September 13, 2023 • 30 mins
Mark Penn, is a managing partner of the Stagwell Group, a private equity firm specializing in marketing services companies, as well as chairman of the Harris Poll and author of “Microtrends Squared.”He served as pollster and adviser to President Clinton from 1995 to 2000, including during Clinton’s impeachment, today he talks about the WAPO column on Biden.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, we am come in your city, don't pay a
guitars and saying you a conscious will be dire And
if you want a little banging, Uni, I come along.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
That's why today I am directing our House Committee to
open a formal impeachment inquiry to President Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I love voting. I'm not voting to fund the government
because Republicans and Democrats have spent too much.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Like I think holding hostage and impeachment inquiry is wrong.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You may have a game plan, he just hasn't shared
it with me. But I tell you what I don't
know about you. But I'm going to go to bed.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Freedom is back in the style, Welcome to the revolution, coming.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
To your city, don't the way against and saying you
a conscious self.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
The news Sean Hennity show, more him the scenes, information
on freaking news, and.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
More bold inspired solutions for America. Stay right here for
our final news roundup and Information Overload. Hi News round
Up and Information Overload hour. Let me give you our
toll free number. It's eight hundred and nine to four one. Sean.
You want to be a part of the program. We
love to hear from you this hour. So I said
(01:27):
this I think back, we should pull a tape. Linda, right,
what did I say about the Maureen Dowd column being
she excoriated and she never excoriates Democrats excoriated Joe Biden
but not recognizing his four year old, innocent, little granddaughter
in Arkansas. And I said, that's the canarian the call mine.
(01:48):
Then I noticed, all of a sudden, one particular weekend,
maybe three four weeks ago, Politico, the New York Times,
and the Washington Post actually had real stories involving what
we're calling the Joe Biden bribery and money laundering scandal allegations.
And they all moved this story in their own way.
(02:09):
And then we noticed last week, what do we talk about?
More canaries in the coal mine? And that was you know,
in one week you get criticisms from very prominent voices
within Democratic Party ranks, Van Jones and David Axelrod and
James Carville, culminating in today the Washington Post column opinion
(02:30):
column by David Ignatius, probably oh one of the biggest
Biden supporters in all the mainstream left wing media. Now
you got a domino effect happening. And I said, once
we get to this point, and once you hear the
first Democratic elected official say something similar I said, at
(02:54):
that point, you'll know it's over. At some point, somehow,
some way, Joe Biden is going to be pushed out
and make an announcement that he will not be running
for re election. That is my prediction. Mark Penn managing
a partner with the Staguol Group, private equity firm specializing
in marketing services companies. But he's really well known for
(03:17):
being Bill Clinton and the Clinton's pollsters for years. Sir her,
are you welcome back?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Good? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Why are so many Democrats afraid to talk to me?
You've been on my show a ton? Have I ever
been mean to you?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
No, I'm always happy to talk to you, I.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Know, But but did did anyone ever ask you, like
why do you go on that idiot Hannity's program? Did
anyone ever ask you sometimes sometimes like every time?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And what do you just answering like, well, I get
to talk to a different audience than the people that
think the way I do, right, and you've.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Got one of the biggest audiences.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And TV, thank you, and radio we're on seven hundred
and almost thirty stations now. All right, So You're well
known to be a really really good You really help
Bill Clinton out during his impeachment period. You've been there
for the Clinton family all these years. You've you've always
been a voice of moderation for the Democratic Party. I
(04:13):
would argue that the Democratic Party does not in any
way represent the Bill Clinton that you polled for as president,
but we could deal with that another day. So I
think it started with Maureen Dawd, It continued with Van Jones,
David Axod, James Carville, and now David Ignatius. Do you
(04:35):
agree with me that it looks like dominoes are falling
in a way that it's going to be Democrats that
are going to be pushing Joe Biden out and not
wanting them to run for reelection.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Well, first, I think, as as the litany, you left
out the.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
CNN Paul, the CNN poll. One other thing I left out.
Joe Scarborough said every every single Democrat that he and
Mika Brazinski talked to say by is too old to run.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Now. Look, I wrote many months ago that I thought
neither Trump nor Biden should run. They both decided to run. Uh,
and I don't think either one of them is getting out.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You don't. You don't think Donald Trump will be the
nomine We'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Uh. You know, I thought months ago that when when
Joe Biden got to this month September, he would have
to make a decision based on, you know, the economy improved,
that he built his numbers during the summer and so forth.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
By the way biden Omics. What happened today, Inflation went up,
What happened yesterday, poverty rate increases for the first time
since twenty ten. Not good numbers.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
So I think you're right about the pylons across the board.
I've always been a little puzzled now as to why
the Republicans of Pyligod give her the divers sort. But
I don't see any movement here. No Democrat is coming
forward to challenge. He's consolidated the Democratic vote within the primary.
I have a poll coming on in two days. I'll
(06:09):
be curious to see. And I asked all of these
questions in out what do you think, etc. Whether or
not people have moved after Labor Day, because I think
families get together. But I think you're right. There's a
big tile on it's across the board. But the Democratic Party, however,
is still it's still consolidated around him, and I just
(06:30):
don't see it cracking as I thought it might a
few months ago.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So there's a Wall Street Journal opinion piece out today
by Robert F. Kennedy Junior, and I had him on
TV just So Happens last night, and he talks about
how the Democratic Party is rigging the primaries to help
Joe Biden and New Hampshire and Iowa, you know, pushed aside.
He wants the first contest to be in the state
(06:54):
that saved him the last time, in that being South Carolina,
which I don't think. I agree with Kennedy that they're
making it impossible for him to be a contender. Now,
the question is if they want him off the ticket,
mark my words, If they start sounding like me on
these on the bribery money laundering scandal allegations, you'll know
(07:16):
for a fact that he's out that that's not happening
among Democratic pundits or the Democratic media. Yet.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Well, remember the party is generally controlled by the president
in office. Generally the president office makes the party appointments.
So it's you know, surprised when you have an incumbent
president the party is going to be and I think
that's going to be true in the Democrat and Republican side.
