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March 18, 2025 • 28 mins

Scott Walker, former Governor of Wisconsin and current President of YAF, warns us about a very important election happening on April 1st that could and will change the face of the 2026 midterm elections. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, thanks Scott Shannon, and thanks to all of
you for being with us hour two Sean Hannity Show,
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the program, less than two hours, and we expect the
astronauts that had been stranded for two hundred and eighty
six days to return to Earth just as the end,

(00:22):
as this program ends today. The flight plan began with
a half minute de orbit thruster firing that started. You know, well,
this will happen later today, but they began. It's a
seventeen hour journey and with Crew nine commander and a
cosmonaut involved, launched to the station last September aboard the

(00:45):
same space X crew Dragon capsule, carrying all four of
them home. Now it called for an automated seven and
a half minute the orbit thruster starting at five to
eleven PM to slow down for a re entry. After
what is called or described as a twenty seven minute
free fall, the spacecraft is expected to plunge back into
the discernible atmosphere for the final twelve minutes of descent,

(01:08):
making a parachute assisted splash down off the Florida Panhandle
Gulf Coast a few minutes before six pm tonight, as
we're basically going off this radio program. Elon Musk will
be on Hannity tonight. We'll talk about all of this
with him. A SpaceX recovery ship will be stationed nearby.
They will haul the spacecraft on board so the crew
can be helped out of the crew dragon's cabin and

(01:32):
onto stretchers for initial medical checks. Now there are just
for your awareness, astronauts have a lot of health issues
that they face. As Sonny Williams and Butch Wilmore are
finally getting their unexpected nine months stay in space, but
their health journey will just begin on Earth. This is

(01:52):
not an easy transition. They may face a variety of
health problems. They may face weaker bones and muscles. They
might have vision issues, baby feet. I'll explain what that
is in a second. As their bodies now adjust to
getting back to the planet's gravity and anyway, the expected
arrival is five point fifty seven pm Eastern Time. It

(02:13):
is now four to eight Eastern time, now four nine
Eastern time, and they arrived at the International Space Station.
They were only supposed to be there eight days. It's
two hundred and eighty six days that they have been
up there, and it's one of the longest periods of
time on board the International Space Station. Immediately they will
get checked out by doctors. When they splash down, they'll

(02:36):
undergo a very thorough medical exam at NASA's Lyndon B.
Johnson's Space Center in Houston. They won't be allowed to
go home until the doctors clear them. Astronauts often say
they feel wobbly nauseated when they return to Earth because
of the ears vestibular system has to Readjust interesting side note,

(02:58):
bones become about one percent less dense for every month
you spend in space. They were there for nine months,
especially bones in the legs and hips and spine, which
do the heavy lifting on Earth. Muscles don't need to
work as hard in space, so they begin to atrophy.
All of that could lead to falls, bone fracture, osteoporosis,

(03:20):
other medical problems. So this is not over if and
we all pray that they splash down successfully and now.
To counteract these effects, astronauts they exercise two hours a
day in space, including cardio and resistance training. It's all
part of their job to keep their bones and muscles strong,

(03:42):
but they still feel the impact when they return home.
It's a big shock. When they get back on Earth.
They have to get used to gravity once again. Astronauts
grow in space, believe it or not, because the spinal
column will expand out without the gravity. One astronaut, literally,

(04:03):
Scott Kelly, became two inches taller. On Earth's spinal disks
will again compress and that can create back pain upon
coming back. Astronauts eyes and brain structure change in space.
Not being with gravity, fluids and the body shift upward
to the head that puts pressure on the eyes. It
can cause visual problems. That condition is known as spaceflight

(04:26):
associated neuroocular syndrome. Changes include swelling the optic nerve, folds
in the retina, the flattening of the back of the eye,
and blurry vision. Some changes. You know. Unfortunately, it's very
risky what they do, very courageous what they do. It
could be permanent. In some cases. They have what's called

