I've had this long standing battle with Linda over her
getting on the subway, and she is just in spite
of offering to pay for an Uber Black, which is
a higher end Uber car, she refuses and still prefers
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the subway over my very generous offer, wouldn't you say, Greg, Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It's incredibly generous. It's the same offer I've made for
my daughters. I opened an account on my card for
Uber for them to use, and I have strictly forbidden
them from using the subway. I have a feeling they
don't always abide by my request, but I don't go
there anymore. You know, years ago, when I first moved
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to New York in the early nineties, it was a
safe place. You know, Giuliani cleaned up the place his
successor did. But you know, once Democrat mayors came into town,
this subway just came open season on innocent writers. And
of course the stories are constant in the media. People killed,
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thrown on the tracks, rob beaten, stabbed, shot. You know,
it won't stop until we have prosecutors and mayors who
really care about enforcing the law and protecting innocent victims
instead of protecting the career criminals.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I have given my kids the same, the same gift
that you've given them, and that is, you know, you
can use my card, You can use ubers anytime, and
I will never question it at all. And you know,
get the higher end Uber, no problem. I'll pay for it.
It's from my peace of mind as much as theirs
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and safety. But you know that's that's the state of
you know, the fundusmenttle no bail laws in New York.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Brett, Yeah, and then you combined with it, you know,
proussers are sending the signal out they're not going to
prosecute certain crimes. Well, at the same time, we're not
going to enforce our borders. So what you have then
is this this powder keg that's building of individuals that
pour into the country. They want to get to the
cities like New York and Chicago and otherwise because they
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can be as criminal as they want and they have
far less likelihood of getting prosecuted. The only true deterrence
we have, it's not the length of sentence. It is
the predictability of getting caught and prosecuted. And when you
take that predictability away, you've taken all deterrence in your
criminal justice system out.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's unbelievable. Anyway, I appreciate both of you. Incredible times
we're living in, that's for sure. Brett Tolman, Greg Jarrett
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org for the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. Well, there was
a big surprise. I do know a little bit about
the backstory, and I had heard about it this weekend.
First I chuckled, And the more I think about it,
the more ridiculous it is. But I guess, you know,
I guess it's Donald Trump's way. Apparently, Joe and Mika
(16:42):
requested a breakfast with Donald Trump. Donald. I guess they
live somewhere in Florida. I don't know where they live anyway,
So they went tomorrow lago. After all that they have
been saying about Donald Trump for eight years or thereabouts,
they wanted to meet Donald Trump. And they explain on
their morning show this morning how the visit went.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from
so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply
dismayed by several of President Elect Trump's cabinet selections, and
they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns
on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the
opportunity to speak with the President elect himself. On Friday,
(17:29):
we were given the opportunity to do just that. Joe
and I went to mar A Lago to meet personally
with President elect Trump. It was the first time we
have seen him in seven years now.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
We talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation,
threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets.
We talked about that a good bit and it's going
to come as no surprise to anybody who watched this show,
has watched it over the past year or over the
past decade.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
That we didn't see eye to eye on a lot
of issues, and.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We told him so.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
What we did agree on was to restar our communications.
And for those asking why we would go speak to
the President elect during such fraught times, especially between us,
I guess I would ask back why.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Wouldn't we Wow, Maybe because this is how you talked
about him, and this is the I could literally run,
you know, a three hour program on the horrific things
they have said over the years about Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
This is a small sampling, you know, I how do
you say it? I mean he's talking about genes.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
And that the that immigrants have bad genes.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
It's kind of kind of fascist.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
I think the Nazi. We'll have more and people are
actively actively choosing when they go in to vote for
this guy, to vote for a bigot.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
A fascist, a man who says he wants to be
an authoritarian and a dictator. On day one, Yeah, the
men's club grill at country clubs that are perfectly fine
voting for a guy who talks about vermin a Nazi term, who.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Also uses sort of the fascist.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Slogan of go back to where you came from, for
sitting members of Congress that don't happen to be white.
And then yesterday, just take a look at him, just seriously,
like what is this?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Nineteen thirty three And it could go on and on
in a loop. Why Donald Trump decided to meet with them,
I don't know. I'm not going to question the President elect.