The party is going to be tilted in favor of
(07:45):
the administration and not letting the primary season, you know,
break with the president, because as you know, it's almost
unprecedented for sitting presidents not to get renominated, no matter
what condition they're in.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So let me go to Vietnam this week. And you
know me well enough. I think I've been way ahead
of the curve about what I believe is Joe Biden's
very weak, frail physical state and his cognitive decline. I
believe it has gotten, you know, dramatically worse, culminating in
his own staff having to cut his mic in Vietnam
(08:23):
after And it's a rather long tape, but I really
want you to hear it because it's so bad and
for me, as an American, it's humiliating. I want you
to listen and to comment on it.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, Good evening, Vietnam. My brother loves having there's famous
lions and movies that he always quotes, you know, and
one of them is, there's there's a movie about John
Wayne Isn't in Scout Cout The Indian looks at John
Wayne and points to the Unions, says he's a lion,
dog faced pony soldier. Well, there's a lot of line,
(08:55):
dog faced pony soldiers out there about the rewarming. But
I tell you what, I don't about you. But I'm
going to go to bed. It wasn't confrontational at all.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Becoming very thank for everybody depends account press office.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Thanks everyone, I can thank.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You the political coverage. It looks some of the political
players and some of them. Let me ask rtorical questions.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, Mark Penn, you're not going to like me to
ask this question. No democrat likes this question. Are you
really going to say that he's cognitively strong enough to
be president?
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Well, look, I'm going to say it is a twelve
hour time zone slip. I don't know if he has
taken these one day international time slips.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I've been to Vietnam, I've bent to Singapore. I did
my TV show at nine am. I urge you to
go look at it, and I promise you I brought
the same energy at nine am as I bring locally
at nine pm. Do you think this man is cognitively
strong enough to be president?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Look? I think you're going to see a campaign here
and during a campaign. Look, he's going to have to
get out in campaign.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I like you, Mark, but you're dodging my question. I
love you, but you're really dodging.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
My question because look, it's obviously not you know, a
president's finest hour and a tape like that in a
time zone.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, the last part of that I was not from Vietnam.
The very last part that I played with the music
that wasn't Vietnam. No time laps there.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I hadn't heard the I hadn't heard the last clip.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
But yes, well, let me play it again and then
you tell me. Listen the political coverage.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Looks some of the political players and some of them.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Let me ask quetorical questions. Anyway, We've had many moments
like that, Mark, is he cognitively strong enough to be
our president?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Look, I can just tell you that right now, most
people in the country are questioning that, and he's going
to have to answer that question. You're not alone. We
know what the polls are showing. My poll included shows
that most people think that he may be too old
right now. You saw the CNN poll, and he's going
to have to confront that President Reagan successfully confronted that
(11:47):
when he was questioned, and he is obviously going to
have to confront that in the campaign and answer it
satisfactory to the voters in a way if he's going
to run this campaign, and he's going to have to
do that because the number are pretty clear. But it's
interesting those people who believe that are still voting for him.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
When well, slow down, that's not what the CNM polls
showed sixty seven percent the week before poll. Democrats don't
want him to run.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Well, but he's still getting a forty in that poll.
I believe about a forty six.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Well, they had thirty nine in the other poll. That's
for a sitting president, not a not a high mark,
so you're.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Not seeing it quite cheap over to the vote. No,
that's right. His job rating is thirty nine. A lot
of people are questioning his age. My poll shows that
as well, but they haven't shown him them defect from
voting from him yet because he's still about even with
Donald Trump. My polls actually showed Trump a couple of
points ahead, but they haven't seen them put into action
(12:48):
that finding. So so the public, you know the public
is a smart public. They will resolve these questions. These
are real questions, and I think you're going to see
that resolve itself in the next month or two one
way or the other.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Quick break on the other side, more with Democratic polster
Mark Penn. As we continue the newsmakers, you won't hear
anywhere else. This is the Sean Hannity Show. The opinion
(13:28):
Now with Democratic polster Mark Penn is with us. Why
do you believe Donald Trump leading is having as large
a lead as he does. Why do you think he's
not going to be the candidate?
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I think that his support hovers very close to fifty percent.
I believe this is very interesting. I thought the Wall
Street Journal poll of Republican primary voter showed that it's
primarily a suburban party. I thought it was interesting that
Nicky Haley was beating Trump by six or seven points.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And I think she wasn't beating him directly. They had
hypothetical matchups with every Republican primary candidate.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yes, she was beating Biden by six points, and you
know so, it said to me, there's still a lot
of room here. If the Republican opposition to Trump consolidated
to give Trump a real source rate but.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
If he has fifty percent of the vote, let me
ask you this. You and I, Look, we're not novices
at this. It's not a first rodeo. I've never seen
anything like this. It defies all conventional political gravity. And
that is when a candidate gets arrested, arraigned four separate
(14:42):
times and the poll numbers go up. Do you think
there has been a level of overreach here, which I
believe has been way past that, that there is going
to be who would ever think Donald Trump a sympathetic figure? Right,
that it's going to result in people seeing this for
(15:03):
being purely political, and that there'll be a backlash to it.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Look, a lot of voters do see it as period
of political and I've seen the Department of Justice image,
you know, sink considerably to below fifty percent.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
As low as I saw it below I saw in
the thirties.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Yes, some my pot's below fifty. But look, Donald Trump
has consolidated the very conservative vote. He's got I think
sixty eight percent of the very conservative vote of the
Republican Party. In the past, he actually didn't have the
very conservative vote. And so, yes, is there a base
that he has has it been inflamed is that a majority. No,
(15:43):
I think the big issue is the economy.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Who would be the best Democrat to replace Biden? My
last question.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I think we don't know who the best. I think
there are three or four governors. I think you know
you interviewed Governor Newsom and it made a pretty good performance,
I thought on on your show, right.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I thought it did great, but I knew he would
do well. But I also gave him room to talk
because I promised him.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I would do that you did, and then look, Kamala
Harris would be the vice president. As you see Joe
Biden Walter Mondale, she's.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Just a wordsmith. I mean her words salads are almost
as bad as Biden's win or lose.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Democrats typically to give vice presidents a chance. That's how
Joe Biden is.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
No, you're right, you're historically, you're dead on accurate. We
always appreciate you coming on, Mark Penn. I give credit
to any Democrat that comes on this show because they
take a lot of Adam shipp for coming on this show,
and it's just ridiculous. Anyway, Mark, good to talk to
you man, Thank you, thanks for having me. Eight hundred
and ninety four one show on number. You want to
be a part of the program, all right? Joining us now,
(16:48):
former governor of the Great State of South Carolina and
former UN ambassador now a Republican presidential candidate, Nicky Haley
is back with us. I'm grateful to have you, especially
from your capacity as UN ambassador. I don't know if
I'm the only person upset about this. I think everybody
should be upset about this. But you know, we have
(17:09):
the Biden administration now paying what they're claiming to be
a six billion dollar cash ransom for Americans held hostage
in Iran. To me, that will only encourage further hostage taking. Now,
in June and July, the administration on froze more than
ten billion of Iranian assets held in Iraq, allowing Baghdad
(17:32):
to move their payments there. There's other articles saying that
the total amount of this deal may ultimately add up
to as much as fifty million dollars of fifty billion
dollars regardless. You know, we're looking at a country governor
that can produce ten nuclear bombs in four months, according
to the Washington Free Beacon this week, and now we're
(17:53):
giving them the money to accelerate. Not only being the
number one state sponsor of terror, but accelerate the nuclear program.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It's horrific, Sean. I mean, you look at the fact
that they just put a bounty on every American's head.