(04:48):
baby feet. They're designed to, you know, on Earth, to
bear the body's weight, so the skin on the bottom
of is tough and sturdy and people walk around, but
astronauts float in space. You know, their feet don't support much,
and the souls become very delicate. You basically lose the
thick part of the skin on your feet that develops

(05:10):
and the callouses that develop, and those calluses fall off,
and one astronaut said described it as the softest feet,
according to a masseuse, that they ever felt in their
entire life. Anyway, so researchers report that the astronauts, you know,
there have been astronauts that developed rash and skin sensitivity
when they come home. In that case, it was a

(05:31):
three hundred and forty day trek into space. The symptoms
lasted six days after he landed on Earth, successfully treated
with medication, hydrotherapy, massage. So anyway, here to talk about
all of this is Luis Elizondo. He's the former head
of the Pentagon program, responsible for the investigation of UFOs,
author of Imminent Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for such and

(05:55):
joining us as Sarah Carter investigative journalists. And maybe you
don't know this about us, she knows an awful lot
about the space program. Was there for the Falcon nine
and re entry of the North Grumming invitation red Wire
to see it up close and personal. Sarah you're pretty
obsessed with this. I am.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I am.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I'm glad to admit it. I'm a bit of a nerd.
I wish I wish I knew as much as Elon
Musk about all of these aspects of space. I do
believe that we are going to be a space faring species.
We are. I mean, I think we're going to go
far beyond the Moon and the ISS. I think that's
very exciting. But I think, you know, a situation like this,

(06:34):
you described the serious nature of it sean for the astronauts,
they really are putting everything on the line. Their lives
are on the line. They went up there, they were thinking,
you know, I'm going to be up here for a week.
It's been nine months. It was unplanned, so they're going
to be going through a recovery all year. I think
they're so excited they have to be to know that
they're going to be coming back to Earth. Everyone here

(06:56):
on the planet is praying for them. I was so
excited to see Falcon nine launch earlier this year. It
was a Northrop Grumman launch. They were taking supplies with
red wire for our scientists at the ISS. At the time,
the astronauts were actually on board during that time, of course,

(07:18):
still stuck up in space. And when I saw the
booster come back down, it was the most astonishing human
feet that you can ever imagine. My son was there,
my daughter, our two youngest, and our son is studying
right now robotics at the university. He is way smarter
than all of us and he wants to build specifically

(07:40):
robotics for space for Mars. His dream is to warhead JPL.
So it was. It was really one of the most
amazing human feats ever. And right now SpaceX have completed
four hundred and forty six of these missions. They've done
a total of four hundred and one of these landing
and for those of you who haven't seen this booster

(08:02):
come back down into re entry, it is absolutely extraordinary.
It reminds me of watching, you know, something on science fiction,
and to say that humanity has reached this point is
pretty awesome times. So, I have a lot of faith
in SpaceX, I have a lot of faith in Elon Musk,
and I'm very excited to see these astronauts a return

(08:25):
to Earth.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I'm very excited and our prayers are with them. Louise Elazanda,
what's your take on.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
It all, well Son, You're absolutely right. We're dealing with
a lot of different issues here. I'm not sure people
really appreciate exactly what's going on right now. First and foremost,
there we are going to be an are a space
faring species. But as it stands today, there's nothing about
going to space. It is still a very very dangerous,

(08:52):
very very risky endeavor, and there's all sorts of risks involved.
It's not just a telemetry and speed and earing issue,
but there is there's significant health consequences biologically. My background
actually was in the field of medicine and biology microbiology,
and there are some distinct morphological changes that occur. And
you talked about baby feed and some things like that,

(09:14):
but there's actually some other issues too. There's issues to
the vascular system because our veins are designed to have
little valves in there in order to counter the effects
of gravity, and when you don't have gravity now the
circulatory system behaves differently. Right. You talked about muscle atrophy.
You know what most people probably realize, The heart is
a giant muscle and that too is prone to muscle atrophy.