That's a decision that he makes on his own, and
maybe he just wanted it to clear the air. And
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it is probably a big part of him that doesn't
even know how awful they have been to him and
why they want to meet with a fascist, a Nazi,
a bigot, a white nationalist, and every other name that
they called him on a regular basis. You know, the
people that pedaled, you know, their network pedaled more lies
(20:24):
and conspiracy theories. You know, they never once stood up
for what would be real justice or equal justice under
the law. They've allowed the lawfair against Donald Trump to go,
you know, totally uncriticized or lacking any critical thought, any honest,
you know, intellectual honesty on their part. You know, even
(20:46):
the valuation of Donald Trump's you know, mar A Lago
at eighteen million, which is obscene and absurd. They didn't
once stick up for Donald Trump and the idea. Now
that they want to have a conversation with him, I
think the conversation is over. I would have nothing to
do or nothing to say to these people, and it
(21:06):
is the most bizarre thing, and I can't believe what's
going to come out of my mouth. But I think
the ladies over at that hard hitting news show on ABC.
The View had it right when they were critical of
this trip.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
I think there's a lot of people who are probably
looking at what Joe and Mika did and find it
or portunistic. There are people who change their stripes or
maybe they're spots, I should say today, depending on who
is in power, on what benefits them. I don't know
that that's what they are doing and not to me,
it's a to be determined situation because right now it's
(21:41):
the transition.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
We don't know what he's going to do as president.
Speaker 9 (21:45):
We don't know what they're going to do if he
commits abuses of power as president. So you know, everybody
has to live with their decision. Everybody has to look
at themselves in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I'm good.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
We have to be very clear eyed when we think
about the president elect and cover the president elect. And
I don't think you need to sit down for ninety
minutes at mar A Lago and kiss his ring to
be able to speak truth and to be able to
cover a story. So maybe they're not journalists in the
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true sense. Maybe they're saying that they're opinion general journalists.
But we have to remember that Trump is the guy
who ushered in the era of fake news. He is
the guy who ushered in alternative facts.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
They are the ones that pedaled the floating news. The
irony of all of it is none of these people
have come to the realization yet that legacy media died,
and it is dead. It is gone, it is buried.
And I keep going over this because the one thing
that stands out in this election. For nine years, every
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major newspaper, every broadcast channel, every late night comedy show,
with the exception of Greg Guttfeld, and every single liberal
cable news network of which they are part of, has
done nothing but obsess and call this man every name
in the book and the country. They've heard it, you know,
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at different times they heard it. I don't think anybody
could tolerate watching liberal Joe and Mika, you know, for
more than two minutes without wanting to flip the channel
fast and as reflected by their low ratings. But putting
all that aside, now, I don't know what Donald Trump's
thinking now. The Bible does tell us that we should
forgive people seventy times seven. Linda and I have fun
(23:42):
discussions about this all the time because she You know,
Linda has gotten into Bible studies, she's got a new pastor,
and she's doing great things in her spiritual life, which
we've talked about. And I'm doing the same. In mind,
I'm not I'm very open about it. And we need
to forgive people. Seventy times seven, Linda, what are the
(24:03):
odds you would ever forgive Joe and Mika if.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
You were Donald Trump?
Speaker 11 (24:08):
Less than zero?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Less than zero. But at least the women of the
viewer being more honest about it.
Speaker 11 (24:17):
Take all day, every day, somebody telling me to my face,
don't talk to me, don't say hello, don't say talk
to you. Fine, we don't have to like each other.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
We don't. It's all good deep down, deep down. You
like me, you I like I do. But there's a
lot of people I don't like and they do know it. Oh,
I know you have a.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
I'm not fake. I'm not about the favorite.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That would be. You are very real. Now, you can
forgive somebody, but you don't have absolutely that's my point.
You don't.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You don't have to be you don't even have to
talk to them, but you can forgive them. But as
a matter of fact, the Bible says the Lord's prayer.
Forgive us as we forgive.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Right.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
Yeah, I do it every week, do it, do it
every week, supposed to do it every day.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Every time somebody screws you over.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh my gosh, I want to beat When you get
to the Pearly Gates, I'll probably be waiting.
Speaker 11 (25:10):
Listen, everybody the same thing.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I'll be one of the recognizable people. Oh look, here's
she's gonna try and get in and watch this. It's
gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Now, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to Saint Peter or
whoever is in charge of the Pearl Gates, and I'm
gonna I'm gonna put in a good word for you.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I'm gonna try. I'm going to meet it. Thank you,
I appreciate it. Yeah, I think you might need a
little help there.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Maybe I'll be like, uh, your defense attorney and say, forgive,
forgive them Father for the for she knew not what
she was doing.
Speaker 11 (25:37):
But see I do, And I say to God every night,
I'm like, listen, I know you created me in your image.
You already know that I have a lot of issues
and I'm working on it, and every night I ask
for forgiveness. And every day I try to do my best.