So think about you know, my husband's deployed overseas. Every
military man and woman is now in more jeopardy. You've
got all these foreign service officers that we have working
in American embassies on the ground, they are now in
jeopardy because every enemy we have from North Korea, Iran,
(18:25):
China to Russia just saw how much money they can
get for taking American hostages. And I'll be the first one.
I worked with the Namazis, some of the ones that
are coming home, and we want our Americans to come home.
But when you do it this way, you have to
remember you're dealing with a regime that says death to
America every day. And we saw this in the Obama administration.
(18:48):
He gave all this money. You can't change a culture
by throwing money at it. All you're doing is spreading terrorism.
We saw with Obama they basically paid the Huthis to
do more trouble in Yemen, Hesbla and Lebanon.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh, they were fighting a proxy war against the Saudis.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
With that, absolutely, Iraq, Syria, they just went and made
the world less safe. But they went and put a
bounty on every American's head. And it just you can't
buy friends, you can't pay off enemies, and Biden has
not learned that rule at all.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
All right, let me talk a little bit about where
we are in terms of this presidential primary. The reviews
you got on the debate were pretty phenomenal. Probably I
guess the most controversial thing to come out of the
debate was you saying something that I've been saying that
I know makes a lot of people mad. Because I
(19:43):
am in my heart, I am pro life. I believe
in the sanctity of life. I believe life begins a conception.
We have an advertiser on this program, Preborn, and what
they offer free four D ultrasounds to any expecting mom,
and through the science of ultrasound, when they introduce expecting
moms to the miracle that's growing inside them and they
(20:04):
can hear heartbeats and see and count fingers and toes
and see facial features, it changes their hearts. I've always said,
abortion to me is going to end up being a
heart issue. Now that it's back in the States as
a result of the decision, and every state will decide
what their laws will be. You know, you made a
point that I have been making in spite of my
personal beliefs. I don't believe this is where the country is.
(20:26):
I think the country's more in the first trimester, maybe
the Dobs fifteen week area. Certainly not late term abortion,
certainly not abortion up to the moment of birth, and
certainly not Governor Northam's you know, post birth, you know,
infanticide and murder, which was insanity, but you actually said
(20:49):
that Republicans better understand the reality of this because there
is an electorate out there, especially in swing states. I
don't think it would matter in South Carolina, but it
will certainly matter in Pennsylvania. We saw Doug Mostreno get destroyed.
He didn't even make exceptions for rape, incest of the
mother's life. He lost by more to a non incumbent
(21:11):
Democratic gubernatorial candidate than any other candidate since the nineteen
forties and dragged the whole ticket down with them. You know,
Oz was able to get double digit you know, tickets splitting,
and he couldn't make up or compensate the sixteen points
that Mostrano lost by.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, you know, I'll tell you I spoke my truth
at the debate, and that is that I am unapologetically prolite,
not because the Republican Party tells me to be, but
because my husband was adopted and I had trouble having
both of my children. So I am surrounded by blessings.
But you have to tell the American people the truth.
You have to stop demonizing this issue because it's personal
(21:50):
for every woman and every man. And I believe that,
you know, a right happened when we took on elected
justices and they stopped making the decision and we gave
it into the hands of the people. And so we
have seen states become more pro life, and I welcome
that we've seen some states go more towards the abortion site.
I wish that wasn't the case, but the people have decided.
(22:12):
But when we're talking about should there be a federal law,
let's be honest with the American people on what it takes.
It takes a majority of the House, it takes sixty
six zero Senate votes, and it takes the signature of
a president. We haven't had sixty Republican senators. In over
one hundred years, we might have forty five pro life senators.
(22:33):
So no Republican president can ban abortions any more than
a Democrat president can ban any of these state laws.
So what can we agree on. We can all agree
that we don't want late term abortions. We can all
agree that we want adoptions and good quality adoptions. We
can all agree that doctors and nurses who don't believe
(22:54):
in abortions shouldn't have to perform them. We can all
agree that contraception should be accessible, and we should all
agree that no state law can say a woman who
got an abortion should get the death penalty or go
to jail. Let's start there. Let's humanize the situation. I
had a roommate who was raped in college. I wouldn't
wish what she went through wondering if she was pregnant
(23:17):
on anyone. Every person has a story. Let's be respectful
of their story. At the end of the day, what
do all Americans want and what should we want? How
do we save as many babies as possible and support
as many moms as possible? So let's do that by
coming together with plans instead of demonizing each other on it.