(09:37):
You have bone degradation where you lose a percentage, as
you said, a bone density, and that is really really significant.
And so I talked to an astronaut a couple of
years ago, and he gave me a little bit of
an analogy here that it kind of makes sense. He said,
if you want to know what it's like to come
back to Earth, imagine being putting a jellyfish in a slingshot.

(09:58):
And that's what it feels like. Because you're used to
a microgravity environment when you are in orbit, and all
of a sudden, now you're thrust back into reality of
a nine point eight meters per second squared environment where
your body, every part of your body is constantly being
tugged towards towards the surface of the Earth. And that
puts a tremendous strain on the body, especially when you

(10:19):
have to reacclimate, and then you have just the sheer
feet of engineering. I try to explain to people, this
is not like just shooting a rocket in a space
and kind of maneuvering to a space station. It's more
akin to firing a bullet. Shooting a bullet into the
sky at seventeen thousand, five hundred miles an hour and
then oh, by the way, hitting another bullet that's traveling

(10:39):
one hundred and twenty miles above your head, that's also
traveling at seventeen thousand, five hundred miles an hour, right,
and it's there's a tremendous amount of engineering that goes
behind this these types of missions. And by the way,
this mission is in routine itself. This one might even
argue that this is actually a rescue mission. So if
anybody's ever seen the old movie of Apollo thirteen, you know,

(11:03):
I think we're dealing with something potentially very similar to that,
and where you have the lives of astronauts frankly that
could be at risk here and their health, but also
the fact that you have a space capsule that's going
to be rear entering back to Earth coming in from
four point think about this, four point seven miles per
second right when these spaces the Dragon space capsule comes

(11:25):
back in through reentry roughly about thousand feet in altitude.
Is really when the atmosphere of the Earth can really
begin to become a serious effect on the spacecraft, where
temperatures can range anywhere between three thousand degrees to five
thousand degrees fahrenheit.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, let me ask you both this because we've all
you know, every part of this is dangerous. We've all
watched the launch of this rocket. We've all watched the
rocket actually land back, and we have the video of
it landing and being saved, which is incredible in in itself.
We watched the docking video, we now have the return

(12:05):
and the takeoff video. And now the final dangerous part
of this mission is the splashdown. Based on your experience, Sarah,
how dangerous is that?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I think it's going to be extraordinarily dangerous. I think that,
like lou is describing, there's so many elements that have
to happen all at once. I love the description of
the bullet right, you know, shooting a bullet off into
space just to hit another bullet that's up there. It's significant.
I mean, so we're looking at physics, mathematics, making sure

(12:35):
everything is in tune, making sure that everybody is on
the same page, and ensuring the safety of the astronauts.
Come first, you're going to have to look at weather.
Weather is extraordinary. I mean you can imagine being out
there getting ready for a rocket launch and then they
got to shut it down within the last five minutes
because of cloud coverage because of something that is happening

(12:56):
with the weather because of high winds. So they're going
to be monitoring the weather. They're going to be monitoring
every aspect of that re entry into Earth's orbit for
those astronauts, because the most important thing, of course, we
want to see them come back home. We want to
see them come back home safely. We want to see
them come back home and celebrate that their safety and

(13:18):
that they're back with us and back with their families
and give them the heroes welcome that they deserve. So
they're going to try to make sure Sean that every
single aspect of that re entry is working like a
perfect concerto, like a perfect musical concerto. And I can
tell you based on what Elon Musk has been able
to do, based on the fact that research and development

(13:40):
in the private sector is extraordinary, we would have never
seen anything like this. I don't believe if it was
just government run, you know, research and development R and D. There,
everything's really slow. In the private sector, we're able to
see extraordinary advances. And I think this is where Elon
Musk shines, this is where space shines, and working together