You know, Like I took my car in for inspection
and they said my horn was getting worn down. You know,
but it's better for me to beat at you than
to I've.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Heard that horn a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, if you have a conversation when you're driving a car,
very real thing, and then a lot of exploders come
out of your mouth.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
You blanking, blanketing, blank window, which is an improvement us.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Oh so you just say it.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You know, you used to roll your window down, and
you just you just say it out loud in the
car to yourself.
Speaker 11 (26:16):
I still roll it down, but you know I'm working
on that.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Okay, you need to. That's not a good idea.
Speaker 11 (26:21):
You're going to get the wrong today because people are nuts,
you know what I mean. You can't carry anything in
New York, so you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, it's it's And then, by the way, you are
describing the true nature of Christianity versus the phony nature,
which is everybody thinks that Christians are like thank Deemonia's
self righteous.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
They want to proselytize.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
No, I don't you know, if you want to talk
to me about God and my faith, I'll gladly share
it with people, and but for me for eight is
a very personal thing. But the idea that you know,
oh the Christians screwed up? Oh they I love when
like prominent Christians fall from grace. H.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
The idea, if you're a Christian is the first thing
you admit is that you failed. Maybe you are a
sinner and that you are seeking God's redemption.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And if you look at the word repentance, you're asking
God to change your heart. That's what it means. You're
admitting you're a piece of garbage. And I'm never.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
Going to admit him a piece of garbage because I
don't think God creates garbage. I know liberals think we're garbage.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
No, we become garbage by making dumb decisions.
Speaker 11 (27:32):
Well that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
But you know now I sound like Joe Biden.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
Yeah, I'm like, I don't know about that word, but
you got to use that on purpose.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
All right, quick break, we'll come back with the phones. Hey,
eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn is our number.
If you want to be a part of the program
as we continue.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
The final hour roundup is next. You do not want
to miss it. And stay tuned for the final hour
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Speaker 1 (28:06):
All right, let's get to our busy phones. Eight hundred
and ninefold one. Sean is our number if you want
to join us The Lisa Ohio Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Hey Lisa, how are.
Speaker 12 (28:15):
You, Hi, Son, I'm good. How are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I'm good? What's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (28:20):
First of all, I'd like to thank you for the
authenticity of your platform and the fact that you honor
the American people with the truth. We very much appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Thank thank you for giving it to me because I can't.
If you don't listen or watch, I'm done, I'm finished.
I'll be fired.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I know a lot of people who do.
Speaker 12 (28:37):
We're very loyal listeners, so we really sincerely appreciate it.
But you know, something hit home with me recently, the
small business owner and I just was the recent disparaging
in completely inaccurate comments targeting the whole Truman's Bakery, a
small family owned business, shamefully appalling. I mean, frankly, it's
(29:00):
a clear example of the mental health crisis in our
world today. I mean, when angry disordered individuals feel entitled
to intentionally alienate, alienate those who have integrity and good character,
you know, by altering the narrative to suit their agenda,
which is, I mean, frankly, very often to play the
victim and to an audience.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
You know, look, no, go ahead, you finish your thoughts.
Speaker 12 (29:24):
I'm sorry, no, I just you know, they assassinate their
own character by doing so, you know, with anyone who's
logical and rational. But unfortunately they have a huge audience.
You know, they're toxic bullies, and the playground is their
platform for their toxic audience, who all seem to be
(29:44):
addicted to toxic drama. I think I've said toxic enough here,
but go on.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But let me tell you these they don't have the
audiences they used to have. The American people have chosen
and they've chosen not to believe them. They've chosen not
to trust them. They have chosen and sought out you know,
talk radio and Fox News and podcasts and social media
as as sources of information that were not available to
(30:12):
them years ago. So in many ways they have lost
their grip on all influence and power, celebrity influence as well,
I mean Oprah Winfrey now there's reports that might be
as much as two and a half million dollars that
Harper Productions was paid. All the people that did concerts,
all the endorsements, Taylor Swift on Jovie, Bruce, Springsteen, they
didn't mean. They didn't mean a thing. Beyonce nothing, Oprah nothing.
(30:37):
They had no impact on the American people. And I
think this is a very critical moment that people need
to understand.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You better tell people the truth.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And the American people proved to me this election how
smart and discerning they are because they turned out, turned
tuned out all that noise and they went with it.
They went with the change that this country does needs.
That's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Lisa.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
We love our friends in Ohio. God bless you and
thank you for being with us. All Right, Christmas, I
know it's hard to believe. It's right around the corner.
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