(23:37):
I'm not going to be a part of it. I
don't think the Fellows have handled it well, but I
think it's important that we start talking about By the.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Way, I like that line. I don't think the Fellows
have handled its well. That's pretty funny, actually, but I
tend to agree with your sentiment on it. And look,
Republicans have got to look for a Republican to win
the White House. Governor. I'm not telling you any you
don't know. Yeah, it used to be Florida and Ohio.
(24:03):
I'm not really worried about those states anymore. But you
know what we do have to concern ourselves now with Georgia.
I'm very worried about Georgia. You have to fight in
North Carolina, as you know, and you have to fight
for Pennsylvania. That's never an easy win for a Republican.
The same with you know, states like Michigan and Wisconsin,
in Arizona, Nevada. I mean, it is hard. You have
(24:24):
to run the table as the Republican to become president.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I mean, Sean, we were in a room yesterday with
over one hundred, one hundred and twenty five women in Georgia, Republicans, Independents,
and a few Democrats. We want every person in the room,
every single person, because they want to hear the hard trues.
They want to know exactly what's going on. They want transparency,
(24:50):
They want to know that we're going to be honest
with them. You know, let's be honest that we didn't
get into this thirty two trillion dollar hole with just Biden.
Our Republicans did that to us too. Let's be honest.
We have to have transparency in the classroom. We don't
want to turn custody of our kids over to the teachers'
unions and school bureaucrats. Let's make sure that we bring
law and order back to our country and require prosecutors
(25:13):
to prosecute according to the law. Let's acknowledge the lawlessness
on the border and say that it cannot stand and
start securing this border by instead of catching the lease,
going to catch and deport, putting more border patrol on
the ground and letting them do their job. And let's
acknowledge that we've got national security threats all around us
and America can't be so arrogant to think we don't
(25:36):
need friends. We need friends, and we've got to start
pulling alliances so that we.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Can do this.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And that's what we're telling people. And it's resonating all
over the country. And you know, I think the debate
certainly woke things up, but we've seen nothing but momentum
ever since. And I think it's because Americans are tired
of working for government. They want government to be working
for them, and we're determined to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Let me ask you this, because a lot of people say, well,
Donald Trump should debate. If I was running a race
and Donald Trump was in the race, look, the guy
tends to take a lot of the oxygen out of
the room. I don't think you dispute that. I would
almost think it's an opportunity for people to get their
message out a lot more if he doesn't show up
(26:22):
at the debate. But you know that's my feeling, what's yours?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
You know, I go based on what people have said.
I mean, people want to see him on the debate.
You know, debates are great because they show you your options,
They allow you to see how you know, people respond,
what their answers are.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
But I think that you know, people aren't going to
let someone who's absent. They want to see you fight
for them. They want to see what you're going to do.
And I think that he needs to get on that
debate stage. I'll welcome him on it. I think that
it's good for our country for them to see him
as one of those options and see what's going to happen.
And I think you don't want to be you know,
(27:00):
it's so confident that you think just because you're pulling
well now, that you're going to continue polling well by
not showing up. So you know, look, I think he
needs to be on the stage. I would love to
have him on the stage. I don't think he's going
to do the September one, but I hope that you'll
consider doing the October one.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
All Right, Nicki Helly, former South Carolina governor and presidential
candidate for the Republicans and former UN ambassador. We always
love having you, Governor. Great to talk to you again.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Thank you. Go to Nicki Hayley dot com. Let's get
our country back.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Eight hundred and nine foot one, Shawn our number. You
want to be a part of the program. Logan is
in the Free State of Florida. Logan, how are you
tell you. How you doing, sir, I'm good. What's gone?
What's happening?
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Well, I took a little bit of issue with something
you said yesterday about the government shutdown, and it's not
that you were wrong instead of with slightly misleading, And
i'd like to clarify, if you don't mind, go right ahead.
When when there's a furlough, which is what we called it,
I was active duty for seventeen years. When there's a furlough,
your correct is thing was still show up to work.
(27:59):
But they're a lot of benefits that are taken away
from troops, from even federal penitentiary. Worker's friend of mine
got out. He was a Marine Reserve, he worked in
the federal penitentiary. Furlough happened when we were still in
and he lost his truck. So to say that government
still works, our service members still show up to.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
How long was that shutdown to lose your truck? Usually
shutdowns don't last that long. And once you tell any
lending institution that you're on furlough, they every single time
in my career that I can recall that everyone's been
given back pay. So it's not something that's not going
(28:41):
to be resolved. That just a matter of that. They
fear monger it like it's the worst thing in the world,
but it ends up all these people end up getting
free vacations.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Well so, and again when I was active duty, we didn't.
I got advanced my paycheck from my bank, but it
was essentially a interest free payday loan. And that happened
a couple times when I was on active duty. So
while I do agree the elected officials need to be
held to task and they need to do their jobs
that we sent them.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
To go and do.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I don't necessarily know if forcing that function by utilizing.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Sometimes you gotta put pressure, you know, to get to
make real change. And I think that's what I was
trying to infer here. I'm not afraid of it.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
But white pay starts to get looked at, dive paid,
jump pay, EOD pay, all those special incentives and benefits,
they start to get looked at if you start to
have a furlough. So there's you know, make as an
E three making thirty six grand a year. You know
those checks do matter. So thank you for your time.
So I do appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, thank you for your service, Thanks for what you're doing. Okay,
and no problem, sir, all right, eight hundred and nine
four one, Shawn our number if you want to be
a part of the program that's going to wrap things
up at today Hannity Tonight Live Audience Show nine needs
to an on box break News. John Solomon, Congressman Jim
Jordan will weigh in. By the way, when do we
(30:05):
get to hear from the Biden family members like Hunter?
Also Speaker Kevin McCarthy on the impeachment inquiry, how they're
gonna get budget deals done? Ron DeSantis in studio, Tulci
Gabbard in studio, David Wells, former New York Yankee. Yeah,
he's not woke at all. He'll join us as well.