(14:02):
with the government is essential. And I think we're going
to get those astronauts safely home as long as everything
is working together, like I said, like a insurto, so
that they can get back in and be home with
their family safely and be backrun Earth about.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
An hour and thirty seven minutes we expect splash down.
I appreciate your time, Sarah, thank you, Luise Elizondo, thank you.
We'll get to your calls coming up straight ahead. We
have what might be the most important election of the year,
and it is for the Republican Party. Now take you
back to twenty twenty and the election of twenty twenty

(14:41):
and one of the arguments I made is, for example,
in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, they have a constitution. The
constitution limited the ability of voters to vote by mail,
and rather than go through the arduous process of going
for a constitutional amendment, they just decid to legislatively, you

(15:02):
pass a law which does not negate the constitutional provision.
I believe that was unconstitutional. You had similar issues arise
in Wisconsin. There was a three to four decision. It
went against my point of view in this particular case,
with a stinging dissent at the then Chief Justice on
the Wisconsin Supreme Court talking about if we don't follow

(15:25):
the rule of law in this state, it will forever
be this way. So it really does matter. Now there
is a lot at stake, including redistricting. You have two
candidates that will be on the ballot, and I don't
think most people in Wisconsin or the country are focused
on it. And this is going to be an argument
I will make to you long before the twenty twenty

(15:49):
six elections get here. If Democrats ever get a hold
of the House and or the Senate, they're going to
be impeaching Donald Trump ten twelve to fifteen times. It's
not going to stop because that's the only thing that
they can cling on to. That and of course their
defense of men's rights to play women's sports, and putting
the rights of illegal immigrants over the safety of Americans

(16:11):
and somehow calling it a constitutional crisis if you identify waste, fraud,
abuse and corruption and government spending well over one hundred
billion dollars identified now and we're just getting started. But anyway,
it would also you know, they will decide the fate
of the Republican twenty eleven law that ended collective bargaining
for most of Wisconsin public employee unions if parts of

(16:35):
it were struck down by a lower court judge this year.
The candidate's only debate took place Wednesday night, last Wednesday,
in a modest sized lecture hall at Marquette University Law School.
And at the end of the day, voters you know,
have now begun to cast their ballots as of today

(16:55):
in this pivotal Supreme Court case that will determine whether
liberals keep this limit majority on the highest court in
what is a critical battleground state. Anyway, here to weigh
in on the ramifications of how important this is is
former Governor of Wisconsin. Friend of the program Scott Walker
is with us now president of the YAF Young American Foundation,

(17:18):
warning us about how important this election is. Governor, great
to have you back, How are you?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Thank you, Sean, Thanks for me on and thanks for
as usual being on top of the most important things
out there in this case that probably most people listening
don't even know about.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah. The polling as of March ninth and tenth showed
a forty seven forty seven split Now for the Conservatives
to have a majority on the court. That means that
that means that Trump Republicans in Wisconsin are going to
have to show up. This is going to be that

(17:52):
kind of election, a base election, that's going to be
you know, who gets more of their people out to
the polls. And again I'm worried that most people are
aren't aware of what's happening in two weeks.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, that's exactly right. Anybody listening, not just those of
us from Wisconsin, but anyone who knows anybody, a business friend,
an ally, an old schoolmate, whoever it might be, needs
to tell them how important this is. Because we know.
The good news is we know that if all are
nearly all of the people who like me voted for
Donald Trump here in Wisconsin last November, if we show

(18:22):
up to vote, we will win this election. But historically
there's a big drop off. And that's particularly true in
the research we've done of people who cast about for
Donald Trump and Jdvan's last fall. Many of them, several
hundred thousand of them are people who don't traditionally vote
in the spring elections. And so our case has been
made in why it's such a national issue, not just

(18:43):
the things you mentioned in state, certainly the reforms I did,
school choice, voter I d all those things are at
stake in this election, because they'll all go away if
there's four radical activists on the court. But just nationally,
if you care about ensuring that Donald Trump can continue
to do the final animal job he's doing, just look
at this weekend the loan as an example. We saw
what one judge can do to try and stop President