Say a DVR Tonight nine Eastern, see you tonight, back
(30:28):
here tomorrow. Thank you for making the show possible.
Well, we am come in your city, don't pay a
guitars and saying you a conscious will be dire And
if you want a little banging, Uni, I come along.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
That's why today I am directing our House Committee to
open a formal impeachment inquiry to President Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I love voting. I'm not voting to fund the government
because Republicans and Democrats have spent too much.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Like I think holding hostage and impeachment inquiry is wrong.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You may have a game plan, he just hasn't shared
it with me. But I tell you what I don't
know about you. But I'm going to go to bed.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Freedom is back in the style, Welcome to the revolution, coming.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
To your city, don't the way against and saying you
a conscious self.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
The news Sean Hennity show, more him the scenes, information
on freaking news, and.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
More bold inspired solutions for America. Stay right here for
our final news roundup and Information Overload. Hi News round
Up and Information Overload hour. Let me give you our
toll free number. It's eight hundred and nine to four one. Sean.
You want to be a part of the program. We
love to hear from you this hour. So I said
(01:27):
this I think back, we should pull a tape. Linda, right,
what did I say about the Maureen Dowd column being
she excoriated and she never excoriates Democrats excoriated Joe Biden
but not recognizing his four year old, innocent, little granddaughter
in Arkansas. And I said, that's the canarian the call mine.
(01:48):
Then I noticed, all of a sudden, one particular weekend,
maybe three four weeks ago, Politico, the New York Times,
and the Washington Post actually had real stories involving what
we're calling the Joe Biden bribery and money laundering scandal allegations.
And they all moved this story in their own way.
(02:09):
And then we noticed last week, what do we talk about?
More canaries in the coal mine? And that was you know,
in one week you get criticisms from very prominent voices
within Democratic Party ranks, Van Jones and David Axelrod and
James Carville, culminating in today the Washington Post column opinion
(02:30):
column by David Ignatius, probably oh one of the biggest
Biden supporters in all the mainstream left wing media. Now
you got a domino effect happening. And I said, once
we get to this point, and once you hear the
first Democratic elected official say something similar I said, at
(02:54):
that point, you'll know it's over. At some point, somehow,
some way, Joe Biden is going to be pushed out
and make an announcement that he will not be running
for re election. That is my prediction. Mark Penn managing
a partner with the Staguol Group, private equity firm specializing
in marketing services companies. But he's really well known for
(03:17):
being Bill Clinton and the Clinton's pollsters for years. Sir her,
are you welcome back?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Good? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Why are so many Democrats afraid to talk to me?
You've been on my show a ton? Have I ever
been mean to you?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
No, I'm always happy to talk to you, I.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Know, But but did did anyone ever ask you, like
why do you go on that idiot Hannity's program? Did
anyone ever ask you sometimes sometimes like every time?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And what do you just answering like, well, I get
to talk to a different audience than the people that
think the way I do, right, and you've.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Got one of the biggest audiences.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And TV, thank you, and radio we're on seven hundred
and almost thirty stations now. All right, So You're well
known to be a really really good You really help
Bill Clinton out during his impeachment period. You've been there
for the Clinton family all these years. You've you've always
been a voice of moderation for the Democratic Party. I
(04:13):
would argue that the Democratic Party does not in any
way represent the Bill Clinton that you polled for as president,
but we could deal with that another day. So I
think it started with Maureen Dawd, It continued with Van Jones,
David Axod, James Carville, and now David Ignatius. Do you
(04:35):
agree with me that it looks like dominoes are falling
in a way that it's going to be Democrats that
are going to be pushing Joe Biden out and not
wanting them to run for reelection.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Well, first, I think, as as the litany, you left
out the.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
CNN Paul, the CNN poll. One other thing I left out.
Joe Scarborough said every every single Democrat that he and
Mika Brazinski talked to say by is too old to run.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Now. Look, I wrote many months ago that I thought
neither Trump nor Biden should run. They both decided to run. Uh,
and I don't think either one of them is getting out.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You don't. You don't think Donald Trump will be the
nomine We'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Uh. You know, I thought months ago that when when
Joe Biden got to this month September, he would have
to make a decision based on, you know, the economy improved,
that he built his numbers during the summer and so forth.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
By the way biden Omics. What happened today, Inflation went up,
What happened yesterday, poverty rate increases for the first time
since twenty ten. Not good numbers.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
So I think you're right about the pylons across the board.
I've always been a little puzzled now as to why
the Republicans of Pyligod give her the divers sort. But
I don't see any movement here. No Democrat is coming
forward to challenge. He's consolidated the Democratic vote within the primary.
I have a poll coming on in two days. I'll
(06:09):
be curious to see. And I asked all of these
questions in out what do you think, etc. Whether or
not people have moved after Labor Day, because I think
families get together. But I think you're right. There's a
big tile on it's across the board. But the Democratic Party, however,
is still it's still consolidated around him, and I just
(06:30):
don't see it cracking as I thought it might a
few months ago.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So there's a Wall Street Journal opinion piece out today
by Robert F. Kennedy Junior, and I had him on
TV just So Happens last night, and he talks about
how the Democratic Party is rigging the primaries to help
Joe Biden and New Hampshire and Iowa, you know, pushed aside.
He wants the first contest to be in the state
(06:54):
that saved him the last time, in that being South Carolina,
which I don't think. I agree with Kennedy that they're
making it impossible for him to be a contender. Now,
the question is if they want him off the ticket,
mark my words, If they start sounding like me on
these on the bribery money laundering scandal allegations, you'll know
(07:16):
for a fact that he's out that that's not happening
among Democratic pundits or the Democratic media. Yet.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Well, remember the party is generally controlled by the president
in office. Generally the president office makes the party appointments.
So it's you know, surprised when you have an incumbent
president the party is going to be and I think
that's going to be true in the Democrat and Republican side.
The party is going to be tilted in favor of
(07:45):
the administration and not letting the primary season, you know,
break with the president, because as you know, it's almost
unprecedented for sitting presidents not to get renominated, no matter
what condition they're in.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So let me go to Vietnam this week. And you
know me well enough. I think I've been way ahead
of the curve about what I believe is Joe Biden's
very weak, frail physical state and his cognitive decline. I
believe it has gotten, you know, dramatically worse, culminating in
his own staff having to cut his mic in Vietnam
(08:23):
after And it's a rather long tape, but I really
want you to hear it because it's so bad and
for me, as an American, it's humiliating. I want you
to listen and to comment on it.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, Good evening, Vietnam. My brother loves having there's famous
lions and movies that he always quotes, you know, and
one of them is, there's there's a movie about John
Wayne Isn't in Scout Cout The Indian looks at John
Wayne and points to the Unions, says he's a lion,
dog faced pony soldier. Well, there's a lot of line,
(08:55):
dog faced pony soldiers out there about the rewarming. But
I tell you what, I don't about you. But I'm
going to go to bed. It wasn't confrontational at all.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Becoming very thank for everybody depends account press office.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Thanks everyone, I can thank.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You the political coverage. It looks some of the political
players and some of them. Let me ask rtorical questions.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, Mark Penn, you're not going to like me to
ask this question. No democrat likes this question. Are you
really going to say that he's cognitively strong enough to
be president?
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Well, look, I'm going to say it is a twelve
hour time zone slip. I don't know if he has
taken these one day international time slips.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I've been to Vietnam, I've bent to Singapore. I did
my TV show at nine am. I urge you to
go look at it, and I promise you I brought
the same energy at nine am as I bring locally
at nine pm. Do you think this man is cognitively
strong enough to be president?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Look? I think you're going to see a campaign here
and during a campaign. Look, he's going to have to
get out in campaign.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I like you, Mark, but you're dodging my question. I
love you, but you're really dodging.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
My question because look, it's obviously not you know, a
president's finest hour and a tape like that in a
time zone.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, the last part of that I was not from Vietnam.
The very last part that I played with the music
that wasn't Vietnam. No time laps there.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I hadn't heard the I hadn't heard the last clip.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
But yes, well, let me play it again and then
you tell me. Listen the political coverage.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Looks some of the political players and some of them.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Let me ask quetorical questions. Anyway, We've had many moments
like that, Mark, is he cognitively strong enough to be
our president?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Look, I can just tell you that right now, most
people in the country are questioning that, and he's going
to have to answer that question. You're not alone. We
know what the polls are showing. My poll included shows
that most people think that he may be too old
right now. You saw the CNN poll, and he's going
to have to confront that President Reagan successfully confronted that
(11:47):
when he was questioned, and he is obviously going to
have to confront that in the campaign and answer it
satisfactory to the voters in a way if he's going
to run this campaign, and he's going to have to
do that because the number are pretty clear. But it's
interesting those people who believe that are still voting for him.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
When well, slow down, that's not what the CNM polls
showed sixty seven percent the week before poll. Democrats don't
want him to run.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Well, but he's still getting a forty in that poll.
I believe about a forty six.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Well, they had thirty nine in the other poll. That's
for a sitting president, not a not a high mark,
so you're.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Not seeing it quite cheap over to the vote. No,
that's right. His job rating is thirty nine. A lot
of people are questioning his age. My poll shows that
as well, but they haven't shown him them defect from
voting from him yet because he's still about even with
Donald Trump. My polls actually showed Trump a couple of
points ahead, but they haven't seen them put into action
(12:48):
that finding. So so the public, you know the public
is a smart public. They will resolve these questions. These
are real questions, and I think you're going to see
that resolve itself in the next month or two one
way or the other.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Quick break on the other side, more with Democratic polster
Mark Penn. As we continue the newsmakers, you won't hear
anywhere else. This is the Sean Hannity Show. The opinion
(13:28):
Now with Democratic polster Mark Penn is with us. Why
do you believe Donald Trump leading is having as large
a lead as he does. Why do you think he's
not going to be the candidate?
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I think that his support hovers very close to fifty percent.
I believe this is very interesting. I thought the Wall
Street Journal poll of Republican primary voter showed that it's
primarily a suburban party. I thought it was interesting that
Nicky Haley was beating Trump by six or seven points.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And I think she wasn't beating him directly. They had
hypothetical matchups with every Republican primary candidate.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yes, she was beating Biden by six points, and you
know so, it said to me, there's still a lot
of room here. If the Republican opposition to Trump consolidated
to give Trump a real source rate but.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
If he has fifty percent of the vote, let me
ask you this. You and I, Look, we're not novices
at this. It's not a first rodeo. I've never seen
anything like this. It defies all conventional political gravity. And
that is when a candidate gets arrested, arraigned four separate
(14:42):
times and the poll numbers go up. Do you think
there has been a level of overreach here, which I
believe has been way past that, that there is going
to be who would ever think Donald Trump a sympathetic figure? Right,
that it's going to result in people seeing this for
(15:03):
being purely political, and that there'll be a backlash to it.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Look, a lot of voters do see it as period
of political and I've seen the Department of Justice image,
you know, sink considerably to below fifty percent.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
As low as I saw it below I saw in
the thirties.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Yes, some my pot's below fifty. But look, Donald Trump
has consolidated the very conservative vote. He's got I think
sixty eight percent of the very conservative vote of the
Republican Party. In the past, he actually didn't have the
very conservative vote. And so, yes, is there a base
that he has has it been inflamed is that a majority. No,
(15:43):
I think the big issue is the economy.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Who would be the best Democrat to replace Biden? My
last question.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I think we don't know who the best. I think
there are three or four governors. I think you know
you interviewed Governor Newsom and it made a pretty good performance,
I thought on on your show, right.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I thought it did great, but I knew he would
do well. But I also gave him room to talk
because I promised him.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I would do that you did, and then look, Kamala
Harris would be the vice president. As you see Joe
Biden Walter Mondale, she's.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Just a wordsmith. I mean her words salads are almost
as bad as Biden's win or lose.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Democrats typically to give vice presidents a chance. That's how
Joe Biden is.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
No, you're right, you're historically, you're dead on accurate. We
always appreciate you coming on, Mark Penn. I give credit
to any Democrat that comes on this show because they
take a lot of Adam shipp for coming on this show,
and it's just ridiculous. Anyway, Mark, good to talk to
you man, Thank you, thanks for having me. Eight hundred
and ninety four one show on number. You want to
be a part of the program, all right? Joining us now,
(16:48):
former governor of the Great State of South Carolina and
former UN ambassador now a Republican presidential candidate, Nicky Haley
is back with us. I'm grateful to have you, especially
from your capacity as UN ambassador. I don't know if
I'm the only person upset about this. I think everybody
should be upset about this. But you know, we have
(17:09):
the Biden administration now paying what they're claiming to be
a six billion dollar cash ransom for Americans held hostage
in Iran. To me, that will only encourage further hostage taking. Now,
in June and July, the administration on froze more than
ten billion of Iranian assets held in Iraq, allowing Baghdad
(17:32):
to move their payments there. There's other articles saying that
the total amount of this deal may ultimately add up
to as much as fifty million dollars of fifty billion
dollars regardless. You know, we're looking at a country governor
that can produce ten nuclear bombs in four months, according
to the Washington Free Beacon this week, and now we're
(17:53):
giving them the money to accelerate. Not only being the
number one state sponsor of terror, but accelerate the nuclear program.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It's horrific, Sean. I mean, you look at the fact
that they just put a bounty on every American's head.