(19:07):
his administration or trying to send back some of the
worst people in the world, the worst criminals out there,
back to the countries of origin. Imagine Susan Crawford Deliver
running in this race and three others on the Wisconsin
Court blocking that from happening in the state of Wisconsin.
Then on top of that, she said, I mean her.
The people campaigning for her, they sent out of Nailing

(19:28):
for one of these fundraising calls. She appears on it,
and they actually said in the invitation that their plan
with her winning is to take two House suits currently
held by Republicans and Jerry Manner them in the Democrat
controlled seats. This is what it's all about. So why
George Searles, Rex Hoffman, J. D. Brisker and others are
spending millions of dollars here we can win we can

(19:50):
counter that. But if we get the right people out,
and that means everybody voted for Trump, he's got to
vote this spring for Brad Shimmel.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
All right, So it's very very important now, is there
is is there any you know, centralized organizational effort to
get conservatives to the polls for this election that's going
to take place on April first, and early voting had
just started today.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
It started today. My wife and I live in Waukeshat
County and the town of Delop who we're voting today
and made the pitch. The good news is the movement
has woke up. So besides the Republican Party Wisconsin, besides
the Shimel campaign, which is Shimmel for Justice dot Com,
besides the RNC and others, you've got every major group here.
Elon Musk has got his super pac invested, who helped

(20:35):
us out win this last fall. You've got Turning Point Action,
You've got Heritage Action, You've got Americans for Prosperity, You've
got all these groups and so many others out there
like the out plowing away. But it's going to take
all that and more, because again, why does George Soros
Carrerots not just because he wants to get rid of
the reforms I did years ago as governors. It's because

(20:58):
they want to stop the Trump agenda dead in its tracks.
And they know if they put one more not just
a liberal, but an activist justice on the Supreme Court
in Wisconsin, they will do everything in their power to
block the Trump agenda and to flip the House majority,
potentially even before the twenty twenty sixth elections. We cannot
let that happen.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know what's amazing about this is the fact that
you know, this election has taken place, and so few
people know about it. I'm glad that all these groups
are now mobilizing, and I think they're going to pay
a play a very critical part if we're going to
win this, you know, win those runoff basically. And why

(21:39):
did they schedule it at such an odd time? I mean, well,
that's just the.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Case with these spring elections, and you know right now
there's a four three split. The last several years since
President Trump's been in office, Eric Holder and the liberals
and Soros funding and all this have systematically gone after
our Supreme Court. But that this race is even more
critical because the fourth Justice who's left of center is

(22:05):
someone who's been on the bench for twenty five years.
She still believes in some degree in president, but she'll
be gone after this election if they elect the fourth
truly activist one. This is just critical in terms of
what can be done here. I was just last night,
for example, with Donald Trump Junior making the case nearby
my home in Waukesha County. My hope is in the

(22:26):
next two weeks we'll get President Trump in here because
I think the president being here is president forty seven
forty seven. You mentioned that poll done by the state
wide Chamber, so very reliable poll. I mean, it's a
dead heat. If President Donald Trump comes to Wisconsin, I
believe he alone can push this race over the top,
and not just save Wisconsin, saved the Republic, as he's

(22:47):
done something before.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I mean, let me see this now playing out on
a large scale. For example, we've had this battle and
this rogue judge. It's very very clear that the president
as commander in chief and the alien Enemies Act, and
if you look at the actual verbiage in this is

(23:10):
that any invasion, predatory incursion shall be perpetrated or attempted
or threatened against the territory of the US by any
foreign nation government. The President of the United States shall
make the proclamation of the event. All native citizens or
subjects of hostile nations being males over the age of
fourteen and upwards within the US not actually naturalized, shall