So think about you know, my husband's deployed overseas. Every
military man and woman is now in more jeopardy. You've
got all these foreign service officers that we have working
in American embassies on the ground, they are now in
jeopardy because every enemy we have from North Korea, Iran,
(18:25):
China to Russia just saw how much money they can
get for taking American hostages. And I'll be the first one.
I worked with the Namazis, some of the ones that
are coming home, and we want our Americans to come home.
But when you do it this way, you have to
remember you're dealing with a regime that says death to
America every day. And we saw this in the Obama administration.
(18:48):
He gave all this money. You can't change a culture
by throwing money at it. All you're doing is spreading terrorism.
We saw with Obama they basically paid the Huthis to
do more trouble in Yemen, Hesbla and Lebanon.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh, they were fighting a proxy war against the Saudis.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
With that, absolutely, Iraq, Syria, they just went and made
the world less safe. But they went and put a
bounty on every American's head. And it just you can't
buy friends, you can't pay off enemies, and Biden has
not learned that rule at all.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
All right, let me talk a little bit about where
we are in terms of this presidential primary. The reviews
you got on the debate were pretty phenomenal. Probably I
guess the most controversial thing to come out of the
debate was you saying something that I've been saying that
I know makes a lot of people mad. Because I
(19:43):
am in my heart, I am pro life. I believe
in the sanctity of life. I believe life begins a conception.
We have an advertiser on this program, Preborn, and what
they offer free four D ultrasounds to any expecting mom,
and through the science of ultrasound, when they introduce expecting
moms to the miracle that's growing inside them and they
(20:04):
can hear heartbeats and see and count fingers and toes
and see facial features, it changes their hearts. I've always said,
abortion to me is going to end up being a
heart issue. Now that it's back in the States as
a result of the decision, and every state will decide
what their laws will be. You know, you made a
point that I have been making in spite of my
personal beliefs. I don't believe this is where the country is.
(20:26):
I think the country's more in the first trimester, maybe
the Dobs fifteen week area. Certainly not late term abortion,
certainly not abortion up to the moment of birth, and
certainly not Governor Northam's you know, post birth, you know,
infanticide and murder, which was insanity, but you actually said
(20:49):
that Republicans better understand the reality of this because there
is an electorate out there, especially in swing states. I
don't think it would matter in South Carolina, but it
will certainly matter in Pennsylvania. We saw Doug Mostreno get destroyed.
He didn't even make exceptions for rape, incest of the
mother's life. He lost by more to a non incumbent
(21:11):
Democratic gubernatorial candidate than any other candidate since the nineteen
forties and dragged the whole ticket down with them. You know,
Oz was able to get double digit you know, tickets splitting,
and he couldn't make up or compensate the sixteen points
that Mostrano lost by.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, you know, I'll tell you I spoke my truth
at the debate, and that is that I am unapologetically prolite,
not because the Republican Party tells me to be, but
because my husband was adopted and I had trouble having
both of my children. So I am surrounded by blessings.
But you have to tell the American people the truth.
You have to stop demonizing this issue because it's personal
(21:50):
for every woman and every man. And I believe that,
you know, a right happened when we took on elected
justices and they stopped making the decision and we gave
it into the hands of the people. And so we
have seen states become more pro life, and I welcome
that we've seen some states go more towards the abortion site.
I wish that wasn't the case, but the people have decided.
(22:12):
But when we're talking about should there be a federal law,
let's be honest with the American people on what it takes.
It takes a majority of the House, it takes sixty
six zero Senate votes, and it takes the signature of
a president. We haven't had sixty Republican senators. In over
one hundred years, we might have forty five pro life senators.
(22:33):
So no Republican president can ban abortions any more than
a Democrat president can ban any of these state laws.
So what can we agree on. We can all agree
that we don't want late term abortions. We can all
agree that we want adoptions and good quality adoptions. We
can all agree that doctors and nurses who don't believe
(22:54):
in abortions shouldn't have to perform them. We can all
agree that contraception should be accessible, and we should all
agree that no state law can say a woman who
got an abortion should get the death penalty or go
to jail. Let's start there. Let's humanize the situation. I
had a roommate who was raped in college. I wouldn't
wish what she went through wondering if she was pregnant
(23:17):
on anyone. Every person has a story. Let's be respectful
of their story. At the end of the day, what
do all Americans want and what should we want? How
do we save as many babies as possible and support
as many moms as possible? So let's do that by
coming together with plans instead of demonizing each other on it.