(23:32):
be liable to be apprehended, restraints, secured, and removed as
alien enemies. Well that's going on right now, And yet
you see this one road judge is preventing Donald Trump
from even getting rid of Trende Ragua gang members, which
makes absolutely no sense to anybody.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
No, I mean, I think all of us who voted
for Donald Trump, this's exactly what we wanted. We wanted
the worst of the worst when in one of these
radical criminals elements, the gangs, worldwide, global gang members out
of America back to the country. Horge, you do exactly
what we expected. And I think the vast majority of Americans,
not just Republicans are conservatives, but just red, white, blue

(24:13):
blooded Americans just understand how important this is. But and
I give credit to people like Steven Miller, and he
went through our program years ago at Young America's Foundation.
He's just done a bang up job of getting this
and spelling this out. Any of us who've been to
the border, I know you've been there many times, but
any of us who've been to the border, I've seen
it firsthand, have seen the full scale invasion we saw

(24:34):
during the four years of the Biden administration. Anyone who
claims that it's not happening, it's just blind. He has
every right as President of the United States to invoke this,
just like Greg Abbott did what he could during the
four years Biden was in office to stop the invasion
happening along his portions border in Texas. We've got to
do that now more than ever. And we've got to
get these not only security border, but get these criminals,

(24:56):
these gang members, these malicious terrorists out of America. Don't
need any judge, be it a federal judge like we
saw this weekend or Susan Crawford and the other crazy
liberals in Wisconsin that want to take over the Supreme Court.
You can't let that happen here either.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
So in twenty twenty three, after the Democratic back candidate
one and flip control of the State Supreme Court in
Wisconsin to the left for the first time in fifteen years,
the court has thrown out Republican draw and legislative maps
that has led to Democratic gains in the November election,
and reinstated absentee ballot drop boxes. It hurt a case

(25:31):
challenging in eighteen forty nine law banning abortions in the state.
They've yet to issue their ruling there. What are the
very specific issues that the court is likely to take up?
And you know in once this new this, once this court,
the makeup of the court is finally determined.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, it is clear based upon the latest most recent
radicals you mentioned when she wanted twenty three took office
that August, the groups just lined up up after that
because they knew even that it was four to three
leaning left over right, that that fourth that I mentioned,
the one who's retiring, still believe in precedents, the things
like the law that I pushed through that took power

(26:11):
from the big government union bosses and put it back
in the hands of the hard working taxpayers that law.
Immediately they went to challenge that after this new justice
touring the court, with the idea being that once a
fourth came up this year and was put on the bench,
if they had a four to three, activists not just
the liberal majority, but activists, radical, brazen political folks that

(26:35):
they could undo that and everything. Even going back to
thirty five years ago, Wisconsin had the first school choice
voucher program in America the city of Milwaukee. That could
be gone. Voter Ida could be gone, Confield carriers could
be gone, you name it. Every major conservative reform we've
done in this state could be gone just because of
the election. And that shows you how rap wise these

(26:57):
liberals have been.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
You have money, and you know JB. Pritzker involved, and
Tim Wallas is supposed to make an appearance tonight and
host an anti Musk town hall, and Eric Holder is
all involved in this too.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Absolutely, you got every major winner of the henchmen on
the left is here and spending big, and Wisconsin we
had leveled the playing field and they just poured millions
more in. So right now Crawford and her allies are
running about a thousand points higher. I think the way
to offset that we saw last fall. You know, Donald
Trump's campaign and allies were outspent by about a billion

(27:32):
and his command of earned meeda, his command of social
media combined to counter that. That's why I just hope
and pray that we can get the president before this election,
because I think he can help offset all the money
that's being spent here. They're spending a lot more than
they did two years ago.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
All right, Scott Walker, We're going to stay on this
issue and follow it closely. April first, our early voting
as started in Wisconsin. I'd ask every everybody in Wisconsin,
get your friends, your neighbors, and assume that your vote
will be the determining vote in this race. A lot
of money is being thrown at the conservatives in the

(28:12):
conservative in this race for the very purpose of having
a liberal court Supreme Court in Wisconsin. Scott Walker, good
to hear your voice again, my friend. Thank you. Eight
hundred nine four one Sewan. If you want to be
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