(23:37):
I'm not going to be a part of it. I
don't think the Fellows have handled it well, but I
think it's important that we start talking about By the.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Way, I like that line. I don't think the Fellows
have handled its well. That's pretty funny, actually, but I
tend to agree with your sentiment on it. And look,
Republicans have got to look for a Republican to win
the White House. Governor. I'm not telling you any you
don't know. Yeah, it used to be Florida and Ohio.
(24:03):
I'm not really worried about those states anymore. But you
know what we do have to concern ourselves now with Georgia.
I'm very worried about Georgia. You have to fight in
North Carolina, as you know, and you have to fight
for Pennsylvania. That's never an easy win for a Republican.
The same with you know, states like Michigan and Wisconsin,
in Arizona, Nevada. I mean, it is hard. You have
(24:24):
to run the table as the Republican to become president.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I mean, Sean, we were in a room yesterday with
over one hundred, one hundred and twenty five women in Georgia, Republicans, Independents,
and a few Democrats. We want every person in the room,
every single person, because they want to hear the hard trues.
They want to know exactly what's going on. They want transparency,
(24:50):
They want to know that we're going to be honest
with them. You know, let's be honest that we didn't
get into this thirty two trillion dollar hole with just Biden.
Our Republicans did that to us too. Let's be honest.
We have to have transparency in the classroom. We don't
want to turn custody of our kids over to the teachers'
unions and school bureaucrats. Let's make sure that we bring
law and order back to our country and require prosecutors
(25:13):
to prosecute according to the law. Let's acknowledge the lawlessness
on the border and say that it cannot stand and
start securing this border by instead of catching the lease,
going to catch and deport, putting more border patrol on
the ground and letting them do their job. And let's
acknowledge that we've got national security threats all around us
and America can't be so arrogant to think we don't
(25:36):
need friends. We need friends, and we've got to start
pulling alliances so that we.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Can do this.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And that's what we're telling people. And it's resonating all
over the country. And you know, I think the debate
certainly woke things up, but we've seen nothing but momentum
ever since. And I think it's because Americans are tired
of working for government. They want government to be working
for them, and we're determined to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Let me ask you this, because a lot of people say, well,
Donald Trump should debate. If I was running a race
and Donald Trump was in the race, look, the guy
tends to take a lot of the oxygen out of
the room. I don't think you dispute that. I would
almost think it's an opportunity for people to get their
message out a lot more if he doesn't show up
(26:22):
at the debate. But you know that's my feeling, what's yours?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
You know, I go based on what people have said.
I mean, people want to see him on the debate.
You know, debates are great because they show you your options,
They allow you to see how you know, people respond,
what their answers are.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
But I think that you know, people aren't going to
let someone who's absent. They want to see you fight
for them. They want to see what you're going to do.
And I think that he needs to get on that
debate stage. I'll welcome him on it. I think that
it's good for our country for them to see him
as one of those options and see what's going to happen.
And I think you don't want to be you know,
(27:00):
it's so confident that you think just because you're pulling
well now, that you're going to continue polling well by
not showing up. So you know, look, I think he
needs to be on the stage. I would love to
have him on the stage. I don't think he's going
to do the September one, but I hope that you'll
consider doing the October one.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
All Right, Nicki Helly, former South Carolina governor and presidential
candidate for the Republicans and former UN ambassador. We always
love having you, Governor. Great to talk to you again.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Thank you. Go to Nicki Hayley dot com. Let's get
our country back.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Eight hundred and nine foot one, Shawn our number. You
want to be a part of the program. Logan is
in the Free State of Florida. Logan, how are you
tell you. How you doing, sir, I'm good. What's gone?
What's happening?
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Well, I took a little bit of issue with something
you said yesterday about the government shutdown, and it's not
that you were wrong instead of with slightly misleading, And
i'd like to clarify, if you don't mind, go right ahead.
When when there's a furlough, which is what we called it,
I was active duty for seventeen years. When there's a furlough,
your correct is thing was still show up to work.
(27:59):
But they're a lot of benefits that are taken away
from troops, from even federal penitentiary. Worker's friend of mine
got out. He was a Marine Reserve, he worked in
the federal penitentiary. Furlough happened when we were still in
and he lost his truck. So to say that government
still works, our service members still show up to.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
How long was that shutdown to lose your truck? Usually
shutdowns don't last that long. And once you tell any
lending institution that you're on furlough, they every single time
in my career that I can recall that everyone's been
given back pay. So it's not something that's not going
(28:41):
to be resolved. That just a matter of that. They
fear monger it like it's the worst thing in the world,
but it ends up all these people end up getting
free vacations.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Well so, and again when I was active duty, we didn't.
I got advanced my paycheck from my bank, but it
was essentially a interest free payday loan. And that happened
a couple times when I was on active duty. So
while I do agree the elected officials need to be
held to task and they need to do their jobs
that we sent them.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
To go and do.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I don't necessarily know if forcing that function by utilizing.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Sometimes you gotta put pressure, you know, to get to
make real change. And I think that's what I was
trying to infer here. I'm not afraid of it.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
But white pay starts to get looked at, dive paid,
jump pay, EOD pay, all those special incentives and benefits,
they start to get looked at if you start to
have a furlough. So there's you know, make as an
E three making thirty six grand a year. You know
those checks do matter. So thank you for your time.
So I do appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, thank you for your service, Thanks for what you're doing. Okay,
and no problem, sir, all right, eight hundred and nine
four one, Shawn our number if you want to be
a part of the program that's going to wrap things
up at today Hannity Tonight Live Audience Show nine needs
to an on box break News. John Solomon, Congressman Jim
Jordan will weigh in. By the way, when do we
(30:05):
get to hear from the Biden family members like Hunter?
Also Speaker Kevin McCarthy on the impeachment inquiry, how they're
gonna get budget deals done? Ron DeSantis in studio, Tulci
Gabbard in studio, David Wells, former New York Yankee. Yeah,
he's not woke at all. He'll join us as well.
Say a DVR Tonight nine Eastern, see you tonight, back
(30:28):
here tomorrow. Thank you for making the show possible.
The Sean Hannity Show News
Host
Sean Hannity
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Therapy Gecko
An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.